Yesterday marked 15 years since WWM first aired and changed animation. Please, say something nice about it.
>>155638464I like the song, but this really was the nail in the coffin for the hopes of Finn not getting undeservedly cucked
>>155638464This really did mark the end, when everything went to tumblr
AT was always troonslop
>>155638479>>155638482Yeah, anyone who still likes adventure time is gay until proven trans.
>>155638464This was the first episode of Adventure Time I ever watched, I was confused by all the unspoken drama and didn't find the song all that good. Looking back on it now, its clear this episode while harmless on its own was patient zero for what the show eventually became (for better or worse).
>>155638464The day Adventure Time died.
>>155638464My grandma used to say "if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all". So...
>>155638464Nonsense aside, Olivia Olsen really does have a pretty singing voice. She deserves better than stream of conciousnes ukelele shit tho
>>155638464In the long run, AT was a mistake and shit. BUT it is an undeniable fact that it is the most influential and historically important cartoon of its decade.
I liked that they basically recycled the premise of this episode for Obsidian
>>155638464Nothing gay happened in this episode. The gay just gleamed into it and ruined the entire animation industry. Thousands of people have lost their jobs because of what happened.
>>155638464everyone talks about marcy's song but imo Finn's song in the end was the best one! I love the feel-good vibe it has and the mix of heavy bass with chiptune and the violin
>>155638464Mortal Folly and its consequences have been a disaster for the show.
>>155639358thank youit's infuriating that they tried to tell this wonderful story about social crowd differences and people turned into the gayimagine how worthless and loveless their lives must be, if they hear Marceline's frustrated song about wishing the cool girl wouldn't snub her, and think it was a declaration of clam lust.
>>155639358nah it was gay, Rebecca has said that was the intent>inb4 muh historical revisionism
>>155638464>Please, say something nice about it.The notion of Bubblegum and Marceline knowing each other independent of both knowing Finn and it being more complicated than straightfoward hostility is potentially interesting. But then they just made them gay.
>>155638464It has really nice songs, and I listened to it every day when I was a very young kid.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h28xpNvW9Yw
I don't aim to have a beef with any of Rebecca's songs- especially seeing that it is one of the aspects that made both AT and SU redeemable.My problem is the lack of emotional cohesion conveying between this and the rest of the episode around it. The pacing goes:>[spoilers] We gotta get that guy before he gets away!!! [/spoilers]>[spoilers] There's an obstacle that requires us to sing. Does anyone know the song goes? [/spoilers]>[spoilers] Well, let's try... [/spoilers]>[spoilers] Ugh, we're so close this is so HAAAARRRRDDDduh [/spoilers]>[spoilers] DIS' SIOUX everyone's gone and now I'm gone... Peace *flashes V- sign then disappears* [/spoilers]>[spoilers] Bu-buh... Guys... [/spoilers]>[spoilers] Fine.. we're convinced. One more time... [/spoilers]>[spoilers] The gang's back together!!! LET'S ROCK!!! [/spoilers]>[spoilers] *the song* [/spoilers]>[spoilers] obstacle disappears [/spoilers]>[spoilers] catches thief [/spoilers]>[spoilers] thief charades since he can't talk [/spoilers]>[spoilers] life lesson speech [/spoilers]>[spoilers] thief cheers that they learned something [/spoilers]>[spoilers] thief gets beat up [/spoilers]>[spoilers] things recollected [/spoilers]>[spoilers] confusion whilst getting things [/spoilers]>[spoilers] IMAKILLYOUUUU!!!! [/spoilers]>[spoilers] the rest laughs whilst running away [/spoilers]>the endtl;dr- it's all mood swings.I get that the show's is also about being zany and unusual- it's the direction that made the episode, as a whole, feel like a slog as opposed to that song by itself.I wouldn't declare that the song "changed animation" but it is the ONLY reason why I chose to watch the episode. And I would rather not bring up whole love triangle bullshit seeing that this is the only thing the dime-a-dozen shipperfag would bring up concerning episodes like this...
