>Talks mad shit>Calls everyone pussies for not going to die against the angels>Nowhere to be found when the angels attack.
I wanna lick her chocolate feet.
>>143251721We saw where she was, she was safely watching it unfold on tv from a high tech security protected tower.
Nah but she gotta point about Carmilla. Literally the only reason Carmilla actually cared about the possibility of war is because she couldn't sit back and avoid the crossfire
>>143251721>draw a loli>call it a 30 year old black woman
What a nasty harlot,literally aHarley Quinn ripoff,Jesus Christ catching a ride!
>>143251721It's called gaslighting and letting your enemies fight so they die instead of you.
>>143252008She's not a loli retard, the average demons in Hazbin Hotel are around 7 foot and up so she's short in comparison
>>143251721I think Hazbin tried to balance too much. The V's are introduced but nothing really happens with them. They feel like a season two problem.
>>143252465Angel Dust is another character I think not done good. His arc of being "redeemed" in the eyes of heaven is done by Sir Pentious. His whole character is having your cake and eating it too. He's being used as a prostitute making porn but in real life his character is straight up used and sold for sex appeal.
>>143251983>The only reason why you care about not starting a war is because you might die in the war.
>>143252207It didn't work though since most of the Crome lords didn't bother to show up to the fight. Alastor doesn't even count he's been gone for years anyways.
>>143252705Yes. When the show tries to portray her as having some kind of moral high ground via showing she's a loving mom, it doesn't really work because her daughters are still ultimately her own self interest, which does humanize her to degree but she's not on any moral high ground because there are probably tons of other people who have lost their parents/kids to the weapons she sells so her heel-face turn when "we're fighting for LOVE now" makes no fucking sense.In other words, Velvette did nothing wrong.
>>143252764It's different with other demons that kill each other just because it's Tuesday.If a war starts with Angels, the shit will hit the fan, especially since it's clear the stronger angels are vastly superior to any demon.
>>143252764Doesn’t help when you remember her and her loving daughters all got sent to hell together, so they clearly were up to some evil shit even when they were alive.
>>143252465They unironically are. Viv has said that the Vees will be the predominant villain in S2, along with the "hidden in plain sight" villainess.
>>143252824They were probably doing the same thing they were doing in Hell: arms dealing.
>>143252764>>143252792It's in the lyrics of the song from Velvette>Why are you afraid of war?>That's what guns you sell are forVery self aware that yes people or demons are dying from the weapon she sells. But it reminds me of a movie "Lord of War" played by Nicholas Cage as an arms dealer and you do see him be neutral and people straight up telling him he's an indirect murderer.
I am no longer racist.
>>143252221Velvette is about 7 feet tall, so she's not even that short in the setting.You can use Valentino as a measuring stick to see Velvette's taller than 6 and a half foot tall Charlie.She's only short while on the table in Respectless(when she steps off the table, she goes from shorter than Rosie's upper body to only a head shorter than Carmilla)
>>143251721SEXOOOOOOOO
>>143255435Do you have the part where she goes "wooo" it's so dorky I love it.
>>143255339Yeah I guess you kinda lose perspective especially considering there's a god damn dinosaur in the room.
>>143251721shes having sex with me
>>143255435God damn it I dont want to be this much of a simp for such an awful character cus I feel like one of those weird fangirls who want to fuck the joker but god damn she is so hot its not even funny. Im racist as fuck irl but I would 100% stop if I had a chance with a woman like her.
>>143251721>>143255435Why do any of you pretend to be attracted to this cunt? The designs of the characters in this show are just awful in general. How can you even pretend to be aroused by hip sway when she has no fucking hips? This bitch and 90% of the bitches in this show are just ugly sticks - and not even the good kind of sticks, they're just an eyesore.
>>143255678shit taste, seek help nigga.
>>143255785fag
>>143255810>>143255820
>>143255810Youre shit taste you probably simp to people like pokimane or taylor swift.
