Straight Boy Summer
>>154347970what if abel was a girl
>>154347988
Abel and Adam belong to human women.
what is this facial expression trying to convey?
>>154348095Absolutely no damns whatsoever.
>>154348095>Am I supposed to care about these sinners at all
So will Lilith Eve be a metaphor for an absurdly toxic relationship that should be cut off.
>>154348076She’s too gay to do that
>>154347988Mating Press, but less vigorously than if he was a boy
is co a fob/ mcr or patd board?
Abel and his sinner gf
>>154349239>I stole thisSuper faggotry just put your god damn signature in the bottom corner and be happy people are appreciating your art.Thanks for sharing though anon.
>>154348231No MatPat. That's just your weird fanfiction.
>>154349555A GAME FANFICTION, THANKS FOR WATCHING!
>>154349555Lilith Eve is basically Adam and Charlie being attached to the same toxic person that is terrible to them and Charlie is still going to be really messed up in it because Eve would literally still be her mom.
>>154349688Nope. Viv ain't doing that you dingus.
Matpat be like:>https://x.com/simius_raz/status/2015506619224711487?s=20>https://x.com/simius_raz/status/2014323088939233769?s=20
>>154349958ohhh godddd i hate ppl like this
>>154349958>>154349984Luckily it's not him. Weird that they share some specific brand of autism.
Lute is Eve. She's also probably a very disappointed mom.
1/2
>>1543502232/2
>>154350210This is the way.
>>154350223>>154350230Cute dumb bitch
>>154349958Okay. That second post is legitimately insane. To larp so hard that the new identity somehow becomes more preferable. Can happen but pretty dark.
>>154349958A whole Google document about Lucifer getting smashed by the deer?https://x.com/simius_raz/status/2066563789516919064
>>154350356Lilith and Eve roleplaying each other for so long that they've swapped identities. That's a leap. I can MAYBE buy that once, but twice? No. With Lute and Eve, I view it like Vaggie becoming Vaggie. Same person, different name. She's still and always was Eve. "Lute" is just the name she goes by now. That's very different from one person literally becoming another. It also goes against what they've said in that A24 interview, that if there are two physical characters, then they are those respective characters.
>>154350382That's the one.
Anyone else think Abel was referring to Seth instead of Cain during his portion and Hear My Hope? I feel like that would make a lot more sense... Adam does not give me the impression he would care for his sinner son. At least not after what he did. Not only that, but he makes fun of Charlie specifically for viewing the sinners as her family. Makes me think he doesn't have his family down in Hell.
>>154350452It makes even more sense when you realise she can avoid a lot of the baggage of being Eve by taking the name Lute.
>>154350533It's complicated. The issue Seth is more obscure compared to Abel and Cain. Viv already isn't very knowledgeable when it comes to this stuff ( I actually believe the rumour she didn't know Saint Peter was a real guy). I could see her making Cain more sympathetic. Having the rock incident be accidental kill( him hitting his brother in anger but never with the intention of murder) since that stuff feels more her style. As for Adam he could just give his direct kids a pass which doesn't extend to the sinners distantly descended from him and Eve.
>>154350534Exactly. I don't think she's exactly keen on having that permanent reminder and doing damage to her current reputation as Lieutenant. She needs people to take her seriously (they don't, regardless) and to not see her as the stupid little girl she was in the garden. I'm personally theorize that it's not a secret to anyone in heaven except maybe Adam, and he probably had a feeling? But I'm also okay if it was something that her and Sera arranged, and nobody else knows. I'll take either or.
>>154350452Lute has nothing about her design to imply she’s Eve at all.The fan designs that try to don’t work. But I do like Eden Lute designs a lot.
>>154350586Charlie's storybook is not to be trusted, that's been made clear by Viv. And "Eve" resembles Lilith's past artworks. Same bangs and everything, and not once has she ever been referred to as Eve. The design is the least of the issue. Not when everything else is literally pointing to her being Eve.
>>154350586>Lute has nothing about her design to imply she’s Eve at all.Almost likes she's actively trying to not imply that. Almost likes she's trying to distance herself from her old identity and the stigma that comes with it.
