Last one went well, hoping things go alright this time. Quick rundown:Clara>nobody girl from the middle of nowhere trying to make it big in the city>fancies herself a perfect little warrior but can't even swing her sword efficiently>pictures herself as a casanova that can save and woo any princess she wants but gets rejected, sometimes violently>despite this, she still carries on like the spunky little lass she is...for nowAxel>exact kind of male chauvinist bully that'd get his ass kicked in any modern show>here he's on top of the world, using the prestige of his status to sleep with countless women>noble(?) heritage ensures his place amongst a group of legendary warriors isn't questioned>no one can touch him>for borderline sadistic reasons he takes Clara under his wing, humiliating her under the guise of training>despite this, both of them begin catching feelings for one another, however warped their perspectives on love might beAny potential plot expansions spring to mind? Maybe some side characters that could be thrown into the mix? Sky's the limit, anons!
>>143267317Man this thread almost went by without me realizing lol. Lucky too just got home from the grocery store may post new art later. I did do art of the warrior muscle girl from last thread never knew if we gave her a name or if people saw it posted like right before the thread died.Also didn't post about best girl kitty so sad
>>143267666Kek, the lore's already been getting pretty expansive so I kept it to the basics for now, apologies there.
>>143267778Cool not my oc just need to find the green for her. Also really would like to officially find her place in the idea with the help of her creator.I do wonder if she's officially a goblin or not if not I kind of want to make a goblin oc no rpg esque story is complete without them.
Which do people prefer? kind of find the pink hair cute but the more canon design is more endearing.
>>143267880The green of the greenie kek, but yeah hopefully he pops in soon. She definitely looks the part, could even be some bootleg goblin race if he wants to have some fun with it.
>>143268606Why not have your cake and eat it too lol, hope the thread picks up. I always love spitballing new ideas to come up with Ocs like the warrior girl/barbarian. Also why I kind of implied to do it the other days cause I knew once we both left the cotc thread would die kek and end of week threads get lower influx compared to during the week. But it should pick up soon hopefully
>>143268656Good point kek, and it might take a bit but we'll get on it, and yeah again apologies there. Just have to keep this thing chugging along.
>>143269323Ha it's cool bro no big deal I'll post some greens in the mean time.>>143267880Green for kitty(I never remember if we decided on this being the official name)
>>143268595Left is for cuddling while watching movies and right is for hanging out.
>>143270238I feel it's vice versa seeing as left looks more like a dyke and right looks more like tomboy girl next door but respectable
>>143268595>entire perceivable personality is "I'm gay"awful
>>143270284Yeah the industry artist that made her basically wanted it to be a big middle finger to Disney's practices...while simultaneously trying to pitch it to Disney.
>>143270284That's why we are here to fix it and use the broken remains to make something good.>Also dyke break depending on who you ask. First Clara Axel greens
>>143270455Heh typical modern creator how does that work, fuck the establishment for not accepting us then begging for their money/taking their support while saying they are the outsiders.
>>143270714Might be both a sympathy and blackmail thing, where they think the company's going to offer them a job if it means shutting them up, least in general cases. In Sab's it's hard to say really.
>>143267317You know reading through this is hilarious because I felt they were the end goal ship but I wonder how long it would take to reach that end result lol.Also as always I'll be the resident drawfag bros, Hope we can come up with some fun ideas. If not I also just bought a fashion book may draw some of the characters in some outfits like I did with Axel in the first thread. But I do want to draw some new characters or get some new ideas So far we haveCharacters>Clara(the og pilot character) Our cringefail heronine>Axel(First oc) Fuckboi Knight>Kitty Evil princess who has crush on clara>Axe barbarian girl who is currently namelessIdeas so far>Sultr-main evil force/Evil god or demon king>Roundtable of strongest knights>Kingdom of light>Magitech/medivelpunk world>Power system ideas(not fleshed out at all but talked on)>if anymore someone add lolBut yeah I'm gonna catch some Zs I'll be back to draw some sketches or any ideas I like. Hope to join some cool discussions bros, Also I want to be 3 for 3 when making comics for the threads Easier to do one offs but a good comic a thread is fun
>>143270936Well she already had her foot in the door I suppose, also in the end of the day I can see it being both. Less we forget Anita Sarkessian started a internet(twitter) controversy and then tried to use this to get a consulting job on the company she tried to cancel/blast then she did get one for another gaming company.
>>143271082A sent a bad crop bleh, not much of a difference but it irks me
>>143270658Which do you think is stronger? Axel’s orientation play? Or Kitty’s corruption? personally I think they’re around equal strength we just haven’t gone far enough with Kitty
>>143267880>>143269447Kitty’s creator here. Kitty is not a goblin but she essentially has the soul of a goblin also I’m fine with it being her name or a nickname as she was initially created to deconstruct characters like Catra. Essentially, Kitty is a demon princess with a personality similar to Jack Spicer who wants to help her father take over the world so that she can rule a chunk of it with her siblings. She has a massive crush on Clara and wants to make her into her dark bride/knight. And since you mentioned it, she probably has a goblin army at her commend, though her species is more similar to a catgirl but goblin-like as her brain chemistry resembles an actual cat
>>143271732Probably axel as we know dick is like weirdly hot to lesbians. I do think the corruption is hot but not as easy to push on Clara who has Mary sue autism. She's to pure and wouldn't be as attracted to evil as a knight she respects
>>143272009Well now that's even more interesting happy to get more of your opinion on it. I wonder how my wires got crossed on drawing her so small kek. I suppose just time maybe I'll try and design her again.I do like that idea and about how I saw her mostly idk what her real name should be but works as a nickname kitty and all. Real name should probably be long and annoying to say like a princess lol. If I ask any advice on how you'd like her to be drawn. Or maybe greens or scenarios I remember you saying she had dark magic i.e where my she revives Clara thing came from. As anon above said I do want to finish fleshing her out as the third character kek.Also always good hearing from ya bro
>>143272330Honestly I don’t really have much of a preference on how she should be drawn as I really wanted her to be a joint creation without true ownership like Clara and Axel. As of right now her current appearance is mostly due to me overestimating how tall Clara was when I described her as shorter than Clara. Overall just make her look like an evil princess and Clara’s worst nightmare and maybe give her tiara. Honestly the most important part of her design is getting her body language right so that she has the right combination of Princess haughtiness, evil goblin energy, and desperation for a girlfriend
>>143272424Hmmm now that last part is hard maybe a ref??? But yeah cool bro but still like to have a level of canon and credit where credit is do lol. But I feel you while they have certain personality traits and nature's I like it as a free ride so we can just drop ideas and slowly build something fun.Also did enjoy your first green with her so hope to see more from you. It's always fun trying to flesh out these thing to me. Like a massive bro collab. Yeah Clara is pretty small it seems. Always headcannoned kitty as the same height or a inch or two taller. But yeah always feel free to chime in you arr like a og like ac120
>>143272479Alright and thanks for that. What I really want to figure out is how exactly to make Kitty hit that sweet spot of Clara hating her because she’s everything she wants but evil. That way both she and Axel are basically her betraying her morals but in separate directions
>>143272548Since Kitty is one of several demon spawn I think she should not be the only female child of the demon king There should be another princess, one who looks like a traditional fantasy anime succubus ruler/female demon lord with the personality of Philomena Cunk
>>143272548Ha fun idea in my head they were just the main trio already lol. I see her and axel being begrudgingly friendly because they keep Clara alive and want to corrupt her different ways. She's that unwitting ally maybe axel pays her in Clara pics.Sounds like plan would love to see a green of this bro. Said I want to try and do a comic a thread and maybe it'll be this be nice to have all three interacting. I do think we lean into kitty being a failure or brat/schizo in her own right to make her more endearing and less overbearing threat but thats just me all about perspective and I want to see yours play out
>>143272631Alright. I might write a green later when I’m less tired. I’m still debating if she should be a genuine threat who can only be defeated by Clara because of the crush, or more along the lines of a comedic villain who hangs out with the heroes on weekends
>>143272607Interesting I has a few concepts for them in my head I was going to call them the [spoilers]godlings[/spoiler]Had a few ideas from monstrous to humanoid so that's a interesting one. Had a idea of one being half fae being female.I'd love to hear more of the idea but succubi can be hit or mix honestly.>>143272761Ha never saw her as genuine mostly because in my head I saw the sultr kids as like each on roundtable knight/lower tier hero level. Luke they'd have to go beyond their limits like anime characters but they could still win. But the kids get stronger the older and closer they are to sultr with kitty being the baby so like first dungeon final boss tier.But I can't wait to see what you make bro
I also still enjoy the meme that Clara is super weak against slimes
>>143271115Yeah though it ended up backfiring when she basically refused any form of compromise, promptly showed her the door. Kek, very apt point there too. Also glad to see the thread picked up some steam! Had to zonk out for a while but I'm back.
>>143273884That's good bro also now one of them married herself at 40yrs old not looking too good having that mind set lol. Also yeah hopefully it sticks around so I can draw something new or get ideas.They always forget the door is right there sometimes like no beef cause hey she's doing her thing but come on.
>>143273952Yet she probably still views herself as the successful one kek, and no worries I'll maintain it as best I can.Yeah a lot of these types forget that there's several other people right there to take her place.
>>143274273Truly they do they think they are unique and special and a out the box thinker when they are just the new establishment. I don't hate them or anything either just hard to believe they don't realize they are a dime a dozen in comparison to the ones actually pushed to the brinks. Like the creator of spawn and the likes the ones with actual creativity and talent are sadly usually not allowed in the industry.Also yeah weird those feminist of our youth are now becoming what people memed, like one was working at a grocery store the other is grifting and stealing money for a 10 year old game that'll never come out and now the main ring leader is slowly becoming a old cat lady literally how sad is it to marry yourself at 40 like that's pretty telling of your future. Thanks for keeping it going gonna try and draw something tonight but got no real ideas maybe try and draw a new kitty sketch
>>143271082There was the "Magic Sword of Power" a magic talking sword that grants its wielder great power if they are worthy to pull it out.Clara gets to the sword and tries to pull it out but fails. She then tries multiple times to the point of annoying the sword, in which it then proceeds go into detail on how exactly she isn't worthy in the slightest. Really beating her down emotionally.
>>143274436yeah we did talk about that remember that was my second clara comic. Think I posted it last thread?
>>143270261Left is wearing clothes that looks like she's ready for bed, besides the shoes
>>143274975True I'll give ya that suppose I was being foolish anon. But yeah I mean no knight gf to cuddle with???
>>143275365No full Plate armor gf
>>143274379"Different in the exact same way" comes to mind kek, and yeah the lack of self-awareness almost makes them sympathetic but not really. Least those types blazed their own trail, even if their legacy seems to be following suit with all this quirky shit.Eh, least it serves as a cautionary tale for those who come after, their own fall of Rome as it were kek. And that should work, we kind of covered Clara and Axel a lot already and we still need to give new anons some breathing room I suppose.
>>143267317>male chauvinist bullyCRIN—>both of them begin catching feelings for one another—BASEDBASEDBASEDBASED
As I said earlier I bought a fashion art book, so decided to try a few outfits with Kitty since we've been talking about her. Tried for a bit of both goblin lil mischievous girl and haughty princess hope you guys like it. Tell me which you prefer?Also so sad no one talks about the muscle axe girl *cries* I'll do more art tommorow hopefully we get more ideas kind of want to think about the worldbuilding and power system lol, but I always enjoy the character ideas and greens so really let's keep at it.
>>143275794Truly a travesty, need to get into larping to find one and she'd be fit too most likely a buddy of mine into it talked about how much all that stuff weighed and how much actual exercise it is. >>143275873I posted the old green that Axel was created for here>>143270658 Their is art connected to it should be posted later. But this is more back when it was more just a scumbag porn idea, now we are trying to flesh out the characters and just build out a lore and story to a degree.
>>143276048Oooh nice! I absolutely love these designs. And I’ll be sure to talk about ace girl soon I like to imagine her last name is literally Hatchet
>>143275942Lol didn't even realize but this second reply was for you anon>>143276067
>>143275873yep, really hit the nail on the head as much as I want to not be mean about it honestly it's all the same. You've got your weak males that are only strong when they are villians otherwise they become softbois, you've got your always right female protags, your effeminate black boys, your quirky latinos and white girls. All about the same everytime like as much as I like playing with the concept honestly clara's story was probably just going to be high guardian spice or nu-ra. So as you said the exact same feels like we've gotten the exact same mcs like 3 times in a row recently sadly.It should be the question is will it??? also seems it's coming close to a end the old guard are showing what happens when you make this type of thing your whole life and weird how the chuds are winning lol. Like as much as I don't like people like the quartering and etc, they at least have good jobs and make money and have wife and kids. While literally I don't think any of the main people from the opposite side have anything like kids or real success and steady income kek. So yeah weird but seems to be a end of a era but to be fair it'll have been a decade soon from when it became mainstream so makes sense most trends only last a bout a decade or so like that atheist phaseAlso yeah that was the idea plus just dumb fun for me>>143276327Thanks happy you like them just redraws lowkey straight from the book mostly. Also cool hope you like her I'll post the other pic of her but the top one is my fave and best.Idk in my head originally she had red hair cause celtic barbarian/viking so I was thinking something more in line with that. Hatchet feels so basic sadly and doesn't fit a medieval world 100%.
