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Nobody should be this rich.
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nobody should be this desperate for bait
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>>946427073
It's 800 billion now.
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Oh no, someone is successful.
It's net worth, get over it. He's not able to sell all his stocks to get that rich.
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>>946427073
We should give him all our tax dollars. That's right. He should pay negative taxes. The filthy poors should be sacrificed for his wealth.
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>provide small value to many

prosper accordingly

>provide large value to a few

prosper accordingly

>provide incalculable value in a dozen fields, to basically the entire planet

prosper accordingly

I know, it's so hard.
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>>946427458
>I know, it's so hard.

...when capitalism refuses to reward laziness.
Capitalism bad.
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>>946427073
Cuck
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>>946427073
>Nobody should be this rich.
Why not?
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>>946429318
It's immoral
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maybe we should try to understand a person in depth who has somehow amassed such a significant portion of the world's wealth instead of immediately dismissing his wealth as unreasonable
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>>946429418
Musk is a retard and most of his money comes from government contracts aka tax payer money.
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>>946429418
>>946427073
Short and long answer: South Africa Emerald mine inheritance. Too bad op is a cuck who lost the birth lottery
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>>946427199
He's not gonna let u suck him off bro
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execute him and spread his wealth
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>>946429652
It would just go to the bank or the government
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>>946429375
>It's immoral
just because he has a stash doesn't mean he owes you, commie bastard
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>>946429893
You don't need to be a communist to question why some people have barely enough to survive while this nigga uses his cash to burn through shit that you don't care about like AI, FSD and robotics.
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>>946429990
>question why some people have barely enough to survive
how is it elon's fault?
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>>946430126
>how is it elon's fault?

I wouldn't say it's his fault, more like a tendency of capitalism to concentrate all the wealth on the hands of the few.

But who cares... Shit won't make any sense some years from now
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>>946430248
>tendency of capitalism
so you're just a commie whining about how capitalism works.
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>>946430528
I'm not a communist
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>>946430528
Capitalism working in practice right now is when the government taxes you to give more money to pissreal. Are you a good or bad goycattle?
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>>946430547
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>>946430572
But you pay taxes and should be concerned. Is you paying taxes as a percent of your income and him not socialism?
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>>946430588
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>>946427073
logfat thread
you suck Musk's cock
It enrages you when liberals like me say this
liberals like me enrages you
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>>946430653
ywnbaw
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>>946427073
everyone should be that rich
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>>946430528
A system where 4% of the population owns almost everything where the remainder of the population owns nothing and keeps slaving away to make it all happen is one built upon discrimination. Money creates more problems than it holds the appearance of solving, it's practically the birth of crime. I'm not convinced capitalism truly works when it creates endless addiction and a lot of altered thinking.
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>>946430717
>capitalism
are you suggesting communism or socialism is any better?
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>>946427073
he is a gopher for the elite and their technocracy agenda
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>>946430782
The fact that your side has used coercion in military force to stop it so many times proves that it is

You don't want public ownership or collectivism because that means Black people might own something
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>>946430918
>coercion in military
where is that happening now?
>You don't want public ownership or collectivism because that means Black people might own something
Black people do own things as it is now. Are you sure you aren't the one having an issue with it?
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>>946431272
South America. Trump just fucking invaded Venezuela with no legal justification whatsoever
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>>946431272
I don't have an issue with it. You do. You have an issue with any minority being escalated, don't be a fucking pussy about this
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>>946430618
Why does the left feel so entitled to other people's money?
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>>946431356
And bombed Iran only for Israel with no approval from Congress
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>>946431356
>Venezuela
You mean the tyrant that took over illegally in the first place and was trafficking drugs because the economy went to shit? You think that's capitalism's fault?
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>>946431392
>I don't have an issue with it. You do.
>no u
If you have nothing to say, then just stfu
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>>946430918
>The fact that your side has used coercion in military force to stop it so many times proves that it is
What the fuck is this logic?

