And why is it Mora? His art is just so pleasing to the eye.
>>143536582Dan Mora is great
>>143536582Best is hard to say but I find Capullo's art fun
His work on the PR/TMNT II crossover Im particularly fond of
>>143536747Loved how he drew Rita, Karai, and all the other characters
>>143536582Pin ups? Esad RibicInteriors? Dave Gibbons
>>143536582Batgirl Supergirl yuri sexo NOW
Mora, Jimenez at DC, Checchetto and Larraz at Marvel. I liked Joelle Jones style but she is a filthy tracer.
>>143536582I like Reis and Finch
Phil Noto, J Scott Campbell (90s & 00s), Capullo and Mora are some of my faves
>>143536582Mora's easily the best artist at the Big Two right now honestly, he's probably the sole truly good new artist out thereHis work always looks incredibly appealing, cartoony and expressive without becoming a caricature. Whoever his colourist is does a great job as well, because they always compliment his pencils perfectly
>>143536903>honestly, he's probably the sole truly good new artist out therehe's good but not the only one
Mora is fine, his action scenes are pretty mediocre though.A lot of these modern Spanish artists like Jiminez and Mora and Larraz would be B/C-listers in the 2000's, now they're superstars because there's no one else.
>>143537574Who is good at action
>>143537574Agreed.
>>143536582Mora, Jiminez and Larraz all suck and their fans are tards
>>143537574I feel like their action scenes are pretty good since their art is more dynamic. You can see the manga influence on it over the more static art of the 2000s.
>>143537574What 2000s A-lister is better? I genuine can't think of any A-list capeshit artist from that era I like better, I always hold that as an extremely dull, boring era of superhero comic art.
>>143537606I think Ivan Reis is one of the best.I'm sure someone will say it's not as good as manga speedlines action scenes, but it's different art direction, and Ivan Reis is excellent at composing scenes of action with really dynamically posed and fluid figurework
>>143537694Manga didn't invent dynamic action
>>143537709Based Reis appreciator
>>143537709This is good but looking at it the main thing I think is that guys like Mora and Jimmenez are hugely elevated by the coloring. Mora's stuff always has really good color.
>>143537701NTA but I prefer that era to the current one too. Mora's strength is actually in his excellent shadowing and lighting. Otherwise I find it a bit cartoony.
>>143537701Bryan Hitch, Ivan Reis, Stuart Immonen, JH Williams III, Frank Quitely,to name a few Now Mora does draw cute girls and characters which I know is most of what /co/ cares about when it comes to art so I do get it. But that's the vibe I get from a lot of those artists, they're primarily into the characters and not so much comics. It reads in how much they just use premade assets for backgrounds.
>>143537711I didn't say it did, but is surely popularized it.
>>143537767I put JHW and Quitely above him but that's it out of that selection.
>>143537767Agree with your choices. Took me a while to warm up to Quietly but over time I saw the appeal.
>>143537767A JH Williams III's art is very pretty, but it is so overdrawn where it feels like I don't know what I'm looking at anymore. It's over stylized.
>>143536582Since my favorites have already been mentioned I'll say who in my opinion is underrated and that's EVS. I don't like him as a person but I always found his art appealing, sameface and all.
>>143537867EVS as a GL artist is pretty damn good
>>143537808My question is if you mean in regards to how you like how they draw figures and faces or how they compose pages? Because I can get how Mora's characters would be more appealing than Immonen or Hitch, but I don't think his pages are anywhere as ambitious in composition or scope.Dan Mora draws perfectly ok figures but his pages leave me dry, they're pretty dull and just feel like collections of pinup images.
>>143537863I think he's hit or miss on that regard. Can think of a lot of pages where shit is too much going on and becomes confusing and annoying, especially recently, but in his best stuff he balances it very well.
>>143537867My favorite sameface artist is Steve Dillon. Just too iconic to be ignored.
>>143537918His art works best on certain stories, like the more surreal or horror related one the more his art fits I think.
