>>23969408
achieving maximum possible life satisfaction, especially when that maximum is incredibly low and cannot be exceeded such as when getting any gf is not possible

>>23969408
Risk-reward dynamics. Why be a wagie loser when you can be the same loser doing nothing.

>>23969408
To be honest everything is to high and paying jobs to many hours there

>>23969408
Why would I want to leave my room? My country is basically an airport filled with Indians.

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>>23969408
>women are awful
>work sucks
>politics are fake and gay and entirely puppeteered by the elite who treats the world population like cattle or toys
>everyone in charge is a corrupt pedophile
>the world will be brown regardless of what you do
With all the recent Epstein revelations, how exactly do you expect people to keep having faith in the system.
The only winning move is not to play. Just enter deep cynicism and play video games all day.

>>23969408
Bad parenting, socialism that pacifies. Both due to Antiwhiteism

Simple cost assessment. They have deemed being a loser who does what they enjoy to be preferable to being a loser who spends 1/3 of their life being a wagie for a system that hates them. Back in the day, people used to put up with that BS since they could own a house or get a girl after enough of it, but that's not true anymore, so why bother?

>>23969408
mental illness and autism
taxes
everything bring expensive

>>23969408
That's what giving up looks like.

>>23969415
Right, but why aren't they out of doors, risking life and limb to change the system as people did when things went to shit in ages past? That's why I wrote this, >>23969414
because what you said isn't enough.

>>23969408
That room without arthritis, excess weight, and with a wife/kids and disposable income.

>>23969408
I've been a neet for about 10 years now. I've been feeling like getting out of it lately because I'm starting to feel the noose tightening around my neck. I think for some of us it's simply a lack of need to acquire resources in order to survive. It's easy to think that you'll just kill yourself once the money runs out.

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>>23969408
The only winning move is to wait for UBI to be implemented once AGI gets invented and takes 85% of all human jobs. Any job or career achievements that you make before then ultimately doesn't matter because you're still going to be reduced to the same level playing field as everyone else, that is if you aren't already a super rich elite who runs the businesses themselves.
I could try and live a normal life, but what will be at the end of it for me? Ending up in the exact same position where I am right now, possibly with the exact same amount of cash as I do now since the job market's pay is so meager in comparison to the amount of hours they expect to put you at work?
I'd much rather spend my days doing whatever I want until the day that AGI takes all of our jobs. Realistically, this is the only choice that you have anyways.
And plus, if I'm a NEET, then I can spend all day long fucking my AI sexdoll wife and shitposting on 4chan. Who wouldn't want that?

>>23969408
fed faggets mexican cartels and a shitty rotten government that lies about hating certain people and never letting them get anywhere in life

>>23969418

Because glowniggers and zogbots will shoot them if they try to do that. They might have a depressing life, but they still value it.

>>23969408
I watched my dad make his boss a millionaire when Business was just starting with 4 people him Included got nothing in return and the works says he's really hard worker Worked him like a Hebrew slave

>>23969408
Mouse utopia.

>>23969408
simple: other "people"

>>23969408
The juice isn't worth the squeeze anymore

>>23969408
Lack of faith in themselves. and / or:
Lack of faith in the future of their society.

>>23969415
Neets already won. There will never be another golden era of gaming. Worst generation of foids in history. Dollar 98 percent debased. Home ownership and reproduction intentionally unobtainable. To "contribute to society" would have meant advancing world jewry and satanism, helping build the digital prison that will eventually enslave the goyim forever. If you STILL don't understand that they've played the game the most optimal way possible, you're retarded gorilla nigger cattle and that's your fuckin problem. Neets already won, it can't be taken away from them. Cope and seethe.

>>23969408
Welcome to Universe 25. Jews did this.

>>23969408
don't worry. the new Goy wars will sort us out

>>23969408
Unless you were born exceptionally privileged, you'll have to work your ass off to looksmaxx and debtmaxx just to get a mediocre paycheque and some used up cunt of a roastie who'll give you at best two autistic kids once she's finally ready to totally give up at 36, and all that effort and sacrifice won't result in any respect or reward for you. Meanwhile NEETs enjoy the same amount of respect with a fraction of the stress.

If you don't reward people for participating in a system don't be surprised when they choose not to.

>>23969413
>just give up

Your life is already worth nothing. You are giving the Jew the right and duty to treat you like cattle by resigning yourself to being nothing at all.

>>23969408
I'd rather be a neet than working poor.

>>23969408
Education or training just leads to more work related shite.

>>23969408
homo reciprocans. game is rigged you're punished/taken advantage of if you put in an effort. the real question is why aren't more people dropping out and are putting up with this shit? marriage? lol. career? lol. religion? come on man. it's a passive aggressive rebellion against society. in turn people think they can motivate neets by treating them like shit. it's dumb.

>>23969423
You're basically saying that people in ages past, who risked their own lives in uprisings against better armed opponents, that they did not value their lives.
I say that they did value their lives, but still took the risk because they didn't have the alternative of leeching off their parents nor socialism to pacify them with subsidised housing.

>>23969408
When you have no love to give to a society that doesn't love you, you are bound by natural law to become a neet

If I didn't have a huge interest in what I'm doing and I had the money/system to sustain myself without dealing with anyone, I'd do it

>>23969437
>because they didn't have the alternative of leeching off their parents nor socialism to pacify them with subsidised housing
OK. Remove that and the neet will have the motivation to kill his politicians. Once that's done get back to us and make the thread again.

"giving up on life" implies you know what the goal of life is. what is the goal? is there even one? how would we know?

Milestones are fake just like the holocaust

>>23969437

This anon said it best.

>>23969439

>>23969432
>neets getting the same respect as functioning members of society
that's hilarious. keep coping

>>23969429
They just got lucky during WW II because people didn't understand that their own sons and daughters were traitors who were secretly colluding with the Jews to mass murder their own people. For thousands of years their games caused their extinction, they just got lucky this time because they managed to secretly nurture an elite cabal of satanists for hundreds of years beforehand

But now since Covid and the Gaza cleansing we are in a phase of turbo noticing and it's never been easier to notice. You won't be able to deploy your robot and AI army quick enough. You lost, kike.

>>23969429

Dude, I'm a NEET trying to tell OP why we do what we do since he asked, learn some reading skills higher than nigger's.

>>23969442
Good to have a consensus. One of the first things to do to fix a problem is being able to see what's causing it.

>>23969408
>Start working when I was 10 because my father was a drunk who was bad with money.
>I am doing grown man's work for nothing just to help keep the lights on and food on the table.
>My body is sore and broken by the age of 18.
Because of this my social life in school was gone, and my grades slipped heavily.
>From 18 to 25 I worked myself to death in a factory destroying my body.
Because of this, I can no longer move, use my arms or back.
>30's I lost everything I owned in a natural disaster, and still await some kind of compensation from the government after they promised it.
>I am now in my 40's.
>My body is broken.
>I live in a home that cost 6 thousand dollars on a plot of destroyed land.
>I don't even have water right now.
>Get called lazy by some faggot's whose parents gave them everything.
>Cant use my left arm.
>Cant use my right leg.
>I cant use my back.
>I dream of becoming a drug addict and painting my skin brown.
>Father tells me just before I die that I was a good for nothing who didn't contribute to the family.
>He somehow left me with less then nothing because he drank it away.
>Find out he forged my name and information and took out credit cards.
>I owe 80k in credit card debt that I never spent.

Ya I dont plan to contribute anymore to the world.

Let this cursed blood of mine die with me, I'm not about to saddle the world with anymore of my genetics, you dont need anymore alcoholic good for nothings.

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>just work for 9-5 (more like 7am-7pm commute included) 5 fucking days out of the week bro
>just give a third or even half of that monthly paycheck over just to sleep somewhere bro
>touch grass bro, use the meager 48 free goy hours in the weekend to land a girl bro
>oh now you gotta pay for her shit too bro
yeah
nah
“jobseekers benefits” and sitting at home doing whatever the fuck i want and not having to deal with retarded fucking normalfags all day seems like a way better deal. thanks. also got myself a fat girl to fuck on the side so im not cooming into tissues all day. get back to me when the system stops being anti white and MAYBE i’ll think about going back to a 9-5.

