It's been a while, but I am sure the NRA nutfucks will consider 3 kids dying "not a big deal".Another teenager with easy access to guns walks into a school and kills kids and a teacher, thankfully someone who clicked what was going on followed him in and took him out before he could do more damage, if not for that bystander the numbers could have been easily higher as the teen had a lot of ammo on him.Why do Americans allow this shit to continue, why are they so scared of more stringent checks so people with mental illnesses, ties to extremists etc can't easily get guns legally?
they wont care in their heads they need guns to keep people safe yet dont understand those kids in schools all these years werent safe due to guns being easily accessible.they drink the kool-aid well.
Every school in the USA should have a gun club with mandatory firearms training for every student and teacher. That's the only way this shit will stop.
>>955168838>elementary school gun club Yeah what a great idea. Why has no one thought of this before?
>>955168838So teach other kids how to use guns so when older they to can walk into a school and kill more kids? Is your head actually working?
>>955168992Who the fuck is going to attempt to shoot up a school where everyone is armed and is trained in marksmanship?
>>955168369When are people going to start acting on warning signs instead of being afraidnto offend sociopaths?
>>955169016Someone with mental health issues and who doesn't give a fuck?Why did that guy in the news recently kill all those soldiers in a place where there is people armed and trained in marksmanship?
When a person commits a crime, it's insane to pin the blame for that crime on strangers who had absolutely nothing to do with it.
I think it will take an NRA board member's own kid to be shot at a school to force potential changes. As long as it doesn't affect them nothing gets done, don't want to upset the gun manufacturers by lowering their profits.
>>955168949boy scouts start that early, its part of their civic duty
>>955168369Probably because if you give leftists an inch, they’ll take a mile. Agree to “common sense gun regulations” today and you’ll be giving up your guns like faggot Australia tomorrow.
>>955170296The NRA are just lobbyists who do their job better than anti-gun lobbyists. If you have a problem with legislation not being passed for gun control talk to your fucking governor, they are there to represent you. Hounding the NRA wont change shit, they arent a government entity, they dont create laws. So no, shooting some NRA representatives kids is not going to solve shit,, now youre just sounding like a domestic terrorist.
>>955169073Then you admit, even having an armed military even presents a threat therefore its not a gun issue its a people problem.
>>955176784That's liberals, not leftists. Leftists have guns.
>>955176921yeah traditionally US domestic terrorists are all far far lefties
>>955176921NTA but, Tomato potatoe...when partisan political retards take center stage there is no real center so left and right just become arbitrary lines to argue about. The real truth is that more people choose to simply not participate than do so youre essentially subdividing an already minority problem.
I honestly think if the US goes on like this there will be much bigger problems in a few years. The Country is just Fucked
>>955176998not for anything to do with guns, guns are fine. schools are mostly fine.
>>955176998>2 more weeks guise>the world is coming to and end>2 more weeksShut the fuck up zoomer, the 2008 financial crisis caused more outrage and backlash than the epestein files ever managed to generate and we are still clipping nigger. Go bury your head in the sand in europe if you want to be a negative nancy.
>>955168574The guns are stolen, not "accessed", criminals dont care about your laws bud.
>>955168369Teenagers and mentally ill cannot legally get access to firearmsI’m so sick of Leftoid faggots and snaggletooth tea toddlers thinking you could just walk into any gas station in America and purchase a firearm You must be of age you can never be convicted of a felony of any kind as well as a series of misdemeanors like domestic assault and what not you must pass a background checkSome states implement a cooldown. You’re not even allowed to take it home today.
>>955177214All those Black people ransackedin the store are just “accessing” the NikesRetard love semantics because it makes their dumb ass sound like less of a dumbass
>>955168369You retards just don’t understand realityTaking the guns out of America, it would be like taking the tea out of BritishCan you imagine that can you imagine tomorrow, tea’s banned anybody who has tea goes to prison?Random home inspections no want no warrant just coming in to make sure you don’t have teaNo imagine from the other side anybody that does possess a teabag can instantly fucking kill youThat’s what you’re working with
>>955169073>Because there are lots of mass shootings at gun shows and gun ranges, where there are guns everywhere, oh wait...