>>154350570Or Cain is just an asshole who forms his entire identity hating Abel.
>>154350613This is a valid take but also... Almost like hairstyles can't change :o crazy stuff... Look at that one cartoon Steven Gem or whatever. There was literally a flashback sequence where it showed both the mom and her alter identity as separate individuals interacting with each other. Lucifer in Lilith would pull some shit like that, especially when recounting the story to Charlie.
>>154350617Knowing Viv I'm not sure if she's gonna go that direction.
>>154347970is that a dohna dohna cover reference?
>>154347970Still can't believe that a certain sagging artist got incredibly butthurt over this, even after Viv herself said "it's ok to have headcanons"
>>154350656That was incredibly embarrassing.
>>154347970This show is highly satanic necause it has DEMONS and HOMERSEXUAL
>>154350579>it was something that her and Sera arranged, and nobody else knows.I like this idea the best because it could be tied to the concept that Eve got blamed and judged the most by the angels of heabt. Much of the heavenborn putting all the blame on her while ignoring the fact Lucifer screwed everything up because of their bias towards humans.
>>154350656The meltdowns were glorious. Straight Adam and Abel mindbroke the fujos. Can't wait for straight Lute reveal. Even better if she's Eve.
>>154350606I don’t care. I don’t care.>>154350613Anon. I’m pretty sure there are already former murderers, pedos, and etc. in heaven as redeemed winners.If the name Eve is that bad, they could just reorganize her to Adam like she’s some replacement for Eve. Cause she’s not really built for fighting but for birthing.I think the same for Lilith Eve that Lute would actually serve to be the muscle for Eve to use to make her the season 3 final boss. A total reinforcement of how Eve manipulated so many lives before her by taking hold of Lute’s power by her easily manipulated broken heart.
>>154350670*angels of heaven Fuck this phone and curse these large fingers
>>154350680If Lute doesn’t turn out to be Eve, I wonder if it would be even more offensive for them because Lute would willingly want to serve a totally straight role as a normal wife and mother all on her free will, all despite her not being made for Adam to serve that role like Eve was. She instead desires it.
>>154350685>redeemed winnersHeadcanon much?>I think the same for Lilith Eve that Lute would actually serve to be the muscle for Eve to use to make her the season 3 final boss.No MatPat that's dumb and incredibly lame. I'm thankful everyday you don't write the show because somehow it would be worse with you at the helm.
>>154350685>Headcanon Alert
>>154350716If Lilith isn’t using a mega powerful minion Charlie feels a lot of guilt for, then it would be really lame.Lilith is supposed to be very dark and unfair and using people as puppets.
>>154350712I'm pretty sure the reason she was not in Pride is because it'd be really fucking suspicious with all three of them, being straight?? Hmmmmm. And that's on top of Viv's interview saying that they have good rock voices, they sound good together and that will get a song...Oh yeah, it's the Eden family.
>>154350716Read the Bible. The winners in Hazbin Hotel are people who’be repented in life and used their chance to become better.Adam says it outlawed in Hell is forever.
>>154350712I think it would piss them off more if she's actually Eve because it would imply even after supposedly gaining free will( still think that bit is bullshit and Lucifer is delusional) she stayed with Adam and fulfilled her role as a mother. The idea that Eve actually loved Adam and stayed with him through everything would crush their headcanon of her being some independent woman who actually hated him and couldn't care of he died.
>>154350740Also, Jessica Vosk herself is a straight ally trololol
>>154350746>Headcanon Alert
>>154350749Oh 100%, bet on it. They're already showing that despite the fact that she, Lute, Is in love with this man. I think her being Eve would just drive the point home. I don't know why though? Because it wouldn't affect the ships except the ones with Abel....
>>154350680>Can't wait for straight Lute reveal.That being a potential source of controversy still blows my mind.>"Lute loves Adam">makes sense to us>"She's also straight">FUCK YOU VIVZIEPOP! THIS IS LESBIAN ERASURE!