>>143255844>unintelligible underage or ESL babble>maybe both, which explains the shit taste
>>143255785If you want an aneurysm, check out Adventure Time and Amphibia for what people lust for.
>>143255867>unintelligible underage or ESL babble>maybe both, which explains the shit tasteThanks for letting you know youre black and cant understand basic english.
>>143251721>too busy getting spitroasted by Valentino and Vox to fight the angelswhat a character
>>143255906>Types like an ESL>"youre black and cant understand basic english"Stupid beaner, sandnigger or pajeet. Go back to jerking off to your shitskin neon eyesore waifu with the body proportions of a little boy instead of trying and failing to form basic sentences. >>143255820>Trying to call anyone else a fag when you're unironically lusting over an ugly, badly designed hag in a show full of ugly, badly designed hags - and her body also looks more male than femalelol, lmao. Just admit you're a troon.
>>143256033Lmao white boy is a fragile snowflake as per usual.
>>143252465I feel like the Vees aren't that threatening. The final song has a line like "maybe we'll be atop the heap!" meaning, they already aren't even the strongest overlords. Plus, there's some obvious power level stuff that already kind of puts them in a lower bracket: Vox is arguably the strongest of them, but even he was scared of Alistair, who was overpowered by Adam, who was overpowered by Lucifer and Charlie.Maybe they'll turn it around, but right now I don't see the Vees as a credible threat. Lilith and Lute are the big league villains, aside from Sera or other as-yet unseen Heaven forces like Michael or God.
>>143256107their only real threat is how good they are at manipulating people.
>>143256058>the tranny starts projectingOh nonononono..
>>143256179Good job posting a picture of your ugly white face.
>>143256179>>143256182Just fuck already
>>143256182Thanks, it gets more inter-racial pussy sat on it than you will in your lifetime you dirty troon.
>>143256107Hazbin Hotel isn't an action show, the way people primarily get their way is through deception and manipulation. A master manipulator is far more dangerous than "powerful" fighter.
>>143256215post pics
>>143256229Except ultimately none of that actually worked and they ended up having to slug it out in a big action scene where all that really mattered was fighting skill.
>>143256385And they got their asses kicked until Adam fucked up and broke the deal which allowed Lucifer to intervene.
>>143252764I don't think the point is that Carmilla is trying to keep a moral high ground. The point is if Hell goes to war, all bets are off. And her daughters could end up dying on a vague possibility of stopping the Exterminations. But by then what's the point? >But if anyone knew, then all of Hell would rise to war>And who's to say who'd survive the fray?>I might lose the ones that I was killing for>So I... I'll be your keeper>Do whatever it takes, I'll make the mistakes>I'll keep you safe and keep this secretIt's all well and good if sinners die so long as her daughters aren't among them. Which is why Vaggie argues against that logic in ep7>Vaggie: Well, then why? Why wouldn't you use what you know to fight?>Carmilla: To avoid the very problem you and your little friends are facing right now. I will not invite destruction into my house, on my people.>Vaggie: You think we asked for this? All Charlie has ever done is try to make things better to help her people who, news flash, include your people too.Yes Carmilla is being selfish but Carmilla knows that and doesn't care so long as her daughters get to live
>>143255506Le Generic Evil Grin,this gimmick is cancer and doesn't make the character look anymore interesting.In fact,it makes you look like a tryhard way too influence by Tumblr,their Emo culture and buys too much stuff at Hot Topic,also terrible use of neon
>>143256385>>143256447The fight was stupid The extermination happens once a year, which apparently is fine. Charlie hotel is spared because that's the deal with Lucifer. Adams wants to move up the extermination because he's bored. Then on top of that out of spite he targets the hotel, which again gains him nothing and has jo actual purpose other than killing that bitch that made Adam mad. So Lucifer kills Adam and again only because of Charlie. Small note, but why is Adam in charge again? He's the first kan and that's enough to lead heaven angels? His son technically died before him.
>>143256580Show wise, Adam was the first human soul in heaven and Adam was only in charge of exterminations, in terms of authority he was at the near bottom of the totem pole.