>>955178390They don't think.Say you want to deport illegals and they are like>Hahaha it's literally impossible. Do you know how many there are? You would have to go door to door and there isn't the manpower.Then when talking about guns they think we could get rid of them all when there are more guns than people in the USA, and they are easier to hide than people.
>>955177214The majority of "school shootings" are done with firearms obtained legally, often by a parent who doesnt restrict access to their guns. Maybe technically stolen, but most wouldn't consider your kid borrowing your shit stealing.
School shootings are baked into american society. They are as American as Apple Pie and a president that fucks kids. Nobody cares. Three less kids to go die for Israel. Infact that might be the thing that gets MIGGERs finally worked up enough to do something about this. If they kill all the kids who will we send to die for Israel. Thoughts and prayers !!
>>955178598Its much worse than that.If all guns in the U.S. magically disappeared overnight, criminals would have new guns by lunchtime.Cocaine is illegal and has been for a long time. Its smuggled into the country daily. And thats even a consumable that has to be replaced. Guns are just metal and plastic and are even easier to smuggle.The U.S. doesnt control its borders and until we do nothing can realistically be done.
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>>955178608Retard warning No, it is stolen anything taking without consent is stolen not technically stolen fucking stolen. Why don’t you go borrow your mom‘s car without asking and see what happensGod you fucking retards love semantics
>>955178703Yeah, like the BRITs and getting sliced up by minoritiesOr going to prison over a joke tweetOr getting arrested after you’ve been stabbed because the stabber was a minorityThings that would cause mass outrage in any other country on the planet are just accepted there
>>955178598If we make abortion illegal, it’ll just happen illegallyWe need to ban gunsYou can literally pre-choose the preposition and verbs you’re gonna hear anytime a lefty is talking depending on if it supports their cause or notThey truly don’t think
>>955179308I also love their double standard of>Muh constitution, CHUD!When talking about 2nd amendment rights of citizens. But when talking about illegal aliens who skipped the due process of legal immigration they suddenly scream>Nooo, these criminal non-citizens have constitutional rights!
>>955176956>yeah traditionally US domestic terrorists are all far far leftiesand traditionally, US right wingers are liars. >"Right‑wing extremist violence is more frequent and more deadly than left‑wing violence − what the data shows"https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/119311/documents/HHRG-119-JU00-20260520-SD043.pdfThere is a report, from the US government which demonstrates just how much a lie that is. >Right-wing extremist violence has been deadlier than left-wing violence in recent years. Based on government and independent analyses, right-wing extremist violence has been responsible for the overwhelming majority of fatalities, amounting to approximately 75% to 80% of U.S. domestic terrorism deaths since 2001.>By contrast, left-wing extremist incidents, including those tied to anarchist or environmental movements, have made up about 10% to 15% of incidents and less than 5% of fatalities.
>>955180740Im extremely right wing but this seems believable.
>>955180777>but this seems believable.that's because its a government report which breaks down the factual data.There are plenty of more in-depth studies out there too which corroborate and confirm the findings.honestly, what's unbelievable is that it was the congress.gov url, it was easy to find, and with the current government, the page hasn't been scrubbed entirely .
>>955180740When you follow the sources you quickly find this is a bunch of ADL nonsense and they count Muslim violence as right wing and then try to blame white chuds.And then when you expose them they just repeat the same lie tomorrow. I have wasted hours debunking this shit for the last few years and they keep posting it.
>>955168369>Blaming everything but niggers and destruction of white culture.Shut the fuck up, sukdip.
>>955177028Not really, high schools keep graduating people who are illiterate. >>955168838We need to fix our schools to be more effective at actually educating students instead of just being daycare for kids whose parents didn't care enough to read them some books before bedtime. When that problem gets fixed there can be gun clubs.
