Meta thread. Let's discuss what the fuck has been happening to and within the culture of EGL.Some questions and thoughts that have been on my mind below, reply if you want or bring up your own ideas to discuss. -Why is ita mostly dying as an insult? Are we not using it enough, or is it past it's time?-Brand whore as a concept nearly disappearing in the west-gooning and its effects on our psychology, how it has stopped many of us from posting publicly-Ero is back, and becoming popular, but why? Male infiltration, or are we finally reclaiming ero as a community? -is Lolita even a community anymore?-is the jirai culture online our fault?-Why do you think EGL as a whole has moved away from cgl? -is the time of the Lolita influencer over?
I hope that Ita doesn't die off as a term, and we need to use it more. Part of the appeal of Lolita for me is actually looking good in a style and if we don't gatekeep the hell out of it it will be watered down by TikTok tourists in cheap Amazon replicas with no blouse or pettiI think the Jirai culture is basically like old Lolita culture, sortof in the same way that 2020s Twitter became early 2010s Tumblr with the toxic woke shit while Tumblr actually chilled out a lot imo, the normies start to get influenced by the autists eventually but they're always a little behind. Like how a lot of 4chan slang is now Zoomer brainrot shit, trends are set by autists and normies eventually copy it. Jirai is cheaper and more fast fashion so it's easier to get into for normies, so you get more normies invading and trying to be Different, and they're discovering the joys of gatekeeping that we have forgotten
I'm just some dude who's been observing EGL through conventions and this board for the past decade without participating in it, so feel free to discard my opinions.>Brand whore as a concept nearly disappearing in the westThis will somewhat apply to several of the other questions asked in the OP, but basically with zoomers onward there's been a generational shift in fandoms in general to where being a poser is now seen as the cool thing to do, and fandoms have become primarily for peacocking on social media instead of for community. "Brand whoring" as you put it, ero, it's all done for views on Insta and TikTok now. For example, regarding ero you really see it in the goth space (not EGL but just G) now where the modern goth is just wearing skimpy shit but making sure it's black. The music, occult stuff and other things goths did 10+ years ago aren't in the picture.>is the jirai culture online our fault?It would be cool if someone ITT would explain this to me, this is something I haven't been exposed to very much. As I understood it, the western concept of jirai kei is basically e-girls that borrow aesthetic elements from EGL.>Why do you think EGL as a whole has moved away from cgl?Discord>is the time of the Lolita influencer over?Right now is probably the best time to be an influencer in general, but you basically need to maximize selling out to posers to blow up.
>>10972307>2020s Twitter became early 2010s Tumblr with the toxic woke shitThis was true for a while with early 2020's Twitter, but most woke people have by now fucked off to Bluesky which is why you barely see any rainbow avatars on Twitter right now despite it being pride month. Depending on how you influence your account's algorithm, late 2020's Twitter will read like /pol/ or /aco/ or both.
