This is Nott The Goblin.
>>152658410>Voiced by gay jewish manCompletely ruins it.
Watch it with moonspeak dub
>>152658540I think it makes Nott's voice sound like a really exhausted mom. Women's voices can deepen and get more hoarse with age.
Critical Role and its consequences have been a disaster for tabletop gaming
>>152658602Explain.
I like Vox Machina quite a bit, specially the first season. That first campaign felt dark and oppressive and I'm all about this sorta of stuff. The stuff about the dragons was okay, but too high of stakes and never felt that dramatic.Something also worth noting is that i don't feel like they communicate the characters getting stronger that well, dragons are supposed to be this major threat but I don't see that much growth visually from when the series started to how it ended.Mighty Nein so far is only okay, I like a few things, I also like the way they are starting as complete strangers letting we known how the bonds are formed instead of being thrown in to it like with Vox Machina, I don't like the direction they lead more than a few characters from what I've been spoiled, but that could be changed.I like just fine, but they have tons of room for screwing up and need to prove themselves more for me to have faith in this actually being good. My problem with it so far is mostly related to Mighty nein campaign pandering really hard to the tumblr crowd, that kinda makes sense being a product of it's own time, peak 2016 is where this of shit was as it's strongest, and you can really tell on more than a few choices, specially related to character design. In the show so far you don't see that a lot, but it does sometimes pops out it's ugly head that I just find distracting really. At very least is not boring.
>>152658613Freakshit. Lots and lots of Freakshit characters and failed actors hamming it up, convinced they're the main character.
>>152658620I think my issue with Vox is that they're already a tight group, while Mighty is becoming a group. Also I find Vox's characters less interesting than Mighty's.
>>152658620I don't like any Critical Role shit.It's hard to describe, I think the most succinct way of putting it is, "Empty millennial fantasy."You know, everything is quirky, they swear too much, everything is irreverent, there's gay, annoying Marvel-movie quips happening constantly even when the situation is supposed to be serious, there's no real overarching themes, I could go on.I think it's totally fucking insufferable from beginning to end and I don't understand what you see in this dogshit.
>>152658787I can't think in a single instance of what you describe actually happens. The fact you are using millennial as it means anything instead of the internet buzzword that actually is just makes me thing you are describing the show by how you feel, not what actually it is.
>>152658848Really, faggot?You REALLY can't find ANY examples of what I'm talking about?https://youtube.com/shorts/_Xoz0I5d7Dg?si=JE2ZsfZkL86z9aOaPiss off, idiot.
>in the roleplay sessions is it constantly joked that Nott has huge tits>make her flat in the showKill everyone involved with this project.
>>152658918That's Ai generated.
>>152658540Posters these days are weak beyond belief.>>152658602Yeah, it's been absolutely horrifying, getting new people into my hobby. Now if only I could experience that horror in some of my other hobbies...
>>152659388>Yeah, it's been absolutely horrifying, getting new people into my hobby.You are just another nogame secondary. Critical Freakshow>Can't even get their own rules right>Every 2nd character is some nonbinary homo rainbowhair abomination>Constant fudging of dicerolls>Use a script for pre-determined outcomes because the fanbase cannot handle a character dying>Got a bunch of their nonsense forced in 2024 edition - which helped kill it>Brought in fewer new players than Stranger Things didEnjoy your Tiefling in a Combat Wheelchair.
>>152659388Remember how was cool everyone was into superheros and comcis before the crash?It is the same with tabletop
>>152659597>>152659633It's now just about 5:00, my group is meeting at 6:00. The DM and I have been playing since 3.5, although there's another player that's been doing it about 5 or so years and he has one of those photographic memories for everything he's read that make him invaluable. The other 4 people in our group have only been playing since we roped them in about two years ago. We would have had a much harder time roping people in without Critical Role/Stranger Things making it more socially acceptable and showing people examples they could understand. I haven't had to deal with a "tiefling in a combat wheelchair." I have had to deal with a player that kept trying to push a plasmoid's abilities past what the rulebook allows, but frankly that was me and the DM's fault for letting her play a "slime person" instead of a more standard race for her first time, and I've been dealing with people that want to push the limits for ages. At least this one just looks sad and goes "oh" when the DM shoots her down, instead of arguing for ten minutes. And hell, the women at the table actually want to be there, unlike the "DM's girlfriend who 100% didn't want to be at the table" experiences I had a decade ago. You can bitch and moan about how my hobby has been ruined all you like, I'm experiencing nothing but benefits, heading to a friend's house to hang with people I like, playing D&D, petting a cat that has finally warmed up to me, and eating freshly-made chili and cornbread, courtesy of someone that probably would never have tried gaming out if not for CR and the other "mainstreaming" stuff.
>>152658787I'm only halfway through episode 2 of their 4th campaign but Mulligan seems to be running a way more serious campaign.>>152658848In one of the Vox Machina episodes Scanlan makes a pedobear reference. I like Vox and Nein a lot but sometimes their jokes do try too hard.
>>152658613it made tabletop RPGs mainstream with theater/band kids
>>152659388...what happened to her nip slip?
>>152658410I want Jester to peg me.