>the fact that law enforcement uses force to stop crimes proves that letting the crimes happen is better
>the fact that a country uses military force to stop an invader proves that being invaded is better
>the fact that someone used force to stop charlie kirk proves that what he was promoting was better
That's how stupid you sound.
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>>946431432
Don't give a shit. Your side has a history of wanting to stop things like public ownership and collectivism
Stop being a fucking pussy trying to deny it
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>>946431499
You do. That's why you don't want collectivism. Because minorities would have more power
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>>946431530
It's happened throughout history you stupid gaslighting fuck
The CIA stop democratically elected government in central America because they were too "socialist" for somebody
Holy fucking shit you must think this fucking thread is full of teenagers
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>>946431610
You're just projecting your own racism and can't come up with an actual argument. Blacks already own things.
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>>946431530
There's literally nothing logical about your reply Trump shit shut the fuck up
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>>946431671
I don't have any racism. I want blacks to be equals you don't
Socialism would work to put everyone on equal footing
That's a big no-no for your side
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>>946428305
And a commie.
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>>946431697
>you don't
you're just pulling this out of your ass based on nothing. Not surprising, coming from a commie.
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>>946431419
Does the left really? The average retirement benefit in 2026 will be $2,071. The people receiving that only made $2k a month when they were contributing. The money wasnt invested, many voted for Reagan and the Bushes. They voted for debt. Now they take more than they even made knowing its completely from my oaycheck yet vote for Republicans way more than Democrrats who would simply ask for a tax system that was in place when America was "great."
Why are you a cuck?
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>>946427073
light him on and abd do something actually useful with that money
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>>946432494
Wut
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>>946432571
>typoed to hell

i apologize, here you go:

light him on fire and and do something actually useful with that money
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>>946432779
>let me spend it for him
why are commies like this
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>>946432858
Commie Derangement Syndrome
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>>946427073
you retards literally voted a billionaire to be president, then he filled his office with more billionaires (musk, lutnick, kushner)
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>>946432779
As a centrist I want him around. I would be ok with penalties for his election corruption and DOGE stealing citizens data with no upside. Overall just let the man be rich but tax him over a billion so he can have fun but not destroy democracy.
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i think lots of that is human capitol, being an employer of rocket scientists puts a large amount in the asset column.
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>>946430248
two more weeks until capitalism falls, comrade!
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>>946427073
Most all that is not cash sitting in a bank it is mostly assets like Tesla, the Boring company, spaceX, Twitter
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>>946430717
>capitalism is the birth of crime
So when Grug stole a piece of meat from Kronk, that was capitalism's fault?
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>>946431874
>muh taxes
dumbass if you got to keep another 200 a week you still wouldn't be shit
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>the Boring company
that effing worm out-pacing gary?
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>>946427199
He is not successful.
He is powerful. He could destroy your life at any time on a whim. He can topple nations.

Nobody should be that powerful. Is antithetical to democracy.
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>>946427073
you'd need to sell him for that first
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>>946429990
envy is a cardinal sin anon
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>>946434797
bullshit.
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>>946427073
I should be this rich.
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>>946434274
He's not George Soros, Musk is wealthy but not powerful like others. His department of efficiency basically did nothing. The richest man in the world appointed and empowered by the President and still he can't make any difference to the existing structure. Shows you he really isn't what you think he is.


