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Because the entire British wave of comic writers were just different strains of teenage edgelord.

>Moore
The teenager who read The Communist Manifesto and started pretending their basic bitch ancom poli-sci opinions were profound, while pushing utilitarianism

>Ellis
The teenager who read The God Delusion and started rebelling against frankly very permissive Christian parents, quickly replacing God in his life with Trusting The Science; pretends to be anti-authoritarian, but also demands almost as much of a nanny state as previous

>Ennis
The teenager who discovered he could swear as much as he wanted when his parents were out of the house, and started burning his action figures to fit in with "The Cool Kids" who frankly have even less personality

>Morrison
Read a book on New Age occultism and made it his entire personality

>Gaiman
Read a book on regular occultism and made it his entire personality

And don't get me started on Pat Mills.
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It’s amazing how there’s a wall of text and yet each point is reductive
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>>154415177
>barely a handful of lines
>"wall of text"
Not beating the "Americans are all spackers" accusations, m8.
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>>154414942
All good writers regardless of medium are edgelords
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You don't have anything to say about Pat Mills
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>>154415204
Nope
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>>154415226
Yes they are stalker child
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>>154414942
Almost like comic writers are just nerds with parental hangups who never grew up! Imagine that.
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>>154415231
Not even, you are just high on your farts
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>>154414942
Everybody took the wrong lessons from Moore.
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>>154414942
That same shit was basically the entire era. Every comic was
>They cuss now, and kill people! Everything is DAAARRRK and shades of gray everywhere!!!!
Todd McFarlane was making Spawn, Jim Lee was making Wetworks and Wildcats, Venom was the most popular Marvel character, Everyone else wanted to imitate Image stuff. There was no escaping it by 1992.
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>>154415242
No, child. That is you, and you will be going to prison for spreading such lies
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>>154415263
Lol, delusional
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>>154415262
Yeah but that was oversized guns, copious amounts of pouches and holographic covers.
It wasn't like the 2000's when it was rape and sexual assault every issue.
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>>154414942
Moore is a jewish millionaire leftist but he's not British
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>>154415357
No, retard
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>>154415373
Yes, jewish retard
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>>154414942
And they are the best comic writers we've had.
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>>154414942
>Ennis
>British
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>>154415397
Retard.
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>>154415396
You are that
>>154415555
North Ireland
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>>154415555
He sucks so much Brit cock he might as well be.
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>>154415596
You mean OP
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>>154414942
>>154414942
>Ennis
Irish

>Moore
>Giaman
Jews

>Morrison
>Ellis
British

But they're all middle class at the least
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>>154415728
>>Moore
>Giaman
Jews
No, glue sniffer
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>>154415736
>>154415604
Saying no won't stop the noticing
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>>154415736
Huh? Has Gaiman been expelled from the order? I don't know about Moore.
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>>154415753
Start noticing your stupidity
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>>154415699
Tard didn't even read the filename.
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>Milligan never gets any love
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>>154415862
I notice your people have an average IQ of 80
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>>154415911
Like yourself
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>>154415916
That doesn't make sense but you are retarded compared to white people
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>>154415728
>>Moore
>Jew
Source?
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>>154415937
Doubly wrong, burger
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>>154414942
Fair point. However, Big Jobs.
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>>154415957
Why do low IQ ESLs think all whites are American?
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>>154416241
They probably just think American is another word for European, which it is. They're just not being intentional when they do it.
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>>154416241
Lol, you are still wrong
>>154416305
No
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>>154416241
Why would anyone think Americans are white?
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>>154416241
why do you assume extended session learning when taking a beating from a chink isn't real learning? to my darling wife, your bedwarmer is sweating quite badly aren't they? believing oneself to be perfect son a sayajin is as my teacher quoted the sign of a delusional mindset. so not presume i don't guess there's a content filter. how gracious of you to tell me!
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>>154416393
Buy an ad, then neck yourself.
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>>154414942
You're right, just not in the way you think you are.

The "British Invasion" brought some of the best capeshit writers of all time to the States, and they produced some of the best comics of all time. You may disagree, but that just outs you as a complete casual who doesn't know shit about comics. I'm not saying everything they produced was good, but when they were actually good, they were literally better than everyone else at the time.
The parts you're right about, is that they were indeed edgy and that the consequences of their work were indeed a disaster. There's no point pretending their works, on average, weren't "edgier" than most of what came before in cape comics, but because they were actually talented writers and not just ascended fanboys, they knew HOW to be edgy. The edge was deliberate and meaningful in a way that supported the stories and made them feel more impactful. To put it succinctly, the edge had a point.
Because they were so good, all of the Americans that came after them have tried to be like them in one way or another, but since none of those American writers were even a fraction as good as the likes of Moore, Morrison or Ellis, they learned all the wrong lessons and started writing edge without a point, which had a profound negative impact on the genre that can be felt to this very day. This is the disaster that the British Invasion caused. Not by writing stories that were both edgy and good, but by allowing the Americans to think that the edge itself is what made the stories good.
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>>154414942
Christ cucks coming to 4chan has been almost as bad as Israel filling it with shit to destabilize it, the stormfront migration, gamer gate and the first trump election.

