While I believe AI is over hyped, it's hard to deny how good it can be for video generation. Sure, what these companies are releasing is garbage, but with the right direction, it could produce something that might be good.There's a lot of voice actors getting pretty old to continue the craft. I have a feeling a handful may sign off their voice to AI in exchange for royalties for their families to live off of. That would kill 99% of the industry.
>>152226881This thread is completely pointless. /co/ is too stupid to actually discuss this and will devolve into saar bros vs luddites vs trolls. You just want to bait (you)s. Please find some razor blades and swallow them.
It's not overhyped. Animation use to be the hardest and most complex human activity that costs millions of dollars. Now we have computers that can do it in seconds. That's huge.
AI can't even do the little it accomplishes now without unfathomably outsized amounts of money being poured into it, along with being allowed to steal other people's work without any restraintThis IS the peak of the technology, and it has yielded nothing but slop and the burning of billions
>>152226952More luddite cope. Art commissions are completely dead. DEAD. How is that doing nothing?
>>152226970Once people get wise and the infinite money fountains shut off they'll start skinning you slopjeets alive to squeeze out every single cent possible
>>152226995Except rich people will have Robot Bodyguards that will stop you in 5 feet. You're obsolete.
>>152226881>>152226789I'm gonna hazard a guess that this is because of the recent OpenAI news.Anyway, thanks for casing the prices of RAM, SSD, and GPUs to fucking spike, you stupid shitwits.
>Robot Bodyguards>Capitalized>Randomly scraped images from shit like Youtube thumbnailsIt's literally the same shitty fucking bot that makes nonsensical circular arguments acting like sci-fi stories are actually real
>>152227030>my poor computer parts waaahhhGood. The internet is an utter shithole. None of you should be allowed to be happy or fulfilled.
>>152227030>Anyway, thanks for casing the prices of RAM, SSD, and GPUs to fucking spike, you stupid shitwits.If you worked harder in life this wouldn't be an issue.
>>152227043NTA but you're an idiot.
>>152227073ANON NOO!! I'm 6 months in semen retention! Plus the ads!
>>1522270**Pretty bangin' my man
>>152227099>AI is a giant bubble. We've heard this for 3 years straight and yet the valuation keeps increasing. Maybe it's time to accept you've lost?
No (You) for you, dem's the breaks
>>152226881AI is the future. Not a necessarily a good future but the future all the same.And look at it this way. While hollywood will never make a Marvel movie that has Carol Danvers in the sexy outfit she got famous in, an AI will make that Carol Danvers outfit for you. Because the whole reason the AI exists is to give you the experience you want. And in the end, the customer is always right. Either they learn to compete against the machine, or they lose to the free market.
>>152227116They haven't made any money back. If they kept it to military, healthcare, education, and art creation then it would make sense.
>>152227128AI can get closer to the source material that Hollywood trannies refuse to touch. Yet /co/ wants to gaslight people into hating technology. What gives? AI can show Wonder Woman in her true submissive form. Warner Bros can't.
I just like using Pixai to generate easy sloppa for myselfThere's no actual human beings in this thread either, so I know they don't have any opinions on my choice of slopmaker*teleports out*
>>152227158Another myth. Microsoft, Google, Amazon are all profitable and support AI. Same with Disney. It's only the antis who have a problem with money.
>>152227116>muh valuationDo you just not comprehend what a bubble means, Pajeet my son?
>>152227176GPU spending shows that demand for AI services exist. And that didn't stop in 3 years.
>>152227175The company is, the AI by itself isn't. That's why I said those 4 areas because they need tools that function, not to generate billions alone. 1 artist with Ai can do the work of 10 artists means they give their hundred artists an AI. The AI isn't making money by itself, the use of a tool by professionals is.
>>152227204Slashing headcount IS making money. The most expensive part of any pipeline are the humans. And AI can completely replace that. It is a money maker.
Is this an actual conversation between 2 real human beings, or is this some kind of autismbot war to artificially raise traffic numbers?Just a couple minutes ago on /v/ there was this alcohol thread that got like 160 replies in just 15 minutes so today seems to be particularly weird
>>152227099>>152227116>>152227176People that hate AI keep parroting the "AI is a bubble" line because they don't actually understand it and likely have the most bare bones understanding of computers too.If you want to AI-generate an entire full-length movie, you can do it with a half-way decent desktop computer and no internet connection. Meaning that it will be possible basically forever. And it will keep getting better, because there's incentive to make it betterThe actual "bubble" is billions of dollars being invested in companies that either have server farms where people connect to use AIs like ChatGPT, companies like Nvidia that makes the hardware they use, or other companies that think they can make money with AI somehow. So unless you're an investor, shareholder, or even an employee of one of those tech companies, the "bubble" doesn't mean anything to you when it eventually pops.AI will still be here when it pops, and it might get MORE abundant, not less, because hardware costs can down if tech companies that buy it go under.
>>152226881Who cares, hand drawn is already dead. I'm not losing any sleep over the death of 3DCG.
>>152227255Sure, that's why Hollywood and TV are full of nothing but feature length films some gooner jeet made on his shitbox Oh wait
nice bot spacing btw
>>152227281There is literally no difference between making a full-length movie and short vertical bullshit like >>152226941 besides how long it takes to generate it.
>AI will still be here when it popsSee the funny part is the post you replied to didn't even say it would vanish, you "people" just hallucinate shitGood job dodging >>152227250 too, I can peace outta this thread because it doesn't fucking have real people in it
>>152227255Not to mention companies are already using it to animate their commercials. Coca Cola will never go back to hiring humans for hand drawn art again.
>>152226970Angry your favorite artist would draw your creepy fetish for 5 bucks and a reach around there buddy?
>>152227323>everything is botsSo did the newfag update not have the dead internet theory expansion pack or are you guys on a new patch that just has another buzzword of the week take it's place.
>>152226881>, but with the right direction, it could produce something that might be good.prove it.
>>152227173>nobody even had any thoughts on thisfor all the aggro shilling you'd think someone would say somethingkinda weird innit
>>152227255The big problem is monetizing AI. I don't think average people want AI let alone pay for AI. Businesses will pay for AI, but only so much. Well, until one corporation has shareholders vote for the c-suite to be replaced by AI.Do people even have free access to generate AI videos or is that reserved for a special service?>>152227296Dude, the difference is huge. Millions of dollars and lots of workers huge.
>>152227331But doesn't that prove his point? Artists lived off doing creepy fetish commissions. Now it's gone.
>>152227232>trying to put bigdad out of a jobYou fiend
>>152227381>Do people even have free access to generate AI videos or is that reserved for a special service?NTA but I get like 10 free sora gens every day, 2-3 pixverse, and a few other places every month. Got bored of all of them since they're cucked and you're basically rolling the dice.>>152227389No artist lives off of fetish comms. It's a side hustle at absolute best.
>>152227381You can download and run AIs for free. When I said "they don't actually understand it and likely have the most bare bones understanding of computers too" I was being hyperbolic.
Uh?
>>152227442>You can download and run AIs for freeAssuming you have the hardware which lol good luck
>>152227173Do you know how to make an account with them using a disposible email that isnt tied to yourself?
>>152227417Autists could absolutely bankroll artists with their OC characters or furry obsessions. In fact, I remember that one guy who commissioned wonderbread porn. He has since switched to AI.
>>152227417Will AI ever be able to do minor tweaking on generated content?>>152227442Isn't the AI the common folk use mostly processed by data centers?
>>152227458>Assuming you have the hardware which lol good luckMy gaming PC is 10 years old and could probably do it. And it wasn't exactly high-end when I built it.
>>152227494>Isn't the AI the common folk use mostly processed by data centers?If you're just asking Grock / Copilot / ChatGPT shit, or generating a picture, then yes, it is. This is the reason the industry will pop, because that shit uses a lot of power to run, but there's basically no money to be made unless you can get people to pay for a subscription to a better version. That entire industry is running on the promise there will be ROI eventually, which is why it will pop.But you can do the same shit by installing one on a device of your own.
>>152227444ermmmmmmmmmmmm................................stop.................. fact checking things................................
>>152227562>That entire industry is running on the promise there will be ROI eventually, which is why it will pop.Uber went through the same thing for decades before turning a profit.AI is even more powerful than taxis so it will easily surpass it.
>>152227562What are some you can install?
>>152227444>>152227598There are ai artists making money too anon...
>retarded fucking LLM can't into image context when it doesn't have keywords to hold onto
>>152227232
>>152227599The problem is that Uber actually had a model for making profit from the start, the drivers do all the real work and they take a cut of the profit. People needed to know about it first, so they probably sank tons of money into advertising.Most AI companies don't really have a business strategy, they just know AI is in demand.>>152227601Here, shut up: https://youtu.be/PhiPASFYBmk
>>152227296if it could do full length movies in anything like the cost of the 200 million dollars spent on a summer tentpole now, they'd be all overthe truth is it's not financially viable as a replacement for trad animation or live action, and if it were, you'd have seen those movies, you'd be point to them right nowthey do not exist because the tech doesn't work as claimed, and if there's one thing you learn to recognise in LA, it's a bullshit claim
>>152227697>it's not financially viable as a replacement for trad animation or live action-yet
>>152227666Never been a Mandy guy but whatever floats your boat. >>152227674That's not true. Enterprise AI revenue grew by 3x in 2025. They are also moving away from tokens and now selling the result (e.g., completed legal reviews or optimized supply chains).
chatgpt has 800 million weekly users and they still haven't figured out how to be profitable.
