https://x.com/glitch_prod/status/2025783857107108181
I can't wait for Glitch to get Kyoto Animation'd
>>152593914>herCapitulator studio.
>make a show aimed at mentally ill people>be surprised when the fans act mentally ill
>>152593914How does one avoid cultivating a volatile and highly autistic fanbase?
so is this a kids show or what?
>>152593943Not feeding it with attention like this
You guys are blowing this out of proportion, holy shit dude.
>>152593943Do you WANT to avoid that? /co/ itself has seen how powerful weaponized autism in a fandom can be. I kind of feel like if I created something on the scale of TADC I'd enjoy having the adulation of legions of autists who would make fan content of it.
>>152593943Well pandering the the Rainbow Brigade is a sure fire way to make your fanbase as dogshit as quickly as possible.But even if you don't, popular things will always garner a shit fanbase in some form.
>>152593943By not engaging with them in any capacity till you're done with the project.
LOLLMAO
>>152593914Huge mistake. They're giving internet posters too much power by acknowledging it. Now that the fandom sees they can get the company to respond like this.>>152593943You can't avoid it, but you can minimize it by not interacting with your fandom as a creator/staff.
Hasbro didn't really do this with the Horsefuckers, did they?
>>152593914What did I miss?
>>152593914What happened this time? I know Goose had a breakdown, but based on what? Did she say something controversial?
>>152594018>>152594031>Gooseworx says Pomni and Jax are the main characters>Tons of fans start freaking out because of pic related>Gooseworx spergs out and says these fans are exhausting>Gooseworx apologizes for the spergout>Glitch posts this>Then you post these posts >>152594018 >>152594031>Then I type a reply to those posts>Then I click submit
>>152594018Jax and the clown girl confirmed canon.
>>152594031it was a whole debacle over "fans knowing more about the show than the creator"and all goose did was say that Jax is a protagonist
>>152594046Ah, is that why people are going off about Ragatha not being a main character and that dumb shit?Just more proof that fandoms should not be engaged by creators.
>>152594046Seriously, that's it? Talk about being sensitive. Saying they're the MCs is so obvious, anyone with half a brain can tell its true.
>>152594046Another funny tweet from a mad fan
>>152594103Sanest glitch fan
>>152593914What’s the TLDR? I haven’t payed attention to anything except the actual episodes.
>>152594103This feels like a Tumblr post.
>>152594117see >>152594046
>>152593991Exactly. Unfortunately indie creators can't seem to understand this, Vivziepop is even worse and more frequent with her sperg-outs. The only one who seems to take the hint is Toby Fox, who only posts stuff on social media once in a blue moon>>152594120The kind of weirdos that populated tumblr in the 2010s now shit up twitter, so you're not entirely wrong
>>152594103kek I love this autistic shit.
>>152593914I just want this goddamn show to end already
>>152594193So does Gooseworx.
I just wanna see Ragatha happily ride a horse into the sun and say thank you for everything. I'd die happily if this happens.
>>152593943I think it's pretty much impossible once you've gained a certain threshold of fans who don't go outside and rely on your show for validation and emotional fulfilment.
>Jax and Pomni are the true MCsFunnybunny fans keep winning even in pain
>>152594046>>152594103where are the spergout screens?
>>152594166>The kind of weirdos that populated tumblr in the 2010s now shit up twitter, so you're not entirely wrongit's not just the tumblr weirdos, it's the porn addicted really vocal ones too. they left tumblr for twitter because tumblr banned porn because they couldn't moderate all the pedos posting and got removed from the app store
>>152594254They're deleted now
>brats being dramatic about their favorite character online>gooseworx being dramatic about brats being dramatic about their favorite character online.>fans being dramatic about gooseworx being dramatic about brats online being dramatic about their favorite character online>tourist who don’t even watch the show being dramatic about gooseworx being dramatic about brats online being dramatic about their favorite character online.>glitch being dramatic about tourists who don’t even watch the show being dramatic about gooseworx being dramatic about brats being dramatic about their favorite character online.>in conclusion, Ragatha should die.
>>152593962Agreed, they should've never asked him to work with them in the first place.
>>152594260and they convinced many others to leave by saying banning porn was not progressive
>>152594267Just don't fucking care! Good Lord, he doesn't have to care! They're just idiots online, as far as I can tell it hasn't even left Twitter/Tumblr/Reddit yet. How can you possibly let something purely digital get under your skin like this? It's literally the old tweet about cyberbullying not being real.
>>152594317>How can you possibly let something purely digital get under your skin like this?Almost like we're all in a... Digital Circus...
>>152594260ehhh kiwifarms tier post
>>152594317His entire lifestyle exists for validation seeking. How else do people like him chemically castrate themselves as part of a medically-normalized transmogrification ritual?
>>152593914Is he gonna kill himself over this? I hope not.
>>152594357what? it's literally what happened. There was too much CSAM, Apple removed tumblr from the app store, tumblr had to ban all porn to be reinstated because it was too hard to go through every porn post to make sure if it was legal or not, many people found the bans too strict or were convinced to leave, they left to go to twitter.
>>152593943Did you SEE the show Goose made? It's 100%, from the core, built for autistic people who never leave the internet. If you don't want that... Don't make it?
You're supposed to save fan interactions and your story fun facts for conventions in a controlled environment.But animation industry workers love the e-celeb status they can't help themselves.
>>152594317He loves online bro. The internet is his entire life.
>>152594373His odds are worse than others
>>152594373The estrogen will kill him within the next ten years
>>152594388>Comparing a drama queen showrunner to HitlerWebsite from Hell
>>152594384https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-46275138Tumblr has been removed from Apple's app store because it let some users post images of child sexual abuse.The social network's app was removed on 16 November but the reason for it being unavailable has only just come to light.In a statement it said the illegal images got through because its filters failed to spot them.It said getting the app re-listed was a "priority" but has given no date for when it might be available.Tumblr gave more details about why it was taken off Apple's store after being approached by tech news site Cnet with a claim that indecent images of children were the cause.
>>152594046>Gooseworx says Pomni and Jax are the main charactersImagine if the last episode reveals that they are siblings IRL.
>>152594373I hope so
Imagine if Murder Drones had to say explicitly that Uzi and V are the main characters leads and N was the side characterI think that's what is causing so much seething
>>152594384Why was a liberal tranny shithole like tumblr full of cp?
>>152593943The problem is when you make a show that attracts LGBTQ fags you get WAY WORSE mentally ill fans. Theyre THE most toxic types of fans.Remember how Homestuck was previously THE most mentally ill and unstable fanbase? Well guess what how many of them are gay and trans?
>>152594046>Gooseworx says Pomni and Jax are the main charactersI mean...being a main character doesn't preclude the possibility of Jax being an awful person. Villains are main characters too.(And I'm not necessarily saying Jax is a villain, I'm just saying he can be a main character and still be antagonistic as well).
>>152594031>>152594018Autists on the internet raging that their preferred characters aren't getting shipped more and/or are taking on bigger or smaller roles in the story.
>>152594534>all those NEETSI can't.
>>152593943Don't be animated
>>152594534>are you employed?
Some Autistic fan is gonna shoot gooseworks cause of this wont they
>>152594534>No>No (Other reasons)Kek
>>152593914>Trying to appeal to the good nature of a fandomlollmao
>>152594534what loathsome data KEK
>>152594046>bro>rnKill all zoomers
>>152593943Don't bait them with promises of lore then pull a sequel trilogy and screech FUCK YOU TOXIC ENTITLED HATERS when you spitefully refuse to deliver
>>152594534Wonder how many of those identifying as gay are just "transbians" or "gay trans boys" that are addicted to hentai
>>152594523it had the fandom teenagers, the social justice people, and the people that were there for the porn, adult or pedo the pedos loved being on a site filled with teenagers and social justice people promoting "sex work is work" to teenagers. because tumblr lets you create multiple blogs, one person could run both a social justice blog and a porn blog
>>152594534>cis otherwhat the fuck does that even mean?
>>152594166>The only one who seems to take the hint is Toby Fox, who only posts stuff on social media once in a blue moonFor all the deserved shit I could give about Undertale and Deltarune, I will say I do genuinely respect how Fox handles his own presence in relation to fans. That screenshot of the interview he did where he straight up refused to answer any bullshit leading questions that could have sparked drama was fantastic and should be used as a blueprint for all content creators whenever they deign to comment on their own work.
>>152594735The proper way to respond
>>152594770damn, he's got grace. no wonder he's able to move up into places like Nintendo, he's not a liability
>>152594046>Beloved internet celebrity and indie animation billionaire Gooseworx (she/her) cyberbullied today by horde of incel femboys (they/them).