>>155641777Ugh.. screw it...Note to self: Greentexts and spoilers don't mix.
>>155640399This. If I had a penny for every time since the early 2010s I'd been enjoying a piece of media, only for it to throw out all nuance and bash the audience over the head with>TIME TO MAKE THE SUBTEXT OBVIOUS>JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T GET ITand cause me to roll my eyes and immediately downgrade my opinion of it I'd have a LOT of pennies. Why is this shit so common in writing now?
>>155638464Why does this episode cause such a strong negative reaction to some people?
>>155641777>you're supposed to spoiler the carrot
>>155638501>>155638532Kys, subhuman
>>155642935Dykes
>>155642935Some anons project themselves into Finn and felt betrayed the moment Princess Bubblegum starting dating Marceline.
>>155643112Nice fanfic
>>155642935This was the moment Adventure Time began switching away from "Finn is a badass hero man who does badass hero things" to "Retarded gay drama from people who hate heroes and badass things"This is how we got a finale where Finn did literally nothing at all except telling Jake to throw a bottle
>>155643206Perhaps it was all blew out of proportion.
>>155638464Im fine with marceline and bubblegum being exes but they should've stayed separated and marceline owed finn sex>>155638766Correct on both accounts. Id go as far to say that the cancerous aspects of AT is what lead to the animation industry dying as a whole too. Pic fucking related
>>155643270>Im fine with marceline and bubblegum being exesYou are part of the problem
>>155643262All what? The episode? No, this was definitely the start. Bubbline was a fucking cancer that took over the show and made literally everything about them. Adventure Time? Bubbline. Distant lands? Bubbline. Fionna and Cake? You better believe they'll have bubbline. Bubbline comics bubbline episodes bubbline episodes, just bubbline bubbline bubblineMay this episode that started it all rot in hell where it belongs
>>155643270>marceline owed finn sexqrd?
>>155643276Bubbline spinoffs*
>>155643276Nta, but if bubbline has so many spinoffs, it must sell well. The audience must like it.
>>155643288Only retarded brain dead tumblr cunts like bubbline shit, and they are the only audience for assventure time left anymore
>>155643273>You are part of the problemIts not some imperative for me that they be canon exes but to me at the time that wasnt the end of the world. Knowing that they had previously unseen knowledge of one another and were close at one point was fine, but making the whole show about their lesbian rebound was where it became fucking stupid.
>>155643276>All what?The whole show. It is just a cartoon. The responses seem blown out of proportion. Besides, the fans got Side Quests which are all about Finn and Jake.
>>155643312>The whole show. It is just a cartoon. The responses seem blown out of proportion. Speaking from personal experience but adventure time was my literal favorite show at one point so to see it go from the one thing i kept getting excited to come home for to watch being turned into something that despises my own existence and personally insults me then i have every right to be filled with bile and hate towards zombie era adventure time all these years later. The finn/flame princess break up arc is some of the worst content ever put to celluloid and the fact that AT went from fun wacky escapist fantasy adventures into becoming just another reminder of how much life sucks is why i still hope adam muto and the rest die of cancer or end up in a ditch somehow
>>155643326The lore ruined the series. As soon as the writers injected the lore into the series, it was the end.
>>155643340I agree in hindsight but at the time before the lore completely sucked the fun out of the show it was novel and cool. Thats why people cheered the lore on at the time since they didnt realized what a rushed mystery box fucking disappointing mess said lore would all turn out to be.
Am I the only one that legitimately hates both Marceline and Bubblegum not because they're lesbians but because they're legitimately terrible mary sue bitches that get no meaning consequences?Don't get me wrong, I hate dykes, but that's only like the cherry on top of a pile of shit, even if they were straight I'd still hate them because PB is an actual war criminal that not even soi redditors that support the slop of the latest seasons dare to defend and Marceline is your typical tumblr bitch that even before bubblegum proved to have shit taste on men, also remember that when she kidnapped breakfast princess and received zero consequences?They're both just terrible characters that only hurt the series long term
>>155643726>PB is an actual war criminalShe never did those and the one time she nearly went to war it was interrupted
>>155643296Carlos has become a noticer
>>155643726Yeah PB manipulated a small child that had a crush on her to do her bidding while Marceline was always kind of a bitch
>>155643760No
>>155638479It's really not about being cucked, but how they began to treat him (especially Marceline) after they became gay lovers.