>>143537921Dillon was great at drawing weird, schlubby people.
>>143537905>Dan Mora draws perfectly ok figureAgreed but his men look a bit zesty
Chris Bachalo is up there
>>143537905I am mostly referring to just his style of drawing characters but I don't find him to be bad at composing pages or action or storytelling. Average maybe at worse. I find Hitch and Immonen's styles to be bit boring and I don't think they are really any better at storytelling than your average artist from then or now really.
>>143536829Finch to me is the definitive MK artist, although a lot of good artists have worked on MK
AI
>>143537999I really like how he drew Cap. His work is associated with some bad writer collabs but such were the times.
>>143536582The GOAT
>>143538080
>>143538080this is so weird it's almost appealing
Dan Mora may actually be top dog right now, if I'm honest, but Sean Gordon Murphy gets an honorable mention. I haven't liked a single story he's produced art for, but I can't knock his talent one bit.
>>143538274You didn't like the White Knight? His art isn't my thing but that was a decent book and worked with that art style
>>143538274>I haven't liked a single story he's produced art forI feel that way about pretty much any relatively recent comic artist at the big two, including Dan Mora.
>>143538335White Knight wasn't for me, but I admit I may need to give it another try.
>>143538384Kek yeah. Maybe Todd was right all along when he said an awful story with good art will pull in a reader anyway. Except the stories have become so bad a lot of people have learned by now.
>>143536582LOVE Faboks consistency but I dont know if hes the best
>>143538274Yeah, Murphy is amazing but man, I dislike his writing so much.
>>143537968Immonen is really underrated. I think he has a lot of talent for changing up his style alot and keeping things fresh.Hitch 's realism can grate on people, I know bu he's still able to make really impressive scenes with lots of depth of field.
>>143537574Why have Marvel and DC outsourced so much work to Spanish artists?
>>143536582>Marcio Takarakinda crazy how good modern comic book art is in general but the quality of the panelling and storytelling haven't really been up there.
>>143538335nta but White Knight had a fucking awful story
>>143538842Spain's economy is shit so the dollar goes far there, also none of them rock any boats and will take any work you give them.
All he has going for him are the cute women.
>>143536582looks like a 7/10 to menot awful but nothing special either
>>143539039>kinda crazy how good modern comic book art is in general but the quality of the panelling and storytellingPanelling requires a different set of skills to pinups. Making something coherent in a narrative is harder than just making a single cool picture.
>>143536829>>143538034>>143537999Finch used to be up there for sure back in his Moon Knight & New Avengers days but he fell off hard since then. His JLA work was decent but traced as fuck.When was the last time he had Interior work? Wonder Woman?
yu & fabok
>>143536829>>143537709>>143537722>>143537758This. Reis & his Aquaman work basically single handedly got me into buying DC regularly.I profoundly need him to draw a Thor run at some point.
I will never get you people who love Fabok.Boring composition and buries everything in lines.Look at how masculine this Batgirl is.
>>143536757Rita isn't suppose to be sexy!
>>143540494>Rita isn't suppose to be sexy!They why did they cast a cutie
>>143537999Ugly ass shit. Can't believe you would even say that.
>>143538080This guy makes me wish I had stuck around and kept drawing, but it's nice to see what a very similar art style would have developed into
>>143536582What it means to be the Best cknic book artist?
>>143536582I don’t know about best, but Sampere’s stuff is pretty good.
>>143537999>checkedI like his Conan
>>143536582Frank Cho
i like beachum
>>143542800>tumblr nose no thanks
>>143540391>Joëlle Jonesthen they should have a different professional work on paneling and have the artist stick to drawing only. I don't even read or like manga and even I have to admit the panel work and action sequences are far more dynamic
>>14353658215 years from now everyone will be hating on Mora like they do Jim Lee.
Im old, but my personal favorites were Sam Keith, Tom Grummet, and Art Adams.
Mora is also fast. He can do multiple series at once and also do covers for other series at the same time. If he slowed down his stuff would probably look even better.
