>new trailer drops>Barely any stella>Barely any loona>Pretty much no octavia>Only some m&m, mostly centered around millie still being just a prop for her husband>Most of it is just fag drama dialed up to 11>Stolas' flanderization from horny deviant nobleman to sissy uwu faggot is completeI wonder if there are people on this board who feel betrayed by this complete change from S1 and the shift from episodic comedy to...whatever its turned intoAny of you even planning on watching it when it comes out in around a month?
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>>155544217That's great OP but >>155544288.Now make with the waifufagging. We know that's what you're here for.
stuffing your face in fur/feathers
>>155544522Octavia's smooth, silky and soft chest plumage...
>>155544217>Any of you even planning on watching it when it comes out in around a month?I gave up on watching this since the end of season 1
Imagine introducing Octavia to sonic the hedgehog and realizing you just awakened a new obsession in her that overtakes the goth one.
>>155544522Pummelling Stellas cloaca
>>155544559>Getting her addicted to Sonic>Wait until the middle of a big important dinner to show her blarms sonic
>>155544217>Most of it is just fag drama dialed up to 11From pretty early on in season one this was the main plot of the show. I don't really see how someone could feel betrayed by it continuing to be the focus.
>>155544569season one had the cherub episode though
>>155544590Keenie, my beloved
>>155544217The shorts have shown that they can't write episodic comedy either. But the reliance on Stolitz has gotten downright weird. Viv has no one to reign in her obsession with yaoi.
Is it called 'yaoi' cause you get an owie in your butt from the buttsecks?
>>155544643>But the reliance on Stolitz has gotten downright weirdPersonally, i would keep the show as about relationships, but i'd add one more character (human duh, lets call him anon for convenience's sake) and ship him with octavia while also giving M&M more lightEssentially, the show would be about 3 relationshipsStolitz, which is a relationship built on power imbalances, lust and coercion, it is extremely toxic and doomed to failure M&M, which is built on codependency and desperation, both of them saw what they wanted in the other, not what really was there. There would be a point in which they could have made it work, but it too fails and they drift apartAnd last but not least, anon and octavia, which is built on mutual support, respect and understanding. They would grow closer as the show goes on and their bond would only become stronger as stolas fucks off to go live with his buttbuddy, abandoning both of them (anon is his apprentice which is how he gets added to the story in the first place)They would, of course, have their own moments of weakness and discord, but would overcome any adversity by the end, freeing one another from their own respective fears and insecuritiesIt would culminate in anon and the gang crashing octavia's arranged wedding, anon confessing to her and her running into his arms before they portal the fuck out, anon bridal carrying her through the threshold
>>155544688This but with Stella
>>155544643>Viv has no one to reign in her obsession with yaoi.The lead actor is a gay man in possibly the biggest mainstream role he will ever have and he has creative input. Even if Viv wanted to change direction, that ship has long sailed.
>>155544776Imagine if (you) were an important person in vivzie's life and could influece the development of the showHow would you do it without getting attacked by those gay sycophants she's surrounded herself with?
>>155544815Fucking them into submission.
>>155544815Fucking Viv into submission.
>>155544815Can they just submit or am I obligated to fuck someone?
>>155544217Helluva boss indeed!
>>155544776Yeah but women like yaoi more than men.You really wanna know where Brandon overrode her? When "tall vampire-esque victorian-esque nobleman" was made a zesty bottom for "lower class overworked mentally ill person". That was clearly an actual gay man's call. A fujo wouldn't dare.
>>155544815Viv's MO seems to be that she separates towards 2 groups>Famous person I looked up to and liked>"Nobodies" who I can use as I please.The trick seems to be, yes, already be famous enough that she sees you as someone its important to network with.
>>155545369Pray-tell?
>>155545377Viv is a star fucker
>>155545406Basically, you should always assume the dominant in your average yaoi is gonna be based around what women find attractive. Stolas in Season One is basically straight out of a victorian period piece dark romance. Full of the same Byronic qualities you'd expect from such stories. Morally grey, entitled and driven with a certain obsession, yet clearly capable of love with a softer side. Now, what you need to understand is this. Gay guys and fujos, until quite recently, were kind of natural enemies. Like, gay guys used to openly hate fujos. Namely because, yeah, you're looking at someone blatantly fetishizing you while insisting they're not fetishizing you.It was a big part of western fujo stereotypes, the inability to admit they get off to it on that kind of level while writing some of the most sexualized power dynamic shit you will ever see.The older the gay guy, the more likely they hate fujos. I legit have met one who would act like just friends with his boyfriend at anime conventions entirely because of how uncomfortable fujos would make him at times.>>155545408Iirc there was, and I wanna stress that it was alleged, a rumor that Vivzie acted parasocial to the point of making Kesha uncomfortable.Keep in mind Kesha likely only did Bee's voice due to pandemic celebrity looking for work.
>>155545470>I legit have met one who would act like just friends with his boyfriend at anime conventions entirely because of how uncomfortable fujos would make him at timesReminds me of a story I heard eons ago about a guy and his brother cosplaying as some anime characters at a con and women coming up to them and asking if they could take pictures of them embracing or kissing.
>>1555455042000s-early 10s fujos were a different breed of deranged because they insisted the media they consumed was how gay relationships actually worked.The meta on that changed very recently but here's probably the go-to. My Immortal. My Immortal had tons of jokes referencing not just tropes of bad fanfiction but the stereotypes of fanfiction writers portrayed in Tara herself.One of the running ones was how Draco and Harry would start making out and girls would watch because they all love hot bi guys and it was so sexy, and then the story would pre-emptively call out whoever didn't like reading the passage "hamophobic".
>>155544288Fpbp
>>155545470>>155545504I dont know if anyone else noticed this but since High School, I noticed just how hypocritical fujos were. Fujos were always the ones saying men only like women with big boobs and no personality. Then they turn around and drool over two characters who hate each others guts and go "UWU, Dey secWetLY LuV eacH UddeR!!1!" It was the nascent beginning of the Tumblr fangirl and I didnt see that until college.
>>155545569Yes. Let us leave the yaoi-paddle era behind us and find peace.
>>155544217I don't give two shits about this show. I just wanna put that bitches ass through the mattress with my dick. I'm sure her faggy husband wouldn't care much
>>155545470>>155545569There is still some of that around. One of the biggest complaints about Heated Rivalry is that the author has no idea how gay sex actually works. I'd say there were two major changes recently, one good and one bad, that drove the shift. The bad one is the compartmentalization of queer discourse along sexuality and gender identity lines so heteronormativity is now more associated with gender stuff. The good one is that due to more social acceptance it's much easier to tell a bitch off or smack her if she's crossing a line.
>>155545759Eh, this one is more a problem with shippers overall. It's way more fucking noticeable when fujos do it.I've heard it summed up like this. "A man and a woman couldn't be friends without getting shipped. Now a man and a man can't have any kind of complexity or just hate each other without being shipped."I've heard a theory that goes as follows. Depending on the yaoi, fujos are dark romance fans somewhat disassociating. Like, they enjoy all these rapey tropes, but they don't like that they do.Think of it like this. When you see a porno aimed at men. It's always kinda goofy, extremely tropey, hokey acting, ridiculous plots. And hentai especially with stuff like the Fat Ugly Bastard or the femboy. It's intentional. If you showed a realistic rapey scenario. Self insertion is removed, it feels eerie imagining yourself as this guy if the woman is sobbing and screaming for help, and a certain level of goofiness off puts that. The difference between a bullethole in a video game and a realistic portrayal of someone getting shot.A lot of dark romance and yaoi don't do that because women who read often self-position the more submissive partner. The hapless young woman or in this case young man is simply the one in the scenario. While they feel guilty for conflicting with feminism, the character they're meant to self insert as has no victims.>>155545785I heard from a gay guy that you can visibly see the influence having an actual gay male director had in the show adaptation.To credit the fujos though, they themselves have started self-policing this kind of thing in their community
What would Stella do if a doctor diagnosed her as mentally retarded?