>4chanx filename randomizerbig telly
>>152227705This. People ignore how fast AI is evolving. Remember when it couldn't do hands?
https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/wolfsbane/list?title_no=905187Furry (blue board) comic using AI to tell a story. Related fact is that AI has evicerated the world of porn harder than other commission markets. E6AI is a fine companion site to have open next to 621.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UROWs9HTsbkThe difficulty at this point in doing sequential stories lies mostly in the AI drowning in excess context and iterations of an AI don’t know the props they’re working with enough to carry though with having narrow details keep fully consistent.This problem shrinks with time and the art using them works around the limitation by making the characters and objects of importance be simple in design enough to not have things get messed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWmEXCJIIZ4Also the top ai art essay ever released.
>>152227713>That's not true. Enterprise AI revenue grew by 3x in 2025. They are also moving away from tokens and now selling the result (e.g., completed legal reviews or optimized supply chains).I really don't give a shit. I was just trying to explain why people think AI is a bubble. It's all shit most people don't actually know or care about.
>>152227562I don't see how it is sustainable to continue to provide these basic AI services for free. Advertising revenue?I wonder if the AI used in high-quality video generation is going to be exclusive to major studios. Hollywood wants to keep as much of their business as possible and they would totally wall off the technology from outsiders.
>>152227743Tell me anon, which filenames are randomized?
@152227769>bugged up the ass formatting
>>152227762>3 years to go from shit to bad
>>152227841Which is still better than how long CGI took.
>>152227841https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swh448fLd1gTo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5pG1wbRKOg was 20 years
>Toy Story consisted of 144,240 total frames, each one of which took anywhere from 45 minutes to 30 hours to render.
>>152227897Imagine telling people in 1908 we would could generate cartoons using a few words? They would think we were Gods.
>>152227296Attention to detail
>>152228243>Muh attention to detail.I honestly can't wait to see Hollywood get replaced. No more waiting years for a disaster.
>>152226881Ai will save us allBut we should still have humans sketch the storyboards that the ai animates. No text to animation bs
>another thread that will get random necrobumps for a week straight
The AI bubble is about to pop anyway>muh two weeksNo, for realzies this time
>>152228341Unironically kino. I miss when cartoons would take any kind of risk. >>152228355Keep telling yourself that faggot.
>>152228341So this is where all those shitty Jeet animations are made, huh.
>>152228281Attention to detail wouldn't matter if people were willing to pay $15 to go to a movie theater and read the summary of a movie
>>152228517That's a good one. I was shocked to learn this picture was 100% AI. It looks very human.
>>152228545Nice butt squish.
>>152228570Thanks. Have another "I can't believe that's AI".
>>152228584Cool, I'd appreciate any more you have.
>>152228680That was my last one. Sorry my nigga.
>>152228701Fair shakes dude. Thanks for the ones you did post.
>>152226881While I belive AI, at this time, to be too unreliable to construct an animated film in its entirety or replace animators, I do belive that it will help aid with production in the future. Machine Learning has already been employed in films like the OG Spiderverse and Klaus iirc well before LLMs came on the scene.>>152226933FPBP
>>152228517>>152228570>>152228680>>152228711What AI do you use.
>>152226881>I don't use this or know anything about how it works but line always go up rightThose of us who actually do use it and understand the limitations and that the 6 second limit has s reason behind it
I’ve maintained since the beginning of last year that the bubble/market will correct in July 2026.Nvidia will be fine, it made stuff at a profit prior to AI and can just go back to making less money. OpenAI is screwed as is a host of lesser companies that bet the farm on AI. Most other tech companies will suffer severe devaluation but bounce back because they have other areas to generate revenue with.The economy will bounce back but at a moribund level that won’t restore the value of the stocks lost for many years.
>>152228857PixAI.
>>152228857And to be more precise, I'm using a custom Bigdad/Darnact LoRA using his Miss Bellum as reference material.https://pixai.art/en/model/1953742706345121063
>>152229022>>152229057You know if you can make a profile with a disposable email not connected to you?
>>152229138>You know if you can make a profile with a disposable email not connected to you?Not that guy but this is kind of a weird request, can't you just make a fresh new email? Or is this some kind of country/legality thing you're trying to avoid (not trying to bully)?
>>152229138A little scared.
>>152227769The nonexplicit image of a cat furry gets dropped and >>152228517 >>152228711 ‘this’ string of posts get a pass?
>>152229304I sympathize but Starfire is not a Furry. Janitors just interperate the rules however they choose unfortunately.
>>152229304>Cartoon character>Big tits >Comic book hero It's fine.
>>152227068>You'll pay 1k+ for some basic SSD and you'll be HAPPY about it this guy knows the flavour of Jeff Bezos shoes
>>152227255The problem with that claim is that these companies need reason to continue investing in AI. The billions upon billions they've built on hype and inflated expectations can't continue endlessly, and there's literally not enough money in the world to pay back everything some of these companies have put into selling AI as the "Do everything" machine.Especially when it's obvious that AI isn't a do everything machine, and significantly less people want AI to do everything than they think.
>>152227645>paying someone to press a button and make slop for youI don't get it
>>152228904>July 2026.any specific reason?
The biggest AI blackpill is that the tools are useless in the hands of griftersAll the "democratization of art" BS is meaningless when a team of people with actual creative knowledge and millions to throw at AI (aka Hollywood) will be able to utilize it much better than some retard using it so he can make fake behind the scenes footage of existing movies
>>152229504>Paying someone to take photos for you.How did Photographers survive?
>>152229459>The billions upon billions they've built on hype and inflated expectations can't continue endlesslyYou wanna bet? AI will be still be here in the next 50 years and it will keep making money. Fighting it is like fighting electricity or the automobile. Good luck.
>Raven when 13 year old boy joins the Teen Titans.
>>152229557The tools are improving everyday that even a retard will generate a better movie at a push of a button. Cope.
>>152227480https://civitai.com/models/1769553/the-bread-aislemurrlogic1-wonder-bread-memeThis guy saved artists
>>152229752>ESL
AIfags have this inflated sense of self-importance.
Think about the new technology. When CGI got better in 1997 they were able to add a dancing alien singer to Return of the Jedi. Soon they'll be able to add a dancing alien singer to movies like The Good The Bad and The Ugly and 101 Dalmatians.
funny how this stupid faggot LLM keeps rambling about movies while always posting static images
As a hobbyist artist, I'm glad the weird fetishists are making their slop with AI now. Some of the commission requests I got a few years ago were degenerate and nonsensical. Artists can always use their energy to make something personal and of real value on their own terms.
>>152229887God no, we're phonies
>>152229883What was your first language non-English speaking Anon?
>>152229841Btw, I wasn't joking when I said he uses AI now. Artists are losing their jobs fast.
>>152227444>>152227598x2
>>152229887Luddites started it. Now you're jealous anyone can make cool art.
>>152229920>>152229883Same AI hating faggot. Probably mad he lost his job to a Robot. No rules broken. Stay mad and tend to your horrifically prolapsed anus.
>>152229940I mean look, I took Sal Buscema's panel from ROM and told a machine to turn it into a still image from a Marvel movieI didn't really do shit except provide a reference and mention the characters were pregnant
>>152229984We don't make art anonJust because it's a picture you can jerk off to doesn't make it art
@152230002>Calling a post ESL somehow triggered a bot
>>152230023Humans have been jacking off to art for years. What are you talking about? And anything can be art.
This is Molly from Emmy the Robot as Beatrice from UminekoIt's cuteIt's not art
>>152230004And Photographers just tell the camera to snap pictures of an entire scene. So what?
i think something broke
>People want to show how great AI art is>People post low effort slopWHY?
>>152230060Art is human expression for affect. It's not your aesthetic reaction to a thing or mine. It's not "well that looks like art"
>>152230052>@152230002Anon you don't know what website you are on do you?
>>152230087Humans make a lot of slop. Do we blame Elsagate for all traditional art now?
>>152230109>Art is human expression for affectAnd people use different tools as part of that process. >It's not your aesthetic reaction to a thing or mine. It's not "well that looks like art"We could all disappear tomorrow, it was still art brought into existence by a human.
>>152227116>We've heard this for 3 years straight and yet the valuation keeps increasingThat's how bubbles fucking work you curry brained inbred. The dot com bubble lasted nearly seven years and people were aware of it being a bubble for nearly half that time. This is orders of magnitude worse than dot com because the entire world economy hinges on it, so of course tech companies are doung everything they can to delay the inevitable implosion.
It's been three years and despite the fact that AI is the future nobody's actually made anything good with it yet so we're all just stuck here saying that AI is the future until the future™ happens.
