Second one of mine that's broken, and so I look it up and they don't even use forged steel blades.These are garbage.
>>20435479You get what you pay for.
>>20435479>partial tang knifenot even once, a fixed blade knife that isn't full tang isn't a knife.
The Swiss aren't exactly known for warfare or cookery.
>>20435479>not even full tangeveryone was shilling these so hard because much cheap but I knew that's not how the game is played and bought a bunch of wüsthof instead
>>20435479The fibrox line is a base-level of acceptable. They're also good for beginners who are learning to maintain a knife in good condition (sharp and free of corrosion or filth). They're not much better than most industrial knife lines except for generally being more comfortable for many.
>>20435508>The fibrox line is a base-level of acceptable.No it's not. It's fucking garbage.
>>20435513They're not garbage. They're decent for cheap knives. Of course you can get better, but generally that will mean 1/3 higher price, just for riveted handles all other things being relatively equal.
Shoulda gotten a Kiwi knife
>>20435479It's not that they're shitty, just you get what you pay for. A full tang knife costs more, whereas a half or partial tang knife costs less.It's also dependent on how you look after your knives. Putting these types of knives in a dishwasher for instance, will often result in moisture becoming trapped within the handle and rusting the blade, making it brittle and an obvious weak-point.For the price-point, Victorinox knives are good quality.
They were never meant to be premium knives, but some dumbass youtubers announced they were the best knife evar and now they're charging like $50 for a $15 knife because that's what people will pay
>>20435529>They're decent for cheap knives.No they're not, they're trash.
>>20435479>serrated knivesonly good for pruning trees and slicing bread>b-but stea-you're not running a bistro, sharpen your knives lazy
>>20435552Seems pretty common, good performance/price option goes viral and the price skyrockets.
>>20435479That's a cheap steak knife.Were you trying to use a cheap steak knife as if it was an actually kitchen knife?
I've had my fibrox for 3 years and have used it every day and it's in perfect condition.
>>20435479"full tang" means the blade is one continuous metal piece. Start there.
>>20435693Not even maneven my 4 for $6 Walmart knives are full tang
>>20435567no they're not, they're very acceptable knives. I have one 9 or 10 incher from the late 90's early 00's. I have more expensive, newer knives but I always default to that bad boy because it works so damn well.
I have a victorinox santoku I'm not crazy about either. Same handle like in the OP and the fluting is pretty useless. Wish it had more weight too and that it could hold a honed edge for longer than 30 seconds
>>20435505They were the greatest pikemen ever to set foot on a battlefield. Granted, noone's fought with pikes for quite a while now.
>>20435501>>20435699Japanese hidden tangs are more than strong enough, and are easily replaced when they wear down after 50 years of use.>>2043550640 dorrah aint cheap, and the QC is shit on them.>>20435508Only thing they have going for them is a distal taper, and an actual grind on them. They flats make a V from tip to spine rather than just a small portion near the edge being ground.>>20435540This. Kiwi are shit, but good shit that isn't over priced. Great knives to practice sharpening because they are butter soft.
I use the 8" Fibrox chef knife & rosewood paring knife at work and they do just fine.t. prep cook
>>20436326>t. Subway sandwich artisan
I got the Shibazi cleaver and it works great
>>20436331aksually subways don't have knives bigger than a paring knifeall the vegetables come precut or go through a slicer
>>20436331Kitchens use bang for the buck knives sometimes referred to as "workhorses". They just werk and you see more expensive Shun knives if you wanna show off. Fibrox line is plenty good enough. You see the white handle Dexter Russel knives a lot, too
>>20435479Victorinox used to be pretty good but I suspect that they sold out to China and that made them shit.
>>20436299the steel and thinness of Kiwi knives is worse than fibrox, or classic, whatever the sweedes are calling them now. The more traditional handles on the kiwi are nice, but they compare to classic Chicago Cutlery, which really aren't great if found for the same price as most industrial line knives. You talk about taper and other stuff to try to sound smart, but then recommend an even skinnier, more bendy blade chef knife. Nonsense.
>>20436641swiss, sweedes, whatever. I know. Don't post when drunk, kids. Still sober enough to know the differences between cheap knives without blowing smoke.
>>20436299>Japanese hidden tangsDon't care about silly gook workarounds. No full tang, no purchase. It's not fucking hard to make a slightly bigger piece of metal, there's literally zero excuse other than pinching pennies.
>>20435479>washes plastic in dishwasher over and over until it becomes brittle and breaks>why is much cheap knife not as good as an expensive one waaaaaah
>>20436674devil's advocate here, folding knives
>>20436782I specified fixed blade in my first post. Yeah, folding are a different story, but that's not kitchen knives. That said I also prefer my folders to at least have locking.
You call that a knife, mate?
>>20435687So does it have a replacement, or are we stuck in a purgatory of expensive good knives, cheap shit knives and nothing in between?
>buy a 20$ fancy looking japanese paring knife (wasn't looking for one but it was on discount)>cuts worse than my 3$ walmart knife that hasn't been sharpened in years>can see visible imperfections on the edge>the tip is fucking rounded, either it was ground this retardedly and broke off in my food and I didnt notice God I hate Japan so much its unreal
>>20437041>20$ fancy>20$>fancy
>>20437044>fancy LOOKINGLrn2read niggaI dont think its unreasonable to expect a 20 buck knife to not be total shit
>>20437050>I dont think its unreasonable to expect a 20 buck knife to not be total shitJust shipping the knife with 100% if it was complete free would be more expensive than 20$.Come the fuck on.
What's with apll the cats? Are you types homosexuals or need faggy phone apps or both?
OP's pic aint a victorinox
>>20435875i'll give you a 10 incher from the 90's
>>20436991The Mercer Millennia/Renaissance are generally better value than Victorinox.For a bit more there's the MAC 7.25", if you don't mind the slightly smaller blade.There might also be some decent local or DTC shops, Misen is shit though.
>>20436674The fuck are you cutting that you need all of your knives to be full tang?
>>20437274shut the fuck up, you homo
>>20435697I've had one for going-on NINE years and it's also in perfect condition. I suspect that people who break knives are retards who throw temper tantrums when onions make them cry.
>>20437080They're likely the same types that not only need phone apps but need tons of cats and are homosexuals.
>>20436299I need cheap and HARD knives
>>20436674Stupid know nothing take. Don't grug smash with your knife and it's fine. I bet I could put over 100lbs of weight on my deba's hanfmdle and it would be fine. >>20436641You can't read, and you're a knifelet. I know more about knives than you, guaranteed.
>>20437466The secret? Make your own from 1084 steel and an angle grinder.
>>20436332>>20437466Unironically if you're going to get a $50 knife I think the best bang for your buck is buying on aliexpress from one of the big chinese kitchen knife companies with a brand reputation to defend in their domestic market$50 gets you 3 layer laminated stainless steel and HRC of 58-60Just do a little research and look for reviews on youtube or r*ddit to see if the company is reputable, and make sure you're buying from the official store on aliexpress
>>20437321NTA but investing only in full tang knives are the way to go tbdesu
>>20437466Uni :3
>>20435479i broke a set of six of those over a couple months
>>20437711No it's not. My hidden tang Japanese knives are far superior to everything my full tang euro knives can do in everything except cutting things that can chip harder steel.
go to a thrift store and get the first set of decent looking knives that look like thisjesus fucking christ I hate zoomers
>>20437475you mean 52100 surely?
>>20438363Nice, you gonna prune your trees with that little handsaw?
>>20439057There are a lot of good options if you have a little skill with a torch. 1084 HT is near idiot proof if you have a magnet handy.