>>155643340The Lich was cool thou??
>>155643804Marceline was a cunt since the start
>>155643826yeah but she treated Finn less of a friend and more of a pest after the lesbian shit
>>155643849So nothing changed
>>155643858No, it certainly did. From rough to not giving a shit.
>>155641777>[spoilers]
>finncels still seething after all these yearslol. lmao, even.
>>155643963>create a show for boys>include characters for young men to crush on as kids>tell the kids to fuck off and have the crushes date each other while treating the main character like shit after they hook up>oh and now one of them is blackbro do you defend this writing?
>>155643309Isn't this pic a prime cope example by now?Like when it was first made things were more ambiguous, but it should be clear by now that at least then, what direction things were supposed to be heading.
>>155644366No? They retroactively changed it.
>>155638464Adventure time was a disaster for animation from the start not just when this aried
>>155644375It's not retroactive if there was nothing there to begin with. It's just giving backstory. Like prior to that episode, what did we know about Princess Bubblegum and Marceline? they sort of knew each other and Marceline was fucking with PB by giving Finn bad relationship advice?Doors just made it concrete that they had bad history.
>>155644405Bro the pic was making fun of all the tumblr users pushing for this ship when there was nothing going on between themNo, giving someone bad relationship advice doesn't mean they're a fucking lesbianIf anything pretending like they were always planned to be lesbians is the retroactive takeYou know the term "surprise lesbians" came from this shit right?
>>155644421It was intentionally bad advice purposely given to fuck with PB.I'm not saying the bad advice was evidence of lesbianism, just evidence that Marceline wanted to fuck with PB.And surprise lesbians for this? This was the softest fucking 10 ply soft launch for lesbianism. This was fucking drip fed.
>>155644366>>155644405Nah they still arent meant for each other, the fact that they lobotomized marcy and PB to be lesbian darlings doesnt invalidate that image either
Why do middle aged unmarried jewish hags with mommy issues always ruin shit?
nah breezy was the true cancer
>>155644442Not enough dick in their lives. But i could fix that
>>155644449Id say frost and fire was where the show really went to shit. At least in "what was missing" it wasnt trying to get PB and marcy back together again, it was simply about the two reconciling after being bitchy exes to each other. Also marceline is in one of her hottest outfits in this episode too.
>>155643296White women ruin literally everything
>>155640399They couldn't even keep the dynamic that made the paring popular in the first place. Even if I did like Bubbline, I'd still hate the direction the writers took it in because all they did was stand around holding hands and blushing at each other.
>>155645112Shittaste on your part, for your preferences
>>155643977>a show for boysIt's a show for everyone.
>>155645158Go back
>>155644436>it was hinted atyou're literally who the picture is mocking
>>155644421>>155644436pretty sure Korrasami predates this by a couple of years
>>155645142I didn't say that I like Bubbline, I said that I'd still be disappointed in what the show did with it even if I did like it.
>>155643963The newest version of the show is still pulling up these old relationships after all these years. If it was trash then it's going to be trash now and if you want the talk about it to stop then tell them to stop making new adventure time content. You're just mad people don't like your poorly done lesbian relationship.>>155645158Made for everyone but the "finncels" or people who cared more about the mc than the shitty forced lesbians like they were supposed to, apparently. But not even then because for actual gays bubbline is insulting as any sort of representation. Stereotypes that can't control themselves or go 5 seconds not getting attention from their partner without getting mad to the point of wanting people dead but still somehow talking down to others over supposed immaturity. Straight women wanted the twilight tier ship of fionna and marshal lee over genderbent worse more boring bubbline. It's a show that COULD have been for near everyone but got wasted by pretentious cunts with shit taste.
