Classic World Building Questions:>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?>2) What's the main supply of slaves?>3) In case of mass enslavement, how are new slaves kept and trained to ensure they won't rebel or disrupt the society?Questions for Masters/Mistresses:>1) How do you want your slave(s) to view you/feel about you?>2) Would you consider training new slaves in groups or pairs?>3) Would you train slaves with a history before enslavement, like friends, lovers, enemies, etc?>4) What general feelings would you want your slaves to have towards each other? Competition? Jealously? Hierarchical obedience? Affection? Partnership?Questions for slaves:>1) How would you get adjusted to a new Master, or your life as a slave?>2) Would your Master assign the duty of training you to another trusted slave, training you himself, or train you with another slave?>3) If trained in a group or as a pair, who is the other slave? Your friend, your enemy, your lover, etc.>4) What training will you be put through?Questions for Switches:>1) Are your Master and slave fantasies always separate, or do you like to imagine role reversals?>2) Are there differences in how you would treat your slave(s) vs. how you imagine being treated as a slave?Last thread:>>11349760*******************************No judging here! Post whatever you want relevant to the thread topic.*******************************
Would you allow others to grope your slave, even if she clearly disliked it?
>>11375593especially because she disliked it
>>11375593Yeah no. That isn't hers. Its mine. I decide. Which...Mostly if it doesn't cause her extreme distress. It probably wouldn't. I can handle whatever it would cause, just if she has a mental breakdown from it then probably not, we can work on that. A slaves body is a temple to who owns it so of course I want people to enjoy it. Clothes on a slave will always be a compromise made with reality and practicality.
>>11375219In the last thread but something about this just sticks with me. Still being in school, at the start of your life, but you're actually just in your last days of freedom, and day by day you're being corrupted into internalizing every bit of it. Even if some outer parts of you may hold onto hope for years, inside it's already slowly taking over.>still have to go into class every day>they bully me even more...>instinctively called a Boy i used to really like "Sir">Master was elated that He burst out laughing the moment it left my mouth>didn't even notice when i never missed a beat saying "Sir" or "Miss" to every single real person after a few weeks>always kneel and keep my eyes downcast when not in use>don't speak unless spoken to>don't even respond to my human name anymore, i must forget it>"God what the fuck is that thing doing? Is she really that fucking stupid?">"Hey I bet if you told her to suck your cock she'd just do it...">Master is everything, i can never escape Him>i must find some way to be happy>there's no other choice>no hope, only Master
>>11375593Depends the slave. They are property but they are MY property. An affront on a favored slave's body is an affront against my person so I would be forced to punish the offender, whether master or not.I have slaves reserved for that, such as temple prostitutes and free use fuckdolls that have no rights and can be groped, injured or humiliated however they please provided they are not murdered or permanently mutilated (without my consent).But my favored concubines and special slave girls are off limits to the point I will cut the hand off anyone who touches them without permission. Particularly I like to keep fallen rebels, captured royalty or any slavegirl whose upbringing makes her "special" somehow.
>>11376268I just own a personal slave, so strangers touching her is with the idea that I am at a bare minimum within yelping range, any other kind of service she would do she would be under the care of a overseer who would have all my permissions for her on file. Generally, strangers can grope and touch, but not penetrate, or do any manhandling or mild violence. At most you can stick your fingers in her mouth for her to suck on, but anything further, plunging them in to choke her, wrapping your hand around her neck, anything trying to enter any of her holes then she is supposed to try her best to bow her head respectfully and ask that you get the attention of her Master should you wish to use her further, and only attempt to resist in the most extreme circumstances.Most of the time this might be some stranger having fun while I'm talking to someone else outdoors. My slave does get a lot of attention after all, her body is a temple, and she is extremely devoted to showing worship to her Master. I'd only really charge a tip for something like sucking someone off. If you want her to worship the ground infront of you, use her as a footstool, or just bully her and have some fun with light slaps? Yeah no, enjoy. Just make sure I sign off on what you plan to do first. She's meant for entertainment and service both. She's really good at begging infact, so if you scold her for not looking at you respectfully and then order her to beg for forgiveness and mercy she will absolutely put on a fantastic show.
>>11375757I guess a new slave (or extremely devoted veteran slave) wouldn't like to be touched by others than her Master.
>>11376504Most slaves need to be heavily trained to get out of the impulse that they only really want to be touched by Master. Even other people they know, there's this built in feeling that their body should be exclusive to who their life is about. A new slave can have this beaten out of her relatively quickly, but a slave that is a completely devoted veteran would have a very rough adjustment. Same with having a slave sister and being part of any kind of harem, except even with flawless training there will always be friction. Master's life is her life, and sharing her life with other servants will never once not feel wrong in some capacity.
>>11376509This. They're slaves, who gets to touch them and how is not for her to choose, but Master's
>>11376541If your slave is having trouble with this beyond just simple discipline then you need to sit her down on the floor infront of you and explain: "slaves don't get to decide anything".Have her repeat that mantra over and over. She is a tool, and she exists to do what Master commands her to do, nothing more, nothing less. Her thoughts and feeling are taken into account with the decisions Master makes, that is why she has no right whatsoever to hide them, but authority of any kind in her life will never be hers, it begins and ends with Master.
>>11375581incase anyone needs archives:https://archived.moe/d/search/subject/Slavery/https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/d.desu.meta/subject/Slavery/
>>11376560Lewd crests, slave seals, cursed equipment, etc better be a thing if I ever get isekaid.
>>11375581Is anyone else interested in the idea of power dynamics among the slaves. They would be organized into hierarchies, and split up into groups to perform whichever tasks they are selected for. Since advancement would require being a better slave than others or being able to train and provide better slaves than others, there would be a constant for all the slaves to be more pleasureful and dutiful. It would be a double-edged sword of being broken into a better slave by your trainers and intentionally trying to do better out of competition. Worker-slaves would be obsessively trying how to do their chores better. Sex-slaves would be thinking 24/7 about how they can worship master's cock better. My favorite part about slave-hierarchies is that the slaves themselves start to benefit from it and perpetuate it. You could wake up from a coma 20 years later and they would still be at it.
>>11376654I do prefer smaller harems and closer relationships with the girls but the division into worker and sex slaves gave me a idea, you could have a household of around 8 or so slaves and still be hands on enough to really impose a system like this. There's the worker slaves for menial tasks, and the sex slaves for sex, of course. Only 2 get to be for sex at a time, but they still do occasional housework, and the worker slaves are still occasionally forced to worship Master a lot more than usual. There will always be demotions and promotions from sex to worker, over and over, to make sure that the girls are throwing their absolute all into it. They will know both skillsets rather well, since it is very rare for a sex slave to last more than a few weeks.slave girls especially tend to be...competitive. You can use that. They absolutely plot and scheme to screw eachother over, but in the end they are slaves for a reason, if they were actually smart enough to do it well they wouldn't be spending the rest of their lives on their knees. If you're fighting hard to be granted even a extra crumb of Master's attention you will never once fight against slavery itself. I still am on team "Maximum 3 girls, they get beaten hard when they try to fight for my attention instead of understanding that they are all a identical speck of dirt" but crabs in a bucket have nothing on slaves.
>>11376666 (checked)If one of your girls is a lot newer than the others, it would take awhile for her to catch up. Do worker-slaves still do sex-training, or are they expected to figure out on their own how to please you better?
>>11376688Baptism by fire. Gets to be a sex slave for a bare minimum of 2 weeks immediately upon joining the harem. Will very likely be torn to shreds in the aftermath. Not only is her first time sucking cock complete garbage, but her personal training from Master will be focused on that, leaving her unprepared for domestic toil when she inevitability fails within seconds after those 2 weeks are up. Then she's just another grain of dirt underneath my feet.Also Satan is completely real. Don't damage my property. What you were told about hell was for humans, not slaves.
>>11376654I'd definitely prefer to be just an ordinary run-of-the-mill slave, focusing on my daily tasks and pleasing my Master whenever he happens to notice me. Other, more competitive and capable slaves can aim for the top positions in the hierarchy. I don't mind taking orders from them either.
>>11376714When she fails and gets demoted, how does she train to get better? Would there still be sex-training for worker-slaves? If you saw a girl trying to train independently by deepthroating random objects and flipping through books on sex, would you appreciate the initiative she's taking?>>11376896One of the nice things about a hierarchy is that you can advance as both a regular slave or as an overseer. A slave who needs training or who isn't very good at her job will spend most of her time serving an overseer, while the best slaves are assigned directly with master. I bet your overseer would love you since being able to present obedient slaves reflects very well on her.
>>11376896I tend to like those kind of slaves anyways. "ambitious" and "slave" really shouldn't be in the same universe, even if it does happen a lot of the time. The kind of slave who knows her place and is happy to never be anything more has the values that every slave should strive for.>>11376946I'd still want to keep the harem small enough even if its far larger than I would really want at 8 or more to give every slave a chance at least every couple weeks to pleasure me. That helps give experience, but for independent study I would appreciate them taking the initiative to get better. Training aids like dildos just wouldn't be around, not going to spend that much money on these creatures, but while reading non-approved books is a punishable offense it would be good to have some little pamphlets printed out for slaves to read over and learn about how best to please Master so they can try to practice. Short, very simple english, lots of pictures. A lot of slaves can barely read at all. >slave overseersThe idea of using slaves in this role feels wrong, but if you want a self-sustaining harem of that size it might be the best option. slaves can get absolutely brutal with how they bully eachother, and even if seeing a girl that should be completely compliant just force absolute misery on her sisters is a bit strange it does do extremely well at maintaining order for absolutely zero cost. I still think it is completely wrong for a slave overseer to administer discipline. That will be me. she can yell, manhandle, even occasionally slap slaves under her charge to keep order, but if she even thinks of touching a whip or crop then she is going to be subjected to a lot worse torture than those under her charge are capable of seeing.
>>11376654>>11376896yeah i know in a world where Masters would own multiple slaves, i wouldn't be the top one. Not that i wouldn't want to be, but i know it's not likely. Plus it's so hot to have to watch Master use His other slave, whilst I'm forced to watch and get off with a vibe, or dryhumping a boot, and then wipe HImself clean using my hair
>>11377094I get your perspective. You want to put girls in their place and have them see themselves as nothing compared to you. It's hard to reconcile the same slave thinking "I'm absolutely nothing" at one moment to independently ruling over and training another slave, and receiving the servitude of the slaves under her.I just want slaves to be obedient and committed to the whole slave-system. As long as they fulfill those responsibilities, I don't care about things like their personality, intelligence, etc, so the more compliant the are, the freer their personal lives are. Another thing I like about hierarchies is the vicarious satisfaction from seeing your favored slaves or wives live like a queen above dozens of other women simply because they have your favor.If you had to leave your slaves to go attend some sort of important meeting, how would they handle themselves? Would have have paid overseers to come keep them in line while you're gone?>>11377100>Not that i wouldn't want to be, but i know it's not likely.What do you imagine being the top slave is like? Do you think you could handle training a slave and being held responsible for her behavior? It's a big step to go from being judged by your own personal performance and obedience to being judged by what the slaves under you do.
