>her race got exterminated by demons that love eating people>she doesn't even think twice before killing them after the fact, even if they're kids>this is somehow problematic for normalfagsfantasy truly reflects reality
Frieren is based anime for normal polcelsAnyone notice how the more autistic polcels are into weird moe anime and isekai garbage?
Notice how the Church is always evil in Anime, to be religious is to be a dog-eating child molester, you'd think that japs would like that sort of stuff
>>23971260>wants to genocide an entire race of high intelligence beings because they have a bigger nose while sub-animalizing them just to be extra cruel>gets surprised when they exterminate and eat you
>>23971263Show your flag rabbi
Marcille > Frieren
>>23971263ok steinberg
>>23971262Japs used to be pagan heathens
anime writing sucks and shows are boring
>>23971262But it's not in freiren, priests heal people and cure poison/disease, the priest member of their party was depicted as a good kind person
>>23971262a priest was one of the guys that killed the lord of the demons in Frieren
>>23971265>>23971266quintessentially plebian
>>23971262>the Church is always evilI kinda like how they depict the Church and priests in Frieren though...
>>23971261>Anyone notice how the more autistic polcels are into weird moe anime and isekai garbage?Fantasizing about dying and coming back in another world must seem strange to people that believe cutting your dick off and dosing yourself on hormones mystically transforms you into a woman.
i want frieren to look at my penis like this
frierenfags need their own containment board I'm so sick of your troonime
>>239712754chan is anime website faggot
>>23971263Here is an example of demons using human-words to trick their prey into letting down their guard.
>>23971275anime site, you're the tourist here faggot.
>>23971271meant for>>23971264
>>23971262(((Someone))) really doesn't want to let Japan have a choice in their spiritual beliefs.>crucify thousands of Japanese Christians>drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, two majority-Christian Japanese cities>proliferate their children's cartoons with anti-Church propaganda where Western-inspired fantasy religions are made up of moustache-twirlingly evil villains and psychosIt's getting to be a little blatant.
>>23971280To be fair to the japs though, christians are the main people besides jews working to bring niggers/jeets into homogeneous countries so I don't blame people who hate them
>>23971282If you look into the history of it, the issue was - as always- with the Jesuits. The Franciscans were there first and respected the Shogun, the Jesuits however... Their master is not Christ the King.
>>23971283Yeah but at a certain point trying to differentiate between good christians and bad christians becomes too much work for them and they decide it's safer to just say fuck all of them.
>>23971263Problem?
>>23971277
>>23971285Problem?
>>23971284Unfortunately so, too much effort to differentiate between followers of Christ and those who have adopted the heresies of the Pharasees. You should look into the history of Christianity in the Chinese states if you haven't. Huge fuckin holy war, millions dead.
>>23971260I loved the first series, but s2 is kinda boring, also seems pretty stupid in comparison
>>23971288I'm more worried about the history of it that i'm living through right now here in the United States, watching them import infinity niggers and being the biggest promoters of race cuckoldry by a lot besides jews, also being feminist simps who hate males
>>23971283>If you look into the history of it, the issue was - as always- with the Jesuits. The Franciscans were there first and respected the Shogun, the Jesuits however... Their master is not Christ the King.How can Americans be so ignorant? All Christianity is international. All the groups in South Korea and Japan shilling for Israel and niggers are Protestant in fact.
>>23971269>>23971270>>23971272Yeah I find Frieren diverging from the norm interesting, I'm just saying that there is a trend to set yourself apart from.
>>23971290I feel you. Every night I pray for a Bull to reform the church militant. I've seen so many churches and congragations which have been utterly corrupted by modern 'theology'. The neverending schisims between the various protestant churches don't help.>>23971291>All Christianity is international.What made you believe I thought otherwise? Nothing in my statement implied that. They problem we have is that anyone may call themselves a Christian and go on to act 'in the name of Christ', yet Christians no longer bother to police their own.
>>23971293I think white men have evolved to the point where religion doesn't serve any purpose. We don't need a gay religion to tell us not to lie and steal and hurt people. The way I see it all the positive things Europeans did was in spite of religion, not because of it.
>>23971263Jews need kindness and naiveté on part of the host to survive. Not the other way. Jews invert who the aggressor is, and pretend to be the victim. Their schemes only work if they at the same time express horror about these schemes, i.e. cry out in pain as they strike. Jews don't survive because they are great. They survive because no one else is as low as them, and therefore willing to be violent enough to solve the problem once and for all.
