This place is deader than a ghost town
and yet I still want the board to split
>>1526696054chan is dying in general. The internet is dying in general.
>>152669605That's what happens on a website where everyone is a hateful asshole who doesn't like anything. Maybe try actually having a genuine discussion about something you enjoy, and the board won't be so fucking dead. But oh wait, you literally can't because enjoying media is cringe and woke. Fuck you and shut the fuck up. Boring asshole.
>>152669635>um no acksually you don't like things because its a cybersocial faux pasFuck off retard
>>152669635>ut oh wait, you literally can't because enjoying media is cringe and woke. Fuck you and shut the fuck up. Boring asshole.Congratulations on being part of the problem, you direction-brained dickwad.
There's nothing to talk about when it comes to comics or cartoons outside of random indie stuff, what did you expect?Congrats, this is what the hobby board for a dying industry looks like.
>>1526696334chan is dying because it doesn't foster community and gatekeep undesirables. The site is run by people who are proven from the hack to relish the idea of tormenting random anons and shitting up the site. The same people who thought /qa/ and wojak spam was funny until they went after a faggot board, then deleted it and got hacked by those same schizoids.
>>152669651You DON'T like anything. All you ever do is bitch. >>152669659I try to talk about stuff I like all the time. Threads are either ignored or shitposted to death by some obsessed freak. Every single time, about every single piece of media.
4chan is decaying in general.It's honestly better to look for niche forums at this point for discussion online. Even though most of those sites mods are power hungry. The internet just sucks too much now.
>>152669605thats because you dont gain money nor fame from posting here, (namefags exist for that reason) you post out of passion and troll 4 fun, normies dont do that so they dont care about 4chan anymore,(You) should thank the autists for keeping your favorite threads alive, anon.
>>152669605>Industry is dead for both comics and cartoons>The only things worth discussing will be dead soonIt yabba dabba do be that way sometimes
>>152669635i like you, anon
>>152669605The alt /co/'s are little better
>>152669605>Only site that makes you wait a minute to post again>Only site that makes you solve 2-5 puzzles to make a single post>Only website that kills off discussions unless you replied in an arbitrary time >Only site that IP range bans you for no reason given at times unless you give your bank information and removes the point of posting here instead of other websites>Only website on the planet that does its hardest to try to prevent you from posting anything ”Gee why is our website dying?”
>>152669902Look at all these things they have to do so we just don't have to fill out the namefield.
>>152669605it's impressive that 4chan is still kicking for two decades straight despite the terrible mismanagement over last 10 years.
>>152669605X replaced 4chan as the evil Nazi site, 4chan is just more edgy Tumblr now.
>>152669947>it's impressive that 4chan is still kicking for two decades straight despite the terrible mismanagement over last 10 years.Institutional Inertia is a bitch.
There are so many compounding factors as to why this board it's dead, it's very depressing to think about. Now all that's left is garbage discussions with sad 30 year olds, and very few 30 year olds these days are having kids so this site won't have fresh blood the next 5 or 10 years. Who knows what happens after that
>>152669605Yeah, threads are slower than ever before unless it's a porn dumping ground
>>152669605Just because they told you you're here forever doesn't make it true. The Wild West has been tamed and it's time to find a new frontier to explore. No one knows where we're going or what it would even look like but at least we know we're going there together because we're all feeling it.
>>152669605this site is 'coming like a ghost townall the boards are winding downthis site is 'coming like a ghost townnoobs don't post no moretoo much captchas make posting a chore>YYAAAAAAAYYYYYAAAAYYYYAAYYAYYYAYYAAAAA
>>152669676>>152669822Reminder that even fucking twitter has more active discussion on comics than /co/
>>152670261I don't want to use twitter it's full of dickheads.So's /co/ but at least I can call them faggots without some gender special cunt trying to ruin my life IRL over it.
>>152669635there should be more good things to talk about, then
But I don't want /co/ to go away. I like 4chan and /co/. I remember back in the character tournaments (Ms./co/, Mr./co/, etc) there was much less voting than in the previous years. I think it was the captcha. Depending on your provider it almost entirely blocked mobile posting, and let's be real not everyone wants to sit at the desktop to post. I think that was a really bad decision.