>>155546410Have him executed in the public square and she would proceed to ride my dick so she can pop out more retard babies
>>155546324Eugh. It's hideous.
The way Viv draws birds is atrocious and ugly.
>>155546500>t. dogfucker
>>155546510The way Viv draws dogs is atrocious and ugly.
>>155544569Why in the fuck is this show so focused on the boss character from Hell?I'm being facetious of course, but I do find that complaint pretty amusing. There's plenty of things you can nitpick about the show, like how Moxxie is essentially having his dad as his antagonist stolen by Blitz or how up until now, they've been bad about combining all the different plot threads. But there's a lot of people that can't even bother that kind of interesting story conversation because they're already too upset that Verosika or Wally or insert whatever other character doesn't get an entire episode of backstory or gets the focus in a trailer.It's fine if people don't like the main premise of a show. It's been clear what the core of the show is for literally 6 years now.>>155544590Season 2 had a Cherub episode too, for all intents and purposes. Full Moon was basically 90% a whacky adventure with and against the Cherubs.
>>155546500>>155546526let me guess...you wish they were fatter
helluva brap
>>155546561I wish Stella was fat. With my kids.
>>155546561I wish they were prettier not fatter.
>>155546561I mean...
>finish making love to Octavia in her bedroom>door opens>its Octavia>"Anon, what the FUCK are you doing?!">the Octavia by your side is gone>see Stolas' shadow form swooncing out the window out of the corner of your eyeOctaviabros, your response?
Reminder not to kill yourself. Your waifu has a restraining order drafted by an elite new york lawyer and there aren't many places in hell you could go.
>>155547166So...she's thinking of me!
Just watched some HK gameplay and has a thought: how similar are Radience and Stella? What would they do if they meet each other (disregarding obvious kill each other)?
>>155546561i wish they actually looked like demonic birds instead of elongated chibis
>>155547279Does the Radiance even have a personality?
>>155545470>a rumor that Vivzie acted parasocial to the point of making Kesha uncomfortableBruh.
>>155547543That's exactly what would happen with Beefags
>>155547028I actually had this idea, but with stella insteadShe grows a bit envious of her daughter and tries to ruin anon for her by banging you, so she disguises as her and tries to get into anon's pants, but shes a terrible actor, so anon immediately realizes something is wrong due to how OOC "octavia" is acting, so stella gets caughtThen she copes by saying that she was just testing him, but in truth she just wanted to feel like a real woman for once
>>155547708>she just wanted to feel like a real woman for onceNiggas will say shit like this and be flabbergasted when they're told that Stella is the most sympathetic character in the show
>>155547554>beeing the reason her security increases<3
>>155544288>The Collin post is now from over 4 years agoAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
>>155547776In my head, Verosikafags are the same guys who love smut involving multiple men banging a single woman
>>155547799While said Verosikafag watches or participates?
>>155547825Participates
>>155547543>Bee-lzebub will never make another appearance or get minimal linesgoodterrible designmore room for superior stella screentime
>>155548017>stella screentimeAnon, I...
>>155548017>more room for superior stella screentimedont get greedy, stellafagslet some other girls in the spotlight as wellbel, for example, she doesnt even have a voice
>>155547543>>155547554>>155548017She got recasted after her first appearance and like I said, it was a rumor.The rumor also wasn't like, that Vivzie was trying to fuck her, but that Vivzie was very specifically high on "Look at me, I know Kesha. I got Kesha on my show. Kesha and I hit it off and we're buds."That whole vibe where she was flaunting the celebrities around.The likely real answer is that Kesha had no intention of reprising the role to begin with and just kept doing things.It's the same issue everyone talked about in that Unicorn thread. There is way too much about Vivzie out there and that one was small, I think it spread for a bit if only because it lined up with how people were starting to feel about the VA debacle.You gotta understand, for all the shit Vivzie has done. People were calling her a zionist for a picture of her eating McDonalds.But that Unicorn comic does seem to confirm Vivzie seemingly runs a clout based mean girls style shitshow where she orbits things on talents and sycophancy
>>155547422In lore or in game? In game she is basically mad mad, but in lore it is implied that she was abondoned(partly because of her own actions), grew resentful and kinda killed the world because of it. There is also that extreme loneliness aspect which I deeply resonate with, with her "I WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN" line, so there is probably implied that she also become mad while existing alone in dream world and all that remained is hallow husk which tries make all world her slaves so that she never be so alone
>>155548304>that Unicorn comicwhat unicorn comic?
>>155548304>She got recasted after her first appearanceNah she had a few more lines in the S2 finale
If anything Rochelle being Bee's voice now means she'll probably get more lines cause she isn't as expensive.
>>155547708>she just wanted to feel like a real woman for onceBro wanted to feel like a real woman
Please don't kill StellaNot because "She's my waifu" but because this kind of characters downfall being death would feel thematically inappropriate. She IS a huge manipulative bitch. So make her fate be related to her stripped of her status and little control she has because it would be funnier than just outright killing her.
>>155544288>This anon said this in 2022It has gotten so bad, worse than thought possible>>155548352A former friend and the designer of the cherubs (Jane Gumball) made a unicorn self insert comic depicting Viv as an ugly pig witch that isn't what she seems. If you piece it together, Sam Miller (lead background artist) became more toxic the more she became friends with Viv and the 2 would talk shit about smaller indie artists, calling their work superior while everyone else's sucked. This was alleged behavior that Erin Frost exposed that has since been backed up by another person. Viv cut Jane off when her art was no longer useful to her. Ashley Nichols subtly implied Viv gave her scars and stood in solidarity with Jane, implying all the mean girl shit was 100 percent true. There's a lot more ugly shit Viv has been involved with but the unicorn comic is the most recent "this woman is toxic" expose
>>155549028I don't know why. This fate for any villain is just so funny to me.
>>155548914>She IS a huge manipulative bitchYes yes, Stolas is such an innocent uwu baby, everyone else is evil, thank you, Viv
Are (you) strong enough to lift your Helluva girl in a bridal carry?
>>155549073I never said that. Stella is awful but she's in an environment where she has no control so her only catharsis is picking on the sadsack she was forced with. That doesn't mean her behavior is acceptable but that doesn't mean Stolas isn't enabling her shitty behavior by being a doormat either. I genuinely don't think Stella gives a shit that Stolas fucked in imp. I think she's pissed that he made it public which ruins her image as used abandoned goods.
>>155549109Of course. (You) HAVE been lifting, right, Anon?
>>155549109Either way I win.
>>155549250LOONASFATBUTT
>>155548352>>155549047You can find the storytime here. https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155441353If nothing else, it is funny reading over everyone in in the thread slowly but surely realize what the comic actually is.And we still don't know the majority of metaphors. From what we can tell, a major running theme of the first half is that Spindlehorse early on was a massive dicksucking competition full of everyone acting as yes men during that whole gravy train of everyone hyping Vivzie up ushering in the birth of an indie animation renaissance. With this whole big vibe of who gets to "be by the witch's side."
>>155549109considering how light octavia must be, id say so
>>155549109I could bridal carry Stella even when she's gravid with our kids. And I would, often. She deserves to feel like the princess she is no matter what.
>>155549109Yeah.
>>155549456You can grab her and throw her off a roof
>>155549709You could do it as many times as you like, she flaps her wings and glides to the ground like a chicken in Ocarina of Time
>>155548914Sorry Stellabros. Stella is doomed to die in a fiery explosion out of Via, that simultaneously melts Andrealphus' ice consuming the palace as she assumes the position. And then Via gets to trauma bond with Blitz over what she's done, in due time.
Stella as a character insists on herself.
>>155549840Stella getting punished in this way while Stolas gets to walk free even though she was in the same situation as her and likely enabled her obsession with tormenting him by being outright disgusted with her before they even fucking met is bad writing. I'm not saying Stella needs to be redeemed or have this coming to Jesus moment to apologize for her behavior. But it's not poetic justice if she loses her life when she herself wasn't given a fucking chance to choose it. Meanwhile Blitzo is actively sabotaging every relationship he's ever been a part of but he gets free passes because "He's misunderstood and he's sorry."
