Overpriced Nebb
What nebbiolo would you buy for $20?>actually, GOOD nebbiolo starts at...Ok but I'm poor and I still like affordable nebbiolo and shall continue to drink it, congrats on being rich though
>>21838088Vajra's Nebb is good value
>>21838094Yeah I've had that and liked it. What do you think of Vallana?
>>21838105They don't sell them near me so I've never tried
>>21825826>>21826160>>21826370>>21826418>>21826960Alright, today's the day. Will respond with results.
>>21838298Bergweiler is pretty decent. They're good value (even among Mosel) but never something I'd drink on a special night.
>>21838298original shitposter here, looking forward to either being vindicated or being called a tremendous prancing homo la la man, either way it will be entertaining
>>21838319it's just a day with the lads, sounds fitting
>>21838298>he posted his total wine haul
>>21838298>>21838319>>21838329OK im back still grilling but the riesling wins this one, sorry lad>>21838489Yes
>>21838544What are you having it with?
>>21838549Ranchero carne asada/chicken with fajitas guacamole and red salsa
>>21838544Sovlful
>>21838558I probably would have gone lambrusco for that
Aving some Couchois Burg. Pretty tasty for the price.
>>21838663Looks like it's got some years under its belt
>>21838669Think it's the lighting. It's a 2023.Irl the colour is classic burg.
>>21838088Gattinara
Drinking Barbara d'Alba Superiore
>>21838088>$20 nebbColombera + Garella or Ioppamost cheap nebb is absolute trash unless it's alto piemonte/gattinara/landwineyour options are tenfold if you spend even 5-10 more
>>21838878Really depends on where you live, in flyover states you're looking at $35-40 for basic drinkable nebbiolo, in normal places you can get something good for $25
Do not care for Nebbiolo
what is the purpose of a double wax seal?
>>21839683>t. Collects Cru Beaujolais
>>21839909If collect you mean buy and drink immediately then yes I do.
>>21839945we get it, you like farts in your glass.
>>21839989Filtered
>>21840073i like my baroli unfiltered
2021 Paul Lato Matinee Pinot Noir
Muga Rioja
>>21840406is it good?
Thoughts on diaspora nebb?
>>21840407It's okay I guess.Not a big Rioja person in the first place but its a good traditional representation
>>21840421I've had some good Nebb from Australia but most of it is ho hum.
>>21840421Yes and then the vineyard was sold to some boomer that ripped out the vines and planted more generic vanilla cab
>>21840963>californiait was inevitable, it's where wine culture goes to die
drinking white rioja
Had a Mount Eden Chardonnay with dinner tonight. Very good despite being the dreaded 2020 fire harvest year. Tomorrow I’ve got a 2019 Giacosa Nebbiolo Valmaggiore in the wine fridge to have with my cheesesteak.
>>21842217let us know how that pairs with the cheesesteak, ya?
Alright /ck/ I have a lady coming over and I want to give her some sips but she’s unironically autistic and what’s the closest thing I can give her to fruit punch but wine?
>>21842424moscato d'asti
Favourite Rioja? Pic related is my cheap go to, never let me down
>>21842424Go to the store, buy a bottle of sparkling apple-cherry juice blendClaim it's wine with a straight face
Alright /ck/ I have nobody coming over and I want to give myself some sips but I’m unironically autistic what’s the closest thing I can drink to burgundy but cheap?
>>21842538
>>21842703I had that once and of all the LdHs I've had (cubillo, tondonia blanco, gravonia blanco, tondonia rosado, bosconia) I found it the most disappointing, could have been the year. Just seemed thin and nothing but acid. Still haven't had the gravonia or the red tondonia. I gather the red tondonia gran reserva is the "real" LdH.
>>21842538cheap(ish), and goodtheir blanco is even cheaper, and also a very solid full-bodied white. good value for money producer
>>21842806I will always associate muga blanco with MILFs because there was a hot MILF I was trying to take home at a bar once because I heard she was having a falling out with her husband and she ordered a muga blanco and I tried to talk wine with her and she was having none of it and that was an utter failure
>>21842801>I gather the red tondonia gran reserva is the "real" LdH.Too pricey
>>21842806Hey I had this, this week >>21840406
>>21842801The Reserva Tondonia is considered the benchmark for the style and price, 50-60 bucks or sobut they really demand some age to start showing fruit, otherwise they're super tight and acidic. 2010 shouldn't be too hard to find and is drinking incredibly right now. They're also often the same price as current vintage (if the shop doesn't just hike prices whenever they want) due to inflation.
