Share your thoughts and feelings about the current state of youtube indie pilots. Share ones you like. Ones you hateAnd your ideas
So, who's gonna be the Tumblr sexyman/love interest voice by Michael Kovach?
>>152277404Most of them don't interest me and I've made my peace that the only people interested in giving a Western indie animated pilot a chance tend to be children and young teenagers which rather limits what could become popular. No one else cares.
>>152277404>>152253459Previous thread
>>152277422He has to be smug and snarky.
my indie pilot idea is a story about a girl named globina and her quest to stop the evil boogeyman name shambles the shambler. she is devoid of any personality and her character trait is that she's a strong independent woman. but she realises that she needs help on certain occasions and she seeks help from her friends plobus and roopus, two annoying twins who are very useful in combat. they later meet a mysterious wizard lady in the bushes named wizlina and t..... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....GLITCH GREENLIGHT MY PILOT
>>152277422Something something indie animator with a penis
>>152277460So how come everyone hates glitch?
>>152277442I think theres a male audience out there but it will be buried
>>152277475I don't, I'm just taking the piss. I truly hate Spindle (Vizvie's indie company)
>>152277475Mostly they're experimenting with new IPs and every would-be showrunner on the planet is desperately trying to get Glitch's attention.
>>152277552I understand but is that their fault for it? Like yeah theyre the main focus but eventually someone else will fill that spot
>>152277404What would his pilot be about?
>>152277542Fair honestly
>>152277573Hed make a generic 2000s highschool/middle school cartoon similar to danny phantom but worse
>okay here’s my indie pitch>there’s a cute fox girl, really cute, she uh works in a coffee shop>… and uh, she has a wacky roommate, she is also a cute fox girl and>… uhhh… that’s basically it>…>wanna buy my merch?
>>152277662>we queer bait too!>and the fox boy wears maid dresses
I think the economics of it all is messed up. Because of Hazbin Hotel and Glitch the audience has been primed to expect very intensive, expensive productions for indie pilots. It isn't doable or sustainable to expect every pilot to have 50k-100k of backing. Not just the animatic, the whole show. That's expensive and you need a way to recoup that. You need a crazy number of views to make enough from Youtube given that the platform's algorithm isn't friendly to animation because of how much time it takes. So you need to sell merch, so your designs need to work for plushies and whatnot. Designing, storing and shipping merchandise takes time and money, so you really need good margins. Tariffs make this all more expensive, and if the economy isn't doing well you audience will have a harder time parting with their money.I Don't Want to be a Magical Girl is styled more like an animatic and I think that's more sustainable. Hot take but even AI slop channels tend to be more economical/reasonable and often will just have narration over still artwork to present information, that's much more doable for a small team to do.
schizo samefag thread
>>152277677Unfortunately with how most people are using it for a quick buck we will continue to see this unprofitable trend
>>152277573this is cringe but I bet this is the sort of shit that actually worked back in the day so I can't fault him for trying
>>152277697Yeah but he should know better than to beg online. At least put in an application or speak to a representative
>>152277697It really didHe made some YouTube vlog detailing his career and it was basically the firm handshake meme with Fred Seibert and later Butch
>>152277710Legitimately can someone explain to me who he is?
>>152277710Relatedly when I was younger I read The Bell Jar which is about sad young women in the 1960s and I had trouble immersing myself into it because the trajectory of everyone's education and work was so unbelievable to me. Like there was a professor character who was only 27 or something and the girls were getting these great careers right out of college. Well I looked into it later and it turned out Sylvia Plath wasn't just making shit up for the story but describing what things were actually like for her social milieu and damn that made me sad.
>>152277721Fountain was an old school Nicktoons guy who now struggles to get gigs, and now pimps put his 10-year-old daughter’s art on Twitter for engagement.I’m serious. She offers $20 commissions, organized by Papa Fountain.
>>152277828What? If he's such an experienced animator and storyboard artist like he claims wouldn't he be able to easily find work
>>152277563No, it's not really Glitch's fault. Honestly most people who actually hate Glitch (outside of people taking the piss) are either animators who are mad they got ignored and want to knock Glitch down a peg, people who genuinely hate TADC and/or Dana Terrance, or people who are tired of the indie animation scene as a whole.