Do you think her feet hurt from being in those heels a lot?
>>155550158Those are her feet
Stella as a character masturbates on herself
>>155550217We can't all go find some sootrat to use as a sex toy. Some of us have shame.
Stella as a character defecates on herself
>>155550158I don't think so.Unless she's in those things 24/7.
>be sorceror Anon>"accidentally" switch Verosika's cup size with Loona's>they both beat the shit out of you before awkwardly trading bras
>>155550260STELLA! GO TO THE BATHROOM! YOU'RE SHITTING ON YOURSELFNOT YET, IMP FUCKER
>>155550303>be sorceror Anon>"accidentally" switch Octavia's cup size with Stella's>Octavia constantly faceplants from being so top heavy>Stella cries that she's no longer hot while she chokes you to death
>>155547776I like Verosika. I'd ask for more appearances but she'd just become another Blitzo dickrider like all the other characters
>>155549443I like how one anon in that thread stated that the Magician was Gooseworx. Is that actually accurate? Was Jane thinking about going to GLITCH or Goose was trying to push her there? Because if so, then the scene of her fleeing from the Magician and Dragon, who tried to put their own collar on her, is kinda funny in hindsight.
>>155549943I do say that with a bit of exaggeration, but I do think it's a fairly sound throughline for the story for it to happen to her. It would even explain why they had to introduce Andrealphus. He'll definitely be the one that gets the humiliating ending where he gets to act a bumbling incompetent fool in Stolas' job and eventually gets the karma back around on him for playing the Sins like a fiddle.It's kind of a rough spot for Stella in general. You either need something bombastic and crazy, like her dying, that can be incorporated into another character's story (Via). Or she just doesn't do anything the rest of the show because she got what she wanted so she just sits around now.
>>155550433They should introduce a new human character named Anon that sweeps Stella off her feet and shows that if Stolas had only grown a pair, she would've been a peach
>>155550433If Stella is meant to represent someone in Vivzies life she's fucking dead.
>>155550462Fuckin' yumes.
>>155550489This is what Octavia mutters whenever she thinks about Anon being with her mom. She's grown very anti-human since they started seeing eachother
>>155550342Yeah. I've had the thought maybe it's good she diednt appear much more than once.
>>155550575*Doesn'tFucking phone.
>>155550462I honestly think they might do this, but use striker instead
>>155550600>use striker insteadIf they did that, it'd just be used to drag Stella even further through the mud with some "racist who fucks the race they hate" bullshit
I hate striker.
>>155550646>t. Moxxie
>>155550370I'm pretty sure that anon was wrong.We know the Dragon is a Spindlehorse OG and the Scourge, which seems to have been Vivzie's pet story for gossip, either pre-Spindlehorse or a Spindlehorse OG.All we know is whoever it is took Jane to a McDonalds to butter her up and clearly had her on standby for a talent poach.Goose was on good terms with Viv while at the very least Helluva season one was airing and we don't yet have reason to believe that's changedThis brings us to one of two things.We can rule out Erin who didn't do any notable work after Helluva Boss, for the dragon.ORWe can safely assume that whatever the magician was making never left the ground.If I'm being honest, there's probably some autist out there who could figure out the magician and the dragon by diving through IMDbs and old social media posts among other things at this point.But I'm guessing Jane wants to err on the side of caution. Erin became a villain in the eyes of the public because she aired the grievances of people who wanted nothing to do with the drama.
>>155547799 Sounds like in your head is retarded
>>155550631"How dare you fuck an imp">Stella fucks an imp"...Okay I get it."
>>155550785Am I wrong?
>>155550631>some "racist who fucks the race they hate" bullshitA LOT of racists are like that, check bleached and the "never ask a white supremacist what race his wife is". They're hypocrites.
>>155548914>>155549943Well same could be said about most of the cast but yeah, killing character usually hinders any development and in depth dive into it's mind, as a Stellafag I obviously would not want to see her dead and much prefer to see even some development, but be realistic, this is vivzie we are talking about, she couldn't even manage to develop Loona and therefore casted her away for majority of screentime yet you expect anything to come out of "le bad guy(female)"?Disregarding all this,yeah, I definetely like Stella not because she is nearly soo good and just waiting to be redeemed, but because she is so broken that it is intresting to fantasize how you can fix her or at least ger her not the worst end. In that vein she definetely should not die, but to be casted out as Stolas rn, and if vizie was an actual good writer and not fujo hack who hates (straigth)women, there is so much potential for Stellas struggles when she hit rock bottom, if only there was at least some fic about it... Well, all that remains to us is wait and hope somebody could do this because I do not believe into vivzie even one bit.>>155550646I am idifferent to him, he just somehow has even less character than Stella rn
>>155550857>check [PORN] and the "[MEME]"My issue is really that it'd be used to make Stella look worse and Stolas look better. Stolas can't be blamed for destroying his family for imp sex, it's just that good!
>>155550646>>155550651>"CRYPTO-I mean ANON! KILL THAT FUCKER!"
>>155550900Yes if you look at that phenomena it paints a picture. You can swap anything out to make something sound stupid. >My issue is [WHINING]. [SARCASM]!
>>155550656Another reading is that the dragon and the magician aren't two people but rather that the Dragon represents the inner circle and the Magician is other studios trying to poach.We know from Vivzie's own twitter that the group overall met at McDonalds a good bit because she's tweeted herself eating there multiple times. If we can assume there was a "kingdom of the golden arches" nearby, we can assume that it would be "the usual place."
>>155550940There's also blacked porn, Anon. Does that mean every nigger is desperate to rape every white woman? Does that mean every white woman secretly craves bbc? What about sissification porn? Does that mean every man secretly wants to suck cock?
>>155550977>Does that mean every nigger is desperate to rape every white woman?Yeah.
>>155550857>Don't hate 'em just don't want to live around the statistical average
AH I WANNA BUTT FUCK.MOZZIE GEHEJS
>>155551237Close the tab and get back to work, Millie
GET THAT IMP COCKSUCKER
>be sinner anon>with enough time you became a business owner and grow your business enough that the Goetia make up your clientele>meet Stolas and Stella five years before the divorce>they invite you to dinner to discuss an important deal>everything goes well>until you feel talons touching your feet>you are now confident Stolas' wife is playing footsy with you>you play along while discussing the nitty gritty with Stolas>continue refining details of the contract while the talons undo your pants with expert accuracy and begin slowly pumping your shaft with impossible dexterity>dab your sweaty forehead with a hankerchief>"So uh... w-we have a deal?" you squeak out, expending almost all your effort not to cum all over the underside of the table>"Pardon me, I've got a call," Stella says, before leaving to answer her phone>the talons are still pumping your dick>Stolas smirks>"Oh I think we'll be EXTREMELY close business partners, anon... where do I sign?"
>>155551599THEN WHO WAS TALONS?!
>>155550646So do the writers. The instant Norman Reedus stopped doing the voice work, they made him a joke
>>155550370>>155550656The thing with the indie space is that it's filled with autists with 0 sense of optics and IIRC Erin fumbled her presentation of the evidence, which is why it did not get so much reach. That being said, the Magician is likely Dave Capedeville, one of the original writers of the pilot. Maybe he was skinnier back then but he is a brunette and is for sure one of the OGs. He is involved with Far Fetched and The Vampair series. The dragon is tough. I could think of 3 options. I don't think it's Ashley but Daria Cohen (creator of Vampair) is making her pilot and Dave has a role in it. The dragon looks kinda goth and she loves goth shit. If not her, maybe Faustisse or Zeddyzi? The latter works on her series called Ramshackle and she was doing a shit ton of work for the Hazbin pilot. But I'm leaning towards Daria for the time being. I'm not sure if any of these people have a dragon OC they're attached to as a hint. After peeking at Jane's IG, she still follows Dave and has liked comments saying to this day, she hates that the unicorn (her) still craves approval from the witch. It's fucked
>>155550890>picThinking about how Hazbin and Hellavu are shows whose entire humor system is based on bad words, and how the use of a "slur" like faggot would cause the fanbase to freak the fuck out and start crying makes me laugh.
