The Death Spiral thread generated a ton of discussion, and is already at bump limit. Link for those who missed the storytime:>>152618411Let’s continue the discussion. This one seemed controversial, and polarizing.
About as controversial as taking a shit in a dumpster
>>152627120Well, there are bound to be people who are not in favor, yes.
>>152627102This issue was announced for a second printing. Peter and MJ sell, who knew?
>>152627102Well I am of to hit the night clubs now big mistake making this thread now 8pm in the us 2 am in europe.
>>152627136It's best to ignore this thread and let it die take my advice get some some sleep. Or go to a nght club for some joy.
>>152627102How did Venom now know who Ben Reilly was? He knew instantly he wasn't Peter when he took over as Spider-Man
>>152627185MJ and Flash Sell
>>152627102The scene of Carnage taking Eddie's phone to send self deleting texts to a supervillain on a regular basis is fucking batshit.Laughed my ass off.
>>152627102It was a decent first issue, that felt like things were finally gaining some momentum to answer a lot of questions we've been sitting on for over a year now. Seems like Flash/MJ is put to bed, which is nice. Doesn't seem like Paul is Torment, but I now think he'll be a victim.Looking forward to ASM #23. Happy we don't have to wait more than a week for any of this shit. If I had to wait 2-4 weeks for the next installment, I'd be complaining that not enough happened in this issue.
>>152627102Anyone hope Jason Macendale is Death Spiral? He's one of the last Spidey villains still dead, so why not have him come back for shits and giggles?
>>152627358>Pure copePaulFAG...
>>152627422Jacks are cruise control for sucking, so no.
>>152627403>Seems like Flash/MJ ARE GOING to bedGiggidy giggidy
An Ultimate Farwell to Richard and Benom.
>>152627546Yep we even had a thread about it todayhttps://desuarchive.org/co/thread/152621251/
>>152627422I agree with you in wanting him back, especially considering he only got killed because of an editor having a hateboner for him, but Macendale worked best as a "nothing personal" merc, a serial killer role like this is all wrong for him. There's no point bringing an old character back if what we get is effectively just an OC wearing his name.
>>152627237>>152627277Sure! Stay up all night posting here. It’s going to be here tomorrow too!>>152627601Oh wow, that thread was a total failure. What loser made that one? Some kind of idiot retard surely.
>>152627358They pretty much said it’s not happening. I don’t expect Polish people to understand English comics though.
>>152627825anon it's no good soon it will be nighttime in the us and europe is asleep right now. Besides even yoy need sleep sooner or later what are you going to bump it yourself out of spite? have fun then,
>>152627825>Sure! Stay up all night posting here. It’s going to be here tomorrow too!I doubt it anon i truly do soon everyone will hit the sack,
I think I am going to enjoy watching OP dropping dead from exhaustion trying to keep his thread alive it will fail of course.
OP wants to make a complete idiot of himself fine with me enjoy have fun trying to keep your thread alive. You just don't when to quit do you I am going to burn you out buddy.
Ok. Keep going.
>>152627962>bobody stays up late on the internet says Polish retard posting on a Spider-Man thread at 3:30 AM in Warsaw.I hope you keep going until it genuinely damages your health.
>>152628178thed saying goes nobody hates Spider-Man more then the fans the sayung is very much true.
>>152628252If you’re not able to stay awake past dawn, that means you lose and I win.
op diddles kids
>>152628195look who is talking you come from europe youself you made this thread at around 2 am.
>>152628260the fans hate Spider-Man the most what's the matter can't stand to hear the true now.
>>152628278Oh no, I’m from Arizona. It’s only 7 PM just now.
>>152628260No anon this thread will soon be dead I will ruin you.
>>152628311Well, keep at it. I’ll check in periodically.
>>152628301why are you lying it's 8:15 pm Arizona.
>>152628324no anon you will drop from exhaustion,
>>152628329Time zones are weird in AZ, it doesn’t do daylight savings. I’m in Nevada this week. That probably explains it.