We also don't live in a Democracy lol (not that it would be good if we did), we live in an oligarchy with a democratic front. All the Western democracies are essentially oligarchies. Same few wealthy, same entrenched parties. Mass democracy is a a lie that makes the voting block of every retard an unwieldy mess so it is almost impossible to make a radical change to anything. A small educated and engaged electorate is what the powerful wealthy fear, which is why we have mass democracy, throw all the retards in that can be manipulated with slop.
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>>946434155
It was fine until the Jews got involved. He sowed disunity among Kronk and Grug, made them war for profit. He made them forget the honour of exchange between men, made all their transactions of capital so he could exploit them. RISE UP KRONK AND GRUG, LIBERATE YOURSELF FROM THE JEWS. THE CAPITALISTS SHALL NO MORE OPPRESS YOU. GLORY TO THE BLOOD AND THE SOIL WHICH THEY CAN NEVER KNOW OR LOVE. THEY KNOW ONLY HATE, SO WE SHALL KRUNK THEM.
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>>946434155
It's doubtful either of those two knuckleheads exist. Please offer proof.
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>>946434956
What mystical power does Soros possess?
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>>946427073
I should be. I'd buy this place, hire actual mods, and pay them per ban.
Shit would literally be so cash
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>>946434956
Add to that Rothschilds, Gates, Ellison, Fink, Thiel, Kochs, Page
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>>946431652
I didn't say it didn't happen, I didn't even say if I agreed with your stance on socialism or not. I'm saying that force being used "proves" abso-fucking-lutely nothing about whether it's better or not, it was a retarded statement.
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>>946434956
>His department of efficiency basically did nothing
I said powerful, not competent.

>>946434956
>We also don't live in a Democracy
I now want to have a deeper debate with you about the meaningnof a true democracy, because I think we agree on many points.

A true democracy is one where people get to make decisions through votes. A neccessity for this is that the voter knows what they are voting for. The idiot voter that just uncritically casts their ballot is thus obviously not really partaking in democracy imho.

But what about the deceived voter? And what about those that deceive voters?

In my country it is illegal to work against democracy. But I feel that this should mean that those who lie about pertinent things in elections - through false statements or omissions - should be punished severely.
Also, there ahould be some basic knowledge quiz before every election. Just something super simple like "which part of government is this vote in regards to" or "whonis the current prime minister."
And if you fail youbget a fifth of a vote, or none at all.

I dont get why all votes have to be of equal value. They obviously are not.
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>>946435245
Massive sway over the stock market because he is not only a large owner and trader himself, but others follow his moves. So he can just crash economies or topple governments by fucking with things. Or just threatening to.
>>946435441
>I said powerful, not competent.
Wouldn't have mattered if he was the most competent. The system and institutions are entrenched. Even a President and the richest man can't change it. It resists.

If a true democracy must be an informed one, it cannot be universal, and it almost is oxymoronic, self-contradictory. The average person, thus the average voter, is a moron steered by passions, which are steered by others. Democracy is mob-rule and is not aspirational. The Greeks knew this and disparaged the system. What we did with their ideas they would baulk at.

>But I feel that this should mean that those who lie about pertinent things in elections - through false statements or omissions - should be punished severely.
There is no interest for a state to implement this. It would hurt them, therefore they will resist it. They will judge in their favour and pretend it is objective.

Democracy relies too much on the false "marketplace of ideas" and the assumed dominant rationality of the individual. People aren't like that. They are stupid, and base, and manipulatable. They can't judge a good idea from a bad, tell when they are being deceived, get exploited all the time. "Fell for it again" award.

If you desire a system of voting, and the people are compatible with it: only racially native (or whatever the core group is) men of 21 and over may vote. As the Athenians had it: no women, no slaves, no foreigners. None of these may vote, none shall be allowed to hold office. Also means you can't try to import a voting block. They racially are barred from voting. No undermining your own people through immigrant blocks.
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>>946427073
Gives hope to other autistic retards they too can be rich one day.
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>>946435901
>Massive sway over the stock market because he is not only a large owner and trader himself, but others follow his moves. So he can just crash economies or topple governments by fucking with things. Or just threatening to.
Proof of this?
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>>946436024
>proof
You're fat shut up
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>>946435901
Just admit you don't want democracy because Black people would be able to tell you what to do. You're such a fucking retard pretending to be an intellectual Jesus Christ no wonder antifa exists
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>>946427073
The dude launches more rockets than any nation in the world.
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>>946436580
>13%
They have little political power. Democracy would limit that further. Which is why we have a representative Republic.
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>>946436644
Democracy means every voice gets heard. You don't want that
you don't want Black people influencing society
you want a white Christian theocracy stop talking shit goddamnit
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>>946436627
>*the dude launders more money
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>>946436024
This is rather well known anon. He is one of the most respected and followed macro level traders of the modern era. He shorted the pound and got a billion in 1992. When you are big enough and enough follow you, you can drag the system around with you.
>>946436580
Anon, democracy is a poor system even without blacks. Antifa exists because they are funded as a part of a counter-gang network to dissipate rage against the capitalist system, ironically. Can't overthrow the transnational corporations if you are too busy attacking ICE and fighting with other government funded right wing groups. Funding extremist gangs to tear chunks out of each other in retard wars is a very effective strategy.