>>152658410>Nott The Goblin*licks muzzle* "Sure."
>>152658410
>>152658540He was also one of the voice actors who lied about Vic Mignogna when he was cancelled for crimes he never committed.
>>152658540Sam isn't gay. He's so straight he got throat cancer from eating pussy.
>>152658679Mighty Nein is a bit too Surf Dracula.
>>152658918That's the worst, corniest moment. Unfortunately it's also the first moment. But it's all uphill from there.
SEX!WITH!JESTER!
>>152660327I think you're a visitor from a better timeline.
>>152658595I thought the same
>>152659017Just wait. She's wearing a binder, bet on it.
>>152658639>anon thinks thatguyism was invented in 2015
>>152660173>I haven’t personally experienced any downsides, so surely those downsides must not exist!I’m glad you haven’t had to deal with the insufferable type of posers Critical Roll has created, but acting like you’re wiser just because you haven’t personally experienced any of it is rather naive of you. I don’t begrudge Critical Roll for that shit, that’s just the cost of doing business and attracting secondaries to the hobby, but it is still not the most pleasant experience dealing with the kind of people who join your games to basically demand you put on a show for them instead of actually playing, one exactly like Critical Roll despite you never watching any of this shit yourself.
>>152658639>failed actorsif thats what failure looks like...>still gets new live and voice roles while playing silly tabletop game for fun>half are directors still working on projects>some have kids>start a kickstarter to get an original animated series off the ground, blows it out of the water in less than 6 hours>puts a bunch of animators to work on 2 new series. >also dub it and sub it into a dozen other languages, creating more work>>152659388>Yeah, it's been absolutely horrifying, getting new people into my hobby.right? But some >>152659597 are so fucking insular they want to decide more than just who they game with.>>152663513>acting like you’re wiser just because you haven’t personally experienced any of it is rather naive of you. I don’t begrudge Critical Roll for that shit,no, its fair to say there's more of that thanks to them. But they tend to stay together anyways and tend to only want to game around complete lack of conflict types, so they'll burn out quickly in the rare cases they do crop up.>put on a show for them instead of actually playing, one exactly like Critical Roll despite you never watching any of this shit yourself.for sure... but honestly, crit-role's Mercer's approach isnt novel. if you hadn't run into that type of table before, thats not because it didn't exist. we'd been doing things that way since the 90s, depending on the tastes of the players.
>>152663513Back from my game and it was fun.It's not just that I haven't experienced "the insufferable type of posers." At my workplace, on my shift, there are several other people that have their own games on - last time I checked there were at least four distinct campaigns, with a couple players overlapping different groups, and I know other shifts have games going on too. I've repeatedly walked into a room to find one coworker talking to another about a game, or in one case found a girl sketching her party's characters. We work in biotech, so yeah, it's both a large shift and a seriously nerdy one, but still. If you'd told college-aged-me I'd experience that sort of thing one day I'd have called bullshit. I sat in as a "guest player" for one DM (I couldn't be a regular, just not enough free time) and he had a couple people doing it for the first time (I showed up for sessions 3, 4, and 5 before I had to bow out). They were green as fuck but willing to learn and fun enough to hang out with. I'm VERY sure there are shitty players that came to the table thanks to CR. I'm VERY sure they're shitty in ways different from the shitheads that've always been in the fandom. What I don't buy for one fraction of a second is that the bad outweighs the good. If my entire group died in a freak Day The Music Died plane crash, I could just walk up to other people I know and go "hey, can I start playing with you?"The worst part of this hobby has always been finding other people to do it with ("getting schedules to sync" is a sub-type of "not being able to find people"). We've seen a frankly incredible boom in people willing to give it a shot. AND actually showing up with positive expectations. If you can't make that a net benefit because some of them are the wrong kind of people, well, that seems like a You problem.
>>152664399>If you can't make that a net benefit because some of them are the wrong kind of people, well, that seems like a You problem.Dude, stop trying to act like your experiences are universal. It’s embarrassingly smug and judgmental. I never had problems finding people to game with before Critical Roll existed, I just gained a bigger influx of mouth breathers that I have to filter through to find the good ones that wanted to learn rather than use me as a substitute Matt Mercer.
>>152658787this is basically how I feel about Dispatch
>>152658613normies and fagshit
>>152660717Yeah, Nott's
>>152660729As someone who only watches the show and doesn't know anything about critical role, I don't really feel that way.
Not the goblin? Then what is it?
>>152665999>Dude, stop trying to act like your experiences are universal. It’s embarrassingly smug and judgmental.Dude, stop trying to act like your experiences are universal. It’s embarrassingly smug and judgmental.
>>152658540Just imagine the VA for Wenduag voicing her instead.
>>152658787I don't care about this show. I'm just here for the moderately cute girl.
>>152659388Yes, it has. Mostly because the new people are the sort of politically brainrotted scumshit who look at the word "race" in the handbook, and immediately start squealing about the Naughty Word.
>>152658787so you hate fun?
>>152666408>n-n-no uI accept your concession
>>152658410>Theater kids are already ITT writing soliloquies about how they’re totally not a cancerYeah I think critical role is AIDS.