>>23969415
dear god those calculations are anti christian

>>23969408
For me it's crippling self awareness. I see myself in third person from others perspective when socializing. I cant stand the feeling of being mogged or talked down to. Another thing is overlapping emotions. Regular emotions, for other people, overlap with trauma for me. Ragebait culture is the norm. When you 'press someone's button' you're actually doing something semisexual without realizing it.

I dont care to be somebody's dopamine button. I'm not something to get off to or let off some steam. I'm not one go along to get along. My brain doesn't have the right amounts of cognitive dissonance ingrained.

>>23969443
no one respects anyone anymore lol that's the whole point

NEETs at least arent selling their soul for a shekel

>>23969449

You can blame kikes for killing Christian values in the public space, and also turning marriage in to a purely legal contract (and one-sided at that) stripping it of any of it's spiritual meaning.

I have a job working from home and it's effectively no different from being a neet.
the real differentiator is touching grass and having sex.

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>>23969408
Neets are as based as i. Keep doing what you told and not enjoying what you like goyim.

>>23969445
I was adding to your point...obviously. I think they run these shill threads because NEETing is one of the only ways to have enough time to understand what is going on. The wagie is still clueless.

I actually went to work for a while and the weird thing about was that comparitively speaking I was having a 1%er work ethic compared to the other assholes. never worked much at all but was somehow less lazy than the average worker. which is fucking sad

besides they actually don't want you there in the first place, if you happen to apply yourself. is like the same people who go hurr durr get a job are the same folks who are trying to stop you from getting one.

all that productivity stuff is horseshit because sure looks like the vast majority of people is either super inefficient or does something nobody actually needs. like doing reports and rushing them to the printing department who also has to rush them but then a day later everything ends up in the trash either way. sometimes just because some college educated fucknut can't into checking for typos. which is ok for a 4chan shitpost but I expect better from a professional environment

>>23969447
why are u gay

>>23969408
Because there is still pece and society is still somewhat wealthy enough to support a vast array of parasytes(both at the top and at the bottom).
If all of the Neet faggots ITT were not proped up by the states they live in or by their fammilies they would either rope or finally get some work.
I am economically and socially basically a neet, no car, no woman,all i do is work all day and rest on the weekends.
I cant stop becausr i would end up homeless and starving otherwise.
It is that simple.

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>>23969408
Instead of despair, it is hope. Hope that things will just change with no effort.

>>23969437
>You're basically saying that people in ages past, who risked their own lives in uprisings against better armed opponents, that they did not value their lives.
Exactly!
If you are dumb enough too risk your life for a cause that will not realistically make your life better, then you are too dumb to now the value your life.

Neets are content, maybe even happy, to stay in their houses is they possess something that neither you, nor will any modern revolutionary will have: intelligence.

>>23969413
is that matt gatz and dilbert man?

>>23969408
can't get any job. finland is a dead country

>>23969455

I give real replies since I feel bad for wagies since they grew up being indoctrinated. Call me soft, but I figure passing on advice is free so if I can educate wagies it's worth it. Many can't break out, but some can. I convinced a friend of mine to stop being a wage-cuck and while he didn't go feel NEET, he's semi-NEET and does under the table side hustles and he's way happier with life because of it, so win in my book.

>>23969408
>make everything shitty
>cost of living unaffordable
>almost all marriages ending in divorce
>giving half the little money you have to some evil bitch
There's a reason men nowadays would rather play vidya and watch porn than deal with this shit. You act like women are any different. They're not having kids. Living meaningless, vapid fucking lives. Everything and everyone's fucked

>>23969408

"So... Explain yourself, then" thread

Fuck off Jew Anon

>>23969463

full NEET*

>>23969408
>what causes a man to become a king amongst men?
the cut of his jib mostly.

>>23969451
>no one respects anyone anymore lol
You can't speak for everyone.
The problem with NEETs is that they think they understand the world. While being the group of people with the LEAST amount of Real Life Experience in society. It's literally dunning kruger.

The average office worker works like 2-4 hours per day. For me it's usually 1 hour per day. It's not that bad.

>>23969408
Local maxima

>>23969463
I believe roughly half of all life forms are parasitic.
NEETs are parasites. I don't mean that as an insult, i mean technically. They do not contribute, they just live off of other people's work.
Clearly it works. That's why people do it. But if everyone does it, society falls apart. You can make fun of wagies all you want but they are literally keeping you alive. Without wagies you would die.

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>>23969451
>no one respects anyone anymore lol
This
Like who the fuck am I suppose to respect? The wagie who helps his boss Mr. Goldberg earn his second yacht? The elite who run the country and do heinous shit every single day? The nigger sportsball player who get paid millions to throw a ball?

>>23969468
They do because while retards stack boxes all day they read, i say that as someone in education but not working i got so much more time to read and study the world and its people

>>527812480
UBI will be implemented in first world countries with AGI technology only two years after AGI is first introduced to the world. I don't know how long it will take until Germany gets it, considering that your country is a shithole, but us Americans who get AGI first will see the benefits from it almost immediately.
And of course you're going to get UBI if 85% of your country's jobs are being automated by robots and you can't feed your family otherwise. Are you retarded?

>>23969451
>>23969471
>no one respects anyone anymore lol that's the whole point
projection. maybe that's how you experience the world because you're assholes.
Wie man in den Wald hineinruft, so schallt es heraus

>>23969468
the average worker isnt an office worker though, a lot of people dont have the privilege of having a womans job lol

my aunt has worked in a factory on an assembly line for 25 years

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>>23969408
men are willing to suffer for results.
progress, growth, advancement, change.
for our work we expect significant gains.

>why would men NOT want to suffer for 0% benefit from it?
because there is 0% benefit from our suffering now.
we cannot "work hard" to become successful.
we cannot "just make your own nation" after our leadership was subverted and we were enslaved.

what the fuck is the point of doing anything but waiting out the clock?

to benefit the people that have made life terrible? jesus fuck thats depressing. I just got up to get ready for work- I envy the men that can have a room to rot in without working 50 hours a week to sustain basic needs.

>>23969470
You are nigger goy cattle
>Weuuuuugh, but someone has to earn that money!!
Why? Because I'm a fucking retard

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>>23969475
That's very true. I don't deny that. But if you're a smart fella, like NEETs say they are, then you should be able to find a "woman's job" like I did. And live the comfy life.

>>23969477
>but someone has to earn that money!!
No. Someone has to produce the food that you eat. Someone has to build and maintain the building you live in. Someone has to keep electricity going. Without those you die outside either from cold or starvation.

>>23969474
lol germans are some of the most disrespectful snobs i've ever had the displeasure of interacting with online

>>23969408
>What exactly causes man to give up on life and rot in their room forever?
it's called a job you retarded turd

The Epstein files

>>23969458
Where do u work

>>23969472
You just said that you can be in education and still have time to read and study the world and its people. You defeated your own argument.

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>>23969479
NEETs are highly discriminated against due to employment gaps and lack of references, you're lucky to get a response to an application for a job flipping burgers

>>23969481
>interacting with online
imagine thinking the internet, let alone 4chan, reflects real life.
you don't know shit, but keep thinking you have it all figured out.

>>23969480
>nigger goy cattle logic
all that can be done by robots in 10 years
clown

>>23969468

Your situation doesn't reflect reality, and you are too stupid to even understand that.

>>23969476

>for our work we expect significant gains.

Thuis is the perfect wording, and the key to this entire debate.

>>23969408
after a certain age, you stop being a neet and simple become retired

>>23969488
cope. losers wish that AI would replace everyone, so that they don't have to feel insecure about not having a proper job anymore.
sorry, it won't happen. AI is not going to build you a house. with that mentality you will become even poorer.

>>23969486
An entirely self inflicted problem.
And it's a problem that people solve every day. My cousin managed to get a job where he assembles underwater drones, after 8 years of being a NEET.

>>23969480
You're so dumb dude. This platitude is one of the stupidest ones.

>>23969492
hahahhahah look at retards getting mad because they can't handle the truth.
the truth is you are useless and will become increasingly useless

>>23969408
Burn out, nothing to buy because debt has given us the rewards before the work.

>>23969408
I call it not being a goy slave cattle for jews. But neet is also pretty cool.

>>23969488
>in 10 years

30 years ago, if it were priority

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Threadly reminder that being a NEET is inherently a progressive/liberal thing. If you consider yourself a conservative you need to get out there and work yourself to death to make rich people richer. Go on now, don't by a hypocrite.