>>23971260Normalfags have made it their mission to wimpwash every "evil" race in fiction, be it Orcs in WoW or LoTR, Vampires, literal Demons (Hasbin Hotel) etc.Frieren actually has demons as what they are:things that act like humans when it serves their interests, but wouldn't blink twice before eating a child or a literal city, so basically jews, or Prince Andrew.
>>23971280>ChristianIt's Catholic. Protestants are a weapon. The Protestants always love(d) Jews. Then there's people like St. John Chrysostom who wrote homilies against the Jews. >>23971289It's called exposition.
>>23971260Her race got exterminated by its own inability to breed, her willingness to kill demons is by itself fine because the demons do a lot of bad, what's not fine is that this is then applied to people who do no wrong>Be aura>desire peace>Create a trinket that means that even if you lose you can be forced to be peaceable, the ultimate diplomatic gesture in the face of demons reputation>Literally no evidence she wanted to disable the wall, only to end the conflict>Kill urselfDemons are shown as intelligent creatures with a sense of morality that is abstract to humanity, thus peace is possible, instead frieren killed an ambassador seeking peace>But demons badThe correct resolution would have likely been >Lets leave each other alone and never interfere with each others lands, as this is mutually beneficial>But jews badYou're right, but what if jews collectively and honestly agreed to never kike anyone else ever for any reason, so long as they were allowed to live in and do whatever they want in israel forever?>Kill them anywaysNah
>>23971260Both are evil. Elves are just as demonlite. kill both
Who gives a shit about your pedophile chinese cartoons retard, grow up and go read a book
>>23971261Moe is a strictly neurodivergent genre.
>>23971299>You're right, but what if jews collectively and honestly agreed to never kike anyone else ever for any reason, so long as they were allowed to live in and do whatever they want in israel forever?You and I know this would never happen. Shut the fuck up, kike.
>>23971300Tolkien used them to symbolize unfallen Man
>>23971300The image you posted is a crusader for a fictional god.How dare you worship strange gods and claim to be christian you DEMON PRETENDER.I'll see you BURN IN THE FIRES.
>>23971260Troons are demonsDemons get triggered watching based Grandma Elf zoltraak demons.>confirmedBest kek was "KYS" and demon 41%s itself
>>23971304Historically they are spirits just like demons.That trick people.
>>527834472At least she never goes head-first into mimics on the off chance that there's something inside besides digestion.
>>23971303I didn't ask if you thought it would happen, niggerI presented it as an argument because that's in essence what would have happened in frieren had the racist elf not fucked everything up for everyone
>>23971299>words words wordsI notice that Aura was puppeteering all the dead soldiers that she'd killed, desecrating their rotting corpses and mocking the families of the deceased. Yep that's a self-beheading, NEXT
>>23971307LIKE YOU TRICK PEOPLE YOU VIDYA GOD WORSHIPPING SATANIC PRETENDER
>>23971262>Church is always evil in AnimeLiterally not true you fucking turkspawn.3/4 isekais have priests doing good deeds for people.
>>23971310It's established that their morality is abstract to human morality, why would that even be relevant at all? a true peace where demons and humans simply left each other alone would mean no more big gay war where countless people die, it might even mean trade, and all it requires is that demons follow law, something they have been shown as capable of doing
>>23971292also the hero not actually being the hero making it merit and not destiny
>>23971309>The demons could have subverted the humans with their talk of "peace" if the elf hadn't stepped inWow, what an argument. Fuck yourself, spawn of Melkor.
>>23971313>more demon noises attempting trickeryGet beheaded, idiot
>>23971303 (HH)That's the problem. Jews are subject to the laws of nature. There is no magic that will turn them from a parasite into free-living form. Many have to tried putting them to hard labor in the hopes that they'd redevelop their worker/warrior caste, but it never happens. The Aryan heathens seem to have devised the most "humane" practical solution for dealing with social parasites: make them outcasts, put them in the gutters where they must beg to survive at the mercy of everyone else. That is where they belong. But the Ghettos of Europe, and the Pale of Settlement, didn't hold. They broke out, and became dominant. If it were up to me, the mindset of "we need to contain them for their own good" would shift to "we need to destroy them for our own good". It's selfish, yes. But co-existence on this planet does not seem to be possible.