>>955180960>When you follow the sources you quickly find this is a bunch of ADL nonsense and they count Muslim violence as right wing and then try to blame white chuds.Gee. guess who didn't read the article? You! Yes, you're the idiot who didn't read it. the word "muslim" isn't mentioned. not once. there are no sources or citations in the report - instead it references examples, and is a self-contained summary, not a paper on the subject.the examples cited are:>Illustrative cases include the 2015 Charleston church shooting, when white supremacist Dylann Roof killed nine Black parishioners; >the 2018 Tree of Life synagogue attack in Pittsburgh, where 11 worshippers were murdered; >the 2019 El Paso Walmart massacre, in which an anti-immigrant gunman killed 23 people. >The 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, an earlier but still notable example, killed 168 in the deadliest domestic terrorist attack in U.S. history.But of course, you're going to scream, whine, and wail about how white people cant possibly be responsible for any wrongdoing, its all brown people's fault, and when the evidence shows otherwise, you're just going to lie about it. How fucking predictable, and so utterly pathetic.
>>955176864meanwhile the NRA donates millions to candidates all around the country, effectively owning them when they get elected.>noooo the NRA doesn't pass lawstheir bought congressmen do
Guess who is dishonest lying faggot, You!This is the link in pic related.https://www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2024https://theconversation.com/right-wing-extremist-violence-is-more-frequent-and-more-deadly-than-left-wing-violence-what-the-data-shows-265367
>>955181354Ok...sounds like you need to vote for better people (right, amirite!?!). What was it you said about bootlickers who support the police? Here you are touting that the government (which you also claim is corrupt because the IRA buys them out) needs to pass MORE GUN CONTROL LAWS in order to stop people from shooting up schools. Think on that one a bit, cognitive dissonance is evolutionary but the retarded fucking cartwheels youre doing just makes no sense.
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>>955181485>the conversation>based on meta samplingAaaaahahahahaha tell me you dont know how research works without telling me you dont know.
>>955168369Gun control will help this in the short term but it's only happening because your country has become a dumpster fire. America has had 2A for hundreds of years but this problem has only ramped up recently, identify the real cause (it's not guns).
>>955168369>super care about guns >laugh at Kirk murder>sends infinite guns to Ukraine Why are liberals like this?
>>955176921You have that backwards lol.
>>955181657Averaging for 25 years shows that its only has a small increase in recent years, not for as long as gun control issues have been raised which means they arent correlated. What is correlated is media expisure to "big shocking news" compared to letting it on lightly as news experts. Competition has created a need to be shocking and in your face 24/7/365. Youre right in saying there is one obvious cause of it, but its not what youre saying, its the media. School shootings have become the new fad because they are so prevalent in everyones petty little thought-sphere. Not because they are increasing in number, one hand washes the other.
>>955181563Follow the Congress.gov link here>>955180740And tell me what link is at the top of the page.As I said, you follow the sources and it is the ADL misrepresenting Muslim violence as white right wing violence. I have been debunking this same lie for 2 years.It is tiresome. And the most annoying part is you will post it again tomorrow too knowing full well it is a lie. You knew it was a lie when you posted it today too.
>>955177067Lol this. This stupid shit is repeated everywhere. The combination of being born a victim and just be so ignorant of history is hilarious. They all think they're living in the dark times of human kind because they have to browse social media.
>>955181733The media is part of the problem, yes.Keep going.
>>955178219The takes I see about America from foreigners is so funny. They act like it's fucking mad max. It's the same thing as anything, anyone who is that obsessed with someone else is because their own life is shit while they ironically tell you how much better their country is. This behavior exists outside nation to nation but everywhere on 4chan.The level of mental illness is honestly funny.
>>955181659>make statement about something>add a whataboutism that isn't really part of the subject of the statement but tangential at best.>Insert an utterly unrelated issue entirely as some half-baked "gotcha" that even a child would see through.Why are conservative regressives like this?
>>955181734Sorry i thought you where the anon favoring the argument, im not reading all that shit im just stirring the pot because youre arguing something that wont change its value or anyones opinion here. Welcome to anonymity, learn to have fun, nobody cares that youre "right".
>>955181733>>955181771Yeah pretty much but then you also have>>955181735So these kids are the same ones prepetuating it by the world sucks, whoa is me, doom scrolling, victim mentality shit. When you feel like you have no hope and want to throw it all away the in vogue thing to do is shoot up a school. And that's the irony is that they're the same ones getting baited into sensationalism.
