Been at a fortune 500 company for 4 years. No problems until today. I'm a dev btw. Get random email from my manager today about a performance meeting. No mention of my performance prior to this aside from a comment about me not always being in the office as much and working from home.Thing is I've been crushing it at work and been getting nothing but praise from clients and managers. Just last week the manager from the PIP meeting was telling me I'm being moved to another team because I completed so much work on the current one and they need my assistance with another dev team. Now he's saying bs out his ass about performance. And unironically while I'm on the call with him and hr today about this PIP bullshit another manager pinged me to tell me several clients were telling him how much they love working with meIt feels like the goals in the PIP are set up to make me fail. They basically want me working across 3 teams all at once now along with some online classes because I "lack skills" even though I've taken their skill assessment tests and scored proficient on them. I honestly hate the place so I'm not worried and I've got some investments I can liquidate to help me out with bills until I figure something out or get another job. I'm just so confused like what in the fuck caused this? Not only have I done what's been asked of me but I complete more work than others and that's easy to prove. They've got the metrics so what the fuck. Now I gotta look for another tech job in this bs industry.
Why were you on a PIP to begin with?Sounds like you were underperforming before this current stretch
>>62325457I just got placed on it today. No ones made a negative comment on my performance aside from me not always being in the office but I would still complete all the work including additional tasks without being asked. Feels targeted
They're trying to get rid of you for some reason. If I had to guess they're going to replace you with a team of Indians for a quarter of the cost
Sorry I misread you are on a PIP now. Did they provide any evidence of you lacking skills and poor performance? I would make sure you get some more details. Normally if you're on PIP they're doing it in preparation to let you go
>>62325483and that comment about being in office was from last week and I instantly starting going in more to meet the attendance requirement
>>62325495Yeah if you were just working from home with impunity nothing pisses off a middle manager useless eater more. They think you think you're hot shit and wanna see you either begging to keep your job or going somewhere else
>>62325489Yeah, that's what I figured I'm just struggling to understand why but I guess the answer to that may not be as important.I asked them a ton of questions about it and they kept beating around the bush or giving me bs answers. I.e. we migrated from azure to github and I asked what the new pipeline was called for a certain deployment and my manager tells me that shows I'm not an expert. Just utter bs. The more I talk about it the more I'm starting to think that yeah they just want to replace me with another Indian like >>62325486said. They do that a lot here. Otherwise it just doesn't make sense to me. He made multiple comments about my lack of knowledge even though I've trained multiple people and he himself uses me as support periodically across different teams when theres a fuck up from someone else. I guess I've answered my own question
>>62325535Just ask your manager for help getting off the PIP. If they agree then just meet the requirements and stay, if they don't have time or they won't help then they've already decided to can your ass and it's better to just start looking for a job now than get the scarlet letter of underperformance on your record.
>>62325535Honestly fuck that job. I'd start looking for a new job asap. They're trying to get you to beg, study and do more work for no personal gain. Never go and beyond if it doesn't come with increased pay
>>62325535sorry bro, you answered your own questionmid-level & senior roles get harder to get by the month. im sure you read hackernews, just be ready to accept a large paycut.
>>62325409>They basically want me working across 3 teams all at once now along with some online classes because I "lack skills"You are being set up to fail.If you want to be a pain in the ass, go to a doctor and say you have burnout/depression/PTSD/whatever then say you need to take disability leave. The leave will freeze your PIP essentially (for a little bit).
>>62325483>but I would still complete all the work including additional tasks without being askedRetard.
>>62325593UK is such a backwards country
>>62325409PIP means you're pretty much fired. Take the severance and start applying.
>>62325409When you're on a PIP it's time to DIPIf the company were not legally required to do them you would already be fired
Also, don't get caught up with trying to "prove them wrong". Your manager will put you under a microscope and raise subjective points. The best "fuck you" is to extend the process for as long as possible to job search while demonstrating no emotional reaction.
They want to pay some jeets 5 bucks an hour
Get an attorney and file complaints about this to your state's labor board and OSHA. It won't stop you being fired but you can get a big settlement on your way out.Don't worry about the cost of an attorney they'll take their cut from your settlement if they're good and you have a proper case. Most will at least review your situation at no up front cost and tell you if it's something they're interested in or not.Also start documenting all contact you have with your supervisor in a work diary. Seriously. That's evidence for court later, and protects you from more HR shenanigans (and gives you ammo against them). Yes, your inane scribbles count as evidence in court.Good luck.t. former HRfag
PIP = paid interviewing period
>>62325780I was about to ask. You guys gots da real jobz.