>>23971262Dude in this anime the church is good
>>23971315How would peace be a negative to humankind without it also including the removal of the barrier?>ree ree>But they wouldn't really mean it they'd just be manipulating themAnd? people use each other every single day, ending the conflict would mean more people live on both sides of the conflict, it could mean negotiation to protect humans from demon attacks in general>But without the same morals how could they everLaw, if demons can follow law, then peace is achievable
>>23971313They follow the law as long as it shields them only to subvert the host, just like you kikes.You cant coexist with people who think that killing unborn kids is ok, or human sacrefice from firstborn is ok.You are demon. Good demons are dead. Be a good demon than.
>>23971294I understand where you are philosophically and how you might reason to that point, the reasoning is flawed however because it rests upon some presumptions that don't check if you accept that there is ontological moral truth.>I think white men have evolved to the point where religion doesn't serve any purpose. Religion serves the purpose of satisfying our inherent spiritual needs - it underpins those inherent feelings which tell us Right from Wrong. Where the tenets of religion align with such feelings there we find Righteousness and are bound closer as a group. Religion is not necessary to a Moral instruction - but it does not follow that Religion is not necessary for any purpose. Quite to the contrary religion is absolutely necessary for the existence of a Moral society.>We don't need a gay religion to tell us not to lie and steal and hurt people. It is demonstrably true, in as much as child studies show that genetically white European children develop an inherent sense of fairness and behaviors which are in line with common law, that we do not need religion to 'tell' us what is right and wrong. But it does not follow therefore that we do not need religion. >The way I see it all the positive things Europeans did was in spite of religion, not because of it.European society, including in the pre-roman era, acheived its greatness because such societies carried the Mandate of Heaven. The Morals of society are shaped by Religion, and where that societies Morals align with individual Moral taste then greatness can be achieved. Attacking these foundations weakens the society and leaves the individual open to exploitation. This is why so much effort is focused on the destruction of Christianity in all of its more traditionally relevant forms.
>>23971319>How would peace be a negative to humankind without it also including the removal of the barrier?Demons eat people. They have no interest in stopping. People don't want to be eaten, therefore every last demon must be slain.
>>23971305A gay crusader at that. N'wah faggot lost his shit after his twink lover was slain.
>>23971317If they were merchants without the nepotism that comes with being kikes they'd manage just fine, their supremacist religion is really the death knell, with that we can't get along because they will always outcast themselves to enslave us, but (and as stated before they would never agree to this) if they only existed in israel and survived via trade, they could coexist with humanity>>23971320Their desire to subvert the law does not change that peace would save lives, peace does not have to come with immigration or removal of the barrier, peace by itself is valuable>>23971322If demons agreed not to come to human lands then they could not eat people unless they went to demon lands (and frankly thats their own fault), this means that peace would mean fewer humans are eaten. should it be upheld, and if it is not upheld then nothing was lost in attempting to form peace to begin with
>>23971261Zoomers are retarded, what did you expect. I never tought of living in Equestria or fucking RD. Visiting would be so awesome. But living there..no.
>>23971325>If demons agreedDemons lie in order to achieve their goal, which is "eat people". You just slay them, that's it. You don't listen to them, you don't talk to them, you don't let them pretend to build a rapport, you don't let them weave words to lower your guard, you just slay them.Demons are not people, they are monsters that are shaped like people, nothing more.
>>23971260This show is overrated, boring, generic, slop.
>>23971261Moe is for child rapists. It's strictly enjoyed by glowniggers and their drug addicted cousins paid to shitpost.
Naruto > Freiren
>>23971328This. The writer is shit. I can't believe how easy it is to engagement bait normies with "outrageous" shit.
>>23971274Is this a fucking child? What the fuck is wrong with you epstein maga people and your love of underdeveloped children?
>>23971327Your statement is untrue as demons are shown to have a different but real morality structure mostly based on submission to their elders>But they still don't think killing is badIf le demon lord came out tomorrow and said no more killing humans, every demon would obey that commandThis is what pisses me off about frieren, what they say about demons and what they show is completely different, they are shown to be fully competent sentient beings with a morality humanity fears and fails to understand, and aura, given her position within demon heirarchy and given what is shown about the demons, was unironically one of very few who could have brought about a legitimate, long term, no more eating humies peaceBut this is part of the writing of frieren, she's so old that she doesn't notice how things are changing and could change
>>23971295Based Frieren teaching children about those who prey on empathy.