>>152277691It's not really a quick buck which is the sad part. It takes real time and effort and in the end most will not get picked up and get the backing they need leaving everyone involved with nothing to show for it. I don't want to be too negative but I just don't think the money is there. There were definitely bad things about the cable and direct-to-DVD era but in some ways at least it seems to have been a more sustainable model for animation and I don't think we're going to see Western animation taking off again until there is more streaming service consolidation and until ads come back and get integrated into the majority of streaming packages (grim, I'm aware).
>>152277900I wonder if that site that prints youtube videos to vhs tapes could help them get the word out
>>152277867Odd, they don't do anything cringe. They just fund products to make more products
>>152277939I don't think that would be helpful, I think creatives/studios need to figure out more attractive patreon incentives. Weekly Shonen Jump has an interesting voting model that might be worth experimenting with too.
>>152278048It's just I think now a days your animation wont sell without a plushie or a keychainYou need merch asap before creating anything. You NEED to attract a fanbase
>>152278105I get that and at the same time do not understand. I have never met anyone, adult or child, that has ever purchased an indie animation plushie. Who is buying these things?
>>152278152My wife bought one Terrible experience Took 4 months
>>152259095>OC culture ruined an entire generation of creatives.I find this intriguing and would like to see this elaborated upon
>>152278214what I mean is, every beloved cartoon character is an OC, so what's different now?>>152278198lmao, is it at least good quality?
>>152278223Yeah its fine. It's good quality (its the maid jax) but it just takes MONTHS to buyHonestly its why I wouldn't ever buy another one
>>152278238oof so their poor shipping experience has created splash damage for other indie pilots
>>152278214OC culture never ruined anythingIt's creatives who can't accept criticism or change anythingViziepops characters are just her OCs from middle school and its why we hate them
>>152278249Pretty muchI think pomni is an objectively cute design and I wouldn't mind buying one for the kid. But I'm not wasting months to get one. I'd rather wait for a local gamestop to have them in stock
>>152278250I'll admit I don't get how people can hold onto OCs for that long. I still remember my middle school/high school OCs and I wouldn't use them for anything, they're just not good enough. Don't people get new ideas over time as they get older?
>>152278272I've made a few comics myself. I constantly make new stories with new characters and its so refreshing Drawing the same character for years is boring
>>152278223>every beloved cartoon character is an OC, so what's different now?Those characters have hours of material for spectators to work through. Modern OCs are, a lot of the times, the artist's vent character they've had since middle school. The artist obsesses over their character because they've had years of "knowing" them, but we as the audience don't care about the character because there's barely any material.
>>152278328Yeah honestly if you don't make a few comics or animations why should anyone care about your random OC? Yeah man I love your OC with a blank background Totally
>>152277531Honestly men seem to be a tough nut to crack, they aren't as loose with their money as women and the things they do spend money on often aren't entertainment products and when they are it's videogames. As an aside I think men gravitate towards art styles that aren't well represented in the indie animation sphere. Like the otherwise normie hoodweeb that owns three Naruto shirts and who plays COD and FIFA would probably look at the average indie animation pilot and would think it looks cringe and gay and aimed at women. Would he be wrong? I do think a lot of the art styles being used tend to lean kiddish or feminine and stick to the same chibi-ish body proportions.
>>152278392The problem comes with production A chibi art style is far easier to animate and able to produce multiple episodesA more male centric art style would require a lot more time and skillWhich many indie animators do not have
>>152278392Just my two cents anyways Men do spend their money on stupid shit but it needs a purpose
>>152278417I agree with that. But earlier up thread I also said that maybe it would be better for small teams to stick to animatic-style presentation instead of bonafide animation. That might be more manageable if you wanted to present something with an art style that men would like.Implicitly a big issue is that the skill level just isn't there in enough concentration available to work on Western productions, those that are good enough work in anime if they can get the opportunity.
penis bump
>>152278214So, as someone who hangs out with a bunch of people who have a ton of OCs and are either constantly comm'ing or drawing them and coming up with little stories, I think that anon is referring to the way that the most popular/visible artists online tend to have OCs with elaborate lore and complex stories and all this baggage that doesn't actually exist in any way except as ideas in the creator's head. This gets people believing that the path to popularity is to become an OC guy like all the cool kids, and to get noticed as an OC Guy you need deep lore. Then, into the mix comes a certain part of creative social media communities that insists that the only way to play with "blorbos" and OCs is trauma roleplay. There's a whole expansive meme when it comes to foisting trauma and soap opera drama onto OCs and favorite characters. Put it all together with the current indie animation scene we've got rapidly degenerating before our eyes and it goes like this>Artists gravitate towards making OCs, usually trying to copy the success of other artists who got popular for making OCs.>OCs need to have deep lore and complex back stories and a whole imagined super elaborate plot attached to them (usually with some claim that they'll one day make some comics about it)>Current attitude when it comes to OCs is that they need to be traumatized, because trauma is deep and engrossing>Everyone then wants to start making indie animated pilots because that is now also the trend and everyone seeing the success of shit like TADC (which is ironically built on all the same trends, cliches, and recycled archetypes in Artist OC circles, including "relatable" late 20s/30-something characters with anxiety and depression and also trauma)>thus leading to so many indie pilots with varying levels of people trying to make a show about OCs with deep lore, trauma, or both, with a complex mystery story that will need to unfold over seasons.