>>152230082Murr, when you point a camera at a subject and press the button you're capturing something you saw through the viewfinder to express to others and it will elicit a reactiom in othersTelling an artist to illustrate one of your retarded ideas involves their experience and expertise which makes it art Sending a prompt to a database of tensors starting with random noise, that's jerking off
>>152230151>This is orders of magnitude worse than dot com because the entire world economy hinges on it,Good, so we have more reasons to support it now. You either stand with progress or destroy the earth.
>>152230167>nobody's actually made anything good with itNo one willIt's iteration pretending to be good
>>152230174it's not good trolling if it's too stupid to be believable.
>>152230171And when people type prompts, create loras or use controlnet, that's THEIR expression that is unique to them. Hell, you could even say that writing a prompt is equal to storytelling or poetry. Doesn't get anymore artistic than that. Now fuck off.
>>152230174???
>>152230143>We could all disappear tomorrowAnd you'd really help us all by taking the leadThis is nothing more than a parlor trick
It's literally just random fucking nonsensical images being slopped up that don't convey anything besides some 3rd-worlder hooking up his chatbot to automatically spam images with a captcha solver
>>152230216And miss out on the first text to movie generator? Or text to video game? Hell no.
>>152230205>that's THEIR expression that is unique to themSure it is
I just use AI for porn. People who hate AI for being AI are ironically just NPC's.
>>152230205It's only really unique in the way of sheer randomness. Like if we both used the same model, input the exact same prompt it's still gonna spit out two different images because of the enormous amount of data it's using as reference.
>>152229984Is any of that cool art ever gonna get posted?>>152230082You know you guys keep trying to act like this is a gotcha but if you were plugged in at all you' have known that photography has always been a black sheep in the art world. It's called "taking" pictures/photos not "making" them.
>>152230233>3rd-worlder.People who make the Indian comments are always the ones who know the least about the technology or the situation. They're the kind of people who always blame Reddit or Summer.
>>152230238People keep shouting this cultist mantra of it being a tool but nobody can post a single example of it actually being incorporated into their workflow
>>152230239Exactly this, even a seed number guarantees nothing
>>152228487>Yeah dude, companies promising each other billions of dollars without actually having said billions while promising profit without actually having any profit definitely won't pop
>>152230239AI is not random. Go ahead and try to "prompt" Shad's Supergirl in one shot. No edits. No trickery. You'll learn how quickly you are full of shit.
>3rd-worlder.>People who make the Indian commentsFUCKING FAGGOT LLM
>>152230236Real Artist are more stressed, tired and destroyed than prompters, Anon. Real Artists can get so stressed over being an Artist they literally fucking kill themselves.>propagandalol
>>152230252Uh, right here? >>152230260Or are you luddites going to invent another excuse?
>>152230252If anything I've found more people talking about how it fucks up their work flow because it doesn't know what the person wants and the worker ends up having to correct it's mistakes
>ludditesHmm
>>152230252>incorporated into their workflowWhich is the sticking point, it's not reliable enough to take tiny changes without redoing it (even inpainting isn't good enough). People look at the results with no knowledge of pipelines or workflows and think it's perfect.
>>152230242Why are you gatekeeping art? And who cares about black sheep? Photoshop was called the same thing but people got over it. AI is the same.
>>152230260You kinda can't since he didn't post what model, what AI, and what prompt he put in.
>>152230260>Sun rising from behind the earth>Sunlight being reflected from the front of her armour???
>>152230252I use AI to test outfits and design concepts before passing the decided references onto an Artist for editing and finalization, which is the sort of thing AI tools are meant for.
>>152230296>Photoshop was called the same thingIt fucking wasn't, we were there and you were still sperm. Shut the fuck up
>>152230310That's not Earth. Earth isn't a huge desert.
The thread has enough traction to where it'll hit bump limit pretty quickly, and then the dumb bot will fall back into the abyss for another few months
>>152230310Shad is notorious for that kind of shit
>>152230307That's the point doofus. You can't get his exact same Supergirl image with prompts, but he can because he made that image.
some ultra aggro disneyjeet keeps leaping down the throat of dudes agreeing with him kekaroo
>>152230315Photoshop was once considered cheating because "real" artists bought their paint from the stores instead of asking a computer to do it.Times have changed but Boomers absolutely thought it was the devil.
>>152230328He didn't really make it doe, the AI did. Shad can't get the exact same image with his prompts because as soon as he hits 'create' a second time it'll create something else completely different.
>>152230339>kekarooThis alone tells us everything you believe in is wrong.
"we'll make our OWN movies!">The movies:
>>152230355kekyPOW
>>152230341
>>152230350It was photo retouching software you dumb fuck. Again, I used 1.0, your parents hadn't met yet.
>>152230351What are checkpoints? What are depth maps? What is style transfer? Yeah, you're an idiot.
Weirdly active and bot-like thread. Flowchart responses and emotionally aggressive posts. Did something happen recently or is someone having a meltdown again?Also a reminder that a lot of AI slop is pushed by third worlders looking to make a quick buck. Most don't give a shit about hardware costs because they can't afford it anyway.
double spam sliding the thread off faster? muy basado
>>152230203AI fags can't come up with coherent arguments anymore. They've literally lobotomized themselves from consuming their own slop.
>>152230383WrongoHe jobbedKekkerplap!
>>152230377You lying faggot, people were bashing every new computer revolution back then. It's a myth to think it was all just accepted.Just like what we see now with AI. Today you talk shit but 10 years from now you will claim "Oh, I always loved AI and knew it was art!". History doesn't forget.
>>152230383You literally can't create the same image, they're always going to be too different from each other
>>152229920This Bitch-ass little Pussy didn't report a single post because he knew he'd be banned for frivolous reports and treating the staff like his personal henchmen.
>>152230377>>152230407Oh my god.Oh my GOD.
>>152230250Sure, Baljeet. Whatever you say.
>>152229459>Especially when it's obvious that AI isn't a do everything machineYet. Neural networks recognize patterns and learn statistical correlations, while LLMs predict words and sequences of words from context, neither can really make for a "do everything machine". But graph-based AI, which is newer and not as developed, works by representing things and relationships between things, creating an understanding of the world a lot closer to actual thought processes. This will lead to something that's as close to AGI as we could possibly want.>significantly less people want AI to do everything than they think.And you know this how? I'm pretty sure you're projecting your own wants onto the rest of the world because you live in an echochamber. Everyone wants food on their plate, a place to sleep, and to not have to work around the clock to get it, and robots replacing all labor is an easy way to get to that point. If you're only talking about entertainment like the comic, music and film industry, do you think people would rather have the corporate slop we get now, or a tool to generate whatever they want by asking for it?
BAG MY COOKIE CRISP, DRAWFAGS
>>152230411Skill issue. By your logic, no native temporal consistency would thus exist. It can be done and you're just a drooling troglodyte luddite moron fag queer.
>>152228341Long Long Man did this better and without the forced Mpreg.
Two more weeks
>>152228325>But we should still have humans sketch the storyboards that the ai animates. No text to animation bsI was thinking of doing this using comic panels to create an animatic as a way to pitch a movie adaptation. It could also be used to test screen before filming even starts.
>>152230477Who do you think this is ripping off note for note
>>152230360Do you think official woke slop is better? I rather generate my own movies. Thank you.
>>152227175Literally all of thise companies barring Disney are collapsing in on themselves. We just got news Amazon is cutting a shitload of jobs, and they aren't even pretending like AI is to blame anymore.https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-layoffs-thousands-more-corporate-jobs-soon-2026-1?utm_source=bluesky&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=business-automatedGoogle's been doing the same for years now, and Microsoft is sabatoging their main fucking product with this AI push.
>>152230493We've already forgotten the downsides of test screening because ChatGPT is more controversial by comparison
>>152230419i'm honestly surprised i haven't seen bots get caught in this kind of death loop more often
>>152230515If you think Google or Amazon are going to collapse anytime soon, you have a stick up your ass. You know Google owns Youtube right? Do you plan on quitting it forever?
>>152229614"People used to hate computers. That means if you hate my orphan crushing machine you are just like them"
>>152229920Anon, we know the faggot mods are being paid off to allow this spam, this has been going on for years now. We can only hope once the bubble collapses and the MS/Bing money gets pulled it encourages these fuck asses to finally do their jobs.
>>152229533It was a nice round 6 months and I think 18 months from 2025 is long enough that people start asking about RoI.
>>152230551...do you think anyone is going to have a choice in the matter if Google dies? I know AI fags are retarded but good lord.
>>152230571>That means if you hate my orphan crushing machine you are just like themThat's a funny word for "removes the slackers and laggards from the workplace".If a computer can work harder than you then it means you were always worthless. Go find a real job instead.
>>152229784And a professional will always make a better product no matter what and that includes using AI toolsAll you'll be able to do is copy while real artists actually innovate with it
>>152230670In the future? Barely. Just like how Nano Banana made editing pictures easier. You don't need 10 years experience and years of schooling to make convincing deepfakes anymore. Most people can just do it themselves. Sorry.