>>23971325>their supremacist religion is really the death knellI agree with you. If they abandoned their religion, they'd cease being jews--and they'd just become a multi-ethnic/multi-racial nation of near-eastern merchants. So you've essentially exterminated jews in the same fashion. I think you've identified the fact that Judaism is not a religion, but a racial doctrine with a religious camouflage. And the biological material doesn't matter as much as the "choseness". Any people or race can pick up the Talmud, and given enough time, become a race of permanent parasites.
grown men watching cartoons aimed at 13 year olds.
>>23971333>what they say about demons and what they show is completely differentNo it's not though
>>23971333Word tricks don't work on me, get slaughtered demon.
>>23971308Yea don't mind me or take that post personally if you're a fan, just bouncing some random replies around from thread to thread and this one coincided to also somewhat match the topic. All I know about the show comes from a music vid where a musician guy goes yeyeeeyeaayayy and a cosplayer thot looks on.
>>23971337yeah, so?
>>23971333Frieren is old enough where she remembers demons trying this same trick in the past. She knows they are faking it, as part of their learned behavior to get humans to lower their guard.
>>23971260Okay I've never been into Anime so I don't know anything about this specifically, but politically, socially, culturally; it's a gay (((westoid))) literary trope that is [falsely] based in Christianity. And btw, in the bible it doesn't say that you can't get your get backs and not be forgiven. If you have a moment of emotional weakness Jesus understands. You're HUMAN. This trope, funnily enough, is pedaled by neolib and "righteous" rightoid writers and enjoyed by 100IQ retards, it essentially boils down to;>IF WE DO WHAT THEY DID TO US>THAN WE ARE NO BETTER THAN THEMSnooze fest, softy bullshit that will actually get yourself walked all over IRL. I highly recommend actually going a step further; if someone pushes you, punch them in the face. Not just for yourself, but for the next person they feel like they can get away with pushing. They'll think twice. This is just a minor example out of the infinite possibilities where this rears its head.As a reflection of our society, we've gone away from that, and the average normie (white) STILL SOMEHOW expects the police, the DA, and the justice system to, 1. even do anything, and 2. dole out appropriate punishment.>IF WE DO WHAT THEY DID TO US>THAN WE ARE NO BETTER THAN THEMWhen has this shit ever been the case? Open a history book and see the justice given out through war crimes, post war tribunals, political witch hunts, racial unrest, religious unrest, I could sit here all day and list things. We are suffering from our own (((Whiteness))) insulation. If you get what I mean. This is just how it shows up in our media, a reflection of our society.
>>23971336your post comes off as written by AI, Yes, but even if jews didn't convert or reform, the conditions I presented are conditions that would make it at least possible that they might coexist with us>>23971338Then why didn't the adopted demon eat their dad?Instead they killed people to help their human elder, and they desired to be praised for this act>Maybe they could eat more humans this wayDemons are stronger than humans, and in no way would they require or benefit from a need to hide themselves and their way from human society, meaning the emotions were genuine
>>23971344>they killed people to help
>>23971342Frierens opinions are painted by a few awful experiences and word choices that are less than ideal, take >>23971295Who the fuck wouldn't say whatever they thought would prevent someone from killing them?Demons are just the only group autistically logical enough to admit this when accepting death
>>23971345Was that action undertaken out of a desire to harm their adopted parent, because that would need to be the case for frierens views to be correct
>>23971333The demon's hold it is a fundamental moral truth that it is Good with a captial fuckin G to eat humans. Just because someone tells them to stop, and they choose to do so, doesn't make them any less ontologically evil. But you know this, because you're a Pharisee, and the enemy of all the world.
>>23971317They had 2000 years to save their souls. The ones who still do leave the tribe. The ones who remain choose to align with evil and its consequences.
>>23971260her race didn't get exterminated, they are just rare and dying out because elves don't like relationships
>>23971348See>>23971344your statement is incorrect, while they predate on humans they have their own moral compass that works differently to humans and can absolutely be reasoned with
>>23971317There is another less violent solution.