>>143276048Honestly they both suit her, the goth lolita look's always a feast for the eyes! Very much plays into her potentially demonic heritage. Personally the right strikes me as a proper villainess but thay's just me. Kek she'll catch on I'm sure bud, and I have a good feeling it's all going to come together!
>>143276758>right for attacking heroes >left for seducing Clara
Bump
>>143276709Ah got it. Any relationship with the fae?
>>143277725Nah just a idea funny enough saw her as a early on villian for Axel to fully flesh out the power system and his placement in rankings. She being a part fae would have annoying skill or abilities and it'd be a good way to show off he's strong but not the strongest roundtable knight. But axel is a schemer so he basically out play a op or annoying ability one idea for her ability was some form of stat or power displayment. I did have a character idea for her companion knightlove interest
>>143276758True. I felt both brought a lil something different to her character aesthetics. So happy you like it anon still want a more definitive outfit. I liked my og one but het Axel got a fashion show why not her. I would give Clara one but I feel she's not appearance oriented kek.Also thank you I enjoyed designing her as well sad a muscle girl didn't take off as fast as I thought. Really do see kitty as being a bit more like Axel than she'd like to agree if this was a series she'd have the second most alt outfits/designs only to him. I now imagine them both as the fashionista popular kids then a poorly kempt tomboy Clara runs up in a tee and uneven pants.>>143277179Sounds about right really poor heroes they'd love to be in Clara's situation instead or dying.
>>143274516I don't think it was posted. Cool of you to make it.
So any good ideas for the magic/power system? I believe we talked about dark and light as one idea of a base power difference
>>143277179Kek, having one for business and pleasure certainly fits. >>143278143Definitely showcases just how varied her wardrobe and personas can be, and yeah if anything people would consider it surprising that a prettyboy like him got that treatment first. Yeah she's the type that'd just want the most practical clothing, to the point she looks a bit underdressed a lot of times.Just needs a little extra exposure and some more fanart is all, she'll be a shoe-in. Kek yeah they'd both take full advantage of their influence within society to get what they want rather than fight if they can help it. Sounds about right lmao.
>>143278500I swore it was but alas, now it is. Again two for two so far, hopefully three for three soon. Happy you liked it.
>>143279160Yeah and I think we talked about some warriors having abilities specific to them regarding their body type or status, with some making sense and others being an ironic twist that makes one underestimate their opponent.
>>143267317Angrily responds -what about you?
>>143279681Interesting idea I kind of like rpg everyone has skills and magic but more D&D logic like maybe support skills or magic as well. But unique ability to everyone would be fun as well, I did imagine warrior girl may have some unique tank ability
>>143279162Sounds about right, but a true Queen can make a fit that does both.Well of course Axel would he's the best boy, also yeah always good to have a bit of everything with your characters. I can definitely see that with Clara her armor is always polished and cleaned before a quest but she's the type to not care about her out of work attire sometimes wearing her armor even on off days. Hopefully yeah maybe Ac120 will appear and bless us would love to see how he interprets kitty and Axe girl. but I think he's in the peni thread right now. Funny enough I see that only with Axel, see Kitty as a mix of them both not as stupid and foolish as Clara but is a brat and foolhardy in her own rights. I feel they are more popular but represent different aspects. I feel they'd be fun duo in a trio, definitely have hate boners for each other but without the typical shipping that comes with it.
Weird we've barely posted Clara the mc this thread
>>143280240Could be something like a berserker mode, though maybe it also protects against certain attacks or effects enemies can deal too. "Fighting Spirit" comes to mind but maybe that's too generic.>>143280521Fair point, strikes fear in her enemies and makes her would-be suitors swoon.That he is, whole reason this idea snowballed in the first place kek, and very rue there. Yeah always wants to keep up appearances in public, but once she gets home she just doesn't care like in that one image where she's depressed and eating something.Given how he did with Axel's AU meathead brother I think he'd do a good job with axe girl, and who knows he might pop back in here soon. That's fair, are stuck together due to plot reasons but she ultimately has her own agenda, would be neat to see that in action.
>>143282342Berserker mode is pretty kino, though I was thinking of unique like on some quirks stuff lol. Maybe everyone has a unique skill type thing, so she has damage negation or some force of temp berserker invulnerability. I can accept fighting spirit maybe just spirit or soul idk, like it works for more hand to hand and sword based fighters maybe have like 3 different energies like most so >holy/light>Fighting spirit(think of a better name lol) like nen or for physical power>magicPoor would be suitors see her real type looks at derped eyed Clara digging in her nose or being beaten by slimes as she cries kek. But based idea gives her it all now we must find the outfit.Thank yee, he deserves his praise and part in the lore. Yeah also crazy we have like 3 depressed Clara images from different anons is it secretly our fetish lol. She is definitely like that all appearances and her knight autismo.I think so as well he might just like her or kitty we shall see. I can see it a traitor arc or her choosing her sibling over the team already plotted it in my head But she'd add to the fun dynamic of the team trios are best and we need more ffm trios
>>143281231Well let’s come up with other ways that she could potentially fail Personally I like the previously suggested idea that whenever she tries to do something evil she’s naturally talented at it
>>143283469What if Kitty used an alternate persona to join the team, pretending to be a rogue while hiding her true nature and trying to slowly tempt Clara over to the dark side
>>143283488Heh it's a useless skill since she's so good, but I can see that she hangs out with Kitty and we cut back to her covered in blood and guts kitty is giddy as she's unintentionally committed a racial genocide on some forest creatures.>>143283518That'd be funny especially if Axel already knows and just wants to see how it plays out. But the question would be should the audience know or not??? I do think that her just being a random lil demon princess on the team could be funny. Maybe we do the joke like meliodas or sanji where her wanted poster is a bombshell villianess like we'd expect then it's actually Kitty so no one suspects her being one of Sultr's kids.
>>143283791>Clara comes across a village if peaceful slimes >one comes up to say hello >namflashback.jpg>Clara immediately cuts it in two causing a panic In the town >the guards show up >moreflashbacks.jpg>Clara starts butchering her way through the slime village killing not just the men but the women and children too
>>143284778Ha I had a funny idea like this but with goblins, their was going to be a goblin round table knight. Clara is a unintentional gobbo racist, but basically this clara murders a bunch of goblins then it's revealed that goblins are actually not monsters and are intelligent creatures. Insert horror of the goblin knight learning Clara murdered a village of gobbos.>But I like yours a lot fits her whole slime beef thing
>>143283469Exactly, maybe it also takes away from something, like she's impervious for a certain amount of time but her intelligence tanks which means she has the potential to end up in a really tight spot without backup. Alternatively maybe "heart of a warrior." I'd say that's a solid base so far.Kek my thoughts exactly, lost to a complete doofus mary sue wannabe like her. True, maybe something like Marceline wore in that Fionna and Cake episode?Definitely, helping lay some form of groundwork earns you a spot in the "pantheon" kek. Could be, closet slobs are kind of in right now, and it'd definitely give people an odd impression of her.Blood's thicker than water after all, probably just leaves poor Clara to get captured. For sure, especially ones that don't fall back on ships.
>>143267317Bop
>>143281231Her presence is felt thankfully
>>143287459Prescene is required though the lazy bitch. That's it this is the Kitty show!
>>143286133True be a interesting route to take but she's also a warrior so probably enjoys it plus I saw her as dumb barbarian girl that's insanely into fighting. But in her free time wants to experience normal girl stuff because from warrior tribe and now is in the city I saw her like a reverse clara in certain ways.Oh yeah that weird gothic lolita/twink vibe, though I don't see her as a big pants type especially those type but I assume you mean the dress. Also They were literally cucked to death.Less closet as konata and tomoko are og 4chan waifus, also really it's more the in thing is cringefail/abused gfs. Guess people got tired of the overuse of dommymommies now they want a protectable or bulliable gf kek. I suppose he has made his place now our boy has proven his worth up to us to make him knownActually my idea was a arc with capture killedAxel it's a long plot line but resurrections are canon cause RPG but you need certain thing and a dark mage like Kitty should be able to fuck with a rez kind of could be a Clara alone arc like she has to get stronger and less childish now that one of her lifelines betrays her and the other needs to be rescued Yeah but technically it does though kek Now I'm contemplating what to draw, threads a bit slow right now if we can make it to the week hopefully it picks up
>>143281231What’s there to post about her aside from failure and bullying?
>>143289170I mean she's the thing that has facilitated the thread and ideas so she deserves her respect. Plus that's like saying what's their to post about a bombshell besides her ass and tits, that's her best parts
>>143289354I think we should explore the roots and start deconstructing Disney tv plotlines
>>143289617I thought that's what we were already doing? Unless you mean trying to make it more DTV which I wouldn't recommend since they are so generic. But We could try and mess with typical plot lines and ideas and mess with them or use them but with better interactions or ways we'd like to see them
>>143290733Yeah that’s kind of what I mean. Like the obligatory prom episode, how can we mess that up?
Now I have reached 3 for 3 status did another comic. This one about Axe girl who really needs a name.
>>143290772Heh Knight prom, actually nah we do the gay ass Hellfire gala like Xmen has been doing. Just a met gala but with knights and heroes around the world. But really more likely and makes more sense to do the typical ball thing since they are knights and being a knight makes you semi nobility in most older cultures so really just them going to some form of Ball between all the countries.
>>143291373Why not just pull a Goblin Slayer and call her Axe Girl
>>143291660I refuse she's a beautiful muscle girl and needs a fitting name. Also if we were going to do that we should have started the naming convention earlier lol.
>>143290772Actually what if we played with the typical gets a lover but they are evil or friends hate them vibe
>>143291373For some reason Brunhilde comes to mind, albeit that's kind of a stronggirl name as it is so it might be too on the nose.
Gonna be honest I've never really been into comics or cartoons where the conceit is seeing unlikeable people get owned on loop, because I still have to put up with them being unlikeable in the meantime. This feels like the genderswap of a Rick and Morty or Bojack episode where a therapist or writer self-insert monologues their epic dunk on the protag
>>143292366Actually sounds fun though more viking sadly. Idk kind of wanted something kelsey gives a vibe bug not to hearty like it'd fit modern as well.
>>143292672Ha well in this it's less nihilistic and dry and more slapstick imagine eene but if eddy wasn't our main viewpoint most times. Plus always felt for more story parts goal was to develop Clara and really as we've talked about the cast around her should be enjoyable. Overall we more wanted to take it and fix it and use concept not some massive thing. You have your opinion on it and I respect that bro. But think we more are having fun at the deconstruction of a Mary Sue and how they'd really get along in a world.
>>143293475No it's cool, I get where you're coming from now. It's a matter of approach and presentation. The combination of OP's summary and picture gave me the impression it hued closer to something like Princess Highground than Ed Edd 'n' Eddy. I'll just keep tabs on this thread in the meantime to get a better idea of the whole project
>>143294410Ha nah because at worse Clara is more of a cringefail girl, it's funny to see her fail but we lean more into the naivety than the dyke bitch vibes. Though early on some wanted to and that's why I was against it, that slowly becomes to mean spirited and just the reverse of shitty shows that are out now. Though I think it can work in more one offs like princess highground where yeah mostly just one off comics for shits and giggles. Ok cool hope you like it bro I've posted a few comics of how the series goes in my head before and one of the og greens though it does lean more towards horny and a bit mean spirited but it was more just us finding out what we wanted to do with the concept though I say we should be a bit open to all sides it's all in good fun to me.
>>143292771Fair, could be comedic with the Axe Girl thing, have it where no one bothered to learn her name but she still responds to that title kek.
>>143295093Idk feels out of character for Clara who would 100% look up to her lol. But I see your point just feels like something for a lesser character but her being a powerful character and one to represent that the world has female heroines is a bit foolhardy I believe kek. Maybe something like >Astrid>Elise>Asa(though chainsawman being so recent that'd be bad I suppose)>Brea(Breanna full name)Also Hatchet being her last name kind of growing on me but open to more options depending on how it all sounds together lol
>>143295337Could see it being the case for Kitty or Axel more than anything, maybe Clara tries to ask occasionally but immediately gets cut off by something happening. Would personally go with Brea and Hatchet works just fine kek.
>>143268595The left one just looks like fag propaganda you'd find in some nasty Tumblerite's webcomic.The right one is clearly trying to live up to all those old fairy tale heroes, who were male of course, and whose end goal was to save the princess and live happily ever after. Yes, her sexual orientation is still part of her character, but she has a personal history and motivations that you can actually care about. She stands apart from the million garishly colored dyke blob characters that already exist.
