Late night I can't seem to fall asleep story time. It came up in the recent shelf thread after a bit of a side discussion about Roger Sterns Cap run and a Frank Miller issue that got moved to Marvel Fanfare.Let's give it a read!
As per us we open with the editor.
Feel free to bump if you're reading.
My uncle is a fire fighter incidentally. We're not super close but he knew a lot dudes who died in the line of duty.
Cap.. Cap, buddy? You uh.. you like the flag, do ya?
I don't think I've ever seen Cap dangle a dude off a building before.
>>143304224Did anyone like Editori-Als? Ever?
>>143304275I don't mind em.
>>143304259He felt up the flag in Born Again, too.
>>143304287>Elektra mourn no more!...
>>143304296signs are fun
This is one of the pages that was in the shelf thread.
Love that onomatopoeia. For my money it's Walt Simonson's usually but this is a good one.
>>143304319Said it in the /shelf/ thread and I'm saying it here, that last panel gets a chef's kiss from me.
Man, arresting a guy in front of his kids? That's just... that stings even if he is a dirt bag. Well nobody said Justice was easy.
>>143304329The kid will grow up to be a villain. They will call him The Sweeper.
That concludes the main story. I'll post the rest in a bit. But man. That just really makes you think doesn't it? We do have so many chances even though we don't see them. Like we just feel lost and helpless but when you get down to it, it's our own job to make our lives better in our own way. Just... really sobering.
Anyways, TIME TO BRING ON THE GIRLS!!
>>143304362He actually went back for the fucking flagSteve is such a dork
these next 10 or so pages are all pinups.
>>143304369>>143304376Kevin Nowlan does not appear to be an ass-man...
>>143304224>>143304275I think they're neat
Red Sonja, I wonder if this page was redacted from the collected editions as they no longer have the rights to her.
Incidentally this would not be the only story Stern would right about an arsonist. Cap 258 also has Steve going up against an arsonist but that's more about real estate plots and not some statement about the disenfranchised. It's a pretty fun story still.
And as I was saying in the other thread it's a real crying shame Stern didn't get a longer run on Cap. His stint was brief but I really liked his take on the character. I'd have loved to see what he could have done with more long term attachment. But there was a lot of bs behind the scenes, you can read it herehttps://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/captain_america_255.shtmlI just pulled this up with google.
>>143304404Thanks for all the effort
The short of it, is that Marvel paid you a bonus for having so many issues in a row at the time. Editors were being fags about deadlines and wanted to insert a fill in issue which would have cost Stern and Byrne their bonuses so they walked. Which sucked.
Did you know it was the 80s?
So 80s
>>143304275I think it's ego-inflating masturbation
Man they were really trying to make Cloak and Dagger a thing weren't they.
Nobody remembers who Ziggy Pig and Silly Seal are. They were from the 1940s. I had to look that up.
>>143304424I love Punk Rock Storm
And the letters page. Because why not. All in all, a pretty good issue. Would read again. Is a shame this didn't get to be part of the main run of the book and Stern got screwed costing us what could have been a fantastic run. I mean we got Dematiess and Zeck pretty soon after so it's still pretty good comics and then after them was the Gruenwald run. But you know still right? Would have been cool to see. Also man when you get into it Cap had a lot of really good runs didn't he. Well hope you had fun reading.
>>143304431Pretty much from Nova on marvel was pretty desperate to find another teen hero that would stick
>>143304376>>143304422>80s WidowB b b b based
>>143304601The David Bowie look was very popular.
>>143304326Big gamble with that move, that could have just as easily killed the guy.
>>143304362This page sums up Captain America better than any other.
Thanks.
>>143304431Oldfag hereThey were pushed and pushed and pushed and PUSHED. >>143304409Bryne has said this pin up was the inspiration for FF 275
>>143304418Based Doom Doggos
>>143305925>Implying Cap isn't precession perfect. He'd make that shot blindfolded.
>>143306827I'm not sure if it's the best, but it definitely dispenses with anything overly optimistic, it's almost kind of a downer message.
>>143309477>>143306827I'd say this kind of thing is pretty consistent. Personal responsibility and America being about potential not guarantees has always been his bag.
>>143304362MOST of the time all she offers is hope. The American Dream seems to have turned into an American Nightmare.
>>143309684>The American Dream seems to have turned into an American Nightmare.
>>143309684>turned intoIt's been a nightmare for a lot of people throughout its history ever since its creation, but it can be argued that, aside from a lot of missteps, it's gotten better in general, and still has the capacity to do a lot better. The overall message from Captain America is that while things look like shit, and have been shit, it doesn't mean it always has to be shit.It is a lot a talk and it can come off as empty when people are at their lowest point with no hope in sight, but he's a fucking comic book character, all it can offer is a bit of optimism to the reader.
>>143310068
>>143310068"Maybe your kids can have a better life"
>>143304329Cap beat the shit out of him in that first panel, great art.