>>143256580>Adams wants to move up the extermination because he's boredAdam moved up the Exterminations out of anger that an exorcist was killed in the previous one. Lute wanted to wipe out of Hell but Adam told her not to overreact since that would tip off that something was wrong. Which didn't matter because Velvette ended up finding the body and firmly establishing to everyone that angels are not invincible like they thought>He's the first kan and that's enough to lead heaven angels?Sera says that Adam presented the idea to her. Which she signed off on because, for her, this is about protecting Heaven's borders and ensuring it would be impossible for Hell to ever rise up to war. Although for Adam it was obviously an act of spite against people he didn't like.
>>143256840>White
>>143256840b-based..
>>143256655>Lute wanted to wipe out of Hell but Adam told her not to overreact since that would tip off that something was wrong.It's going to be interesting seeing Lute unleashed next season
>>143256623I really hope they don't go into hierarchy of angels it's fuck with my 'Tism.
>>143256850Mixed race. Mutts are just a better lay because they usually have family issues.
>>143257010>White
>>143256623>Adam was only in charge of exterminations, in terms of authority he was at the near bottom of the totem pole.He was the Commander in Chief of HeavenHe's below the Seraphim, but he's not low on the totem pole in general
>>143257059>delusional tranny's brain has been so thoroughly nuked by the fact he will never get any sweet latina pussy and his operation was for nothing that he's resorted to repeating himself with no point
>>143256840>he actually delivereddoes it jiggle, tho?
>>143251721Sexo
>>143257491For once. I agreed senpai-kun...
>>143256840What's his name? He looks cute
>>143256489spaces go after commas
Why are Hazbin threads so slow?
>>143261138Honeymoon period is over
>>143255339I don't think Western storyboarders or the animators give a fuck about consistent heights nowadays.
>>143251721>sabre rattling agitator slinks off when the fighting startsYeah that's pretty accurate.
>>143252465Several things about S1 suffer from the fact it's likely this was also a test run for approval from Amazon.Even for Viv's writing, there's an indication that stuff had to be trimmed to fit this syndication and not just the Vees, but basically Vaggie's (and Niffty's) lack of a character and instead being more of a plot device/scape goat to get information conveyed is further proof of this honestly.Despite how scuffed it is, it does manage to lay a good groundwork for what you could predict to be the main driving points going forward.>S2: Vee centric, confirmed outright, MIGHT set up details on Lilith due to Lute pushing for her to get off her ass and deal with that shit since it's a bigger threat now that Lucifer might have a more active hand in it.>S3: Potentially Heaven's (or just Lute's if there's some internal conflict going on in Heaven due to Sir Pentious basically being more fuel to the fire that Hell has been mistreated this entire time when redemption was always possible.) revenge.>S4: Alastor most likely trying to make his moves now that he's had time to get stronger or potentially circumvent his deal, potentially inspired by Angel Dust breaking free from Valentino, because let's face it, Valentino's soul deal with Angel is the most obvious thing keeping Angel tied down in hell still with how he's progressing in terms of redemption.You could probably swap around Alastor and Heaven's return, but Alastor definitely is a contender for who would help cap off the show.Personally, Valentino has huge death flags, Velvette apparently being the 'backbone' of the Vees might betray Vox if he was forced to turn over a new leaf since his shit with Alastor is more personally driven than actually some grand standing malice, Vox very likely could be set on a new path but depends on where the show wants to go with them.I don't think I would have been able to set up good speculation fuel like this honestly, the show did what it could.
>>143261933I heard a rumor that 12 episodes were requested but they were only greenlit for 8. So a lot of shit had to be crammed together.
>>143261995Wouldn't be surprised if this was true, there's just unacceptable writing that not even the show being trimmed would remedy, but there's scenes or episodes that entirely feel surprisingly hollow despite the fact that knowing Viv and how she handled Helluva Boss, you would doubt she'd let be that shorthanded if she could handle it.Angel Dust and Alastor as a whole are surprisingly restrained in terms of content given, Viv didn't try to blow the 8 episodes on stroking Angel Dust's dick or Alastor's rise to power again, it's pretty fairly mixed in with the main plot and what else is going on in the episodes.