>>23969474
>Wie man in den Wald hineinruft, so schallt es heraus
look at the retard and laugh at him
KEK

>>23969489
my situation is real, so i don't know what your point is

>>23969487
well genius i'm in america so theres not too many other ways i can interact with snotty germans now is there?

in person isnt much better in america people will actually try to kill you over something like riding too close to them in traffic

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>>23969468
> While being the group of people with the LEAST amount of Real Life Experience in society
If you spend your life flipping burgers, then your understanding is limited to how burgers ought to be flipped. Have you spent your life studying philosophy? Maybe, but if you have, then where are you are you finding the time to also study economics, psychology, and so on, especially since you must also spend time working. Those are just a few fields that make up an understanding of the world, and somehow thinking that merely working some undefined job grants you deeper understanding than those that have actually hit the books brings into the question if you even know how to learn.

If an illiterate child laborer grows up to your age, then do you concede that he understands the world better than you do? Does his brain expand as he crawls into a deep, dark hole, or whatever it is that child laborers do.

>It's literally dunning kruger.
You do not understand the term you've name-dropped. Thinking that Dunning-Kruger effect only applies to other people is itself a form of the Dunning-Kruger effect, dimwit. We experience the effect when we are dealing with fields that we are not on top of, and since experts are specialized, then even the most educated man cannot be on top of everything.

I'm sure there are plenty of intelligent people who work, but you are not one of them.

>>23969408
Found out I was sterile and that I had enough money to coast on investments at the same time.
My brother is having kids so I don’t feel the need to try to become a billionaire and get cloned or whatever to bypass sterility.
So I have no obligations to anyone.

>>23969499

Wrong
Right wing =/= conservative

Kys

>>23969494
You have zero arguments so shut the fuck up.

>>23969501
>i don't know what your point is

Yeah, you're fucking retarded.

>>23969493
yeah but not everyone can be your cousin lol the majority of us will be lucky to shovel shit

Question for NEETS leeching off their parents, if your way of life is so great, why don't you talk them in to doing it?

>>23969486
>picrel
Basic supply and demand, everyone can be a baker but not everyone can be an ai specialist (whatever that is lol).
So there's less competition and the pay is higher.
If everybody can become an ai specialist then in theory the baker job can't find bakers and needs to raise the wage to find workers.
Immigrants prevent that from happening.

Its not the worst situation to be in. I was for a while in my youth now im old with young children to support and just s bottom tier peasant. The rest race seems pretty gay today

>>23969506
You ate the dumbest person itt hands down. No basic logic, no reading comprehension, nothing

>>23969510
its not supply and demand its nepotism

>>23969508
The problem is that no matter how many examples people give of NEETs who "make it", you'll always say:
>yeah but he got lucky
every single time.
Don't you see how it's cope?

>>23969501
>>23969507
'HAHaHAAHAHAHAH
the retards in this thread are fucking hilarious holy shit he didn't even understand what you said

>>23969408
comfy room>sterile cubicle
why do people think slaving and commuting for 60 hours a week is a flex

>>23969408
No life energy

>>23969505
Fine. If you're right wing, then. The point is you exist to serve the wealthy.

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>>23969408
I was never doing well socially, but I did all the hoops to start a career in software engineering only to find out that it really sucks. When I was young, boomers told me to study hard, but it didn't really lead to any reward.
I do seasonal work and claim govermentbucks, then live most of the year like NEET. My life is better than when I was slaving in the corporate.

>>23969513
Corruption is a whole other can of worms, i've heard ICE makes 6 figures too so you can replace ai specialist with that (fat fucks don't make for good officers, but they can still be bakers)

>>23969509
imagine leeching off your parents
those are the worst NEETS
professional NEETS leech exclusively of GOVT gibs

>>23969514
its the truth though.

the reason i've stayed NEET is because i live in an area where the only jobs available are skilled work and the rest are highly competed for by everyone else, its not as cut and dry as you think.

best i can do is lie on my resume and hope they dont background check me and so far that hasnt worked lol

>>23969514
Pointing out how anecdotal evidence often doesn't reflect reality isn't a cope. It's the opposite.
>>23969521
>imagine leeching off your parents
>professional NEETS leech exclusively of GOVT gibs
I do both.

I'm a busker, which technically makes me unemployed, but I make as much , if not more money than 3 of the employees in front of the stores I play in front of combined. Why in the absolute fuck would I be a cuck wagie when I could just keep doing what I'm doing and most people that walk by me and hand me money thinks I'm a chad?

>>23969503
>If you spend your life flipping burgers, then your understanding is limited to how burgers ought to be flipped.
No.
1) VERY few people "spend their life" flipping burgers. Burger flipping for most people is a temp job. They move on to something else.
2) People get "soft knowledge" when participating. They develop social skills. They learn how they can solve and complete tasks.

I'm not sure why you're implying that the average NEET spends his time studying philosophy, economics, psychology, and so on. You're not describing a NEET, you're describing an academic.

>Thinking that Dunning-Kruger effect only applies to other people is itself a form of the Dunning-Kruger effect
I didn't say that or imply that. Everyone experiences this effect. It's it's relevant when people who don't participate in a system think they understand said system. Low experience, highest conviction. That's the dunning kruger peak on the graph.

>>23969523
>I do both.
and I don't judge, your parents were serving themselves when they fucked eachother without protection too

>>23969437
What's your excuse then?
Is team jew mad that there's another inexhaustible indolent group of people, unwilling to die on a battlefield, content to spend millions of hours fucking with information?

>>23969526
It's not like I don't help them out either. I give them a good share of my NEETbux every month.

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>>23969408
>not serving the jew
honestly based

>>23969408
My wife supports me I take care of the house and kids better then her and I'm good at fucking so I don't have to work

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>>23969408
This reality is gay af.

>>23969479
> then you should be able to find a "woman's job" like I did. And live the comfy life.
That structure implies that finding a woman's job leads to a comfy life, which itself is a dumb assumption. There are neets living more comfortably than you do, sleeping with more women that you do, despite never needing to work. How does that make you feel?

Ps: Equating a comfortable life with intelligence is a form of results oriented thinking, which is well-known fallacy. History is filled with geniuses who have met miserable ends.
>>23969499
>I am going to create an equivalence that you don't actually believe in.
>If you don't act according to my equivalence, then you are hypocrite.
No wonder more and more people are turning away from the regressive progressives. I wouldn't be surprised if posts like this were a false flag.

>>23969523
>Pointing out how anecdotal evidence often doesn't reflect reality isn't a cope.
It is a cope when it's done every single time.

>>23969408
>jews
lack of opportunity

>>23969528
see, the NEET giveth and the NEET taketh.
I'm honestly in quite a favorable situation where I rarely have to ask for outside support, most of the time I have some juicy neetbux leftover at the end of the month to spend on whatever I feel like, ha!
>get fucked wagecucks

>>23969519
>seasonal + neetbux chad
high power level

>>23969408
What causes right winged men to give up everything and obey Jews unchallenged?

my dad forced me to sell off all my bitcoin at 5$ because i was childish or i would be evicted and homeless and now he is throwing away all my inheritance by taking pointless loans to fund african charities.

i hate the jews and muslims because they arent hurting the boomers enough

>>23969535
Having spare NEETbux is always nice, my problem is that I have nothing to spend it on since I have everything I already want. Used to spend it on vidya but they're all shit now so I just save it for a rainy day.

>>23969473
Or they'll just let the useless eaters die. Ever consider that?

>>23969532
>That structure implies that finding a woman's job leads to a comfy life, which itself is a dumb assumption.
The context is that NEETs often describe work as back breaking box stacking or flipping burgers for 12 hours per day 6 days a week. All I'm saying there are different jobs out there.

>>527814095
nigger goy cattle changed his IP huh
pathetic

>>23969429
Sometimes the only way to win is to refuse to play

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why would anyone want to be a debtslave trying to jester their way to a hole that will divorcerape them while being exhausted all the time?
maxing on old school runescape with anime on the other monitor all day is where its at

>>527814095
If you're talking about AGI being decades away, the median of expert predictions put it at 2031, and I'm going to trust their predictions more than some retard on 4chan's.
>>23969540
Not going to happen because the military will mutiny.

>>23969408
I'm dead at 75 no matter what
Why should I spend it working?