>>152670302*the captcha prior to the current one
>>152669605/co/ is a cartoon board now, the comics aspect is fucking fossilized with always the same old shit because the new shit is posted once and forgotten
>>152670302>Depending on your provider it almost entirely blocked mobile postingGood. Mobile posting sucks. If you go onto basically any altchan the quality of discussion almost immediately becomes a thousand times better because most people on those websites are posting on their computers, not their cell phones.
The ban on posts from (most) cell carriers really was a double edged sword because it stemmed a lot of the low-effort shitposting, but the surviving shitposters are much more high-effort schizos who are better at driving people away.
>>152669605The future of cartoons is so over. There are barely any fresh good shows worth talking about.
>>152669605Toonami and death battle are the most active threads here and they are barely /co/
>>152669635When the nogs, fags. and trannys are purged from the media landscape then we can start loving things again.
>>152670322Is a reduction in shitposting really worth losing so much activity though? Is 4chan really fun anymore when you take the chaos out of it?
>>152670359No one likes you and everyone wants you to die
>>152670369Cope, faggot, you lost
>>152670359Nigga you're one of the hateful assholes he was talking about
>>152669635its 4chan what do you expect?
>>152670400Don't flatter him.
>>152670319cartoons are dying too >>152670326>>152669902They enshittified 4chan I think the site going down was the final nail
>>152670384Lost what? The seething faggot brainwashed by pedophiles on a cartoon board here is you
Maybe the solution for this dying website really is to bite the bullet and make a login
>>152669605the IQ-test captcha is a good filter tho, everyone here had to either pay (lol) or pass it
>>152670359Like it or not you just listed the only people who give enough of a shit to make more than five cumulative hours of interesting media in the first place.
>>152669902This. They implemented some spyware IP-tracking shit that won't let you post. I had to disable uBlock and uMatrix to even make this post. It's just garbage. Too much effort to post.
>>152670471No, that's you
>>152670302>I don't want /co/ to go awayon one hand, i agree with you to a certain extent. i like the cozy atmosphere here. you can banter with another anons about cartoons. but on other hand, it should've died long ago so altchans can filled that niche>>152670261grim>>152670286can't blame you, twitter is filled with too many retards
>>152670482Dont be pretentious its not an IQ test its just annoying and a waste of time when they already perfectly fine captchas before
The only active boards left are /v/, /a/ and /sp/ /pol/ is like 70% bots now
>>152670365>Is a reduction in shitposting really worth losing so much activity thoughYes. Quality > Quantity any day of the week. You should be able to see this firsthand with the torrent of AI slop washing over the internet. >Is 4chan really fun anymore when you take the chaos out of it?You're falling into the same false dichotomy fallacy that people have been doing for years. Shitposting =/= board culture. Board culture requires high quality posters to survive. Shitposting erodes board culture and undermines post quality. 4chan does not need to be an ocean of piss to be able to have genuine, fun discussion away from censorship, cliques, and SocJus retards.
>>152670302It was a mixture of the captcha changes and the needing a google account to vote these last two years. Besides that yes I do agree. I like this place, as shit as it can be sometimes. You just need to find a good thread every now and then.
>>152670554I guess. I can't really argue with you there, part of me just feels like there were good posters lost too, surely most phoneposters couldn't have been that way, right?>>152670559Agreed. I don't think it's all lost yet.
>>152669708>The internet just sucks too much now.Yeah the net is so sterile now. It's hard to find sites that foster good discussions. Everything is botted and astroturfed to hell, sites like Reddit have restrictive rules and powertripping jannies with an agenda, social media isn't meant to foster discussions and the users are mostly braindead anyway, basically indistinguishable from the many bots that infest those sites. 4chan is unironically one of the best places to engage in a free exchange of ideas with both likeminded and differing viewpoints, which is pretty sad.
>>152670302What's wrong with captcha?