>>62325409they probably found out you post on 4chanyes, this is sufficient reason to fire someone with security access
>>62325409>Law 1: Never Outshine the Master>Everyone has insecurities. When you show yourself in the world and display your talents, you naturally stir up all kinds of resentment, envy, and other manifestations of insecurityHad this happen to me, more than once, the most recent one was my last job which was the most meaningless tier job ive had so far but it had that prestigious status so the games were amplified (i wasnt in the right headspace to clock the maneuvers early enough), lies were invented then i got canned. Listen big guy your whole situation sounds like this, you dont bow down and you are a rock solid unit, in the russian mob they'd tat your knees for not being a bitch and getting on all fours, in the corporate world they want a mf to be a hoe to a degree because guess what the higher ups are hoes to a degree therefore instead of matching the mirror the hoes attack it. This shit will play out the same way over and over again untill you learn the mechanism, i have talents in a few areas myself and excell in them as compared to my peers, guess what same shit ina different envirenoment every single time. If you want to get it Robert Greene first then Carl Jung and youll get the gist. Btw congratulations on being a proper rock solid man, dont let em take away your advantageous position as a fuck you ima martyr myself here no no extend that shit as far out as possible in terms of extracting financial benefits for yourself but do start working on your exit plan and contingency plans should alterations in the process arise today. When they demand you to give away something thats actually valuable to you like your dignity and there is no way to stay vague and lead them on then you make your exit move. I know for a fact you already know all of this but please do not underestimate the power of something uplifting actually uplifting you and the effect of letting things into your perception which will affect you in ways you can not 100% foresee. Bona fortuna
>>62325409Anon do not let em off the hook easy it will be you letting them punk you and that shit will eat your whole fucking self for a loooooooong time. Fuck what i wrote, listen to this super based mf >>62325749and fucking do it. Theese subhumans are trying to take food off your table do not let them get away with it for cheap DONT thats how theese fucks have the gull to do it becauae most mfs will go the ath of least resistamce. Your earned money is fucking yours and everybody is trying to deny you your won poker chips which you won fair and square. Please please please do not let a faggot in a suit rob you of your shit dont let them demoralize you as it will seem so at first. No matter hoe much pushback you can muster up do it and push the fuck back itll make you love woth yourself that much better and will benefit your future oppertunities (you'll be able to look at yoirself in the mirror and be proud is what i mean). Playing the 007 game in the background while giving them the fassade they want to see without any signal on your true intentions is less tiring than getting fucked and accepting the fucking because you were convinced to do so by them weaponizing your conciemce and culture and morality or worse your weaks/blindspots against you, been there itll eat you up for months on end if not fucking years. That being said, bona fortuna OP>>62325749Anon i eill ask for OP, could you by any chance provide more informational content and possibly uplifting signaling for OP. What you already did is the most based righteous shit i have seen in a fucking while. Shit you got my ass uplifted and ive been in a downward spiral for 3 weeks now. I think i speak for everybody when i say this, thank you and thank youf being this based and this much of a proper role model
>>62325495>>62325409OP you really need to call their bluff. Tell them you disagree with the PIP, you know your worth and want your salary to double or you're leaving. The stupid bitch HR whore that came up with this stupid plan will have it blow up in her stupid face.
>>62325667>>62325680>>62325780^ This. OP you're donezo. Start interviewing/preparing now.
>>62325409glad that I've worked for myself since 1993 and have no idea what a PIP is.
>>62326110I only know because I lurk hereI started working for myself in 1999 and can't imagine putting up with half the shit people talk about here. I think back in our day we called it "getting written up," which was just your ten minute warning before getting fired.
>>62325409yes, they’re absolutely going to fire you, they’re just getting their legal ducks in a row first. Start preparing all your evidence now that the firing is unjustified (emails from customers & management praising you, KPIs you’re meeting / exceeding) and give it to a lawyer once you’re fired. Don’t sign the severance package that says you can’t sue, all the severance package does is saves them from paying you more in unemployment.
>>62325535The answer isn’t important. A lot of managers used to be retarded (bell curve) but now nearly all are retarded.It could be some female except 5 levels above you who has decided to axe the entire department or wants all white males fired. You just don’t know.