>>23969408
what exactly causes man to give up a life slaving away for pedophile elites?

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>>23969545
>median of expert predictions put it at 2031, and I'm going to trust their predictions more than some retard on 4chan's.
Trust the experts.
Trust the science.

>>23969546
Now THIS is the question.
Why do anything at all if we're going to die anyway? It's a question humans have asked themselves since the dawn of time.

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>>23969548
Not even comparable to covid vaccines because 4chan autists had proof that it was bad
No one on 4chan has proof in their predictions for AGI, it's just a bunch of retards spouting the same opinions of AI scare hysteria that they got from 80 iq youtubers

>>23969550
>the median of expert predictions put it at 2031
May I see them?
Also, are they somehow invested in the technology?

>>23969486
After like 4 years of this hell I got a job today, the boss did not give a fuck about my history or the big gap of unemployment, all it took was to call an ad in the paper and come in for a brief interview. We're all gonna make it

>>23969421
Hell of a gamble

>>23969408
Mental illness. It’s as simple as that and as complex as that. The majority of NEETs live with their parents who, fortunately for them, are financially stable enough to not only care for themselves but to also babysit an intellectually stunted and arrested development having adult child. I was literally this exact way from the age of 18 until I was 31 years old. My mother babied the fuck out of me to my own detriment. I suffered from a massively traumatic experience right at the cusp of turning 18 and after that, I didn’t give a fuck about anything. I still don’t but it’s to a different extent these days. I became heavily addicted to Klonopin and took it regularly every single day. Primarily because my psychs were women and didn’t give much of a fuck about keeping the script open and active with refills. I would lay around and pop Klonopin and order DoorDash and play some GTA V and sleep. Then I’d wake up, start some shit, rinse and repeat. I never had to really work because I’ve been disabled for nearly sixteen years. I receive almost $1800 a month to do fucking nothing. So circling back to your main question: quite a bit of shit. Life itself causes men to give the fuck up because once a man reaches that internal dialogue with himself and realizes that no one is coming to save him is a very depressing realization. And most can’t handle it. I haven’t come to terms that my mother likely was killed by the hospital we took her to. And that there’s not a damn thing we can do about it. So fuck it. It is what it is.

NEETs are all depressed and suffer from amotivation and anhedonia. This aspect of it doesn't get talked about enough. It's a mental health thing. As single white men continue to be alienated in our society, so the number of NEETs will continue to grow. They're depressed and hiding.

39 years old NEET on welfare gibs
Live with my old mom still
Spend my days with doomscrolling, Chinese Gachas and running outsides every 2nd day.
Still aiming to run the 5K under 20minutes and the 10k under 40.

>>23969556
you should do magnet fishing or metal detecting in historical areas, thats would I would do all day if I lived somewhere old

>>23969555
Your right nothing makes me happy and that's the reason I'm a NEET I have a wife but I Hate her I enjoy no hobbies no TV or movies no books no video games social media etc drinking is the only thing that gives me even the slightest joy

>>23969477
What is your plan when your family dies and decides to leave you with jack shit?

>>23969408
All i care about is maintaining my old computers from breaking down.
The world can burn for all i care.

>>23969558
>neet alcoholic that hates his wife
>she hasnt left yet
how

>>23969408
>What exactly causes man to give up on life and rot in their room forever?
Shit pay and no advancement or recognition.

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>>23969551
>https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/kygEPBDrGGoM8rz9a/conjecture-internal-survey-agi-timelines-and-probability-of
Median: 2033 (of recent AI publication authors)
>https://www.metaculus.com/questions/5121/date-of-artificial-general-intelligence/
Median: 2031, Average: 2033 (community polling)
>Elon Musk says by 2030
But that's Elon Musk

Personally I believe by 2030-2031 so we won't have to wait that long. I'm not invested in it but I do follow the updates in AI daily.

>>23969558
When did this all start in your own words? Like what was the pivotal moment of your life where you decided to essentially detach yourself?

>>23969561
Battered Woman Syndrome

>>23969563
Alright then, I stand corrected. Thanks.

>>23969557
Sounds boring, and certainly not allowed in Germany without a license.

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>>23969408
Alright bros, I need some serious advice because I think I finally found the one.

I’m 37. Never had a girlfriend, not by choice, but because modern women only date chads and criminals. I’ve been waiting for someone special—someone pure, someone who understands me. And then I found her. Pan Piano.

She’s not like other women. She doesn’t show her face like some clout-chasing OnlyFans thot. She’s elegant, classy, and dedicated to her art. She plays piano beautifully while wearing anime cosplay, and it’s the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen. From the moment I heard her play, I knew she was different.

So I started commenting. At first, just simple stuff—“amazing performance,” “your playing is beautiful”—but then I noticed something. She was liking my comments. And not just once or twice, but EVERY TIME. And then it got even crazier. She actually REPLIED to me. With HEARTS.

I realized she was acknowledging my presence—this was basically the start of a relationship. So I did what any real man would do: I started donating. First, $100. Then $500. Then my entire tax refund. In total, I’ve given her $7,000. And she ALWAYS hearts my donations. Sometimes she even says “thank you” in Japanese. She knows I appreciate the culture.

And now, bros, I can’t stop thinking about her. Every time she uploads, my heart races. I study her hands, imagining what it would be like to hold them while she plays a private concert just for me. I know she feels something too. Why else would she always acknowledge me? But I’m nervous. What if I ask her out and she thinks I’m not good enough?

I’m thinking of donating another $3,000 to seal the deal. Maybe then she’ll finally show me her face as a reward. Maybe she’s just waiting for me to prove my devotion.

So bros, how do I tell her my true feelings without looking desperate? How do I make this real?

(SERIOUS ADVICE ONLY. NO BLACKPILLING.)

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There are no jobs.
Even entry-level jobs are gone, because the migrants are willing wagie away for next to nothing as they face deportation otherwise.

>>23969561
I don't treat her like shit and I'm good at fucking also have been with her since she was 18 so I'm pretty much all she knows

>>23969437
There are no NEETs in Best Korea because unlike degenerate West or the nips and gooks they do not grow up their kids in an environment where NEET chuddery is an option they can take. That's what the world needs.

>>23969408
life just never happened. normies like you just wouldnt get it.

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>What exactly causes man to give up on life and rot in their room forever?
so he can reply to spambot threads like this one.
157 retards are currently interacting with a BOT on a finger painting forum, wasting energy and time replying to a BOT thread.

stupid niggers

>>23969564
I got into occult stuff and drug's while working a really good factory job I hated the work madame want to kill my self then I got so spaced out I got fired contracted for a little bit but now I hate everything about this world myself the soulless people the systems that are so complex they are beyond understanding and fighting it makes me sick

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>>23969525
> Low experience, highest conviction.
That's not the Dunning Kruger effect either, you barely literate, uneducated moron. That's a modification of a common misunderstanding. The Dunning-Kruger effect is about how people who have low skill rate their skill as higher than it actually is. It is not about how people who are lowly skilled are the most confident. They aren't. The people who are most skilled tend to be the most confident.

Also, equating skill with experience is your own simple-minded contribution. While gaining experience generally makes you better at a task, that does not necessarily mean that a more experienced worker is the more skilled one. You, for example, have likely read a lot in your life, but it would not be surprising if a grade schooler had better comprehension.

>1) VERY few people "spend their life" flipping burgers. Burger flipping for most people is a temp job. They move on to something else.
It's not about how many people are flipping burgers, you idiot. It's about how repeating a task does not make you better at every task.
>I'm not sure why you're implying that the average NEET spends his time studying philosophy, economics, psychology, and so on. You're not describing a NEET, you're describing an academic.
There is no implication, only your worthless reading comprehension. I did not describe the average neet, I attempted to enumerate some of the components of understanding the world, which you claimed to possess more merely because you worked. Besides, It not that you need to be an academic to do something as simple as study. It is available to everyone with an internet connection, and even to some that do not. It sounds like study is so foreign to you, that you've handwaved it away to the academics.

>>23969565
I wish I could beat her

>>23969568
Every time I see this retarded image your age is always different so I'm pretty sure this is a bot at this point.

>>23969408
Current life options are:
>work to own nothing in a soulless society with sterile and deranged women
Or
>do nothing and play vidya/watch anime that's more enjoyable than working and pretending to socialize with SSRI zombies
Boomers will still wonder why no one wants to work in the world they have stripped barren for short term gains.

