Let's talk about Barney the Dinosaur.Okay, let's get real for a moment. Barney was a staple of many childhoods, but for some reason, there's a segment of people who find him... well, let's just say, less than lovable.So here's the question: Why is Barney so divisive?Is it those big, googly eyes that seem to follow you everywhere? Or maybe it's his perpetual cheerfulness that some find a tad unsettling? And let's not forget that saccharine-sweet voice that could make your teeth ache from across the room. So, what's your take? Why do you think Barney the Dinosaur gets such a bad rap? Let's discuss!
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You still remember being called a baby for watching it
>>143324644There's a documentary about this, OP.https://archive.org/details/i-love-you-you-hate-me-2022-peacock-720p-ddp5.1
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>>143324644It was the only thing on at the time for a lot of kids back then because corporate had a monopoly on media. People hated it because it was fucking gay and being pushed EVERYWHERE. Millennials don't understand how badly they've been brainwashed.
>>143324644It was really gay. More so than usual for kids programming. It also didn't teach kids anything except how to be really naive, again moreso than usual.
>>143326561y'all are always mad about the drag queens but never the parents who are entertaining the idea. you know this enabling happens b/c alcoholic white women are obsessed with rupaul's drag race, right?
>>143324644fat evil purple piece of shit, fuck barney
>>143324644>Why is Barney so divisive?It's kids' TV for the children of '90s soccer moms who thought Sesame Street was too edgy.
>>143324644That one MLP autistic spammer gave Barney a bad name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfLG7ua2gREthread theme(what accent is this?)
>>143326833Neither H.R. Pufnstuf nor Bear were nearly as gay as Barney
>>143324644Barney is trash and was always trash. Kids never actually liked it. The only people who watched it are kids whose parents used the television as a babysitting tool.
We have failed as a society.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkAqhY_RFHs
>>143327062don't laugh, this man got violently raped as a child and his brain latched onto this for comfort
>>143326833I don’t know what that thing on the left is, is it supposed to be anthropomorphic corn? Is this how Big Corn indoctrinated Americans?
>>143327130He’s supposed to be a dragon. You can sometimes see that he has a little tail. They just didn’t try very hard to make him look like a dragon. Him being a dragon is the non-drug explanation for why his name was “Pufnstuf,” like puffing as in breathing fire. Unlike milk, corn didn’t really get promoted in the US with big flashy ad campaigns, they just put corn-based additives into a lot of foods and it just took us a while to care because corn is a vegetable so it must be fine, right?
>>143326652I would have called bullshit on this years ago but now I have come to realize there are a subset of people who are so bland and vanilla, something like Sesame Street and especially its setting would actually offend those same soccermoms. The Olsen Twins were also tailored for safe suburban families too.
>>143324644Why do people hate Barney so much? It's an innocent show
Children trying to feel "grown-up" by making a show of how much they hate "baby shows" because they're totally cool and mature now that they're in 5th grade
>>143324644Don't summon him
>>143328091summon him, i want the cocaine he hides in his tail
90s Cocomelon.
>>143324644It was a coming of age moment for many 7-8 year olds who grew up with the content to reject it as for babies and to indulge in their growing sense of maturity via an increased understanding of social tabbos by making up mocking parodies with gratuitous violence.
>>143326833barney brawl render
>>143327628The Olsen Twins were perfect entertainment for middle class '90s American families.>daughter identifies with the girls>mom approves of the wholesomeness>dad and son have sexual fantasies
>>143324644Kids hated him because he was "for babies." Millions of kids grew up in an environment where hating Barney was basically the first and earliest possible chance to project maturity.He also talks really slow and dumb and thus wears down your patience kind of like someone with a severe mental defect. The way he's always 100% nice and saccharine also subconsciously feels like he's either fake or hiding something.
>>143327280Wait Pufnstuf was supposed to be a dragon? I had no idea what he canonically was or what the lore was and for years I passively thought he was a sentient ear of corn.
>>143327280>his name was “Pufnstuf,” like puffing as in breathing fire.And the "stuffing" part? Do I want to know?
>>143324644He is the man in the suit
>>143328702Barney?
>>143328752Imagine a cream filled donut
>>143326097That documenatry's wild>VA actually seems like a chill guy who voices mainly body puppets and costume characters like Barney and Chuck E Cheese>Got death threats on the internet in the 90s>A lot of the child actors on the show were picked on at school when they got off it and some turned to alcohol >One kid in particular straight up went full street, got shot, survived, and became a born again Christian>Creator was kind of shitty to her son about the show's success, Barney took over her life so much that her son felt neglected and envious of Barney>Eventually the son goes crazy and gets arrested for shooting a neighbor as an adult
Anyone remember the Robin issue where the Mr. Rogers parody frames the Barney parody for armed robbery? Good times.
"In training, they forced me to listen to the Barney I Love You song for 45 minutes. I never want to go through that again," one US operative told Newsweek.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-40090809
>>143326652there's something really fucking funny to me about how Gen Xers and boomers pit sesame street against barney unironically.