>>152594735He directly acknowledged fan speculation into the game in a way that got /v/ to argue about it to this day.Not nearly as bad as some other people but I'd be careful with how this thing goes on.
Goose rightfully admitted fault over the ordeal. People making this about the fans being unreasonable or whatever are missing the bigger picture.
>>152593943Be actively hostile towards anyone under 25
>>152594770wtf tobyfox is a chud?!
>>152594523While the userbase might have been majority liberal women, moderation on old tumblr was almost non-existent. It was where all the loli artists who now have basically no options but baraag used to post because they didn't get banned. Concerns over potential liability for hosting porn (including CP) is probably why the owners offloaded it to Yahoo who thought they could manage and moderate it, but it turned out most of the traffic was for the porn and they lost literally a billion dollars by banning it.
>>152594046This is gonna make Ms /co/ extra fun to troll this fall.
>>152593914>her>She
>>152594907Mmm, I love Hershey's chocolate
>>152593943Express your creativity through a new form of sportsball.
>>152593914The post that destroyed an entire fandom
>>152594921>completely reasonable criticism
>>152594932>check user's reddit account>hasn't backpedaled after it had blown up the fandombased
>>152594921>GalaríaDon't you have a Costco to put out
>>152593914
>>152594829Ironically the overblown response is the awful fanbase infighting because they want to be seen as the good ones instead of realizing anything with a fanbase of mostly terminally online children is bad
>>152593914This is such a non-issue but I thought Goose would of been smart enough not to have a public meltdown.
>>152594954People just fighting with ghosts constantly. Actual mental illness
>>152593943If it gets super popular its bound to have one form. Your option from there is to just not interact with it much or not let it get to you.
>>152594534>Homestonks are over half trangutans>the MOST common configuration of brain problems is is being an autistic schizo, twice as common as "none"
>>152594921>>152594932I think the "please read my entire post next time if that's your only takeaway" is what broke Goose kek. It's like someone wasn't actually talking to them with rose-tinted glasses for once and the criticism was totally constructive and she couldn't reason with it. It's completely spot on, too, and that's why she crashed out.
>>152593914>Some people (reportedly) overreacted to Goose's bad writing and now it is being blown out of proportion to the point that we got an official company statement over itI am starting to move from sympathetic to just annoyed that Gooseworx is this retarded.>>152594484Muder Drones also didn't string, let's say Thad fans along by constantly including him in stuff like he was a major character only to outright say that he wasn't two episodes before the end.The entire cast outside of Pomni was treated as more or less equal until episode five when Jax became the center of everything so I have no idea how he didn't expect at least some controversy.
>>152594534>are you employed?>no>not currently>no (other reasons)bro these are all the same, what fucking moron put these here?>>152594921>deuteragonistDon't know where they pulled this shit from but it has never been true
>>152594357trying to reinforce associations to porn is a current anti trans angle attempted push so you’re right on the money. Look at the headlines about that state representative in Minnesota who said kids should have access to age appropriate sex ed so it’s harder for epsteins to trick them. darvo fest
>>152594954
>>152594735To bad he didn't have that mindset for Asgore.
>>152595034>Don't know where they pulled this shit fromI dunno, the pilot maybe
>>152594602>>are you employed?Looking at the data a ton of them show ages in teenager and young 20 somethings. So I would assume most won't have jobs still being in school.
>>152595060Where she was sidelined like five minutes after her intro? She was in no way a main character there.
>>152595040Kiwifarms's userbase is retarded in a lot of ways, for a website that's happily throwing around words like "nigger" they sure get uppity about seeing a boob
>>152593924Every time I think "Man, Japan is way less mentally ill than America right now" I remember that incident and go "oh, right"
>a protagonist being a bad person is enough to cause a mental breakdownI was make some comment about how the Sopranos would kill the average TADC fan but this is literal baby shit. Like would the Emperor's New Groove, or even fucking Toy Story be too much?
>>152593943stop making shows and media centered around kiddie aesthetics, I'm genuinely not kidding, make it as clear as physically possible within the first five minutes you're not making "tumblr happy neurodivergent shipping time" or you are completely fuckedit's either that or you completely ignore your fanbase to the best of your ability and refuse to interact with them beyond the most basic level necessary
>>152594046Of course Jax is one of the main characters, he's the only character besides Pomni written with the kind of initiative to move the plot forward in some way. The show revolves around him as much as it revolves around Pomni.One could make a similar argument that he's the true main antagonist of the show while Cane is just a plot device.
>>152594921>the most meaningless shit is what caused this>genuinely low functioning autistic fans apparently blew this out of proportion>the low functioning autistic creator is apparently also blowing this out of proportion>because the raggedy anne doll isnt a main character
Another win for anyone Neurotypical
>>152595040the only person that mention anything trans in this conversation was >>152594523coomers are just really annoying. they don't have to be trans to be annoying
>for years /co/ tries to gaslight me into thinking this tranny is "based" and "one of the good ones">has a mental breakdown like a little bitch over the slightest pushback instead of ignoring his autistic fanbase and not giving a single fuckIn a way you guys are right, he IS the most mentally stable tranny after all! This is as good as it gets.
>>152594534YIKES
>>152595119Honestly being online as much as he is, I feel some sort of breakdown was inevitable.It could have been worse, at least he didn't shoot up a school like other trannies have.
>>152594534As a certified Homestucker, It pains me to like this media at all.
>>152595141As a former Homestuck, it pains me that people still like it at all.
>>152595151Besides the recent team writing decent stuff for Beyond Canon, I can't really let it go. It's a part of me, I still cosplay and draw art of HS every now and then, there's also HSG on this board and I still get some laughs from it. I do love some fan adventures I see online
>>152595093you say that and kids are far more interested in Rick and Morty, Smiling Friends, and Hazbin than things actually made for kids. You won't believe me (i'm not gonna take a photos of this) but I saw a kid with a Hazbin plush sticking out of her backpack, proudly. Like 10 -12 years old. This is just the audience the shows ask for. They may not be for toddlers or kids under 8, but kids are gonna be obsessed with these shows and those are the fans that ruin it for everyone else. I think it's the general appeal of adult media that kids are drawn to. If the grown ups think it's cool, then I wanna see the show too.
>>152595089Most of the people are mad that the asshole character randomly became the main character midway through the series not at the idea of a villain protagonist. A good portion of my favorite movies are about horrible people.It was just kind of awkward and felt like a fuck you after the whole thing was set up as an ensemble show.>>152595119He was honestly pretty cool back in the shorts days and never made much of a fuss. Kind of surprised it took him until TADC to get annoying.
>>152593914What did you retards do now?
>>152595068Deuteragonists are not main characters, they're just a little above the supporting cast. Pomni is the MC, and the first trailer and the pilot did put Jax and Ragatha in a deuteragonist position. Around episode 5 and 6 Jax's position started to shift towards more of a second main character, while Ragatha was pushed aside in favor of the (imo) more interesting development between him and Pomni. "Her episode" was mostly about Jax too, so that kind of ticked a few feathers.And now, Goose confirmed that indeed Pomni and Jax are the two main characters while Ragatha is shelved. This, coupled with the fact that her communication issues with Pomni, a storyline that had been established since Episode 1, were solved off-screen, have been rightfully called out as lazy writing. The criticisms are completely valid.
>>152594046Are zoomers retarded?
I read the reddit comments that started all this, and it this whole thing seems ridiculous. That and the comments are kind of right. Why is Goose going around doing this stuff anyway? You're supposed to feed annoying parasocial fans crumbs after your work is, not during it.
>>152595172oh godthis shit will be me ~5 years into the future as a deltafag
>>152595203part of why I said aesthetics, all of those shows are 'adult media' yet they have either generally cutesy cartoon aesthetics or appeal to a very specific "bro it's so deep" audience. You won't see something like Common Side Effects or Haha, You Clowns getting huge fandoms because they aren't presented with a certain level of aesthetically pleasing cartooniness while simultaneously being shows for adults, that and social media has completely destroyed the line between children and adults on what they actually consume because it just becomes a popularity contest feedback loop of "people talking about thing and gassing it up = gets more popular and children just watch it regardless of if it's for them or not"
>>152595282I get wanting to lambast babybrained fans for not understanding a bad person can be the protagonist. But it was definitely poorly written, and set up with how much forced Jax we were made to deal with halfway through the show. It's also annoying how little development some of the other characters had, or how little their interpersonal relationships were explored. There's two episodes left, so it's too late now.
Does Goose lurk here by any chance?
>>152595326Probably. She comes off as the type to do so.
>>152595282That is what gets me. From what we have seen the things that set this off are bitchy but not exactly wrong Reddit comments from people who didn't realize that they were talking directly to the creator and some likely underage autists on Twitter saying some slightly mean things.They are acting like some people tried to light Gooseworx's house on fire or some shit.It's an odd one.