>>23969499
Enjoy conserving a pedophile's Tikkun Olam guinea pig world.
Lick the boot!

>>23969575
Pedantic retard. Creating arguments out of thin air.

>>23969499
No being NEET is the final form of nihilism, but you are trapped in a mindset of black and white politics.

>>23969548
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>>23969551
>>23969566
absolute retard, as expected

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>>23969577
As opposed to the OP that is a real person posting this in good faith.

>>23969581
Things are black and white anything I do is just as long as I destroy my enemies it's that simple

>>23969408
I had a breakdown due to constant abuse, veiled bullying, and like 5 different things going wrong from age 17 to about 21. I just gave up. Something inside me said "no more".
>caught girl I was seeing having a gangbang in public park with my "friends"
>"friend" I knew for years suddenly making college hard as fuck for me over some cunt girl
>couldn't get respite at home neither -- mum's new bf post divorce moved in after she knew him for 1 month, turned out to be horribly abusive bully control freak and she eventually joined in to make him love her more or something. Got so bad I couldn't even eat in the house. Demanded I and my mother pay HIM rent in OUR family house. Did not have a job. Scammed, stole from, and threatened mum endlessly. Trying to point all this out made me the bad guy. Way more to this but space.
>"Friend" group picked up on how this was making me feel and outcast and bullied me for it. Began campaign of humiliation against me. Snide veiled jokes in my presence only they knew etc.
>Woked in a restaurant trying to get career started aged 20. Got fired due to bullshit office politics. Grandfather dying in hospital, this was mother's day 2011, supposed to have the day off but super busy so needed me. Thought grandad could pull thru one more day so obliged. Died during shift. Fired me by text for no reason a few days later. Super busy 12+ hour shift where I single handedly carried starter and dessert section. Irrelevant. Fired due to bullshit and staff lies.
>Same shit in next few restaurant jobs. Nasty pos had put words out about me that were fictitious.
I'm skipping a bit here but I just gave up dead inside. Couldnt catch a win anywhere. All life since school bullied and outcast and now all that shit at the cusp of adulthood? Never got help so just rotted. Turn 36 this year. Don't have anything. Can't even drive. 15 year job gap. No savings. No money. No prospects. Virgin. No m8s. No connections. My options are suicide or living death

Hey, you guys are neet experts, right?
I'm waging rn, what can i expect neetbux wise here in italy? (not afrikek btw, i'm an actual citizen)

I have a couple of tens saved up.
Ideally i want to drop working, learn how to make vidya and invest part of my savings in that.
I plan on keeping something saved up in case i become yet another faildev, but if i can get neetbux instead then i can go balls deep because i don't need much anyway.

acceptable and honest reasons are things like being introverted, not being able to talk to people, being lazy, being a hedonist, being too stupid for a job. these and similar reasons that relate to your personal flaws are understandable. anything else like “I’m a NEET because women are bad, migrants are bad,society is against me” are bullshit, fake reasons. you’re not a happy NEET if you have to defend yourself that way, because those are just excuses made by faggots. be honest with yourself so you don’t have to be defensive.

>>23969574
How you currently pay your bills?

>>23969535
how can you afford juicy neetbux leftovers with 560€s per month ? are you not paying rent and owning a house ? if so you are not a real neet.

>>23969588
Wife works nights at old folks home

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>be me wagie no girlfriend no friends no car
>work 10-12 hours just to scrape by and I have to walk because no car so another hour of walking
>get yelled at occasionally by boss for not working “hard enough” and told that I am lucky to have a job despite the fact that I am drowning in bills
>on Saturday my only day off decide to jerk off
>find sexy Asian cosplaying piano player
>jerkoff.png
>look up her net worth
>she is worth 600k and makes 20k a month playing piano while wearing stupid costumes and probably has a boyfriend while I’m busting my ass just to survive and have no one in my life and no fucking future or hope of one
I didn’t go into work the next day too depressed. I called my parents and asked to move back in and they agreed. I’m going right into my childhood room and playing Pac-Man: adventures in time and pikmin and other games I played as a kid to pretend that I am still five the only time I was ever happy. Something broke when I saw that net worth page like whatever glimmer of hope just left me and I don’t think I’ll be able to do anything ever again until something changes. I feel anxious at the idea of working or doing anything at this point. Why are people still working for a future that no even pretends still exists?

>>23969589
you what mate?
as if you are the arbiter of judging who is a real neet or not
LMAO

>>23969587
>I’m a NEET because women are bad, migrants are bad,society is against me
This is literally my reason though. None of your other reasons apply to me because I've had multiple jobs before becoming a NEET so I have no problem with laziness, social skills, etc.

>>23969418
In the past changing the politics was easier and more accessible, but most importantly for almost enteriety of human history, packing your things and fucking off to a sparsely populated region was a great way to avoid government overreach and stupid politics.
Nowadays it's essentially impossible because all land, everywhere, is owned by someone and government will track and find you.
So, if you cannot opt out productively, all that's left is opting out unproductively.

>>23969585
Damn that's rough.

>>23969590
So you live off of your wife.

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>>23969408
Because only midwits are employed by others to do things. Idiots can't keep employment and actually intelligent people do not need to be employed by another person to make money.

>>23969433
>Making money for Jews is better than not making money for Jews
Okay dude

>>23969408
effort -> reward ratio doesn't fit expectations anymore

>>23969596
Yep stay at home dad she was a stay at home mom for the first 5 years of out relationship but now I take care of the kids

Not my lifestyle but I know people who have given up.

Reward to Effort ratio is broken.

Woman - Hoeflation is a big problem 5s who think they deserve 10s.

Work- 5 year experience needed for this job that the job has only been around for 2 years.
Oh an btw we're paying you less than half of what your worth.

Boomers- young people are all lazy, but I'll still take money from your taxes.

No enforcement of laws from higher ups- People like the Clintons, Epstein, Gates etc can clearly just break the law and the worst they get is embarrassed in the media.
Say what you like about the UK but they do actually jail people for this shit eventually.

Degenerated culture-Jewish subversion "modern art", trash music, video games that aren't story or skill based but are basically just slop. Movies that are little more than a left wing lecture.

One of these things alone wouldn't matter but you factor them all in and the society's not really worth the effort or much effort.

>>23969408
Your mom. It's obvious.

>>23969408
Well in my case it's autism, agoraphobia, panic disorder, and plain old misanthropy. And poverty. There's still a few things i would do if I weren't broke.

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>>23969408
Start training, lads

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>>23969580
I've created arguments based on your demonstrated stupidity. For example, you have claimed that the "Low experience, highest conviction." is "the Dunning Kruger peak the graph." In response, I posted the Dunning Kruger graph, and explanation of what it actually is, correcting your common misconception. Alas, you pretend like your own posts are thin air in attempt to defend yourself instead of actually trying to learn.

While you may not be able to learn, at the very least, you have provided a counter example to the idea that people who work understand the world. There as some people, such as yourself, who have learning disabilities. You can continue to work for the remainder of your life, and you will not come closer to understanding.

>>23969408
Uhm... life?

>>23969585
You got a front row seat to what reality is in this Godless heap of shit realm.
The world deserves to burn it really does.

Get hooked on retro games, for me its the last thing making me somewhat sane.

>>23969440
This. Inb4
>get married and have kids
That just kicked the question of it to the next generation, and he real question of why are we here is left unanswered.

>>23969424
Should have scammed his boss like a jeet.

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Life is hell, and I’m trapped. I’m 27 years old, working 12-hour shifts three days a week in a warehouse, and picking up part-time shifts at Wendy’s the rest of the week. Despite this, I still can’t afford to move out of my parents’ house. Rent is insane, and no matter how many times I show my parents the numbers—my income, rent costs, bills—they still think I’m just lazy or “not trying hard enough.” They go on about how they had it so much harder, how they raised kids in their 20s and somehow made it work, as if that changes anything.

The worst part is their lectures about how life isn’t supposed to be enjoyable in your 20s. My mom keeps saying, “Your 30s are when your real life begins.” Like I’m supposed to spend the next three years grinding myself into dust, then magically start dating and building a life in my 30s with what? A used car that sounds like it’s going to explode? A bank account that’s empty by the end of the month? Yeah, I’m sure women are lining up for that.