>>143543158I think the people who hate on Lee can't separate the artist from the businessman. Maybe I'm wrong. He did lose some of his touch over the years but is still pretty good.
Lee is a little stiff, he does cool portrait stuff, but its not the most dynamic stuff.His design work is horrible.
>>143543330>His design work is horrible.Depends. His X-Men stuff is good.
>>143540467she's cute
>>143543419Isn’t she way older than him?
>>143543634She's between 5 to 8 years older.
>>143543634Jason is early 20s and she's either late 20s or early 30s. 8 years difference like anon said.
>>143536582Jim SterankoJohn Romita Sr.Frank QuitelyDenys CowanJack KirbyFrank Miller
>>143543221Art Adams is still the best for me
>>143536582Best comic book artist ever across the entire medium? Who in their right mind would say a modern Big 2 artist over someone like Moebius or Kirby or Miller?I like Mora but he doesn't stack up to the actual best.
>>143543113I don’t think he’s the colorist, also just having blush on a nose isn’t tumble nose. Tumblr noses are animal crossing type shit.
>>143536582It's Dan Mora. I really dig his art.
>>143537767Add John Cassaday to that list.
>>143538842Spanish comic book don't sell, people like more american comic and manga, so they draw that.
>>143543634>>143543712>>143543723It’s pretty funny to think that while she was at the kid’s funeral she was thinking “man that boy was kinda hot”
>>143540467Agreed. I find Gary Frank boring too.
>>143537709Ivan Reis is the definite modern DC art for me.
>>143537709>>143540424Reis to me is a less interesting Neal Adams.
>>143545034Talk about high praise, Neal Adams is one of the gods.
Mora draws the characters like everyone has undergone at least three rounds of plastic surgeries.I can see the appeal, but it is not for me.
>>143536582Are you in trouble here Robin? Why are you scratching your head?
>>143544761Frank is good, but he has a really bad case of sameface
>>143536582not a fan
>>143545248It just feels like he learned to draw from other comics
>>143537889>EVSToo bad he's a retard the fumbled the bag
>>143547134Maybe you are right. Perheps his works are meant to be modern recreations of those old classic panels, instead of real-life scenarios. It would explain why I find his characters so uncanny.
Itt: manchildren judging artist based on how much the women they draw give them boners
>>143547162Not as hard as Jim Lee I'm afraid.
>>143547425The thing is, all those classic artists had to reference from real life.With Mora it feels like he's streamlining other comic artist's art. A lot of his women have this empty eyed stare because it's like he never studied how eyes actually worked but he has some vague manga influence so he's kinda winging a hybrid of comic and manga styles.I think a lot of people feel he has a retro style and I don't see it. He's way more angular than any silver/bronze age guy. Just because the coloring is more colorful and flat doens't meant the linework is retro.
>>143547794Maybe this is a sign they should bring back brighter and flatter colors. Would make the lesser works less unappealing to look at without the hyper detailed shading and lighting.
>>143536769thor by ribic is goatI can't even imagine someone else doing thor
Sooo many to consider incl....Brian PulidoJim LeeMike DeodatoAdam HughesMike ZeckJim BalentArt AdamsFrank QuitelyDave StevensTravis CharestArthur AdamsAlan DavisFrank ChoJohn ByrneGeorge PerezLee ModerBudd RootMark Bagley
>>143543221>Tom GrummetHis PM&IF was a consistently great to grab off the spinner rack
From above:First name and/or fave character drawn of theirs would help:FinchJiminez Larraz RandolphFaboks SampereBeachum
Kaare Andrews drawing White Queen in Xenogenesis was always... voluptuous. Did he generally draw his comic book babes like that?
David Mazzucchelli on his lengthy runs with BM and DD with assist of complimentary inker whose name escapes me atm.
>>143545248I don't see it. I think they look good.
>>143551000Yeah his characters are cute and expressive, maybe that puts some fans off since comics tend to favor grit and realism
>>143551039I don't mind cute and expressive, I just think it looks fake and plasticky.
