Finally, a good Netflix movie.https://youtu.be/VL-xjzQFWsY?is=9hF9aLLgn8V1piHC
KINO
Sneaker Pimps - 6 Underground btw
I see it's still rated PG. I'm a little disappointed, was hoping at least PG 13 just to allow a little extra edge to it all, but the trailer didn't seem too kiddified either so if that's how they're presenting it I'll appreciate a more 'adult' 3D animated film.
>>155583272>ScarJo's character has a musical numbercan she even sing?
>>155583272I remember reading about thi, Brad Bird you fucking madman you actually got it made.
>>155583272Is this not about that one retarded Aussie breakdancer?
oh neat the purple alien at 1:36 is voiced by Kathryn Hunter
right not to criticize bird's passion project but the art style reminds me of how in the early days of cgi they hadn't quite mastered the art of capturing 2D art styles in 3D so it came out looking weird. but now the tech's gotten better so everyone still looks weird in HD.
>>155583272I thought it was going to be 2d but still pretty coolReally can see The Incredibles in the designs and movements
>>155583656While 2D isn't impossible to finance, it's a lot trickier. You can really only manage a 2D film in Europe thanks to all the cultural grants where they don't expect a return.
>>155583591Yeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEgkBetZY-M
>>155583272Damn shame it's not 2D. but it still looks pretty good.
>>155583272>select theatersIf this isn’t in one within 40 miles of me I’ll never see it I guess. Fuck Netflix.
>>155583272She looks like an Elsa edit
>>155583349A woman like this would keep you caged 24/7
Looks good.
>>155583655What a bizarre thing to say.
Here's the castI'm surprised at how few voice acting roles Tom Waits has done. And two are coming out this year.
>>155584325>Matt BerryFuck this then. Scumbag like him should be blacklisted.
>>155584347What now?
>>155584325>hired his son's soccer coachkek. Must have a real memorable voice.
>>155583272Hmm, I might restart my subscription in December then.
>>155584367He got to fuck Jennifer Coolidge in the Minecraft Movie
>>155583272Day One pirated!
>>155583272>a good Netflix movie.No such thing, along with a straight OP>>155583306You have shit taste>>155584347>>155584388>>loser faggot that'll throw his life away over the prospect of the slightest crumb of pussy
>>155583272Not going to deny this doesn’t look amazing, but I just can’t shake the feeling of “this would’ve looked so much better in 2D”. Like, actual 2D, not whatever fake nonsense Spider-Verse did.
>>155583272I love the mix between art deco with super futuristic aesthetic, but I am not a fan of the (human) character designs. They look like some cheap ad made with ai
>>155583656>>155583850>>155583936>>155584783We legitimately can't make 2D animated films anymore, especially traditional hand-drawn. No one is able to do it anymore. The most you can hope for are rigs and no one would even think about funding a movie with fucking rigs, it looks too cheap.
>>155584783The humans look bad to me, like they are half between stylized and Polar Express.
>>155584794>They look like some cheap ad made with aiyou're mentally raped
>>155584783>but I just can’t shake the feeling of “this would’ve looked so much better in 2D”The problem is that this is almost always true. Even the best-looking 3D films achieve such acclaim by attempting to emulate 2D styles/shading/movement. How many times do we see the 2D concept art for Disney/Dreamworks films and it looks a bajillion times better than the final product?The issue is that it's just a dead medium. Not enough studios exist that can do it compoetently and consistently. If you choose to make a 2D animated film in current year, you're shooting yourself in the foot from the get-go, which is why nobody chooses it anymore.
>>155583272Wait...this isn't a GOAT-esque movie about a female kangaroo's journey to compete on an Olympic breakdancing team? Pass.
No one does 2D hand drawn anymore except Korean studios doing it for anime. Aside from being cheap Korean studios, they're trained for an entirely different style. Even if you had unlimited funds to build a studio and the supply chain from the ground up (because there are none anymore in the West they were all killed off), no one knows how to do it. All the masters who knew before didn't train anyone to come after them because there was no future to train them for. You should just accept we will never get any more 2D animated films.