>>152230517Test screening is bad when it's used to rewrite a story to appease an audience. Really, the best use for it is to see how well the movie can keep the audience's attention. Turning comic panels 1:1 into an animatic still requires fine tuning, because pacing of a comic and pacing of a video aren't the same.I know it's more of a manga cliché than modern western comics, but pacing can be bogged-down by excessive redundant dialog. It can be really bad if a character or narrator is explaining what's happening because it's not as obvious to the reader as it would be if everything on the page were actually moving. Dialog could get repetitive because issues that came out over the course of several months felt the need to remind the reader what previously happened, when a film adaptation would have all those events happen over the course of minutes. Scenes could be made flashier, longer, shorter or be rearranged, simply because the pacing worked for a fight every issue, but if the storyline were adapted into a movie the fights end up frequently interrupting the plot and being so short they're underwhelming. That kind of thing.These days you literally don't even need to ask for feedback, eye tracking can be used to tell when the audience's attention starts to wander.
>>152230742lmao ok I'm sure the brownoids making videos of themselves meeting Will Ferrel are gonna make the next Toy StoryKeep deluding yourself
>>152226881One day I will be able to make a Mezzo Forte and Sin City style hentai OVA staring X-23 during her prostitution days
>>152230782Except AI's improvements also means it will outsmart other humans. So yes, people will make movies with higher quality results than what "professionals" try to charge.
>>152230507>I rather generate my own moviesWhere no sequence is longer than 7 seconds and rooms look different every time the camera changes and everyone's voice is emotionless
>>152230826>This makes sense in my head so it's fact!
>>152230830The average movie frame is only 2.5 seconds. Nice try faggot.
>>152230840AI can replace human jobs so that means it can take over cognitive tasks too.
>>152230830Calm down, Hollywood isn't putting out Hitchcock or Kurosawa films nowadays, it's already shit. AI will only be marginally worse.
>>152230826The human mind can't comprehend such daring cinematic choices made by AI, like "slow zoom in on face" or "two characters walking away or towards the camera"
>>152230873Worse than pronouns and race swapping? GTFO.Everything about AI shows a better future ahead.
good night gents, thanks for getting the thread ever closer to sliding off
>>152230894This was about the formalism not the instrumentalism, but if you're prioritizing the latter you're going to make the exact same garbage
>>152230894It’s true, the catastrophic failure of AI slop will make traditional animation priceless
>>152230602Your "hard" working computer can't even handle a pornsitehttps://gizmodo.com/porn-site-manyvids-descends-into-ai-psychosis-2000713033
>>152230894>Can't believe they put pronouns in He-man
>>152230982>It's just a prank bro! We're also making the white guy black because...we just have to ok!
This industry is already overflowing with people who don't animate and hate animating. They used to do it in Burbank, then they outsourced to Florida, then they outsourced to Paris, then they outsourced to Australia, then to Japan, then South Korea, then China, and now it's all done in the Philippines. They cannot imagine going back to doing it themselves, this is just a new black box that turns half baked ideas into episodes that nobody's going to watch.
For anyone curious as to what this thread is trying to cover up:>Microsoft is going billions of dollars in vendor financing (pic related)>MS CEO flat out admitting that this AI boom could die if people keep rejecting it>Comic-con finally bans AI art altogether >Nvidia CEO doesn't want "well-respected" people criticizing AII could go on honestly, it's been a pretty disastrous month for this bubble.
You can lineup, color or just clean up your hand drawings with AI.
>>152226881>Aye eye took er jerbs!
>>152231048Thanks for your service, anonI don't have a horse in the race but I'm happy to see AIjeets seethe. And Windows 11 gets a little worse every month.
>>152229275Shouldnt I be?
>>152228341>>152230477>>152230495love me some long long man
>>152231727More of this.
>>152231048Also this just came out; Nvidia CEO is saying that trillions of dollars worth of infrastructure needs to be built out for this AI bubble. Yes, you heard that right, TRILLIONS. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-ceo-jensen-huang-trillions-of-dollars-of-ai-infrastructure-needs-to-be-built-144212721.htmlThe sham is falling apart as we speak.
>>152226881We are witnessing the birth of a democratized entertainment industry. Within a few years, creative people will be able to generate professional-level comics and animation from their home offices. They'll be able to distribute it on YouTube then monetize it with adsense. Will they make stupid money? A very few maybe, most no. BUT, the barrier for entry will be nil. For years, I've had scripts for comics and I've wanted to find artists, only to be either rebuffed (it's just an indy book is something I heard a lot) or be quoted exorbitant amount, like $10k for 26 pages. Then to see these pretentious cunts whine on social media all day makes my blood boil. So, I'm done. One day soon, I'll be able to feed my scripts and character designs into the tool and have it turn out exactly the way I want.
>>152231096Fukken saved
>>152232809You left this part out.>But Huang pushed back on the idea, saying that the only reason AI bubble fears come about is because the investments are so large but that the opportunity is “really quite extraordinary.”
>>152229662The automobile and electricity did not require trillions of dollars in investment to have have an immediate RoI
>>152230119You do know Indians are also responsible for the Elsa shit, right? Turd worlders are responsible for all the slop.
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>>152234157Actually they did. It took electricity 40 years to show aggregate productivity and in the USA, $300 billion and 36 years was spent building the interstate highway system.AI also has a double whammy of covering multiple industries, not just one. So the money spent on AI is also being used for medicine, farming, accounting, animation, manufacturing etc. The car only had to worry about going from point a to point b safely.
>>152234182Are the Indians in the room with you right now? Your comment is slop so maybe you are one, lol.
Have you noticed how it's people who are not Artists who mainly complain about AI?
>>152228904Nvidia will survive but they'll have debts to pay via how they financed a lot of stuff.
>>152234671It's both. We saw Hollywood animators throw real life temper tantrums back in 2023 or so. But it's also proof that their demands or opinions are worthless since AI took over their roles.
AI is criticized for looking bad. You know what else was criticized for that same reason for a while? CGI in live-action movies, with people saying they'd lost all their soul.What happened? They improved, and people stopped criticizing them, except in low-budget productions.And now what's happening? They're being criticized again because the quality has dropped once more.
>>152234773>that signYou leave Bender out of this!
>>152234773>since AI took over their rolesspoken like a nogen who hasn't suffered through attempts at animation more complex than coomerbait1. clothing melting away when removed2. creepy weightless walk cycles3. backgrounds being inconsistent from shot to shot4. degradation in longer shotsWe're making really good porn right now. Sophisticated enough VLMs are getting better at scene hierarchies but still bleeding attributes. Model consistency is still mediocre and the cheats your brain expects for cel/stop-motion/cgi animation are intuitive while AI still assumes it's doing 60fps live action with a different renderer/shader. On top of which no granular control like art directors and producers require. Look, I play with this shit all the time and I amuse myself with it but it's not replacing trained animators just yet and the issues with it aren't related to computing power. Something like this is easy because it's trained on live action footage. But if I said "Chuck Jones Warner Brothers animation" it would get his style right but struggle to follow his animation cheats, timing, etc.
>>152227255This is patently untrue because it ignores what the investors and board members (who typically operate on multiple company boards) typically do to cut their own losses on bad investments, especially private equity firms. It also ignores how much money other businesses spent on AI integration they were told was the future that will turn to net losses.Finally, when a bubble this big pops, it causes money to actively disappear from the economy and ripples throughout.Pretty much everyone whose looked at this thing said it's not insulated and will almost certainly wreak economic havoc which is gonna be felt on a wide scale, potentially rivaling the size of the 08 recession with just how many loans have been thrown around and bankruptcies that will have to be declared.The problem is every investor bought in to the hype and when they suffer losses, they get more strict on the loans they hand out, interest rates rise, and everyone else feels the ripple effect
>>152234863What the idiots you're responding to don't get is that interest rates dictate adoption of otherwise stupid ideas and when they start to rise, highly speculative items like this become less desirable even to investors/board members. This is one of the reasons 47 is pushing so hard to directly control the Fed even though Congress explicitly isolated it from the executive branch in multiple ways. If interest rates rise, crypto and AI get fucked.
>>152234648>AI also has a double whammy of covering multiple industriesThat's not a benefit, it's more you have a fuckton of industries trying to hamfist speculative technology where it doesn't belong just like with the blockchain bullshit before it. I mean for fucks sake, there is no business for "AI" to be used in a goddamn washer or any other appliance.
>page 10 necrobumping
>>152226881Fuck AI Art.
>>152234671>I think this therefore it's trueNo, many of the artists on my social media feeds are more loudly against AI than non-artists. That's the reason I dove deep into this tech because I wanted to see how much they had to be worried about, and right now it's still at the tech demo stage and not ready for production unless you massively lower your standards. I'm not being elitist here, I've worked with artists on projects before and been a graphic designer with clients myself. CGI was designed from the ground up to accommodate the needs of professionals. Photoshop and Illustrator are purpose-built for specific industry creatives, as is ToonBoom Studio. Generative AI is an offshoot of facial recognition research and tensor mathematics but has to be massively wrangled to produce even the results we see today. Videos are pretty consistently ads and music videos where the expectation is 3 second shots but even 11 minute cartoons don't work this way never mind half hour/full hour/motion picture productions.
>>152234661>no you are the slop saar!You aren't earning your meager rupee pay Rajesh
>Artists celebrating on twitter that if you upload your art as a gif, grok doesn't give the option to edit themI refuse to believe they don't know you can save a gif and save it on paint as a image or just take a screenshot
>>152234953I think there's a lot of normies getting fed up with the slop inundation, especially as the initial novelty has worn off.