For me it'sJack KirbyJack ColeStan SakaiAl WilliamsonWally WoodGeorge HerrimanE.C. SegarJack KamenHal FosterProbably others I'm forgetting>>143536582Any recommendations of his works? Original creation preferred.
>>143536582Generic Current DC Artist, all of his stuff looks like it was made for gays.
>>143551424Ed Benes sucked, boomer.
Balent with Tarot, WItch of the Black Rose - and Catwoman
>best = most realisticEmbarrassing thread
>>143551493Moebius is probably more realistic than most artists listed in this thread except maybe Bryan Hitch, Jack Kamen, and Hal Foster.
>>143537709evs's b team artist.
>>143543138>then they should have a different professional work on paneling and have the artist stick to drawing only.This is called doing layouts. It still happens from time to time
>>143545034Reis is like the most generic slop artist imaginable. Nothing interesting at all about his work and his action scenes are the very definition of the whole "action figures posing" style of action art in American comics. You're right in that he's a less interesting Neal Adams... late Neal Adams.
>>143551493Everyone knows Moebius is the best to ever do it. It goes without saying. If you didn't have a silent acknowledgement that he was and skipped over his name these threads would just be "Moebius Moebius Jean Giraud Moebius Gir " and be over in 4 posts
>>143536582Mora has actually strong fundamentals,He doesnt just scribble and go from thereEvery line is deliberate and he has an extremely good eye for anatomyAlso his main focus is appeal, every character he draws is extremely attractive and appealing to look atMora will go down in history as one of the absolute best comic artists in history
>>143551424>all of his stuff looks like it was made for gaysHey jst because he draws Superman and Batman kissing in his free time doesn't make his art gay.
>>143551708Hard disagree, there's plenty more artists who are generic with less ability to do action. Yes it's "house style" but I think there's appreciation to be had over doing technical work at such a high level with such consistency. He isn't like most Brazillian artists where he's solely good at figures and pinups and that's itI see Reis as more a blend of Alan Davis and Neal adams if anything.
>>143539087>Spain's economy is shit so the dollar goes far thereThe euro is stronger than the dollar, and Spain's economy is flourishing thanks to the Ukraine war (they control the gas going to Europe from Algeria). Although it is true that the cost of living is low for Western Europe.But the comic industry there is almost non-existent now, so you might as well try your luck in France, US or Japan
>>143551779he does good figurework but that's his main thing. I've never think his characters really look like they're interacting with their environments. 3D tools made artists lazy so they treat backgrounds as something to slap in, instead of composing figures as part of it.
>>143551769you never know, there's a lot of idiot zoomers on 4chan these days
>>143549502I like Coipel Thor but yeah Ribic is just right
The guy that did the metabarons
Simon bisley
>>143552299great one
I really love Dustin Weaver's art. Infinity Gauntlet was amazing and this the level of art we should expect from the Big Two.
>>143552495Also, JP Leon was a god among men.
>>143537959Bachalo hasn't been a good artist in 30 years. He changed up his style late in his GenX run and he's been shit ever since.>>143536829Both suck.
>>143552575And, of course, Kirby!
>>143552615What are some top artists that never changed up their style?
>>143552615>He changed up his style late in his GenX run and he's been shit ever since.You oldheads always seem so bitter
>>143552615Your opinion has been noted and discarded.
>>143551553Fair. I just think recognizability is more important than realism when it comes to comics. The greatest strength a comic artist can have is for their work to be recognizable at a glance. Be it Moebius, Kirby, Steranko, Sienkiewicz, Ditko, MacFarlane,Jim Lee, Romita, Mignola, Miller, etc. they have the strength of the viewer instantly being able to see whose work they are looking at. Same goes for the Manga world. Generic styles are forgettable, but anyone can recognize Dragonball or One Piece at a glance. Basically, fuck house styles.