OH NO, THEY ARE TRYING TO DEPORT PEOPLE? THAT WILL DRIVE UP THE WAGES OF THE AMERICAN WORKER AND GIVE THEM NEGOTIATING POWER. DON'T WORRY CAPITALISTS, I WILL FIGHT THE POLICE TO KEEP ALL YOUR BROWN SWEATSHOP WORKERS, YOU CAN COUNT ON ME. RACIAL SOLIDARITY NETWORKS OF WHITE PEOPLE? THEY COULD USE THEM TO ORGANISE AGAINST THE RICH. DON'T WORRY RICH, THE IRISH POLICE AND FIRE UNION WILL BE NO MORE, THEY ARE RACIST AND ORGANISE THE WORKERS.

Bunch of capital-serving clowns. Sure we helped oppress the workers and kept the rich in charge, but we now have more niggers and gay butt sex. Marx would be proud.
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>>946436691
No it doesn't. It means the majority rules. Maybe look up "the tyranny of the majority" some time.
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>>946436712
Democracy works just fine. Your side keeps trying to stop it because you don't want certain people participating in society. Jesus Christ why can't you fucking be honest even with yourself in an anonymous forum?
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>>946436706
In what way is it laundering money?
Are you literally retarded?
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>>946436760
you want to tyranny of the minority

shut up Jesus fucking Christ shut up you're in no position to lecture anybody about this
we know what you are
what you do
and what you fucking want
And you can go get fucked
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>>946436769
>Doesn't no what democracy is
>So retarded he huffs propaganda for breakfast.
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>>946436712
>This is rather well known anon
That is not proof of any kind.
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The Rothschilds collectively own tens of trillions of dollars of assets. Each of them is richer than Elon. They own pretty much all the big banks in the world. There are people even richer than them. Why don't you hear about them? Because they're smart, they don't want targets on their backs. They let Elon do his little pirrouettes in front of the media and flaunt his paper wealth while they own both sides of most democratic political systems and dictate policy.
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>>946436789
You are seriously the dumbest motherfucker here. You spend all goddamned day spouting the stupidest shit on 4chan. You're uneducated and dumb as fuck. You don't even know what half the words you use even mean.
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>>946436790
Jesus fucking Christ shut the fuck up boomer
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>>946436769
>Your side keeps trying to stop it because you don't want certain people participating in society
Well...yeah. Obviously. Why the fuck would I want niggers having say in society? They should be sent back to Africa. Not the only reason but yeah that is one of them. Niggers are far too stupid to oppose capital properly either. They are great if you love slavery though, stupid workforce or stupid consumers. Easy tools. I don't want either of those. So they can go back.

ahahahhhahahah
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>>946436842
>Gets btfo
>Hurrrr! BoOmBer!
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>>946436865
>Samefagging because no one took the bait
You are consistent.
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>>946436831
You got fucking called out trying to push your stupid fucking half-baked pseudo intellectual fucking bullshit Trumper shut up
You can't even fucking admit that you're a racist who wants a white Christian theocracy even though you literally admitted you don't want blacks or women voting holy fucking shit you're a pussy
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>>946436865
Finally some honesty. No fucking bullshit about how democracy doesn't work or socialism doesn't work or any of that fucking shit you don't want Black people participating in society
Finally some fucking honesty
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>>946435901
>only racially native (or whatever the core group is) men of 21 and over may vote.
Like that is some measure of rationality. Most the truly emotionally unstable people I know are men of my nations ethnical majority.
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>>946436880
You want select group of white men running society.