>>143295993That could be a running joke but would probably work better with her teammate/fellow knight. Who in my head is smaller guy who's a bit depressed and timid to bounce off her confident and hyper>Brea Hatchet hmmmmmmm>>143296560Ha damn right off the bat bro? but you aren't wrong the gay and rainbow does feel a bit obvious and childish.I think both are breedable but you are right best Clara is knight one as she feels like a character. Also the fact she has the potential of a hero but also the naivety to grow as well.
Ac120 sure did draw a great Axel lowkey
>>143267317More og concept stuff
>>143297021Good point, someone that's closer to her (but not quite) That'd be cute, could even make him scene-ish with some droopy hair maybe. And kek it does have a ring to it.
>>143298580You've read my mind I'll sketch him later on but I have a image in my head. I won't spoil it til I drop it lol. Also yeah think like Axel no names perfect and it catches on.Breanna Hatchet pretty nice tone.
>>143298788No worries there, you never disappoint when it comes to lore expansion like this kek. That works too, don't wanna get too far into it just yet.And yeah it makes her seem relatable while also playing into her trope a bit, very much in this general DTVA style.
>>143299275Yeah to much and it's hard to go back lol, but also wanted to see what others opinions are. Seems we'll last til tomorrow and usually peeps are busy during the weekend.Ha are we even at that tier at this point? but true does fit but I mean we've had some shows of that variety that got pretty deep and lore heavy.
>>143299326Exactly, have to feel out things once we get to see him, and yeah seems this has a more active following than we anticipated kek. I was just meaning style-wise in this case, I know there was a knight named Sir Stabby or a multi-armed princess named Patty in Star vs. Would say we have the makings of an official setting, still got a ways to go but still.
Concept art for series of Clara's room.
>>143300327Would be funny if that's the room she blew most of her initial funds on, like it's the dungeon-punk equivalent of a penthouse suite. Probably ends up out on her ass when she can't make ends meet as quickly as she'd hoped.
>>143300041Ha Idk about all that yet, but we can only hope soWe should never use Star vs as a gauge of anything kek, but you aren't wrong but now that makes me hate her last name. Star vs disappointed me so hard bro.>>143300788Sad you just pitched your typical rural girl when she moves to a place like Cali and New york. Which that one part of my green I consider most canon was based on. As someone that lives in the more rural area but close enough to the city/urban vibes of his place girls have dreams of grandeur and it happened so much it got depressing. Literally and add onto that all the new models for girls to make cash fast or perceived that way went from a few girls to like 1/3 of all the girls I knew doing it.Just like this too never calculate more than like a month in why are some girls like retarded with money?, like that recent thing of the mother of two moving to texas to be a influencer and only having a week worth of funds and no job she planned to work it out in a week kek. That was Clara she got into the knight academy barely graduated after that she assumed she'd be a big shot. Funny if instead of her getting kicked out this place is nothing to someone like Axel or Kitty(more likely axel pays for it as it's literally like him going to red lobster
Does anyone remember what we named the capital of the kingdom of Light???
>>143300041>>143298580>>143298788I have finished him and I love him so much. Also any advice on the clothes while they make him easy to draw I'd be open to changing it. Literally based him off a old high school edgy oc so he's my fave as of nowAlso in my head he's more of a mage than a knight/swordsman.
>>143297685Epitome of a douchey prettyboy
>>143302747You mean best boi, plus as I said in the other thread I see him a bit like the face of the current gen of Knights. But he does more photoshoots than knight work, but also yeah when me and the first anon came up with him the literal words we used were Fuckboi,egotist, and princely kek.>Weird how he's the first oc but I've drawn him the least thank god for Ac120
>>143268595Another clara design not a big fan of it though
>>143267317>Claraunder what circumstances would she try guys and how would she feel about it?
>>143301433Either way, here's hoping activity picks up once the week starts properly kek.Fair, I just know she had a hand in the writing there so it wouldn't surprise me if she made a call like that. Did for me too, partially why these threads even exist now kek.Just feels perfect for what was clearly a self-insert of some sort, for once we don't mind fiction being a reflection of reality kek. It's a sorry state of affairs but it makes for some nice humbling character development in this case.Yeah I assume it's just not being taught proper money management and vastly overestimating how well they're going to do there. Him or Kitty being basically her landlord would make the power dynamics all the sweeter, still needs help from someone after all that talk of being her own woman.>>143301872Seems it was Luxnor lol, had to dig for it.>>143302742I can definitely see some of the influences at play here, but honesty I like it, maybe a little tweaking to make it look like the FF white mages and no one would be the wiser.
>>143303448Probably something like this>>143270658 kekBut she probably tried because of her parents at least once or twice. But nothing serious just typical come on go on a date with cletus down the road lol.
>>143303574Definitely hope so always good to have more ideas and concepts bouncing around.Wait you know Sage did work on star vs right? also yeah didn't know that but always interesting knowing a bit more of the lore I remember the thread about it way back when as well but felt different from this lolOh that it does perfect set up for learning to be a adult, like not everything goes your way kek. Sometimes you must think things through.Sadly yeah this but seems weirdly common with girls they talk about that, how on average women tend to have the most credit card debt. But yeah really that something about not thinking these things through and expecting life to go too easy lol. Also yes but probably Axel as I feel Kitty's money isn't liquid, and she's probably bad at money herself and her daddy won't fun a random loft in the capital of kingdom of light. But you aren't wrong the dynamic would be hilarious, she talks a big game and they don't even believe it just their own interest and how little it is to them. While most would have long kicked her out on her ass after her 3rd month of overdue rent but sayng she'll make her big dungeon break soon kek.I felt that's what I said really need to list all the things mentioned we need a lore keep like for skyrim but actually good.I AM INFLUENCED BY NOTHING!!! but yeah probably also nah too far into that and then we've really made a modern DTV show with no creativity lol. Also I like my straps but maybe I can try and mix in the red triangles but he's not that type of mage like at all like at all all. Also hope yee like me boi, needs a name but yeah he's Brea partner/a fellow roundtable knight though he looks like a squire to most. Any opinions on him will be fine I may do another sketch soon with more info on him after I wake up, hard finding good concepts for him.
>>143303409Could see it working for a dream sequence, that it's her ideal armor combo that's super expensive while in reality she'll be lucky to hold onto what she has
>>143268595Left's too tryhard, right feels more sincere
>>143304166True seems to be consensus kek, could be that left feels more like self insert as well/more modern.
>>143304003Lucky as she's already lost it kek, sounds about right though Clara is barely hanging in there. I think in the end of the day that works I was gonna say feels like she should be Clara's mom or something. But her ideal self could work as well
>>143304509Yeah it's painfully contemporary, exact kind of design that'd take someone out of the story if she were in say a DnD campaign.
>>143305854Heh reminds me of that one viva la dirt league about the guy with the dumb name ruining the feel of the game. It's true too I like to be a troll in my DnD campaigns but within reason. But you meet those that think the game is dumb or a massive larp session but in a cringe way.
>>143305971Yeah those types miss the point of the game entirely, they think their in-game bio should read like a fucking tumblr profile.
>>143306120Sadly yes most of the comedy should come from dumbassery. Like once I was playing as a character with ptsd so I had him randomly sperg out. I didn't go overboard on him being some sad boy uwu lol. Really though I hate that usually why I like letting the dm approve or make most of the backstory because some people get to into it in a weird way kek.Remember that happening in one of my campaigns in college with a lesbian bard
>>143306170Oh definitely, I know "clown-ish character with a tragic backstory" is a pretty popular nowadays and with good reason. Good point there too, nothing excessive but it serves as a good backbone.I can already imagine, Clara-tier antics.
>>143306936Yeah plus we were in a mental hospital and got me to a different part as I got take as a patient not as a investigator/guest. But yeah I think that can work clownish I love that but most people don't know how to do a truly tragic backstory anymore or nuance and depth. Like I swear some characters just feel like this "I girlbossed to close to the sun, or sad soft boy but evil" Or the most common and totally overused with no nuance in all DTV stuff ABUSE ABUSE ABUSE ABUSE ABUSEYou'd be right and wrong as it was worse and she was one of those types that would complain every five seconds about DnD being cringe or sexist or worst of all make lewd jokes/hit on everything then call you weird for doing the smallest one.>basically picrelBut she did get clara tier when we purposefully would leave her behind or the DM would fuck her over for being annoying she was also one of those types that tried to beat the DM/fuck with them like they had beef so super annoying kek
>>143307106Always nice when people use alternate avenues of exploration, reminds me of that UFO truther that webt off on his own and ended up encountering Cthulhu before the party had really begun doing anything kek. Either that or they can offer some decent dark humor if the juxtaposition hits hard enough. So accurate it hurts kek.There's some solid irony in hating how women are portrayed in the setting while also sexualizing them herself. Then again they aren't known for internal consistency. Deserved, especially if she's being actively antagonistic to a group that willingly welcomed her in.
>>143307571I did the same thing funny enough in that run, I was escaping the hospital/manor with like 1hp and came across a mine and met some Lovecraftian god then punched it and just went back to the asylum I got left behind kek. Yeah really you realize those to sensitive for dark/edgy humor usually aren't god at writing or creating. also not saying the cringe edgy but like people that look back on old jokes or memes and think wow how did anyone like this as if it's a affront to them instead of just old school cringe.Truly is accurate abuse has become a one size fit all redeemer and backstory quick fix, literally no nuance or plot just "I WAS ABUSED SO I'M GOOD NOW". Also yeah she quite literally was like that, didn't help most of her jokes/lewdness fell flat. Which the thing was she was like brand new to the group as well recommended by someone else so again yeah you're not that guy yet. But me most of my lewd jokes were pointed at my Best bro so I wasn't annoying anyone but him mostly and never intentionally/aggressively ruined the campaign. Sadly they always are for some reason, it's why that one south park ep irked me about the girls being really into board games/roleplaying games. From my experiences their are some but once they became mainstream most just want to try in a trending way. which isn't bad but usually they hate everything about it and aren't interested which again you won't know til you try but in that case just leave but some usually the annoying ones want to change the group or dm
>>143270284Truly kek
>>143308494Come on give her a chance, to be better
>>143308568Going to take a lot of work that's for sure.
>>143308972Well that's what the threads about I suppose lol
Surprised we haven't posted this classic axel sketch by Ac120
>>143310996AU where Clada wasn't just a little blowhard in over her head.
>>143311714Funny we've already got aus of the au/fixed/rewrite lol. I like the concept though but it feels so different it's crazy lol, Ac120 really went off and I lowkey respect it though. Hope he takes a liking to more of the characters as well. But yeah evil au I guess seeing as Clara feels like a bit like a Dwarf schizo/aggressive female bad end world I believe we called it at the time.
We rarely post these classic Magi Clara sketches.
>>143312396Least we have an excuse to now kek, hopefully thread activity picks up soon.
>>143307973Punched papa Azathoth right in the kisser and no one will believe you kek. Yeah self-inflicted censorship on what you can and can't write about is basically scooping out any personality your writing had, and yeah I got you there kek.The Catra school of thought has been disasterous for beginner character writing, and you can't tell em it sucks or you're horrible. Likely learned all her pickup lines from her social circle or some romcom she supposedly hates, and yeah that's something you only start once you've been accepted in the group. I get you, very much glorified tourists or "culture vultures" as some put it, tis a shame but at least people are sobering up a bit there.
>>143312996Ha we always say that but hey here's hoping. Gonna try and draw something soon
>>143313807It drove him insaner I suppose and angered the cult or whatever lol. You aren't wrong it's both a modern writing problem and what is killing/alienating fans from stuff like DnD.I swear Nu-ra fans make me feel crazy for not liking Catra, like even design wise she lives off her fanart. They act like she had the greatest character of all time lol. When she was a poorly written brat that was all over, it's one of my biggest pet peeves idk what to call it but they really did have her be all over as a character. Not wrong sadly she really would Idk why those types feel like they hate everything, See even then it's more like got to have rizz or chad like energy for it not a awkward dyke falling to pieces kek. Yeah like the new Warhammer thing notice people only came in to bitch about fans not wanting a retcon of the girl Custodians and then calling them chubs and incels even though they don't know the lore or care until now. That they are the current bs is that stellar blade vs Hades 2 thing. Also any ideas or opinion for the thread lol
>>143302742More of depressed boi(rule of three want each character min to have 3 sketches lol) Also sorry about the coloring fogot my monitor has high color range so the purple is less dynamic for most.>Still needs a name poor boi
>>143314686Not sure what the deal is at this point honestly, looking forward to it though!
>>143315676Eh sometimes shits just slow bro *shrug*, it's like CotC threads sometimes it's just about momentum and starting strong. Really hopefully picks up but tis life>>143315670Did one last sketch of him been doing more quick doodles also wanted to try different coloring that fits the character in my head idk. Hope you guys like our nameless boi I have some ideas for him but willing to hear any ideas.