>>155551747Bosco was great as Alastor but I don't like him as Striker. Reedus had a sleazy edge to the voice that I liked.
>>155551769After reading yours. I checked Jane's IMDb (Jane Walker)She worked on Ramshackle's pilot. At least involved to the point of being credited as a character designer.Zeddzyi is also a trans man.I hesitate to call it though. For all we know they could be the foxes.The only other thing Jane worked on at this time was some clean-up work for Catching Up. LS Mark's failed series. Considering this was as late as 2024 and neither gave her anything beyond design or clean up, they sound like they were both her taking a lighter workload while it sounds like the Dragon and Magician's offer was something she didn't take.That said, she left Helluva at S2E7 as her last known credit as lead designer so anyone who has a general time frame for production of season 2, there's your reference point. Unless that wasn't an active credit and was for something she made that got put in there.I refuse to make any active claims on anything definitive and have come to the conclusion that the dragon, magician, and especially Scourge/Gwembly are probably things we aren't and shouldn't find out unless they themselves come out.
>>155552537Disregard that I suck cocks the Scourge was Erin or Ken when you consider the timeline.
>>155552608>Random i suck cocks in a sentenceThis feels familiar but I don't know why anon. I feel like I should know you or not
Wait, they said that S3 is going to have actual nsfw scenes, didnt they?Do you think they'll show him getting fucked?
>>155553117Probably long before we see the girls get fucked thats for sure.
New Icey kino
>>155553180Astro as soon as he lands in vivzie hell
>>155553180This guy gets it
>>155553180Ah! I recognize this guy now. He did a bunch of Chrysalis and Cadance comics. I think he might still be making pony stuff.
>>155553117Did they even bother going back and uncensoring all the dildos and statue genitals from previous episodes to reflect this approach?
>>155553385Who knows, i dont watch this slop, i just want to bang the girls
>>155553385They did, yeah
>>155553135I miss the male gaze.
>>155553561Sorry chud its icky now you're only allowed to ogle other men which is stunning and brave
>>155553452Any statue boobies/coochies? Or just weenies?
>>155553117I think they're just hyping it up a little bit. I bet things will be a bit saucier, like we've seen in the teaser, where we'll have characters grinding up on each other and they may emphasize their crotch area (with clothes on), but I doubt we actually see anything beyond sex under sheets though.>>155553180>>155553246She may have figured out this time. But I'm persistent
I could look at Loona's butt for hours.
>>155544666For once, Satan speaks the truth. >>155544594KeenieEnjoyer, how have you been? >>155544688You don't need to have a human in there for a good reflection. I've already said that season one should have had M&M and Stolas & Stella be mirrored. By the end of season one Moxxie and Millie are married(That's what season one would end on) whilst with Stolas and Stella, their marriage has collapsed and the illusion of a "good" relationship is gone and Stolitz officially starts. >>155546527>It's fine if people don't like the main premise of a show. It's been clear what the core of the show is for literally 6 years now.The romance was there in the pilot yes, but was the subplot, not the main one. Especially over time the subplot became the main plot, yet a bastardization of it. That's why so many call this "show" a fanfiction, and they're correct. I know this show was never going to be for me personally, just that objectively it got worse and worse over time quite quickly. >>155548304>Vivzie seemingly runs a clout based mean girls style shitshow where she orbits things on talents and sycophancyIt's something I do believe about her, she relies too much on others to carry her lack of talent(apart from drawing and animation) and gives no proper credit to them. >>155549109I believe so.
>>155553892Same. I sorted my Loona folders so I can do it more efficiently.
>>155553990Anon, M&M arent built on mutual support, they are completely codependent and clearly built on insecuritySure, there is some love, but its clear they are not bringing each other's best characteristics forward, i think they too would eventually break it off, just on better terms than stolitz
>"... You probably could've talked to your daughter a little more, man."
You know, after the season 3 trailer, I'm actually kinda curious about this Helluva Boss thread. I usually lurk the Hazbin one because angels, but this one seems more male dominated. Though because it's so male dominated, there's a lot of waifuposting. Is that all you guys usually do? Because I would love to hear potential rewrites of the show. I really am fond of my "Roo is an overarching presence" concept but I would understand if this is too overarching.
>>155554048I don't think you will like these threads
>>155554048These are mainly waifus/hmofa threads, but they usually snowball into other topics - as it should be. >Because I would love to hear potential rewrites of the show.Other Anons and I have done it before.
>>155554048We already have a few rewrites, like HIL and BotF, but of course these have a human anon as the MCWe have also discussed how we'd make the show better with what we have, not adding any new characters, by portraying stella in a more favorable light, not turning stolas into an uwu poor widdle boi who didnt do nuffin, expanding on m&m's relationship, having loona and octavia be more than just props for further drama etc
>>155554048>I would love to hear potential rewrites of the show.Well have I got a video for YOU.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X11gRsdqwnc
>>155554084For the time being, I would like to talk of season 3. Boy, I have thoughts on the direction of the show. But I have to say, since a lot of you are straight men, how did you guys get wrapped up in watching Viv's work? I would have thought the typical 4chan guy wouldn't spare her content a glance, at least the ones I've interacted with. >>155554143Love that rewrite. Personally, I always felt like Andre should never have been included in the show. Him being a Machiavellian mastermind feels oddly redundant? Stella would have fit his role better as a spurned wife but nevertheless, I agree that my initial impression of the marriage was that it was based mutual respect before deteriorating. Vassago being the one on the other half of the affair would have been interesting on Stella's part, given that she pays deference to rank and as such, would be more inclined to view an affair with another prince advantageous. I don't think introducing Vassago this late into the narrative was a good idea at all.>>155554154I think the reason why we get so many characters in these shows is because Viv wants to see all of her designs animated by a studio but the issue I have with it is that it's too many characters to juggle that it's just not satisfactory to include them all
>>155553990>It's something I do believe about her, she relies too much on others to carry her lack of talent(apart from drawing and animation) and gives no proper credit to themI've started calling it The Rooster Teeth effect myself. Past a certain point a lot of online indie content creators are presented with a choice. They can keep scaling at a reasonable rate or act like an 80s yuppie trying to prove they made it big by meteorically launching themselves upward.Symptoms include>Lots of expensive celebrity or "nerd cred" voice acting>A large team you completely lack the experience to manage>trying to keep up the "friend group" vibe of online indie creators in a professional office and wobbling on where the difference is split. Causing the workplace to feel like an "in-group" (cast) and an "out-group" (the people who clocked in for their 9-5)>a shit ton of "people sharing horror stories ranging from interns to animation staff to all faucets of crewOne big fucking takeaway from Erin's big thing was that Sam was handling the fucking HR. Do you want an art major handling your healthcare package? I don't.When even the cast are doing shit like "oh I haven't watched but as you all know, Vivzie is a genius." that tells you something about the workplace environment
>>155554028just goes to show that the writers of the show are just terrible
>>155554154I really wouldn't consider HIL to be a rewrite.
>>155554019>Loona always leans on her desk or bends over to pick something up when she asks you for something>it works every time, (you) haven't said no once
>>155554292>I always felt like Andre should never have been included in the show. HimThat's Vassago for me to an extent, he comes off as being shoehorned in(but knowing how Viv "writes" it's not surprising.) > I have with it is that it's too many characters to juggle that it's just not satisfactory to include them allThat's my issue with HH, well one of them, but this isn't a HH thread. >>155554292>"oh I haven't watched but as you all know, Vivzie is a genius." that tells you something about the workplace environmentIt really does and I suspect some of them don't get that well along with Viv or her crew, but that's just speculation on my part.