you didn't blow shit out except out your fucking fat ass
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>>946436892
Probably your fucking post bitch shut up
There's no fucking way you want democracy either if you're a different poster
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>>946436896
What the fuck are you babbling about now? You didn't call shit out. You just said your same old retarded shit that you spout day in and day out, most of which you're too dumb to even understand the implications of.
I can't even call you a bot, because bots have more flexibility than you.
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>>946436937
No I don't, you retarded fuck. Could you seriously be any dumber?
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>>946436961
You don't even fucking know me shut up you're upset because you got caught being a pseudo intellectual right wing fucking frankly piece of fucking garbage. This isn't your fucking hug box
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>>946436915
I'm arguing from a National Socialist perspective anon. They ate your lunch last time and they will do again. The White Worker is inherently conservative, which is why you want to break them up with foreign labour. You are a sad tool of capitalists and betray your own people. The lower class desires economic left and social right. The National Socialist or Fascist position gives this. Which is why you are so afraid of them. They will blow up your plantation.
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>>946436977
>More retarded babbling
You're a retarded fuck that spends half his life posting on 4chan, and pretty much all of it is dumb as fuck.
You want to disenfranchise half the country because they don't vote for you party, and that's what you call democracy.
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>>946436975
If You didn't make the post about how blacks and women shouldn't vote then shut the fuck up in fact you should find that post and tell that poster to fuck off
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>>946436995
Thank you once again for proving why antifa needs to exist.
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Luigi 2028!
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>>946436995
>I'm arguing from a National Socialist perspective anon.
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>>946437018
That's a good point. If you're gonna just keep voting for fuckheads like Trump maybe you should be disallowed to vote
Pull your fucking head out of your ass
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>>946437022
It's a free country. I don't have to obey your bullshit orders. You have no power and never will.
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>>946437031
It is good that it does. Without Antifa, Hitler would likely have never taken power. Nothing gets the Middle Classes voting Fascist like Jewish Communist gangs of untermensch.
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>>946437031
I'M ARGUING FROM A NATIONAL SOCIALIST PERSPECTIVE ANON
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>>946437051
Exactly. You don't actually want democracy. You want a single party in control and basically appointing people to office and the hollow form of democracy to provide the appearance of the people's approval. The same shit places like China and Cuba do.
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>>946437066
you're an untermensch tho anon
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>>946437057
Actually you have to follow the law. The law says blacks and women get to vote.
And no matter how hard your fucking side tries to stop that you're gonna keep fucking up

because you are fuck ups
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>>946437092
You're an uberfaggot, anon.
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>>946437093
>The law says blacks and women get to vote.
save act got smacked down lel
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>>946437066
No they were plenty of dumb shits like you in pre-Nazi Germany who fell for Hitler's garbage you aren't above any of that
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>>946437093
Literally nobody in mainstream politics is trying to disenfranchise women or blacks.
You are insane to believe this.
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>>946437116
Because the politicians and oligarchs want to be able to cheat. They don't actually want a democratic process.
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>>946437085
No I'm not a republican sorry
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>>946437128
Gaslight harder you fat fuck lol
That's exactly what your fucking side is trying to do
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Is this thread just one dude arguing with everyone else?

I hope you are getting paid for this man lol
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>>946437185
>Gaslight
Another word you apparently don't know the meaning of. Just go back to your redditbubble. At least there you have other dumbfucks to agree with.
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>>946437297
Nah, this dumb fuck spends his entire waking life doing this. It's literally the only thing he does.



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