>>11377156>Do you think you could handle training a slave and being held responsible for her behavior? It's a big step to go from being judged by your own personal performance and obedience to being judged by what the slaves under you do.Promote a faithful but weak slave to train other slavesShe fails (as expected) to train the new slavesPunish her for her failures alongside the new slaves Bonus points for role reversal where new slaves punish her as revenge
>>11377100I would prefer a pair of slaves. That still saves a second slave from a life of miserable freedom, plus you will always see how their personality differs from their sister.I would usually order them to see themselves as equally dirt in the eyes of their God, but if one of them is somehow even more extremely mentally ill than the other then it might be fun to really just indulge her in how its impossible for her to see herself as anything but the worst piece of garbage to ever technically live.Obviously in your picture you're the one licking Master's ass. You actually aren't that good at blowjobs, you don't do it that much. But even having modified rules to drive home how you were meant to be even below a slave. Most slaves are meant to kneel when they have nothing that would require them to stand, although I believe its not the best to heavily enforce it. You will have to ask permission to ever get off your knees. "Beg for permission" might be more accurate since there's a lot of things a slave might need to stand for, and if Master wants you to grovel and cry for it that's just how it is. >>11377156A lot of it is the large harem versus personal or very small harem slave experience. Beyond a certain point you just can't manage that much. The actual number may vary, but you'd have to have a very big heart to control more than like 3 or 4 slaves full time like that. I would hope that my slaves could be left alone and trusted not to get into that much trouble if I was gone for a few hours. If they have to be left alone for any long term time, then probably best to hire some sort of overseer, they won't take the lack of authority over their lives well. I could hire a friends slave overseer. I could hire a actual free overseer. Maybe I'd trust the friend and how they train their meat better, I can't say how the slaves would take either or. They'd probably just be crying too much, slaves like that have a breakdown if Master is away for even a hour.
>>11377156>What do you imagine being the top slave is like? Do you think you could handle training a slave and being held responsible for her behavior? It's a big step to go from being judged by your own personal performance and obedience to being judged by what the slaves under you do.I think generally there would be 3 types, first are the cruel, sadistic jealous headslaves, who i would try and avoid by keeping my nose very close to the floor, and showing utmost deferral to her as well as Master.The second is the type utterly infatuated with Master, who will be very overbearing to ensure everything is perfect, but as we are both desperate to please Master and have Him validate us i think it would be manageableThe last is where i think i'd be, which is just too much of a Huffelpuff, and too weak to be the bad guy. So trying hard to protect and help the others, but easily taken advantage of, and would do things like warn >>11376896 that it sounds like they don't want to please our Master
>>11377386Do you think you would be better in a more specialized administrative role? Instead of being given slaves to handle 24/7, you might have a job like organizing workers or entertainment, or being the secretary to Master or another overseer.
What would your policy be on slaves having sex with one another?It's definitely going to happen if they share quarters. One one hand, I don't want them to, since they are my property. But at the same time the cost of policing it (cameras, minders, chastity belts), wouldn't be worth it. Also, some same-sex practice for them would be useful in case I ever have to entertain a female owner at my place.
>>11377439that's more likely, no doubt the Master will have better looking slaves to serve Him personally, but maybe i can be of use to Him if i am delegated to one of his overseers. i kind of always feel that after Master buys me and gets his use from me, i will just be assigned to one of His favoured slaves, as a reward>>11377447you wouldn't have your slaves beaten into obedience? There was an earlier thread were the tenets of slave sex were>Master must give permission>Master must be present>Master must be thanked enthusiastically before, during, and afterBesides being locked into a chastity belt that's more expensive than we are just to keep our holes pure for Master is pretty hot,
>>11377447Same sex, I have no problems, good stress relief. And it will give them training for times when I want something special in bed.Opposite sex, only with my permission. I can see a male and female slave falling in love and wanting to bump uglies. As long as I approve of the match and they want to produce little slaves for me, it's fine.
>>11376268I actually did this once. A few times. The trick is to dump a pool of enough wax onto them that you can stick the candle into it, then essentially glue it there with more wax dripped from above to fill any gaps.This is incredibly difficult. If they're sweaty it won't adhere to the skin very well. And if you want to do the full back, they WILL get sweaty. So it's best to wipe down the area before adhering each candle, and test a bunch of different kinds for what sticks the best. We eventually found that the closer it is to 100% paraffin the better, but paraffin tends to have a higher melting point. There's a very small sweet spot where it's not going to burn you too badly and it adheres properly. Different dyes seem to adhere differently too, but I never got a chance to look too much into the chemistry/material science. I could definitely autism about this sometime.I actually hate waxplay. Others seem to be able to derive masochistic pleasure from it, but I can't. To me it feels the temperature equivalent of bees crawling over my skin and stinging it, all over, all at once, and unless it's a large pool of wax, which I dislike even more, the pain is too short and unpleasant for me to enjoy it.But mistress really likes wax play. So occasionally She uses it as a punishment. For when She doesn't want an apology or improvement, just penitence.Whenever we do the "stand candles on your back" thing I have to ask to be strapped down. Not just tied down, really really immobilized. The bottom has to remain really still not to spill the wax pool for long enough to stick the candle in. I am completely incapable of doing this without the help.Afterwards, it's not so bad. Any wax that comes off the candles mostly lands on top of the dried pools. There's a rather warm feeling, but it doesn't hurt too bad unless it gets directly on the skin. Frequently it does, but it's still not nearly as bad as the first step. Hate the first step. But I'll do it for mistress.
>>11377386>HuffelpuffUh oh we've got a slave who loved harry potter growing up. She's going to get bullied even more now. This thing is so braindead she even spelled hufflepuff wrong. Honestly though even if I didn't like it too much growing up I know a bunch of fans of that get way into the personality types all those houses are supposed to represent. I had to look up Hufflepuff and apparently they're supposed to be very loyal, committed to their duties, and quite humble. So that's a green flag for a slave if Ive ever seen one. If a slave told me she was part of the protagonist/leadership faction of wizard high school she's going straight back to the market. slaves of mine should know deep down that any kind of leadership is alien to them, they were always meant to be a doormat bound to a real person. >>11377462Yeah I enjoy the show of forced lez but slaves having enjoyable sex is just wrong. Especially among each other, those tenets still hold true. If a slave can't be beaten into obeying chastity then the belt would unfortunately have to come on. If it was actually more expensive than her since she's that low grade that'd be cute, but she doesn't need to know the truth of what her sale price would be anyways. Having to grovel and apologize for forcing me to spend so much money on locking up human garbage everytime she sees me would be a lot of fun too.
>>11377447if they think they can get away with it, i'd love to see them tryit will help establish a hierarchy and when i find out it will help me determine how smart and rebellious each slave is and how submissive they are of course, i may not let them know that i know, and see how it plays out...but they'll be punished in the end
>>11375581Alright, Masters. Tell me about younger slaves in your setting or household>why would you have one to begin with? Are you a lolicon? Bought a mother/daughter pair? Some other reason?>are they treated any differently than regular slaves by you? >what about their fellow slaves? how do they view and treat their younger peers?>what tasks and punishments would they be put up to considering their bodies are weaker and smaller than the others?>how are they taught the ins and outs of slavery and bondage?>how often would they interact with their mothers and what relationship would they have with eachother?>anything else you have in mind
>>11377619>slaves having enjoyable sex is just wrongnot necessarily, but it's entire reliant on their Master's benevolence>doesn't know what her sale price would be anywaysEspecially if you have plants try and buy them for a comically lowball amount whilst you're walking them
>>11377386>sounds like they don't want to please our MasterObviousy I do, but I find it hot if I was also exploited by the more ambitious ¨career¨ slaves. So basically I would have to work harder than most slaves in the houselhold to make them look better (and never get any of the praise myself). Like ''look Master, I've trained this dumb slave to do thing X, now she's finally good for something''.I'd want to be used as a step ladder by others, so that they can reach their goals, while I remain in my old lowly position, working hard as usual. Most of the other slaves simply forget about me as soon as they rise up in the hierarchy.Slave for the other slaves, if you will.
>>11378099>reliant on their Master's benevolenceOh any slaves of mine would be made to understand that that they are pleasure and don't get to have pleasure. However, a slave begging her heart out for what she wants is my weakness. I am sure I can figure something out for her if she really wants to cum in a way that isn't a scheduled release from chastity. Forced lez for example, usually a show for Master, bunch of kissing and affection, not usually sex. Even just having sex that way once would be a great kindness she should spend the rest of her life in gratitude for. >comically lowball amountThat is a fun idea, I will admit. My slave is accompanying me outside, its obvious to everyone what she is, even if it's in our own world and not slavery dystopia. Then there's people she half-remembered possibly being of service to briefly at some larger parties she was forced to attend with Master, just walking up to Him. "God you care about that bitch so much you're taking her for walkies? If I gave you $20 for her I could probably still come out ahead working her to death. Is this thing used to minimum rations?"Especially considering how slaves aren't permitted to speak unless spoken to, can just imagine a whole scene of sitting on some park bench, my slave having to dutifully worship my boots while I insist that if this total stranger wants to take her home right now they need to pay at least $50. The fact that your average slave is worth a few thousand, and even the worst trash imaginable is still several hundred, honestly I'm not sure if a slave even would know that sort of thing. It might be realistic to her that she could be seconds away from getting dragged away from Master screaming and crying, it might not. Still a bunch of fun either way.
I am a human supremist and i believe other races should be slaves by default.
>>11377559I'd love to pour the wax over a slave's genitalia
>>11378336I like this dynamic of larger hierarchies. Slaves still have all their slave-duties. It may be even worse because a pleased or preoccupied Master will mostly leave his slaves alone, while slaves assigned to an overseer will have another girl, who can't be satiated in the same way, constantly watching and controlling her, always trying to squeeze every tiny bit of submission possible left into your mind. The overseer's happiness isn't in anything the slave does, it's in what the slave is. Nothing in the world is more valuable to her than you being the most delightful, obedient slave possible.
You get into an ugly argument with your mother where things better said unspoken are freely thrown. Then you cut all contact with her and don't speak with or see her for years.And now, years later, randomly, in a bar toilet, you stumble upon her in a picrel state. WDYD?
>>11375581So those last two questions really activated my almonds.My absolute favorite scenario is one of a Mistress who ends up enslaved. Bonus points if it's somehow voluntary, or dubious-consent like a gender essentialist who espouses that men are dominant and women should be slaves, getting enslaved by her own suggestions. Fuck that's hot.
>>11378830>Mistress>gender essentialistHah. I wonder how that would even happen. I suspect there is some element to heterosexual submission especially of feeling inferior because of your gender. I wonder if I would like femdom porn as much as I do without disliking a lot of what society thinks a man should be ontop of being extremely attracted to femininity. But that's social expectations, not biological, and I know that I was always meant to spend my life ruling over a girl who knows that she just never wants to have control ever again.Possibly more for a inbetween of dystopian slavery world and the extreme relationships often discussed here, but I can imagine a extremely silly girl who claims to be a "Mistress", but in my quest to be friends with a femdom she keeps arguing with me about how women are naturally servile, maybe that's why the boy she owns is actually a sissy or something, and refuses to just blindly agree with the ideas of gender equality being told to her by a superior man. So I tell her to drop to her knees right there in public and she does. Didn't take much longer after that. Now that her and that moid she thought she had under her control are now under mine things are finally correct in her little mind. Poor boy, that Goddess he served and worshipped is now nude and grovelling in the dirt just like him. Lifes going to be even harder for both of you now.