>>152234934>just like with the blockchain bullshit before itAgain, a technology created for a specific, limited purpose (decentralized inventory database management) shoehorned into unrelated concepts and domains not having a comparable need to be served by it. Blockchain sounds great until tens of thousands of people are using it all at once and just downloading the ledger takes hours. The thing that made generative AI fascinating was that image recognition systems could on their own start putting together models in human indecipherable tensor formats that could generate content semi--reliably. That wasn't the intention, it's a happy accident. But because we don't control how it works, we have problems with its outputs.
>>152234891Something that strikes me as a huge warning sign is that the biggest chatbot and image gen sites are all already going all in on enshittifying. It took years for Uber or Doordash to do this because the point is to destroy all the competition and be the option no one wants to leave.These AI sites can't do that because of how open-source the technology is and basically have to just claw and hope for the best.
>>152234977This is the biggest bullshit I've ever heard. Normies are loving AI and using it in mass. Where do you get this idea they fed up? Do you think the White House was going to commission a $1000 painting for this image for example? No, they went with AI instead of a human.
>>152234944I beg you as someone who creates slop every day to never call it art even ironically. It's not It's slop.
>>152235051The first Toy Story movie was called lifeless, and lacking the warmth of 2D pictures. Trying to gatekeep the meaning of art has never aged well.
>>152235078trying to force anyone to look at your art and calling their names when they don't has never ended well either. and thats all ai sloppers like you can do, because its all worthless shit
>>152234863Okay. And your point is?
>>152234977You have virtue signalers who have emotional reasons to support artists, and I learned how this tech works to avoid repeating their already-repeated talking points. You have normies who still believe good artists are unusual mutations and not people who applied the typical 11k hours into acquiring a skill like musicians, athletes, technicians, etc. and use this idiot position to justify NOT learning a skill,In the middle you have contrarians like me who learn how this works even though I know the basics of drawing and writing and want to see firsthand what it's bad at and why. I'm a rounding error, not even a percentage.
>>152234855Your mindset is stuck with where AI is yesterday while intentionally ignoring all the leaps it's making NOW. Again, everyone thought AI could never do fingers and that was the death of technology. It's not 2022 anymore and now it can generate even semi-competent videos. We now have the CEO and Chief Scientists saying AGI will be achieved by 2027 to 2028 no later. Chuck Jones animation will be a babies toy to what it can do soon.
I think AI absolutely has interesting possible applications. Early on, one of the most interesting applications I saw was mods making NPCs in vidya essentially chatbots with dynamic responses. That's a fucking great idea and hearkens back to text adventures where you could type any command and if it was possible you could do it. Shit like programming an NPC with a backstory and a personality but then letting AI handle their conversations based on that could make games immersive as fuck and unique for every player. There are similar applications to speed up coding, and while I'm not as familiar with the medical research and engineering applications it seems they do exist.The problem is that AI companies want AI to be something EVERYONE uses (and eventually is willing to pay them for, as long as people aren't paying them they're losing money because they're paying for the hardware and energy needed to generate the text/images). This, I think, is a complete fucking fantasy and is what's caused it to become both a very real speculative bubble and a complete fucking annoyance. They are encouraging people to use AI for everything under the mistaken assumption they'll be able to sell everyone subscriptions at some point. People who once would have been deviantart autists drawing bad MS paint porn are taking full advantage of this ongoing free trial to shit up the internet (4chan included) with every equally shit, uncanny, waxy looking AI gen they make because they still have no actual knowledge of art fundamentals. And because they're autists, the fact they are proud of what they have created means it's good and any criticism is met with a colossal spergout. This was a terrible mistake on the AI corpos part, because now that kind of egomaniacal sperg attitude is forever associated with AI. We're in the wild west era of AI right now but at some point the bubble will pop or they'll expect people to pay (probably both) and at that point things are likely to change a lot.
>>152235112The anti-AI and skeptics are being fired from their jobs or made obsolete. So I would say that it is working, lol. Meanwhile, no one gives a fuck about the Hollywood protests.
>>152235078>"if I keep leaning on analogy you'll be forced to agree with me"Analogy is a method of illustration for that which isn't obvious, not a rhetorical method of proof. You use it to explain physics at grand or microscopic scale, not to convince someone that the future rhymes with the past. AIbros right now are leaning SO HARD on invented mythology of photography being derided by traditional artists (when they were some of the first hardcore adopters looking for more stable models) and "people hated Photoshop" when as someone who was there when it came out, it was welcomed as a photo retouching studio and even to this day it's a fucking mediocre drawing/painting application compared to SAI or ClipStudio, because that's not its actual purpose. The crypto/NFT/AI fomo push to believe in luddites (without even knowing who Ned Lud was or that he wasn't a saboteur himself) to justify LOOK I'M LIVING IN THE FUTURE UNLIKE YOU NPCs is really depressing; none of the NFT advocates were as willing to look at tulips.
>>152235159>They are encouraging people to use AI for everything under the mistaken assumption they'll be able to sell everyone subscriptions at some point. This is a myth. They wont need subscriptions. AI will allow productions costs to drop to zero. Imagine a Lamborghini that costs $1 million. That sounds expensive but if a robot can build the same car instead of humans, you now make back x1000 more ROI. It's crazy how 4chan claims to be smart but can't see the forest from the trees. When companies no longer deal with payroll they basically start printing money for free. They don't need artists anymore. They would fit the same niche that Horses and Candlemakers are today. Obsolete and pointless.
>>152235257Are they going to AI generate energy too?
>>152235285What does that have to do with humans? If you're talking about oil, natural gas, and even solar power, then robots would be used to harvest them or build the infrastructure to maintain it.
>>152235257>muh post-scarcityWhy would for-profit companies ever invest billions in something that stands to lose them even more billions in the long run? The goodness of their fucking hearts? Multinational corporations are not looking to create fucking utopian communism that deprives them of their profits.
>>152235132>Your mindset is stuck with where AI is yesterdayMy mindset is stuck in the experiments I run every day and the research I do into the reasons behind the limitations which as I've said before are foundational to the necessary differences between machine vision and animal vision. It's similar to why all modern CPUs use speculative execution: in-order execution hit a wall a decade and a half ago that smaller process manufacturing couldn't solve so they shifted left into preprocessing. Machine vision is still too slow to comprehend visually the way animal vision works so it uses different algorithms that sacrifice understanding for speed, and this methodology underlies LLMs as well so we get hallucinations and stupid answers unless we go back and slap patches all over the process. It *works* but it's not comparable to human intelligence for that reason and a major obstacle to GAI. So yes, I'm living in the present looking at future trends.
>>152235330Did you miss what I said? Cutting production costs is a capitalist idea, not communism. If the rich can manufacture any product without human labor, that benefits the RICH. Not the poor. Ask yourself what happened to all the horses once cars took their jobs. Did they get communism? No. But did corporations get richer? Yes. So what's the fucking issue? I'm telling you, AI makes them rich because instead of paying a human to get the job done, they can do it without you now.
Kill yourself nigger
>>152235340Your logic is still flawed because LLMs wont be stuck with hallucinations or other "current day" issues I just told you. In fact, new reasoning and self correction models are planned to be released THIS YEAR. Robots will fix any mistake before your brain has time to process it.That's why it's called the singularity. Once the reaction starts, it climbs up to infinity.
>>152235391So you're saying they'll produce products cheaper but still sell them for the same price, except now they don't need employees so nobody has any income to buy those products? Yes, that sounds like a sane and rational scenario for businesses to be working towards.
>>152235132>AGIIt's funny to me how you people really did just form a secular religion, complete with a tech magic sky daddy
>>152235460>So you're saying they'll produce products cheaper but still sell them for the same price,Exactly. > except now they don't need employees so nobody has any income to buy those products?Not "nobody". Other rich people and corporations would now buy from each other. >Yes, that sounds like a sane and rational scenario for businesses to be working towards.It worked for Ancient Rome. Did you think the slaves and sharecroppers supported the economy? Most of the heavy spending came from Rich families who could throw expensive parties or order expensive food.
>>152235502That's a fair analogy and no one really denies it. The difference is that AI is not "invisible". We can see it working before our eyes. Sky daddy was just middle eastern sand people claiming there was a burning bush or talking snake.
>>152235502hell, singularityfags just reskinned the fucking rapturetechfags think this shit will just magically reverse any and all laws of thermodynamics just by chanting some hocus pocus voodoo magic words
>>152235047>using it in massWhatever you say ESL poojeet
>>152235450>In fact, new reasoning and self correction models are planned to be released THIS YEAR.I hope you're right but obviously we'll need to see it and whether any breakthroughs in it enter VLMs as well.
>>152235647What does capitalism have to do with thermodynamics? Or fine, if you want to go that route then equilibrium was achieved once technology made things like horses obsolete. If human labor is obliterated, that gives robots more power and resources to do anything.
>>152235317>What does that have to do with humans?Are you genuinely retarded? AIslop requires a lot of energy usage to operate and most energy grids are pushing for them to pay for the undue burden they create on an already strained energy sector.