>>143327062You're on a board where people wanna fuck the pink dragon from Dragon Tales. That already says enough about our failure as society
Barney sucks but it's over hated but some of the hate was/is pretty funny (i particularly recall some anti barney zzt games) obviously wasn't appropriate to threaten the real life people involved in the show.thinking back on it the lack of a regular adult human character was one of its biggest problems. Imagine Lamb Chop's Play Along sans Shari Lewis; The Elephant Show without Sharon, Louis, and Bram. They'd still be better than Barney but eeesh!
>>143330084*Sharon, Lois, and Bram. Sorry, Canadian friends.
>>143330084I decided to watch some Barney out of morbid curiosity a couple of years ago, and my main issue was that they were padding the episodes out by having Barney and the kids randomly sing public domain songs that had nothing to do with the main point the episode was trying to tell. It felt cheap and sloppy. Like you can’t come up with an original song to keep things more focused? You’ll just do whatever to fill out the runtime?
>>143324763fpbp
>>143330176Haha I definitely remember being more than a little annoyed about that sort of thing. Shouting at the TV in my squeaky lispy little boy voice things like "that's not how yankee doodle gooooes!!". Really especially hated how they reworked the excellent highly entertaining children's song "This Old Man" into the boring slop they did.
>>143324644i love youyou love memassacre the bourgeoisie
Are we sexual attracted by Dinosaurs now?
>>143331540You missed some /r9k/ threads
>>143331583YOU'LL BE FUCKING BUTCHERED ESL RETARD
>>143330299kys
>>143326561That's not true. Sesame Street comes to mind, as do the Muppets, everything on Nickelodeon and plenty of other things. See this anon's post for more specific examples. >>143330084 . I don't know why it caught on, but it wasn't for lack of other options.
>>143324644I was 9 when it came out and I probably didn't see it until I was 10-12. I was outside the demo and it was just gay ass baby shit to me. Knew TONS of kids that loved it though. It was everywhere.
you let many threads chived, lazy
>>143330353I like that there are people here who legitimately wouldn't get that that rhymes.
Post your top 3 Kids shows.
>>143324644The kids who grew up liking Barney are the oversensitive cancel pigs of today.
>>143333243You were 9 when it came out but you knew tons of kids that loved it? They were much, much younger kids, I hope. I was 10 when the show came out and it was pretty much universally accepted among my classmates that Barney was for toddler aged children. I had a 2 year old sister who liked it but that's it.
>>143324644He sounds like a retard
Barney was a show for three-year-olds so four-year-olds would hate it to be more mature and edgy.
>>143333972>Kids showsI assume you mean stuff specifically aimed at preschoolers?
>>143333972Between the Lions actually promoted higher literacy rates in Mississippi.
>>143333972Yo Gabba Gabba>Handmade aesthetic>Lots of cool celebrities and bands appear>Cute puppets, costumes, and animation>Nick Jr.’s top employer of DJsLazyTown>Created by a professional athlete to promote health and fitness>Creator of the show just constantly doing gymnastics to set a positive example>Songs with a Europop sound>Featuring the GOAT Stefan KarlSesame Street>The OG>Created when Kindergarten was private only to help kids whose families couldn’t afford to send them to Kindergarten>Used the tools of advertising to teach useful things>Researchers and experts working with creatives to produce a beautiful marriage of art and science >Still going after 50 years
>>143324644this post reads like a Guptil script
So that's why animations like these were made back then. https://youtu.be/gh8NOzAG0JU
>>143330176I watched it at one point out of morbid curiosity too and the thing that threw me off was that some of the child actors looked waaaay too old to be on this show. I get that they probably wanted some older kids to be role models for the target demographic but it gets really distracting to see what sometimes looks like 11-12 year old kids singing Row Row Row your boat or Pop Goes the Weasel.
>>143334028younger siblings exist, anon.
>>143334656Probably also easier to direct kids that are well out of the show’s target demographic. But yeah, it’s weird how the kids in the show are clearly acting young for their age to fit on a show for preschoolers. There’s also a ton of kid characters to keep track of, these kids can only act so well, and an entire episode’s main plot can be built around them learning a lesson or achieving a goal.
>>143328811You forgot >the actor inside the Barney suit is now a Tantric sex instructor
>>143328811The creator's first husband became depressed because he was no longer the breadwinner for the family and committed suicide. Their son became a drug addict, suffered extreme paranoia and went to jail for several years for shooting his neighbor for walking in front of his house. The son got out of jail early because his mother threw large amounts of money at the state governor and got the son's sentence reduced. The creator also unsuccessfully tried to sue several people who made Barney parodies and ended up looking like a bully with no sense of humor. In at least one of those cases, (the chicken mascot guy who fought a guy in a Barney outfit at a baseball game), she ended up losing the case and also ended up having to pay the legal fees for the person she was trying to sue.