>>152277573ALmost thought this was MrEnter for a second.
>>152278232>>152258858>>152259091>>152259054I don't know how to explain it but boys just don't seem as involved in writing or making art now as they were when I was a teenager. I don't know what happened or what caused such a sudden drop off between middleschool/high school and college. I considered going to school for animation too, and most of the people in my program were female. There were guys as well, though tended to be similar to the girls in terms of taste (loved Disney musicals, loved Adventure Time, loved Steven Universe, you know). Very sweet people whose sense of taste I absolutely did not vibe with which is part of why I decided against continuing.If I had to guess I think guys are just under more pressure to financially provide and so they pursue other things.
>>152279021Its part that and part that Video Games these days are massive energy sinks and by being such complete packages can often leave little room for reinvesting the inspiration provided.That's not a knock against them but the kinds of guys who would write fiction or draw are instead being sucked into daily grind Gacha Hell where as the games of yester year left room for other things in ones downtime.
>>152277404>And your ideasYou got all of them in the last thread, this isn't a fucking general
>>152279105hmm interesting point.
>>152279121>You got all o-ACK!Shut up indietroon.
>>152279021They're all using ai
>>152279165AI seems to attract a completely different sort of person IME
>>152279147Nigga the closest I'll ever get is making half those AI troll gens in the last thread and that's all you deserve.
>>152279189sneed
>>152279226Sneed Jockey
>>152279308sneed sneed
>>152277442nope not only just childern n teenagers, just like the horse show, theres is an audience of men that would just fap to the characters
>>152278807this was interesting food for thought
>>152278459There are lots of talented westerners, even teenagers, who are trying to animate cool anime-type style fightfag shit and they often seem to operate in a completely different part of the animation internetsphere than "indie animation" people.
I told you to watch my pilot... now you suffer...
>>152278807all of this is to say, there is no classical standard of writing done. There is no plot, the characters have no motivations and are essentially carbon copies of one another with superficial differences in which the creator uses as a vehicle to masturbate scenarios with
here's more of my pitch
>>152277404If Killed by the Algorithm is the first /co/ board project to actually be completed (looking at you /co/stal gem retards) it will be completely fitting.
>>152279934Post YouTube channel
>>152279950https://www.youtube.com/@XDemonCartoons
>>152279722This makes me think about how many times you see artists finally try to make a webcomic about their OCs only to discover that writing is hard. They always wind up making the same mistakes of not properly planning it out and leading to them often rebooting it 4 times during it's run. That's not counting how for alot of OC artists - drawing the comic means you won't be pumping out one off-pics which can lead to your following getting all pissed especially if they don't truly care about the OC.
anthro girls in limbo>mae and bea lookalikes>a tattooed possum (trans girl ofc)>somehow they can have sexi dreamed that while trying to do these out-of-body experiences btw
>>152279604They're usually associated with porn artists
>>152278214niggas wanna play dollhouse and make you watch
>>152277404Chevk em
>>152279105I gotta say, my projects have been slow lately because I'm playing Silksong, and I also wanted to go back to Minecraft as well.
>>152279722>there is no classical standard of writingMost traditional TV western animation relied on the same few character archetypes that have been going on for decades.
>>152278807One of the very first lessons people should learn when getting into writing is understanding that putting your story infront of people is the same as putting an advertisement in front of them.Nobody wants to look at advertisements, period. Saying "oh but my characters are are soooo interesting and have suuuch complex emotions" is no different than that electric toothbrush commercial rambling on about how it uses cutting edge technology to exterminate 99.9% of germs.Once you accept this reality, you develop empathy, and once you develop empathy- your whole brain chemistry will change. You will stop thinking "ME ME ME" so much and will start to grow more considerate for other people's time.You will gradually become attached to the idea of your work being a selfless offering to the word, and not just a narcassistic cry for attention.Aspiring showrunners/comic authors need to read pic related now more than ever. I'm so fucking serious.