>>155554292>since a lot of you are straight men, how did you guys get wrapped up in watching Viv's work? I would have thought the typical 4chan guy wouldn't spare her content a glance, at least the ones I've interacted with.The girls caught my eye, i started lurking the threads, i learned about the plot and characters via osmosis, i became invested more into a certain hoot due to the similarity of her family issues to my own and then i just stuck aroundHavent watched a single full episode, i cannot stand the dialogue and brandon's voice irks me something fierce, but i do watch clips from time to time when they pop up in my feed
>>155553990>KeenieEnjoyer, how have you been? Ballin'. But also, not so ballin'. It's an abstract sort of feel.
What if Anon was a cherub?
>>155554453I understand that, happy to hear from you and hope the days ahead stay good and get better for you.
>>155554428I kinda don't get how you would follow along with what's going on? But I'm guessing from the bits you are seeing, you're not about to start watching now>>155554422I think you might have meant to reply to someone else with your last half of the post, anon.
>>155554480>Keenie gets stuck working with Anon, the cherub the size of a human man
>>155554528>I think you might have meant to reply to someone else with your last half of the post, anon.Damn it. Reply was meant for >>155554300
>>155554530Nope, he has to be a midget in this scenario.
>>155554548>CherubAnon keeps eating trash>Keenie can't get him to stop
>currently procrastinating This thread seems a bit chill. I am currently not motivated to work on what I should be doing, due to feeling not the best this past week, but I wouldn't mind making a quick sketch in a good ol fashioned dub roll>If it's something super questionable, like nsfw or the like, I will turn it down. Adding this here because I learned my lesson last time. >>155554543Lol
>>155554528>I kinda don't get how you would follow along with what's going on?Its not that difficult, the main events are plain to see>Fag husband cheats on wife>Fag husband tries to spend a day with daughter, ends up spending it with buttbuddy instead>Fag husband forgets daughter's special day, goes looking for her, but ends up spending the day with buttbuddy while buttbuddy's daughter actually goes looking for his>Fag husband gets kidnapped and ends up with PTSD >Fag husband tries ending fag situationship>Fag husband's buttbuddy gets kidnapped and put on trial>Fag husbands abandons loses everything, daughter and risks dying to save buttbuddy>Fag husband goes full retard and charges at another fag for orchestrating everything, only for daughter to save him, but also tell him to fuck off>Fag husband(now ex) gets depression>Season ends
>>155554586I got a few suggestion, I don't request anything pornographic. >>155554589>situationshipPardon me, but what the hell does that mean?
>>155554671>Pardon me, but what the hell does that mean?I dont really know myself, but have seen the term used by the usual suspects
>>155554671>Pardon me, but what the hell does that mean?As is typical with zoomies it's some convoluted gay bullshit that doesn't really mean anything. Labels for the sake of labels.
>>155554671Go ahead, Mr. Anon>Confused about the term situationship>Old person moment :)A situationship is where 2 people are kinda like in a "will they, won't they" scenario. One person leads on the other. The latter craves a romantic relationship with the former, who simply wants to keep it casual. The latter puts up with whatever the former wants because of how desperate they are for the chance for it to become more. Sometimes, it pays off, I would assume. Situational relationship, I guess. Anyways anon, shoot your shot. What are you in the mood for?
>>155554543Nah, because I wanted to point out that Spindle seems to be having a very similar problem setIt's a giant "parasocial with the audience" contest
>>155554722Nta but if you are taking requests, do you think you could draw anon and octavia kissing?I dont think ive seen a single picture like that yet
>>155554586Rolling, draw Stella happy
>>155554722>Go ahead, Mr. AnonAgent One in a Marine dress uniform, with Agent Two blushing in the background or the two dressed as the main characters from Miami Vice, Female Paimon if you're fine with r63 and living Mayberry dressed as her sinner form. >Old person moment :)Thanks for the explanation, but I'm twenty-seven.
>>155554586Loona eating all of Anon's breffmints
>>155554830>>155554801Forgot to mention guys, in case you get the dub, if you could add references, that would be helpful
>>155554586Anon and Loona sticking Octavia in a giant tire and rolling her down a hill.
>>155554866Dubs take it.
>>155554866Guess we have a winner...
Bee being Mammon-shaped againThis is the last I'll post this kind of thing. I was just amused with the shape for her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syUxQcUxmrM&tm17sFor references its more or less exactly what it sounds like.
>>155554897
>>155554866The digits speak. I'll get started but more Octavia images would be great
>>155554973>more Octavia images would be greatMayberry tutoring Owlet Octavia.
>>155554866>my safe word will be "whiskey"
>>155554973Octavia and anon dancing a slow tango
Loona, my wife
>>155555548
>>155554048Fuck stolas. Total stolas death. Make stella a sympathetic character and re-villainize that homosexual woobie. Reframe all his actions as actively and passive-aggressively abusive (because they are. he manipulated his childhood friend into prostitution while being a serial wife ignorer) and never present him as sympathetic, only as trying to be sympathetic when he doesn't deserve to be. Make the message clear, that actually, blitzo deserves better. Stolas should be an antagonistic and disliked presence until the end. Other characters are written off him, rather than his character being forced into a gay ship.HB improved 200%.
>>155554143its way better if stolas never actually loved stella and only cared about octaviawhich seems to be the casebut vivzieslop and based brandon(tm) neglected that
>>155554897I dig your fat Bee. Much more fitting for the Sin of Gluttony
>>155555796The shape suits her too. She looks like a big ol' honey pot. Queen Bee is actually the episode where I decided to go all in on the Hellaverse stuff. I had watched it up to that point and enjoyed it but I had a lot of fun with her episode so now it's my obsession.
>>155555978A much better fit for her than Mammon. I don't mind Greed being fat, but Gluttony should be fat (more often fatter).With the benefit of hindsight, I think Viv could've played around with both Bee's shape and her lava-lamp thing more. Just my idea, but I think when we first see her, she should be skinny and her "lamp" is empty and her colors are dull or even grey. Then the more she consumes as the party goes on, not only does her body get fatter, but her "lamp" starts filling up until she's bright and colorful. Could even alter her personality: in skinny form she's cranky, selfish, and kind of a bitch, while in fat form she's bubbly, generous, and friendly.
>>155556124I think the personality change should be reversed, so the fatter she gets, the worse she gets.
>>155556124>>155556247My first time watching Bee I did get the impression there was a sinister undertone to her bubbly attitude. For example, I thought her wanting to kick Blitz out was just because she was pissed she lost to him at her drinking game. That there was more to even the "good" Sins tha meets the eye. Not sure if that was their intent with her or not, but it seems pretty clear she's just going to be a generally "good" character at this point.
>>155553180Loona should eat more
>>155556399why does she have to be super obese? is chubby and plump not enough for you?
>>155554897>>155555796Monobutt is cute when it's not exaggerated, but show me some REAL fat bee ass. Give me cheeks or give me death!
>>155556424Go big or go hungry
>>155556424The fatfag is the premier example of sexual paraphilia being mental illness and unacceptable
>>155556424>is chubby and plump not enough for you?Legitimately no. I love all types of fat girls, from slighty chubby to comically fetishistic levels of fat, but it's always the same insatiable problem... I want girls to get bigger.See I'm not even one of those fatfags that find it impossible to view non-fat girls as hot (honestly it is bizzare there are people like that). I actually do really like stick, thick, and even muscular girls. I am an enjoyer of many body types. The problem is I can't stop from eventually imagining them getting fatter and fatter.
>>155556399>Dates Anon for 6 months>>155556431I mean, that's my general go to. I don't post those kind of fats here. Those draws are more "toony" and show accurate in a sense. So I'll push the boundaries with posting it. But for full on fetish slop, I'm not so silly as to not realize this isn't the place for that. But I do have this Bee at least
>>155556424She's a species of demon created by and aligned with gluttony, it's hardwired into her very being. Not only that but she eats like she's a heavy duty garbage truck, and does nothing but sit around all day on her phone 90% of the time.It's a plot armor miracle that she isnt a fat slob at this point.
>>155556488Thank you for the Grade A All-Natural Homemade Honey Buns Astro. They're delicious.
>>155556488Oh btw, you should post more on /trash/ or /aco/ then, unless you already do and i've never noticed.