>>152595326definitely, considering goose had a reddit alt to argue with people about the show
I wager a lot of it is also just bad faith faggots. You know, literal trolls that likes making life worse for others for fun.
>>152595320Sometimes it's just the way the creator draws anon. Goose created Blue Channel and that still attracted a lot of children because it was a horror concept. Think of how gritty the marvel movies are. They're not colorful or cartoony at all, and yet kids still like them (adult men like them more but they're marketed for father and son shared interests). Marvel movies are dramatic and have a childish storytelling that kids can latch onto.I don't think we really have control over what kids are into when they need something that is unique for their generation. Star Wars and Star Trek doesn't do well at all for kids BECAUSE there's generations before them that control the fandom and the direction of the series.
>>152595204>Most of the people are mad that the asshole character randomly became the main character midway through the series not at the idea of a villain protagonist. >RandomlyIt was hinted at pretty early on that Jax was going to have a pivotal role in the story.You got your ensemble story either way.
>>152595119Landwhale Furry FujoQUEEN Won the mental fortitude trials.
>>152594046>Pomni and jax are the main charactersgooseworx doens't know the definition of MC.Pomni has like 50% of screentime and her appearance sets the events in motion. Everyone else is a deuteragonist who shares equal screentime.Everyone had a dedicated episode filtered through an interaction with pomni. Just because jax may have 2 or may end up fucking pomni irl, doesn't make him MC
>ignore show because it looks annoying gay>show attracts annoying and gay people>they all try to kill each other because they're annoying and gayYou cannot trust anything with kiddie aesthetics and "le dark themes" to ever be good. The track record is so fucking poor, its a style that attracts shitty writers who are emotionally immature and only that.
>>152595376Another reason that hasn't been mentioned, that Goose even apologized for >>152594267 is that she says A LOT of canon things and factoids in random comments that we won't ever see on screen. I feel like that's a lot of homework for the community to keep track of when there isn't an official place for people to referance to. I saw someone make a video of all the "weird things Goose says on tumblr" because she replied to questions one random day and people asked legit questions about the direction of the series. If I didn't discover that video, I'd likely also be surprised that Jax suddenly becomes the main focus of the show when he didn't do much to show he was someone we should think about as much as the others (cause he's generally unlikable). I'm ok with him being said asshole, and getting a character arch, but if I suddenly had to feel sorry for him without knowing that goose told people to expect this, I understand why they'd complain.
>>152595368Marvel movies still attract kids if only for the fact that it's comic book characters doing comic superhero things on the big screen and that's literally the shit they love but you do have a point there. As for your last point that's probably impossible now, kids don't want objectively 'kiddie things' anymore because of how early they get introduced to mass media and social online spaces and things that ARE made for them and manage to find success inevitably also bring in adults that somewhat end up warping said things in some way, the turnaround time on kids' media is shorter that its ever been because what we used to consider 'childhood' is too.
>>152595407Is Goose finding out that Pomni and Jax are the least likeable characters because the archs of the others are more relatable? The series spends more time developing them to suddenly shift into the two characters who we know nothing about and seem to be royal cunts for fun?
Based
>>152595299Hold me anon, we still have a lot of life to live
>>152594216I know, right? The very last thing Goose should be doing is getting into internet drama
>>152595433So the creators of "cartoony lookin stuff" are not TRYING to appeal to kids on purpose, it's just the style will visually pull in that audience because it's NEW and different. Hazbin is holding on by a thread because of how unintersting the story is and equally something like Fiona and Cake is ONLY made for adults. Kids aren't watching that but it's written like a toddler is expected to be it he room with the mother.
>>152594770lmao. that's based.
>>152595435>Is Goose finding out that Pomni and Jax are the least likeable characters because the archs of the others are more relatable? Tpomni is the most realistic and relatable char, and the one that even their body language is intentionally made to feel like a hapless, plain chick her irl age, besides maybe the fat weeb.basically pomni -> fat weeb -> zooble -> ragatha -> kinger -> jax>bud whykinger is comic reliefjax's antisocial habits are extremely forced and wouldn't happen irl, he's designed to be a sadboi fucktoy for tweens.ragatha is a 30yo with a degree and literally behaves as if she's 15 down to having teenage crying episodespomni, fat weeb and zooble are basically irl woman stereotypes, shown as is which is a frankly a breathe of fresh air compared to the last 15 years of subversion and ironyslop.
>>152595407>Pomni has like 50% of screentime and her appearance sets the events in motion.You say that, but as far as active participation and center of conflict goes, Jax is consistently there. Even from the first episode, while pomni is looking for the exit, he's the one making plays to move the plot.
>>152595172stopping by to call you basedthat is all
>>152595418>she
>>152595465Cartoony styles are just inevitably subjected to certain stereotypes and expectations more often than not, there's a reason why for a long while what people saw as "adult animation" was some variation of Simpsons/Family Guy or had a certain level of ugliness to it as a signal to parents that this wasn't a "kids show" because otherwise they'll just immediately assume it's all Spongebob or Disney and get pissy when they hear a 'FUCK' belted out at max volume from the TV. A lot of these shows are just straight up limited because of said expectations that come with either the artstyle, the legacy of being a kids' show spinoff, or both, and while they explore more mature and adult themes and settings they're gimped in either what they're allowed or willing to actually portray
>>152595484Pomni's always been a cunt tho, she's just gotten comfortable enough to finally show it. That's what we're learning about her. (I don't hate her, shes just cuntty).Zooble isn't a cunt she's just tired and sick of this shit, so at the very least she's more kind. My biggest gripe, and I see this a lot, is why did Pomni show up for all the characters to finally bond with each other? It feels like some characters finally got the development they needed BECAUSE Pomni showed up. What about her attitude made them finally open up? Why didn't anyone else ever question Kinger being smarter in the dark? Goose wants to be vague about all this because it's about Pomni and yet, the narrative naturally brings up these questions.
>>152594954>ermm ALL popular things have bad fandoms actuallyWrong.Breaking Bad never had a "bad fandom" problem.The Sopranos never had a "bad fandom" problem.This is explicitly an issue with the show being a hacky "kiddie thing but dark" affair which only annoying retards like.
>>152595523>Pomni's always been a cunt tho, she's just gotten comfortable enough to finally show it. What
>>152595523>What about her attitude made them finally open up?protagonismpomni has the protagonist personality trait
>>152595515actual talk with adults now, they grew up on family guy, so a lot of that series is nostalgic and lovable. People who grew up with simpsons don't really like family guy AS MUCH as simpsons. Kids don't like either now because the animation style looks "old".
Wait, this has nothing to do with his vore account being dugged up?
>>152593914There's only one main character and it's PomniGoosetwerks isn't a good writer and this show sucks anyway like all Glitch shows
>>152594046>>152594103>jax is an abuserthat fan doesn't get that main characters can bad people or even villainous>>152594539>I mean...being a main character doesn't preclude the possibility of Jax being an awful person. Villains are main characters too.>(And I'm not necessarily saying Jax is a villain, I'm just saying he can be a main character and still be antagonistic as well).Ok looks like someone else already pointede this out before me. I'll also add that even protagonists can be bad people.
>>152595536She works at a bank right? I bet she rejects lones to people on food stamps. >>152595536I got no better way to put it. She caved into being evil too quickly cause she was attracted to bunny dick or something. She let Jax convince her that Ragatha was lame. Ragatha IS lame, but you catch on real quick she's gotta hide her negative side to make sure Mother doesn't hate her or look like a dissapointment. Pomni took too long to figure that out.ALSO, Pomni being a big coward is equally annoying. I get she wanted Kinger to confirm which button to press, but she straight up just didn't press it after everyone else was telling her to. Didn't Jax already teach you to just go with it? Trust the narrative? (Cane did play Jax like a fiddle though, not her fault).
What are the odds that Glitch tries to milk TADC after episode 9 without Goose?
>>152595243>the second main character isn't a main character!Keep talking out of your ass. Never mind that Jax would be the deuteragonist, not Ragatha. You could make an arguement for her being a tritagonist, but really she's just the most important supporting character. It's been her role from the beginning.>Ragatha is shelved.[citation needed]>This, coupled with the fact that her communication issues with Pomni, a storyline that had been established since Episode 1, were solved off-screen, have been rightfully called out as lazy writing. The criticisms are completely valid.We didn't need to see that on screen. Would five minutes of them awkwardly talking really have improved the show? No. Especially given the limited nature of the show, choosing what to keep and not keep is an important call and this just wasn't important enough to make it in. The little chat at the end of They All Get Guns was enough to make clear what was going to happen. Do you need to see every character fuck on screen too in romance movies? We can all understand what happened without seeing it. At least, those of us who aren't brain addled retards.