No one cares about spiderman anymore bro. He's dead. People are just venting because they hate what marvel has done. Their lucky if people get angry because that shows they care. Right now, it's just the fanfiction version of spiderman everyone likes in geek circles interspersed with the occasional person talking about whatever crap marvel is limping to the barn with.
>>152628387If they kill Paul and put Peter and MJ back together I will buy the book again. Until then no. Simple as.
What Marvel has done ever since OMD has kept Peter in a characterization rut. Sure, on paper new things are happening but Peter himself has not changed from down on his luck 20-something. He doesn't learn anything, his relationships either rubber band back to status quo or defaults to what would be the most emotionally painful, and even the relationships that do change do not change in a way that makes sense in context. Now, before you move the goalpost: yes this is a common problem in comics as a medium, no that does not excuse this issue nor make it good writing. The Paul storyline did nothing but break down all progress the run before it made in repairing Peter and MJ's relationship, that run had to spend a lot of time trying to make that relationship after several runs of relationship drama, you kinda get the idea of cyclical that is right? Same thing on Peter holding down a job: Peter finds job, job goes into background as status quo for half a run (if that), Peter loses job, womp womp quip about Parker Luck, repeat for next run. Pre-OMD, while there have been ruts, there have also been runs where Peter reaches milestones: him graduating high school, graduating college, getting a teaching job, marrying MJ, all of this is stuff most runs didn’t back out of immediately and stuff that Marvel continuously undermines at every turn just to keep Peter in a rut. So tell me, how many runs of Marvel editorial spinning their wheels on one of their flagship heroes do fans have to sit through before this "interesting" pay off you're talking about? Because all I see are a wide range of ideas thrown at wall hoping that either sticks the landing or kicks the hornest nest of angry fans that will hate-buy the product.
>>152628412It is too late for that the only sane action left is to get rid of MJ anf bring back Gwen let she and be happy with each other.
I just can't bring myself to care about the current marvel continuity for some characters. A reboot is necessary.
>>152628447No, I don’t like Gwen anymore. Her fans are bad people.
A full on reboot is the nuclear option and it must be considered. Or just do a damn Silver Age Spider-Man reboot with Peter in the 60s, revisiting his years and maybe hint at a crossroads or older Peter married visiting
>>152628489News flash nobody likes MJ anymore at least when it comes to Gwen she did nothing wrong they did make sins past non-canon after all. While MJ having left peter for paul is canon right now I choose Gwen over MJ.
Problem with Marvel comics as a whole is Brand Synergy. They're trying to make their comics look like the movies, so you know, they can drag in general audiences and get more money. That's fine that you want new readers but don't try and ruin a writers vision or a storyline because "Oh! The next MCU Movie is coming out! Quick, let's make the comic book characters look like their MCU counterparts, so we can get more money!" Like seriously, the comics survived long before the MCU was a thing, and yes, they went through their bankruptcy in the 90s but still comic books still survived. Comic books don't need to the movies to carry them, they should be creating new and interesting storylines for movies and TV shows to adapt years later, not the other way around.