>>155556474> >>155556343While I'm fine with Bee being considering one of the nicer Sins, her having no sinister undertones is yet another missed opportunity. When she isn't partying or her body is thin and she lost her fat, she should be jaded, a push-off and hint that she hates parties and maybe herself.
>>155556399Braphog build aside, I do like how fluffy the artist made her. Winter coat Loona is a cute concept
>>155556539Being into BBW furries is a downwards spiral man, I'd recommend you never get caught in it. It starts with liking shit like Trinity-Fate and then the next thing you know you're gooing to blobs
>>155556525I do go to /trash/ on occasion still. Honestly, it's a little too Hazbin focused to keep much of my attention but I'll peek into the thread on occasion.
Yeah I'm chalking this all up to a Category 3 Bronson Breach. Somebody put that old man back in containment!
>>155556570Well, I was never a fatfag, I'm more into lewd stuff like faces, legs and handholding.
>>155556573There are frankly other threads besides the Hazbin one (which over the many years has fallen off). You could always post in the semi-regular occuring threads that are focused on fat female furries, though I can't say you'll get much engagement most of the time given that half the time it's just a dumpfest full of oversensitive autists (shocker).
>>155556573I used to lurk in there years ago.....don't go in there. Just don't.
>>155556247That would work too.>>155556343>My first time watching Bee I did get the impression there was a sinister undertone to her bubbly attitude.Same, actually, though my hunch was much different: I thought she was encouraging people to eat because she was planning to eat everyone (or almost everyone) there and was fattening them up as much as she could.
I am tired and I don't think I will finish this tonight. Tbh, I kinda rushed it. Anon and Loona are missing but for the time being, I will show off what was made. It for sure needs way more refinement. Idk
>>155556679Show it, I'm sure it'll be nice.
>>155556691https://litter.catbox.moe/sq2qaik5xkx9s9nj.jpegBecause I wanted to make it up to anon, I decided to color it real quick instead of showing off the original grey scale. Though I'm not sure if keeping it greyscale would be an improvement at this point. I'll probably renege on keeping it colored but yeah, it's pretty unfinished.
>>155556753This is very adorable. >I kinda rushed itThis was rushed, impressive.
>>155551599AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH YOU BASTARD AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>155553427Based based based
>>155556811It ain't my best work anon. If I spend more hours on it, I could have made it more nicely rendered. I don't know when I'll be able to come back to it in the future but I hope it was satisfactory. Octavia was kinda a challenge, her birbness tripped me up a bit. I'm not really a "furry" artist so drawing anthros is usually tricky for me. It's good practice nonetheless, which is why I like doing the odd dub roll.
This picture makes me smile a lot.
I wonder how she would act with someone she's close and intimate with
>>155556753Nice
>>155557924octavia (and loona) seek reassurance that she's worth something when intimate
Just had surgery and every guy im in the room with seems to have a gf visiting themFeels great...
>what if shitzo just fucking died
>>155559995>If you kill the imp, the imp fucking diesNo way.
>>155559995as a sinner, I would commit imp genocide because blitzo.
>Loona is extremely cautious around water>explains its hell on fur, but she won't even get near a pool>one day when you're walking her home, a truck speeds by and splashes her with a puddle>you get splashed too>you wipe your eyes>and see a male hellhound in Loona's place, awkwardly filling out her clothes>"Loona...?">"Fuuuck... see?! This is why I don't wanna get fucking wet!">"It's just like one of my japanese animes..."
>>155560479
>>155560571
>>155560583Do you now?
>>155560479>Not shielding Loona with your own body Ngmi
>>155560479YAPPAPPA YAPPAPPA II-SHAN-TEN
Loonie in her jammies
>>155560479Why are Loonaniggers so gay? Is it just the price of being a dogfucker?
>>155561810There's been genderbent Stellaposting too
>>155561835I think his name is Stolas and he's, unfortunately, canon
>>155554048Well since you asked I definetely can share mine, not very polished but here it goes.Also the longer I think, the more I see Stella a a much more intresting counterpart to Blitzo. With Stolas main driving force (at least in pilot) was his boredom which is somewhat intresting yet even there was not properly explored and later replaced by the lamest faggot drama I've ever seen. With Stella you can go same "craving for power and control for your life" as Blitzo where Blitzo is restricted by his powerty and being an imp while Stella, being most probably come kind of trophey wife is just a fly in endless web of Goetia, Sins and Overlords politics, constantly entangled in their machinations and schemes (which we also see almost none in actual show, very sad). And from there while Blitzo is almost unrestricted in his actions, yet constantly in the survival mode, Stella would have pretty decent material stability, but almost no agenda at all except for her "be a wife to one of the most powerful Goetias in hell and produce an offspring", making them seeking best parts of each other lifes, not realising downsides and hurdles of said lifestyles. 1/2
>knock on the door to owl manor>stella opens up, fuck you want?>i want sex>okay get in>we have sex>octavia walks in, asks what all that noise is>fuck her as well>stolas walks in, asks what all that noise is>tell him to turn himself female>he does so and we fuck
>>155561885As for an actual plot while premise with Blitzo stealing Stolas books would remain the same, but instead of Stolas trapping him in fuckbuddies relationship, he just would not care, being in one of his boredom depressions and allowing Blitzo to easily steal it and use, forcing Stella to take the matter in her own claws so that "no shame would fall upon them"(very very important, she doesnt want to be laughed at teaparties and receptions). But also because of this fear of public humiliation Stella would be forced to covert actions while trying to find and take Grimoire, leading to "Tom and Jerry"esque shenanigans between her and Imps. And somewhere along this chase both Stella and Blitzo would learn more about other side of life and as saying goes "maybe the real treasure were hellborns we almost killed along the way", leading them to shakily compromise where they will be used as secret weapons in Stella's intrigues and be allowed to from time to time use Grimoire for their kills (ofc with some Stella screening of how risky it is, not like now when everybody and their grandmother travels to Earth without any repercussions). Now that I thougth about it, there also would be a great parallel about both Blitzo and Stella being shitty parents to their daugthers, but with Blitzo going into overbearing "helicoprter mom" role and Stella becoming more and more distant from Octavia because of their big differences in interests and personalities.Also would be much better if instead of simply "twitter speak" hell aristocracy had an actual etiquete forcing Stella to conrol her speach in presence of her peers, and we know what a foul-mouthed bird she is.2/2>>155554292Nah, Andre being at least someone else close to Stella besides her husband and child is actually good, sadly we didn't see any of other siblings, parents or at least any previous Andre-Stella interactions.
>>155561849Har har
>>155561835Nah, don't group me with Loonafags, it is quite intresting to see male redisgns of Stella or theoreticize about how that would change her character and such, but I definetely do not think and write my fantasies about buttsex (ugh, how unhygeinic) and such with male Stella
>>155562027>Nah, don't group me with LoonafagsNo I'm definitely grouping you in with Loonafags, as well as Moxxiefags, Milliefags, and every other fag in this godforsaken "fan" base. You're in the hell pit with the rest of 'em, bucko.
>>155562047>You HAVE to accept my cocksucking and shiteating if you want to like the bird! Dem is da roolz!
>>155561810It's just the one Loonigger, actually.
>>155562088Not what was said, fag.
Stella chucking a brick at your head.
Stella chucking a brick at your head with a love note attached to it.
>>155562047It was loonaFAG as in FAGGOT, pederast, raging homosexual, not as in a fan, not all loonafags are loonaFAGS
>>155562151Parrying the brick toward Mammon's face.
>>155562118I know, it's called an implication. You'll learn about it when you're a little older.
>>155562172On the other hand you're definitely a stellaNIGGER
>>155562194The word you're looking for is hallucination.
Can a human impregnate a demonic bird?
>>155562243If Heaven warns against having children with angels then you can bet your ass that it's possible.
>>155544288Yeah, it's kinda strange, the pilot made Helluva boss look like it was gonna be a comedy about devil hitmen, being in hilarious antics and shenanigans for being dumb, but effective at their job, but then everything became a tumblr gay soap opera.I remember having high hopes because I knew the creator when she was just a deviantart artist, but everything felt flat for me in the end.