>>152595569The jax maid outfit was instantaneous, and shallow. I'm sure someone's gonna try and do a spin off with new characters.
>>152595523>What about her attitude made them finally open up? Probably more about timing than anything. Pomni fell through the cracks pretty hard and effectively did a speed run of everyone else's emotional trauma in dealing with the circus. Noclipped, ended up in the void, nearly abstracted within 5 minutes of arriving. Beyond that, she was a fairly sane and well adjusted person on the outside, which is in shirt supply in the circus.
>>152595523>My biggest gripe, and I see this a lot, is why did Pomni show up for all the characters to finally bond with each other? It feels like some characters finally got the development they needed BECAUSE Pomni showed up. What about her attitude made them finally open up? Why didn't anyone else ever question Kinger being smarter in the dark?New person comes in and changes the social dynamic. You'll see it happen in your social groups as they ossify.
>>152595569They won't do that because it's run by people who understand that money isn't the only currency in business, there's a second currency called "customer faith".
>>152595569After shit like this, would you? I would run as far away from it as I could, at least for long enough for the fandom to cool off.
did the new ep drop
>>152595376>It was hinted at pretty early on that Jax was going to have a pivotal role in the story.Can't say I caught it. Hell, there barely was an overarching story until we entered the Jax sadboy arc.Got any examples pre-episode five examples that couldn't be mistaken for shtick?
>>152595584Kekalek
>>152593943Be a man and put your foot down.
>>152595569At the most, if anything, we would get a one off comic as a limited time print about an adventure.
>>152595532The Sopranos had a pretty famously angry reaction to the ending back in the day.
>>152595607LOL
>>152595593>Muh fandomWho gives a motherfucking shit? I'd kill for a legion of artists who are obsessed with my creation. I just won't engage with them personally. I don't give a fuck what they do otherwise. I'd milk that shit like no tomorrow
>>152595569not very likely because your audience is hyperautists that actually react to this kind of thing accordinglyit's not like they're making sports games or CoD or something where they can shit out a product with the expectation that they'll make money regardless of how trash it is
>>152594523>Why was a liberal tranny shithole like tumblr full of cp?tumblr used to be valued at around a billion dollars. it was a lot larger (at least for the time) than it is now and a far wider variety of people sued it.
>>152595601There's no incentive to be a man anymore, the (((boss))) will just ship me off to Iran to die while women sip tea and fuck Chad.The troons, while delusional, have a point
>>152595581>>152595582>Beyond that, she was a fairly sane and well adjusted person on the outside, which is in shirt supply in the circus.Right, and i complain because we know we're not going to get much else to explain all this. What we see is what we get with this series and our imaginations have to fill in the gaps. My question to you is, (knowing the show doesn't want us to know) how can we be so sure she's stable? She doesn't tell much about herself other than she obviously wandered into this building alone and Cane only allows her to remember enough details to inform the others about her life. The theory now from fans is that Cane recycles personalities. If Pomni is just Ribbit in a different form, then none of that backstory of her being an urban explorer could be true. >>152595576Quoting myself here, this theory would allow for Glitch to keep making new Digital Cirus forever because the characters are recycled and put into new forms. Goose can go do something else.
>>152593914It is a mistake for a creator to interact with fans to this degree. The toxicity is cause by the parasocial nature of the fandom, and when you converse like this directly (but also authoritatively as the creator) you only worsen that parasocialness.
>>152595333>She
>>152595620>I'd kill for a legion of artists who are obsessed with my creation.Would you be willing to be stalked, threatened, harassed, ect.?
>>152595595>Can't say I caught it. Off the top of my head for EP. 1?First one to speak and address pomni, first one to cut to the chase on their situation, establishes the groups for the gloinkquest, offers to go visit kaufmo, kicks Kinger and Gangle into the gloink hole, and regularly breaks the 4th wall. Just from the first episode, it's established he's a driving force setting the time tones for everyone else's interactions.
>>152595643YesI'm that lonely
>>152595643Also>Muh checking death threatsWhenever I hear shit like this I roll my eyes. Just block them, turn off the computer and move on
>>152595515IMC The Simpsons has always been considered a kids' show simply because it's animated, it doesn't matter what the subject matter is, eight-year-olds watched that shit when it first came on air.
>>152594735>>152594770For as much as I dislike his works I respect him for this.>>152595119All things considered this is a minor meltdown, it's just that this fan base is mostly children and women hence why everything is blown out of proportion and shit.
I do not understand how this became a controversy.It was very obvious that Pomni was the main character, and the tranny made it public that he really likes Jax.Like wtf did people exspect?
>>152595661Fox leaned into this anyway with all the toys and cereal tie ins even way back in the 90s. I also remember the movie being heavily advertised on Nickelodeon
>>152595569In terms of animation? Nothing more then what they already do for those Glitch hotel skits?Merch wise? Yeah of course, thats forever
>>152595638>how can we be so sure she's stable? Mostly from how she acts and behaves. She's very social and adjusts quickly no matter who she's paired with. And it's not just because she's a pushover, she doesn't hesitate to challenge Jax when he starts acting cold to her
>>152595638>Quoting myself here, this theory would allow for Glitch to keep making new Digital Cirus forever because the characters are recycled and put into new forms. Goose can go do something else.what if they make a show that follows the evil versions of the characters?
>>152595661Kids were REALLY into demon slayer for a while there, over any american cartoon. If we're talking about an animation style being too cartoony, these are shows made for teenagers in Japan, it's not a surprise that it would appeal to the same demographic, just it's not necessarily the same as "adult animation" in the states. (cause the US is stupid about "protecting the children" and the lies they come up with about it).
>>152593943Tell them to fuck off good and early.
>>152595670Every adult property in the 90s had a toy or cartoon tie in.Movie executives understood kids wanted to be seen as cool adults and wanted to see adult media so making a cartoon version to sell some plastic was very common.The movie Virus had toys, if you told me that someone other than games workshop planed to make event horizon toys I would have believed you.
>>152595668Shipping fandom culture leads to melties, it's that simple. Not just the active shipping itself but the whole posture it breeds of thinking it makes sense to just latch onto your favorite characters and project onto them to an insane degree.
>>152593943Make one of the characters say "retard" in the first episode.
>>152595708or just don't talk to them at alla creator has exactly zero obligation to entertain interacting with a fandom based on their work beyond making the work to begin with and doing so just encourages parasocial behavior
>>152595595Well its fairly obvious just based on the fact that hes the most antagonistic force of the group. Caine hides the truth of the world but hes oblivious to most of the world himself and hardly poses a threat. Jax is the only one that is actively hostile since EP 1 by literally feeding Zooble to those fucking whatchamafucks.When you have a whole group who basically can get along fine despite their quirks and hang ups, theres always gotta be one fuck whos willing to just fuck that shit up. By that very nature that character, in case Jax, is destined to be pivotal
>>152594534LMAOHOLY SHIT
>>15259556995%
>>152595698I think that'd be fine, but people would quickly get annoyed that Goose wasn't involved and it'd feel like milking the content. Cane and Bubble would likley be the only two characters that would return without any changes, but all the VAs would come back to be new characters and more shenanigans. >>152595688I understand, I'm just doing the "WHAT IF SHE ISN'T" challenge cause Goose likes to fuck with the narrative to subvert expectations. We have two episodes left to mind fuck people. I laugh at those who are "surprised" and emotional cause there hasn't been a show like this in their lives, and they take everything seriously.
>>152595699To be fair, this was cool in social media, teens want to fit in so they watched it.I don't even have TikTok or the likes but kids just got hyped over edits of sakuga moments from it.At some point it was to fit in but then they just liked it for what it was, to be honest it bored me to tears but I'm too old for that shit.
>>152595710It was more than that with the simps.It got nominated for about a dozen kids choice awards and is generally considered a family show.
>>152595715not enough, the rest of the show will still grow a shitty fandom the only difference will be people holding the 'retard' moment over that specific character and refusing to acknowledge character growth or plot development because of itjust have someone get raped or something, sexual violence is an automatic no-no for these people
Someone post the link of the reddit post bitching about the series
>>152595699I'm still amazed how popular Zenitsu is. He's not even tumblrman sexy, he's just an outrageously awful person who is literally only tolerable when he's asleep. No clue why people flock to him.
>>152595745Ya gotta do what smiling friends is doing and make everyone bully pim for no reason and that'll weed out the people you don't want watching your show. Either they're cool with everything or they're not and it's best to just move onto something else. Get a hobby.
>>152593914What happened?
>>152595646All of those things sound like pretty typical comedy troublemaker things. None of them read as particularly significant even in retrospect.Like the whole 'addressing Pomni first' thing wasn't any more significant than say Gangle being the first human to appear on screen in the theme song.>>152595726Typically that would lead to an outright antagonist not a secondary protagonist who drives the plot.