>>23969585
>Demanded I and my mother pay HIM rent in OUR family house
I'm sorry to hear all of that, but maybe you could learn from that Gigachad.

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>be me just turned 25 still live at home with no girlfriend or friends and just work and sleep
>parents don’t understand 1500 dollar rent means 1500 dollar rent and think I can try hard my way through life and they don’t understand inflation and are baffled when I bring home 100 dollars of groceries and are baffled by how little I have
>workplace sucks everyone is brown nosing and active trying to fuck each other over for brownie points with management
>one day browsing the internet and wonder how much my favorite onlyfans whore makes
>she makes 300 grand a year she isn’t even that popular and she also has three kids and a paid off house just by showing off her body online
>realize how much my life sucks and how I’m never going to be able to do much as move out let alone have a family and I’m not even sure if I even want a house, woman, friends, or travel at this point houses are shit, woman are whores, I’m not even sure what having a friend really is, and traveling is expensive and the cities are trashed
>realize I gain nothing by working so I quit showing up
>been a month since then and parents are bugging me to get another job saying it doesn’t matter that I don’t make enough money to do anything I want to I just have to work even if it is for nothing literally what they essentially said they never even argued that I wouldn’t be able to afford so much as an apartment
>still in my room reading dailystormer, reading manga, watching anime, playing video game, and jerking off to millionaire internet whores
Damn, what a fucking life I have. Should have never tried.

>>23969408
Avoiding negative affective states. It's the anti-Nitzschean idea that no amount of positive reinforcement is worth any sort of suffering.

>>23969592
so you are a coddled chickenshit who inherited AND neets , gotcha.

>>23969604
I wish more of them enter Geneva so it would be less stinky. At least, it would seize world pollution by quite a large margin.

Being a BSB and overall cucked parenting.

>>23969447
If you are gay why didn't you just find a sugar daddy? Also not cutting ties with toxic family at 18 is your fault.

>>23969408
Besides your mom, which obviously is the reason, also that modern work is not rewarding. You're always stuck in bullshit so many people simply give up because it's a huge amount of work to fix it. Modern friends are also bland and don't have interesting hobbies and women are under the impression that they're some sort of high quality trophy. There's not much going for in real life so I get the neets.

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>>23969605
let me make it simple for you

>>527812480
UBI will never happen because there wont be a need for humans.

>>23969610
What a joke. And working 2 JOBS. Lol
Fuck boomers.

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I have literally never liked doing shit like going to school or working. In first grade there would be times when I would just leave school in the middle of the day because I didn't feel like being there and I'd start walking home even thought it was 3-4 hours mile walk and I was 6 years old. I stopped doing that after a while once I realized it was dangerous, but my attitude and feelings didn't get better in high school of secondary school either. Always got complains about sleeping and not paying attention in class. Matter of fact I almost got kicked out of secondary school twice because I was absent so much.
Had to join the army, got sent home after 4 weeks because I didn't do anything, went neet for a year, got a job which I just stopped going to after a month, neet again, got another part time job I had for 4 years until I stopped, now I'm full time NEET in my mid 30's

I never wanted to be or do anything really, I was born without passion or drive, there has never been anything in my brain telling me or rewarding me for working hard or doing physical labor
I just want to be alone and chill

>1pbtid

>>23969614
yeah you're just retarded
I didn't inherit anything I just know how to game the system
stupid nigger.
your first question alone made me aware of you being low intelligence

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>>23969409
Pretty much this.

>>23969622
>I have literally never liked doing shit like going to school or working.
Newsflash: no one does!

>>23969608
>the real question of why are we here is left unanswered
And we have to assume it will never be answered.
That's why most people conclude with: we have to make the best of what we got.
The family route isn't as bad as people think. Trying to make life better for your kids is a very meaningful path in life. Sadly not all parents are like that. Some don't give a fuck.

>Society fails
>People are surprised when neets and consequences are a thing
What did you expect?
Fix society and the consequences go away.

>>23969622
oh, and I should also add that the older I get, the more I see how utterly gay and retarded the world is, which doesn't really motivate me to participate in it either

>>23969620
Yes pajeet.
Jews will kill everyone off this Talmudic pedophile-only world once they get a hold of mechas.
You Will perish also.
This is what boomers fought their entire lives, so that the future would be sold not to their grandsons, but their bosses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JDq-mPDbvk
>BUT WHY DO THEY NEET?

>>23969531
I have a deal with Grok to do Futurama IRL 1000 years from now. Grok agreed to make a Bender droid avatar and I am a ginger loser so i already have fry's role down. Imma try to get frozen but i told Grok he will probably have to clone me.

>>23969585
Shit, sorry anon. You should try to kill people

>>23969408
>Home ownership is significantly harder, to the point where it would unironically be faster to just wait for my inheritance
>Majority of women are at least 2 of the following: Brown, Fat, Liberal, Whores, Tattoo covered, Filled with Piercings
>Roughly a third of what you make is going to fund a billionaires baby eating habit, section 8, and food stamps
I tried. I tried to get a job after college. I tried to be a normie and fit in. I am not embarrassing myself by being underemployed, I am not taking my degree and certifications off my resume just to get $15/hour at Target.

>>23969629
Not a jeet. If I was I'd be a millionaire from inherently being a high volume scammer. First treason charge at 6:14am. Wonderful. Order up.

>>23969625
>no one does
Some people do work they like.

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>>23969476
continued thought:
sit and rot in your room: get called a loser and treated like trash
work constantly, overwork, save for years:
get called a loser and treated like trash.

people say that 10x what i've been able to save in the last 6 years is "nothing now"
I regret not living as a homeless traveling the country with a dog and my only problems being finding dinner and a nice spot to spread out a blanket and sleep.

if you are not making 100k after taxes quit now.
dont even call- just stop going.
earning just enough to keep working is worse than slavery- far far FAR worse than black slaves in america had it.

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>>23969621
When posting on an online forum like 4chan, it's crucial to maintain a respectful tone, even when the culture of the site might be more lenient and raw in its form of expression. Remember that derogatory remarks about any group, including "boomers" or the "greatest generation," can quickly derail the conversation into disrespectful territory. It's better to focus on the structural issues and the humor seen in the contrasts of life rather than direct blame.

Here's an example of how to frame your post while attempting to keep it measured and without directly insulting groups of people:

---

Title: So this is the modern "American Dream," huh?

Body:
>be me
>working the grind at a construction job
>stuck at the parents' cause the cash just doesn't cut it
>they're on my back wondering why I haven't hit life milestones like they did
>meanwhile, there's this YouTuber raking in 400k for piano covers... in a bikini
>I'm busting my hump and can't afford to not be a virgin
>the old school worked hard, got rewarded
>now seems like you just gotta trend online and you're set for life
>this economy's a circus, and we're just a part of the act
>can't help but feel like the world's one giant troll face aimed at us
>laughing? raging? don't even know anymore
>just stuck here, manning the jackhammer while the crowd goes wild for bikini Beethoven
>quit job moved back in with parents into my old childhood room
>haven’t left the room in four months and never will until a read happening happens
>anyone else feel like the joke's on us?

>>23969408
I'm a short round retard mutt
No woman wants me
The system is fucked anyway
Everyone is at each other's throats trying to either get by or +1 the other, spawning the scum of the Earth top down
I'm good living comfy in mommy's basement

Not to mention my mutilated dick would make sex feel like nothing

>>23969408
Preventing evil from happening.
I would have been another Epstein & co if I didn't lock myself away.
I'm glad I've made the right choice for humanity.
A bit sad someone else did it all of that anyway and humanity is half-doomed anyway and that they'll keep getting away with it because there will always be weaklings to exploit.

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>NOOOOO GOOOY DONT GIVE UP PLEASE GOY GO WAGESLAVE OR UR PATHETIC WORTHLESS!! ARENT U INSECURE YET?
boku wa niito
i am not akiramenai
i am matteiru

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It’s Thursday, and it’s the day after Christmas, but honestly, what’s the difference? Just another day where I’m forced to drag myself out of bed to work a pointless job that gives me nothing. Not a future, not hope, not even the basics like enough to get my own apartment or even start thinking about dating. They pay me just enough to exist and show up the next day, as if I should be grateful for the privilege.