I'm happy to know that even before these threads started people thought Clara was a cringefail girl jobber and needed correction kek
>>143315670>>143315952Really do apologize for the timing, surprised the slump lasted this long honestly. Great work regardless though! He's already growing on me quite a bit, helps I'm a sucker for boys that have been put through the wringer a bit.
>>143317214Thanks I feel the 3rd one is a bit to normal lol, got to do a slightly bigger head they always say that's good for doing a youthful character plus he's already got the eye bags which would make him look older lol. I just like to imagine he's a totally legal halfling but could be a shota But yeah I've already done some basic lore/plotting for him but I rather hear from others before finalizing because even though I make them I feel they are like Kitty sometimes the other ideas maybe better or more fun. But I might drop them a bit later really busy today.Really though why I said not weekend the momentum of these threads are a bit haphazard as it's a newer thread and a newer idea. But also not your fault bro as I said just is what it is. Hopefully more peeps come through friday-monday are weird days as people do what they know or are tired and chilling. We shall see what's next for the thread hope a green gets made kind of can't since I'm drawing so much but I just might do one forgoing a drawing today kek.
At this point the original name and concept have nothing to do with what you haveYou should probably figure out another name for your light sadism
>>143317916It's just us hammering out some ideas for the world itself, we've already fleshed out the titular mary sue a lot as it is.
>>143317916I mean the thread name is lowkey the name at this point also I'm pretty sure we've only gotten like 2 names>kingdom of Light>ClaraWhich allow us some leeway and almost like algebra we are finding things out from what we've already got. Also why is it light sadism not even nearly as bad as early on when we were more just raw dyke breaky. Cries
>>143318116Oh must have just missed your post kek, but yeah we weirdly have but also makes that one green I did canon when I was more just trying to be horny but at the same time guess during it I started trying to do a bit more character study of Clara as I had her messed with. Like her being a commoner and her having wholesome parents but a strained relationship because of her mary sue ego. (really a good idea for a mary sue deconstruction, girl can't accept her farmer parents because well they are farmers and that goes against her I'm the honored one mentality.)>>143317916Also anon hope neither of these came out confrontational not mine or most likely other anons intention. But really what would you be thinking anyway? Always love hearing new perspectives
>>143317916Isn't 'get a clue' even more appropriate now that she's a delusional loser than it was for the original concept?
>>143318600I imagine so actually but I like the title to almost be a turn of phrase for a new genre that I hope comes after people get tired of all these overly plucky and mary sue lite heroines. I love Luz, Anne and Molly but sometimes they can be grating worst case being Star butterfly who was just all of their worst aspects in one character.So i.e the "Mary Sue gets a clue" genre lol. but yeah I don't even think she's meant to be a delusional loser 100% more just a typical girl with dreams of grandeur but learning she needs to scale herself back less she becomes a annoyance.
At this point does Clara count as a /co/ girl/ /oc/
>>143268595>>143296560I can't help but think this concept would be more interesting if she was straight. Then, you could really play around with the idea of reversed gender roles.Like, consider a girl who grew up reading all of these heroic stories, which often end with the hero rescuing a princess and them living happily ever after. She, being naive or sheltered, believes these tales or at least thinks they're realistic. She figures that a girl hero rescuing a prince would also lead to the same result, and also concludes that with all these heroes rescuing princesses there must be some princes in need of rescuing.I feel like that just has more layers to it than what is seen here.
>>143318684See, my interpretation was for it to be more larger than life than that.Your version sounds like it has some character development that you feel is missing from the inspiration. But is otherwise mostly the same.My version is a tragedy that's so over the top it loops around to being comedic. Just a constant piling on of every possible humiliation that just makes you wonder what else the story can do to put her down.>Mary Sue barges onto the scene with the unspoken assumption that the story will always bend and warp to aggrandize her>The exact opposite happens>Every interaction leads to some sort of ego bruising; losing fights, getting told off, being overshadowed. >Her social status just keeps sinking until even little kids think they can push her around (they can)>The brash girlboss persona starts to feel more and more like a coping mechanism for insecurity, until you don't want to put her down anymore but want to protect her like she's your bratty little sister
>>143319368I think the lesbianity is very important to what makes this character work actually.She wants to come into a male dominated field (princess rescue) and show everyone how it's done.Her underlying fantasy is to cuck a chauvinist hero and take away his "prize", showing that women don't need any man.THAT'S why it's satisfying to see her get cucked by the hero herself.Maybe she could be bi, self identifying as lesbian out of that same complex.Then accepting a male love interest could hook into her arc of accepting to be the damsel sometimes.
>>143319368I mean at that point it's the same just straight, i feel that goes into the fact if her being was put so upfront you wouldn't notice. Just that oh she wants princesses not princes huh interesting vibe.I get your point though but then also you lose like half the plot and idea to a degree. I feel I referenced that in the Brea-Axe girls concept. She's like reverse Clara a tall muscular girl that's actually accomplished and strong but actually outside of fighting is sensitive and girly or at least wants to be viewed that way. Your idea is fun though albeit depressing because then you'd feel bad for her in a more genuine way where as with the way i feel we've slowly made Clara as a collective she's very foolish and naive but also a bit to arrogant/set in her ways so her failings are more cringefail with out all the hate of usual bitchy dyke protags.>>143319421Damn bro you would have loved the og star vs pitch kek. I do think these are hilarious concepts though also brought up the kid tier before when saying she's a jobber to slimesI do think we do that in some of the earlier parts and ideas but major thing was not feeling to mean spirited as we wanted her to be a character ya know. if you do it that way it makes us no different than the types that do the vice versa strawman with guys. Plus I feel while fun I like Clara both design wise and potential wise. But I mean if you like that most of my clara comics have that vibe as well I posted them somewhere above so I want a good mix of that. But my own idea so take with grain of salt was clara is super arrogant first arc or so slowly gets reality checks then gets a massive one like a season finale tier one where she genuinely almost dies or realizes how underleveled/outclassed she is for what she thinks she is. Basically ends up running for her life with the fear of god put into her, she still fails and has ego after some mental healing but I want her to be a character even if mostly like comic relief lol
>>143319513Ok A. this is fucking hilarious almost feel i need to draw this. B. yeah feel taking her being a dyke away kills part of the vibe, and fun of what she is the goal to me is to not be 100% be mean spirited. I feel we are a bit passed this point idea wise but could be a nice lil arc for her. Why I wanted to establish in their verse she's basically one of those types that wants to prove a point. Like that one lisa scene, but less bitchy. In my head Clara's a good girl but a dumbass and wants to prove herself and to all the people that didn't believe in her then joke is everyone is rooting for her kek. like she has a invisible strawman and doesn't realize he's standing right next to her plotting her failings Axel. Also her being unknowingly bi seems all but canon at this point lol.But yeah tons of fun ideas suddenly pretty epic, Also why do you all remind me of when I first wrote and drew the first kind of green/vis novel of the concept lol.
>>143319846side note the image I was referencing forgot to add it I feel I post this every thread at this point lol
>>143319513>>143319748>then you'd feel bad for her in a more genuine way>THAT'S why it's satisfying to see her get cucked by the hero herself.You're probably right since, with this idea, even if she does succeed, it's unlikely to go her way. If she does rescue a prince while grateful, he will probably be at least somewhat mortified, and his need to be saved by a girl could turn into an embarrassment for his whole family. And while the idea of a princess being married to the random guy who saved her is doubtful, the idea of a prince being married to the random girl who saved him is even more so. Then even if it does happen she'd probably be forced or at least compelled to drop the whole hero thing.So I can see how it'll lean less toward funny and more toward sad.
>>143319987Yeah I feel in my head though we'd tell a full story. It's why I created a supporting cast for her most of them do the fighting since she's mid to low tier kek. I say you are right though a princess may just get with a knight because of hero worship and being a form of nobility in themself and strong suitor. But a prince would never do that because well come on he'd more likely marry a princess or atleast a countess. I think both are good in their own route for me it's about the comedy as she grows and the funny situations she and her fellow characters get into because of her. But I feel if we were to genuinely make this a show/comic(not the intention realistically) it'd be one where it's rare to have fun without Clara around as she's the driving comedic relief while maybe the rest of the world is secretly bleak. Of course maybe I'm the only one that thinks of it outside of maybe a one or two comedic strip here or there. I've embraced my inner cringe and want to make a whole concept and series out of this just because bored and fun kek
>>143320215>a princess may just get with a knight because of hero worship and being a form of nobility in themself and strong suitor. >But a prince would never do that because well come on he'd more likely marry a princess or atleast a countess.What's the lore of this world exactly?Because my first instinct would be that female nobles would want to avoid marrying down because their title and the standard of living would match their partner's. But of course this isn't actual feudal times, and one can expect a lighthearted dungeonpunk setting to be slightly more emancipated. Even in our own world women earned inheritance rights hundreds of years ago and would keep some of the status of their birth family.But I think I can see your perspective on this. You're thinking of the fantasy town as analogous to, like, an 80's highschool, right?So a hero is a jock, and a prince or princess is a prep. Being a jock can get a guy social status and make him acceptable to date for a prep girl, but it's too traditionally masculine for a girl to get social status and won't make her equal to a prep boy.How many princes and princesses does this kingdom have exactly? Where do they hang out? Is getting kidnapped by villains a common occurrence?
>>143320434Eh I based off most other common fantasy trends, and old world lore where you know being a knight made you some level of nobility and after a few years you could become a lord as well. I actually do want the world to be emancipated of course if not only to make more of Clara's gripes seem childish and closeminded lol. But yeah In my head Knights are like adventurers and are a big deal because they fight evil factions and help keep the peace, and as another anon pitched so we could have tons of princesses just for meme material and adventure of week concept. It's a world with multiple forms of cultures and nobility most residing in the kingdom of light and a few others many nobles and royals have a multitude of kids and family. So we can just say their are so many princesses low on the rung they'd be willing to marry a knight (really hope the other anon/OP comes they'll explain it better cause I forgot most of it lowkey need a lore master dammit)Not really what I was thinking but a good way of partially summing it up, but more like in my head most girls aren't looking for a girl lol. Remember a joke from like the first thread of her being like the only lesbian in the world before the dungeonpunk thingkek. But really I think it's a mix as I think the world around her is progress but like in reality only like what 5% of girls are genuinely lesbians/bi? so odds of finding one in a already small subset i.e princesses is hard.I imagine a lot again let's let other anon tell it because his idea sounded best, and B. probably in their own little subsectors. Remember originally Axel was going to be Clara's prince i.e all knights were under some form of nobility and hers was Axel back when he was meant to win and it was more like a fucked porn parody kek. So maybe we can use elements from that or just say fuck it, but I do think it's a common occurrence since we've confirmed Sultr is the big bad of the dark kingdom maybe he's ransoming them.
Also since we've had a sudden influx, I'm about to start sketching some ideas(should be posted in next hour or so if not will have to finish tonight) but do send ideas soonish if not I'll probably draw my own thing lol
>>143302742I'd tone him down just a smidge. If these two are such extreme personalities then you need to round out the cast with a proper straight man who is just a normal functioning person. Hell, I'd argue both Axel and Clara would need their respective straight men. Some "came from nothing" for Axel and maybe Clara's ex-gf who also got isekai'd but just wants to be normal while Clara treats it like they're gonna have a "divorced couple reignite the spark" trope every time they meet
>>143320967I feel Clara is best as a virgin, with no experience adds to the comedy and love at first sight/romantic dawn of her mentality. But also I felt Axel is partially the straight man to Clara and Kitty trio, but feel they are one of those groups that either or can be the straight man but Clara rarely is.Also that guy isn't Axel(has no name currently) but he would be the straight man to the RoundTable Knights to a degree I see him as the creepy depressed doctor/mage but is one of the few that actually does his job. Also think we had two other straight man ideas one being a normal business man knight and other being the knight that gets the hero sword, he's a normal soldier average as they come but he's worthy of the sword be fun seeing Clara's reaction to some joe smoe that looks like her dad or something getting the sword that didn't choose her kek.
>>143320967Also actual recommendations on this because lowkey always interested in feedback even if I secretly want him to be a joke on edgy characters/my inner edgy teen coming out designing one character
>>143320671So to further flesh out the world: we have a couple of themes discussed ITT.>Real world parallels like moving to the big city to make it big, paying rent, and dating>Tons of minor nobility all over the place>A light vs dark struggle, without frontlines or armies, fought in terms of individual schemes and adventuresThe western lands were once a disparate patchwork of small rivalling city states. Each with their own unique quirks in biome and geography. However, they had to consolidate into one unified kingdom of light to stand against the encroaching power of darkness and its lord Sultr.These constituent states are now called principalities, their rulers princes and princesses.But they all swear allegiance to the mighty capital of the kingdom light, Luxnor, where the roundtable of Knights Examplar work together to safeguard peace in the realm.The peace is under threat by the dark king Sultr's spawn.They are a shadow threat, moving about the kingdom avoiding detection and trying to orchestrate the corruption of various principalities.They do this by kidnapping their leaders, summoning rampaging monsters, or cursing the citizens with dark magic. (It's not part of one big strategy, they're mostly trying to one-up each other to win their father's favor)The most powerful ones are boogeymen to the citizens of the kingdom of Light, but the minor ones can basically go around incognito.