Kill demons. Behead demons. Roundhouse kick a demon into the concrete. Slam dunk a demon into the trashcan. Crucify filthy demons. Defecate in demon's food. Launch demons into the Sun. Stir fry demons in a wok. Toss demons into active volcanoes. Urinate on demons. Judo throw demons into a wood chipper. Twist demon's heads off. Report demons to the hunter's guild. Karate chop demons in half. Curb stomp child-shaped demons. Trap demons in quicksand. Crush demons in the trash compactor. Liquefy deons in a vat of acid. EAT demons. Dissect demons. Exterminate demons in the gas chamber. Stomp demon skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate demons in the oven. Lobotomize demons. Grind demon children in the garbage disposal. Drown demons in their own blood. Vaporize demons with basic offensive magic. Kick old demons down the stairs. Feed demons to crocodiles. Slice demons with an axe.
>>23971260>her race got exterminated by demonsThat's their own fault. Doesn't matter if elves have zero sex drive because they live 4000 years, at some point they needed to just nut up and start fucking for the survival of their species. The fact that Frieren didn't immediately rape that male Elf, the first she'd seen in a millennium, is proof her race of hedonists deserved extinction.
>>23971261I'm not into isekai tho
>>23971344Why? Because I used "--"? I used it correctly. AI tends to use "—", which is not correct, at least according to my English teacher. >Yes, but even if jews didn't convert or reform, the conditions I presented are conditions that would make it at least possible that they might coexist with usWell you can't have it both ways. Judaism is the "supremacist religion that commands them to enslave us", is it not? I'm not saying that they need to be converted or reformed. I'm saying Judaism needs to be banned. I think that the best policy is that each man finds salvation in whatever way suits him best. Maybe this is my naive idealism coming through--fine.
>>23971347The demon you're talking about had already killed their child and was trying to make up for it by stealing someone else's baby to give them, then it threatened to kill that baby lmfao
>>23971356Just accept that AI has claimed "--" and stop using it. I used to use it a bunch in my writing and I stopped after being accused of using AI like 4 times.
>>23971351>they have their own moral compass Which tells them, axiomatically, that is Good to kill and eat humans. Such actions are Righteous for demons. And they are incapable of understanding why humans don't believe the same.>that works differently to humans Which means that human moral reasoning fundamentally cannot work on demons. Further, any reasoning which comes from within the demon framework must accept the demon's axioms - that it is Good to kill and eat humans.>and can absolutely be reasoned withYou do not reason with Evil, you destroy it. Because evil cannot and will not draw the conclusions which your True reason holds. But you knew this as well, because you are a Pharisee.
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>>23971260I see more people talking about how normalfags think it's problematic than I see normalfags talking about how it's problematic.
>>23971360Unfathomably based. They should give it another season.
>>23971352How will blonde twink bussy help with this?
>>23971346>Who the fuck wouldn't say whatever they thought would prevent someone from killing them?Someone with integrity.
>>23971292>Yeah I find Frieren diverging from the norm interestingIt's not really diverging, it's clearly inspired by Dragon Quest, a game series where the catholic church stand-in is unequivocally good, and their deity directly intervenes to help her followers pretty much every game by electing a hero.
>>23971262>Notice how the Church is always evil in AnimeWho do you think brought the refugees in?
>>23971349 (checked)I'm inclined to agree. But I recognize that I don't have "the patience of the saints". My patience has limits. >>23971346>Who the fuck wouldn't say whatever they thought would prevent someone from killing them?Demon morals are pretty straightforward, and laid out explicitly in the show. "Might makes right". Thoroughgoing naturalism and undiluted will to power. This is the exact same morality found in Judaism (jews call it "optimism"). This is opposed to the Christian saints who refused to "say what they needed" to in order to survive. Giordano Bruno was given multiple chances to save himself, by renouncing his beliefs, and refused each time. Probably the same sort of autism on his part, so it cuts both ways.
>>23971260Satanist/LGBTQ retards/Demons=Jews. hates it when frieren exterminate their kind. Is that easy bro. Everything that is evil is good to them, inversion bs.
>>23971364There are no atheists in a foxhole anon>>23971359Manga spoiler: the demon king genuinely desires peace with humankind and this is one of the main reasons for the war>>23971357It was a complicated moral dilemma for the demon, and the demon had not killed their child, I even double checked just now in case I remembered wrong
>>23971369>It was a complicated moral dilemma for the demonSLAUGHTEREVERYDEMON
>>23971358Fair enough. Fucking machine elves ruined it for everyone.
>>23971346>Who the fuck wouldn't mimic another species for the purpose consuming that speciesNot jews.