>>143262050I've never seen HB. I've only heard that it's writing is far more juvenile and caught up in gay romance than HH.But for the time crunch thing there's stuff where I think about it and it seems like certain elements are so unimportant. I really like the idea that Charlie wants to help people but she doesn't know how. That's a genuinely fine idea because it means she has a good heart but she needs wisdom and experience to grow. But on the flip side, when put in the context of a brewing war between Heaven and Hell, spending a whole episode on Charlie fucking around with trust falls and hand clap games feels so unimportant. I revisit ep 2 and 3 the least just because who gives a fuck about Sir Pentious dicking around? The mystery of the dead angel, the Overlords figuring out what to do with this monumental event, Alastor trying to twist this to his benefit are all far, far more important. And that's the criticism I have with this show. The Hazbin Hotel is the least important element in Hazbin Hotel. I think this show might have needed another draft or at least S1 should've focused on the hotel. Although if we focused on the Hotel then we lose the most entertaining bits of the show so fuck me I guess.
>>143262102It's not entirely bad to have some mundanity going on at the hotel compared to the greater plot, however the hotel is supremely a wasted opportunity and I don't even know if it's a result of a shift in plans because now the hotel got completely revamped after the S1 finale and so we're going to have a brand new look to what is suppose to be the main crew's home turf so soon after settling into it.The only real alternatives I'd have in mind is to just not destroy it as badly as they did, or to focus on it more so it doesn't feel like the hotel is just an after thought like how people feel the assassination gig shit in Helluva Boss is sidelined pretty badly.This is probably an aspect more time to let the setting fester might have helped with though, so it could just be another result of the low episode count fucking this up, but I'm not so sure with HOW the hotel gets treated.
>>143251721Is it bad that i actually want her, despite she is a bad person?
>>143251923She was criticizing other Overlords for being cowards, then didn't show up to the battle when it happened. #Bitch indeed.
>>143263222Physical attraction rarely plays nice with your morals and it's easy to fall for someone you know it's no good. Why do you think my dad took 17 years to get back from the 7/11?
>>143261713
>>143263278My wife!
>>143261138No new content for either of Viv's shows. "Soon" my ASS.
>>143256840That is a man
>>143255339>>143252221this cross my mind but if the sinners and main cast are pretty damn tall how small is the helluvaboss cast compared to them since loona is basically normalish human Hight
>>143264551There was probably a much better height comparison shot to grab from rather than this one, but the fact Millie is literal ankle biter height to Stolas here makes me seriously think they can't possibly go above 4-5 ft tops.
>>143264789Reminds me of this picture anon made of Millie opening a door and only standing of the hand rail when Loona was standing next to her in comparison.
>how it started
>>143259363Sexy
>>143266299Really miss her early look
>>143266299
>>143266505
>>143263278They reasonably thought those dudes were gonna die. The only reason they didn't was Satan himself showing up. Either way, for the Vees it was data collection.
I imagine her feet taste like a spicy chocolate.
>>143267906Spicy chocolate?
>>143267993Yeah like chocolate with chili peppers in them.
>>143263278What else can she do then?
You guys see the season 2 leaks?
>>143265604Yeah, it was from truth seekers and personally might be the better example to use since yeeah, Loona does roughly look like normal humanish height, especially true given she's in her human form here.
>>143269343>>143265604
>>143266524
>>143269728
>>143269744
>>143263868Is Loona dead to Viv and Erica
>>143261933>(and Niffty's)Niffty's just a one note gag character
>>143270143Niffty is my onahole
>>143269760
>>143271366
I want to see her barefoot in canon but vive draws feet with such little detail it would be a waste.
>>143271923Good. Feetniggers deserve to suffer.
>>143272049>You will never get to feel the joy of licking a womans soft soles as she comforts you with them.