Every little thing and just more and more of you ding dongs come here
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>>154416780
Seethe.
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>>154416780
Leftists pretend they don't understand to make discourse impossible
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>>154414942
>"entire medium of comics"
>brings up nothing specifically about the medium
You're just complaining about your shallow impressions of the politics and personalities of these people.
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>>154415226
>Nope

He's right, christ cuck.

See, this is where your conditioning of see writing as absolute truths that dont change really.hurts you.

Easy example. A Christmas Carol was edgelord shit at release. Before that book, Christians just went to church because the church would rather them do that than drink and party like the old pagan ways and teens and 20 somethings would drink and party and fuck.

A christmas carol was edgy in that itnunified all of that into this idea of celebrating the kindness of humanity with friends and family with much less drinking and no mention of fucking outside of marriage. AND it was critical of greed. Edgy stuff. Can you imagine being 20 something and preparing for youe pagan day kf drinking and fucking and you read thia book that has the audacity to tell you to go have dinner with your mother and celebrate christ and the good of mankind? Or being a dad and getting ready to spend all day in church and this book tells you to spend just a little bit at church and then go home and have a nice glass of wine and a good meal with your lovely family?

It seems like nothing now but that book was edgy stuff and bigger than Star Wars. It changed Christmas forever and to aome exstent even new years because people spend those weeks thinking about how they have lived. Charles was a bid of a dick to his wife but man did he stumble into something good.

God, imagine writing a book that changed a major holiday
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That's all true, and yet they dunked on the best American writers of their time: Marv Wolfman, Len Wein, Gerry Conway, Steve Englehart, JM DeMatteis, Mike W Barr, Mike Grell, Michael Fleisher, Denny O'Neil, Roger Stern, Cary Bates, David Michelinie, Roy Thomas, Bill Mantlo, Doug Moench, Chris Claremont (actually sort of a Brit himself). The only American to achieve their level of superstardom was Frank Miller, who was carried just as much by his artistic ability.
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>>154416914
Still coping, I see.
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>>154416763
>The "British Invasion" brought some of the best capeshit writers of all time to the States, and they produced some of the best comics of all time. You may disagree, but that just outs you as a complete casual who doesn't know shit about comics. I'm not saying everything they produced was good, but when they were actually good, they were literally better than everyone else at the time.
This is objectively, categorically wrong.
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>>154416914
Brown people worship cow piss then spend all writing shit like this
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>>154416987
The pajeet saw "British invasion" and went into panic mode lel
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>>154417013
Stop simping for talentless limey hacks.
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>>154416987
Awards, sales, consistent reviews and references to their works along with the neurotic need to revisit this topic every weekend all illustrate otherwise. But one day you'll surely manifest your delusion so hang in there sis.
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>>154417055
Go suck on your pacifier.
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>>154417081
>Awards, sales, consistent reviews and references to their works
Cuties is a masterpiece of modern cinema, according to you.
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>>154416780
>>154416851
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>>154417254
Don't deflect
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>>154417341
Do you truly, unironically, believe that critic reviews and awards are a genuine barometer for a work's quality? Yes or no?
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>>154417384
No.
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>>154417319
Why do you always post that when you have no counter-argument?
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>>154417394
Then those brits' crap is not good because they're evidently mediocre when you analyze them on their own merits.
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>>154417438
It's the truth you fucking goof!
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>>154417479
Sure thing
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>>154416851
>Leftists pretend they don't understand to make discourse impossible

No, you're just stupid. You saying dumb ass shit and then getting questioned and not understood isnt some plot against you, dumbass.

Jesus christ. You guys cant take responsibility for a fucking thing.
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>>154416997
>Brown people worship cow piss then spend all writing shit like this

>everyone i disagree with has different genetics than me

It never ends.
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>>154417547
You are describing yourself
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>>154417479
If Brits are mediocre, then what is great?
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>>154417698
Me.
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>>154416945
Frank Miller only got that way because he was competing with Alan Moore.
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>>154417962
Daredevil predates Moore's DC work. He grew up reading superhero comics and wanted to make them more like how he was imagining them to be when he was a kid and not like how they actually were.
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>>154417998
Moore highly praised Miller's Daredevil run early on, and they became friends and exchanged ideas once Moore entered the American scene. Miller said he had to step up his game after reading Moore's work.
Miller combined superhero comics of his youth, The Spirit reprints he read in the 70s, Lone Wolf and Cub, Heavy Metal, and other popular fiction to build his career on, but Moore made him want to write better.



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