>>143321740The capital fights these dark powers via gig work.Aspiring knights compete over missions. Successfully completing a mission earns one a monetary reward and makes it more likely to be assigned to a mission the next time. Luxnor has a magical crystal train that heroes can use to deploy to any principality for contained episodic adventures.The roundtable doesn't decide on the missions being awarded (though they do have influence), they are simply the highest ranked by the capital's hero administrations and fight the strongest foes.Knight careers typically involve accumulating feats, and a whole category of mission has been devised just to provide upstarts an opportunity to prove themselves. It would be very conceited for a rookie to ask to be responsible for a princess' rescue as their first mission.The world is full of prophecies and magical artefacts from some ancient forgotten age. They don't pertain to the current conflict in particular, but they can come into play in the careers of some special chosen ones. Like a sword that can only be pulled out of the giant's skull by a hero without fear.
>>143321320To me so far, the problem with Clara thus far is that she's little more than the other extreme of a lot of the characters she's making fun of without any positive traits which isn't the kind of character you'd want to see develop out of their flaws.Axel being her straight man doesn't work as well when the whole point is both of them are supposed to be overconfident assholes.
>>143321873I think Clara's redeeming traits are her drive and sincerity.She may be a blowhard, but she's almost never conniving or malicious.Also, while the status that comes with heroism is one of her main motivations I think we should show her having integrity on the matter and take the concept of heroism seriously. Kitty offers her a free ticket to being a badass using dark magic, but she refuses it, because she'd actually rather be a loser hero than a cool villain.
>>143321873Axel's flaw isn't being a overconfident asshole well it is but more like well that gets more into my lore-y ideas of what to do with Axel. But I feel their flaws are reverse but the same basically come from two different points. Imagine like this Clara is when ego comes from Wholesomeness and naivety and Axel is when ego comes from nihilism and pride. I saw them as lowkey needing each other.Also I feel her flaws make her fun and I think you are over thinking it as nothing about her is meant to be so aggressive. She's more just a dumbass but one with a heart of gold fool's gold kek, but she basically has dreams of grandeur and can't see the forest for the trees. So a slight deconstruction of the mary sue and modern dyke protagonist girl. I'll do key points cause I feel I'm all over lol.Clara so far(hope she sounds likeable or relateable but can always take in new ideas the whole point of the thread)>Clara is a commoner/farm girl>She's a bit like judy hopps has big dreams but just without the skills to reach them>She does have a ego but it's more being in her own head and in her own world>She loses a lot and has a certain level of stick-to-itiveness>She's fairly well meaning just naive and overly self absorbed usually to her own downfall>She's a friendly girl but like my lisa post she's the type to want a dragon to slay, but she usually looks dumb for it ex: "I'll be the first female knight" their are tons of female knights kek
>>143322152Okay so she's kind of like Natsuki Subaru in the earlier parts of Re:Zero. That sorta works. He was a similar deconstruction of the generic isekai gary stus you saw over in Japan at the time.
>>143322152I think actually including the Lisa football theme is a bit on the nose. Clara would know there are other female knights, she's not blind.The gender stuff is more like an underlying theme to her general bluster.>Kissing GIRLS I'm going to kiss ALL the GIRLS>You BOYS better get out of the way 'cause that sword is mine>Hold on princess, there's a cute GIRL coming to save you
>>143321740>>143321775Yeah sounds great anon this what these threads are about.I will say we could have a war like WoW where their are genuine frontlines but they are small little battles that span across centuries and mostly both sides are at peace besides as you said schemes and adventures. Also could give Roundtable more relevancy as basically they are the light sides WMD which keeps Sultr from just coming to wreck house.Lol had to look up principalities but you are really weaving something bro. Also yeah loving what you are putting down do wonder how many spawn he has like I feel might as well go high because then makes them more of a threat. Also say they should be more than the RoundTable's number of knights to really make it seem like a losing battle like if we have 12 roundtable members their should be like 24 sultr kids. Just a idea also another Idea think we talked on it last thread but maybe one of the main reason sultr is fearful of the knights and kingdom is because their used to be heroes basically mary sues with tons of op powers and blessings. He knows it'll take one of them to kill him so just in case he's doing the long game. Also we did discuss potential gods or lack there of and Sultr being one himself just spitballing kek. Making me feel dumb with this masterclass you've made here.>>143321775I like this bro really went full dungeonpunk, also yeah I was thinking more typical adventurer guild mission boards but like this as well. feel we could do a mix where you have the quest given to you almost like a rank up quest/official one and the you have one off ones meant to just be a solo adventure like killing goblins for a small village.also this idea plays into that one thing we talked on about Clara swapping her and Axel's quest thinking she's ready and maybe it was a serious mission to monitor a more monstrous Sultr spawn.sorry if you aren't OP just assume lol
>>143322039Yeah sounds about right and hilarious, imagine right after she jobs to more slimes. But Kitty respects it and swoons more over her little hero.>>143322314Actually yeah exactly, good ref anon. Man rezero is so fucking good. But yeah she would be like Subaru super good but more for a bit of the wrong reasons at time and super not the best but thinks they are.>>143322397Heh true more just a great ref also playing with the whole idea of the feminist/strong girl first but actually their have been thousands of them lol.but you make a good point. so she's fem mineta lol
>>143322152>>143322397There's a bit of a meta aspect to this dynamic.Clara HERSELF is not a malicious or petty person. But the fantasy she keeps projecting onto her life DOES have a vindictive twang to it. As said before, the hero she aspires to be is one that cucks the "traditional" hero and girlbosses the whole setting to revolve around her.Because she's raised on exactly the kind of stories this one subverts. Ones were lesbian quirky girls break the mold.It's not that she gravitated towards putting others down, it's just the image of heroism that has been presented to her.>CLARA: Oh, 'the deeds that made the kingdom'? I loved that book as a kid. I remember all the twelve works the hero Valiant did to prepare for the fight, my moms used to read it to me every day. They'd always change the ending so the princess defeats the dragon herself though. Just for me.>AXEL: They changed the ending? But the princess didn't do the twelve works though, she didn't prepare.>CLARA: Yeah but it's a better ending, it's empowering.>AXEL: I guess I see why you tried to go straight for the highest level mission...>CLARA: Huh? What d'you mean?>AXEL: ...Never mind.
>>143322397This is exactly what makes Kitty hilarious>hey hero, don’t you know those princess don’t care? They’re straight, looking for a prince, and they’ll never love you… ever>why don’t you come over to the dark side and let me show you what a REAL princess’s love looks like
>>143322501I'm not OP, just musing on the internal logic of the setting.If we're still using the original concept art, then the city of light is a big crystal art deco metropolis.How do you go from there to slaying goblins in the woods?I figure the scale is too big for local quest boards.Plus, being able to hop from town to town offers more opportunity for different kinds of adventure.
>>143323149Goblins are like Skaven and live underneath the city also it could be funny if Clara was failing to fight the fantasy equivalent of Central Park wildlife
>>143322735She wants to be ntr chad is ntr beta kek, also yeah this is really the best way to explain her. Not even 100% assholish like someone in the real world more childish hero daydreaming plus naivety. She wants to be HER so bad but she's just another run of the mill.kek this seems like a canon interaction, also fits the way her parents were set up being unintentional enablers. actually less enablers more just supportive but now that she's finally there she can't let them see she's not cut out for being a knight or struggling as it shows both sides. Her ego about wanting to prove everyone wrong and be a real knight, also her wholesome side that hates her parents worked so hard to put her through the knight academy and buy her all the supplies and armor and they basically will be useless if she loses them or fails.>>143323057>She says as she opens her legs ready for landingYeah we need more kitty lore and ideas but definitely dropping some great stuff anons don't know if all the same or multiple.
>>143323149I imagine like we said Clara is from a smaller town/village. I think your idea works well i was thinking like Hunger games where the main city is super nice and the villages can go from more dungeonpunk to more basic small rural village that's where i imagine Clara's from. Also makes sense actually and is a great idea I know I wanted their to be multiple Biomes throughout all the kingdom. imagine it opens for multiple different races and culture since going Rpg thing. i'd be interested in your opinion on a power system we've had a few debates about it, 1 for more basic rpg style, another for multiple skills and magics like more dnd esque and another for a mix with people having unique power or skills(i liked this since it opens for more unique battles and versatility with knights/characters) makes me want to see if I could draw this but I rarely do backgrounds and landscapes. Also some great ideas though anon.>>143323316Ha don't even know what that is but sounds fun, also yeah sounds about right she thinks she did a hard mission and it's the equivalent of the rookie lay up even some of villagers and kids can do it themselves lol
>>143323598The fun and interesting part when it comes to Kitty is the she is basically the other option when it comes to Clara’s ntr fantasies and is in a way the wrong answer to Clara Clara wants to be HER, while Kitty wants Clara to be HERS
>>143322734What I'd recommend then is rewatching early re:zero up to the Rem arc because early Subaru was a very careful balancing act between cringe and endearing. Rem arc is definitely when we all started saying "okay this guy is actually pretty awesome" but you see how early Subaru became that
>>143323906>episode where Clara sees a bunch of visions of potential futures for herself >one is of her in a dark princess dress and tiara happily married to Kitty >Clara realizes that if she marries a princess… she becomes a princess
>>143323906Heh sounds interesting but think i've gotten confused a bit lol. also sounds about right Clara wants a princess and Kitty is one but she's also the easy option and heroes don't do things the easy way.>>143323991Oh I know bro subaru and re zero is one of my fave series even read the novel at one point though haven't caught up in a while. I hate how when I first watched it I sided with subaru when he was in fact being cringe, also that one scene with him between the real knight was so brutal and i feel that scene also was when most people stopped liking main girl and preferred Rem and that's a convo for another day lol.But definitely see where you are coming from though I feel she'd be more cringe and endearing because she's a bit pathetic and we all know what it's like to have a big dream and not really have the skill or know how to capture it.
>>143324094>In reality Kitty used a Night Hag to slowly make Clara think it was her own idea and desire. also like the idea clara realizes she'd become a princess partially ruining her princess getting plans for half a second before her autismo pushes logic out her head.
>>143324094>Clara realizes that if she marries a princess… she becomes a princesshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-7XxrbzCmM
>>143325197Huh never knew that sting was from ren and stimpy originally
Man early threads were a lot hornier, do you guys think we should keep a lil horny in the concept as well like the bikini armor arc thing?
>>143325907Think it's just because we got fixated on the lore, I definitely think the horny needs to make a comeback. Part of the appeal was her being humiliated in ways that could still seem funny even if you could tell it was sexual.
>>143325930Hmmmmm I do like my lore but not wrong either. Happy to see so much lore and interest the one lore anon above made some great ideas. But I'm a bit bad at lewd ideas outside of straight sexo but I did do the whole green with the art hear and there about her getting humbled and bikini armor that's the peak of my innuendo ideas lol. I did do those lewd and slimed meme thing.Think these are my only two full on lewd ones and both are from the first thread.>https://files.catbox.moe/5er1f8.png>https://files.catbox.moe/vcunnq.png
>>143326011Yeah it's a bit difficult to really find scenarios that don't just involve straight-up cuckqueaning her, like making her sit in the corner while Axel fucks a princess she liked in her bed so he'll pay rent kek.
Clara should smile more
>>143326745Jesus christ, but you aren't wrong Clara would need better scenes I suppose. Though you'd never want to go horny over lore then you are just making a eechi or porn parody kek. Also that's pretty brute, not even let me fuck your gf or you are evicted. No no implies he pulls the girl she couldn't anyway then makes her watch lol
>>143326745>>143327509>I'll pay you in exposure
>>143328278Ha wait I don't get it?
>>143326745>Beginning of the episode>Clara wakes up in her way too expensive penthouse apartment to a crowd cheering>"Axel! Axel! Ax-el!">He's done another one of his heroic deeds that keep happening in the background>CLARA: I'm so sick of people chanting that jerk's name. I can't wait to make it big and steal his fans. Especially the... Mmm... fangirls...>Before she can get too comfortable there is a knock on the door>She is confronted by the landlord- some fantasy colored humanoid race that does all the NPC jobs in Luxnor- that she's three months behind on rent for the three months she's been living there. He's about to kick her out.>CLARA: that's all right, I just need the hero office to finally get me a mission that'll pay something >There's a whole scene where she gets a clerk to give her a chance on a big mission just because her confidence is so infectious>She has to prevent a flood of slimes from taking over a castle>Long story short she fails but captures some dignity at the end>The castle is lost, but its princess has become sympathetic to Clara over the course of the string of failures and even gives her a kiss in the cheek for her bravery>Clara offers to let her stay at her place while the city finds her replacement accommodations fit for her station>However, they come home to an eviction notice>Clara failed the mission so she doesn't have reward money to pay the back rent>AXEL: are you two fine young ladies in trouble? Of course my door is always open if you want to spend the night.>PRINCESS: oh my stars, are you THE hero Axel? This is such an honor!>Cut to Clara on his couch, holding back tears as the princess is in the bedroom shouting "Axel! Axel! Ax-el!" as a call back to the start of the episode
>>143328278Wait new artist anon? hope you decide to make some stuff bro.