>>152595641Go be an annoying faggot somewhere else
>>152595755Do you want toxic fujos?Because that is how you get toxic fujos.
>>152595743Yeah I know, but they weren't the only ones, so many adult properties had kid merch.Simpsons were very big, so was Garfield for a while. I still remember some buttfuck politician talking about the Simpsons and shit but in the end everyone watched it because it was very funny and we'll written.
>>152595711Shipping truly ruins fucking everything, doesn't it.
>>152593914TADC's popularity among adults has always felt forced. It feels like it's popular solely because it's popular. Meaning that adults latched onto it because kids watch it all the time.
>>152595643Yeah. I'd turn off my computer. If they wanna pull up they'll get aired out.
>>152595753Never seen an episode of this show, so I'm gonna say he's the blond twink that japanese shows like to include to be pals with their japanese protag.
Interesting how fans in the west were relatively well behaved (yes, even bronies and sonic fans) until zoomers entered the pictureI'm just noticing, that's all.
>>152595771George Bush Sr. I think
>>152595776It's not popular with adults outside of faggots that want to fuck the characters.Only reason you see adults online talking about it is because they are YouTubers or content creators talking about the next popular thing. I hate to break it to you but if you make content regarding animation you have to like or at least talk about the next big thing even if you personally don't enjoy it.
>>152595780Why do so many millennials deny how cringe they were online?
>>152595770You saying fujos as in real people? Or the fujo in the series.I'm all for the toxic gays in the series to be THE WORST to each other. Stolis is better as a rapist. And Blitz needs to say retard more. Show the balls you say you have.But as for the fandom? I don't know. You're probably right.
>>152595758>All of those things sound like pretty typical comedy troublemaker things.Would you like me to make a list of what everyone else was doing during the pilot for comparison?Because it's far more 1-dimensional and easy to list. Pilot was 25 minutes, feel free to guess how much screentime everyone had respectively.
>>152595780>sonic fans, bronies, and anime fans watching TADCdertale zoomers take the title of "most reviled fandoms on earth" away from them.
>>152595776>>152595796arn't we adults in here talking about it? I feel like this is the most normal way to be interested in a show. I think it took off after we finally got episode 7 but I also like seeing Gangle get a nice arch. Worst episode was 3 because it was trying to be funny OR scary and not picking one.
>>152595809It'll never surpass Steven Universe. Which won't surpass homestuck.
>>152595799>Y-YOU'RE CRINGECringe is just being honest to yourself and not being cattle who falls victim to "social pressure" lmao
>>152595780I'm old. Don't come on here lying like that.
>>152594921>Mental breakdown>Over fucking nothingTrans rights?
>>152595093>stop making shows and media centered around kiddie aestheticsThis.>>152595203The Amazing Digital Circus is a kids show. So is Hazbin's Hotel. You can tell by its aesthetics. TADC in particular looks like a FNAF fan animation. No shit it has a huge fandom of kids. Animation in general is more prone to attracting those kinds of fandoms.Rick and Morty and Smiling Friends are somewhere in-between. They are actually adult shows, but they are not as edgy as Family Guy or South Park that have constant gore and rape jokes. R&M also pushed the fans to theorize (again, remember FNAF). Not that no child has ever watched South Park or Family Guy, but in those cases it's more "I'm gonna watch something for grown-ups because I'm a grown-up" (think GTA) than "let's create an autistic fandom around this".Honestly if your show, videogame or webcomic resembles FNAF in any way you are bound to attract the FNAF audience.
>>152595808Fine, you win, anon. He had more screentime in the episode one B-plot so he has always been the main character.
>>152595780It's because Zoomers have more avenues to interact with creators than millennials did.It's that simple, don't look into it more than that. It's just the worlds the grew up in
>>152595827Yeah, adult swim knew kids watched R&M and for a good while had a limit on tv-ma episodes to one per season (broadcast, not streaming)I think they finally relaxed that a couple seasons ago
>>152595827>attract the FNAF audience.homeschool kids who their parents don't like that the 10 commandments aren't in the classrooms... got it.
>>152594103>>152594046I have yet to see a third comment like this.
>>152595818CWC and justinrpg's crimes were just being hopelessly autistic. Bronies were just fat and stank like shit.Zoomers are 90% monstrous orcs who want to kill you for "making problematic ships" or "being an abuser" but will cry victim when you start punching back. I feel bad for the 10% of them who are cool and chill as fuck. It must be miserable being surrounded by a generation that is every negative trait of boomers (sociopathic), millennials (quick to take offense), and gen x (conformist) wrapped into one.
>>152595040Every trans woman I’ve met online has a porn addiction and always asks me “if I’m just into drawings?”
>>152595745My suggestion is to just be openly judgmental about fat women from the word go.
>>152595816To be fair, Millennials have basically completely come to their senses regarding Steven Universe. You ever see somebody tweet about Steven Universe these days? Comment after comment of hate. The spell has been broken, to Millennials' credit.
>>152595842What's gen alpha's crimes? Not being able to read?
>>152595780fandoms were never really "well-behaved" we just never had an open window into everyone's lives or open podiums for the worst of the worst to amplify their voices like we do nowbrony culture dodged a massive fucking bullet by being at its zenith over ten years ago
>>152595828>He had more screentime in the episode one B-plotMore than that, he's the only one that actively participated in both the A and B plot.I'm just saying, a lot more of the plot revolves around him than you realize, and when it doesn't, it's because he's literally been gagged or bound somewhere.
>>152595816Steven Universe’s fanbase is overrated in retardation powerscaling discussions. Undertale/Deltarune clears it and any other /co/ property by a mile.
>>152595829>It's because Zoomers have more avenues to interact with creators than millennials did.That's not true. In the past there were entire forums dedicated to TV shows or even just ships. I remember the Teen Titans ones. Back then fan pressure had a lot more power over the media they consumed (because the Internet was brand new).Nowadays we have "subreddits" which fullfil a similar role, but corporations have learned by now that the Internet is often all noise and that the loudest fans often don't represent the majority (or don't actually know what they want), so they tend to ignore them. The problem comes with those indie shows/creators that don't have any executive telling them to not pay that much attention to the subreddit.
>>152595842CWC maces GameStop employees and rapes old ladiesAnd he's a troon
>>152595810Yes but we are actually adults interested in animation and animators, or at least I hope so.Just saying that in this fan base it's weird to find someone that enjoys a weird indie animation for what it is without needing porn of it. It's a sad reality but I won't change people that grew with nsfw channels in discord and think it's normal to voice how horny you are to everyone online.Anyways, there's always a degree of unauthentic love for popular shows when they have a huge fan base as you are often not allowed to dislike them. It's why it feels that the adults in the room are forced to like it.Then there are the Minecraft YouTubers seeking something with a kiddie fan base to groom others, but that's besides the point.
>>152595861> In the past there were entire forums dedicated to TV shows or even just ships.WHOA!!?ENTIRE FORUMS!!!?!
>>152595846SU was made by millennials, censored by Gen Xer studio exts saying that it needed to be dumb downed for zoomers, and zoomers made the fandom a shit stain. Most millennials weren't watching cartoons when that show aired. Again, we're trying to blame millennials for shit zoomers do.
>>152595862Somebody pointed out that Chris-Chan probably would have become a slightly-weird gas station attendant if it weren't for the internet. Online is responsible for him becoming the monster he's become. It's a reminder of the great evil the internet is capable of.
>>152595773It does, yes. The fundamental issue with it isn't even the insistence on unrealistic gay sex, it's that the shipper has to accustom herself to contorting the narrative and characters to justify projecting her own desires and preferences onto them. Once you get into the habit of thinking you can just decide what a character written by someone else is as long as you base it on overinterpreting some unimportant detail, it's delulu and retardation all the way down.
>>152595851Gen alpha is genuinely the victim here. They were born into a hellish world that treated them like disposable cattle from the first day they crawled out of their mom's wet hole.Zoomers should have known better. It's hard to explain but they seem to take pleasure in torturing and ostracizing other people.
>>152594295Yeah they should've chosen to not make millions of dollars, just don't produce your biggest success it's that easy
>>152595869>Just saying that in this fan base it's weird to find someone that enjoys a weird indie animation for what it is without needing porn of it.I don't think its that rare. Horny posters tend to be loud, annoying, and stupid so it may seem they're the majority when they're actually not. Personally, I'm obsessed with TADC and think the characters are cute, but the thought of actually masturbating to them makes me sick.
>>152595861More like corporations have learned how to engineer the online discourse and use it as a marketing tool. There’s very little genuine discussions to be had about media nowadays, on Internet forums, irl, or in video essays that are just ads/pseudo intellectual circle jerks featuring your favorite art ho lib talking head or right wing chud.