Maranges Pinot tonight
>>21843511having some who from willamette, good stuff
>>21842824Older women are the wine drinkers that I believe are most likely to know nothing about wine.
>>21843599wrong, it's carymus drinkers.
>>21843558The best region in all of America.
>>21844620for pinot, maybe.
>>21844627Yes the greatest grape
AS I LIKE TO CALL IT KINO NOIR
rutherford merlot 2019>>21845454after nebbiolo, maybe.
>>21845752>after nebbioloNo.
Why are california wine fans like this?
i got too aggressive nosing my wine and dunked my nostrils into it i had to use a napkin to dry them and then i drank the glass it tasted alright
>>21819426>Dom Dugois Arbois Vin Jaune '17Was very vin jaune-y. Only had a glass of a vin jaune once ~two years ago but I'd say it held up well to the expectations from my memory. And at the price? Good stuff. Salty nutty fino>Dom Carlines Cotes du Jura Poulsard '23Reminded me of a burgundy pinot. Which yeah thin skinned grape in a colder climate not terribly surprising. Acidity, a good amount of mushroom taste, bright fruit, very light body yet still having tannic grip.>Michel Tissot Cotes du Jura Savagnin '23This I found to be the most "generic". Still a good wine just not an overly unique specimen imo. Tasted like a bit of vanilla and maybe even a bit of ammonia? Idk mostly just sour as all hell
>>21846078Oh yeah and the ice wine was breddy gud but I'd prefer Royal Tokaji's Late Harvest at like half the priceSipping an Argyle Willamette Pinot cause you fuckers just meme'd me into it and it's meh. Only a $20ish bottle but even still there's a million other bottles I could get for $20 that I'd preferOn another note I tried an orange wine made from riesling which was actually breddy good (union sacre out of CA) Also like 3 months ago I had a ramato (skin contact pinot gris) out of abruzzo and it stood out as one of the more interesting wines I've had
>>21839909Do people still hate on Beaujolais? Is this the 90s?
>>21845771We get it, you’re scared of tannins
>>21846311Are you saying this because you should feel bad about not jumping on the latest trend, or because that was good harvest years for Beaujolais or something?
>>21846078>>21846083Based enjoyer.Willamette Pinot is good but never great imo. It's just good for American wine. Cause California is mostly trash (for me).
>>21846722Yeah if california didn't exist as a cautionary example of how NOT to make pinot noir, no one would care about oregon
>>21846898TRVKE[spoiler]is washington any better?[/spoiler]
>>21846974Washington is like Sonoma-tier pretentiousness with north fork of Long Island tier wine
>>21846898How not to make anything desu Their Chardonnay is criminal
>>21847022I think they make pretty good zinfandel thoughbeit. Also their champagne knockoffs can be alright.
>>21847031I’ve had some decent natty wines out of socal. They also do deranged shit down there like cofermenting riesling with carignan and other such godless abominations that are kind of fun from an unhinged autism standpoint
>>21847043I only had one natty wine from california and it was branded "native" and the label was some anglo settlers, the wine as decent but the humor kind of rubbed me the wrong way so I just get my natty wine from poortugal and former eastern bloc nations
>>21847022>>21847031And their fruit bomb or overly sweet bdx blends
got some stank from languedoc
>>21846898ahh cmon santa rita hills makes some good pinot noir
Sancerre is... le back?
>>21847569Gross. >>21847312It's called soul.
>>21848385Is that they’re calling Brett these days?
Having some Czech producer with some blue slime on the label
Cremant de Jura
>>21849455du*Banger
>>21849779omelette du fromage
Fleurie >>21849779>>21849455Haven't seen any Jura around me. But want to try
I can't enjoy red wine because I feel like I drank a cup of gasoline afterwards. I hardly sleep and I can feel my heartbeat in my skull. A pity, I like red wine.