>>143328278Kek I was just putting an idea out there really.
>>143329072and it was a good idea anon even if a bit subtly dark lol
>>143328757This shit is gold.
>>143323862I think battles and how they're fought isn't a big focus for this premise.Personally I'm a total slut for hard magic systems, where the character has a way to actually impress the audience by creatively applying their ability. But I don't think this is the kind of story where the turning point in a conflict comes from the hero becoming a better fighter, or gaining a new technique or whatever.It's ultimately about relationships and self image.I think in terms of power system there's strong guys and weak guys and they're either knightly or witchy.Magic swords glow and do more damage, magic spells are plot devices and almost exclusively used by villains.
>>143321775Did a lil sketch set of this train concept plan to do one of Clara's village next and maybe kitty's castle.
>>143328757Heh noooooooooo, also i like that while a bit mean spirited most people are kind to Clara just her own incompetence and Axel that fucks her over which is about in line kek. Also i think Clara likes Axel I always saw him as the nick to her judy but more because of his public face she thinks he's the bee's knees and a bit of hero worship. I also based it on how girls will go to someplace like cali or nyc and meet a total asshole/fake bastard and never see through it because he gives them a few compliments and does what they want like modeling or singing/etc.But this was a great green anon, so happy the thread has picked up so much so we can get some kino like this.>also *cough second part of thumbnail train set
>>143329746Whoa Whoa now anon! battles are always a priority also idk I feel anime does that well where they can tell a comedic plot but have that genuineness and battles. Of course main thing was we were doing a mix of fixing and using what we had but as a anon said somewhere above we are treating it like a mix of a DTV show and our own thing. So like how most of owl house and amphibia are comedic but have good fights and soft magic systems. I feel this is the same as the main plot is she's a knight so she and others must do knight stuff lol.Ha I do like your concept here anon, but yeah Idk about others but I've got to disagree. I just hate boring stuff like that fun and I just prefer good lore and fights with the idea as without it how would Clara develop. Also the whole thing about the turning point is exactly how I see It i've already got some Backstory and fight/plot ideas like that myself. But that's a different story for a different day and I do think the end goal is how does Clara go from a farm girl naive mary sue to a developed humble girl that will help beat sultr the big bad though I feel the biggest thing is she isn't going to suddenly anime/cartoon mc power up to being sultr tier either lol>Final part of train set
>>143329936I think Clara and Axel need to learn to like each other.Their first encounter he's the conceited asshole that we assume is obviously going to be served a piece of humble pie.Then he becomes the Gary to her Ash, a rival that keeps showing her up but still definitely a peer.Eventually Clara's whole dream falls apart and he becomes a symbol of everything she thought was going to be but can't. At this point the resentment is very strong.I'm thinking after she loses her apartment she ends up crashing on his couch long-term, and through exposure they learn to kind of tolerate each other. Seeing the person behind the symbol.Meanwhile, from Axel's perspective, she's the only person he knows that doesn't worship him so he interprets it as intense disrespect. On top of that she ends up mooching off him, which gets in the way of him pulling tail.It can get into a funny single-dad parallel.>You wouldn't have gotten stuck with this responsibility if it hadn't been for your constant philandering.>Now you've got to step up and care for this person, even if it gets in the way of your carefree lifestyle.So he's not too thrilled about her either at first. But she's the only woman that he has around for longer than one night, so without noticing he becomes attached to her as a constant in his life.
>>143328757Anon you replied to, solid stuff! Love all the little bits of extra flavor you threw in like the landlord, and I especially love how you handled the princess. Giving her that slight glimmer of hope that things'll be different, only to comedically dash it all. Love the callback too, extra insult to injury.
>>143330191This is a cool interpretation but i feel it'd be the inverse as the other way kind of loses focus of what he was made for. He's a secret asshole not so aggressively in her face about it. This way she'd be the dick instead of him being that secret fuckboi, who enjoys messing with her and plans to make her his.I do like the idea of them being rivals though 90% of that is all in Clara's head kek. But yeah overall one of the OG concepts is Axel is like her first friend because he's the type of character I see everyone likes and thinks is their friend but he's also a secret scumbag. Her crashing on his couch is a fun idea lowkey, though Idk how that'd work with him bringing home so many fluzies though guess it'd be that one scene from invincible.Ok anon you are a laugh riot not single dad Axel but I kind of see him giving that vibe if we keep the trio as is with Kitty and Clara as really Axel would be the only one that understands social cues even if he's faking it to be popular. Also I still prefer the og interpretation but this is fun maybe instead of this being the whole thing we can do this as like the first interaction/ep or so. >Like Axel meets Clara> She doesn't like him much and he's a bit apathetic>He hears about her plight and nature>They go on a quest so she can get some cash for her dwindling funds and rent>She's a bit foolhardy and treats him like a rival the whole time>Then after hours of drudging through a low tier quest together>He slays the beast easily completely shattering Clara's perceptions of their relationship>Then villages realize who he is and sing his praises >Suddenly Clara has blinders on that make everything Axel does cool and hero worship worthyCould be a good play on how naive and childish she is her flipping from seeing him as potential rival to her hero(totally professionally of course)
>>143330164meant to reply to you anon lol>>143330410
>>143329862>>143329936>>143329988Meant to say it earlier but I absolutely adore these pics, love the sense of perspective you can pic up on so readily in the last two especially. I commend you for your efforts, drawfriend!
>>143329988Love the train set as well.In terms of power system, I still believe too much explaining would drag down the story. But it could be a consistent lore in the background that nerds can immerse themselves in.So let's establish what we want to achieve:>Hero story clichés like chosen ones, prophecies, and weapons that can only be wielded by the worthy, but they don't only happen to main characters. Getting a special destiny is actually a common milestone on a hero's career.>Heroes have to pursue their goals directly (travelling to the location, confronting a foe personally)>Villains get to set things in motion (summoning minions, cursing a kingdom)Based on those criteria, this what I would come up with.>In the antediluvian past, these lands were home to immortal giants.>These giants had the inherent, inborn ability to instill objects their create with special properties.>They created the special artefacts. Weapons and tools that can do things like produce lightning as thunderclouds can, freeze water like the winter cold, or shed light like the sun. An actual part of nature is stored within the tool.>In order to prevent abuse, they also instilled properties of character judging in their creations. So the legendary hero's sword can not be lifted by someone with fear in their heart, the floating castle shuts its door to anyone that wants to take its treasures, etc.>In the modern day, every principality has some local prophecy. A sword that one day will be lifted from the stone, a cave that will open to a true love's kiss, etc.>Sore losers in the knight ranking tend to believe the successful ones were just lucky landing a magic artefact, but the truth is only the worthy can wield them and their wielders have worked hard to become worthy.>Sultr is the last descendent of the giant race, and his offspring have inherited a watered down version of his power.>Their imbuements are thematically linked to their other ancestry. Used at will, no training
Does Clara have a last name?
>>143330797thanks anon yeah that's also about the order I did them in really lol. I got a bit more confident in the last few. Also tried to tell a bit of a story through bg art I love shit like that with maybe this being like how clara first came to Luxnor the Capital of the Kingdom of light.Def want to do a few more gonna try and do them maybe a bit more defined but have like no BG experience really so thumbnails with light shading is for the best. Thinking of some ideas to play with.>>143331478Oh wow thanks bro, happy you guys liked them tried my best kind of used blue just been trying different colors for more sketches/giving different effects.Hmm interesting I mean see that's why I said basic everyone has special skill because then boom easy. but i still like magic. Maybe we mix all three and do other anons idea of>magic>spirit>divine/darkSimple but useful and won't need a shit ton of explaining also do two types of magic (high level and low level) or maybe swap low level for spirit skills. So it explains how someone Axel's height and build could cut through a building size dragons head and others like Clara don't get one shotted by a poodle kek.
>>143332565So long had to part 2 it kekDamn lore anon, you are always going full ass my guy good stuff. So much pageantry in your words as well. I lowkey love this idea and could kind of go in tandem with above to a degree. Especially the sultr thing, I know one idea pitched was he was a god himself or my fave was he was a hero. I used heroes as kind of a play on mary sues in my head basically being entities that defied the laws of the world, but now the age of heroes long gone but some still are called heroes even if they don't fit the original criteria. Maybe it's a arms race to get artefacts to make a new real hero that could slay sultr. Another idea of mine was Axel is actually from one of the hero bloodlines but he's not a hero and similar to your idea mine was Axel family had a unique connection with the goddess of light and basically they for generations were giving some of their remnant energy from the original hero to amass light power that was then used to make weapons for the endless war of light and dark. Just a backstory for another reason why Axel maybe what Clara wants to be from a chosen bloodline but he hates it as you are compared to someone that was a mary sue like "Oh at three the original hero killed his first goblin" and how something like that could make Axel a jaded person who's super fake as his family is almost like their worlds Catholic church or some level of nobility with divine origin/connection though it's been severed for years.also yeah any image refs or ideas always open too bros, I very much love doing these drawings and fleshing out concepts. The train wasn't my idea but i loved it so much I had to give it a chance. Tried to imply it's like a train and a adventure/knight guild with a pub and basically almost like RWBY you get podded off as a knight when it's your stop/mission. Can't stop since most missions would be like oh in the Long quiet Forest or Mountains of madness lol.
Finished another Bg sketch this time of Kitty's castle. I enjoyed this one as well fun concept to play with.
>>143332565Oh wait it was you lmao, thought another one had come in, the blue you were using to distinguish points of focus threw me off a bit. Did an amazing job, man! Also I think that works really well, would give people a nice sampling of what Luxnor has to offer once we get a full shot of it! Wonder if any of her family even saw her off beforehand, given she was a bit of a liability on the farm kek.That's fair, and I think you did a great job for someone with no experience. Second one's probably the best showcase of that, so much stuff going on but it has a great sense of depth. Curious to see what you have in mind too! Been a busy so I haven't been as tied to the thread as I'd hoped to be.
>>143334764Kek my dumbass didn't notice this one, definitely like the more Dracula-esque approach, at least from what elements I can glean just from the silhouette. Mix of a traditional castle and a manor I take it?
This is mean-spirited
>>143330410Clara seething over Axel is the juicy part, let's not rush the character development too much, lol.Clara becoming one of the groupies is also not such a fun turn for her character imo, when her main thing is being spunky.>>143335467Yes. But in theory it should have heart.It's about laughing at a brat getting humiliated, but in the end you should still be rooting for her.
>>143335268Huh wait it's me? also yeah nah never leave really lol how'd I throw you off? Ah yeah just trying new stuff mostly failing kek. Also were you the anon that made that green bro?But yeah good thing about Luxnor it's already got real and good BG art of it lol. Heh speaking of farms also I think she was a decent farm hand but I imagine it being depressing like most rural kids with dreams of the city the farm and country life sucks to them. But she's a born and raise farm girl she at least has that skill tree maxed out much to her chagrinIt's cool just happy we got all this good stuff, though I am sad goblin anon didn't make it. Also hey not no experience but very little I used to do water colors but mostly just studies and 1 for 1s here I'm trying to build something of my own. But I might try and do a more serious one before the thread ends. But want to go back to characters after this last set fun but still want to be versatile. Thanks though happy everyone has such kind words >>143335296Yeah basically I used more fantasy mansion vibes and then Castlevania as a inspiration in the back of my head. Also couldn't think of what her place would look like then remembered my kitty fashion thing and her looking like a vampire and said oh yeah that'll work kek. So feel like this is my fave and best one for now.>also Clara's village BG sketch
>>143336009I was just spitballing, I always stick to the og concept from the first thread and my first shitty sketch of Axel kek. I think it's definitely a bit fangirling but more in her own way of damn I wish I was him. Also that Axel is a fuckboi pick up artist he easy knows how to get into the new girls pants but Clara has the ultimate defense being a lesbian also spunky and naive to the point of obliviousness. So she just thinks he's her best friend and probably only real friend as he feeds her delusions and messes with her subtly.I think that's the best way to sum it up but I feel Clara is barely a brat she's more a idiot nuance with a minor ego. But she probably is at her peak brat in the super begin being the upstart that thinks she can do anything and is the Goddess' gift to Luxnor lol.>also more Clara now Clara farm girl
>Clara attempts to open her Krampusnacht presentshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3ipt9HoQeY
>>143336557God I love that ep and scene also idk what a krampusnacht is but poor Clara. Also I just imagine a goblin is the one that does the people's elbow on her.