>>143334712The kids also have like no personality and maybe like one character trait at best but that's probably because they're meant to be blank safe self insert everymen
>>143334712A lot of them were the children of friends of the creator's family and didn't have a lot of acting experience.
>>143334876Yeah, it’s hard to say what’s bland on purpose in Barney and what’s a constraint of the budget or the creators’ vision. >>143335228That explains a lot. I guess the way Barney was made didn’t change that much between its independent, amateur roots and becoming a PBS show.
>>143334712I was a pretty big Barney fan when I was in preschool and I never once paid attention to the kids. They're only there so it's easier to imagine you're there with Barney.
>>143324644>So here's the question: Why is Barney so divisive?Because he's always happy, always confident, and always in control. He doesn't have sadness, doubt, or other negative emotions. He's inhuman.
>>143335289In all fairness, the creators of the show made it very clear in interviews that they weren't trying to make some deep multi-layered show that parents could get themselves absorbed into like what's happening with Bluey nowadays.The Barney crew have explicitly stated that they were aiming squarely for toddlers and preschoolers ONLY. This was an intentional decision on their part, as they felt it allowed them to fully capture the young viewers' attention with elements that only appealed to them. That's why there's all this stuff that makes no sense to adult viewers, such as all the padding with all the songs, repeated numerous times over the show, the show's persistently happy tone and essentially zero conflict, because their studies had shown that's what worked the best for their 2-4 year-old target audience. It is a deliberately simple show for the barely-developed brains of their VERY young audience, in a time where something like that didn't exist, and it became popular among that target audience because of that.
>>143335376This was an enlightening post. Thank you for explaining this. It’s nice to think that the creators of Barney knew what they were doing, and that Barney has value even though I can’t appreciate it. That’s how I would rather it be. Based Barney defender
>>143326596>y'all are always mad about the drag queens but never the parentsOh yes I am.>>143327004I had a cousin who liked it. She was 3.>>143328091>>143328098Guys, you know he doesn't get summoned by mentioning Barney. To summon the Barney fag anon, you have to mention... the other thing. You know what it is. Sssssshhhhhhhhh.>>143330299Oh, nevermind. I should have scrolled down further. Way to go anon. You woke up the baby from its nap.
>>143335336They touched on this in the documentary. Barney is always blandly positive and upbeat. Contrast this with other PBS characters like the ones from Sesame Street who have flaws, who sometimes lose their tempers or make mistakes or have conflicts with their friends. Toddlers find it comforting but older kids and adults find Barney to be alien and offputting.
>>143337571>>143330299kys
This bot fucking sucks and if it's not a bot then LMAO
>>143333972>>143334394This was the only edukids show that i legitimate enjoy with no shame outside of Sesame Street muppet skits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT0SsbR6lOM&ab_channel=CasetClub>Ei Takami, Gonta, passed away last year>fuck........................
>>143326833Nah, Bear is really more Fred Rogers than Barney.
>>143334569>>143337747>>143338887>>143339939>>143340577I came looking for the boy and I found the boy
Most preschool shows had a certain level of charm to them, and most importantly didn't treat their audiance like absolute retards. Shows like Sesame Street are still well liked because they understood that kids do have feelings and can understand complex emotions and concepts. They also realized that adults watch the shows too, or will HAVE to watch the show so they tried their best to do some actual writing, jokes and make things not as anoying.Barney on the other hand was so fucking shallow and corperate that they did not give a shit. Everyone is so fucking anoying, it doesn't really teach lessons and it talks to it's audiance like they are retarded. The show just feels like it was ment to brainwash kids in to buying merch and home VHS tapes rather than to teach and actual lesson.And since it was so cute, loveable and safe it was also the perfect target for kids to rebel against and be bait for open mic night tier edgy jokes.
>>143334656That's what always bothered me too. The show is pretty much about a bunch of 4th grade preteens going to a pre-school to play pretend with a stuffed dinosaur.
>>143343130>>143326589>Barney teaches nothingIs the version we got in Mexico different? I remember there were episodes that talked about visual and hearing defects and other handicaps, natural sciences such as the weather and seasons, and would show how to make arts and crafts.
>>143343174Is it ever stated what age the characters are? Dawson's Creek casting was the norm back then.
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what would the talmud say about Barney?
>>143343174The show's actually set at their own (Elementary I think?) school and they just play with him afterwads>>143343634Felt kind of stacked on their ages. Some of them could be as young as 6-7 years old and a couple of them are looking like they're pushing their early teens. Like, you're expecting their balls to drop during the show
>>143330299It's been 14 years, does horse show still need to be its own board?
Barney played bass for The Grateful Dead, so that makes him cool in my book.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IHAMiBdga0
>>143345416/mlp/ is genuinely one of the best boards on current year 4chan. It's a creative, productive OC factory that's still able to sustain 150 threads about its actual board topic and organise to get shit done. /co/ fucking wishes it was /mlp/.
Barney introduced the world to SELENA GOMEZ
>>143337571 >>143330299 kys
>>143324644...Daddy?
>>143345511She hasn't changed much