>>154350749>still think that bit is bullshit and Lucifer is delusionalOh it's absolutely no coincidence that Eve, in Charlie's book, ""gladly"" took the fruit. They just wanted to save her! They just wanted to give her knowledge! Really!!!I don't know if Viv will portray her this way, but I also like to think that Lilith perhaps have jealousy or resentment also pushed the apple onto Eve. I wouldn't be opposed to that, but I wouldn't want it to fall flat and make it purely a jealousy thing, especially in Viv's hands.
>>154350775Brother some fuckers had a meltdown when Adam the guy literally created to have kids and like women was revealed to be straight. You need to treat this fandom like children if you want to keep your sanity.
>>154350781My theory is that the kid inside Eve was what they were truly after. And they’re using Eve as a machine to birth it out the way they wanted it to be.Lilith a little uncertain about it, but Lucifer was already too deep into it to stop now.
>>154350781Honestly knowing Viv it's probably gonna be a combo of Lucifer being ignorant and stupid but he actually believed it was gonna be a good thing ( because she babies him hard) and Lilith being a jealous bitch who actually knew this would end badly for Eve. The conflict between the two is gonna be when Lilith reveals she knew that shit would hit the fan and didn't tell Lucifer about it in the end absolving him of any responsibilities.
>>154350818Oh fuck, this is cute.
>>154350825No MatPat.
>>154350826Oh shit, that's actually pretty cover. That would indeed solve him of responsibilities. And then she'd be somewhat justified in the sense that maybe she felt like there was no way out. I could see them doing something like that but maybe Lilith isn't doing it necessarily out of malice, or at least pure malice. And maybe part of her did want to give her the freedom she thought Eve lacked. Yeah, yeah... No fucking wonder Lute talks to her like that LOL
>>154350825>Headcanon Alert
>>154350818
>>154350838>CoverCLEVER. Fucking jank ass phone
I know the "correct" reason for her looking at her hand when she says " I have seen firsthand the destruction demons have caused us. The threat they pose. I have lost so much, I have endured!" is because she's looking at the hand she ripped, but in my schizo mind, I really like to think of this is the hand she used to take the apple. Also, this specific line implies that she has suffered for a very long time, as in, not just Adam's death.Gee, I wonder what other situation she would have encountered demons so up close.
Oh no. Lilith is divorcing Lucifer so hard she is calling herself Lillith in season 3.
>Angel Dust confronts his father over his sin of killing him>lets his dad go, thus redeeming his sin of patricide>"So I redeemed my big sin, why aint I in heaven?">Husk: "What about the other ones?">AD: "huh?">Husk: "You know, the other murders? you were in the mob, you killed tons of people.">"wait, those count too?? Shit, imma be here a while longer then...">cue everyone laughing
>>154350876I think she was an angel in hell and there was a charming sinner down there that promised it was a gift. Since the whole deal with exorcists is that none of them are good, and all of them are corrupted creatures. So there is no pure sample of them. Adam was implied to not eat the apple so his race wasn’t totally screwed. But there was only one Lute and no one else. So of course a charming man would be her main tempter.
>>154350854It's ok man. My phone and accursed fingers also screw me over.
>>154350878You ok buddy?
>>154350903No MatPat. That's just your fanfiction which has no relation to the show. You need actual evidence not headcanon.
>>154350903>Hedcanon Alert
I wish MatPat used a trip so we could at least filter his delusions.
>>154350911You see. There is an official white board Viv made and in the names of them, Vaggi and Lillith are there. Before the full release of season 2.
>>154350927So what was the point of your original comment?
>>154350927Is Lilith with 2L's in the middle even used in pop culture? I only see people using Lilith without the extra L.
>>154350916Lute has little to nothing.However, I think might know who is the sinner that tempted her and it would be Zestial.The guy is a literal grey scarecrow in black clothes and was shown in the pilot holding a red apple. He’s also canonically one of the oldest characters in Hell. A kind of sinner Lute could’ve interacted with a long time ago, presumably if she’s also an ancient creation herself.
>>154350926He won't because he would be ignored by everyone. I think he craves the attention.
>>154350950No. But it’s a part of Viv’s stupid trope. Names altered with a single letter change.
>>154350952>Headcanon Alert
>>154350952Zestial is not Cain you delusional weirdo. Stop shilling your fanfic. I'm genuinely questioning if you actually watched the show because you reek of larping.