>>11375593Depends on the groped and on the groper.My favoured slave concubine? Hands off unless you want to be enslaved yourself. A old friend groping a rando bitch. Sure. My favourite gaming buddy (turned into a bitchsuited femboy and only being let out to play) having his nipples pinched, no, you aren't allowed to do that. My mother, after an especially ugly argument, being groped by fellow slaves who're waiting for my permission to gangbang her? Sure.
Idk if someone had a fight with their mom or whatever but I get it. So many people born before 1980 have a culture that completely lacks humanity and not in the good way that a slave does. >>11378946Having a slave who usually is still able to put on a good performance of being happy to be so publicly subjugated to Master's will suddenly be freaking the fuck out that a specific stranger is touching her probably would be seeing a "old friend", or someone even more distressing from her pretending to be human days. Ive seen more than a few slaves bring stuff like that up, I guess it's a relatable experience, seeing someone you really remember out in public. The eternal paternalist in me would want to walk up behind her, put my hands on her shoulder, make sure she knows I am there to support her, and she has no choice but to try her best to make Master proud and please what to me is a random stranger, but slaves are weird and consistently show why they have someone else rule over their lives, idk. Maybe my slave spends several days in The Hole since she bit that dude. Seriously I swear she didn't use to bite before, maybe you frightened her or something. Approach a scared slave exactly like you would a scared dog, they are mostly the same thing. Just its the slaves fault in the end since she's technically smart enough to know better and she'll be tortured accordingly.
How experienced do you like your slaves?Also full size here https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/130844986
>>11379158While "completely fresh" would work for slavery world, in our own it'd be more accurate to say "Has tried her best to live life on her knees but has still done really badly at it". I guess it mirrors how I always want to go up and down the reject aisle of a slave market and find the most crazy looking gremlin to bring back home and turn into a devoted lifelong servant. Probably going to get way more "was not a fully trained and devoted slave by 22 and now believes she is irredeemable human garbage" even in slavery world anyways. Completely flawless slaves that never have deep needs for correction and discipline is just something you see on TV, it's not real. She is for sure human garbage but she is also redeemable, that's just what being a slave is. Maybe some people like to buy extremely high grade personal slaves that are just the absolute height of domestic service but like what's the point if you're not going to brainwash her yourself? Like yeah maybe if you're some richie who wants the best meals ever made every night but those people are weird. World class in sucking cock, but for sure only remembers your name because she'd be beaten if she doesn't.
>>11378547I've been on both sides of this and found that I tend to enjoy the fear/terror/begging before the genital pouring much more than the actual pouring itself. It's over too quickly, and then you have to peel it off and it gets everywhere (especially when poured over hair). It's annoying. It doesn't actually even hurt that much. It's mostly unpleasant for sensory reasons rather than the absolute amount of pain, and pouring it over the genitals doesn't particularly hurt more than any other area, no matter the genitalia. In my opinion there's a better way to do torture with wax play.For context, with spanking, you can sort of get warmed up and relax into it. Submitting isn't easy. It's scary. It requires a lot of willpower. But submitting feels incredible. I love it. I also love sharing it with my friends. I've done scenes where I've trained like 15 people in how to relax while they're being beaten. By beating them while giving guidance of course.But with wax, the way it drips and splatters is sort of inherently chaotic and unpredictable and makes you flinch and tense and recoil involuntarily. You can't relax into it, and you get slowly worn down until you're miserable. Knowing that's their goal doesn't really help. Although wax hurts less, it's much more difficult to manage. The fact that it's erratic makes it hard to even dissociate. You're just sort of stuck there, completely present in the moment, trapped in the liminal void of anticipation of discomfort, for what feels like forever.This mental state can be sort of hard to break out of. So if you start with wax play and then move to impact, they're going to be less capable of relaxing and enjoying it than if they went the other way. Wax also feels nice on new bruises. So, it's usually optimal to do impact then wax, instead wax then impact.Maybe I should start taking clients and become a pro domme, idk. I would have to take a pay cut, ironically. Might be fun though if I can figure out safety.
>>11378336>>11378559Do you expect the Master to realise, or care that you as the slave are being "exploited"imagine the higher slave taking credit for your hard work, but you're at the lowly level where you have to remain gagged at all times, whilst they can reply when spoken to.
>>11379705I think in my slave fantasies, it would be assumed that I don't get credit. Slavery isn't like having a career where I expect to grow into a better position; it's a role that is based on my exploitation. The idea of growth is one of the trappings of life as a "person", not "property" such as myself.Me working hard isn't proof of my ethic and suitability; it's proof that the head slave has been keeping me appropriately busy. Rather, if my master were to find out that I had time that wasn't being spent serving him, that would probably get the head slave punished. If I'm working hard, that just means things are going as expected, rather than that I'm deserving of any reward other than to not be locked up in a punishment cell for a week.The gag is an emblem of that. My mouth provides no value to my master, therefore it is sealed away. I don't need to speak; I only need to grunt and nod to affirm that I have understood my orders. The ability to speak is not something I am to earn with hard work, but rather something that I am to accept that I will not have, probably ever again.
Anyone else likes pictures showing their way to slavery? I really like this one. I love how she's being taken in disguise in the middle of the night. Even if someone notices this, in darkness and from distance it's going to look like 2 slightly drunk girls walking but, not even knowing that one of them is being kidnapped to start her new life as someone's sex slave.I love that vibrator to keep her entertained on her way.
>>11379902And then they disappear around the corner, getting into car parked nearby. She's strapped in and ready to go. No need for windows tint because even if someone notices, she's going to look just like a tired fancy-dressed lady being driven back home.
>>11379904While in fact under her coat she's completely tied up, gagged and wired with distracting vibrators to torment her all the way.
>>11379902I always find the processing and training in slave facilities hot, how they would strip my clothes off, dispose off any ID I might've been carrying, brand and collar me, etc etc.And after a year or so of harsh training and conditioning out of the facility walks Slave #6831, broken in, ready to be sold and eager to serve.
>>11379800Maybe Master knows how hard you've been working, but decides to give that praise to somebody more deserving of it like the headslave for training you into such obedience>>11380341>>11379902Yeah the initial overpowering, and transportation associated with the abduction, followed by the storage, display, and eventual auction
>>11375593I don't really share my stuff like that.I'm the guy who spends more on anti-theft locks than I did on the actual bike, and my slave is no different. I'm not taking her outside without securing her first.
>>11378946>My favourite gaming buddy (turned into a bitchsuited femboy and only being let out to play)I thought it was the only one with that fantasy.
>>11378946>>11381107>feminized by bro>i suck his cock under his desk while he grinds ranked games>if he gains rating he'll let me cum>if he loses rating he'll bust my balls before putting me back in the kennel>i was a healslut before and life hasnt changed much
>>11381030>Comparing your slave to a bike>Having its chains protections cost more than you spent on herThat is so good, but where do you keep it restrained if you go into a "no-slaves allowed" kind of establishment?
>>11381850I'm sure there are some kind of comfy space efficient cages for us slaves to wait in in such establishments.
>>11381687>healslutI really wish that there was some kind of a proper mmorpg where a Slave class was a thing, where your character might even be marked as ¨item¨ or ¨equipment¨ of some other player.
>>11381897the best thing about those cages is that we are helpless if passersby want to jab us with a stick >>11381903how would you set it up, how much freedom would you give the slave class to decide how or if to obey, and how would you determine the consequences?With party wipes you can have your characters work plantations until another set of adventures come, and hopefully rescue you, if successful they then decide what to do with you as part oftheir loot haul. Maybe they could sell your party on a blackmarket before they get back to civilisation, maybe they'd release you, maybe they'd keep you
>>11381903What have you done, anon? Now I want to play a game like that, being a slave.
>>11381917>how would you set it up, how much freedom would you give the slave class to decide how or if to obey, and how would you determine the consequences?the funny part is most mmo's are grindy anyway, except instead of grinding for yourself you grind for other players>you are basically a free use bank for your master>the only items you can equip are granted by your master>any materials you farm can only be used by your master>your master can deposit items in your inventory, equip items to you, and that is all you can use>quests are assigned to you by your master>any experience you gain is transferred to your master, who decides what skills to level up >masters can also remove your experience>you are your master's mount, and can be summoned at any time your average mmo already has 80% of these mechanics and people play them willingly all the time, just replace npc quest givers and items with players
>>11382089It would be so good, no matter how strong your character is, a Lvl 94 Warrior or whatever, just one serious mistake and you're done for (or you do it on purpose). Once that Slave's collar is equipped on you by some monster, group of thieves or maybe another player character that betrays you, your class is permanently changed to Slave and you're back to Lvl 1.Afterwards most of your menus and options are locked and all of your equipment, money and items are automatically transferred to your Master. And your behavior settings are changed to:>Follow: Master (locked)>When standing next to Master: Kneel (locked)>When talking to Master: Emotion set to [Smiling] (locked)Until he decides to change those settings to something else that fit his personal tastes. You of course have no say in the matter anymore.
>>11382127that actually gives me a great idea for pvp combat where losing in pvp combat results in enslavementyou could be soloing a monster in a pvp zone and someone comes out and ganks you and not only is your inventory all gone but you are now a slaveas a slave, your master determines your enemy targets and equipment, including other playerssomeone good at pvp could have an army of slaves and then take over the entire server
>>11381903I'm thinking of a vampire-themed game of some sort (think V Rising, but made into an actual traditional MMORPG), with players being able to play as a regular human, enslaved or enthralled, with little to no supernatural abilities and severely underpowered. For sure they'll primarily act as a blood vessel, but will also able to do some errands, especially in daytime or with anything that has to do with silver/garlic/fire/etc. Trading in human towns or to wandering human merchants, completing some fetch quests here and there, crafting, maybe accepting quests for the master, maybe there will be some special infiltration quests only available to humans, maybe they'll farm to feed themselves and other human slaves, lol. Swinging a sword when it comes to other human NPCs/players or wolves and the like, but not more than that.If it's a slave, it can simply try to escape or attack the master, and then the master will have N hours to catch the runaway and either enslave back or permakill, and with other vampires being able to steal the slave for themselves too. If it's a thrall, then the master's will is absolute and yada yada yada, not able to attack the master, not able to re-equip stuff without permission, not able to go away further than N meters from the master, whatever.It'll encourage the usage of alt accounts however to have some blood vessels available at any time. Also I'm not sure however how the enslavement system itself should work.Maybe make humans a complete playable race with classes such as vampire hunter and whatever, but also throw in some real underpowered and useless class like "peasant" that's pretty much designed to be enslaved. Because let's be real, if you play a vampire hunter and you get enslaved, you either delete your character or never play the game again (this is true for literally any "enslaved after defeat" scenario, such as >>11382127). So it kinda needs to be a consensual choice for 99% of players.
>>11382127Source?
Always be sure to parade fresh captures in front of the already enslaved, especially if the two parties know eachother. The new girls get a familiar preview of what's in store for them, and the old ones get to see the people they failed to protect, or alternatively, the ones they were counting on to save them fall to the same fate as them.