I used to be a lot more active on /co/ around two years ago, only just recently started poking my head around again and thought I was going crazy because everything felt so inactive. Went to a thread and the first reply was loli art that the jannies never removed, even hours after the thread was posted. Saw a lot more low quality OPs than I remember there being. Felt disheartening since I despise social media and don't want to go there to discuss cartoons, especially since every site is filled with kids who are very loud and annoying.Even then I've still come across a few threads that were a lot of fun, for things I wouldn't have expected. Whatever Happened to Robot Jones of all shows has had a handful of threads that have hit bump limit, with a healthy mix of shitposting, discussion, and even OC from drawfags. /co/ may be dying, but it's not dead yet, and I will always feel at home no matter how bad things get.
>>152669605It's mostly bots now even on /co/. Some bought a pass or scammed one via a stolen credit card or discordjanny's giving them out to stifle threads.
>>152670302>Depending on your provider it almost entirely blocked mobile posting, and let's be real not everyone wants to sit at the desktop to post.Not my problem, death to mobileposters.
>>152670319Absolute?All-ages stuff tends to get solid threads as well though not guaranteed
>>152669635Hmmm, I dunno about that, I still enjoy plenty of stuff; lots of current video games, anime, manga, novels, the only current stuff I generally don't enjoy are music (current music is literally 99.99% shit, it's so bad that AIslop is topping the streaming charts) and cartoons (except some stuff like Primal, Smiling Friends, and CSE, but those are basically ending or dead).The issue is that I just don't have much reason to post here nowadays because there aren't many cartoons or comics I'm interested in nowadays, I'm only here now because of the recent Smiling Friends announcement.Comics and cartoons just aren't really *for* me anymore, so I see no reason to engage with them.
It's not just /co/, it's every board. I browsed /tv/ the other weekend and it shocked me to see how slow it was. Almost as slow as /co/. Everything with the exception of a couple of boards (like /v/) feels like it's on Euro timezone hours now, except for the Euro hours, which are straight-up dead. One sobering effect of this which has become apparent over the last few years (I'm sure people here will agree) is how you'll find yourself in a discussion about something and realize that the anons you're talking to seem to be the same ones you had been talking to days or weeks or months before. It's usually not bad enough that it's worth interrupting the thread to make a comment about it, because if you're wrong you look like a schizo, but if you're right... why spoil the illusion of a fresh conversation? Sometimes it can even be oddly comforting. Nice to see your weird internet pen-pals are still alive and kicking, you know. Still it gives me pause when I encounter it, and it makes me wonder how often others have come to that same realization while talking to me. This entire site feels more and more like a virtual retirement home for jaded millennials who don't fit in anywhere else or who simply hate social media and prefer anonymity. That's not such a bad thing, but it sure does feel more lonely than it used to and there's no reason to assume that it won't get lonelier from here.
It's odd to see graphs like this and think that there's 1/4 as much activity on here each day as there used to be, because maybe it's just rose-tinted goggles but it generally feels like there's even less than that.
>>152670856/tv/ and /co/ are generally dead, for much the same reason.Current TV and current cartoons are both kind of shitty, and the amount being made is downright anemic compared to even just a decade ago, so you end up with the most active discussions on these boards being culture war shit surrounding the industries and the occasional perma-generals for the few things people still care about (ASoIaF and related properties on /tv/, TADC/Hazbin and Death Battle on /co/).But you are right about there being a lot of discussion with the same anons, and this is largely because the "old internet" no longer gets young blood, all the young people are content with AI and whatever the algorithm on TikTok feeds them, this just ends up more pronounced with /co/ since cartoons in general attract a lot of autistic teenagers, and that cohort used to make up a significant proportion of /co/ posters.
>>152669605To be honest I go to boards where my interests align at the time. If I'm obsessing over an anime or manga, I hang around on /a/ more. If it's a cartoon or comic series, I'm here on /co/. If it's a video game then /v/ (or other more specialized boards), /m/ if it's a mecha series, and so on.Aside from Hazbin, there really hasn't been much /co/ material that interests me for a while.