Here are some of the concept art from the 90s when bird tried making this film for the first time
>>155584325>Matt Berry is in itI will watch your movie
>>155583272The characters look kind of weird, like the humans' eyes are just 15% too big and the creatures look like they were plucked out of Monsters vs. Aliens. Story also looks like something that could've just been a live action movie but hopefully they're hiding the more fun parts.
>>155584783I don't know I like the style
>>155584025It won’t be, this shit is getting a bare minimum run because they hate me and you.
what's with the Monster Inc rejects?
>>155585117They kinda look like 3d Version of Iron Giant characters, if that makes sense
>>155585251I question what a "modern" environment design Art Deco cityscape would do differently here
>>155585251>it just seems 10 steps behind the aesthetic conversation every other art team is havingyeah because modern movies look so good, what a moron
>>155585239We aren't getting anything cg that doesn't look unsettling these days. Even though everyone's gargling Laika's balls, Wildwood's human models look like shit, with big bags under thier eyes regardless of age, and the mc's little brother is just a torso with nubs for legs. The animals look decent, though.
>>155585296Yeah I feel it's more Bird having a specific style ala Miyazaki than looking dated.Sure I could say that later Ghibli stuff looks like 80's/90's anime but that's really just the house style. If you don't like it fair enough but I wouldn't say it's out of touch
>>155583272If you've ever read or watched any noir story, this is nothing new. Sure it's animated nice but the alien designs suck & again the story is not breaking any sort of new ground creatively.
>>155585508well said Grok
>>155584438>>155584484unf
2010 Dreamworks animation.The environments look boringThis is gonna suck
>>155583272Here's the 90s concept art from when he tried to make this beforeWhere did this vision go?
>>155583272>spy slop mixed with sci fi slop but people will like it because they made the character looks like actual people and not disney style slop
>>155584783yeah this should've been 2D, the character designs didn't make the leap to 3D at all.
How does Ray (the character) look so old and young at the same time
>>155583272>aliens look like shit>humans look like typical prissy lollipopsNaw I'm good dawg
>>155586111Eyes are too big like >>155585117 mentioned. Makes him look 30 and 50 at the same time
>>155586226I do wonder how much of this is us being so used to “Pixar style” being ripped off poorly by TV commercials and AI slop over the years that this appears worse even though that’s just how Brad Bird always designs people.
>>155583656>>155583850>>155583936https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/paramount-sale-shari-redstone-skydance-upset-1235917956/>Meanwhile, there are the questions swirling in the animation community about the absence of Lasseter, the former creative head of Pixar and Walt Disney Animation Studios. While Skydance Animation has been touted as an attractive element of a potential Skydance-Paramount hookup (though Paramount has its own animation division, with IP like SpongeBob SquarePants), but in reality, the picture has been complicated. Luck, Skydance Animation’s first feature film under Lasseter, got middling reviews upon its release on AppleTV+ in 2022, though it has performed steadily on the streaming service. (The film had been started before Lasseter was hired but was expensively reworked once he arrived.) Sources say the relationship between Skydance Animation and Apple blew up when the tech giant concluded that other planned projects were too costly and not strong enough creatively. One sticking point was a planned hand-drawn film, Ray Gunn, from Incredibles director Brad Bird for a number exceeding $150 million.$150 million is a drop in a bucket for apple and it's a 2d animated film by brad bird. i don't get it.
>>155583272looks kino as expected, hope I can get it in the theater >>155583341noice, really takes me back
>>155583272https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a73774193/ray-gunn-brad-bird/>Brad Bird knew Ray Gunn would draw its power from a fusion reaction: The animated adventure from the Incredibles and Iron Giant filmmaker is a detective-noir mystery that unfolds in the shadows of a sunny science-fiction utopia. He became obsessed with bringing two disparate genres into one story, with old-school private eyes, gangsters, and femme fatales clashing in a glossy world of aliens and space-age technology. It's very strange that he seems to sincerely believe combining pulpy detective stories with sci-fi is a groundbreaking idea, enough so to be the main pitch of the film.
>>155585251>10 steps behind the aesthetic conversation every other art team is having nowCopy Spider-Verse?