>>11376265Corruption is the best part of slavery, It makes me wish I was more of a spoiled/entitled brat just so I had more height to fall from and additional shame from all the behavioural and social adjustments and having to face people I used to look down on and bully, now as a 'reformed' slave
>>11382168I had one of those brats say something to me a few months ago that would have been soul crushing if I was a less powerful man. Honestly being bratty like that uses empathy in a similar way to the cruel dom voice, being able to scold people in that cruel way you need to be able to get into their emotions and their head to make sure it stings. At least to do it well, I don't think even basic level empathy comes easily to a lot of people in this world much less advanced use of it. On the long term maintaining that bratiness isn't the right fit for me, even towards other slaves, but the arc of corrupting them into the same compliant slave as their sisters who are from the more traditional slave stock of 50 mental illnesses stacked ontop of eachother is a good one. Corruption like that from the eyes of a Master is far more about a demonstration of power. Every time a part of a slaves personality is changed in favour of who owns her it is just a way to very visibly show what a deep impact her Master has had over her very existence. I can see it mattering a lot to a slave since a big way I ID someone as believing in this kind of lifestyle slavery instead of being free or even the other forms that kink takes is that this kind of submission is core to them, the only closely held belief is Master's supremacy over them. slaves tend to want to be doormats when they grow up.
>>11381917The slave class in my opinion shouldn't be a class per se, but rather a modifier for any other class (not a subclass, because subclasses are usually chosen later in the game, but the slave choice is at PC creation), i.e. a priest-slave, rogue-slave, etc. Maybe it'll give a certain skill tree to the picked class, but I'm not sure if it's possible to design a complete separate class that's completely built around servitude. It'll probably look like an overpowered healer of some kind, and so in realities of MMORPG the slave class then will be used by metaslaves (pun not intended) or as alt-accounts with masters being the main accounts. So the slave thing should be either a rather underpowered class, more like a roleplaying thing, or a modifier with little to no changes to the normal progression of a class. Also, «strong-willed» classes such as warriors and paladins and whatnot obviously should be locked from being slaves.This slave modifier is a curse of somewhat, i.e. you can't simply let a slave free, no, it's a permanent status. I'm pretty sure the mechanic is gonna be abused somehow if there will be a way to set slaves free. Throw a permanent stat debuff on top of that as well that gets stronger the further the slave is from its master.A slave starts its game either in a regular starter area, where it'll be able to pick its master on its own (for players that are in cooperation with someone or just want to progress at a same pace with an another new player), or in a capital town of some sort at a slave market inside of a cage, with players making bids and where it'll be unable to refuse its buyer. While other classes start with some starting equipment of sorts, something like a rusty sword and some leather armour and some basic skills or whatever, the slave only has rags with zero protection, a complete lack of skills and maybe a stick or some other junk weapon that deals 0 to 1 damage on hit. It is also unable to equip any other items.(1/2)
>>11382127>>11382182Once the slave finds its master or a buyer, the master then sets the basic rules for it and decide on visual slave attributes, e.g. if the character will wear a collar, will have a brand/tattoo somewhere on their body, etc. The master also gets to rename his slave once.A slave is unable to get any experience on its own. Akin to being in a party, its experience is shared with its master, but the master can control what percentage of his exp gained goes to the slave. However, if a slave completes a quest that was previously completed by its master, the master doesn't get any exp to prevent abuse, but can decide whether the slave gets the exp or no. The master is also in complete charge of his slave's skill tree and other leveling stuff. Essentially, progression and character build of a slave completely depend on its master.Same goes for loot, the master can decide what rarities go to whom. Some common junk? Yeah, let's not clog the master's inventory, let the slave carry that. A legendary weapon that the slave was lucky enough to find on it's own? Well guess what, the master gets it, and maybe if the slave is lucky it will get some praise or credit.And yeah, you guessed it, the master has complete control over slave's inventory and money. He can lock various equipment in place or prevent the slave from accessing its inventory altogether. If the master is kind enough, he may allow the slave to have some money, but set a limit on spending it.But hey, slaves are just slaves, mere items, right? So, just like that, a master can send his slave to slave market at any time and set a price for it or make an auction. Maybe the slave was only needed up to a certain point of master's progression, after which the master's characters gets some skills that make slave's skills obsolete. Maybe the master is literally a slave trainer who earns his in-game money this way. Maybe the slave is simply not playing the game that often anymore.(2/2)
>>11382138>someone comes out and ganks you and not only is your inventory all gone but you are now a slaveOne ¨easy¨ quest later (that you agreed to help some random players on).Though honestly, I might make such a careless ¨mistake¨ on purpose after playing the game for a few months and leveling up my character, or take higher and higher risks until it inevitably happened sooner or later. The higher I fall, the better.It'd also be great if I was already known as a legitimately good player on the server, so that a lot of other players would recognize me, and screenshots of my once strong character now kneeling naked next to my new Master would start spreading online.
>>11382182>Also, «strong-willed» classes such as warriors and paladins and whatnot obviously should be locked from being slaves.nah fallen hero is one of the best archetypesinstead you should have a mechanic where slaves can "challenge" the master (to fight for freedom or escape slavery). If the master isn't significantly high enough level above the slave (like pokemon, where a pokemon may be too strong to tame), or if the master allocated too much states to the slave (farming rare spawns or something), then the slave could potentially overcome the master in a duelbut if the slave loses to the master, then their stat ceiling lowers (as they are beat down), and they lose a future attempt to challenge the master (or it goes on cooldown). This is where the original class matters, maybe warriors/paladins can challenge the master 4 times but every other class starts with 3 as a baseline, or priests/ranger (weaker) classes can only challenge 2 times. Maybe rogues don't have a fixed number but it's rng.eventually, the slave runs out of challenges and can no longer challenge the master for freedom and they are permanently enslaved.it would be cool if slaves had their own skill tree (still managed by master) that unlocks the longer they've been a slave. this will give long term slaves more value over new slaves.
Would you replace your slave's name with a Number?Should slave numbers be standardized so they can be tracked between owners?What numbering scheme should be used?Get on it, autistic bureaucrat doms.
>>11382189>One ¨easy¨ quest later (that you agreed to help some random players on).that gives me an idea for a slave tree ability which is to hide your status as a slavea master can have their slave flagged as a beginner player so others will join in on the quest and then be lured to where the master is waiting to gank themrevealing the low level player was actually a high level slave
>>11382194Just feels weird to me when both the master and the slave are warriors or whatever, able to fight alongside each other, both being on par regarding HP and DPS.Fallen hero makes sense, I can see the appeal and I respect your tastes, but I myself don't really fancy it.
>>11382194>this will give long term slaves more value over new slavesThat would also make for a good slave training economy; characters that are stuck as permanent slaves with a lot of learned support skills from their ability tree would fetch a way higher price than a freshly captured slave character who could still break free.That would also give a good reason for Master characters to keep their slaves around for a long time as they play (and also give slave players something to do)I guess Masters would only be able to own/sell their slaves once; they would never be able to buy/capture that same slave player again, that way people wouldn't exploit the system so easily.
>>11382203well the master levels down the slave upon capture, but there are lots of benefits to giving more skill points to a slave, like being able to farm stronger monsters, being more helpful in farming low level pvp slaves, etc. as long as the master is mindful of the challenge mechanic and doesnt allocate too many skill points, the slave is basically not escapingbut i like to be a LITTLE realistic in that an unbroken slave will try to escape/revolt at the beginningbut masters can downrank their slaves as much as they like to suit their tastes >>11382204>I guess Masters would only be able to own/sell their slaves once; they would never be able to buy/capture that same slave player again, that way people wouldn't exploit the system so easily.i dont think there should be limits on that at all, but i prefer to allow for more emergent gameplaythere could be masters who buy, train, and flip slaves at auction, farm low level slaves for auction, or just farm players in pvp and move them about it would be hilarious if a slave is bought and sold numerous times by the same playereven better if that slave is sold, managed to escape that master, and then enslaved again
>>11382200I think our names would be erased during our basic training. Saying or even thinking about it would be met with very heavy punishment. Our future masters could of course pick a new unofficial name from us, though there would be strict separation between human names and slave names, the latter being more like pet names or silly/humiliating. You better ingratiate yourself so your new pet name is something like 'cutie' and not 'pig'Of course there would also be a number used for bureacratic purposes, something like an ID number, which would be a string of pure numbers on a chip somewhere under our skin where we can't remove it, and tattooed on a barcode for easy cheking. I think it would be common to refer to us by the few last letters as those would be random and unique. Think yorha units.
You enter a high-end slave poker game in which win a young and feminized male slave. The slave is a world-class erotic dancer, having won the first place two years in a row at the international slave tournament, a size queen, having scored a bronze medal and blowjob master, while also being 3d in the slave pony race in the national tournament.And then, after the match, you're confronted by two women, one older and one younger.The older woman reveals to be the male slave's mother, and she states that, while she doesn't have the money, as she spent it all on attempts to gain her son's freedom, she offers to enslave herself to you, in exchange for her son being released. She, then, proceeds to strip naked and present herself to you. While she is obviously an older woman, being some 45 years old, she is a curvy one, with sizable tits, a moderately attractive face and a large ass. Yet, her age alone keeps her as a much less valuable than her young son, not to mention her son's skills. She then reveals that she's an experienced and well paid neurosurgeon and begs you to consider again.You start to quickly calculate in your head. If she started working tomorrow, she'd need to work for 35 years to buy what you could get for her son if you resold him to a buyer who's willing to pay the full price. But that would also demand you find someone willing to put that much money into a slave, which is far from a guarantee.And at that moment, the younger woman, a scantily dressed and very pretty blonde says that she begs you to consider the offer and says that she'll do a lot to get her husband's freedom. She then, still in the casino and with a lot of people present, turns around, bends over, and pulls her dress up and her panties down. "I'm still a virgin." She whispers. "I intended to save myself for my husband. Do as you wish, just consider the offer."WDYD?
>>11382200standard slave processing, has us barcoded so we're easily catalogued, and easy for buyers to find the make and model they want>yearborn and sex>year first captured, and used status (Virgin, Used, Whore)>height, weight>Cup size for female, dick size for men>Skin colour>Serial Code for unique identificationlike 1999F/2022U/157108/32B_/Yel/346986 for example is nobody in particular I'm sure.
>>11382483I did consider adding hair/eye colour, along with body hair and muscle density, but those can all be controlled by our owner, so aren't as useful>>11382168i agree being naturally subby means we don't get the thrill of being conquered as we're already defeated
>>11382483>used status>cup size>height, weightthese can change over the life of a slave and mean her number has to change.i think this is better:>year born, day born, sex>year assigned, day assigned>random 4 digit numberYear/Day is expressed as [last 3 digits of year]/[day number in year]Birth sex described as: 0=None/Other, 1=Male, 2=Female, 3=Intersex.Example: a transfem slave girl born on March 11th, 1999 and enslaved on Janurary 11th, 2022 and rolling a random number of 3437 would have this tracking number:> 9990701-022011-3437and probably referred to by '3437' as a shorthand.or GUID could be used, even though it's incomprehensible to humans:> 33bb7ae2-2457-4f53-8d69-c09dee8c73af> come here 4f53 !
>>11382483I'd also want a barcode tattoo, so that officials can scan that information easily. Along with Master's contact information etc.
>>11382492apparently the image I uploaded didn't get uploaded. here it is.