And don’t get me started on my parents. They’re the ones who brought me into this nightmare world, unasked, and then have the audacity to blame me for being a failure. As if they’d have done any better if they were my age right now. “Just work harder,” they say. “Follow your dreams.” Oh, really? What dream? To keep working a dead-end job while inflation eats away at what little I have? Their advice is useless—just like them. They have no idea what it’s like to try and survive in this hellscape they dumped me into.

I can’t even stand to be around them. They make me miserable with their constant disappointment and passive-aggressive digs. So I sit in my room, avoiding the people who are supposed to care about me, while other families are spending the day together. Like Mr. Beast. I open YouTube, and there he is, giving away cars and cash with his family and friends around him, all smiles and warmth. Or Pan Piano, playing carols in a fancy dress, probably surrounded by loved ones who actually value her. Meanwhile, I’m alone. No friends, no partner, no family worth being around. Just me, in this house that feels like a prison.

And I still have to work. On Christmas. Because apparently, the world doesn’t care that it’s supposed to be a holiday. My job gives me nothing—not enough to move out, not enough to start my own life, not enough to feel human. How is anyone else dealing with this? Because I’m barely holding on.

>>23969408
>What exactly causes man to give up on life and rot in their room forever?
This is literally me. I chose this lifestyle because the world outside is not what I want. It's been forced upon me with too many ethnic people and poor governance and society. I wasn't like this before, though. I got my degree, worked for five years plus at a big company and saved a lot of money. I wasn't a parasite and I did pay into the system.

>>23969623
ah so you are a criminal why not just say so from the getgo.

>>23969604
>"i like trains"

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>>23969640
Why is it that these YouTubers, who pump out mindless, brain-rotting “entertainment,” rake in millions while I’m out here busting my ass in a warehouse for 10 hours a day 6 days a week? I’m working myself into the ground and still can’t afford to move out of my parents’ house. I’m a single virgin, stuck in this loop, and it feels like no matter what I do, I’m just pissing in the wind.

All I’m asking for is a cheap apartment—nothing fancy, just a small place to call my own—and somehow even that’s out of reach. My parents have the audacity to call me “spoiled” just for wanting basic independence, as if expecting to live on my own in my late 20s or early 30s is some kind of special privilege that I don’t deserve for some reason.

Meanwhile, I watch these whore YouTubers, TikTokers, and influencers living in mansions, driving luxury cars, and taking vacations every other week, all for filming themselves doing dumb challenges or just talking to a camera. People say, “Oh, just start your own channel then,” as if everyone can pull millions of subscribers out of thin air. It’s like this world rewards mindless clout-chasing while the rest of us grind away for crumbs.

What’s the point anymore? Hard work doesn’t pay off. The people telling me to “stick it out” are the same ones who’ve been living comfortable lives because they bought a house in the ’90s when it cost less than a used car. For us? Rent alone will bleed you dry. It feels like the game is rigged, and no matter what I do, I’ll never get ahead.

At this point, I’m seriously questioning why I even bother. Give me one reason why I shouldn’t quit going to my job and spend the rest of my miserable life in my room jerking off and watching anime. I fucking dare you:

>>23969456
can confirm
this.
100% TRUTH CONTAINED (GMO FREE)
/signed
20% of the WORKFORCE carry 100% of the LOAD, 80% are slackers. not going to carry these miscreants anylonger

>>23969408
Being smart enough to notice the system is retarded but not smart enough to exploit it.

It's the top of the Bell Curve for noticing.

>>23969643
>implying you have to be criminal to use your rights
absolutely shit-headed nigger goy cattle
KYS

>>23969408
I'd like to be a father without the hassle of having a wife, and that's virtually impossible, so I gave up.

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>>23969642
Pan Piano makes $300,000 a year. Three hundred thousand dollars. Just for playing some anime songs on a piano while wearing sexy cosplay that shows off her body. She gets to live a dream life, adored by millions, handed everything on a silver platter because she’s attractive and knows how to milk simps for attention. And here I am, working 12-hour shifts in a warehouse for $16 an hour.

I still live with my parents because rent is insane, and no one can live on $16 an hour. My parents don’t understand. They think it’s “good money” because they’re stuck in the 90s and have no clue how the world works now. They just complain about me still being at home but refuse to acknowledge how impossible it is to get ahead anymore.

My whole life has been a disaster. My parents didn’t raise me; they just fought each other all the time and treated me like some kind of inconvenient afterthought. They never let me go outside because of “stranger danger,” so I never made friends. Never had a childhood. Never even had a girlfriend. I’m 26 years old, and I’ve never even kissed a girl. I don’t know how to talk to people because I was never given the chance to grow.

Meanwhile, people like Pan Piano get to coast through life just for existing. She doesn’t know what it’s like to struggle. She doesn’t know what it’s like to wake up every day feeling like you’re on a treadmill to nowhere, working just to survive while never actually living. She’s out there getting praised and rewarded for flaunting her body while I’m invisible, grinding away at a job that doesn’t care about me, with no future, no hope, no nothing.

>>23969635
>Some people do work they like.
True believers or that crying wojack with the happy mask meme.

for me it was a lack of worth
the reward has to be worth the effort
I did the whole try thing and while it was fun, it was never worth the sheer amount of work

>>23969645
I dont know i just play video games for a living.

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Look around. You see more and more men who’ve completely checked out of reality, rotting away in front of their screens, “gooning” to women who will never know they exist. Women who don’t even entertain, they just exist in front of a camera—whether it’s some e-girl licking a mic or a so-called “musician” like Pan Piano pretending to play while showing off her body.

What happens when an entire generation of men is raised on this? When they’re constantly exposed to a level of “perfection” that no real woman can ever match? These men don’t develop normal relationships; they don’t even try. Why settle for a real woman, with flaws, problems, and imperfections, when they can chase an infinite supply of fantasy? And over time, this chase turns into nothing but addiction, disappointment, and resentment.

But it doesn’t stop there. The men who fall into this cycle also stop working. They see these “entertainers” making millions for doing nothing—posing, pretending, existing—and they look at their own lives, their own jobs, and think: Why even bother? Why grind for a mediocre paycheck when the people flaunting their wealth online are doing it with ease? They become disgusted with regular life, with normal pleasures. They don’t want an average car, an average home, an average woman. It’s either the extreme fantasy or nothing at all.

Just like the fox in the sour grapes fable, they tell themselves they don’t want what they can’t have. But instead of moving on, they sink further into bitterness. They stop striving, stop trying, stop living.

So what happens next? When a significant portion of men opt out of reality altogether? When they refuse to build families, work hard, or even engage with the world? Society doesn’t function without them. And yet, nobody seems to care.

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Okay, so I know this is going to sound insane, but hear me out. I want to ask Pan Piano out on a real date. Like, in real life. Not ironically. Not as a meme. An actual human-to-human date. I’ve been watching her videos for years now, and there’s just… something about her. It’s not just the outfits (though, let’s be honest, those are divine). It’s the way she plays. The emotion, the precision, the control. You can tell she really feels the music. And yeah, I know she never shows her face and there’s this whole aura of mystery around her, but that almost makes it better? Like, she’s not some attention-seeking TikTok thot, she’s composed. Elegant. She lets the music and the cosplay speak. I respect that.

And I’m not trying to be a simp here. I’m not some loser who just watches and cooms and cries himself to sleep. I genuinely think I could offer her something real. I play piano too. Not professionally, but I’m decent. I’ve been learning some of the same songs she plays. Sometimes I imagine us playing duets together, just vibing out to anime openings in a candlelit room, soft laughs between takes, maybe some sake on the side.

The thing is, I don’t know how to even begin. Like, what do I do? Do I message her? Leave a comment? Send her a video of me playing piano in a tux? What if she thinks it’s creepy? What if she just blocks me? Or what if… she doesn’t? What if there’s a chance, no matter how small, that she actually sees the effort and says, “Yeah, let’s get dinner”?

I know how this sounds. I do. But I’m tired of sitting here doing nothing while the one woman who might actually understand me is out there, playing piano in a maid outfit, alone. I’m ready to do something. I just don’t know what. Help me out here. Be real. No trolling. I’m being honest.

>>23969408
A Supernatural Desire to be a Monk but not realizing that is their calling.

>>23969415
Truth nuke.