>>23971369>the demon king genuinely desires peace with humankind and this is one of the main reasons for the warThis is not a refutation of my points, nor does the 'desire' of their King change the conclusion that the Demons must be exterminated.
>>23971370>I am the reason that lady does not have a child, how do I fix this and make her happy>I will steal this child and give it to her>But that will make this man angry>I will kill him and then the people closest to me will be happyNone of this is the reasoning of an evil being, it is the reasoning of a being with a different and inhuman understanding of morality>>23971372>Mfw I'd be more ok with jews being exterminated than the demons of frierenJews choose to be the way they are, demons in human society just do their best
>>23971374>words words wordsThat's nice now GET SLAUGHTERED, DEMON FILTH
>>23971373It is, it means I am explicitly correct in that aura was genuinely seeking peace, not to undermine humanities defenses in any way, and that such a peace would have definitely lead to a better life for both humans and demons, with far fewer casualties
>>23971369>There are no atheists in a foxhole anonPlenty of believers in a grave though.
>>23971377>wooshThe point is that when you're faced with death the vast majority of us will scream and panic and do anything to avoid it, she's verbalizing the exact same reason any panicked child being killed would say the same word
>Demons use human words to trick their victims>"actually let me weave multiple paragraphs about how really it's okay to kill a kid sometimes, because demons are people too and they don't know no better and you have to give us, I mean them, reparations NOW"
>>23971260The demons are inspired on jews btw
>>23971325Any peace would only be a temporary truce for them to bolster their forces and ultimately inflict more damage than they otherwise would. *At least with the current demon lore in Freiren, subject to change
>>23971260YOU CAN'T KILL NIGGER DEMONS!!!RACIST WHYTE ELF BITCH!!!!
>>23971379She didn't kill a kid, she abducted the kid to give to parents who lost a child>It's okNot what I'm saying at all, this shows a form of morality, just not what we understand as morality>>23971381The demon king desires peace and believes war is the only way to achieve understanding long term so this is canonically incorrect, aura and her trinket were the ultimate "weapon" when it comes to gaining understanding from the other sideThe demons then having no desire to continue or escalate the war would have no reason to break a treaty, I imagine the humans might eventually, but irrespective a peace would definitely lead to lives saved and improved
>>23971376You advanced the 'genuineness' of seeking peace as an argument that the Demons should not be destroyed. That argument fails as discussed above, whether the seeking for peace is 'genuine' or not is immaterial to whether the Demons should be destroyed.
>>23971360kekhow she was at that level of /pol/ being a random nipponese woman is something I will never understand
>>23971383>She didn't kill a kidShe did kill a kid, the mother hysterically wept for her eaten child before the man "adopted" the dangerous little beast, who then repaid his kindness by killing him.You are a demon, get slaughtered.
>>23971378>The point is that when you're faced with death the vast majority of us will scream and panic and do anything to avoid it, she's verbalizing the exact same reason any panicked child being killed would say the same wordMy point is that she's not a panicked child. She's a subversive and belligerent entity making a calculated attempt to manipulate someone she provoked into action.
>>23971383>if I kill you when you have a cough it's just my morality protecting many more people. You just don't understand itNice excuse. Now perish filth
>>23971384If the demons and humans can successfully coexist, which they clearly both can and desire to, then of course they should not be destroyed, and the initial statement was to auraaura did nothing wrong, she was there to create understanding and peace, if she had been left to her mission countless humans would be saved, and there might come an understanding between humans and demons, this is something that will take much longer because of frierens actions
>>23971389She killed dozens and dozens of men then puppeteered their corpses to kill their neighbors and friends, amassing an army with the intent of unleashing it against a city full of people.You are a demon, get slaughtered.
>>23971300Based
>>23971260frieren is my wife
>>23971376>I am explicitly correct in that aura was genuinely seeking peaceI thought that she sent in her three servants to take down the barrier. Maybe that's not explicitly stated in the anime and/or later subverted in the manga, which would be interesting, and par for the course, since this does seem to like to subvert every expectation. Or maybe I'm misremember the anime, missed some subtle hint? The idea the demon king (and his generals) is a good one, kinds of reminds me of the "king of the jews" and his disciples. I'm going to catch up on the manga before I engage anymore on that front. Very interesting.