>>143336823https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krampus>Christmas Special>Luxnor celebrates Krampusnacht>the night the demon Krampus visits houses to deliver presents to the good >and humiliating beatings to the bad>Clara spends all episode shitting on the tradition>"lol parents just tell that to dumb kids to make them behave!">think Jimmy Neutron levels of annoying>Axel challenges her and Clara rises to the bait>believes she can catch the Krampus if she stays awake all night>she does (complete with childish blanket fort stakeout tent)>fails miserably>wakes up to find she's slept through the holiday and missed all the fun>starts crying>Axel's like "don't worry we saved you a gift">Clara hugs him "thankyouthankyouthankyou!">rips open huge present>it's the fucking Krampus and he's packin' a bird rod>Clara gets her ass switched raw while everyone else laughs
>>143267317I have seen these threads before. Pretty intetesting. Reminds me of the Stargaze threads, the threads about /co/ making an 80s cartoon, and the old Stella and the Metal Men threads.Has there been a few short stories made about this yet?
>>143337202Ha this is pretty hilarious lol, love how Clara is slowly just getting abused poor thing. But yeah I feel she'd more likely be filled with child like wonder I feel Axel would be for once the rare loser in this one I see him hating the holiday kek. But great stuff anon I love all your greens so far
>>143337931I think closest is the greens and the original long green that set up Axel and Clara relationship. Never checked out those two threads before myself. Really happy so many people are interested in the thread and concept
>>143336426I was meaning we started these threads kek, and it was just I'm not used to seeing you use more vibrant colors in your stuff is all, plus I was tired. Nah that ain't me, sorry.Yeah there's a decent groundwork we can build upon to set the stage, would make for a nice contrast with how it is at ground level. Fair, always pining for what's just out of reach, and what a shame some of that either can't come in handy here or she refuses to adapt techniques she used there.Hopefully he's just running a bit late, schedule's probably just as fucked as ours can be. Had a feeling it was exaggeration but still, and that sounds doable, though I get wanting to shift back to character-focused pics. Yeah Castlevania was the big thing that came to mind, and it makes sense given they wear their inspo on their sleeves too so it all works out. Helluva mood piece for sure.Like it, looks cozy even at this stage. Would definitely make you wonder why she'd ever want to leave lmao.
>>143338358Ah nothing wrong with it lol, also yeah just trying new things. Oh yeah by the way what's your opinion on lore anons stuff? I imagine it never does except when maybe she has to beat a beast with a pitchfork or scythe. Ha nothing serious he's probably just chilling or maybe is busy. I just wanted him to be able to show off his art knowing most would be interested since we're a fantasy rpg vibe here anyway lol. Thanks yeah i don't have any ideas right now may just design another character or something or maybe try and draw one of the comic ideas.Thank you tried to portray what it'll look like for a poor non clara party going to battle Kitty. Poor bastards they'd be scared to death and then get merc'd. I feel it's the whole thing of wanting to be more at life, another reason I say imagine if we do keep the Axel is related to a past hero thing that'd eat her up inside, that's like the mary sue hero autism dream being small girl from common beginnings but being related to the OP hero.
>>143339013Since heroes come from both epic lineage and absolutely nothing, what if one of Clara’s ancestors was a minor hero who had a couple victories but nothing major. That way her bloodline is not significant enough to have a proper story but also not so insignificant for destiny to pick her… or maybe she’s descended from a villain
>>143339486>spoiler Personally I always thought that Clara should have a natural talent for being a dark enchantress. The traditional evil witch in the sensual black dress with a big hat and wand. However, because she’s so obsessed with being a knight, she absolutely refuses to ever go down this path, refusing to ever touch dark magic despite how easily it comes to her
>>143339486But then that could give her some demon power up lol also techincally assumed only Sultr is a villian which would make her x kitty wincest?I assume destiny doesn't really pick you but more you pick yourself or prove yourself to a degree. Plus prefer her being a nobody as it makes her a opposite to Axel who even if not those two lore ideas he'd still have some level of nobility or nepo vibes in my opinion
>>143339556That's pretty funny actually love the idea of her just being a dumbass about it. Maybe she'll be a Magic knight build to compensate for her weak build and horrible fighting ability.
>>143339653>Clara finds a magic mirror that reveals a person’s true potential >Axel stands before it revealing a strong traditional knight in shining armor>Clara stands before it expecting the same >the mirror instead reveals a sexy witch holding a twisted iron stave topped with a carved wolf head whose eyes crackle with dark energies >Clara screams and swings her sword at the mirror >it doesn’t even dent
>>143339736Heh you guys do come up with some fun greens, though almost be funnier if she was a housewife or princess. But her secretly having potential for dark magic is fun I actually always thought she'd secretly fit holy magic because of her hopeful naivety and she's just to weak and fool hardy to learn it as most are just born with a natural talent for it or not.
Gonna do some more sketches later on, any request or refs? I might try and design a new character if no one has nothing, but probably just going to do some more character sketches lol may try one of the greens
>>143340473The Krampus and mirror greens look fun
>>143339013Innovation's always a welcome sight, especially with a developing idea like this, broadening our horizons. Overall seems solid from what I've read so far, admittedly still in the process of reading it kek. Sucker for deep time and primordial beings so I'm already a bit sold on it. The premise of all the cool main character stuff happening to someone else still hits really hard too.Would be funny to see her absolutely clean house but then realize she wasn't wielding her sword and drop it in disgust. My thoughts exactly, plus the thread's not even halfway over yet so there's still time for him to pop in. Not really sure who else we could design here aside from maybe a rogue of some sort.Definitely set the "you're fucked" tone kek, probably won't even make it to the foyer without at least one of them getting picked off. Oh this would definitely add to it, her wanting to be the underdog, the hero that goes the distance only to have the position seemingly filled by someone who was born into it. Mirrors a lot of the privilege stuff you hear people like her creator spouting.
>>143341365My vote's on the mirror one, but seeing Clara literally getting her ass whipped would be fun too.
>>143341365true but I don't trust myself with a monster lowkey lol, but mirror green is fun one.>>143343134Poor Clara has become the threads whipping boy kek.
>>143343807So it seems kek, though it seems people don't mind that much.
>>143343807People like seeing her whipped in multiple ways
>>143340473>>143341365>>143343134Leave poor clara alone you bullies, But yeah I've done the Mirror green krampus felt too long and plotting it would have been just too much. Even this one took about a hour, maybe if we keep this up til christmas I'll do a christmas special lol.Hope you guys enjoy, I'm pooped hopefully will do more tomorrow bros. May draw more of my nameless boi knight(Someone please give this poor boy a name) or think of more round table members lol. But really gonna try and stick to pin ups unless theirs a really good green. Just remember I wanted to do the Clara cuck green but alas that'll have to be another thread most likely I'm comic'd out two in one thread might be my limit kek
>>143345201Here's the future clara as a pin up, love how I said I'd rest process to do a light touch up on the pin up in the comic. Really love this witch design might design a new character who uses it be a waste to lose it but if you guys don't like it i could scrap it for a better one
>>143342282Yeah true i do like all the new ideas even if I may not agree with them all or have differing ideas. It's what threads like this are for getting tons of different perspective and ideas across. Yep lore anon is pretty based I still liked your idea about the Gods as well but immortal long dead giants sounds insane and epic. Also think we had a similar Idea I still stand by my thing that all the heroes from the hero age were mary sues that were broken asf, now the new gen can't compete now that it's been ages since a real hero has been born. also feel we can mix it so to compete they must use old legacies and destiny of long past heroes saints and warriors to be able to keep up the line against the dark forces but with every generation that power and light dwindles. Why in my head this song started playing as I thought about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKWqw5XMXuU&pp=ygUWZGFyayBzb3VscyAzIGp0IG11c2ljIA%3D%3DHa sounds about right she's at the brink of life or death and has to Lock in, but after the shock and adrenaline fades she realizes she was using a farm tool. True lol, but don't want to force him just felt a kindred spirit like probably a few years ago though I was 1000x worse I'd never be posting my art like this even with what I can do now I just hate not being perfect but at some point you realize not doing anything is worse lol. Oh you silly fool I've got many ideas also probably time to design more sultr spawn and maybe we could do a family tree next.Yep kek and then unlike Clara most of the men and girls are willing to submit to Kitty for mercy and her charms. Ha truewe should play with how being related to a hero would suck. Explains why Axel is how he is also in my head to get more of his families powers you have to be pious. Also I had a idea for axel backstory and how he got his scar and why he is how he is I even semi came up with a sultr kid for the idea.
>>143344260I've notice poor thing, but it seems lighter so it's cool. I just don't want her to become a over the top hateable dyke like someone pitched in the first thread. Then it's no fun to me as I feel that's overdone and just gets into schizo strawmanning.>>143344794Truly so like that one Magi pic which is crazy that was long before these threads so seems people wanted to bully her even after their first look lol.
>>143345201>>143345351These look amazing anon. Also why can’t we have Clara sometimes turn into the witch via artifact/potion/hypnosis/plot device
>>143345501Ha maybe but I'd rather a character that's usable regularly also kind of ruins her getting strong as a knight base self improvement vibes. Also her ego is too huge to allow herself to become this also for me it's more about the outfit lol. But could be like her drunken fist like rock lee and other characters. Question is would kitty like or hate this form/future?
>>143345803>spoiler I thought the witch was from the timeline where she gave up and married the only princess who truly loved her
>>143345826Didn't write it so I don't know we'll have to ask the green anon when he gets back but yeah idk. Part of me feels like Kitty will see Dark Clara as mommy, but then another part of me feels like she likes clara being a good person and wholesome and naive girl. So her being a dark magic user and so mature and lewd would ruin it for her, she wants her to stay her little knight like the girl from Overlord.
>>143345892I could see both honestly, though no matter which path she chooses I think Kitty just wants Clara to accept the princess tiara and become her little wife
>>143345201>>143345351Did an amazing job as always! Think you captured her mirror form perfectly honestly, love how you always give talking magic artifacts the same temperament they usually expect from boomers. They're literally too old for this shit.It's completely understandable man, you've done a great service for the thread as-is honestly!>>143345476Yeah pulling from as many people as we can and ironing out what works so it fits with what we have so far. Either way I'm just happy there's some deep lore developing, primordial beings might work better in all honesty, western cartoon creators still aren't bold enough to put gods in the traditional sense in...or can't due to censors, either/or. Yeah we did when we were spitballing the enchanted sword idea, and that honestly works. Probably makes Clara think she could bring back those glory days in her own way, and yeah that honestly works, both your setup for their decline and the song.Answer's practically staring her in the face on how she can course correct and yet she refuses to acknowledge it. Fair, he'll likely post when he's good and ready if he hasn't moved on, and good point there. Kek, and that sounds like a good move to me on both parts, excited to see if you do the family tree especially, always a sucker for pedigree.Maybe that's what drew Kitty to her in the first place, that unusual attitude of hers. Him lacking that drive seems pretty accurate to those born into power so it works kek. Curiosity's been piqued so I'm interested to see where that idea goes.
>Kitty: just give it a thought Clara it’s practically written >Clara: you’re wrong! I’m a hero, a knight! I’ll never become like you! >Kitty: oh really now? Are you sure? >Clara: of course I am! I’M A KNIGHT! I fight for PEACE! JUSTICE! And KISSING EVERY GIRL! >Kitty: and how’s that worked out for ya? >Clara: huh >Kitty conjures up an illusion of Clara’s past on the farm and in the academy >Kitty: think about it, you’ve been working your butt off for years, rising up from nothing to become a true knight, and even after all of that you haven’t gotten a single shred of respect. >Clara: I I…>Kitty: they laughed at you! Mocked you! Stole the armor your parents worked so hard to buy! >the image shifts to show Clara naked after her bet with Axel, shadow’s laughing at her. >Kitty: and then when you had nothing, he bought you bikini armor. Reduced you to nothing but a pretty face to parade around. >Clara: no! No, he’s a hero he wouldn’t do that! And he bought me more armor… eventually. >Kitty: ohohoho>Clara: what’s so funny!>Kitty: oh my poor little darling, Axel didn’t buy you that new armor. I did >Clara: what? But then the armor that I’m wearing>Kitty: a token of my love. A gift from the only princess who will ever truly care. >Clara looks down at her own armor, a conflicted expression upon her face >Clara: but if Axel didn’t buy the armor then >Kitty: his plan was to leave you as his eye candy forever >Clara starts to tear up as Kitty lunges forward, wrapping her arms around Clara’s form.>Kitty: oh sweetie I’m so sorry. I know it hurts but you really needed to know >Clara: why? Why are you >Kitty places a finger on her lips, silencing the knight >Kitty: because this is your origin darling. And I want to help you get your revenge >Clara: why >Kitty smiles >Kitty: because I love you
The Kitty love is pretty based
>>143346140Not the tiara lol, but yeah sounds about right. Now see her having that omni man talk with her kid "Clara's more like a pet" kek. But you definitely aren't wrong I still believe it comes more from a place of respect and attraction so part of it is her stick-to-itiveness>>143346973Happy you enjoyed it, Hey he's from a different time anon, back in his day girls were princesses and boys were heroes lol. I also feel it's a mix of it all though they were made for real heroes and have no time for Clara's nonsense feel if she had more potential he'd be more caring or kiss her ass a bit more sense all artifacts want to be used by a hero/champion.Sounds about right honestly and best way to do it. True they used to be though I mean look at some early cartoons and series also that new YJ put it in. But don't forget our goal is to do it better kek so let's not stifle ourselves to much as if we are really turning this into a cartoon. Heh Clara thinks her mary sueness makes her a second coming of a hero it just makes her annoying. Yeah also adds a lingering/background vibe of this being a secret last stand Sultr kids are all fully grown and he has more than ever, the age of heroes has long past and that makes the war harder to keep balanced.True like I said no big deal, just wanted to see it sounded really fun but alas everyone takes their time. Hope he didn't feel like I was forcing him. I also agree she basically could try something a bit differently but she refuses to grow sadly she's set in her ways. Really I'd hate to do the family tree all by myself as being a draw anon A. it'll make it feel canon just because I drew it lol B. no fun without hearing other perspectives. C. always easier with concepts and design ideas like your help with Axel and lore anon with concept bgs.Yeah 100% she likes her for her heroic nature and unwilling to submit will. I'll drop it later not enough space here lol, but I feel he used to be motivated but things happened.