>>155645112nah yurifags love that shit, I've seen tons of bitchy lesbians turned in to uwu wholesome couples in fanart
What happened to billy is basically what spiritually happened to the show
>>155638464>women write a dumbass song>kills western animation almost instantlyPowerful.
>>155638464This was way better.
>>155645402Does it? Because Korrasami was only the last second of the last episode, no one entertained it before.
>>155646213I mean by being "last-minute lesbians." at least with Bubbline the writers were leaning into it as the show went on
>>155645950>cubbychambersMuh nigga
>>155638464In retrospect it was decent since it led to Finn ending up with Huntress Wizard AKA the best girl in the show
>>155646333Trips witnessed
>>155643963How can someone be angry for so many years?
>>155646333Just one memory with huntress was considered similarly painful to him getting mutilated and betrayed by his dad. And obviously he went years not even knowing where he stood with her to the point he couldn't even believe she said I love you back and wanted to kill himself. The other failed relationships sucked but they made this one drag on and then had the nerve to rush it in a shitty boring spinoff while revealing an entire bubbline show in the works.>>155647689How can creators keep making such bad decisions?
>>155647820How do you simultaneously make a relationship drag miserably and rush it's development ffs
>>155647820Get a life
>>155647848Get a mirror and defend your dog shit better cunt. The nerve of you retards.
>>155647820Maybe just maybe, it's time to give cartoons a rest, anon.
>>155648159Tell that to the people making it if it really bothers you to hear criticism about their content. That's like saying I should give up on pencils because you want to shove them up your ass instead of writing with them.
It wasn't so bad. I liked it then, and I like it now.
>>155647878Keep sneeding
>>155648600Keep trying to talk down to me for being here when you're still here and just mad you can't defend the show.
>>155638479Finn getting cucked was always the vision from the start.PB and Marcy were designed to be the cool older girls that boys would have a childish crush on.Finn learning to move on and later having to get over a breakup is good character development.
>>155645112You're forgetting that they also drank hot cocoa.
>>155648846All wrong
>>155648846Marceline and Bonnie were always endgame, saying otherwise is denial.
Adventure Time needed for fetish stuff like Totally Spies
Early Adventure Time was peak but this episode was the turning point 100%
>>155648965No
>>155643977ur childhood crush was always gonna fuck someone who wasn't you
>>155649040The truth has been spoken.
>>155649040yeah and going by modern cartoons they'll randomly become a lesbian
>>155646333>Huntress Wizard>girlPick one and only one
They cute.
>>155649072Don’t project
>>155649087What?
>>155649072I pick Flame Princess.
>>155648846It's not good character development to have pb act seriously out of character. It doesn't work as development for finn and it doesn't work to set up your lesbian ship. Since the way pb treats him comes off as uncharacteristically/unreasonably cruel and the reasoning given for their break up being immaturity it actually makes bubbline look worse, since the bubbline breakup shown post main series has marceline being even more immature than finn with less excuse. Again it's just pretentious trash acting like you're teaching anyone anything good. You're not. The kids watching probably got more out of seeing their own parents divorce than this nonsense pointlessly spiteful plot.
>>155648846>we can't have young boys having crushes on girls, we must use the characters to push lesbians onto childrenok
>>155649113The truth >>155649140Poor choice
>>155649328>My truthFix'd
>>155649402No
>>155648846Pen described it as Betty and Veronica when he pitched it to Frederator, if Adventure Time ended the same way the latest Archie adaptation did he'd be in a threesome with PB and Marcy
What the heck were the writers thinking?
>>155647820>Just one memory with huntress was considered similarly painful to him getting mutilated and betrayed by his dad.And don't forget how they had a whole scene of all the princesses sexually harassing comatose Finn just like Breezy, which was fucking pointless because none of these background princesses with the exception of FP had any real with Finn, also they apparently brought back FP from the shadow realm just to make her a coping cheater spinster, you could've this whole scene nothing substantial would've changed in the story.Fionna and Cake gets stupidier the more you notice the shit writing
>>155649445Could've removed*
>>155649422bruh she's literally named huntrans wizard and is very transcoded
>>155649040Watch out anon, some may find this a hard truth to swallow.