>>143270495niffty is your onahole
>>143271923At best might get a shoe dangle
>>143273532>shoe dangle
>>143271923She'll have hooves to deter the footcretins. Women, particularly terminally online ones like Viv, are onto you freaks now.
>>143269299Hitler was always in heaven
>>143274007For reasons that shouldn't need explaining on /co/, hooves would not deter me.
>>143251721I think it's fitting that she'd want the other overlords to throw themselves at the angels. If they win, Hell finally gets a one-up on Heaven. If they lose, the Vees take control of more of Hell in the ensuing power vacuum. Just a bummer that Velvette herself gets her big villain song and proceeds to go silent for the entire rest of the season.
>>143274007Good thing I already made a wikifeet for viv. Her feet belong to the internet now.
>>143271923Fanart will fill that in, Emily got some good ones she will too.
>>143274203Fanart is always nice but having it happen in canon will just inspire way more fanart of it.
>>143252689Retards want to fuck the spider femboyI want toget fucked by the moth pimp
>>143269299What did Vivzie mean by this?
>>143255506she is my favorite, viv better give her more screentime in s2
>>143274378Who cares if it's canon when you can barely make them out.
>>143275002Because it being canon will make more fanart? Like I said in my post.
>>143275012Well you keep twiddling your thumbs on something that may not happen and if by chance it does it won't be worth it. I want my Lute, Velvette, Carmilla, Emily, Sera feet now and I'm gonna get it.
>>143255506Literally one of the only cute chars in Hazbin other than the few hellhounds that show up here and there. Charlie, Vaggie, Luth all are unattractive af. Like helluva boss. Loona, Octavia and Stella are the only good looking females.
>>143275204Why are you so autistic about me wanting feet? Youre like the chris chan of feet.
>>143275351>wants to see them>now he doesn'tOh so now you're against it? Sorry if it reads out like that but I'm just saying the truth of things. It didn't stop >>143259363 from doing one
Which female overlord has the smelliest feet?
>>143251721Wow she's just like me
I NEED more of her, bros...
>>143274113What happened to the other two exorcists? Did they just freak out and run away when one of them got killed?
They better not screw over my boy Vox or make him go through some gay redemption arc
>people on 4chan can't tell when someone is baiting people This is just embarrassing, guys. You're making yourselves look stupid.
>>143276187Not going to happen until Vox throws in the towel about getting back at the guy who rejected him. Which won't be anytime soon.I'm hoping that in the next season The Vees take center stage as the villains. With Adam (without his halo) as their main muscle. And he's the one that goes through a redemption arc. Hell, a plot with him voluntarily or involuntarily working for The Vees practically writes itself.
>>143251721How would you rate and critique this design...
>>143276187I don't see any of the Vees being redeemed. Especially Valentino.
>>143251880Same
>>143251721She’ll probably fart
I wanna smell her shoes, I bet they smell amazing
>>143276406I had an idea that in order for heaven to see the hotel's legitimacy they have find Cain and try to redeem him. Charlie fails at this and Cain goes to work with the Vees. It'll be show Charlie that redemption isn't as easy as she thinks and give The Vee more threat and power
THEY should've WON.
>>143278868It'll be a real stupid mistake if the two of them aren't at all in the next season.
>>143278977iirc Lute is confirmed to have a solo song in the next season but I'm not sure about Adam.
>>143279329NeatI really do like her singing. Kinda hard to hear her when she does back up for Adam. She has a nice part in "you didn't know"
I want Lute to step on me too
He can't be gone, he must be back the next season
>>143256107the only way i see the Vs as a threat would be heavens giving them support for some whatever reason like i could see lute secret giving them blessed holy weapons to destroy the hotel
>>143256580>>143256655i am hoping that wheres something behind the idea of Adam as a militar leader, like someone put Adam in such high position on purpose to he fails and cause a crysis
>>143255785We have developed immense and terrible ability with self-delusion. It comes in handy in daily life, so why not in entertainment as well?