>>154350956Still gonna call her Vaggie and Lilith. Changing one letter that does not even affect it phonetically is really dumb.
>>154350950Lillith is literally Eve.And one of the Viv drawings that have the Lillith name instead of Lilith fits into Eve’s silhouette. With the same exact hair style.Yes. This old crap didn’t change and this is the commitment of her divorcing Adam to be her own woman.
>>154350927For reference: I remember when this was the hot topic lol
>>154350989You are fucking mentally challenged MatPat. Is Vaggie and Vaggi supposed to be different people?
>>154350995STILL no mention of Eve (lol jk, she's right there: Lute) - Roo and Lillith are awfully close... Yeah, if there is a switch, it's with Roo and Lilith, for sure.
>>154350995>Serves CuntThis shit is so dumb
>>154351012Trust Miss Vosk
>>154350995>>154351020I don't even know what that means, and am afraid of knowing.
>>154351009No. You don’t get it.The reason why Eve changed her name to Lillith is because Adam was the one that given Eve to her.So… maybe Eve is the name that would be given to Lute in the future.
>>154351020Maybe it's code for something?
>>154351030>Headcanon Alert
Lute is Ev
With Lute being Eve, it actually makes a lot of sense why she's not seen or heard anywhere. Not in the 'cunt' board despite Lilith and Roo being there, not in Sera's orb despite seeing Lucifer during his Eden days, Adam, but no Eve. Because she's right there, the entire time. Lute's image constantly comes up: during Sera's Confession, in the orb when Vaggie's past was revealed (foreshadowing, probably), in Hear My Hope during Sera's part.. it's Eve lmao
>>154351027Posing to look attractive basically. The female equivalent of aura farming. Pretty much the same dumb crap.
>>154351030So instead of picking a new name she literally copied Lilith with an extra L. Do you think before write?
>>154351061Anon. That twitter radioapple guy that was cited figured it out.Eve no longer goes by Eve, but by Lillith.
>>154351059Yes
>>154351061"Every transgression must serve as a lesson." a wild Lute appears - lol i wonderrrr what that means
>>154351073No MatPat. You are being delusional and stupid. You are the king of larping here.
>>154351069I didn’t do this. Viv did. And some guy figured it out.Vaggie changed her own name to Vaggi. Blitzo puts an X on his o.
>>154351073lol I knew he was going to agree with the radioapple schizo. Yeah, this theory definitely holds no water. nutjobs believing in it is proof. good to know.
Ok I'm just gonna ignore MatPat now before he gets butt hurt enough to start reporting you when you don't agree with his fanfiction.
.... seriously? it's the colors from the Eve puppet taking the red apple inverted.
>>154351104The Eden puppets are black and gray. Lute's entire color scheme is monochrome. And that constant splash of gold/red blood? lmaoOh Jessica Vosk, i know you dun fucked up with the spoiler but fuck am i so thankful.
>>154351112She got really excited when she found out how big her role was. Being Eve is a big deal.
>>154351078Notice that Lute is on the right side of the speaker and Sera is on the Speaker’s left side, with her back turned away from the speaker in shame.When God judges. He puts the ones he likes on the right ride. And the ones he wants to punish on his left.
>>154351122>"I think I’m surprised at what’s to come, and I think everybody will have a lovely mouth wide open gasp. And there’s a lot that’s to come, but I must say the villain era is strong with this one,">"I think everybody is going to gasp at the end of this season in a massive way. Fans are not going to expect it. Or maybe they will expect it, because the fans are incredibly smart in a way that I haven't dealt with fandom before.">"She's Adam's right hand and she is going to surprise you in a really big way. She is not who you think she is, but she's a villain and she's not so nice"Real shit. She's literally been knowing.
>>154351126The Speaker of God being the one angelic being who actually understands how hard things are for Eve while the rest of the shitters ignore her is very poetic.
>>154350955He used to but then stopped when people started filtering after many failed attempts to bypass it.> I think he craves the attention.That's why I keep telling niggas to not engage with him or even utter his name, I'm looking at you Looty you newfaggot bitch, you're in adamfag country quite calling them all you know who
>>154351144In my defense brother, the one that's been interacting with matpat in this thread is another lute/eve schizo. swear on my brother's grave. i just uploaded the cunt board and Lute images. sometimes lurking is a lot more fun.