>>152670656Anything not sterile is sunk in a culture of being maximally hostile to anyone who tries to do or talk about anything because that's seen as the only way to prevent being sterilized. There's only extruded industrial paste or crab bucket/tall poppy culture.
>>152669605> you must solve 4 ai training captchas to find out if you are already banned before you can respond to the scraps of conversation you were able to figure out isnt a manufactured botted discussionYeah, it sure is a mystery.
>>152670925Enjoy your AIDS
>>152670925Hazbin is the main reason I'm on /co/.
>>152670690it filters out anyone below a kindergarten education, ie a lot of anons
Do storytimes help?
>>152669605No one wants to be associated with this website as American heads to a surveillance state. At some point the younger generation got brainwashed into hating pedos so much that it overrides logic and will let the government arrest (enslave) whoever they want. Soon we'll all get vanned just for having posted here.
>>152669605It looks that way, until somthing actually happens
>all the jobs have been cloosed doownhttps://youtu.be/dKiGUP98YkE?si=WFjUcfhj8gaS-q0a
>>152670925Same
It's nice to have the occasional thread to air out the many grievances that come with this site's decline. I sometimes wish there was a place to discuss these things in depth without a mod Sword of Damocles hanging overhead to smite the thread right in the middle of the discussion, even if there is a reason that spaces for meta discussion are taken out back after what happened with /qa/. Things don't need to be so intentionally obfuscated though. Taking away the IP counter is one example- we all know the site's metrics are lower, why try to hide it? We can all tell! It's like a balding guy getting Turkish hair plugs.
>>152670856>One sobering effect of this which has become apparent over the last few years (I'm sure people here will agree) is how you'll find yourself in a discussion about something and realize that the anons you're talking to seem to be the same ones you had been talking to days or weeks or months before.On /co/ it's especially bad because a lot of the same anons post the exact same ritual threads week after week. Those Tushy Tuesday threads for instance are maybe 5 guys at best dumping the same images time after time. I've also noticed an explosion of weird ERP posting that I hope is just bots because it doesn't have a human speech cadence.
>>152670751maybe it's time to start a blog? maybe a renaissance of blog is necessary? I made a blog about my hobby, and while it has only 100 views daily, it slowly builds a community with 3 regular commenters.
>>152670856I have a confession to make, I do pretend to be different anons for fun, sometimes posting contradiction opinions, albeit I avoid doing it in the same thread.
>11th fastest board on the site>"ghost town"genuine retard
>>152670967>>152670977
>>152671049Anon, 11k posts per day is pretty slow for anons who are used to /co/'s peak in the early-mid 10s.During the peak of Gravity Falls' popularity this board used to hit 4x that number.
>>152671049genuinely depressing that /pol/ is the main board of the site. Guess that's what happens when you run them off every single platform and then force all their hangouts to get dropped by cloudflare though.
>>152671029A similar thing is happening with Tvtropes. User engagement is down, the mods and admins know it's down and are trying to fix it but they get violently angry when you address the elephant in the room. (captcha, draconian rules, annoying userbase)
>>1526710291 thread per board doesn’t seem like a terrible idea.
>>152669635I hope your next animation gig falls through >>152670488lol no you faggot, conservatives were just gatekept from jobs. I’m making my own work for free.>>152670400Cry ya pussy.
>>152671073>1 thread per board doesn’t seem like a terrible idea.It's not at first, but then it soon becomes a general, and then you get all the usual suspects that can be expected to spoil both meta threads and general threads. It's probably for the best to have it be an informal thing that crops up out of the blue.
>>152671049>the bot and foreign agent infested Epstein funded board is the fastestReally makes you think...
>>152671071Captchas are never going to go away because they're the only bulwark against rampant bot spam from mega-autists.Even now, the only reason 4chan's captcha is the way it is is because it was specifically implemented to stop the autistic furry from /v/ who set up an entire proxy site and was using it to spam CP on residential IPs all over the site for at least the last 2-3 years.You are never going back to a captcha-less internet unless you want to create an account tied to your real identity, that's just the simple fact of life, and it's largely because some autists just can't control their autism.