>>11382483>>11382492I understand why a date of birth would be useful, but it's a specific number that is unique to you and your previous life, and would make finding you or proving who you used to be easier, so I think it should be erased. Maybe just keep your age in years, more-or-less. And obviously birthday celebrations are banned. The only special day for a slave should be the day you were enslaved. Enslavement day? Liberation day? Or maybe call it 'birthday', as you were reborn that day?
>>11382493Barcode tattoo for easy access, but possible to modify (and obviously, a slave could cut off that part of skin). Chip with full info for identification, in such a place where it's impossible to remove without permanent damage, maybe even in the brain once we have the tech. Inescapable sign of a slave, will beep on any metal detector. Upgraded with more features as technology progresses.
>>11382492those details are as of first process date, it's unlikely to be crazily different, and as the process date is there, you can factor in for time. Like with the used car market, important information about its factory default, but it's up to the Master, to properly assess the His purchases so he doesn't get scammed.>>11382497date of birth can be removed, but year should remain. It's important Master knows the age for general use, wear and tear , fertility window etc.>>11382499Tattoos are done as an aesthetic in addition to chipping
>>11382499Ooh, I like that. The training center could one day even delete basic information from the slave's brain, such as her original name, or most of her past life memories. That way there would be nothing that the slave might want back, from her point of view all she's ever known is her time in training and her current life with Master.
>>11382505In my fantasies there are many tiers to slavery. Highiest tier is like a teenage delinquent who broke a window and now has to labour to pay it back. This kind gets a temrorary, stealthy, easily removed barcode. Then there are slaves with longer contracts, like months or years, but with some human rights still, an identity and a life to go back to. Those get the proper barcodes that are hard to remove. Then there are slaves for life, with no rights, no identity and no way to regain their freedom. Those get the unremovable chip. Of course, slaves are valuable so there are strong incentives for owners to lower their slaves' standing until they are forlorn, but they can only do that as punishments for breaking rules, failing tasks etc.>>11382512Yes, future technology is very hot, but i don't like to make it all-powerful, as then there is no humanity left, you may as well use androids. What's more realistic is a shock collar that reads your thought patterns and 'adjusts' them. A cruel owner may program it to punish you for reacting to your old name or thinking about the past- it's a slow corruption
>>11382492>guidthis thread is more transcoded than my music library
>>11382499>>11382512How about this? Slaves get brainchipped, and the technology to delete memories exists, but is either imperfect or is intentionally refrained from immediate use. Slaves are given a new name and forbidden from using or thinking about their old name, which gradually weakens their memory of it. The chip can only delete their memories of their old name once their memory/self-identification with it is weak enough, but the chip is able to tell if that memory HAS been deleted or not. What this means is that slaves can be trained to accept their new name, and punished for refusing or failing to let go of their old selves. She has to submit to letting her old self be destroyed, and a slave is not considered 'complete' until she's so completely crushed in will that the chip 'kicks in' and her old name just disappears from her mind irreversibly. She can remember that she used to be somebody else, but can't remember who that was, so all she has left is Master and the name he gave her.
>>11382497>>11382505maybe have the intrinsic number with her birth qualities (like a VIN) and then have the girl equivalent of a license plate which is renewed every year where they record the actual current weight/height/gender etc.
>>11382547I keep a slave with a permanently locked collar. Part of its design is a metal locket hanging from the central ring; it can be removed but is locked itself and requires a key to be replaced. Rather than a photo or anything like that, the inside of the locket contains a dry, clinical report of her name, date of birth, physical features, and then a humiliating log of personal information like date of enslavement, the date I took her virginity, her own fetishes she's embarrassed about, and a list of her "utilities" (things I use her for, from housework to onahole). It's stamped metal in the way they make charms for dog collars and such, so she can't redact anything and she knows she'd be punished if she tried.It burns her but I think she likes it in a cathartic sense. Lots of natural slaves live in continual quiet shame and humiliation for legitimate or perceived reasons, and they find something reassuring in finally being acknowledged and recognized as inferior. If you're always afraid that you're unacceptable or broken or damaged, you start to think the only reason a person would want you is if they didn't know any better and were ignorant to your failings, and you're always on the verge of rejection. You can actually break a recalcitrant girl like that by forcing her to suffer the humiliation of exposing her perceived worthlessness and then immediately following up with an understanding that in spite of her flaws you want her enough that she no longer has a say in the matter. It makes you the anchor of her entire self-worth, and being subhuman property becomes a small price to pay in exchange for belonging.Psychology aside, girls are also just super cute squirming with all their details exposed for examination. I found out my girl has a vore fetish. I made a whole play session out of demoting her from human slave to farm animal, and her locket now has faux meat quality details like she's destined for a butcher someday. Instant subspace eyes.
>>11382547if we're being sold again then inevitably our captors will re-measure our details, it's good to keep the body details at the time of initial processing so our would-be buyer can gauge what kind of life we've had in servitude
>>11382588the idea is that the slave should have an identifying number to refer to her, but actual physical details should be updated yearly separate from the number. could totally also be condensed into a second barcode mostly used in the context of sale.assuming there'd be a place to register slaves, that registry could keep the physical properties over time allowing owners to review their slave's past. sorta like how county assessors in the U.S. keep websites with records of when property was improved or when it changes owners.
>>11382583>in spite of her flaws you want her enough that she no longer has a say in the matter.Hey man another slave psychiatrist. That's often how they work, yeah. I don't expect them to ever actually believe that they are worth anything, even in the framework of being worthy to spend the rest of their life in servitude, but deep down they still know they exist to serve, so maybe if they try really hard to forget they ever had a human name they can feel happy and secure being just a slave. I'd name a especially anxiety ridden and insecure girl "crumbs", she'd just be adorable, although I'm not sure how one of them could even be a extreme version of what so many of them are. Regarding the slave registry it is important that physical characteristics are recorded in some way, even if it is regularly changed by their owner. Personally I would have those pet chip implants that would just be able to lookup the central registry, but there's a way to personalize a number that would be able to be linked to that profile. Something like 6 numbers might run out eventually, i'm not sure how the math would work, but a Master choosing numbers that feel important to them is a good way to personalize a slave with a dehumanizing number, and since there's no rules aside from a unique combination its up to them if they even tell the slave the meaning or not. Like >>11382377 was talking about I might have the last two digits be the date of enslavement, which can be used as a name. For example a girl I enslaved today would be referred to as two-three while she is trying her best to earn a flattering name. A headpat and a name of "crumbs" is a lot better than a hard slap and telling her to do better if she wants to ever be anything more than "dirtbitch".
>>11382622adding onto my post >>11382598 because slave registries are living institutions, they may change within the lifetime of a slave, so it's important that the slave's unique identifier not be tied to any arbitrary numbering scheme that can't be carried over to a successor slave registry. this is the biggest advantage to using something like UUID for lifetime identification of the slave, since there's a 340 billion billion billion billion possible UUIDs and they're commonly used. but for the same reason you'd want a UUID for lifetime identification, the registry could give a shorter number (or even a personalized / requested number) for everyday reference to a particular slave registered there. they don't have to be unique outside of the registry.UUID is like a VIN, and the shorter number (i guess call it a registration number) is more like a license plate. UUID is long, unique and definitive. Registration number is easier to remember and write down.separately to note, the old U.S. postal barcodes (POSTNET, PLANET) are very easy to draw on skin with nothing but a ruler and a marker. take note if your budget is low or you are long distance with your sub
>>11382728>old U.S. postal barcodesUnf, now I imagined being shipped to my new Master after I've finished my training, and anxiously waiting in my small container in pitch black darkness, trying to imagine what my Master looks like.
>>11382207Hilarious maybe, but there's no way that the system wouldn't get exploited like that.>Master sells a high level slave>Master kills the buyer shortly afterwards>Slave returns back to Master, maybe she was even aware of his plot>rince and repeat for easy money
>>11382804*rinse
>>11382749I bought mine like that. Took her about 2 days in the mail. It's probably because they're so happy to not be locked up in that darkness anymore but I loved seeing her just light up upon opening the crate. slaves also very clearly imprint on their Master in circumstances like that. That has to be what happened, this thing was yandere right out of the box. It's a slave's real birthday in a very literal way.
Why do I see so many Masters roleplaying as if they had bought slaves and trained them, with said slaves even having various personalities and quirks, but not a single slave roleplaying as if she had a Master?>>11382870I wonder what does it feel to be almost completely sensory deprived for two days straight, unable to move an inch, without access to food or water either. Definitely a good part of the training process. I assume many slaves pledge complete obedience to their new Masters just so they get their basic needs fulfilled, though they do it out of desperation, and as such their promises aren't really sincere. Maybe the Master should take his time to observe the slave's behavior, explain to her the rules of his household, her duties, her purpose. And if the slave pays attention and appears to sincerely agree with everything, and maybe even goes as far as trying to somewhat serve her Master despite her weakened condition, then wait for a few more hours, telling her that the food isn't ready yet (and see if she's eager to cook for herself), and only then finally feed her. If not, then it's probably a good idea to starve her for an another day or two.
>>11382934Gonna be real if you indulge a slave in that kind of stuff they will just ERP with you all day every day. Forever. I always wonder how many Masters in these threads are actually slave girls on between 11 and 20 layers of unhinged. Loving what this kind of girl is also means moderating their natural tendency to just go off the rails. I was thinking through the logistics of that stuff too. You'd have to have something like a full on life support system with some seriously sci fi stuff going on to keep them in storage long term. Even a couple days is pretty harrowing. I'd imagine since I'd still somehow indulge in my love of ordering the weirdest looking discounted dirt possible even if it was off of slave amazon she'd, at best, have a crate with one of those hamster sippy bottles cut into it. Could go with that bottle being filled with some nutrient liquid that could technically keep her alive longer, I'm not too sure of the science behind that, but even then if the workers stuff her head in the wrong way she might not even get that. Getting unpacked from the crate she's probably pretty gross too. Need to make sure to hose her off outdoors before even letting her inside, maybe have a gruel bowl prepared for her first. slaves tend to get a baptism by fire, but some kindness mixed in with the expectation of complete cruelty and dehumanization is always what I love, and getting just that crumb of kindness would help with "imprinting" the kind of love and devotion a slave does well at. If you starve her for a additional day she might barely remember what happened on her first day of servitude, which is the most important day of her life.
>>11382804the abuse is what makes it hot though>>11382934>but not a single slave roleplaying as if she had a Master?because the "master" in this thread is boring, uses chatgpt to write most of his prompts, cant identify a story hook to save his life (probably because of chatgpt), and forces everything into his boring paternalistic framework fit for a milquetoast fetlife audience
>>11383187>Be me, own a slave too dumb for regular discipline>Shove her down in The Hole for 3 days every now and then>Outdoors, has to kneel down, if a rainstorm happens it should aggressively drain about the time the water rises to her boobs, but not before>Not that she knows that>Fucking finally, she was dumb enough to disobey close to a big storm>Freaking out and begging already, got way worse when she noticed me out there nearby the grate>"Master please i'll do anything! don't let me stop serving you!">"i'm going to drown! Master!!!">Most of the screaming gets incoherent after that point>Storm kicks into high gear>Drainage works perfectly>Can go back inside knowing this thing isn't going to disobey me further by being executed without permission>>11383187My apologies but I haven't posted enough today to not have to do the captcha. I'll get back to you when having to solve that isn't taking up 80% of my brainpower. You'll be fine, don't worry.