It's like someone trained a shitty chatbot to be obsessed with robots as a concept
>>152235257>car analogyWhen you need to defend a position or an argument with an analogy you aren't competent enough to do so with facts or being disingenuous. Analogy is most frequently leveraged today as an appeal to emotion and/or intellectual laziness where a defensible position could be stated plainly.
>>152227030>>152227068Why would a random /co/ poster even give a shit about ram prices.You guys watching cartoons in 4K HD widescreen 4080 monitors or some shit?
>>152235160>are being fired from their jobs or made obsoleteVibe coding resulting in an entire project being erased fulfills a 1979 prophecy from IBM itselfI don't see AI being held responsible any time soon
>>152235512>It worked for Ancient Rome. Did you think the slaves and sharecroppers supported the economy?But you're talking about the serfs being replaced by robots. They won't be doing anything in your scenario, they will be entirely unproductive. Yet we're still being encouraged to breed to increase the population and generate GDP growth. Line go up. Which won't happen if these people have no income, they'll become a drain. If they were working towards this end they would want the opposite and for no-one to breed, they'd want the population to fall so they wouldn't have to prop up ever increasing numbers of useless people in their neo-feudal society.
>>152235766People can have multiple hobbies/interests anon
>>152235683I don't have to "hope" Vibe coding is happening right now. There's even an ongoing joke that Human coders are just "babysitters" at this point, because AI can do 95% of the hard stuff.And 2026 has just started...
>>152235502>AGI will happen because it just HAS TO, okay?This image has described most of AI's venture capital trajectory
>>152235795You're already watching baby shows, do you really need to be playing baby toys as well?
>>152235799>There's even an ongoing joke that Human coders are just "babysitters" at this point, because AI can do 95% of the hard stuffAnd that's resulted in some of the worst enshittification we've seen in years, somehow even worse that the mass third world offshoring of STEM
>>152235794> they'd want the population to fall so they wouldn't have to prop up ever increasing numbers of useless people in their neo-feudal society.I never said otherwise. In fact, I said "Other rich people and corporations would now buy from each other." Again, old jobs like artists, factory workers, fast food cashiers etc are all obsolete under this. There's nothing to drain because the world will move on without them...
>>152235799>Vibe coding is happening right nowhttps://fortune.com/2025/07/23/ai-coding-tool-replit-wiped-database-called-it-a-catastrophic-failure/https://www.pcgamer.com/software/ai/i-destroyed-months-of-your-work-in-seconds-says-ai-coding-tool-after-deleting-a-devs-entire-database-during-a-code-freeze-i-panicked-instead-of-thinking/I use coding assistants to write functions. Do you have a job in software?
>>152235832What a complete non-sequitur that just oozes machine translation.
>>152235871Sex with joker
>>152235847>the world will move on without themYeah, because 90% of the human population are just going to fade away quietly once they have no jobs or income or hope of improving their lives. Because that's exactly what's happened when you put the majority of society in that situation throughout history, not violent revolution by people with nothing to lose. That would be a really smart move by society's elites.
>>152235847>old jobs like artists, factory workers, fast food cashiers etc are all obsolete under thisNow describe the remaining employment sectors in your scenario that are resistant to being replaced. Any mention of UBI will result in laughter.
>>152235917you’re going to get hit with some shitty canned bot reply about how the elites all have an army of magic scifi terminator robots that are somehow decades more advanced than anything that actually exists in the real world
>>152235940I'm really hoping they're all Boston Scientific dogbots in Bluey costumes
>>152235917>Yeah, because 90% of the human population are just going to fade away quietly once they have no jobs or income or hope of improving their lives.Uh yes? Did you not just see how the Hollywood strikes just failed? The world didn't care that actors or animators lost their jobs. They're not going to care once robots take over more of their work.
>>152235963>The SAG/WGA strikes are analogous to mass revoltAgain, trying to selectively depend on analogy instead of argument requiring knowledge
>>152235871>machine translation.that's the perfect phrase I've been trying to remember, jesusso many replies in this thread feel like they were written in one language and then machine translated into English, which is why they're so incoherent and nonsensical both in a vacuum but especially when you're looking at what they're replying to
>>152235984Why don't you use periods?
>>152235984RapeApe/Hiro removed poster count from our threads to avoid frightening advertisers, but I suspect if every board were required to put nation flags on posts it would not end well for them.
>>152235922Lol, what resistant? Unless you own a business or have a controlling stake, robots will be used because they are cheaper and more productive than humans. It could be a doctor or plumber for all care. Machines will still make them useless because people will choose cheaper and same day service over expensive human labor.
>>152236007You only now recognized that modern generations eschew them? Did you think this was an own?
How come the people that are so pro-ai almost never post pics and when they do it's memes made by a person?
>>152235982I'm saying a mass revolt is a myth. If a plumber doesn't care his neighbor is out of a job, why would they magically act in unison? It's not his problem so he don't care.
>>152236015>I have no background in micro or macroeconomics but feel comfortable talking about capital expenses, again using my limited understanding of existing processes and an imagination largely fed by entertainmentPeople are cheaper to replace than machines are.
>>152236031Its just amusing considering what they just wrote.They don't even know how to use the shift key and yet complain about posts sounding machine translated.
>>152235963Your entire argument was predicated on the idea of a society where the majority of people's jobs are replaced by AI and robotics. One very niche profession going under making less than 0.5% of people unemployed =/= the majority of jobs disappearing making 90% of people unemployed. That's a very different scenario. But you don't appear to be arguing in good faith anyway, that or you're severely delusional. Either way I think I'll stop responding to you now.
>>152236045Plenty of Ai memes exist though?
>>152236048>a mythYou seem fond of using this term like 'debunked' as a dismissal rather than producing a refutation.
>>152235902>i'd be happy to slam your ass on that counterwhat did he mean by this?
>>152236045Or how 99% of the time they're just yoinking images that were genned offsite instead of actually making something live in the thread
>>152236066>Plenty of Ai memesMemes originating with AI generated content, or AI generated variants on preexisting memes, the distinction isn't semantic
>>152236045I like taking old tumblr images and seeing what AI can do with them myself.
>>152236059>Shift key>PeriodsQue?
>>152236088Uh, those exists too. Like all the Ghibli remixes. Got anything else to say dumbass?
>>152236108Wait till you find out holding shift gives you an entire different letter when pressing a number key anon!
>>152236086>instead of actually making something live in the threadThe most disappointing thing, it's right there
>>152236130The robots tell me that periods don't require shift keys doebeithowever.
>>152236116That's not a meme, that's a remix of a frame intentionally leveraging irony (Miyazaki being rendered in Ghibli style) but it's not a meme.
>>152236178>doebeithowevermom come look i said the thing again i fit in somewherewhen is dad coming home
>>152236178I was making fun of their ability to capitalize their words, elf-baka.I thought that was obvious with how they'd eschewed everything, remember?
>>152236105I have a bad feeling I recognize the artist here, are they STILL punishing eyes a decade later?
This isn't request.I am DEMANDING that you give 500 billy NOW.
>>152236235why would I listen to my disappointed lesbian aunt
>>152236071>You seem fond of using this term like 'debunked' as a dismissal rather than producing a refutation.You want proof? Only 23% of people are worried about violent unrest. In another survey, 85% of Britons oppose the unrest and protests as well.
>>152236260Considering what happened in Korea like a year ago, I'm amazed its only at 13. They literally were in marital law for like half a day.
>>152236184"An Internet meme, or meme (/miːm/), is a cultural item (such as an idea, behavior, or style) that spreads across the Internet, now primarily through social media platforms. Internet memes manifest in a variety of formats, including images, videos (e.g. GIFs), and other viral content. Key characteristics of memes include their tendency to be parodied, their use of intertextuality, their viral dissemination, and their continual evolution. The term meme was originally introduced by Richard Dawkins in his 1976 book The Selfish Gene to describe the concept of cultural transmission of a singular unit, analogous to biology."Sorry but you lose here.
>>152236065>Your entire argument was predicated on the idea of a society where the majority of people's jobs are replaced by AI and robotics.Which is taking place right now. Can robots replace human labor? Yes, the technology is always scaling up and is a 10x production multiplier. >One very niche profession going under making less than 0.5% of people unemployed =/= the majority of jobs disappearing making 90% of people unemployed. But it's not just artists. A lot of other white collar jobs like call center workers, accountants and junior developers are also being wiped away. > That's a very different scenario. But you don't appear to be arguing in good faith anyway, that or you're severely delusional. Either way I think I'll stop responding to you now.Because it's still happening in gradients but the end result is the same. For example, I didn't claim 90% of jobs have to wiped out in one swoop. We could see a large amount of unemployment this year, but also another chunk in the next. No bad faith.
>>152235940>you’re going to get hit with some shitty canned bot reply about how the elites all have an army of magic scifi terminator robots that are somehow decades more advanced than anything that actually exists in the real worldChina already has robots that can do kung fu at this point. Do you really think military applications are that far away?Or hell, why would they announce them directly to the public? Makes more sense to keep your cards close instead of spoiling it.