>>155649459Fuck off and stop projecting >>155649467Cuck
>>155646333They showed naked boys butts but they never allowed naked girls butts like Fire Princess, Princess bubblegum and marceline to be exposed
>>155649445>>155649457Don’t you ever get tired of being so pathetic?
>>155649443Why was he wearing a diaper again?
>>155646333>Huntress Wizard AKA the best girl in the showyou only say that because she ended up with Finn that's literally all you fags care about
>>155649498Cope
>>155649076True.>>155646333>Huntress Wizard AKA the best girl in the showYou're wrong. She's the bad boy in the show.
>>155649489Fuck off
>>155649477she's canonically trans, anonprojection my bum
>>155649527Kys, faggot >>155649530That’s you
>>155648846>durr its good finn ended up as an unloved and miserable lonerKill yourself, cunts like you are why women are being hated on more and more
>>155649556>>durr its good finn ended up as an unloved and miserable lonerHe didn’t
>>155646333Based
>>155646333>Huntress Wizard AKA the best girlIt's not a girl. It's an exceptional beast.>>155649527Kek, you would never see real girls like Fire Princess, Princess bubblegum and marceline doing what Huntress did by the way.
>>155643963You'd be correct if the show completely stopped after the finale, however it's been going on like a zombie for years with spin offs that blatantly appeal to coping 30yo white millennial women.You really cannot blame people for disliking you shit pairing if it gets spammed, same case as TTGO
>>155649585Nobody likes you
What compels some anons to live vicariously through a self-insert character? Isn't this unhealthy?
>>155649600You’ve got any other riveting “arguments”?
>>155649561He ended up with the best kind of loveBoy Love
>>155649621Gtfo
>>155643963/thread
>>155649639Nah
>>155643963Such is life.
>>155649669Cunts are unnecessary
>>155649669the artstyle used to be so cute then everyones faces got vertically stretched
>>155649443This episode was so weird. Finn felt out of character.
>>155649701>Finn felt out of character.Because he was
>>155649076they showed Princess bubblegum and marceline sleeping with each other and even confirmed that they have sex with each other but they would never do that for finn and Huntress Wizard
>>155638501Sugar isn't trans
>>155649443A long time ago I read that Pen's mom was uncomfortable with Finn dating a "fire demon" and that's why they broke up in such a weird, abrupt fashion
>>155649430>he'd be in a threesome with PB and MarcyIn another timeline finn could have been so lucky but in the present timeline he's so unlucky
>>155649736Nah
>>155646333Best girl, best ship.
>>155649733Wait, wasn’t it because Penn and Jessica broke up?
>everyone who hates my terrible ship is a fincelnotice how there's never a real defense for this shit ship. It's always some anon crying about incels, never an explanation on why they like their terrible shipAlmost like anons are unable to actually discuss why their terrible ship isn't shit
>>155649680Transgender Tree trash like Huntress Wizard are unnecessary. Real women like Princess bubblegum, marceline and Fire Princess are necessary
>>155649763And don’t forget >>155649076
>>155649600Because life sucks and didnt get better like everyone said it wouldIf i had a gun or another surefire way to end it i would without a second thought right now. I miss enjoying cartoons or enjoying anything at all
>>155649772You are pathetic
>>155649600>straight man self insert bad>I must protect the lesbian self inserts with my life>ur unhealthy tho
>>155649815Yeah the "fincel" posters love to ignore the AGPs that self insert as PB or MarcyGuess they hatred for men is just spilling out
>>155649715I would have been way better if it was confirmed that Finn had played the meat in that sandwich once or twice, and it's why we have chill trailer Finn later on.
>>155649795Ironic that the one who calls others faggot is the one who has a trans waifu and gets furious when it's pointed out.
>>155648846The point was that he'd never get with them in the show but he'd be into them and them into him and have a Betty, Veronica, and Archie thing going on like the Archie Comics.