>>143311351That's how life works, we try to make things better for the succeeding generation and try not to fuck things up along the way. At least, that's what we're supposed to do.>>143311646I can understand being super pissed at the guy for being a domestic terrorist and murdering people, but beating the shit out of him in front of his family is still kind of a bad look for Cap.
>>143311776Mess with the cap get the shield slap
This is pretty good.
>>143310844Me?
>>143304431>>143304571Marvel has been conscious of the fact that their new characters weren't catching on for a long time. Aside from the various mutant titles and The Punisher (and briefly She-Hulk during the Byrne era), totally new series at Marvel have not really sold for shit over the last 40 years or so. Moon Knight was one of the last outside of the examples mentioned above to have an even decent selling new series. So whenever something new came along that editorial/management were convinced had potential they would stubbornly push the FUCK out of it.
>>143311776My read was Cap was so focused on getting him he didn't realize the rest of the family was there until they hit him
>>143309684>The American Dream seems to have turned into an American Nightmare.>The American Dream begat the American Nightmare>Life imitates WWE
>>143309684
>>143312907That's a hell of a detail to miss considering he BnE'd the guy's home while they were sitting down for a meal, unless his justice boner was so hard that it literally blinded him to everybody else in the room.
>>143314101It all happened pretty fast.
>>143314139The man dodges and deflects bullets, he totally had to have noticed them, it's just a weird detail that he charges into the apartment like a bull, stops a knife attack, slams the guy on his ass, then somehow missed the kid and mother sitting at the same table. I get they were trying to drum up drama by having him realize it was the same family he saw earlier, but that was just a strange sequence overall.
>>143314251It's a comic, anon. Cap's still a human at the end of the day and it's easy for him to get caught up in hot emotions.
>>143314292Still dumb, I could understand if the kid and mother were in another room and they respond to the commotion going on and see the guy getting destroyed and Cap ends up being surprised that it's the same family, but Cap running in there like some cop hopped up on piss and vinegar while simultaneously ignoring and scaring the fuck out of the man's family like he's on super crack from Street of Poison arc just seems off.
>>143314446
>>143314560Such a great arc. It's from the preachy "Drugs are bad, m'kay?" era but Captain Crackhead is actually fun to read.
>>143314843comics just sort of knew how to make a story better
Favorite issue(s) of Marvel Fanfare?
>>143315133The april fools issue
>>143315133Let me think about it.
>>143308300Did his art peak with this run?
>>143315133Numbuh 55. The Power Pack one.
Marvel really should be putting out more Fanfares, two in ones and team up books honestly. It's a great platform for showcasing talent and character. Just take your presently most popular character and team em up with whomever you're looking to push that month or give a nice one shot that doesn't require too much investment to get readers hooked.
>>143304216Lmao Frank Miller is such a patriotic faggot. I'm surprised he ever gave us anything good with this level of simple minded retardation.
>>143317702What the fuck are you talking about?
>>143304376>>143304382>>143304369>>143304404>>143304409GRIM
>>143314292That's the point. He should've learned not to let his emotions cloud his judgement.
>>143317702?
Last bump, and a thanks to OP for the storytime.
I like how the shield bounces. Who else drew it like that?
Bump to read
Reading
>>143322158Me too
Nice.
>>143311351That's why my great-grandparents and millions of others immigrated to the US, worked their butts off, and put their kids through college. So future descendants would have a better life.
>>143324149Those were different times
>>143324238And in current times people don't do that?
>>143317711>>143318671NTA, but in Miller's excellent and ultra-cynical work "Marsha Washington", the only genuine noblebright hero is the Captain America expy.
>>143325332People's desires as of late feel like they've become a bit more.... immediate.
>>143304327Fuck, I missed a shelf thread.
>>143325526It was a good one too.
>>143325497They want a better lives for themselves as well as their children?
>>143304268>>143304271When did it stop being socially acceptable to call a character Injun?
>>143304292It's nice to see this speech be delivered by someone who actually believes it, and not cynically like the Red Skull and so many others do.
>>143304336That's why it's life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. If he had just added that word then I'd unironically agree.
>>143304346>suicide by immolationThat one seems real popular again all of the sudden
>>143326016Psyops.
>>143326487You mean Cyclops?
>>143317730The art is really good, but they do need more hips, thighs, and ass.
>>143304362not bad
>>143317730What the fuck are you talking about?
>>143326829He's been offing people and making it seem like suicide! Get the muties!
>>143304369>>143304376>>143304382>>143304392>>143304404>>143304409>>143304422>>143304424>>143304431If Marvel released a book full of pinups this flat and curve-free now, people would understandably accuse it of being some sort of SJW anti-sexiness statement.
>>143329368To be fairer if they did it NOW it wouldn't be drawn nearly as well.
>>143329368Skinny women with no hips or ass was seen as the ideal body type at the time, at least among whites, I'm sure blacks and central and south Americans still loved big hips and butts. I only know this by watching old shows or movies from the time where they whined about having a figure of any kind that was larger than toothpick thin.
>>143329368You're an idiot.
I just want to say I'm a bit pleased this thread is still up.
>>143304301RONK RONK