I don’t mind Rebooting Spider-Man completely as long as Petter never ever agin gets back together with M.J at least in the Comic book universe the main line universe and Either have Black cat/Felecia Hardy or my more Preferable noun canon love interest That I wish was Petter Parker’s love interest being Ava/White-tiger,(I would bring Back Gwen Stacy in this Reboot Universe and have her be with Harry Osborn know before any one gets mad at me I’m talking about Norman’s son not the bullshit that Norman did in the comics or have Harry be with M.J as it really sucks that M.J is one of the Worst love Interest in Media,(Things I would keep to influence The New Spider-Man Reboot Comics Universe would Take Inspiration The Sam Ramey Trilogy,Spatular Spider-Man TV show and The Amazing Spider-Man Movies Realism,The Else-worlds feel of The Ultimate Spider-Man comics&Spiderman The New Animated series and Give Petter his own Team like he did In The Ultimate Spider-Man Series as I liked this Team in that show even though some fans hate the show I don’t also I would still keep the Multiverse stuff with Morlen and have it be similar to The Spider into the Spider Verse movies with Petter meets miles from another universe and be his mentor),(theirs your Universe take It or leave it also I would have Norman quit being The Green Goblin and Otto also becoming good permanently this time just not have them put on the Spider-Man persona and I won’t close the door of Spider-Man having new Villains or a new Main villain but I won’t forget the previous villains either,
>>152628671But I will Revamp them like Having Craven had killed Ava’s Dad like he did in The ultimate Spider-Man Sieries or having Electric being Red skull’s secret son or having the Actual Red skull be the one who had Peter’s parents killed and not just some fake copy cat and Have Sandman kill petter’s Uncle Ben and have the version of Martin Lee mister negative from The PS Spider-Man games and have Petter have Harry and Ned be his childhood friends who became villains later on
DAWG THE PROBLEM IS THEY KEEP REBOOTING SPIDER-MAN AND WON'T LET HIM PROGRESS AND CHANGE AS A PERSON! Every time he advances in a way that could shake up the status quo- WOOPS NEVER MIND HE'S A SINGLE BROKE COLLEGE DROP OUT LIVING OFF OF AUNT MAY'S PENSION AGAIN! He doesn't need a reboot he needs someone to send the entire Marvel Bullpen to the fucking Shadow Realm!
>>152628588I don’t know any MJ fans who bragged about being a pedophile. But Gwenschizo did. Gwen fans are bad people.
>>152628768fuck off.
>>152628815Gwen fans always spam threads and scream about how much the love child rape from dusk to dawn. At this point I have no more love for Gwen or the country of Poland. I no longer want to see her now that pedophiles like Gwenschizo control her. Gwen fans also say awful things about black people.
>>152628875I have no love for you MJ fans since you hate Gwen for no reason bear that in mind ALWAYS.
>>152628923MJ fans never bragged about raping children or spammed a thread, but Gwen fans do. Terrible people. Gwen is a bad person with bad people fans.
>>152628947That was a serious post i hate MJ fans since you hate Gwen for no reason.
has it really been 8 years of this retard shitposting about Gwen? For no reason other than his blond hair fetish? Not a single thing to like about her and dozens, if not hundreds of worthless spam threads made in her honor.
>>152629014Pretty much. You don’t see MJ fans doing that. Only Gwen fans embarrass and humiliate themselves like this. It’s 5 AM in Warsaw and he’s still doing this.
>>152629037>he’s literally here past dawn screaming in impotent frustration about how he’s a child rapist who loves GwenI think the other mods should take away his mod privileges for mental health reasons.
>>152629061Notn funny.
>>152627102I think even without woke stuff Marvel would still be terrible because this was garbage.
It’s very funny. I wonder if we can get you to stay awake until you start hallucinating, then it’ll be very funny.
>>152629213Agreed. Them trying to synergize with Marvel Rivals, Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, and a show for literal preschoolers isn’t woke, but it’s still retarded. And All New Venom and Carnage were wet farts.
>>152629250Sorry, that was for the pedophile over in >>152629092
>>152629213>>152629268I just want to see them blink. They’ve dug their heels in about how Paul is here to stay and Peter and MJ will never get back together. I don’t expect a good comic right now. I just want to watch them cave to angry fans.
Is there a comic book character stronger than Knull?Keep in mind I'm talking about God of Light Knull with the Uni-Power, the Void, All-Black the Necrosword and the ability to control the Grendel and the Big Mother.
>>152629365I think this one Polish guy obsessed with child rape and Gwen Stacy could compete with Knull.
>>152629293Either way it's still not funny lay off the insults will you.
>>152629456I hate spam like this,
>>152629365I could see Volthoom being more than a match for Knull, especially at the height of his power.
>>152629494Gwen Stacy fans love spam and child rape. And they’ll stay awake until they die of cardiac arrest.
>>152629515That’s a good matchup. And I think you’re right, I just wanted to talk about something and Knull Blanco’s design and concept is growing on me.
>>152629604I liked your Madara Uchicha bit. :3
>>152629604It is pretty cool. Knull becoming Captain Universe in order to fight Hela was not something I was expecting to happen.