>>155562243I hope so. Stella's been obliterating my pelvis every night trying and I won't be able to walk if she doesn't get knocked up soon
The way things are going I don't think Stella will die but I do think Viv is planning to either humiliate her or character assassinate her somehow. She does appeal to her fanbase way too much and StellaxBarbie seems schlocky enough for her to go through with it. I just don't know what Stellafags will do if that happens and their wife dykes out.
>Knew this show will be shit in 2019-2020>Got called a faggot>Refused to watch a single episode >Be 2026>Still refusing to watch it >The show lost the plot and it's just yaoi metadrama >Retards are defending it, stating it's the main plot point anyway >Also lots of latinx pandering it as well
>>155562174Bee...
>>155562292I can't help but feel like Viv caught wind of what Villainous was doing when it was being worked on throughout the 2010s and realized she was copying an all-ages cartoon being made south of the border. And when she told her little friends about this, Brandon and Adam began rubbing their hands together cuz they now had a chance to play into Viv's fujo fetish to make their own vision for Helluva a reality.
>>155562319loona is the single most popular character with straight white malesshe instantly made her go after a black guy and we were totally unaffected so she had her kill a white guy and we were still totally unaffectedyou'd be a fool if you didn't think she wasn't going to fuck up loona first and foremost and save ruining stella for later
>>155562319Just do what I do when they randomly declared Velvette a dyke: Ignore it. It's not that hard.Funny thing is even Viv herself has said she doesn't care if you ship her characters with someone outside their sexual preferences in the show. It's only Twitter activists who complain about "lesbian erasure" and other made up shit like that. Alastor is asexual and he's the biggest bicycle in the entire fandom.
Sinsmas would’ve hit harder if Octavia mentioned Stolas sacrificing himself for the homewrecker right in front of her. He really doesn’t deserve her forgiveness.
>>155563660I don't even understand what Octavia's reltionship with Stella is likeLike she comforts her when they thought Stolas was gonna get chopped, granted Stella was smiling the whole time
>>155562319Why would somebody care about shitty vivziepop writing? She is an artist, she makes pretty good designs and I care about them, everything else is better left for other people.
>>155563713Even if Stella was doing it to be manipulative(I choose to ignore the Grinch grin, just a dumb choice on Viv's part), the fact that Octavia seeks out her mother's comfort implies that they might have an okay relationship. You would think that, to make Stella look worse, they would make Stella the strict parent obsessed with public image and etiquette while Stolas is the fun dad who tells Octavia to follow her dreams.
Belphegor is apparently getting a fully voiced role in the second half of season 3 and will have a song to accompany it.
>>155563967Hope she's got a hot voice and sings a lullaby
We need more mother daughter bonding moments
>>155564103True...
>>155563373>Anon gets to kiss this snout every night
>>155544217i mean its clear the show entire focus is on blitzi life and we can't get shit at least we will more dynamics between IMP something that has been lacking since s1 and s2but yeah the "romance" angst is shit viv cannot help herself
How rich niggas look at you when you tell them you're banging their daughter
>>155564103
What if Stella and Octavia actually have a great relationship and that's why we never see it?
>>155564652We got confirmation that stella does actually love octavia, she just sometimes overlooks her in favor of hating her dad
>>155563793Via didn't even particularly seek out Stella in Mastermind. She was even animated to take a step back away to try and get around Stella when Stella went in for her hug. But at that point, she was kind of desperate for any comfort from anyone and that person just so happened to be Stella.
>>155544217>Any of you even planning on watching it when it comes out in around a month?My dude I stopped watching after this bullshit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1b7uCyONb0&t=1sI'm NOT coming back to this TRAINWRECK of a SHITSHOW.
Have we still not gotten any new botf chapters?
There's been a steep decline in thread oc. That drawing of Octavia in a tire was like the only oc I can even recall lately.
>>155565419Uh, I can write something, if ya want
>>155565427You don't need my permission.
>>155565419I have a drawing planned as soon as I get out of this brain fog I have.My aunt got arrested for a DUI and it's been absolutely catastrophic.
>>155565457Did she hit anything or was she just pulled over?
>>155565477Pulled over, arrested, lost her job (she's the director of a large rehab), her mega ADHD son has had to stay at my house, and she got baker acted because she keeps drinking and threatening suicide. I'm so tired
>>155565457Oh. Well... shit. Have a Loona in this trying time, and I hope things get better for you somehow. In the meantime try not to let it crush you too hard.
>>155565519Thank you, I'll be fine it's just a waiting game.
>>155559995>helluva boss but without the worse charactersI'd watch it
>>155564689If the Owl Family was written better, we would've had Andre be a lovable but also hateable uncle figure that vies to fill in a paternal role for Octavia against Stolas. For both political and personal reasons. I'd like to headcanon that because he's super gay he doesn't really want to touch a woman and make a child, but still wants a child and heir apparent. Octavia is the easiest option, not just because she's his niece, but also because she has great magical potential (and also the troll Stolas because im just gonna assume Andre and Stolas hate each other no matter what, the same way two pretty girls hate each other for very petty reasons). Andre would be the first to exploit any turmoil between Octavia and Stolas and try to shoehorn himself as being a “better dad”
MSG Anon considers the implications
>>155565794Lel
>>155565794Would let her beak feed me
>>155565794Stella and I do that on the nights she's feeling extra kinky
>>155562171>Stella isn't used to being subtle. especially about showing love.>So when she sends you a love letter.>She at first threw lil rocks at your window to get your attention. >It didn't work.>So she went back to what works best for her, being blunt.>She chucks a brick through your window with a nicely written letter attached. >You want to be mad at her for the damage, but you can't fully blame her. >>155562243Yes, they're compatible. >>155562319Stella isn't going to die, likely be put through worse, like with Octavia. Some suggest they'll make her a lesbian, I doubt that, but they did the same to Mayberry. We've seen Viv won't and can't let her characters die. >>155563518It didn't make sense for Mayberry, just as it didn't make sense for Velvette. It just a label placed upon for cheap commodities.
>>155565794Ayyy, she looks super cute in those panties. I like the lankiness of her figure.
>>155565762Andre could have been a nice political rival to Stolas. Not only jealous of Stolas' power and scholarly attributes, though all Stolas' rivals would see him as a nepo-baby and they wouldn't be entirely wrong, but Andre would also be jealous and a bit mad at his family. Andre never had the chance to have one. So when Andre finds out about his family troubles he exploits it to gain political power over him and to be a good fatherly figure to Octavia. When the affair is revealed he'd no longer be jealous but angry that Stolas for the mistreatment he gave to Octavia and Stella.
>>155565503I'd make a joke about the irony of a rehab director being under the influence if it wasn't the catalyst of what's bearing down on you right now. My sympathies at what you've been dragged into, anon.
Stellabros keep winning
Stolas and Blitzo were on the flight logs.
>>155566160Alastor and Blitzo were on the flight logs, Stolas was the flight steward.
>>155566043Oh no, it'd be funny as hell if I didn't have to deal with the mess
>>155564858But that's the funniest episode
Despite everything, I still wanna fuck Stolas.
>>155566314>
>>155566355>FaggotI mean, yeah. That's the point.>Kill yourselfNot yet.
Well, guess what, it seems we are getting some Stella development, like i doubt she will get a ''did nothing wrong'' development but at least now they show will adress her life was not that easy
Total Stella Victory.
>pilot stolas and S3 stolas if they met
>>155566511I'm still of the belief the only way Stella is gonna be shown any empathy is if they make her gay.
>>155566511>LootyI saw her go semi viral in the fandom over the Stella reveal. Kinda weird to think she's currently in the Hazbin thread next door as we speak>>155565419Do you guys not get many artists?
>>155566116>potentially queerYep, knew it. They just can't hold themselves.
>>155567049It's a bit of a pyrrhic victory for the StellaBros. It gives Stella sympathy and show she's just as much of a victim as Octavia(how Viv will juggle that is "unknown" but it'll mean more retcons...again.) Though it means Stella will get a label. Likely place her as a lesbian, asexual or bisexual. Though the real worrying-ish part is who will they will (attempt) to pair her with.