>>152669902This. There are plenty of reasons why this site has a god-awful community, but the majority of it comes down to the site being openly hostile to even posting at all. All this effort just to post a reaction image shitpost? Yeah, I don't think so. It's fair to say that the site's decaying setup is the reason that 4chan has so actively lost users.
>>152671091But then it always inevitably gets deleted. Sometimes before much discussion can even happen
>>152669605this board is 60% aging angry autists getting mad at le woke, 30% gooning, and 10% actual quality threads. i will be here for the 10%, but the people posting some twitter screencap as the OP need to be shot on sight
>>152671047Here's a confession. This site's so dead that sometimes I post intentionally bullshit obvious retard-tier information and then even respond to myself calling myself a retard just to get other anons to jump in and start some kind of conversation about an actually interesting topic.
>>152671029Reminder that /qa/ was intentionally gutted to encourage shitposting so that it drowned out all meta discussion and user participation in the site activities.Of course that shitposting was what brought in the soijakkers. And instead of stamping them out we got them watering until they made Sharty, which led to the hack since Rapeape & co would not update exploits which then dropped posts here by 25%.A huge reason for 4chan decline is moderators did not want to hear criticism or put in effort, so now the remaining jannies have to put in more effort lol
>>152671105Plus, the grim reality is that AI and bot tech are getting so advanced that even captcha can't stop them. Hell you might be a fucking robot and I'd have no way of knowing.
>>152671124Phew, I thought I was getting paranoid. Sometimes it's obvious anon, so you have to work on your baiting skills
>>152671134At the end of the day, if the discussions is bringing some joy and makes you think, then that's the best you can hope for. But then again, I don't remember the last time I was happy after posting on /co/. Maybe like, 10 years ago
>>152669682I'm still convinced that mods intentionally let /qa/ turn to total shit so they could have an excuse to close down the one board where anons could criticize them within the rules, and didn't think about the consequences of supporting the growth of a schizo culture.
>>152671118>this board is 60% aging angry autists getting mad at le wokeAvatar threads are the most revealing I'd say. A bunch of fanboys that scorn everything new and only want to talk positively about one show that ended in 2008 for ever and ever.
>>152671118I hate to defend twitter screenshot threads because I think that platform is a cesspit. But, that’s exactly why I never go there. Yet I also think that an industry professional making a public statement of some sort is often a board related topic worth discussing. I wish Twitter didn’t have to be the place they’d do that, but I dunno where else they would.
>>152671148That’s a good thing, slopper
>>152671164yeah there's a difference between posting an industry announcement or something from a writer or showrunner vs posting some literally who's dogshit opinion in the hopes of riling people up.
>>152669605You know how to fix it. Just erase that pesky GR and let the herd take their rightful place back.
>>152671164i get posting industry announcements, but half the time it's some dipshit take by some literalwho teenage girl they want to cyberbully
it's unironically because you guys weren't brave enough to call zionists out
>>152671049was this supposed to be a gotcha?
>>152669635True
>>152671199>they all come here>everyone else leaves>now you have two less active boards for one long-dead showOh, good.
Watch out, the jannies are watching this thread with banhammer in hand
>>152671242If this thread's been allowed to survive this long, that should be the assumption.
>visit /co/>say you don’t like a specific Spielberg cartoon>Get blasted by a wall of text about how the show is not at all mid but actually the cultural juggernaut of the 90’s because it was animated by this one specific animation studio and anyone who says otherwise needs to get a life
>>152671268Oh god, yea, /co/ has a much higher (proportionally) amount of annoying autistic spammer schizos.Famicom is just one of many and every single time he shows up in a thread you basically have to vacate because he will turn it into random spam of made-up bullshit based entirely on nothing but his schizoid delusions.
>>152671265not when this is up >>152667160
>>152670359Congrats dipshit, you're part of the problem.
>>152671268Ruegger cartoon fans are OG internet psychopaths. That guy spamming his wall of text at you could potentially be a veteran of early 1990s webrings who's in his 60s or even 70s by now. You should be honored.
>>152671174Case in point