>>143347393Wow great stuff anon kitty going in for the kill here. Such a fun green, also he did do all that too. I could see Axel rebutting the whole kitty likes to watch Clara fail and is a sadist in her own right.>Picrel>Axel: This fucking bitch
Think this is the last from my archive of mary sue gets a clue well besides two really bad sketches that shall never be posted again
You know I just thought about it but does Clara have a last name? Also if we were going the unique skill/ability route what do you think Clara's would be?
Basically this thread when it comes to Clara
>>143350701Pretty much, and it's all the better for it kek.
>>143351199Lol thanks to you guys no matter how hard I try I'll never beat the ryona anon title *cries.But I like it's not to mean spirited or /pol/-y so it's all good in my book and pretty fun. Like the sword and mirror.
Haven't seen much of the character here. Anybody got pictures of them? So far, I only know of Ckara, Axel, and Kitty.
>>143350061It should be something related to her farm past
>>143353696hmmmmm what about >Clara Pleans>Clara Fundswhat ya think anon???
>>143353912I dunno. Pleans is kind of ok
>>143354127I'm very open these were just quick google search made up names lol.
Found one last old kitty sketch
>>143354916So much wickedness in such a tiny body.
>>143355843Yep exactly what makes a best girl. She is so smol but filled with EEEEVVVILLLLL!
>>143348817Really did kek, always neat to see the tone fleshed out like this. "The good old days," as he'd so eloquently put it I'm sure. Of course, they've likely been hoping someone worthy will come along, and yet the newbies look worse each year.Fair enough there, though it kind of fell by the wayside, or just didn't develop alongside "better" character writing. And true kek, though it's a fun tone to at least emulate in some part but I get you. Nothing but a boastful little bitch to some people, and that's a good way to raise the stakes without it just coming out of nowehere. Could see little environmental cues being sprinkled around here and there too.I'm sure you weren't too hard on him, it's all good kek. Quite funny that she probably expects others to change their perception but not her, complete lack of awareness. Good point, could try making a base that can be expanded on maybe, something that allows for other draw/lore anons to pitch in kek.Definitely seems like the type that'd view Clara as a challenge, for as much as she admires her moxy and all. Aye fair enough there kek.
>>143350701>>143351199still a better fate than being forgotten
>>143357405True, better to be so bad you loop back around to being endearing than so middling no one will bother to remember you.
>>143357405True, like siobhan from MAWS just keeping alive via funny. >>143358011Clara accepts her clown culture towards the end after almost losing relevancy. Kind of like that one Black Mirror where the Ai of his wife talked back so he dilated time in her program leaving her alone for like 50 years in a white void. An she went almost insane and immediately realized being a slave is better than nothingness or extended isolation.>Clara:ha stupid chuds I don't need you, I'm the MC of a future DTV show.>*Threads stop*>*Next time one starts after a month or two*>Clara: H....Ha h..hey anons, n...not like I n..need you. But I guess I appreciate the thread. My c..creator will make the show soon i swear....>Anons:ok well bye>Clara: w...w.WAIT!>*After like a year*>*Clara with broken and manic eyes, and dirty tattered armor disheveled*>Clara: H...HA h...hey m..maste-I m..mean a..anons, ha wouldn't it be weird if I called you master hahaha. Unless you w..want me to sir. I..I mean so let's keep the threads going I...I'll humor you guys this time.>*anons about to walk away again*>Clara:...i'll be good anons, I'll sing I'll dance, Haa isn't me being dyke broken hilarious come on......p....please. Don't leave me alone guys.Also about to draw some stuff again, any ideas or refs anon. If you aren't fast I might just have to do it tommorow lol.
Does Mary Sue had a Clue?
>>143356776Heh poor bastards, they were made by artisans and craftsman only right below the primordial beings and some that were right on the edge or above the old ones. Now they must serve or work with a bunch of hacks that can't create anything new and are living off the powers of old. Now I imagine Clara not realizing she could have turned the mirror into a magic mirror and become incredibly powerful by just using a hero age creation pragmatically.Yeah true I like DTV vibes but not the mandates and lame bs that tends to follow it. Ha I kind of hate her being portrayed as a bitch she's way to cute like that annoying lil sis that you know means no harm kek. The age of man maybe coming to a end sadly anon, also what ideas are you thinking about when it comes to the cues anon?Thanks yeah she will change eventually she'll have to. I'd like that but then I'd have to think about it lol and I have no idea how to start it without I guess just Kitty and Sultr so far kek. Never even thought what sultr would look like???She hates axel but they are quite similar unbeknownst to each other, also yeah she wants it but won't just take it ruins the game. Yeah I'll do it in a bit these get so damn long no space kek.>>143358882I think she's slowly getting it anon
>>143358601God that's almost too dark for me, but honestly I really like it. Driving someone to their absolute mental limit can be really fun, especially with all that sweet sweet desperation.Kek probably going to have to wait a bit then, nothing's really coming to mind here.
>>143359703It's cool whatever anyone drops will be a tommorow sketch, grabbing refs and trying to draw a sultr spawn now. Also why I wrote it and what I was going for, really the sad desperation and degradation and acceptance of anything in order to survive and be cared for. Really not how I want her to be but decided to join the meme kek, but honestly yeah depressing wonder if that's how a character would feel when they don't get greenlit or get cancelled?
how do you think Kitty and Axel would be like in an actual Disney show about Clara?
>>143359025Reduced to little more than glorified props for people that are just pretending to be heroes in their eyes (or lack thereof). Oh I like that, after all heroes of old are known for their quick wits in addition to their strength, poor Clara has neither on her side, not yet anyways.Totally fair, hopefully we can still tap into it without the restrictions, I'd say we're doing a good job as-is but still. Oh I meant in-universe, there's bound to be some people that wouldn't put up with it, even if we're on her side. I was thinking maybe old propaganda posters and war-related graffiti on the walls, occasionally hearing people talk about another territory falling. Maybe even some areas experiencing the effects of dark energy seeping into an area, like runoff changing the whole atmosphere of some places that alright before. Morale's at an all-time low and the very world around them feels more bleak than ever.Better than dying trying, then again Kitty will probably just bail her out "one last time." Could have like the trunk of the tree bare and maybe add your own branch with Kitty and Sultr on it, not really sure what he should look like either, could be anything at this stage.Doubt either of them will put it together unless they're put in some truly life-threatening situation that causes them to be honest and vulnerable. That sounds a bit lame and canon-breaking now that I wrote it out but it works. Good point there too kek.
>>143356776>>143359812Really a quick sketch for a rough idea. Idk his name if I was going basic I'd call him Faust, basically based him on a typical demon thing. He is either the oldest Sultr spawn or one of the oldest, he's basically a deal maker and powerful monster that uses shadows and darkness. I was going for a bit of a slenderman vibe plus a mix of aku. Any advice or ideas for him or more spawn? I see him as pretty neutral but he loves his father and does his bidding. He also lives off of making deals that bite the user in the end, one horror element idea I had is he's the type of otherworldly monster he can just transport to a person that has a dark desireHe's also meant to be connected to Axel's backstory or atleast one of my ideas. Being Axel's reason for being the way he is Axel's father was a roundtable Knight, when Axel was just a kid he had tons of potential as a knight he was a lot like Clara. Being from a Hero family he believe he was meant for greatness and all his strict training and being groomed to be a knight he actually met most of the expectation or at least the realistic ones. But during his first campaign he led it with is father at only about 8-12, this was a campaign that the sultr spawn happened across and he basically obliterated everyone and gave Axel his iconic mouth scar. Axel began to alienate himself because during the campaign everyone was loyal to him and his father and basically he only survived because the knights and his dad believed he was destined for greatness(At least what he thinks he can't fathom a bunch of adults didn't just want to see a promising young kid die.) All this and coming back from a campaign that was a massive failure as the soul survivor, His family all but exiled him. Because of this he had to rough it as a basic knight to survive now he has gained a lot of acclaim and support many still consider him a nepobaby getting his position in the Roundtable because of his dad's empty seat.
>>143360018Hmmm I feel they'd confirm Clara is bi first because no dyke breaking would be allowed. But probably typical bro sis type vibe, but more the angel and devil on Clara's shoulders. They'd let Kitty stay evil but probably go the abused route and soft girl route. Maybe they'd be forced to do a bonding episode together.>Axel also would just be that one guy from HGS but he'd be shown to be strong and right until Clara finally shows him up>picrel>>143360269Ha sounds right poor Artifacts also kind of like that, don't need power just versatility maybe we can joke someone finds this one as well and becomes a goated knight/witch. Maybe that's a running joke all the artifacts that don't accept Clara or bully her find super versatile users that are worse off than Clara but do something with them kek.Ah I always saw everyone especially knights as positive to her like the lil sis thing, but sure it does become pity or teasing at times no ill will but Clara may see otherwise lol. Damn that sounds horrible but epic, also could see that propaganda thing as DTV acceptable way to show it. Just seeing more and more wanted posters for the dark generals and the spawns, and new knight recruitment ads. Maybe even have Clara have kid/young knights from her village looking up to her, then the tragic cut to her coming back from a successful quest for once and they are no where to be found and the receptionist *sweating* tells her they'll be back soon. Also a way for spawn fightsHa well that's why I had that Clara alone arc idea Also yeah Kitty and Axel are perfect offense and defense for her. I was just doing random sketches/thumbnails but that's a better idea. Also maybe names for ref and ideas from fellow anons.Idk if it even is seeing as we've all but accepted them as our main trio, so I mean at some point they'd have to get along. But I always saw it until then as Axel and her being interested in Clara and he keeps her head off the chopping block.
>>143360379Awesome. What if he made a deal with Axel to spare his life in exchange for a favor down the line
Personally one main reason why I ship Clara and Kitty is because I’m waiting for someone to make the classic tomboy princess Disney archetype who is perfect to ship with Axel
>>143360632Isn't that already Clara anon? Also I ship both, but I can respect that as well. Though I believe making a girl for Axel would defeat the purpose and the fact he's a asshole that wants to break Clara like Kitty. It would literally be like making another girl with Clara aspects for Kitty the two were made for Clara specifically kek. If anything it would make more sense to say you ship Kitty and Axel since they are basically just evil and good/ gender swapped versions of each other>>143360621Thanks happy you like it anon though seems you like everything I make lol, but any refs or ideas would be interesting for this one. I want to lean into the monstrous and horror with him and my next one. Feel one route is like I said the Slendy elongated limbs, and weird proportions/poses. I'd say anon it wouldn't fit as then it ruins the whole Axel misunderstanding what happened because of his toxic upbringing. Also felt the fact he didn't offer him a deal makes it more tragic and humiliating he wasn't even worth the effort, maybe even told him he didn't have enough passion or desire for a Deal. I also imagined Axel is cocky and fearless accept for him. Add on to the fact he's meant to be made of liquid darkness and shadow making him impossible to hit if he wants to be. I see him not even remembering Axel or his dad, but maybe we could go the route his dad made a deal to have Axel spared.
What do you guys think kitty's opinion on Clara and humanity wanting to slay her father and siblings? Do you think she likes any of them?
>>143358882In due time, anon. In due time.
>>143361728It will take a while it seems lol
>>143361902Good things come to those who wait so it all works out kek.
>>143362257True, the happy ending is coming anon someday soon.
So… any details about what about that bikini armour arc?
>>143362879Theirs a full green towards the beginning >>143270658Funny enough first green I believe and one where Axel and first signs of Clara depth appears
>>143362879Also all the art is spread across the thread, but I Can give it to you it's all in order I believe>https://files.catbox.moe/jm28sf.png>https://files.catbox.moe/vcunnq.png>https://files.catbox.moe/po6hhj.png>https://files.catbox.moe/lniw8h.png