>>955181771Thats all there is to it, the internet is media, the tv is media....all MEDIA bud, echochambers upon echochambers .
>>955181659>Why are reactionaries not like this
>>955181829And all of these spaces are full of unhappy people because...
>>955181773do you understand that the exact same thing can be said about Americans talking about what they imagine Europe / Middle East / Asia is like?
>>955181786>actually having values>nah, change your values based purely on who's in officeNTA but at least don't lean into it lol. >Ukraine And of course the right has to act retarded too and can't see the value in supporting Ukraine.
>>955181827Yes which 30 years ago wasnt as prevalent because we didnt have it constantly available in some form of media like the internet. As I said, its completely related to the media, not peoples mental states, thats a physical factor that could have easily just led them to suicide if shooting up kids wasnt prized media.
>>955181786>Guns are the problem guys and Ukraine isn't related We literally sent Ukraine like half a trillion in arms... if you are right wouldn't school shootings in Ukraine be insane if guns are the problem? >Hey Ai How many school shootings in Ukraine in the last 5 years? .... Go ahead and look that up.... If Guns are the problem what is the answer to that question? Go ahead and tell the class what the answer is ...
>>955181850Oh 100 percent. I'm not saying Americans know anything about anywhere else.. they don't. They also just don't care in general
>>955168369 OP likes menGuns and bullets should be idolized for making any Human be at the top of the food chain.I wonder what the numbers are, guns used for murder of other humans compared to being used for hunting animals.Guns and ve used as the ultimate deterrent, domestication of any animal under Humans is suddenly achievable.
>>955181848>muh societyFarming crops nigger, we stopped being humans the moment we started farming, fuck off psedo-faggot, the inherant issues of greater society have all but been solved, now its just drama.
>>955181284https://www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2024Your congress.gov link reference theconversation.com article. Theconversation.com references the ADL.Exactly as I said. Because I have debunked this countless times before.
We were born into a world, that normalizes the idea of:Bad thing in the world has to happen in order for me to have cool things and live a normal life.So yeah, the Window is now here= where shoots happen anywhere and life goes on, you can still buy abig mac and throw money at strippers in FL
>>955181925No, because your country has privatized healthcare, for-profit prisons, wage stagnation, a housing crisis, expensive groceries, and all your government wants to do is help foreign nations instead of its own people.All of the other politics is just a distraction from these basic things. It's just theater.America is falling behind.
And wanna know a cuzzy idea brain here had .. ...what if one of those peepoles that died was going to do more harm later in life. grow up to resent a certain color of people and keep a cycle going.>>955182024>>955181912
>>955182024And people also think that despite murder being illegal, bringing a gun into a school being illegal, brandishing a gun in a threatening way being illegal, discharging a firearm inside city limits while not using it for self defense being illegal, carrying a firearm concealed without a permit in Oregon being illegal...If they just had ONE MORE LAW WRITTEN ON PAPER THIS NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED!!!!!!!
>>955182139right, words on paper stop bullets, what a concept =]lol laws are just a way to get someone to do something for sometime else.instead of getting a good guy with a gun for every bad guy with a gun, it will never stop, evil and bad people are going to do bad things/infest good people with bad ideas n& ideas.
>>955181893>We literally sent Ukraine like half a trillion in arms... if you are right wouldn't school shootings in Ukraine be insane if guns are the problem?Are you a natural retard, or is this honed by decades of meth use? In case you hadn't noticed, Ukraine has a rather critical need for guns, because 20% of its sovereign territory has been annexed by an invading force who have captured 3.5 million of ukraine's population, kidnapped children, sending them to "re-education" camps, and is levelling entire cities with artillery, bombs, and tanks, and the only thing stopping the remaining 80% being taken is the guns, missiles, tanks and other weapons being sent to them by the rest of the world.. I don't know in what sort of insane demented fantasy world you think this has anything to do with school shootings in the US, but the fact you seem to be hellbent on suggesting they're linked is one of the most idiotic things I've ever read on this patagonain basket-weaving board.