>>11383245https://youtu.be/9Yw5jkAHgME?feature=sharedThe *blurb* sound at the end is the drainage.
>>11383255Fucking badass. This is exactly what I want a slave to feel for disobedience. Ive only seen 15 year old lets plays of Sonic 1 but I still know that the blurb sound is infact, not her actually being safe despite all the freaking out since she's not going to get out of a lifetime of servitude that easy, but sure. Seriously I don't get panic attacks quite that same way but this must be how it is in audio form.
Do you guys consider pets and slaves to be the same or similar things? By pet I mean something that is completely dependent on you but doesn't necessarily serve you, ie. High end dog breeds, cats...I ask because I often imagine myself as more of a pet for my master rather than slave because I don't think hard labor suits me, although I would definitely want to obidently serve my master if he/she treats me well. Is getting pampered the difference between a sex/relief slave and a pet? Or can sex slaves be pampered too?
>>11383386Different slaves have different jobs and different duties, not every single slave is a sex slave or a hard labour slave. Just like a pet, slaves are completely dependent on their Masters, but pets and slaves are two vastly different things, though are also somewhat related to each other.Pets are property and live in harsher conditions than their Masters as well, but they don't serve. They merely exist as an eye-candy, as a toy you can snuggle or tickle or whatever at any time, but other than that there's not much use to them. What's even worse, having pets doesn't pay off. You feed them, you care for them, and they don't really do anything in return. And no, being a pet doesn't necessarily mean you'll be pampered.So, why do you think being a slave is all about hard labour and sex? I'm not exactly the toughest slave out there, but I still have plenty of ways to serve my Master. I'd happily cook food for him, prepare a bath for him and help him take it, clean his house, give him sexual relief and withstand some abuse if he feels like I haven't been doing a good enough job or just needs me as a way to manage his anger and frustrations about something. And at the same time, it doesn't prevent me, if Master wishes so, to eat from a bowl or from the floor, to sleep on the said floor, just like a pet would. And it doesn't prevent the Master from treating me nicely every once in a while, if I really deserve it.
To be clear we're talking about a relationship where you would do something like live in Master's house, be completely dependent, but only have slavery in terms of maybe not wearing clothes and sucking cock on demand, you still can go on the computer all day and do the rest of your human things?I'd actually say that is still in the realm of what we're talking about here, I'd still call you a slave, even if pet is more on the mark. That dependence and attachment is the core emotion here, and I also think something like that is perhaps more the reality even the slave girls themselves should expect, at least early on. One of the reasons why I do suspect plenty of Master's on here are just girlies who have had their mind melted by the NEET lifestyle is that this kind of sexuality just kind of works that way, I doubt you could want to be the slave in this equation and be all that sane. Same reason why I get really concerned when one of these things gets a bout of depression and suddenly isn't able to play the videogames as a full time job anymore, even if that seems incongruous with the life both sides want to live.Also >>11383426 has a good philosophy. Being a slave isn't being worked to death in the mines, it's basically just domestic chores but without dignity. Your average slave also probably lived in her own depression nest before being enslaved, domestic toil for sure wasn't happening when she was living for herself, living for someone else does change a lot of things.
>>11382168Same, I think the whole slave psychology thing is really boring. Much hotter when slaves are just normal people who've fallen from grace.There would have to be a whole procedure for degrading and breaking these slaves, and even after being broken, they'd know what they'd lost as they begrudgingly endure a life as property.
How do you fall from grace if you were never there in the first place though?I think being a slave would be one of the most fulfilling things in my life because I could atleast be of use in some way. I feel like i'm too clumsy stupid to be given any job or household task that isn't sexual relief. What kind of slave would you even turn a 5ft autistic neet girl into?
>>11383585>too clumsy stupid>5ft autistic neet girlI mean you say that but then that's also the primary type of girl I want to enslave. If your life is a failure then devoting it to Master actually makes you more valuable since that devotion means you can be shaped by His will even further. Ive had enough public psychodrama hours, I'm tired in so many different ways, but being so small ontop of just a gigantic girlfailure makes you even better for personal domestic service. Even if you're absolutely garbage at such domestic tasks, Master's power will remake you, and its even more of a demonstration of His will if your starting point is even worse than the back end of the slave market that's getting turned into fertilizer tomorrow morning. Trying and failing to clean His home, one day you won't fail so much, since you're on your knees with Him looming over you every single day.
>>11383616This is actually more motivating than anything a therapist has ever said to me.
>>11383627Therapists will tell you to build internal strength and not to rely upon other people and look that's just not how slaves are. You can tell that to the autistic neet boyfailure but the dom version who wants to build a better life, but not the thing that knows she is meant to be a chair when she grows up.
>>11383386Being a loot slave has the best of both worlds; I'm treated like a dumb animal, AND I get to do simple things like carry Master's stuff and pull his cart around.
>>11384009Even just carrying Master's stuff is good for a slave. It's very simple, it's hard for even them to fuck up, and they get to feel useful to their Master, which is their purpose in life. Personally I like to force mine to even hold my drink when she has no other duties. Only taking it from her hand to sip on it, it's much easier than having to discipline and instruct her on how to mop my floors properly for the 10th time.
What are some online story-sites and or image sites that you know of?
>>11383187How does this guy manage to be posting around the clockLiterally any hour of the day he's there to hijack the thread with ChatGPT promptsThe slavery thread used to actually feel alive and like there were multiple people actually using it
>>11384213Oh boy, I love stories. Stories are the reason I enjoy this slavery fetish and I'm always looking for new ones to read. Off the top of my head here are some sites you can use to search for stories, with some notes>https://www.literotica.com/stories/THE erotica website. Just head over to the BDSM or the NonConsent/Reluctance categories but you can also sometimes find domination stories for instance in the Lesbian category so you can use the somewhat good tag system to find what you're looking for.>https://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/Good tag system. Pretty much dead since 2019, no updates.>https://www.thefetlibrary.com/This is a website I recently found and I haven't had the time to really explore. Looks good with a decent tag system.>https://www.utopiastories.com/stories.htmlUnfortunately dead for years now.>https://www.sexstories.comTerrible design and that's saying something because most of these sites are very basic, text heavy sites. Somewhat decent tag system.>https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/themousepad/stories-f72/This is a forum for feet fetishists but because domination fits so well with that fetish, some of the stories are relevant to the slavery fetish.>https://lady2maid.blogspot.com/This is a blog that features stories with a particular twist: a girl losing her status and becoming a maid or slave. >https://www.wattpad.com/>https://archiveofourown.org/>https://www.fanfiction.net/These websites I have never liked though I know they are big and popular. Most of the stories I found on Wattpad were really poor, like 4 or 5 paragraphs per chapter type of thing. As for AO3 I find the tag system very cumbersome and difficult to find something good, but I'm sure you can find if you search for it. Same for FanFiction>nifty.orgThis website mostly deals with LGBT stories but there are some categories like "Authoritarian" or "BDSM" you can explore in the Lesbian section for instance.Next post I'll share some specific stories
>>11384309Here are some personal favorites, I do save them on a text file because I don't want to lose them. And even then I just noticed that some of the links I had saved no longer work! I should have archived the stories. A quick note on the bdsmlibrary.com website, sometimes it goes down for a couple of days hopefully it comes back up but I'm sure it will one day not return.My very ownhttp://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=9317Slaves Of The Copper Coasthttp://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=9785Anne and Aliciahttp://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=258Exposed to the Bottomhttps://www.literotica.com/s/exposed-to-the-bottom-ch-01Learning to Servehttps://www.literotica.com/s/learning-to-serve-2The Sun in her Skyhttps://www.literotica.com/s/the-sun-in-her-sky-ch-01Autumn Labyrinthhttps://www.tapatalk.com/groups/themousepad/autumn-labyrinth-f-f-high-school-best-friends-fict-t165238.htmlRoommates? Friends? Not anymorehttps://www.tapatalk.com/groups/themousepad/roommates-friends-not-anymore-f-f-t189572.htmlI also ran out of space in the previous post and I couldn't include this website. This is a forum where people share erotica piracy (you know like simpcity but for erotic literature and comics). Always use some sort of popup blocker or ublock when visiting these types of websites, they often survive by having popup ads (I do run ublock so I don't even know if that's the case here).https://forum.allporncomix.com/forums/bdsm-femdom-erotic-literature.18/
>>11384213I usually prefer playing h-games, though good ones with a slave MC or slavery story route aren't exactly common, sadly.
>>11384322>The Sun in her SkyI'll have to properly finish that one and maybe go through a few others, because damn is that really good. If that title didn't stick out to me the fact it that it starts with a disclaimer of it being very emotionally abusive was more than enough to know that the author knows full well how BDSM is so often just emotionally overwhelming. BDSM library still is kill, one day it will be gone for good probably, yeah. I think I remember a story there that spoke to me in a similar way, mostly centered on a slave to a rich man who was able to give her the dream life of being completely live in and having zero agency. All of this stuff is lesbian and I must admit being a girl and being athletic in high school are equally unrelatable, but fuck is it good to see so much from the doms point of view, having this master plan of corruption, the end goal of that kind of dependence feels just heavenly, although I can understand how it doesn't make for good storytelling if you're being horny responsibly and actually communicate deeply what you're trying to do. And, y'know, the like 10 other ways that story is pretty dark in reality.Really good idea to actually save the full stories by the way. They lied to you, when you put something on the internet it isn't actually there forever. Actual text files are a lot easier to archive at least, there's some Half Life 2 machinima thing I liked that was uploaded to Google Video in 2006 and I am positive it exists nowhere. A full copypasta of all the old favourites would not be the worst.
>>11382200In my made up setting you would be able to own women and trade them in an ostensibly free market but this being Britain you would be legally required to tag them in the same way as cows or sheep. So "Rachel Brown" would become UK-0000002-001005 for example. Country code, county parish holding number (this ties stock to a given holding) and finally individual number. Prosecutions over incorrectly tagged stock and constant debating in parliament and DEFRA as to what slaves are exempt (with increasingly strenuous conditions on slaves that are not exempt). I would tag all my slaves and keep them in identical webbing harnesses that hug the waist and lift up the breasts. Go all in on the hucow aesthetic. I would keep one or two slaves relatively human (despite them technically being marked as livestock) to help me oversee the herd and make them wear cute long skirts when not helping manage the herd. During farm inspections I would make these two strip and get in with the rest of my slaves so they feel extra awkward.Women being milked or bred generally have profiles on a national database that can be acessed by scanning a QR on their tag or tattooed just above their pubic mound. This profile shows the slave in a series of embarrassing poses showcased like livestock. It also lists hight, weight, age, ethnicity, breast size, hipline, waistline, temperament, health and neurological conditions. Additionally it shows milk output levels and has links to the pages of offspring and a family tree for traceability. Like actual British farming, this will be an ostensible private breed association/club that basically everyone involved in slave keeping in the local or national area is in on.Farmers with high intensity slave farms typically tattoo the slave number and barcode/QR code on the right buttock, lower abdomen, left shank, and left shoulder to really sell the livestock look.>>11382493You would like my system
>>11381897I wonder how Master would tell me to get in the cage. Feet first means that my head and chest are facing anyone who walks by like in your pic. Or maybe I will be told to get in head first so that I can't see who passes by while they leer at me and maybe stop to inspect at my exposed bottom and possibly agitate me while I'm helplessly locked away.I hope Master is quick. I don't like being separated from him for too long.