>>23971387In this instance what exactly is the difference? she didn't want to die, no one wants to die>>23971388the issue here is that demons can coexist with each other, they don't need to be killed, they need to be understood, and vice versa, humans need to be understood by demons, once this occurs peace is possible
>>23971383>The demon king desired peace>That's why he genocided the elves and also inflicted untold horrors on the humansIf every demon started out so different than humans in morality that children think it's okay to kill people randomly, then it's a self defeating position; every time a new generation happens their attempt to learn would cause new murders, and the human side would ask "what do we get out of this? Trade? We can settle those lands ourselves. Peace? We can have peace among ourselves once they're gone"
>>23971394>demons can coexist with each otherIncorrect>they don't need to be killedIncorrect>they need to be understoodFrieren understands them perfectly, that's why she slays them where they stand.You are a demon, get slaughtered.
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>>23971260>this is somehow problematic for normalfagsanon it is literally considered best anime ever by all anime fans and every single anime critic and is top in myanimelist
>>23971260>the macaco in his favela analayzing friren equating it to the real world where his people kill white peoplethis is too funny. go back to chimpchan or whereever you subhumans post.
>>23971389It simply does not follow that because Evil can coexist with Good that Evil should not be destroyed. There can be no understanding between diametrically opposed axioms, because the conclusions driven by those axioms will be different. Moreover, Evil is an existential threat to good. Nothing you have advanced leads to a differing conclusion or suggests that the Demons adopt a new axiom.
>>23971284Simple test to determine what is a True Christian and the Saul/Paul the Pharisee aka the 13th false apostle test. Their answer will give them away every time. Unsurprisingly, the vast majority of christians and churches are heretics and corrupt which surpises absolutely no one.Blaming the Jesuits is meant to divert you from realizing how old the problem of heresy and corruption actually is, dating back to the very founding of the churches.Naturally I ignore all such religious posts unless they can answer a few of my very simple questions that they hate so very very much. For the pagans/polytheism angle ask them about ancestral shamanism and new theology. For Jews its the old testament vs their beliefs/origin of actual Jews and Israelite differences. Muslims are easiest just point out their holy prophet is a pedo self confessed demon worshipper who was entirely instigated by his first wife who had him by the balls.
>>23971390there was no implication that she intended to use her escort to lay siege to a city, and humans kill demons, human necromancers exist as well, aura did nothing wrong>>23971393It's not definitively stated yet but the implication is that with auras trinket, whether she won or lost understanding would be able to be gained between forces, which is ultimately what the demon king desires>>23971395Demons are stated to have evolved from monsters, what's stopping them from continuing towards sentience? they desire peace and understanding, and it's shown to be possible, no they should not be exterminated and I'll say it again, Aura did nothing wrongTheir morality clearly works for demon society, the issue is specifically with interacting with other societies
>>23971394>In this instance what exactly is the difference?Well Anon it's generally assumed that a child is not a malevolent entity, and children tend not to think in the paradigm of "what can I say to get away with the evils I am inflicting upon the world?"
>>23971260Not being a weak bitch that let's yourself get killed because you're the wrong ethnicity is indeed what faggots fear.
>>23971402>there was no implication that she intended to use her escort to lay siege to a city>"This army massing just beyond your defenses? Completely harmless, don't be paranoid"You are a demon, get slaughtered.
>>23971400Evil is perspective, at no point are demons shown to be driven specifically by this vague idea called "evil", just very different ideas to humankind
>evil like, isn't even real maaaaanYou are a demon, get slaughtered.
>>23971397Exactly, he first sought internal change to call out the increasingly Heretical of the Church being corrupted by the remaining Pharisees. Only when stymied by those parasites entrenched in the ecclesiarchy did he go public.
>elves don't fuck>get slaughtered and replaced by empathy-less demon foreigners>barely any leftAre elves in this a stand in for Caucasians?
>>527842686>>23971405>A demon ambassador should just move free of escort in wartime when attempting to communicate with humans who consider you something like an animal>>23971407>Saying mother because you dont want to die but not being too emotional to understand what you're doing is pure evil
>>23971406The fact that you personally believe Evil is a perspective is why you are a Pharisee - and are here defending demons. Fuckin lol, the discussion of the nature of good and evil and the acts that men should take insnt political according to these trannyjannies.