>>152595884On the risk of sounding like /pol/.I can't help but feel that they were pretty much trained to make struggle sessions from birth, but since everything is so retarded they are just doing it to feel good about being right and punishing someone else for being wrong.Some just do it out of fear and to not be the one the others pile over since it's easy to say the current thing and dog pile someone that didn't than deal with everyone else attacking you for being silent because nowadays kids are being taught that silence is violence.If you think that's too political, think about chickens pecking the weakest one to death over stress of being caged. You gotta peck the weakest one so other don't peck at you, it's just that but with opinions over incredibly retarded shit.
>>152595869hope is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.I guess i'm on both sides because I like animation AND weird porn. I dont need the porn, but if the show is going to throw in it's fetishes and get sexual, it's just apart of the appeal OF the show by design?Like it started out as a cool indie project when they say that the characters can't swear, but eventually when Bubble says "sex appeal", we're now all ages and not only trying to appeal to babies.
Making your series horny or problematic on some level is recommended because the grit will filter out some of the worst humanity has to offer. Stuff like incest, age gaps, sexy character designs, dark themes, rape, etc. done in light amounts can paradoxically keep the psychopaths away.I'm not sure why this is the case, but I think maybe psychopaths refuse to publicly be seen with "problematic" materials because it harms their false, squeaky clean image they must uphold to draw in their impressionable victims.
>>152593943Create something that doesn't appeal to teenagers or pre-teens.The reason this shit happens is because most of the audience is 13-20 years old and teenagers are a bunch of overly emotional psychopaths who don't understand that their actions have consequences. It's why it's so common with 'mature' cartoons and other properties/genres that aim for a teen or young adult demographic (see, anime, video games, etc).
>>152593943If your show gets popular enough, a healthy group of fans is impossible. Best you can do is straight up avoid interacting with the fanbase instead of potentially giving in to the most toxic parts.
>>152595932Honestly I don't see much difference in the way teens and adults act online these days
>>152595905>they should've chosen to not make millions of dollarsYou say that like they somehow knew that Cooper was going to shit gold in their lap.
>>152594046this is the most nothingburger thing ever how the fuck are people getting mad
>>152595884I really feel like alphas have to be the ones who react hard against the status quo, which as of now is a nightmare of performative idpol virtue signalling being both expected, encouraged and punished if you don't engage in it, on both sides. The only rebellion against that shit is to reject it entirely and not give a single fuck what other people want or expect from you and tell them as much. I hope I'm right.
>>152595931When nuanimaniacs was being released, there were accounts of adults trying to protect the minors, and any instance of the "offensive" stuff had to be shut down and culled from their niche community. Turned out those same adults were actively trying to get too friendly to children and were rightfully called out. This happens more often then you think, so you're certainly onto something here.
So basicly:>Gooseworx's cuts into a discussion on Reddit about some of his character mismanagement with an Alt account.>Guy argues back fairly without even knowing that he's talking to Goose.>Goose deletes his account and has a meltdown, and then people give him ass pats. >Glitch has to put out a statementIt's interesting seeing people spin Goose into being the victim
>>152593943Appeal to the male gaze.I am 100% serious.No women. No drama.
>>152595780Zoomer take. twittertok changed this for sure but it didn’t invent it>>152595776It feels that way to children in fandom but they are just adults exclusively watching kids TV because they never stopped, no different from /co/. They get each other into it.
>>152594770wow it was really that easy huh
>>152595523>Pomni's a cuntPomni is a highly intelligent Ai created by Caine using what he thinks best would be able to integrate and mingle among the humans so their issues can be both fixed and Caine can better understand what it is they want. Everything about her is to learn from the players so Caine can do his job and not lose more humans>Zooble likes abandon house exploration so Pomni was also given this interest so the both can now relate to each other>Jax is suicidal so Pomni shows the most patience and understanding towards him despite how much of a ravenous faggot he always is>Telling Ragatha to be more open and honest and going into insta-therapy mode for Gangle after seeing her freak out>Caine not being too overly concerned with Pomni ending up in the void because he knows she's not "real" and he can remake her wheneverAnything involving Pomni doing stuff by herself, alone or unprompted, is just Caine committing to the bit so she comes off as more humanPomni is a cunt because she's an ever constant developing Ai made by Caine's limited knowledge of humans, so she's agreeable and helpful but also doesn't want to step on anyone's toes which can lead to Ragatha getting mad over Pomni taking Jax's side despite Ragatha being in the rightGooseworx didn't lie when she said Pomni was 25 years old, she's modeled after what Caine considers to be "25 years old"
>>152595959Capitulators pathologically believe rainbow ghouls are eternal victims in every scenario. How else do they go around promoting medically-normalized transmogrification for children?
>>152595931But TADC DOES have mature and dark themes
>>152595872Millenials are to blame for making that garbage quirk chungus faggot show in the first place.Zoomers are off in their own world watching object shows (made by millennials) and getting groomed on roblox (by millenials)
>>152595842>Broniesput pony porn all over the fucking place. couldn't even google a mlp without seeing it
>>152595872Millennials absolutely watched SUAgain, why do so many here try to deflect away from the shit that Millennials have done?
>>152595942Most adults that spurg out online are either 18-20 or NEETs. Most adults have their shit together and have more important things to do so you don't see them online all that much
>>152595906Not obsessed but personally I like Kinger, it's a nice design most designs are fun to watch in motion.>>152595923I'm on the side that thinks this is just a clean property made to be artistic and maybe make some money, personally I don't think they made the characters with the idea to be sexual, I do think it was made for younger teens though there's nothing wrong with an adult enjoying it for what it is.On the matter of finding it sexy; if that's what you think about it, then crank that hog to the max, as long as we don't hear about it or have to deal with the splooge of every thread becoming an image dump no one would be mad about it. I mean it, shit doesn't have to be weird but somehow it always does.
>>152595977>feelings are important mkaySo dark and challenging... Woah...This is really what millennials are impressed by, some sappy PSA level lecturing to the camera.This is the same generation that would actually get nervous when they heard the word "hell" in the DK64 intro while their parents were home lol.
>>152595959Yes, Goose got triggered by a Reddit post that wasn’t even attacking him. E-celebs are made of glass. Anything that isn’t sycophantic praise is considered hateful cyber bullying. Yes, even your favorite basedboy cries at internet criticism.
>>152595961as if star wars fans weren't the most annoying fanbase even before the disney era happened
>>152595981>Zoomers getting groomedThey’re like 20 something now. Gen Alpha is getting groomed on Roblox by Zoomers.
>>152595984because this>>152595985I felt like I had to watch the show against my will because I'd see children want to murder someone over the wrong headcanon and because a new episode dropped and I needed to understand WHY everyone was mad. Then there were youtubers who only watched because it was their job to promote the show and "speculate" about what it all meant. People outside of online spaces, didn't watch this show. It's the same issue with TADC. The adults that watch will always watch cartoons no matter what (spergs or nerds). The rest are still children wanting to feel like big boys and girls because the characters have sex appeal.
>>152595780People always the question of "Why does x piece of media need a publisher anyways?" and the typical answers revolve around distribution and marketing etc but I think the real answer is this here. Because some of these artists are too developmentally stunted to not get ragebaited by autistic children on the internet and they NEED to have an actual functioning adult in the room who can put a foot down and tell everyone to chill the fuck out like their absent father never did
>>152595931Goose put too many of his fetishes into this show and he’s genuinely too horny to be making a show marketed to kids.
>>152595984Millennials are slowly becoming irrelevant and can't cope. Boomers are still alive because God hates us and they won't give up power. Millennials were never allowed to fully develop so they complain online.Zoomers will do the same within 5 years if they aren't already.
>>152595959Getting deja vu seeing this post. Didn't something similar happened with goose sperging and getting coddled for it a while ago too?
>>152596017Zoomers are going to topple the government in straw hats and then the rest of us are gonna starve and freeze to death.
>>152595780This is the biggest goddamn lie I've ever heard
>>152596023Not if the boomers do it 1st!
>>152595884>It's hard to explain but they seem to take pleasure in torturing and ostracizing other people.Now I'll give you this one, it's true. Although this could be my confirmation bias being involved in the art community. It's insane how prudish, and trigger happy Gen Z is.
>>152596023>Zoomers are going to topple the governmentBut will they? Will they really revolt against the system?
>>152596023>Implying that the United States of Israel will still be around before it even got to that point
>>152595872anon, do you think 10 years old zoomers were the ones praising steven universe on tumblr over the queer representation crap back when the show came out?
>>152596018If this happens two more times I get a free baguel.
>>152594618Troonworx is going to shoot himself after he gets caught grooming a kid so why even bother?