>>152278272I've held on to mine but I've let them grow and change as I have. Trimming the bad ideas when things didn't work
>>152279685Oh no
>>152280189Make art?
A lot of indie animators genuinely have bad ideas. It's either an idea they built for a network because they want to be a showrunner at Disney or some genuinely awful idea that a network wouldn't even want to pick up.Also a lot of indie stuff has really bad character designs, I have even had issues with people heavily referencing my designs because they don't want to put in the work to make a good design. The weirdest thing about this is I am not even popular either so I don't know why I've seen so many designs based off of mine.
>>152280533Are you vivzie?
>>152280474that only matters if you have commercial ambitions thoughever
>>152278105Animation always was dependant on merchandise tho
>>152280533Post one because of curious now
>>152280553There's an overlap between these teachings and commercial ambitions, absolutely, but believing it can't be applicible to anything else is being close minded.
>>152280653Quick rundown?But have in mind the "self expression" angle is set in stone by now and the reason most online artists care about art.
>>152277404Nobody has made anything as good as Becky Prim.
>share your ideas so that it can be stolen by some jabronie No thanks
>>152277662Wastelandia already exists, anon.
>>152280554Nah at first (for tv syndication anyways) it was advertising Merch for shows was very rare until the 80s because at most only a handful of cartoons would get merchandise Now? Everyone expects at least a shirt
>>152280788Who is stealing from /co/?
>>152280784Okay Rebel TaxiHow's your pilot?
>>152279685Oh dear
>>152279971>finally try to make a webcomic about their OCs only to discover that writing is hard1. Create a character2. CREATE A SITUATION IRONIC TO THAT CHARACTER'S TRAITS IMPLYING THEY MUST LEAVE THEIR COMFORT ZONE3. Follow through on them stumbling along that path and becoming a different personYour heckin valid blorbo is masturbatory until you do this
>>152281399>le character development fuck you and your shitty opinion most classic comic strip characters are static
>>152280553>thougheverbeit o algoKill yourself
>>152278807I blame Hazbin Hotel for the indie pilot boom
>>152281462It's funny because that one isn't even an indie series in the end
>>152279685Anon no, stop, you don't know what you're messing with here
>>152277475They're pretty big rn so easy target, combined with the works they've chosen to support being rather lackluster it makes for easy joke fodden
>>152281543Nooo
>>152281570Lackluster? I thought they've been fine honestly
>>152280474>>152280553>>152280653>>152280773if you’re making art for yourself, by yourself, it can be specific to yourself. but if you’re making art for an audience then it needs to appeal to that audience.
>>152282203DependsHarlon Ellison made whatever he wanted and said fuck you
>>152282339…and how’d that work out for him?
>>152282362He's a well respected author whose works are considered some of the best in sciece fiction
>>152282339you’re not Harlon Ellison
>>152282391How do you know?
bump
>>152282467because I’m Harlon Ellison
>>152282362>I don't read
>>152279021From what I saw growing up, boys were in graphics/product design classes or IT/computing classes instead of fine arts classes. A lot of men do still become architects, and you need to know how to draw in order to be one, but the end goal is to make something physical instead.
>>152282677Fatty
>>152282677But if you're Harlan Ellison, then who's flying the plane??
>>152282203I get that. I have characters from HS that I used as a vehicle for resolving my own issues. I went as far as to make comics and 50,000 word stories, but I would never publish that material because no one but I would understand the story. It’s not made for an audience, it was made for high school me.
Where are the diapers
>>152277677Normally I'd expect there to be half a dozens Glitch ripoffs to ride the indie train, but the economics of funding animation is so depressing, that even showrunners from major studios and youtubers are cramming their waiting room.Say what you will about the shitty "bean-mouth" and noodle arms from calart, big disney still allows showrunners to crank out around 20 eps per season per year (from the finest korean slave labors). You're lucky to get even 3-4 eps per year from these glitch guys, and once you're done with your "amazing world buildings" and "rich lores" that were brewing for years in your head, once the final 2 eps drop, you panic wrapping up as many major plot threads that can be afforded to animate, and that amazing world you built dies after 1 season, with a token comic book or a music video as sequel.And for those furries indie slop from B-tier youtubers, they can't even afford the luxury of even a single centralized studio. Those YT guys can only mooch off so much from their decade-long internet fanbase while running all over the place, asking random online contacts to do scene-by-scene of essentially a higher quality "storytime animation", but instead of them as a white blob, it's a bunch of tryhard OCs with marvel-tier zingers, with generic high school or adulting-sucks stories. It doubly sucks when some of them are cartoon critics, yet they can't write anything above SoL slops at 0.25 episodes per year. Yet no matter how annoying they are, I still have to feel bad cause the ceiling is so damn low to begin with.