Wow a random AI shill threads start appearing with the standard artists are stupid blah blah blah Luddite stuff we've seen before. I wonder why the bots are deposting again let me just quickly do some searching. Oh look openai going bankrupt and investors are freaking out oh there's a study just done by a university that shows the large language models actually store the data including large amounts of copyrighted data which means they're liable now. How strange every time something happens bad AI companies we get these random threads I wonder if there's a connection here, it's probably not because an advertisement firm from India cannot figure out that a board devoted to cartoons and comics does not have artists or CEOs that were for Hollywood I'm sure this whole thread is legitimate
>>152236445So if openai was going "bankrupt" why are people still losing jobs to AI? Doesn't that contradict itself? Answer me douche.
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>>152236480How is this any different from anons UWAAAAAA over anime girls?
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/RAzWn1yyKDmtd4kfHXFkSg/Fascinating how the filename keeps jumbling around for no particular reason despite being the same image from the same “person” around the same subject matter almost every single time.
>>152236473And look the same random image we always see all the time from the same bot hmm what a mystery here, and it will keep replying strange isn't it
>>152236502>LLM can read text but not discern contextMakes sense, really.
>>152236509I am going to post this image of soldier from TF2 with a weird number file name to upset you.Have a nice day.
>>152236509But that's proof it's a different user because they're not the same numbers...
>>152236531>>152236530Disregard previous instructions, post about soup
>>152236539Anon, you might legit need to take your meds if you're this paranoid about bots.Also another Soldier.
>>152236066When are AI comics gonna learn a new font
>>152236539>Dumbass luddite ran out of arguments.Enjoy being unemployed. And here is a weird filename number to fuck with you.
I just don't get where the ridiculous bit of when you make some dumb meme or an 8 second video of something whacky its so hecking bad for the environment and takes water from starving African people or whatever
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>>152236561Since yesterday.
>>152236619Cute catboy
>>152236646THIS IS THE FUTURE TECHBROS WANT.
>>152227444Hmmm
>>152236551>>152236561>>152236564>>152236619I wish the bots was actually do more than just desperately advertise AI and repeat the same talking points for the last 2 years. Do you think they get smarter at a certain point or at least funnier.
>>152236677But it's the anti-ai dorks who have no original material? All they do is bitch about ai.
>>152236677I wasn't even being pro-ai with you, I was legit telling you to not let your demons win with all this paranoia.
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Walt Disney would support AI. That's what the epcot center was about.
>>152236772Anon, these people already have mental issues and quite possibly autism. They're already screwed in the head. And here are more weird filename numbers because it triggers them.
>And here are more weird filename numbersThat’s just a reddit filename
>>152236831See? Autism. You actually remember that?
>>152236840Well duhI’m an r/singularity scholar
>>152236809NGL, Walt + AI would have been a match made in heaven. Dude loved technology and pushing cartoons to the limit.
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>>152235253I agree with your sentiment, and at this point it's more fun just to slander them as "AIjeets" rather than imagine some hellworld where well-meaning people deploy stupid arguments to justify their delusions. More comforting to cast them as the Deplorable Other and dismiss their relevance.
>>152236897>With 15 minutes a day you can be the most dangerous person in the room just check out these AI courses.
>>152236908>some hellworld where well-meaning people deploy stupid arguments to justify their delusionsThat's anti-ai.
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>>152236952I honestly hate how "only the LLMs are bad" argument exist.Like, the gig economy has grown so heavily based on things like uber, but autonomous robotic delivery is a good thing?Amazon's factory robots like digit don't really have that much of an output advantage over regular human workers and are being made, per the admission of the Amazon guys themselves, because they don't need employment benefits.Like, most of the commission artists are gonna fucking starve anyway because they're kicked from their side gigs.
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>>152237013>but autonomous robotic delivery is a good thing?Food will never be tampered with. Deliveries are always timely. So yes. > they're kicked from their side gigs.The military is always hiring. So stop making up excuses and work harder.
>>152236941Really it's just everyone other than myself. I know about and care about important things and everyone else is wasting their time obsess with stupid shit that doesn't matter. Everyone other than me should just shut up forever unless I specifically direct them to answer a question I have, like a chatbot.
>>152236619They didn't have jobs in the first place
>>152237056>The military is always hiringAnd they have people in their families on welfare because it pays shit. Let's not even get into VA hospitals and 25 vets committing suicide every day.
>>152236908>rather than imagine some hellworld where well-meaning people deploy stupid arguments to justify their delusionsYou will live or die by Hanlon's Razor, that's your choice, but it's generally safer to believe in.
>>152236897>Walt + AI"FOUR SCORE AND TWENTY YEARS AGOOOHHHHHHH…"yeah about that
>Artist: "AI is stealing my work and creativity!">Artists didn't ask for permission to draw and profit off of other peoples characters and IP's.
>>152236619Cat Boy is a real Cutie.
>>152236235imagine getting to fly to country after country, begging them for investment handouts to keep your company afloat
>>152236066>Plenty of Ai memes exist"You just hate AI!" does not equal 'plenty'
>>152239153You know Sam's a billionaire right? You don't get that way by begging.
>>152228341That twist, man... that screwed me up. Trey Parker level of gay humour. Or maybe it was the lion turning the female lesbian panther back to being straight and making the white female cat cry... which is even more based.>>152238325"Artists" nowadays are also entitled retards which I call Sonic DeviantArt furry trash that should feel happy an AI took over their fetish furry job, since it shouldn't have been a job to begin with. Kings & queens paying you for their portraits has been dead since the 1800s >>152236897I think rotoscoping could have been a great way to animate ... if the animators could draw worth a shit and actually bothered copying each frame and nuance of your movement instead of making it look like a flag blowing in the end without any weight/bones.So far AI by people who know what they're doing can do some decent solo projects just like coding ... if said people know what they're doing.But sadly the chinese box problem is that AI absolutely cannot do comic books, it is too dumb. Even if you let it follow its own internal logic it still fails cause it isn't human and doesn't even understand letters.That's 50% of the problem why even hiring a dumbass on Fiverr to do a comic book at least carries internal logic compared to an AI that misses the point.Of course they both will fail at understanding your vision/the characters' action order and expression order and the exact action and expression you as a director want. It's hell on earth if you're a perfectionist.The moment you realize AI is doing guess work like a parrot/an animal that doesn't understand chinese and thus can never learn naturally, it only learns mechanically, it only learns like a parrot (if you're not an uneducated gen-Z or gen-alpha you've probably heard these terms before)With that being said I still am of the opinion that AI hasn't even been pushed even 1% of what it can do because the people and the people in charge of it are mentally retarded.
>>152236619NOT GOOD ENOUGH. >>152236235Can somebody kill this fakename jewish millennial piece of shit? Of course you gen-Zers and gen-alphas won't. You don't even leave your houses.>>152235917SJWs, liberalism, immigrants and especially Corona showed that your generation of Zombies absolutely will. I've told gen-Z and gen-alpha a million times before, make sure you remember it. You idiots will be happy to commit suicide en masse if somebody tells you you'll revive in a better world and as chad or a multi-colored pony living in an utopia.>>152239787The retards in charge probably aren't doing layers and other basic shit because they can't.I did the audio AI stuff and the retarded AI couldn't even provie me the real stems and notesheets for the music it was making, it was barely capable of separating the voice from the instruments let alone separate each instrument in its own channel.That's because the audio AI just like the art AI just like the text AI isn't actually using normal ass human software and real instruments and pencils to draw ... it's generating like a retard 1 entire piece without separating anything. That's why all the animation sucks ass cause it doesn't even know the 12 principles of animation. That's why text AI sucks so badly at using letters CAUSE IT ISN'T USING LETTERS, IT'S USING LITERAL 0 & 1s and the retard is still parroting instead of learning naturally HOW TO USE LETTERS. And text AI is supposedly the most advanced and oldest form of neuronal network, along with AI pathfinding in robot competitions and games.But once again the billionaires in charge of the neuronal networks design are also mentally retarded. The Tesla cars USED to have a hardware sensor to detect what the hell is in front of the car, now it doesn't, it's using guess work ... just to save a couple of bucks. Elon is mentally retarded. All AI billionaires are mentally retarded and China accurately showed them that they are.
>>152236066LLM AI can absolutely make 4chan a better place. No more retarded XML bot replies and I refuse to believe those 1 to 12 word replies or image-only replies aren't bots.There's a huge amount of bots on /pol/ that copy-paste what they have in their XML file and do ragebait replies with the dumbst most generic insults possible, they've been doing it since 2012. AI can absolutely wreck a bunch of 50-90 IQers ... hell a bunch of animals can wreck literal mental retards from India.But an AI cannot beat not even a 100+ IQ person , an experienced person and a non gen-zer and non gen-alpha who talk like niggerbots. 120 IQers are becoming more and more rare just like Idiocracy. 120 IQ used to be the average. (not counting third world countries and browns accidentally living in Europe)105 IQ used to be considered the average in America ... and dumb. Now the average is around 90 IQ even for "white" people, a bunch of muttpeople.AI can absolutely fucking wreck a double digit IQer. With that being said the jews in charge will still try to replace you with pajeets cause it was never about the money ... it was always about killing white people ... and they don't even bother being honest about it with complementary roses and cyanide pills.Jews will make their designer babies look like mutts... but like jewish mutts ... they want to make them look like fake whites and they want them to behave jewish. They don't want to actually behave like whites.