>>152593914Holy fuck. This is the worst thing you can do. Don't acknowledge it. Let the fans fight it out amongst themselves. Don't jump into the fucking alligator pit, nothing good can ever come of addressing fandom drama.
>>152596017The oldest zoomers are over 25 now so they’re already going thru it, but they were better prepared from seeing millennials complain. Gen A is fucked but they also have the combined zillennial internet to adapt their expectations
>>152593914>she
>>152596031Zoomers are boomers. Boomers are aged out hippies. They had money and love and care from their parents but needed to rebel for rebel's sake, because "you're smothering me mother!" and when they get to their 50s, they're gonna end up just as conservative as boomers are. There will never be enough Alpha and Beta to vote them out of power either until they die out, and meanwhile Millennials will still be blamed for the shit zoomers did.
>>152596036yes, I was on tumblr, with 12 year olds. it fucking sucked when i found out HOW MANY CHILDREN were actually on that website.
>>152596018Would you be surprised? Capitulators, like Cooper's fans and producers, exist to coddle ghouls like Cooper at every turn.
>>152596049I'm sorry but if millennials are just going to sit back and let zoomies get into power before they can then I have no sympathy.
>>152596059Why were you on tumblr?
>>152595977nta but the modern form of 'dark and mature themes' is really just various levels of working through depression, mental illness, negative emotion, etc. because not only is it easy to have something that the entire audience can empathize with having to deal with, it conveniently makes the 'enemy' completely unproblematic because it's just dealt with through positivity and character growth naturally taking care of the issue over time, on top of presenting the "bad guys" as morally grey or ambiguous because they are also shown to have these issues. There are rarely just straight-up 'bad guys' in things anymore because everyone is misunderstood or has a backstory and an excuse and conflict resolution boils down to therapy, it's the "clean" way of doing something dark and mature
>>152596059Yeah, keep denying how millennials were the ones who founded tumblr culture.
>>152596049I do not think people are becoming more conservative, despite how ma y chuds there are online.
>>152596061Zoomers have no fear. They will ram a truck through a building to get their starbucks faster than everyone else. You can't stand back and let them have it if they're gonna trample over you to get what they want. 'Are YOU a zoomer? or a gen xer. the generation that doesn't give a shit unless it's not gonna cost them anything.
>>152596008>its da zoomers its da zoomers its da zoomersI'm noticing a pattern in your behaviour, deflecting millenial.You guys are the only disney adults too, btw. It's a 100% millenial demographic..
>>152593943Make your story good and not just have it appeal to failed theater kids.
>>152596016Clearly not enough fetishes, because it doesn't scare the hoes away. To have a good and/or productive fandom, you MUST scare the hoes.Berserk had horse rape, that scare the hoes.Made in abyss has a loli/shotacon artist, that scares the hoes.Coffin of Andrew and Leyley has incest, that scares the hoes.Sonic while autistic as hell, had a bad reputation which scares the hoes. (this is changing as the movie and sonic exe rehabilitated his image, so ironically the fandom is getting worse now) Fear and hunger is too hardcore for the hoes.Stargate is hard scifi, that scares the hoes.Hardcore autist shit like factorio or rollercoaster tycoon is inherently anti-hoe. If you could make a material out of these types of communities, you would have hoe immunity.These fandoms might not be the best, they might be nefarious at times, they might have too many chuds/transgenders/blahblahblah, but they never have hoes. TADC has hoes who fuck with you and who fuck with the fandom. Homestuck was hoe central. UT/DR has a critical mass of hoes.If you don't scare the hoes, then you get hoes and hoes start petty shit. Scare your hoes.
>>152595715that's like hecking abelist tho, high key problematic
>>152596065You were on tumblr too anon. I saw you there. Asshole out and everything. >>152596073
>>152596031They already have in nepal and madagascar.
>muh boomers, muh zoomers, muh millennials, muh gen xCan you faggots shut the fuck up?!
>>152596087I don't give a fuck about nipples and lemurs
>>152596043I would put money down on this happening someday
>>152596087Those are 3rd world shitholes. It's not happening in a country like America. People are too contempt with life to revolt.
>>152596073Shit forgot the reply.The boomers were hippy back then and at least, a lot of them finally remembered to get back into protest mode. They got complacent.
>>152596078>It's a 100% millenial demographic..yeah, that's true, and hopefully that will die because Disney can't even create media that appeals to them anymore. It's too expensive.
>>152596088just trying to kill the thread faster, i guess.gooses drama is a nothing burger. there isn't anything else interesting to talk about it.
Millennials lost any right to complain about other generations when they decided to raise their kids (alpha) on a diet of iPads
>>152596087the fact that people actually argue over shit like this online in western countries and have the leisure to act like this stuff is in any way a serious issue is enough evidence that it won't anywhere first-world
>>152596049>>152596061>>152596077This is simply ignorant of logistics. Millennials are a BIGGER generation than Zoomers and in a democracy that's going to mean they have more voting power. Millennials also seem to be smarter than Zoomers generally speaking since they grew up less-online than Zoomers.The fucking Vice President isn't a Zoomer, is he? No, he's a Millennial. AOC is a Millennial too. They're going to be the generation that gets handed power from the Boomers. They've got the numbers and the timing is going to line up.Sometimes I wonder how much Zoomer self-glazing is secretly cope.
>>152595595>didn't catch that Jax was a main character>while posting a reference to his counterpart, the main character of IHNMAIMSwhat did he mean by this
>>152596094If a revolt happens in america the rich are just going to fly to their bunkers and nuke everyone. They built this shit in the 2010s as a contingency plan in case shit goes south.It's why everything is getting drastically worse now, because now they have no fear of anything backfiring.
>>152596010I worked in a middle school and kids were into it even after it was a queer meme though. Internet audiences are just self-absorbed and only pay attention to each other. No one would pay for six seasons and a TV movie of something that didn’t make any money.
>>152596114I have no idea who does that to a child. It's certainly a millennial problem if you don't even have a VHS or DVD player left over from your parents house or something. They never gamed. They never drew on drawing pads. These are parents who were good at sports and having a kid was an obligation. Fuck them.
>>152596117Zoomers and Gen Alpha are retarded by design, education has been fully gutted. They're meant to be the slave caste and meatshields in WW3. Millennials are clearly meant to be the administrative class maintaining things for the boomers and gen x elites
>>152595760>faggot
>>152596065You are on Tumblr right now goof.
>>152596031No. Zoomers are largely nihilists. They think that actually caring about things is cringe.
>>152596125No right, it was a show for kids. Anon was saying millennials were into it more than kids were. You confirmed that said kids show appealed to kids, as it was designed to be. Now some of them are on that millennial/zoomer cusp, but that's the problem with millennials, they span a bigger gap of technology than Zoomers do. Older millennials were certainly not watching this crap, but were apart of the Disney adult problem. Those ones can be lumped in with the flaws of GenX. Younger Millennials are going to be lumped in with Zoomers, and they're annoying in their own unique way. It's that "grew up with smart phones" vs "didn't grow up with smart phones" that divides them.
>>152596129This is the reason for bullying millennials, to create an insecurity complex similar to the boomers and force a belief in bootstraps so they only use their specialized knowledge to make line go up for daddy and not to improve life for themselves or the next generation
>>152596147I mean....everything sucks. Why should they care if the things we're getting suck.
>>152596129This. Zoomers and Alpha are iPad babies
>>152596152Nah. Read. This is a regular ass lie:>People outside of online spaces, didn't watch this show. Anon was wrong. Your generational headcanon is not relevant to that.
Main character tier>pomniNext most important>Caine, ragatha, jaxPlot of the week/adds some side dialogue tier>kinger, zooble, the ribbon bitch ganglewacky dialogue only tier>bubbles, everyone else i didn't mentionwho cares what fags on the internet have to say?
Is this whole 300 post thread talking about twiiter users being mad
>>152595376>It was hinted at pretty early on that Jax was going to have a pivotal role in the story.Really? When?Episodes 1 to 4 has him be barely any more relevant than ragatha or kinger if at all. It wasn't until episode 5 that he got more focus, and episode 6 that he became a proper central character, which in a 9 episode series is not early on.
>>152595838You really don't know what you're talking about.
>>152596180Obviously the main character is the sun and that's why she's so pissed off all the time.
>>152594932Get fucked dykes. Ragatha is SHIT!
>>152594960Goose is a tranny. So obviously not.
>>152593914>>152595641>>152595333>People call this amazingly man square jawed man a she/co/ deserves the hate
>>152594523Because progressives are pedophiles like old right-wingers but they think if it's gay it's ok.
>>152594388>>152594426HITLER HITLERHITLER HITLERHITLERHITLER these retards give me nazi fatigue. Shut the fuck up and stop complaining. Your parents should have been "like the Nazis" and beat you bloody.