>>11384856Depends on the Master's mood,Maybe He will drag us into the cage by our hair if Master so He can attend more important matters, but if He has time then He will just point inside and watch us awkwardly shuffle backwards. Then we're totally helpless to be poked and prodded whilst waiting for Master to retrieve us either by clipping the leash back onto our collar or our ankle binds to drag us out depending on which way we entered
>>11379705In my mind, the credit and blame of a slave's actions belongs to her direct overseer. Her overseer is the only one who would even care to reward her for good behavior if she felt inclined to. Even if the slave misbehaves in a very public way, most eyes turn to her overseer since she clearly can't control her slaves. This form of accountability is important because the overseer's fate needs to be tied to what kind of slaves she can produce. She'll use whatever tools she can to perfect the science of slave training. If an overseer fails at providing good slaves for her superiors, there's another overseer above her, with access to much fancier torture equipment, who will teach her the importance of her job.Slaves do things. Overseers do things through those under them. That's the difference.
>>11384856Personally I think its only right for a slave to face out the cage in whatever direction her Master would likely appear to retrieve her. Seeing her face light up when she gets sight of me, the fact they tend to actually literally cry like a nervous dog if I stop to talk to someone. It's cute. >>11385061I'm usually already in a pretty bad mood when I need to be at a establishment that won't let slaves kneel alongside people. Like I get that plenty of slaves are malicious ontop of being stupid, but that's a training issue. Dragging a slave in or out has a high chance of happening. Some of the cheaper places will have something more like a slave pen for slaves to stay in. That does mean its fun to literally throw a slave down in there, but it also depends on the complete strangers she's imprisoned with if they're the type to bully her or not. Usually they are.
>>11384842sounds a bit like what i was aiming for here >>11382492 but the being forced into making a portfolio of humiliating poses is a must.How do you think the main herd will react to the oversees being stripped and put amongst them during inspections, and go into more about the timespan of the breeding.>>11383578The psychology does have potential, like how >>11383386 sounds like a bratty bottom, but me and >>11383585 feel like natural fodder? and how would you domesticate the three of us differently
>>11385749Okay, serious question, is it possible to make cheese or ice cream from human milk or is it to thin compared to bovine milk?
>>11385794Possible yes, more the issue that there's not enough of it to make dairy products in an meaningful quantity at least with just 1 woman.Not even enough for the level of household consumption. Now with slaves and modern hormone therapy that might be different.
>>11385818Stooop, I already have a hucow thread deprivation.
>Own a slave.>she's not too bad. >Does as she's told most of the time. Isn't the worst to look at, which is good since she hasn't worn clothes since I bought her at the market 4 months ago>Only a little bit weird>As in, she begs to be executed for failing me every single time I need to discipline her>"perfect and flawless service is what such a Divine and Superior Being deserves, Master! please allow me to pay for my insolence, Master!">Not the worst...>Does not bite strangers nearly as much as I thought she would, and rarely bites free people. >Quite a good girl, comparatively.
>>11385918It's just a little bite, nothing weird about it. Doesn't even leave scars. Usually.
>>11385995It's not a "i hate you and want to kill you!" bite, it's a "show proper respect to Master!" bite. Most of the time.Honestly I just don't leave slaves like that unsupervised so it rarely has time to progress to a "rot in hell you ungrateful bitch!" bite. Can always muzzle her if it gets to be a problem.
https://www.literotica.com/s/girls-and-bridle-ch-01https://www.literotica.com/s/hightail-university-sera-pt-11Enjoy
I'm going to add to the pile.A mafia boss kidnaps a convenience store worker and makes her a pet. The writing is extremely realistic and believable. To the point where I consider it a genuine cognitohazard. Probably the second most fucked up thing I have ever read. But it's so good, and so hot. If you like brutal training you'll like it.https://archiveofourown.org/works/59239375There are other stories that come to mind, but all of them pale in comparison to this one.Also, another anon like three threads ago recommended "The Dominance Playbook" by Anton Fulmen. It's not smut, more like relationship advice and a guide for how to treat submissives to maximize mutual enjoyment. But it's really really good. It helped me a lot when I was learning how to top.
>>11382200Numbers are important for dehumanizing bureaucracy, of course but masters shouldn't be required to memorize some long barcode. That's why you come up with cute pet names. Her hair color is a classic one or just name her after something like Bacardi. Slaves are a product for your own enjoyment after all.Really a name isn't super necessary until you have more than one slave, you call someone's name to get their attention but your slave should already be focused on you at all times, a snap of the fingers should correct her if she slips up.
>>11384842I like the cut of your jib, anon.It would be especially useful to ban the use of human names for slaves. Ideally a slave should even forget their name. Numbers are the only allowable identification.What sorts of slaves would be exempt? I have a hard time imagining why any would be.
>>11386258I'm reading it and liking it so far
>>11386500Master could simply just number his slaves as well, I wouldn't mind hearing an order like ¨go clean the kitchen number 4.¨It's somehow hotter knowing that I'm so unimportant that Master can't be bothered to even give me a name. I prefer that, feeling less like a individual person, and more of a dumb submissive thing that Master happens to own.
>>11386258that was so hot, do you have any other recs?
>>11386910We need more stories in here
>>11386910For a story "In which a girl sets out to find out just how thoroughly she can give herself away." I recommend Enthusiastic Consent by ImpossibleArchitect. It is extremely wholesome and extremely autistic. It's been on hiatus for a while pending the completion of the author's physics phd, which I believe he just finished, and is now recovering from burnout. More will come eventually. I recommend everything he has ever written. It is very good.https://archiveofourown.org/works/22306660/Conbini Girl was #2, the #1 most fucked up thing I've read is WARHOUND by Kallidora Rho, and it isn't close. Much much more fucked up. Not really a slavery story, just similar vibes. It's about the way brains work, how people process stress and praise and trauma, and how to abuse this to bend and break and brainwash people. The plot of the story is the main character discovering this knowledge, using it, learning on the fly, and the knowledge corrupting her. The view inside the characters' heads is extremely realistic like Conbini Girl is, and because you learn with the viewpoint character (part 4) it basically gives you a step by step guide. Rape scenes hit different when it's the viewpoint character as the rapist and you totally understand why she's doing it. It's a long novel, quite a bit of it is available on AO3, but if you want the full thing you can go to her Patreon or buy the physical book (which is what I have done).https://archiveofourown.org/works/48577036
Public psychodrama posting isn't the best but I fear that one of the slaves around here is either in a mental hospital or has attempted to execute herself without permission. Failing at the latter and ending up in the former would be better, it's somewhat difficult for Master to rebuild you otherwise, that's not her decision to make for a reason. It's been so long since ive been there I don't even know if its realistic to have a smartphone or something, but slaves and mental illness go together like forced nudity and cocksucking. Just need to be patient with them, and understand what you're getting into by being the sun that lights up one of these thing's entire world. You'll both be fine.>>11386869As far as slave names go I think it'd be a great demonstration of the adage "slaves don't get to decide anything". Having some registration number would be essential, but what slaves are referred to should be up to who owns her, and that means that slaves could expect all manner of things. A number, a humiliating name, even her human name or just renamed to another human name of Master's choosing, the only thing a slave should expect is to have no choice. she might not even get a unique identifier at all. Personally when enslaving a girl for the first time I'd assign her the name of "dirt". If she's sold alongside others they might get accompanying simple but still degrading names, "beg" and "toil" are possibilities. she can earn a better one, or be punished by a much worse one. Maybe "dirt" actually fits her, she has the rest of her life to show her personality to me. "dirt" will be fitting for most slaves regardless.
>>11381903>>11381917>>11382189I was reading this one story on Ao3 few months ago (Sorry I don't remember the name) about few girls playing hardcore VRMMO. twist of this MMO was that when players were not online, their characters would be piloted by an AI and act as an NPCs in the world. And the mechanics of the game allowed players to get stuck in unwinnable positions like as a slave. They could play as a slave and hope for a chance to get free, create a new character to try to free their character or just abandon it, start from beginning and resign to the fate that you might occasionally see your old character sucking dicks in a brothel or something.I don't know why but the idea that you could see your old "failed" characters in a world was really hot for me.
You fuckers are influencing my mind. I dreamt that I and two other women started a game, and we tried to enter some sort of cheat codes or otherwise make the mission trivially easy, I think by entering all at once, but the game anticipated it, and immediately when we entered, it put collars on us, and some guy held our leashes. So the mission became incredibly difficult, the men were laughing, now first we had to break free, and I felt horribly terrified and lost. The dream ended quickly because of those feelings- I woke up.What's scary is that even though everything in your dream is created by your mind, I had no control, i really felt like a slave. Thoughts? Similar experiences?
>>11387623>Have a old thief character I haven't played in a while>Honestly not that great at stealth>Have to scroll all the way to the bottom to find that she has been renamed "stain">Oh no not again>Must have gotten caught trying to rob some noblemans estate>Doesn't even get to suck cock that much, she's so low level she mostly just cleans and barely cooks>This dudes a pretty important questgiver, but stain is so low rung it's really tough for other characters to even see her>she also isn't beaten down enough to stop her AI from trying to escape quite yet>Had to search for like 20 minutes on my mage character before I found stain in the pillories out backIve heard of people who played Morrowind back in the day and would mod in a house for their old character to retire to when that playthrough was over. Not sure why I haven't heard of people doing it too much in the past 20 years, probably because making that stuff yourself is hard. Having to occasionally kick over more "bad end" old characters would be fun though. There could be a idea here for having permadeath actually, could clear out a bandit cave a previous character was defeated by, leading to your new character "rescuing" your old character from slavery. In reality its more like they have the honour of serving someone better now, but come on now, they shouldn't have expected mercy.>>11387687Now you see what's going on here is that dreams are surreal nightmarescapes and now that you've got slavery on your mind, that is reflected in the dreams. It happens to a lot of people. Personally I dread when I wake up and I haven't actually enthralled anyone.What is not happening is that people in this thread are psionically torturing you and causing the need to serve to worm its way deep inside you. That would be foolish to suggest such a thing. Totally not real.
>>11387623>They could play as a slave and hope for a chance to get freeBut that's when the fun starts though. Uh, at least for me.
>>11387687>>11387709>Psionic tortureActually I really shouldn't fuck around with that. It feels bad enough when I wake up from those dreams that it totally feels authentic that could be what's actually going on. Not only do slaves like that feel everything with more intensity, but the dreams they would have must be even more soul crushing. Having actual solid memories of kneeling and looking directly into the eyes of someone might actually be enough to make you feel like you're sharing that same nightsmarescape with them in some way. Believing you just bound your soul together even a little bit is a better thing to imagine than feeling ground down by reality. >>11387735It'd be nice to make it a option in character creation. Otherwise the moment I got a high level character I'd have to stop a decent amount of level 1 adventurers attempting to do some sort of raid on my home. Look I know im some successful wizard with a tower full of priceless magical artifacts but you gotta at least successfully steal something good in order to be enslaved. If I grabbed everyone who tried and failed to even take a fork I'd have thousands of slaves.