>>155584867They look like Megamind humans
>>155586778I think if this came out in the 90s, like when Dark City or Gattaca did, I think this would be well remembered, but today it does feel like a weird oddity
>>155583272ray better have a motion capped dance scene or else it's a waste of rockwell
Honestly this looks like a 2000s Dreamworks movie with modern technology. Visually it looks like a more polished Megamind or MvA.
>>155585379Wildwood is stop motion
this is what should happen in ray gunn to give it a pg-13 rating but won't
>>155585379Ah.
>>155583583They at least seem to playing it straight. Which is appreciated. Some glib remarks in there but very dry.
>>155586604It's whether it will make a profit for the money it'll cost. They'd rather pay twice that and have it be 3D to raise its chances.We really need a millionaire like that Nike guy who funds the Laika films but for 2D animation.
>>155588303Yes, that was the most welcome part of watching it. I was waiting for the "twist" and so happy it never came.
>>155588271yeah this design looks way better in 2D
>>155583272Looks cool
>>155587384Yeah I totally see the Megamind comparison.
>>155583272>'Already Spoiled the Whole Fucking Movie During the Trailer' Award
>>155587389Noted. Still, fucking hideous human designs
>>155585251I fucking hate that I have to agree with this faggot on the movie looking bland and "dated" but not for the same reasons he is thinking of.
>>155585251The film looks far better in motion than in still. It's mostly his male designs looking a bit off when in 3D.
>>155583272This actually looks fucking great.
this is what the brunette woman from the ray gunn trailer should be wearing in the film but won't
>>155588237they were on a mission to boil down an interesting character design >>155586604 into the least memorable white guy possible and by god did they succeed
>>155583655>it’s not the millennial bean mouth I’m used to so I hate it
>>155585251Faggot is right about the 2005 feel but he proposes no solutions to make it feel modern and I have a big feeling what he wants is >>155586790
Dear Ridley ScottPlease fix Blade RunnerSeeing as The Truman Show fans ruined it by starting shit..
>>155589188The problem is that it has a mix mash on what's realistic and whats stylizedA bit to blocky to be realistic but the hair is a bit to real I kinda like it in the strangeness is a pleasing way but hey
>>155585251>shocking how much this looks like a movie that was shelved in 2005>it's.... it's not 5fps????? or the same five fucking anime????? AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SAVE ME SPIDERMAN
>>155588365>>155586604Netflix seem to have a lot of confidence in it, sounds a lot like they they think they've another Golden on their hands with the song. Swapped was a big hit for them and Skydance are now moving back to theatrical films. Not sure this will have universal appeal like Demon Hunters did though, going to be very male skewed.Hopefully we'll get some art of Eddie and the Beanstalk soon.
it looks like that CG Astro Boy movie from the mid 2000s
>>155589144>no bush peeking through take your slop somewhere else
>>155585251Reminder: arvalis thought the Lion King remake looked better than the original movie because muh realism
>>155589275Funny you say that I was also reminded of it
>>155585251>aesthetic conversation every art team is having now Lmao western animation has looked like dogshit for almost 30 years now, who gives a fuck about the conversation these faggots are having
>>155584484NTR phenotype
>>155583272>[thing] set in the future>in-universe things say "WELCOME TO THE FUTURE"ngl, that's retarded. they shouldn't make movies for retarded people
>>155584367Involved with the new crappy harry potter tv show. I still love Matt Berry, and I'm glad he's getting a huge payday from that, but it's such a godawful story and this new one doesn't even have Chris Columbus to make it more visually palatable.Speaking of visual palatability, Ray Gunn looks alright. I definitely would've preferred he stick to his guns and get it traditionally animated, but it doesn't look bad for Skydance. A hell of a lot better than that new Illumination crapshoot coming out, Not Alone.
>>155583349When she taking it up the ass
>>155585251Current aesthetic convention is trash, on the level.
>>155585251>THIS RANDOM FAGGOT ON TWITTER HAS AN OPINONthanks for that cocksucker
>>155584857>>155584925>We legitimately can't make 2D animated films anymore>No one does 2D hand drawn anymore
>>155585251>aesthetic conversation every art team is having nowleast obvious art school grifter award
They showed the first seven or so minutes at the Brad Bird SDCC panel this year. Looked pretty good and I'm surprised to see it's rated PG.
can't wait for the art book
>>155593101>I'm surprised to see it's rated PGHow come?