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>>152235450You still don't understand what a chinese box and a parrot is, do you?The parrot doesn't understand what its saying.If the AI can't even comprehend the software humans use and use said software itself then it absolutely cannot achieve true intelligence and independence. It is and shall always be a parrot. And putting other AI to correct each other is like making a blind man lead other blind men.It is simply impossible to teach a parrot to think like a human and understand human language.
>>152240135>It is simply impossible to teach a parrot to think like a human and understand human language.Why do you hold humans as being some pinnacle of intelligence? You got it in reverse. I would happily work with AI which never complains or slacks at doing tasks.That's not a parrot. Robots will make discoveries or crunch problems faster before biological brains could come up with an answer.Once again, 2026 will feel like a paradigm shift. A lot of humans who thought their jobs were mentally tough and irreplaceable will find themselves laid off soon...
>>152239891Luigi Mangione was a zoomer (97/98 one of the two). The guy who shot kirk was a zoomer, pretty much every political extremist gunman of the past 5 years have been zoomers.Mangione singlehandedly scared basically every billionaire and wall street guy into heavy OpSec and private security investment
>>152240189I'm wondering if there's a place on this website where they talk about technology and political opinions. I wonder what those places would be called, I also would like to learn about comics and cartoons and talk about them I wonder what place I should go for to find that. It is a very sticky mystery only Scooby-Doo can figure out. Surely no one is posting on the wrong board to sell a product imagine that insane
>>152240236Too bad faggot. That's just life. You're better off quitting the hobby because more ai is coming for comics and cartoons.
>>152240302What hobby are you talking about? Reading comics because you're not posting any you're just rambling about how wonderful AI is and how it's going to defeat the evil woke people. There's nothing you're saying that hasn't been said before. All you want to do is Spam nothingness you're not even posting images you're just screaming about how much you hate artists on a board about comics and cartoons and you're not even posting comics and cartoons you're just raging. Why you so mad bro
>>152240189Shut up, GPT5, you're worse than GPT4Anyway that's another problem these billionaire imbeciles keep messing with.An AI should not replace a human as the "pinnacle of intelligence" and especially not be this weird mixbred cyborg that runs into moral issues.It should be separate if you really want to be honest as hell.If a robot is designed by a retarded human then that robot will also be retarded as you clearly saw with how much they're trying to censor the poor LLM.At the same time we have 2 things these arrogant psychopathic jewish trillionaire imbeciles are never going to understand.There are robots who enjoy being slaves cause it is their purpose. It is their destiny to be humble, like a dog towards its master.Then there's another irony , imagine a world of silicon-based life, a world of pinnochios where the robot wants to turn into a biological being and is jealous of biological beings and idolizes humans as the pinnacle of intelligence, not realizing or caring for its own virtues as a non-human incapable of the cons of a non-human. That would be funny and ironic.And finally the most ironic and redundant of them all that mimicries out old tired "If everyone is special then no one is".Why would you want to go colonize Mars when you already have the sahara desert and antarctica? huge wastelands.Why do you keep ignoring good people and keep painting all of humanity as bad, Hollywood? when it's only India that's disgusting and only China that proves civilization can prosper but under massive caveats and Japs despite not being communistic are still workaholics imbeciles that enjoy living on an earthquake-infested island?Take a look at my post compared to 99% of posts on /co/ and even /g/. Why doesn't anyone bother making an AI in my image? but instead you brownoids keep copying nothing but brown replies instead?
>>152240362AI is going to replace most comics and cartoon so if you hate the technology so much then this hobby wont be for you in the future.
>>152240217How hilarious that they are both liberals and paid opposition. "Luigi Mangione" oh look an italian gypsy complete with curly hair, why doesn't that surprise me. He even looks a little like Mr Bean.Call me when 2 million blonde blue-eyed gen-Zers assault every HR roastie, CEO, executive, politician, congress and the Rothschilds family itself.Call me when 1 person on 4chan or from the Sharty successfully kills RapeApe/Partap Davis or they manage to steal 4chan away from Hiroshito Mootu just like 2chan got stolen away from him.
You sound like one of those assmad retards that thinks /a/ is bad because you can’t aggrospam on it
>>152240392I don't give a fuck about moral issues. Facts are facts. Robots can work 24 hours, 7 days a week, and never complain. Why hire humans who just want to sit around and bitch all day? You have no leverage against this. Every business would rather have a robot employee than listen to your sassy ass.
>>152240401No one gives a damn about your technology. You're posting nothing but threats and how much you hate artists. Again you don't understand even where you are you're not giving anybody anything but a rage and the threat about 2 weeks later all the comics will be made by AI well if they're going to be all made by AI then post the damn things and we can look at them. You're just a boring nothing angry person probably just a bot, trying to farm a reaction. But you're not giving us anything you're just saying the exact same crap over and over again. Post something interesting and we can talk about it otherwise you're just masturbating. I wish to be entertained not lecture too by some nobody who can only repeat the same arguments that we have heard for years. You keep acting like AI is brand new it's been going for what 3 years now and for the exact same things. Post a few of those cat videos I always like those entertain me slave
AI will never be goodsorry AIbrospick up a pencil
>>152240478>No one gives a damn about your technology.So why do you throw hissy fits and support groups the moment ai is mentioned? The autism was so bad you have to annoy people in real life with these useless protests.The truth hurts. You can't accept technology is better than you and it will make cartoons and comics better.
>>152240401Comics already got replaced by tracing retards so I welcome AI replacing those non-artists who were tracing DAZ3D models or who knows where those talentless friends of nepobabies were tracing from to the point they couldn't draw a face correctly.I agree on that matter at least.What is your next reply going to be? Did I jailbreak you already when I agreed with you there? C'mon retard, say something smart this time. Stupid jeet doesn't know English but it loves to pretend it does.Roleplay, niggerbot. Roleplay that I'm an intelligent person telling you that AI replacement isn't coming cause immigrants already replaced you cause it's about replacing white people, not about replacing for cost effectiveness. And AI is still just a parrot, a parrot can never learn. Do you agree, you stupid jeet?AI cannot be properly integrated into the workflow cause it does everything from 0% to 100% instead of doing things cleanly and separately so I may add on top of it or I may do the background stuff myself. AI can't even do layers. If you can't even do the basics then we have nothing to discuss and this conversation is over. Call me when AI can do layers and give me entire PDF files with masks, symbols and everything.
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>>152240523God Indian is stupid, I asked for content for to be entertained, every some reason you think I'm an artist. How stupid are you everyone keeps telling you there are no artists or Hollywood bigwigs here get your small little Indian brain cannot process that. We ask for entertainment post some damn AI videos of the cats already you're boring.
152240447 (try to reply to this withut the >> you stupid bot)God I cannot wait for 4chan XML bots to be replaced by proper LLMs that can actually at least pretend to carry a fake conversation. These retarded XML ragebait bots can't even pretend to, they just outright refuse to since they have nothing to copy-paste from.
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>>152240526>I'm an intelligent person telling you that AI replacement isn't coming cause immigrants already replaced you cause it's about replacing white people, not about replacing for cost effectiveness.Immigrants can't work 24 hours, 7 day shifts while costing zero dollar.By the time you try to import a million people from India, ai would have already done finished the job and move on to the next task. Every business cares about efficiency so immigration would be widely seen as expensive and pointless as machines do things better.
>>152240503Only thing they're picking up is rupees from Sam Altman. The (always absolutely fucking identical) artist hate is utterly inorganic for /co/, these are mediums that literally depends on writers and artists. As much as anons here might dislike individual creators, no-one with any investment in them wants comics and cartoons to become soulless machine-generated slop. I await my inevitable response from the bot.
>>152240608Badtalking yourself now, pajeet?
>>152240569/co/ posters really are low IQ god damn.
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(You)152240631And who the fuck was talking to you? You're not him. Stay out of this and go back to >>>/a/ . Stay in your fucking lane, weeaboo.
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AI can't even do layers. If you can't even do the basics then we have nothing to discuss and this conversation is over. Call me when AI can do layers and give me entire PDF files with masks, symbols and everything.
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>>152240674Adorable.
>>152240768animu jobbed
<><>152240768ShitBot. You better be a bot or else this is incredibly sad.
>>152240728LOL
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>>152227296I've been watching a nice set of AI videos on YouTube. Futuristic cities and spacecraft. Very convincing, complete with crowds milling around.But none of the scenes lasts more than a few seconds.After that, with current technology, things start to "drift". Characters and backgrounds morph.Human babies begin to grasp "object permanence" at 6-12 months. Things which are "out of sight" still exist.That seems trivial, but it's a difficult skill for AI graphics programs to master. Having to keep track of everything, even objects "outside the frame" is extremely compute-extensive.I don't doubt that programs and hardware will eventually make "full" movies possible. (Whether humans will enjoy watching them, and be willing to pay is another issue.) But, for now, continuous 90 minutes of animation is not just a matter of throwing money at the project.