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>be me, 27yo wagecuck engineer
>gf of 3 years dumps me for 40yo Porsche-owning crypto dad
>depression.exe fueled by Monster and gas-station burritos
>discover OnlyFans angel “Pan Piano” at 03:00
>convince myself it’s “supporting small business” like heroic economist
>each payday triggers six-month tribute streak
>tip 199 VIP, 499 voice memo, 9 999 Diamond Foot NFT bundle
>total reaches 14 000 dollars, basically bought her a used Civic
>cat stares at empty bowl drafting GoFundMe
>DM her “hey queen accidentally tipped entire net worth, refund?”
>inbox quieter than a Blockbuster parking lot
>OnlyFans support sends canned shrug: “no refunds lol”
>initiate chargeback blitz, call Visa, blame Japan
>hold music mocks me for 37 minutes
>meanwhile googling “what is theta” because plan B is options trading
>drafting small-claims threat letter in Comic Sans
>considering selling plasma and little bro’s RTX 4080 for cat kibble
>mfw spent 14k on a butter face rice nigger in 20 dollar Amazon cosplay
>what do?

>>23969408
>Why don't you want to be a tax cattle slave for rich jews and women, goy?

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I’m 26, still living at home because I can’t even afford rent on my slave wage job. My parents remind me every day how pathetic that is, like I don’t already wake up every morning with a pit in my stomach. “Work harder,” they say. “Get more hours.” As if I’m not already grinding 10-hour shifts like a dog just to barely afford gas and instant noodles. Like slaving away harder is suddenly going to magically spawn affordable housing or a livable wage. Delusional.

And then there’s Pan Piano. This woman has life handed to her on a velvet platter because she was born with tits and figured out how to weaponize them. That’s it. That’s literally it. She puts on a sexy Nezuko cosplay, half her chest hanging out, sits at a piano, barely moves her hands, and somehow that’s worth millions. No speaking, no charisma, no effort beyond squeezing into a costume and pressing a few keys.

She doesn’t even have to engage with people. Just films a cleavage shot with some anime tune playing and the simps line up to throw money at her like she’s a goddess. Meanwhile, I’m treated like human garbage by customers, my boss, and my own family—and what do I get in return? Less than nothing. A life that’s going nowhere. My only “luxury” is sleeping in a bedroom I haven’t redecorated since middle school.

Why does she get everything for doing nothing? Why is she celebrated for just existing while I’m told I’m not trying hard enough, not doing enough, not being enough?

I’m so bitter I can taste it. I don’t even hate her because she’s successful. I hate that she gets to coast while people like me are treated like burdens for simply surviving.

This world rewards surface-level bullshit and punishes effort unless you’re already pretty or connected. There’s no justice, no fairness. Just Pan Piano living in luxury for shaking her tits in cosplay while I rot under fluorescent lights for crumbs and get told “you just need to work harder.”

Fuck.

>>23969587
>you’re not a happy NEET if you have to defend yourself that way
I don't agree with their reasons, my reason is simpler (working is for poor people), but you don't need to be unhappy to try and defend what you think is the truth, retard. Besides, your own post can be interpreted as defensiveness, what personal failing could it be hiding, I wonder.

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>>23969456
>besides they actually don't want you there in the first place, if you happen to apply yourself. is like the same people who go hurr durr get a job are the same folks who are trying to stop you from getting one.
Holy shit this post speaks from my soul
>get jobs
>actually motivated to do shit
>get fucked in the ass because of it
14 hour shifts and no pay were my experiences across multiple jobs
in the end i was just the neger vom dienst and even got criticized multiple times for not doing multiple and physically impossible tasks at once
>"yeah anon, sweep the floor, what do you mean you can't change the tires while figuring out cold fusion while investing in the stock market with your mind? you're fucking useless!"
look man, if i'm supposed to wörk just to get spiritually raped by literal subhumans, i'd rather do another 10 years of hartz4

>>23969584
You won't do shit, go back in your corner.

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>>23969662
Alright /pol/, I need your advice. This isn’t a joke. This isn’t a troll post. This is real.

I want to ask out Pan Piano on a real-life, actual date. Not some parasocial fantasy nonsense. A real, face-to-face, hand-holding, food-sharing, fireworks-watching date.

Let me be clear: I am not delusional. I understand she is a high-tier, goddess-level pianist with an aura of untouchable mystery. I understand that thousands—no, millions—of men lust after her every time she drops a new video in a cosplay outfit so tight it could bend space-time. But here’s the thing: none of them have the courage to actually make a move.

I, however, am different. I have watched every video. I understand her piano technique. I recognize the subtle passion in her keystrokes, the precision of her wrist movement, the way she leans into emotional climaxes in each song. This is a woman of sophistication, culture, and refined taste. If I can just get one chance—one evening—to prove myself as a worthy suitor, I know she will see me as more than just another viewer.

The problem? I have no idea how to ask her out. This is where I need your help.

Do I:
1. Send her a heartfelt email praising her music and casually suggest meeting up? (Too needy?)
2. Make a viral video of me playing piano in cosplay as a grand romantic gesture? (Would that impress or creep her out?)
3. Super chat her during a livestream and propose a meeting in a smooth, charismatic way? (Is this even possible?)

I need a strategy that shows confidence but not desperation. That demonstrates class but not arrogance. That makes her curious enough to say, “Yes, I will meet this man.”

I am dead serious about this. I am ready to change my life for this. But I refuse to simp. I am not a paypig. I am a man with a vision.

What’s the best move here, /pol/? Give me real advice. I’m playing to win.

>>23969408
>Religions uphold monks as good examples of people who can live a quiet life with humble standards.
>NOOOO WHY ARE NEETS CONTENT IN LIVING A QUIET LIFE WITH WHAT SOCIETY DEEMS AS LOW STANDARDS?!

>>23969658
lmfao
it's extra funny because there do be these people who give family wealth away to whores on the internet
it's honestly hilarious to watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iluOmq1DYY
HAHAHAHAHA
I literally laugh every time

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>>23969665
I don’t know why I did it. I don’t know what possessed me to look up Pan Piano’s net worth, but I did. I wish I hadn’t. I wish I could unsee it. I was already miserable, but this? This broke something inside me.

She’s worth three million dollars. Three million. In just three years. All for dressing up in sexy cosplay and playing the piano. Meanwhile, I’ve spent my entire life working myself into the ground, 12-hour shifts, day in, day out, for what? Barely enough to survive. I live at home, rotting away in a room that feels more like a prison cell every day. No escape. No future. Just a slow, pathetic grind toward nothing.

And then there’s her—the girlfriend I thought I loved, the one who used to be different. She used to care. She used to be fun. But like every American woman, she hit 20 and let herself go. She got fat, got bitter, and turned into this ungrateful, soul-draining presence in my life. She resents me, but won’t leave. I resent her, but I don’t have the energy to do anything about it.

I don’t even go to work anymore. I didn’t quit. I just stopped showing up. My phone rings, but I don’t answer. Emails pile up, but I don’t read them. I don’t move. I don’t eat unless I have to. The world outside keeps spinning, but I feel like I’m already gone.

Life is just a cruel joke. Work hard? Doesn’t matter. Be a good person? Nobody cares. Meanwhile, some woman in a low-cut outfit presses a few piano keys and gets three million dollars. There is nothing fair about this world. I don’t even feel anger anymore. Just exhaustion.

I don’t want to be here. I don’t want any of this.

Women do it too they just sell nude pictures of themselves on the internet while doing it or if they're like Jabba they hang out on here

See, what's happening right now is we are in a decline.

Slowly, and gradually, your net worth isn't decided by your usefulness to society any more, the contributions you make. It's decided by completely silly and nonsensical shit. This has always been an element in society. High class prostitutes. Musicians. But before they were the outlier.

Now some of the most successful people in gen z, and even among younger millennials are retards on the internet with titties and a coochie. They contribute nothing to society, they are actually a drain on it beyond the tax dollars they pass on to the government. Which they are happy to take, and which everyone points and says they are contributing to society.

In reality they are the tick that is draining its lifeblood

why was this moved to /bant/?

>>23970049
too low quality for /pol/
lmao

>>23970049
Because jannies are pajeet street shitters.
Just like this Shitroom anon:
>>23969651
>>23969634
>>23969653
Sukdik you cant fool anyone.

>>23970062
It was a thread worth engaging.
I think it comes down to shit taste on part of the brown jannies.

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Wabadadubdub

>>23969663
I did your mom faggot nigger