>>152594829Get fucked dyke.
>>152596081>incest, that scares the hoes.Nope, it does not. TCoAaA has a relatively large female fanbase.
>>152596186Episode 4 first establishes that there is more to him than just being an asshole and he can be chill sometimes. It is the Gangle episode but he definitely gets more focus than any other character there outside of Gangle and Pomni
>>152596270>pedophiles like old right-wingersIf you're talking about the Western, post-War "right-wing," which is just the left in all but outright worship of Marx, then sure.
>>1525954183 females? The other two are girls? His penis is the next thing he'll murder because he'll troon out. Goose says Jax was like him pre transition.
>>152593962Goose needs to be HANGED in the streets for what she has done
>>152595569They can't without the rights. Goose owns them right?
>>152596399>sheYes, that is my only point of contention. That and "for what [he] has done."
>>152593914Smiling Friends won
>>152596402So that was a yes
>>152593914Likelyhood of Goose joining 51% after the show end? Very high!
>>152593943You can't, just ignore them and move on.
>>152595670>>152595710They literally had Simpsons toys in Burger King Kid's Meals multiple times.
>>152596422So that was a yes :)
>>152596410>Oneyplays fans>Well adjusted Also, the real distinction is lorebaiting
>>152595783He eats baby intestines and shit so what he says is irrelevant but The Simpsons did create basedlenial retards so there's that.
>>152593943Don't pander to trannies. Simple as.
>>152595753>>152595779He's the Ron Wesley of Demon Slayer. Do you get it now?
>>152596410Smiling friends’ fanbase is not one I would use as a positive example. That’s probably because of the parasocial fans of Zach and all the internet culture bullshit they slip into the show.
>>152595780>bronies and sonic fans>well adjustedAre you underage? The former needed a containment board so they’d stop flooding every board on the site with ponies.
>>152596440Big ask for a show with a tranny showrunner.
>>152596419To?
>>152596440>>152596464>Don't hire trannies. Simple as.Fixed. Would also extend to sodomites and sapphists.
>>152593943You're at 4chan of all places. Do you honestly expect any of us here to know or to tell you the legitimate reason in good faith?
>>152593914Not gonna lie bros. I don't think Goose is gonna make it through this year,
>>152596434Oney literally likes troonworks and has multiple trans friends and even Corey is fucking one regularly he's dating one.
>>152595758>None of them read as particularly significant even in retrospect.Jax has the key to Kaufmo's room, which starts plot A and also drives plot B.
>>152596544All tbe replys are literally correct retard.
>>152596576>edgy internet creator turns out to be a capitulatorSo common it should be seen as a rule, instead of an exception
>>152596580Still doesn't sound like a major portion of them are truly serious.I rest my case.
>>152593914People should accept that Jax was the most important character after Pomni. He and Pomni act while the others just react.>Pilot.Jax drives the entire plot. He has the key to Kaufmo's room, which starts plot A and pushes Kinger and Gangle into plot B.>Episode 1.Jax throws Pomni into the other truck, which again starts plot A, and he also actively participates in plot B.>Episode 2.Jax again starts plot A by throwing Pomni and Kinger into danger. Plot B doesn't matter because he doesn't participate, and nothing interesting happens.>Episode 3.Pomni barely does anything. The most interesting parts of the episode are Jax's.>Episode 4.Jax steals the show again and opens the door to many theories.>Episode 5.Jax and Pomni steal the entire episode.>Episode 6.Again, the most interesting part is Jax, and he steals the show.
>>152594046They got AD's VA for him, ofc Jax is going to be main character
>>152593914This reminds me of the cunt i met in the psych ward who HATED jax. I dont get the insanity around hating him so much
>>152594921didnt even know they were talking to goose btw
>>152595574> Would five minutes of them awkwardly talking really have improved the show? No.Very true. What really improves the show is a drawn out abstraction sequence.
>>152595093what is a kiddie aesthetic? anything that doesn't look like family guy?
>>152593914IF I DON'T GET MORE TESSA THEN I'M GOING TO KILL MYSELF! But not before I kill Glitch's families.>>152593991>not interacting with your fandom as a creator/staffPretty much this. We weren't made to interact or to fight with this many people. It is overwhelming.
>>152593943Not catering to them would be a good start.
>>152593914I hate that people are shitting on goose and not animators who deserve it more like matt braly for that shit finale for amphibia, adam muto for ruining adventure time, or dan povenmire for being a unfunny hack and using nepotism to keep his shit shows afloat while getting much better shows cancelled to make way for his slop.
>>152595745mouthwashing has rape and is popular on tumblr, try again
>>152593943Have the fanbase be too small for it to become an echo chamberAvoid RedditMake the show unappealing to teenagersPray that regardless of all of the above it doesn't degenerate into drama and toxicity
>>152593914OOOOOOOOOOOOH! BUSTED!
>>152593943ADD SEX AND FANSERVICE,MAKE IT HETERO AS FUCK.THAT'S LITERALLY IT
what the fuck?>>152594046what the fuck?Dude, we use these ominous announcements when something ACTUALLY happens. Like when someone fucking dies, gets raped, has a drug problem, got abducted... wtf is this shit?Goose was mad at retards for a minute.... we sincerely apologizewtf...
>>152593924Please don't wish for people to be immolated.
>>152596713>mouthwashing has rape and is popular on tumblrBecause it supports their ideology that heterosexual men are the worst evil to befall the earth, from their incompetence and/or knowing malice, yes.
>>152596712I hate that /co/ is parasocial for the twitter drama of everyone who ever made a cartoon. It’s never that there was actual news about the content.
>>152596729>Because it supports their ideology that heterosexual men are the worst evil to befall the earthIf Tumblr has taught me anything its that because of 2010s era feminism that modern women in my age range deserve nothing but rape and pain as payback for ruining the zeitgeist. I hate rightoids more but if i ever got an instant army know that after i cleanse the country of the cross clutching filth the bitching cunts who ruined the left with their regressive puritanism and misandry will be next on the chopping block.
>>152595204He has been under a lot of stress since the pilot exploded in popularity, it was inevitable that something would make him have a breackdown.
>>152596729>moving the goalpostsconcession accepted
>>152596743>I hate rightoids moreGlad to know you're only talking about controlled-opposition "conservatives," not an actual right wing that hasn't existed in the West for decades, if not centuries.>>152596747>>moving the goalpostsHow could that be if I'm not the one you were replying to?
>>152596753>How could that be if I'm not the one you were replying to?ok, then you're off topic. babble in your own time.
>>152596761>you didn't say the thing I wanted, so shut upConcession accepted.
>>152594770Toby has this shit figured out.He can just put shit he likes into his game and not engage with bullshit.
Literally just fucking stop going on Twitter
>>152596789But all the good porn artists post their. Thats all i use twitter and reddit for now
>>152594426I ligit don't know how any can use that website, we joke about this place being hell but every time I user twitter more for than a minute I want to blow my brains out
>>152596810this place is a ghetto, I come here and the first thing I see is a knuckle-dragging moron.Both places suck, they're just different flavors of suck.
>>152596810Forgot pic
I find it really funny how this show took cues from IHNMAIMS but not the creator himself.Just do as Harlan Ellison did and be hostile to your fans. Coddling them will get you nowhere.https://youtube.com/shorts/5_8v9Mw7XBo?si=EG9NePgMf9U1vibt
>>152596829Gooseworx really just wanted to be another Toby Fox by acting all quirky and elusive on social media and dropping cryptic messages through shitposts.The one thing Gooseworx should have tried doing is be original.
>>152596810>>152596816I am happy here in a way that I am not anywhere else on the internet.Even after everything else, even after the Spur stuff, 4chan feels like a place where I can be free. Where I need assume no name, no identity, and no preconception. Where I can say what I want and no backlash to it will occur, or at least not a permanent one.I would have gone insane over the years without this place. Here I can speak my mind without fear of reprisal. This place is free. I hope Zoomers who come here appreciate that. There used to be a lot more free places online. But 4chan is one of the last ones left.
Here's what started it. Though this probably got posted earlier.
>>152596854>The one thing [Cooper Smith] should have tried doing is be original.Impossible, given his personality type. Ghouls are inherently destructive, not creative.
>>152596857I'd love to have somewhere else I could post, though. But I've been banned from every other website because I can't stop acting like a douchebag.
>>152596857>>152596868I hate it here cuz i cant make any friendships here but then again i cant do that on any other social media site anymore either. Social media isnt even social anymore. I wanna blow my brains out so badly today.
>>152594046>bro>bro>broDoes this generation never get told to fuck off with their stolen 2000s nigger vocabulary? Don't these kids have parents that correct them?