Pan here. You guys are dicks.
>>152277662>And have elastic powers
>>152283411Content creation nowadays is more about fandom centric activity than it is the source. Even if a show like Digital Circus only gets a 10-ep season, the amount of fan content its produced is enormous enough that it will have surpassed the experience and weight of the actual episodes. By contrast take like one of those cheap Canadian cartoons that gets 200+ seasons of fart jokes and boogers but has essentially 0 fan content or reception to dive into and no one cares about, or god awful shit like Rippaverse which is a huge vanity project for rightoids but the mode of interaction is entirely a few youtubers you have to care about, otherwise is entirely vacant fandomwise.They key to this is a certain formulas that are heavily invested in characterization, style and worldbuilding/lore. If your pilot can launch a thousand fanfics and get people talking, you can generate revenue and get picked up, and start a whole IP. If it's just your OC in a coffeeshop (which let's be honest, is just YOU as a self-insert in a quirky narcissistic fashion) why is anyone going to care? Do you think people like you that much because you drew yourself as a squirrel barista?
>>152283505Yeah and? Loki irl sucks
>>152283388In hell
>>152277442>Most of them don't interest meI agree. Ironically, most "indie" cartoon pilots exist solely to cater to the overlooked "outsider" teen demo. In the US there aren't "teen cartoons" besides DC and Avatar. Both narratively (waning childhood perversions, looming adulthood fears) and visually (harsh angles against bubblegum pastels) these projects largely appeal to angsty teens and college kids searching for identity. >>152277677>I think the economics of it all is messed up.Economic animation is a lost art. Look at French animation: clever visual shortcuts- held poses, sharp composition- design decisions that suggest modest intentionality rather than blind excess. Everyone animates BIG like they're making a demo reel, which isn't always the best approach for story or budget. But that's what's in style now, so everyone does it with the idea that "big = quality.">>152278807>Current attitude when it comes to OCs is that they need to be traumatized, because trauma is deep and engrossingI'll add that 9 times out of 10, this fictitious trauma never comes from lived experience. These young artists don't live life- they live in their heads. It drives artificial conflict- creates caricatures masquerading as characters. Take Heavy Traffic- deeply personal, raw. Compare it to the semi-biographical stories of today. Same intent. Which one feels more authentic?>>152282203>if you’re making art for yourself, by yourself, it can be specific to yourself.This is golden rule #1. So many artists go independent with a desire to make money, but the success stories are the ones that do their own thing and do it quick, quality be damned. The Bakshis, Plymptons, and Herztfeldts of the world tailored their process to produce raw work that emphasizes their stories first. Even today there's independent animation... and then there's "indie" animation. Worlds apart.>>152277404I want more feature-length work. Stitch together seven 10-min. episodes, put it on Tubi. Movie.
>>152283950Wonder how much it costs to post to tubi
>>152284097Nothing huh
>>152279569horse show was actually pretty good though
>>152281399>>152281415Character development can be optional if you're telling an actual non-episodic story, but character motivations are more important. It gives reasons for why characters put themselves in different situations
>alright let's hear your pitch anon>Okay, so basically, I'll just do Happy Tree Friends again, but inversed >The characters look grim and moody but they actually cheerful and have tea parties and love collecting flowers and->That's enough anon, you aren't what were looking for>aw...>*Another anons comes in>Let's just do Hashing Hotel but good>Amazing, you'll be given the resources to make your series by tomorrow morning
>>152284536>HashingI MEANT HAZBIN
>>152283505The real Pan here. Reminder I got a UTI from jerking it too much and never cleaning up after myself
>>152277404Despite a lot of the shit flinging here, there’s some pretty cool discussion here. Thanks /co/mrades
>>152284682Yeah. I will likely make 1 more thread of this but thats it
>>152284611Good
>>152283950>I'll add that 9 times out of 10, this fictitious trauma never comes from lived experience.This is also why we get so many stories where vapid creatives pretend like some mild discomfort or anxiety was the most soul-rending horrendous experience anyone could ever face.>I told my parents I was GAY and they didn't worship me and treat me like the most amazing person to ever live! It's like they've disowned me!!>I had to go to a shitty job and work a 4 hour shift and my boss yelled at me because I was sitting in the bathroom slacking off the whole time! I HATE CAPITALISM!!>I spent all my money on doordash and and now I feel dumb because I forgot to pay my credit card bill! This is making me suicidal!