>>21849804>Local shop got a couple Jura reds>They're fifty fucking dollarsI can get a Fixin or a Crozes-Hermitage for that price that I know will be amazing, I'm not dropping that much on a mediocre Poulsard
>>21849871Yeah I whiffed on my last Savignin
>>21849839Stop drinking mags of Bdx.
>>21849871jura has the same problem that beajolais has. it was, at one point, surprisingly good wine for the price. then memesters and influensters happened and prices overshot what the wines are worth paying for, but everyone just pretends to like what the algorithm tells them to like
>>21850052I like Jura but don’t like Beaujolais
So I went and bought J. Lassalle Preference and I think I understand the champagne hype. A lot of apple, some bread, hint of floral, bit of minerality. Acidity was mouth watering but not bracing (I’ve had a lot of lemon juice whites lately). Mouthfeel was almost creamy due to the carbonation. I poured it back and forth from a flute to a regular glass and I think it tasted better from the flute. I don’t think it was confirmation bias placebo because I was expecting to enjoy the regular glass more; I think it is because the flute concentrated the aroma more. Also I expected to enjoy it more at warmer temperatures (since I lean warmer for most whites) but at 55 or so it became way too round, 48 was much nicer. So I kneel to the flute, I kneel to the recommended serving temperature. I don’t think I’m going to become a champagne-head. It was good, and I’m sure if I dropped more money it could be better, but at those prices I’m sticking with burgundy
how'd you get into wine? all i really like are cab savs, syrahs, madeira, and some grigio, mostly for cooking. i can't really discern differences but I usually only buy in the 10-20 buck range anyway, except for the madeira
>>21850165I understand your point but I lol'd at this imagining some zoomer thinking champagne is a new fad that started with tiktok (zoomers think everything popular is because of tiktok)
>>21850169cali zinfandels and aussie shiraz with meats. when I had my first job I wanted to eat steak every night and drink red wine. eventually outgrew the carnism but I still like zins sometimes. I'm like 75% white wines now. red got boring. probably in part because I eat less red meat.
>>21850170Where was that implied? Obviously champagne has been popular forever with a big boom in the 1800s and was even a power house in the medieval
>>21850165Also it was cool that it was 60% pinot meunier since that’s the unique champagne grape and I felt that aided in its character
>>21850179it's /ck/, we had a thread recently where people were arguing over whether french food was overhyped or overrated
>>21850198Fair enough I guess I used the word hype. But not in the trendy sense but rather I was referring to the enthusiasm displayed by its cult following (which is a large population at that)
>>21850169Had a mosel kabinett. Instantly unlocked something in me.
>>21850052>but everyone just pretends to like what the algorithm tells them to likeWell I actually like beaujo, fuck you.
>>21850258I do too, just had a bottle last week that I enjoyed, at $20. but things have gotten completely stupid. imagine discussing which beaujolais is best for under $50. I know inflation and blah blah blah but not even inflation can justify that. not yet at least.
>>21850268Just don't get Foillard, the other 3 or Burgaud. Any Cru Beaujo round me is still sub 35.
>>21850169parents would give us a little wine with dinner, had a nebbiolo for the first time and was just blown away by how different it looked smelled and tasted from every other wine I had before it.
mandatory
>>21850434weird, I remember making that image but it's not coming up in the archives, so it seems like I never posted it, did you hack me?
oh, the file hash is different, how did that happen?
Pinot Nero tonight
>>21850434>low quality product bad>higher quality proudct gooduh ya.
what to pair with beef BEERguignon?
>>21850512the wine you put in the pot>but I used cheap wineso buy something better of the same style
>>21850518i didn't use wine, i used beer instead
2023 Clesi Nero d’Avola Gemeny Vineyard
>>21850701Holy kino
>>21850434based ive had that exact nouveau (and it’s the only one I’ve ever had (it was alright))
>>218504584chan/cloudflare does lossless compression on images if possible, so the checksum becomes different on poorly compressed PNGsDownload both of these and notice how the file sizes are different:https://i.4cdn.org/ck/1768794888388328.pnghttps://i.4cdn.org/ck/1768794888388328.png?nigger=niggerThe query string inhibits the lossless compression. This is not the case for picrel because it's already maximally compressed with oxipng, so the file size and (therefore) checksum remains the same due to no room for improvement
>>21850734Around here, the "good" nouveaus sell out in less than a day so all that's left is the boof