HEY! I saw that weird stealth bump with the ahsoka picture. Idk why you would do stuff like that but they even let her have a little bed instead of being forced to sleep on the floor. Presumably it was right to delete the post since that would just make the slave super ungrateful, there's a reason why you treat strong warrior types even worse.
>>11386946eh that one didnt float my boat personally. the 2 geniuses thing was too much
>>11388548For some reason technobabble arouses me. Especially when an extreme amount of effort is put into it. Call it the autism, I guess. I be chugging the Tylenol fr fr.Also I really need my ass beat and to spend some time on my knees, but I have to miss the dungeon event tonight. I have to wait a few days. It will be a hard few days.
>>11387687Lucky you, it's been years since I last saw a dream where I was a slave. All I remember from it is that I was a harem slave in some desert palace and my overseer/trainer kept yelling at me telling me to hurry up and do my work. Then I was ordered to run to some other room nearby, and kneel in front of Master's guest there, who had just arrived and give him the usual "welcoming blowjob".Needless to say I was mad when I woke up shortly after that and realized it was just a nice dream.
>>11388704They always sting when you wake up, honestly the most recent one for being a Master had a major theme of walking through just the most dystopian female slavery world possible and trying to find some good girl to save from a much worse fate. Giving people welcoming blowjobs is way better than "public torture installations" every 50 meters. There's just no way to stop yourself from psychoanalyzing that for ages.
I think this one has awakened something in me.For context, Arle here has been captured to be sold as a slave on a market catered to evil wizards. As part of her preparation, her tongue is forced out and branded with a control rune, rendering her unable to disobey whoever the rune's attuned to. She screams in pain, the slaver tells her to be quiet, she instantly stops screaming and can no longer make a sound. That's all well and good, but what gets me is that her tongue is left like that, pinned down to put her control brand on display to a clientele likely to know what it does. And that's so fucking hot. Magical brands and tattoos advertised as perks of your purchase, extra features added on to the slave, arranged in such a way to present them as such. You could do it with accessories or non-visible spells too! Imagine a slave standing in the market, completely naked, miserable or defiant but strangely not restrained at all. Her hands humiliatingly form a heart around some pubic tattoo. When asked what her deal is, she's dutifully explains, compelled by the spells to answer such questions no matter how little she wants to. Maybe tell her potential buyer that if he stands in this spot or says these words, that control will be temporarily extended to him as well as sort of a free sample. Anyone else feeling this? Help me out here.
>>11389069>"evil" wizardI am subjugating these pathetic bitches beneath me for good reasons but yes, I can see what's going on there. Even if it's a decently sized drain on magical power its still a fantastic demonstration of that power. There's the usual form of brainwashing that makes Master feel all powerful over your tiny existence and then there's just being a actual fucking wizard. A good wizard. You're being bent to his will by power unimaginable to your small mind since its what you deserve. Do not be mistaken, that is a punishable offence, and the skies the limit with what kind of torture a slave can be forced to inflict on herself if magic works that way.
My girl asked me when I'm going to keep her blind again. She gets so smiley and deliciously subbie when she can't see. If it were practical, I'd keep her all soft in the dark all the time.
>>11389318Just fuck a blind person at that point.
>>11389402They're too competent. This just puts her into subspace almost instantly.She's not very good at anything domestic in them yet. Loading the dishwasher must've taken her over half an hour, but you don't need to see to keep my dick wet. A leash helps though.
>>11389318Get her those blackout contact lenses
>>11386946>It's about the way brains work, how people process stress and praise and trauma, and how to abuse this to bend and break and brainwash peopleThis is my favorite part of slavery. Can you recommend any other content that covers this?
>>11389641I did. It was so cute in public. and when we got home, she was almost a little sad to take them out. Said it was like waking up from a dream.
Blogposting disclaimer #XVII, but that slave who sticks around here that I had concerns about might still be alive. That was enough to give me a good mental health day today at least.>>11389318Your slave just sounds so sweet. she certainly earns the title of "my girl", might even feel wrong to give a slave like that a demeaning name. I'm not surprised that domestic service is especially hard, anything that isn't cocksucking would probably suffer greatly. I'm sure with a lot of training she could get pretty good at certain domestic tasks, and any slave would love to visibly show just how devoted they are doing things for Master literally with their eyes closed.Overseeing her trying to feel around and do her best while completely blind would just make my heart melt, she probably wouldn't get any actual work done since I'd just be headpatting her too much. Just adorable.
>>11390534>she probably wouldn't get any actual work done since I'd just be headpatting her too much. Just adorable.Its true. I'm spoiling her rotten, but it's too cute not to do. I love how, as much as she tries to anticipate, she doesn't know when she's going to be touched or where, something as simple as a nose boop or a kiss, there's always a tiny element of surprise that startles her.
>>11390837Hnngh.God slaves are so cute. They are just things that are meant to serve, but that just makes spoiling them like that even more adorable. That's a girl that is truly head empty, no thoughts, only Master.
>>11390873It really is. She made coffee and brought it into my office for a kiss, and then went to sort papers, both of which would have been a disaster if she couldn't see.
>>11390884Those scenes of just day to day domestic service, god one day. I do wonder what tasks could even be done to a high standard in a reasonable amount of time completely blind like that. It might take a long time to even train to half of where she would be with sight, if that. Doing all of this service in exchange for a smile and a kiss is still absolutely what a slave dreams of, just doing it completely blind is even more of a dream. Do you actually kiss her on the mouth? It feels strange to kiss a slave like you would a lover, I much prefer the soft dehumanization of just kissing her forehead when being affectionate.
>>11390926>might take a long time to even train to half of where she would be with sight, if that.For one thing, I don't want her to become too competent. Her being unsure of herself and trying her best is too adorable. There are some obvious limitations to keeping her blind full-time, it's more of a sensory treat for her, so of course there will be plenty of affection and pets, which she experiences even more strongly without the distraction of sight.I already know what I want to do to her when she's blind, and not even fucking. I'm going to sit her down and feed her carrot cake (and okay, possibly my dick, depending on the mood). I'm not going to break her immersion simply because I'm horny.
>>11390956I can see a slave being upset about not actually being of good service during such tasks, but the point of it would really be the performance of being so vulnerable for Master, I'm sure she understands it doesn't matter that much if she can't actually do her tasks properly. Handfeeding her carrot cake sounds wonderful, I presume it is handfeeding. A good idea would be to lead her around a bit before sitting her down. Maybe do a few laps of your home, just to help disorient her and increase that reliance. Especially if you're guiding her to kneel on the floor while you're doing this instead of a specific piece of furniture, it could be anywhere.
>>11389069There used to be threads on /d/ about lewd curse tattoos, cursed equipment, negative status changes etc stuff, and I loved those threads. Just the idea of being an adventurer and making one mistake changes your life forever. Like equipping some questionable armor that you found in a dungeon because the stats were good, only to find out it transforms in some bondage slave equipment the second you put it on.>class changed to level 1 Slave>hp is now 10>strengh is now 1 (no weapon equipped)>defence is now 1>auto-traveling now to: Slave marketAnd so on.
>>11390967>point of it would really be the performance of being so vulnerableIt really is. It brings out her subbie side, but at the same time, I'll admit it bring out the carer in me. It's a good dynamic I've never had before, so i'm trying to not fuck it up. Even the bondage has been light, wrists behind with soft cotton belt from a robe.A good idea would be to lead her around a bit before sitting her downI would put them in her eyes in the bathroom and guide her into the living room and then have her sit on the floor against the love seat, so she has a little back support. Its helpful that she's against a solid object, that gives her a sense of grounding when she can't see.
>>11391037>bring out the carer in me>i'm trying to not fuck it upAgain, she sounds so sweet. You seem to be treating her quite well, this level of intentional care alongside a still extremely obvious gap in power is a great slavery dynamic to have. A lot of slaves still want that immense torture and cruelty, I'm continually surprised by how deep it goes for a lot of them, so even if she is just impossibly sweet its important to not let that stop you from treating her how she really deserves. They often don't want full softness all the time and many girls who self-identify as slaves also have extreme trouble communicating with their betters. She seems very happy though, so you're doing good taking care of her and her servile mind. >back against the love seatI actually do use a love seat as my main computer chair. That is 100% just for a tiny dog to spend a good chunk of her life sleeping directly next to me, but still. I think mine is a bit lower than usual but that would still give her support as opposed to just floating in the middle of the floor. Actually if you can find a position where she can kneel up against the loveseat while you're there, especially between your legs, and have a way to comfortably handfeed her while she's still braced up against the seat instead of kneeling before it, then that's a one way ticket to submissive heaven. What a good girl.
Yeah not gonna lie, this lame blind play talk makes me limp like a noodle.
>>11391219Your limp dick is flaccid and shall not survive what is to come. The hard times have only just begun.
>>11389645It sounds like what you're looking for is in fact The Dominance Playbook. Again, big recommend.Also I would just recommend talking to a lot of people about what makes them tick. Online is good, irl even better.As far as smut, there's Taimanin Training Plan, which pushed a lot of good buttons for me. Sadly a QQ account is required. But nothing else comes to mind. I'm out of stories. I'll finally get to reading some of the ones other people posted.https://forum.questionablequesting.com/threads/taimanin-training-plan-taimanin-series-oc-mc.18903/
>>11390534>the slave that sticks around here might still be aliveElaborate? I used to talk with her a bit here and have wondered a while if she's okay.
>>11391431Basically what's going on is that I tracked down her steam profile back in June, and sent her a friend request. The silver lining is that I for sure found the right one this time, since it's been pending since then, and her hours in playing the videogames dropped to 0 overnight. My worry about causing a mental health crisis from that alone was not helped by checking on her profile like 20 times a day, but to control the yandere I suppose it's good to have a bit of it yourself. She was doing a bit better the past few months, played the videogames, even managed to get similar high scores to what I saw before I sent it. Around September she started falling off again, and that worry got a lot worse when it's extremely rare for her to be offline at all, much less for a week and a half~. My concern was the full progression of the crisis to the mental hospital after having a long time to stew on her feelings, but she did just go back online that Sunday. So, y'know, might still be alive. Maybe someone kicked over her computer or something, idk, computers are weird and we should have never progressed beyond the abacus. Launching a videogame would be more of a proof of life, she hasn't done that, but I understand how her mind probably has a lot more going on. She actually has a immense amount of hours in all of the Fallout's except the one my steam avatar is cropped from, makes me think it might have been too painful since Ive had that for over a decade now. That's a big chunk of blogposting but maybe some people appreciate the platonic ideal of slaves being baskets of mental illness who yearn to serve and worship people who are only maybe 20% less crazy. Poor slave for sure knows that life after being rejected by Master isn't worth living, makes complete sense she's terrified, that's a lot to put on someone when no matter how hard you try it will still be true.
>>11391264>shall not survive what is to comewhat is to come?
What a good slave! I knew saying that outloud would have the desired effect, for sure alive. It's honestly weird to do this out in public so that's enough for now. >>11391783Soft limp dicks create hard times. The hard times never stop, history is fully erect, forever. Nah honestly I just wanted to have fun making fun of someone. Nothing more to it than setting it up for that follow up. It is funny that Steam started having what I think is now reported as DDOS issues within 5 minutes of me posting that though. slaves generally do have hard lives though, so it is largely true that the erect times never even began for them, they always lived that way.
>>11391783Hopefully not more mediocrity.