>>152282381never heard of him
>>152280236That's a really good way of putting it, it's less about an actual story/characters, and more of ideal/self-indulgent scenarios for the author and people that think like them to enjoy
>>152284979Basically made star trek and James Cameron ripped him off
>>152277404So, what have you guys been making?I feel that if you're going to be giving advice, people should see if your work matches up. I know people hate that argument but imo, it's valid. It's why cartoon reviewers are seen as hacks because most of them make pure shit.This is a cartoon/comic board so I imagine that at least some of you make your own stuff
>>152285208I make comics and small animationsTheyre small but fun little passion projects
>>152277404My pilot, the crackhead Swiss squirrel (based on Shadman): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDIzdQZJHbg
>>152285324Nigger
Nowadays you if you want to make something and that something reaches to be somewhat noticable the options are: >Simple, inoffensive, follow the trends and hope for the best>Balls to the wall and have shit that makes people seethe at you immediately thus hate watching the something
>>152280784TRVKE
>>152284545too late, now your show has been irreversibly transformed into a mathematically determined string of alphanumeric characters
>>152285208I'm solo-animating a feature film, think Raymond Briggs. It hasn't cost me any more than the cost of paper and pencils.
>>1522852083 things:an animated film for collegework on the side (animation & comissions)and I wrote some comic ideas but I'm probably not gonna make themhttps://litter.catbox.moe/w16nu2.pdfhttps://litter.catbox.moe/qszlf3.pdf
>>152285208>I know people hate that argument but imo, it's validnot really, it's like saying Roger Ebert had to make movies to be a reviewer.
This is one of those threads where op pretends to target indie animation pilots but in reality they're just trying to target TADC. I've seen this same song and dance may times.
>>152285500Imo, yes. Critics should also be good filmmakers. This is why film criticism is a joke
>>152285287May I see it?
>>152285494Post your animation
>>152285500But he did
>>152285500It's more common than you thinkEbert has written multiple screenplays Even Carlye from Spill.com made movies
>>152285208>So, what have you guys been making?Board tans and weekly /co/ stuff that stays on 4chan. Outside of that, art studies. I don't open up about anything irl
>>152285526>STOP MAKING FUN OF MY FUNNY INDIESLOP
>>152285208Nobody here likes cartoons or comics
>>152285544Depends
>>152285526>Boss Baby vibes
>>152285980>giving me strong boss baby vibes
>>152285845On what?
>>152280528i dont draw.
>>152286169How nice everyone is(I'm just going to steal a friend's art)
>>152286243Why are anons so terrified of sharing their work?
>>152286333Because this is 4chanYou could have valid criticism but people will jump on you if you're not rubber ross
>>152286347Lmao, I've shown my shit in past threads and have never had this problem and my art is amateur
>>152286409True but this is a thread for criticism Sorta brings out that type
>>152286415Chicken
>>152286347>people will jump on you if you're not rubber rossWrong, people will already jump at you for being an ass, or for being a massive schizo sperg like the resident board schizos (like guy).
>>152280784This, and that wasn’t even fully animated
omg cute bnuuy
>>152286724Hell yeah
>>152285573>>152285682I guess I should rephrase this; what I mean is that you don’t need to be a master filmmaker or make classics yourself to have constructive opinions on movies. Sure, experience on movie sets and whatever gives you more validity, but analysis in itself is fine. If is you can make good points about storytelling then they’re good points. Tarantino has some retarded opinions on movies even if he’s a great director if you want an inverse example
>>152285557this is one of the tests for the filmI could've prob did better but I made it in a day just to figure out the new software I was usinghttps://litter.catbox.moe/2pkhe7.mp4
>>152286758Nice work
>>152286737Sorry but whenever a cartoon reviewers makes a shitty cartoon, my opinion of them drops substantially and I never thought high of them to begin with.
>>152286758What's your socials?
>>152286984555
>>152286984https://bsky.app/profile/derpsic.bsky.social
>>152287069Based
>>152286201No but you post your retarded shitcoin wallet
>>152287192He does