>>155567248Why would you *want* her to be a victim? So we can get some sad gay story about her banging an imp woman, or how she also had a gay childhood friend she lost?
>>155567266She's a victim of Stolas' neglect and emotional abuse, Anon.
For whoever was looking for Ivy crossover action.
>>155566234Glad you can see the humor in it. Regardless, stay strong. Hope it blows over for you quickly
>>155567500They're about to have a bad time
>>155566116>stolasfags looking at a potential stolitz breakup>stellabros looking at a potential mother-daughter bonding session followed by a forced non-hetero pairing that the fandom will slobber over anywaythe losing streak is over boys
I want a Stella/Octavia/Anon incestous threesome relationship
>>155567033>Self hating gay And that's why she hates Stolas, not because he fucked an imp but because as royalty he can do as he pleases practically without consequence and she's forced to make him look good even though she wants jam clams with her own servants. It would make for an interesting premise if it weren't for the gay angle.
>>155544815don't fight her, feed her obv
>>155567752>
>>155567791sus
Why is he like this?
I just think the way Stolas treats Octavia is fucking deplorable. Like, holy shit, the episode where she is missing in LA and has Loona go find her instead of looking for Octavia herself pissed me the fuck off. That's you, daughter, you dense mother fucker! Not only are you a terrible father, but a liar as well!
>>155568346Yeah, hes shitGood thing she stuck with the parent that actually loves her
>>155567752>>155567791>Stella walks in on you getting handsy with Octavia>tells you if you want your little secret safe...she gets your attention too>better not disappoint, cause otherwise your life is getting smeared with the reputation of a pervert
>>155568450Octavia would never agree to it
>>155566116>an (lgbtfag) ally>stellahuh? is it supposed to be like, supportive of octavia being "asexual"?
>>155568615Considering we had a pride parade of the production teams' OCs, there were at least two goetia tagging along like they had no problem being involved with such guttertrash. So the fact that they're making Stella an ally, at the very least, does not surprise me one bit.
StellaxBarbie stocks are going up slowly.
Birds can't have tits, they're not mammals.
>>155544217She's evil and irredeemable,you're not supposed to feel bad for her
I miss Birnonymous.
>>155566116I'm tired bros
>>155568615EVERYONE has to be a heckin supporter chudyes, even the villainsa character might be a murderer, a cannibal, a rapist, or all three at the same time but homphobes are just too evil
Bee but she's neckmogging Belphegor
>>155571012Now do Bee but if she were a good character
>>155571012Makes me imagine her wrapping someone up with her neck like a snake.
>>155571324And strangling them.
I want to adopt this cute puppy
>>155568346Yeah...the writers were not doing him any favors on that episode...
>>155565794I want Octavia to barf feed me.
>>155570512as long as I can bang octavia and stella, then the show can go whatever direction it wants
>>155571334Or cuddle them
>>155566116Lmao, on one habd that would be another trash writing I despise, on the other hand it so funny if true, they truly cannot help themselves and continue making everyone queer in Hell with cannibals and rapists, reinforcing that faggots truly deserve everything and more.>>155567248Anyone who expected anything different must be delusional, in faggot hell worst crime is being straigth with disabilities, so anyone who "redempts" i.e. will recieve some development besides cartoonish evil must become another fag and never ever ever have ANYTHING against faggotry in any form.
>>155544217Vivziepop is a fat obese fujo who doesn't actually understand character design, compelling drama, romance, action, or comedy. She's a trifecta of no talent trying to be taken seriously & Amazon's more than willing to shell out merch to autistic losers who actually watch & somehow like her show.
>>155566116Ha! She DOES love her!
>>155573362counterpoint:
>>155573829Countercounterpoint is Vivzie just drew a scene wolf girl like she's always been wont to draw but made it goth. Broken clocks as well.
>>155573873Why yes, I do not care because Loona is cute, how could you tell?
>>155573973And I agree but still good to know it is just another generic Vivzie design in the same vein as skinny smiling twink.
>>155573304
>>155571023But I've already done that: >>155554897>>155555796
>>155574909Why don't you draw Bee as Greed?
>>155574909I wanna eat Belle's pussy while she naps
>>155570512
>>155545470>It was a big part of western fujo stereotypes, the inability to admit they get off to itThey still do this but nowadays hide behind queer labels
Imagine a tender moment between Stella and Octavia when she's younger.
>>155566116>Potentially queerThat's not the word I would use for a woman who's happy to bring other women into the bedroom with her and her human boyfriend.
>>155576228If you have to bring other people into your relationship you don't love your girl that much
>>155576252NO! IT'S NORMAL AND GOOD AND NOT DEGENERATE! BUT SHE'S NOT ALLOWED TO FUCK OTHER GUYS THOUGH!
Hanging out with Stella and Octavia, how does it go?
>>155576626You will be left carrying their bags at the mall. There will be no limit of bags because they are rich and Andre's card has no spending limit.
>>155576234Okay, I'm just gonna say what we're all thinking: What we're all thinking.
>>155576252>>155576345I would say it's about the same level of sense as wanting to bang a fictional bird woman
>>155576252>not wanting the mutual sadistic pleasure of using another woman like a toy with your girl
>>155577935I would say it's NOT the same as level of sense as wanting to bang a fictional bird woman
Cheating is okay if your partner says yes :)
>>155577968I'm content to pour all my love into my girl and bang her senseless until I put a baby in her or pass out trying. That's why she's my girl.
>>155571402What if you adopted her and then her biological parents came to take her away and then you had to fight a 7'6 devil dog barehanded?
>>155577968My dick is only for a woman that loves me. It's why I'm still a virgin at 33
>>155578086>Skittles
>>155568346Seeing Stars is the exact moment I truly joined the Stolas hate club
Stolas helping the closeted homophobe Anon come out of the closet... is what Viv would write if she wrote an Anon story.
>>155578208Would viv even come to 4chan? real question by the way
>>155578221It would be extremely funny if she did.
>>155571012This is by far your weirdest/silliest fetish lol. Especially when you pair it with the fat stuff. At least be a chad and draw a fat Brachiosaurus once Astro, BBW dinosaur goons are a valid market
>>155578086cannot believe moxie is so nice to rise the incestuous baby that Millie did with her "sister"
>>155578364You're weird
>>155578014I'll blow a dog whistle and tell them they're bad pups
>>155578528That's a hate crime
>>155578086Monogamy is the only way. If you want it any other way than that, look at Blitzo. >>155578145>>>155576626Stella would likely take you around shopping, showing you off to other goetians, maybe a ball if there is one. Then the day would end the same way it started, with cuddles. With Octavia she would take you sight seeing, antiquing for stuffed animals, when it gets dark - stargazing. And much like her mother the night ends the same way morning begins. >>155576662>Stella and Octavia finally have some bonding, they drag you and Andre with them. Him as the piggy bank, you as the mule.
>>155545785That reminds me, I once knew a girl who was a friend of my sister who genuinely thought Heated Rivalry was some deeply researched intellectual masterpiece. She was obsessed with her own intelligence and absolutely convinced she was smarter than everyone around herself, and HR was enough to match her.She also hated virtually every female character she came across. She especially despised the Rose character, laughing at her for being a “pathetic little lonely beard.” She pulled essentially the same routine with one of the women in another work, one of the chicks a guy in the main and popular gay ship slept with. And it wasn’t just fictional women. There was a very obvious pattern of contempt toward women in general. She seemed to have constructed this bizarre hierarchy in her head where she and gay men were inherently more intelligent and interesting than other women.She was insufferable. My sister got sick of her shit and called her out, so she ended the friendship because she was “too emotional to keep up with her intellectually”. My sister never touched HR and now hates discussing it. I don’t blame her.
>>155578694>Stella and Octavia cluck like hens the whole time>Andre keeps making faggy little remarks>You'd kick his ass if you didn't have to lug around over 50 pounds worth of overpriced crap