>>155649873Wrong, stop being delusional
>>155649899If following the lore means being delusional I guess everyone but you is
>>155649924No, lol
>>155649944then you're the one who's delusional
The sheer spite this one cartoon seems to inspire in anons is fucking pathetic.
>>155649973Reverse psychology is a meme
>>155649979maybe don't turn your fun boy and his dog show into a political soap box, you dense fuck
How are these two retards still committed to this bit after a full fucking year? You’d think at least one of them would get bored by now.
>>155650005pretty sure the trans huntress wizard poster is just trying to deflect hate from PBxMarcy
>>155649991Then just move on man, if you hate it so much why obsess over it?
>>155650005Ask him>>155650025
>>155650030>you're obsesseddo you think every anti PB x M post is the same anon or something. You know a large amount of people hate the ship for destroying the show and starting the "surprise lesbian" shit we still get in cartoons to this dayAlso gain some self awareness nigga, we're on /co/ it's where you discuss cartoons. Sorry the ship was so shit that everyone still shits on it to this day
>>155650030Nta but Because theres nothing else to enjoy anymore
>>155650072the clues were there all the time. i didn't found out until later because their dialogues were heavily censored in my native language. the fact you refer to it as "surprise lesbian" means you may be a mentally diverse individual
>>155650072I don’t give a fuck about PB and Marcy I’m talking about the fact that I have seen the same exact posts in this thread as I have in the last dozen or so AT threads over the last few months. Exact same posts, exact same arguments, exact same posters, over and over again, never ending and never saying anything new.Fuck this dead board.
>>155650121>the clues were there all the timecool name the "clues" then. Reminder we mocked you tumblr faggots for interpreting every interaction as gay >>155643309
>>155650005They’re both clearly mentally unwell so this is probably the only form of social interaction either of them get.It’s quite sad, in times past both of them would’ve been put in asylums so they wouldn’t bother normal people.
>>155650127>I went into a thread I knew I'd dislike and continue to post for reasonsare you retarded?nigga if you don't like it then leave the threadAlso, complaining about repetitive threads on 4chan is fucking hilarious
>>155650156Only the spammer is that
>>155650163You’re both fucking spammers!The only reason he makes those posts is to troll you specifically because you always take the goddamn bait, he’s admitted to doing that!
>>155650287No
>>155650287nobody has admitted shit anon
>>155649979>why would people be mad about a show that removed knowing how to fucking draw better than second grader as a perquisite for making a cartoonit truly is a mystery
>>155650333It did not, that were the execs
>>155650333it may look simple but i tried making traditional art of it and the output was atrociousand i was a year away from graduating from high school
>>155650320The Trannyspammer literally admitted in a past thread he didn’t even care about Adventure Time, he just liked trolling AdventureTranny.
>>155650391must have been a fever dream because i didn't see that
>>155650294>>155649422>>155649026Yes
>>155650417Then I guess you just missed that thread.
>>155650447then you guessed wrong
>>155650463Well then you’re not just blind, you’re retarded.
>>155650493well sorry for not being aware of your imaginary thread
>>155650512Sure, spammer
>>155650525i guess you're this adventuretranny you've been talking about
>>155650512What’s with your aversion towards punctuation and capitalization?
>>155650548it makes it easier to communicate with retards
>>155650539No>>155650565But you aren’t communicating with yourself
>>155650565If you’re not going to adhere to grammatical standards that just poorly reflects on you and lets others know you’re not worth conversing with.
>>155646333Based >>155649498Nah, she's great, look at those hips
>>155650621
>>155650621So what exactly do you get out of being such an obnoxious little faggot anyway? Is this genuinely fun for you? I’m curious, enlightened me.
>>155650650He’s just that pitiful
>>155650641>>155650650>tfw some closeted dude calls me a faggot
>>155650698Still you, fag
>>155650698You constantly talk about how much you wish a character who canonically does not have a dick would have one. By every available metric you are a fag.
>>155650754He is