>>155593241how much would it be
>>155588084>>155589144I wish you porn addict freaks would kill yourselves
>>155593101>>155593587Brad Bird has been hyping up about how much more adult the film is than his usual work, which is why it's on streaming instead of a Pixar movie. Though it seems he meant it moreso in the sense that it will have some swears and be more action packed, like Incredibles 2.
>>155593587>How come?It really didn't have anything that would grab the interest of a little kid right off the bat, for one. But it was also more serious with only little bits of generally dry comedy bubbling through.This will sound odd. But I'd compare it to a comedian like Jim Gaffigan. I never realized he was a "clean" comic until someone told me.
At least he’s trying to bring back classic sci fi looks.
>>155593981>>155593587a PG rating has nothing to do with the themes or mood or maturity, only on-screen objectionable matter.if they aren't having sex or having a dude shot in the face in 4k, it's probably going to be PG. You don't get PG 13 anymore.
>GUYS! What if Mike Hammer, but IN SPACE? No, there will be no real science-fiction concepts fueling the story, it's all just window dressing for a noir detective pastiche. Yes, I am aware Philip Marlowe is a better reference, but it doesn't fit the naming convention.It's not that I don't appreciate a e s t h e t i c s, but I remain unexcited.
>>155583272No 2D, no watch.
>>155593729probably $50 like the swapped artbook
boomers: hell yeah, brotherzoomers: wtf it's not spider-verse animation style??
>>155588237Call me crazy but he looks perfect for Ryan Reynolds
>>155594164why do you guys think 3d animators are any less of an animator than 2d animatorslike these people sculpt every frame of this animation by hand and you don't care? Do you think they just sit in front of a computer and press a button all day? you know 3d animation is closer to stop motion animation than not right
>>155594994>man who has only watched blade runner 2049>getting heavy blade runner 2049 vibes from this
>>155595095It is?
>>155595117yes dude lmaothe 3d models are essentially the same as in stopmo, there's an armature that controls them that the animators have to pose pretty much every fucking frame and then manually control curves on a graph to make it look smooth and get really intricate shit like blinks and so on. you have to go over it again and again and again. It is extremely difficult work requiring a high amount of skill, it isn't just people fucking around educate yourself:https://youtu.be/l-S7wQx_hvs
>>155595095nta, but I think it just doesn’t look as good.
>>155595095this, nobody in this thread even knows what a uv map or 3dmax is.
>>155585061With 90s Warner money and expertise? God, that would have been real fucking kino.
>>155588271Tripod stance does make him a bit more unique than most ayys.
>>155588254>female characters have to have giant heads!God, I've always hated this shit
>>155594200>>155594186looks like Elaine Benes
>>155594200Wait, she has a lazy eye? Interesting. Will this come up in the story?
>>155589275I dont think you are that far off anon, I thought the same thing and not even as a dig on the movie
>>155585296closest recent example i can think of
>>155585251I don't get what he means by it being "behind the aesthetic conversation." Is it so bad if a movie looks like it was made in 2006? I don't see the problem. I don't subscribe to this idea that modern trends are necessarily better than old trends. Each animated work should be chasing its own aesthetic goals anyway, right?
Do people saying that it would be better in 2D understand that we literally can't make films like that anymore? All the old masters retired. Even with a billion dollar budget you couldn't do it. The skills no longer exist in the workforce.
Brad Bird has excellent taste in women, all his designs are god-tier.
>>155595852It's not so much the skills but the production for a 3D animation is just much more efficient than anything 2D. Even if it's already late in the production cycle you can still do massive changes in lighting and even an entire scene and the 3D team can do it faster. Most people think it's just a "style" without realizing it's technically the logical endpoint of animation production becoming more and more efficient.
>>155595870>Even if it's already late in the production cycle you can still do massive changes in lighting and even an entire scene and the 3D team can do it faster.Lord and Miller why are you on 4chan at this hour?
>>155595852Unpopular opinion but I do love 3D movies. Something about the characters always staying on model by virtue of being 3D assets appeals to some autistic part of my brain.
>>155593751And they should record their suicides so I can jerk off to the video.