>debate on morality, ethics, theology, religion and politics>the most interesting thread in the catalog>Epstein appointed mod moves it to /bant/
>>23971421A being driven by evil would be one that explicitely desires to cause someone harm, demons seem driven by a desire for gain of some kind and are unencumbered by morality, these are not the same thing>But they eat peopleI eat steaks, in this example demons need to actually understand people as people for this to be an evil act, otherwise>That crocodile mauled someoneMeans that the crocodile is evil tooEvil requires understanding, demons desire understanding and peace with the humans, this is antithetical to evil
>>23971429Yep, sounds about right. Can't give normies the opportunity to learn how to think. Sometimes I miss effortposting.
>>23971433A crocodile that mauls someone gets put down.
>>23971262All anime after 2007 is controlled by degenerate kikes and they controlled most of it before that The most common anime storyline is an allegory of a degenerate dark hearted faggoty punk character with character flaws like being a whore monger (Saturn stand in) overthrowing a god like entity that is depicted as malicious Which is exactly why I switched from shonen to slice of life anime at night before bed
>>23971441Absolutely, but we're not going to start saying it burns in hell are we?I think that's a great way to describe demons in frieren actually, if we're beings inbetween animal and god, demons are beings inbetween animal and manAnd again, aura did nothing wrong
>>23971433Demons are established as both rational and moral actors, and are therefore capable of Evil. Their moral axioms, and the actions they take as a result, are what make them Evil. The crocodile is not a moral actor. You however, are presumably a moral actor and must make the decision about whether eating steaks is evil. Somme people have decided that it is.
>>23971461Rational and moral actors, but not human morality, they cannot understand it, and without that understanding evil cannot exist
Only the touristfags that love hellofafagbosd and hasbeen hotel complain.....
>>23971467>they're not evil, they just don't understand!This old canard... you Pharisees never cease to amuse."When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart."Evil does not require understanding to exist. And Good cannot make peace with Evil - it must be destroyed.
>>23971483Then destroy all the crocodiles anon
>>23971487We already covered why Crocodiles aren't evil. You haven't forgotten, and I understand you're not interested in repentance, just admit you're a Pharisee.
>>23971490You declared them different when they're basically the sameThe demons in frieren actively seek understanding and peace, and the only reason they don't have it is because they can't understand human moralityThat's not evil, that's a failure to understand
directionless social tension thread award>>23971481hasbeen hotel good
>>23971493>The demons in frieren actively seek understanding and peaceYou are a demon, get slaughtered.
>>23971493>they're basically the sameExcept for, as discussed, their capacity as moral actors. But go ahead and continue to pilpul your way around those facts inconvenient to your spiritual corruption.
>>23971502Deus Vulit.
>>23971502It's the canon reason for the war, have a manga spoiler, the demon king believes that understanding can only happen through war>>23971504This is why I think describing them as inbetween animal and man is fitting, they're not evil but they do not understand morality, but they're capable of it, frieren will or at least should end on that note, a peace between the humans and the demons as they finally come to understand each other
>>23971512>the demon king believes that understanding can only happen through warWhich is why he, and all demons, had to die.You are a demon, get slaughtered.
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>>23971626man those tunnel threads were so wacky, this is like an onion articleand the memes were good tooso edgy*sits at desk, eats yummy cereal*it's not worth paying attention to, you're only allowed to once all this shit is irreversiblenone of what people talk about is actually effective/actionable, if it were it would be disrupted to hell immedaitely (like pizzagate was)the reality is too much to grapple with, and if everyone just sees it as an onion article then there's literally nothing which could happen which could make people do anything, which is partly the pointshoving it in your face is actually a form of damage controlit do be entertaining thojust advance your own position in the world & try to gain some security, that's all
>>23971495>set in hell>no racist>no nazis>no rape>no pedophiles>just filled with fags and troons because God is a meanie who won't let them be degenerates In a cringe sort of way, I guess....
>>23971275Fuck off tourist zoomerfaggot, this is an anime website. >>23971307Christcuckery went so bad it is unreal
>>23971672Don't blame all christians for the actions of a shilling discordIt's been revealed that the christian shilling is organized on discord a few times but the threads get deleted quickly and people don't care much because christianity is a part of the current zeitgeist
Sex with Frieren is not negotiable.
>>23971710she lacks reproductive impulses, anon.
Sex with a demon yandere who loves you at the expense of everyone who comes remotely near you, no she doesn't care if you say no
>>23971720L'appétit vient en mangeant.
Frieren my beloved
>>23971415Were the demon incursions and the elves' collapsing fertility and lack of response to the invasion the result of a dwarvish plot? The answer will be the same.
Also>believing demonslol, lmao even