>>154351144Admittedly waiting for him to drop his spaghetti when it comes to Zestial, Abel, Lilith or Lute is the best way to detect him . He literally can't control himself.
>>154351139Wow. She's real excited huh. lmao girl
>>154351140Look at how angry the Speaker is at Sera.The point isn’t about the innocent sinners. It’s the fact Sera misused the Exorcists and cared nothing for any of them.
>>154351150Indeed it is, you're learning
>>154351156Exactly, the faggot cannot for the life of him hide who he is or not sperg out about his theories 24/7 or be subtle about them lmao (It's how his socials keep getting discovered)
>>154351171Know what's funny? He actually does understand. He just doesn't like it. I'd have more respect for him if he just said that, but he goes on like his stuff is canon. I keep saying he should write a book / fanfiction. But he'd rather sperg out here.
>>154351157It's gonna be fun because regardless of who plays Lilith she is gonna end up massively overshadowed by Jessica. Lilith getting forgotten after the shock that Lute=Eve will create and her villain shenanigans is very poetic. Lilith being eclipsed after Eve steals her thunder (just like she stole Adam) is very accurate.
tbf. i think most current Lute Eve schizos get their stuff (or copy) from the schizo on twitter. talks out of her ass but she at least gives sources and links. she's like matpat or the radioapple person with a brain. i think she's the only one that seriously advocates for the theory. it's gonna get harder to tell since every1 gets her shit anyway.
>>154351177At least he stfu about the Adam coming back as a seraphim (he used that scene in hell is forever as evidence, you know the one) theory..... only to then replace it with abelschizophrenia lmao
>>154351177It's kinda weird how 4chan brings out the deepest insanity in schizos. Like you might recognise them on another site but they're more mellowed out. Pretty sure one of the Adam fan girls that lurks here regularly posts on Reddit.
>>154351190Not if they get Idina Menzel or Lady Gaga. tho, i'm not in the world of broadway so idk who's the top dog, so to speak.
>>154351203I can kinda see that because of the visual in season one, with the wings.
>>154351197There's was also an old Reddit post pre S2 which explained the theory. It's was probably what sowed the seeds of Lute=Eve.
>>154351197Well yeah because their arguments aren't baseless or from her imagination.
>>154351207Don't know who the first lady is and Viv ain't getting Lady Gaga.
>>154351225She's also not a massive ass like MatPat. Being cordial enough can do you wonders of you're trying to convince people something.
>>154351207Thanks to that one animatic I reckon Eden Epinosa is the lady they casted
>>154351238What animatic?
>>154351229Elsa from Frozen
>>154351251Ohh. Honestly it would probably give me massive whiplash to hear her in that role.
>>154351219There was another Lute Eve schizo on reddit wayyyy back into season one. They were like Matpat but on steroids. Their current arguments are just as bad as the Lilith Rosie ones: Lute has an ear, the blood stain on her uniform is in the shape of an apple, Gravity = referencing Isaac Newton, an apple fell on him = therefore Eve. Yes, seriously. I think they spoke Russian or something? There was a serious language barrier and the translator they used was shit, so their arguments would come out even more nonsensical. I think it might have gotten a bad rap from there. But then the twitter Lutey person came and it's gaining traction, but it's pissing people off because they're actually not making shit up lol
>>154351238Because of a fan animatic? People just want her because her and Jeremy Jordan (Lucifer) did duets on the Tangled series. Is she a bigger deal than Jessica Vosk?
>>154351266Goes to show how many people didn't actually read Jessica's interviews and shit lol They'd realize she's been saying shit like this since 2024. I think her first interview was a few days b4 season one released on Prime.
>>154351292fucking christ, Jessica can't really handle herself huh lmao She's been knownig
>>1543512064chan is a garbage dump in that everything is anonymous. No better place to vent than here ig. I have a friend like that except they do so on twitter.