>>152659388Dr. Ms. The Monarch has a good voice, contrasts well with her design, which is very feminine. Like Linda Belcher, the voice is convincingly a woman's despite being voiced by a man. They're men doing impressions of women, while Nott is voiced by a man doing an impression of a boy, not a woman.I went into Mighty Nein completely blind, and 100% thought Nott was supposed to be male until they stated otherwise. Even then, I kept thinking there was going to be a joke reveal that Nott is actually male.Smellerbee from Avatar pulls this off far better, being a girl, voiced by a woman, mistaken for a boy, because hiring adult voice actresses to voice boys is easier and sounds close enough.
>>152666694>I accept your concessionNTA, but I wanted to point out that you say that so often that I've begun to notice that you're a ritual-posting autist freak.>>152666408You're talking to a guy who actually has a mental illness, FYI. You're not able to reason with this freak. He obsessively posts on /tg/ fucking constantly, too; no wonder he slimed his way into a Critical Role thread on /co/. He's an aging boomer, far-left extremist, and he has low-functioning autism. He's incapable of learning or tolerating and disagreement, so... You're talking to a lolcow, basically. Just accept that you stepped in shit, wipe it off, and move on with your life. You can tell who it is because he ritual-posts "I accept your concession" because that's what he posts every time he starts a retarded argument, and then loses that same retarded argument.You can run a search for that turn of phrase on the archive where it will be revealed to you that you've been talking to an obsessive fucking loser.
>>152666570Shut up, slopper
>>152666966Anon, do you unironically assume all of 4chan is the exact same guy arguing with you?
>>152666326This show is Critical Roll but excised of all the actual dice rolling and out of character discussions that take up 75% of an actual game. You’re getting the cliff notes version of things.
>>152667094When it's the same typing pattern and on the same board in the same type of thread yeah
>>152667289I think you need to get some sunlight, anon.
>>152667443I'm outside on my phoneI'm fineWhat I'm not fine with is the same faggot coming into the thread again and again and some other faggot trying to gaslight me into thinking they don't existFuck off nigger
>>152667512You need help, anon. I’m not even making fun of you here. You really need to stop looking for autists under every rock just because one loser disagreed with you about Critical Roll.
>>152660173>Did not address any of my points.I didn't expect you to, but you didn't even try.
>>152667646It's the same one and you're just enabling it Fuck off nigger, I've having to deal with people like you since vox machina came out
>>152667714Why are you acting so angry someone doesn’t care for this show? Are your feelings hurt? Do you cry over people having different opinions on a cartoon board?
>>152667743I'm screaming over having to deal with faggots like you in threads who can't stop being a brain dead nigger and learning to fuck off
>>152667714>How dare you not like [product] I've based my entire personality on!
>>152664399I hadn't done D&D since high school after my old group had disbanded, and I stumbled on CR during lockdowns like a lot of people. While it was obviously different from the typical tabletop experience and trying to be more theatrical to appeal to its audience, it did get me to pull my old 3.5 books out of the attic and reread them, and eventually I found a group of coworkers who had also been watching the show. I persuaded them to give the actual game a try and put together a short two-session game to let them try making characters and give them a chance to adjust their expectations from what they got watching the stream. By the second session they were all having fun and we transitioned all their characters to a longer campaign that went on for several months before the group sacrificed themselves to defeat a big bad. We're now in year three of their more expansive second campaign and the whole group is deeply invested in their characters and setting. While there's a lot of things I don't like about CR and the effect it can have on new peoples' expectations for the game, the simple fact is that if it hadn't come along, I (and probably a lot of other people) wouldn't have gotten back into it at all, let alone found new people to play with.
>>152667772So you’re screaming at the voices in your head? Did you remember to take your meds today?
>>152667782It's not even that, it's the double standard and the clear disingenuousness of it allFuck off you brain dead nigger>>152667793I'm screaming at you nigger
>>152667793Anon don't poke the bear he'll be here all day
>>152667789I don’t really buy that, but only because Critical Roll hasn’t actually brought anyone new to my table. Most of the people who do try to join up after seeing Critical Roll dip after the first couple of sessions once they realize they need to put in much more time and effort than just watching it like their favorite show. The rest just left once they realized that they enjoyed the actors and the banter more than D&D itself. Which is fine, everyone should feel free to give a hobby a try and bow out if it’s not for them, but it’s not all been a net gain for everyone.
>>152667813You shouldn’t call yourself that, your momma didn’t raise you to be so full of self-loathing. >>152667826He was already going to be, he just wanted an excuse.
>>152667833>they need to put in much more time and effortlolwut? what're you doing? assigning your players homework?
>>152667850He'll keep doing it if you keep replying to himJust end it before the thread hits bump limit doing this
>>152667850Fuck off nigger
>>152667865Fair enough.
>>152667853No, just asking them basic shit like what they want to do in town or what they want to do in combat. It’s not even shit like attack bonuses or forgotten class features that trip them up, that’s something I was expecting. They just stare at me, blankly. Like bovine. It’s legitimately weird, like they expect me to tell them how to roleplay FOR them.
>>152667910New players struggle with improv, anon. Don't hold it too harshly against them.