>>143537959No
Look how clean Gil Kanes art isLOOK AT IT
>>143552901House style is in the eye of the beholder. /co/ probably calls Jim Lee, Ivan Reis, and David Finch all house style but I can easily tell the difference. Page composition is another factor. Steranko's style of drawing figures on it's own was fairly generic, but what elevated it is how he'd add graphic design and psychedelic elements to his pagse, and later how he'd incorporate a heavy black inking in some.
For me it's Gleason.
>>143552708Changing up your style to be worse isn't a good thing.
>>143551708>the very definition of the whole "action figures posing" style of action art in American comics.That's Jim Lee.Reis does something vaguely similar but does it 100 times fucking better.
Who drew this panel?
>>143553574George Pérez
>>143553160After some heavy John Romita inking and redrawing.
>>143552575>>143552646ugly and lame
>>143553458I don't think Jim Lee is a good artist either. It's actually mystifying that for a genre built on the idea of action, you can probably count the amount of decent action artists in the history of cape comics on two hands.
If you like any artist from the American artist from 70's/80's, Michael Golden is probably their favorite artist.If you like any artist from the 90's/2000's you still probably owe him a thank you.
>>143553160>look at the clean lines>inked by a completely different artistLMAOIf an artist doesnt do their own inking then they're not a real artistDan Mora for example does their own pencil and inks, and depending on the work sometimes even does the colors
>>143553237Agreed but not an answer
>>143543113the illustrator isn't responsible for what the colorist does, retard
>>143543221art adams has been crankin out bangers since the 80'she's the cross-hatch master
>>143543796quitely is real good he's got that moebius styletoo bad it takes him a thousand years to draw anything
>>143537959He has some interesting rendering ideas but the small heads look being stupid, there's no way anyone can think this looks good. It's like a turtle head coming out of the bodyshell.
>>143551000i dohe doesn't really know what to do with line weighteverything is about the same thickness so it all winds up looking pretty flat
>>143537889Now he draws frogs, how embarrassing.
>>143538274his strength is composition, your eyes want to feast on all the details, moving around the panel.
>>143555485From frogs he came and to frogs he returns.
Roger Ibanez is the best artists by a long shot but he never drew any american comic.
>>143555605He also does the colors, it's even better in print.
>>143554976>Implying Gil Fucking Kane is a lesser artist than Dan Moragoddamn I hate /co/ so much sometimes. Yes, Gil Kane inked his own work when he could. He was doing entire graphic novel lenth books before Will Eisner even did A Contract with God and popularized the concept. And Dan Mora seems to work digitally, his "pencils" are very likely his final linework(and it shows.)
>>143555663>And Dan Mora seems to work digitallyWrong, he works traditionally and digitallyHis World's Finest book is penciled and inked traditionally. You obviously wouldn't know because you just talk out your ass.
>>143538979Somebody edit the M to an F, I'm too busy
>>143536711Why won’t fags like him draw lesbian rule 34?
>>143555852His ink work is still pretty weak, then. Not a fan of the whispy thin lines. It's fine for individual pinups but tends to make his pages look flat.
>>143555894>his work is weak because im not a fan of his line varietyWhat an absolute faggotHe's objectivity a great artist, despite retarded personal nitpicks you have.
>>143555893Because hes too busy getting paid to draw superman and batman kissing
Why the hell hasn’t anyone mentioned HIM yet?
>>143555893You have to be a very lowly creature to draw rule 34.
>>143555945I never said he was a bad artist, just that that area is a weakness of his. Continue to seethe, though, I know he draws your favorite Batmans.
>>143556003I don’t really like the invincible artstyle.
>>143555852Some pages are traditional some are digital.
>>143556003gee I wonder
On another note, I find it kinda eerie Michael Cho's career these days is basically drawing Darwyn Cooke's style. It's not entirely the same but close enough I've seen people conflate the two. It's just uncanny to me because eventually he'll be doing Cooke's style longer than cooke did.
>>143556003Because their art is butt fucking ugly
>>143556480>their
>>143556359Why not make a new thread?
>>143556116I like it, but the writing sucks hard.