>>152629621>You may have girlboss’d me Hela, but I have the power of BEING A SHAMELESS FUCKING SELL OUT
4chan moderation staff collude with polish pedophiles
>>152627102>>152627358marywhorefags on suicide watch
>>152629645*Charges up for fifteen issues like it's DBZ.*>YAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
>>152629666>Gwenfags only make three posts.
>>152629667Imagine being Knull. Imagine turning into your own spiritual antithesis just because this one Swedish bitch talked down to you.
>>152629697>"Shameful as it may be, I cannot deny the seductive allure of...THE UNI-POWER!"
>>152629666checc'dsex with big titty redheads
>>152629709*Still though, it's going to be a weird ride. Gods of Darkness don't typically embrace the Light, even for nefarious purposes and those that do are forever changed.
>>152629711Flash is blonde though. Unacceptable. To Gwen-esque.
>>152629744Like I said, it’s the most shameless way of selling out. Literally betraying everything about yourself for power and spite.That’s actually a cool concept. It’s a fun place for any villain to be. He’s sunk as low as he possibly could.
>>152629765It's probably the most interesting thing Marvel has done in a while. Everything else by comparison feels plain.
>>152629744Knull Blanco redemption arc incoming. He’s absorbing the alt-universe Captain Universe Eddie to get his power, maybe Eddie becomes his conscious.
>>152629816>The Comeback King 2: Electric Boogaloo.It'll be glorious.
>>152629888Holy fuck I don't wanna see this shit again. Somehow Stegman ruins the golden concept of Cap Uni Venom and it turns out dogshit in an even shittier event.>>152627102Yeah I'm gonna make a thread for Spider-Man over the weekend and it's gonna be of good quality. What is good schizo repellant? Any ideas?
>>152629922Yeah...it wasn't great. Hopefully we'll get a better design.
>>152629973*Or they can just keep Knull Blanco.
>>152629993I guess Knull getting unipower could be interesting. But he has barely done anything as actual knull so him turning face is about as dumb as thinking that heel Knull was any good beyond his initial role in the first 6 issues of Cates's run.
>>152630060Well, it seems for now, that he'll be using those powers for evil but we'll have to wait until QiB is over to know more. For all we know, Peter could end up siphoning the Uni-Power from Knull.
>>152630107So the uni-power is having some long-reaching all according to keikaku goals? I dunno how to feel about that. Too bad Knull isn't fun to read. He's just the writers desperately wanting the reader to think he is menacing when all stakes in comics have been gone for so long now.Also QiB and uni-Knull look ass as well.
>>152630164As with Ultimate I am once again only in it for the Peter and MJ shit.
>>152627601>That thread>Barely makes it to 39 posts before falling apart, a true failure>This thread>93 posts and counting even outside peak hours, still going strong.
>>152630235Eh. They lost me after Spencer concerning MJ/Peter stuff. Ult was just an ok run that was good for dismantling their muh sales arguments and I thought it would actually try harder at having more go on per issue. Like Mayday being sidelined so hard instead of having her tag along Ben was lame. She didn't even need to have superpowers. Just like being a moral support or handy set of extra eyes is enough for me, something to bounce off of rather than Black Cat giving us tired "male is flustered while female is hyper competent and mature" dialogue. Lame. 616 is even worse. I mean I'm glad She-Venom will stop the fucking bullshit they pulled with this male body nonsense but man...beyond that the whole event of Death Spiral and QiB will be so disjointed and decompressed just like every other one. And the gold ANV still sucks even if it is She-Venom. Black and white all the way. And they can't help but have the hair flowing when that is antithetical to true spider-man costumes. Only Julia was able to pull it off, and I know that will ruffle Jess supporters but who cares, she's an Avenger.
Where is Cletus?
>>152630339Cletus dumped Carnage because he didn’t care about being a god, then Carnage cloned him, bonded to him, they ate original Cletus and absorbed his memories, only for Cletus to dump Carnage AGAIN, for the exact same reason.
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>>152630719it really is incredible that this was preferable to Peter having the son. And now Venom has a son so the timeline is irrevocably fucked up the shitter anyway.