>>154351280Isn't she also in broadway? one might think the jeremy jordan and eden epinosa casting might be intentional just for the Varian and Cassandra reference cause I feel like they're gonna invoke Cassandra a bit with Lillith and make her a sympathetic antagonist
>>154351319I could see it. I guess since Viv said Lilith's voice actor is 'queen-like and diva-like', that singer doesn't exactly strike me as such. But I don't know shit abt Broadway, so
>>154351206I Matpat will say this to you.This site is full of demonic bastards that do their spells and witchcraft. Anyone that asks Kek for dubs is a practice of it. It pushes complete isolation and confusion by every corner. And any good company here is a fleeting leaf that never lasts. Unless you prefer to be bad and engage with bad company.The stuff I have seen. From their games, their videos, and their songs. It’s all so destructive. They watch people die as entertainment. Perform rituals for cartoon characters like Chris Chan does, with the same horrible results occurring. And deny the darkness about it.Everything here is a portal for demons to enter and torment.
>>154351238https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tQNvqf3Im8This one?
>>154351328Well what do you know she also played Elphaba
>>154351332>They watch people die as entertainment. Perform rituals for cartoon characters like Chris Chan doesMost people who use 4chan these days absolutely don't do that and when they do we mock them for being edgelords and schizos.
>>154351346AND SO THE PLOT THICKENS, OHO HO HOJessica Vosk and Eden Espinosa?? lol look at me in the eye Lute ain't Eve. bitch pleassseeeeee
>>154351340Yeah that's the one, actually I might share my favourite Adam ones
>>154351354Do it
Do you guys think Viv will actually make radioapple a thing.
>>154351358This one is a classic https://youtu.be/UKMQr1fGxCU?si=qG_c1UnZm2Lufn1XTurn on eng subtitles for this one, but tfw russoids give Adam more depth in a single fan song than the show up to this point did https://youtu.be/ZIxGdQaj0Ik?si=LC7zfZqSKHDGaWh2This one was almost lost media but the show should have done a scene like this, show Adam in action during exterminationhttps://web.archive.org/web/20240731151123/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy1aX91-tEI&list=RDwvAW1qLPmBo
>>154351383I don't think she will actually because she's so insistant that the official interpretation of Alastor is he's asexual.
>>154351348Ha. Yeah right.They literally make gooning sessions to cartoon characters here all of the time. I witnessed it multiple damn times even on SFW boards.And guess what happens. They turn crazy, groom, and/or troon. Or even think of it as “cool” and “based” as they dig deeper to more degenerate tastes. Nothing will improve. It will just get worse. Because no one loves God anymore and feels the pains in his heart. They love the corruptions of the angels, their undead children, and what evils packaged up for them by the elites. They think it’s honorable to be an abomination instead of something pure as Adam. Instead of feeling deep and utter shame of being an abomination. Even the pure want to become monsters by the horrible technology we’ve been developing.
>>154351409Alastor has dreams of being romantic with the right woman.
>>154351409She still needs to bait the fujos for engagement.
>>154351631
>>154351353I think the lute form is a prison of some kind for eve
I always wonder if there is actually a divine hand behind Adam X Lute the whole time.
>>154351648Most definitely.
>>154351644Her form being nerfed would make lot of sense. Heaven putting extra restrictions on the woman they blame for the apple incident is in character.
>For Blitzo, Eve, and Vaggie they renamed themselves to separate themselves.>For Lute, Adam will rename her to be with her.
>>154351678It also makes sense for Eve to be nerfed more generally compared to Adam and Lilith because she's already one iteration down from the first two humans, being made from Adam's flesh rather than raw creation dust, even if she is still a hand-crafted being.
>>154351678I think Lute was supposed to be a special angel but that true form of hers is too corrupted for her to expose.
>>154351695No MatPat.
Tasty Rib
>>154351698Honestly wouldn't mind if her old form was a bit taller and stronger than her current one. Her being made from Adam rib shouldn't be that big of nerf compared to magical creation dust. She still needed to fulfil the same purposes as Lilith.
>>154351730I don't mind the rib wife being short. Lute is still a tall woman and only looks shorter next to Adam. It'd be an easy explanation for why Abel is shorter than his dad.
