Classic World Building Questions:>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?>2) What's the main supply of slaves?>3) In case of mass enslavement, how are new slaves kept and trained to ensure they won't rebel or disrupt the society?Questions for Masters/Mistresses:>1) How do you want your slave(s) to view you/feel about you?>2) Would you consider training new slaves in groups or pairs?>3) Would you train slaves with a history before enslavement, like friends, lovers, enemies, etc?>4) What general feelings would you want your slaves to have towards each other? Competition? Jealously? Hierarchical obedience? Affection? Partnership?Questions for slaves:>1) How would you get adjusted to a new Master, or your life as a slave?>2) Would your Master assign the duty of training you to another trusted slave, training you himself, or train you with another slave?>3) If trained in a group or as a pair, who is the other slave? Your friend, your enemy, your lover, etc.>4) What training will you be put through?Questions for Switches:>1) Are your Master and slave fantasies always separate, or do you like to imagine role reversals?>2) Are there differences in how you would treat your slave(s) vs. how you imagine being treated as a slave?Last thread:>>11349760*******************************No judging here! Post whatever you want relevant to the thread topic.*******************************
Would you allow others to grope your slave, even if she clearly disliked it?
>>11375593especially because she disliked it
>>11375593Yeah no. That isn't hers. Its mine. I decide. Which...Mostly if it doesn't cause her extreme distress. It probably wouldn't. I can handle whatever it would cause, just if she has a mental breakdown from it then probably not, we can work on that. A slaves body is a temple to who owns it so of course I want people to enjoy it. Clothes on a slave will always be a compromise made with reality and practicality.
>>11375219In the last thread but something about this just sticks with me. Still being in school, at the start of your life, but you're actually just in your last days of freedom, and day by day you're being corrupted into internalizing every bit of it. Even if some outer parts of you may hold onto hope for years, inside it's already slowly taking over.>still have to go into class every day>they bully me even more...>instinctively called a Boy i used to really like "Sir">Master was elated that He burst out laughing the moment it left my mouth>didn't even notice when i never missed a beat saying "Sir" or "Miss" to every single real person after a few weeks>always kneel and keep my eyes downcast when not in use>don't speak unless spoken to>don't even respond to my human name anymore, i must forget it>"God what the fuck is that thing doing? Is she really that fucking stupid?">"Hey I bet if you told her to suck your cock she'd just do it...">Master is everything, i can never escape Him>i must find some way to be happy>there's no other choice>no hope, only Master
>>11375593Depends the slave. They are property but they are MY property. An affront on a favored slave's body is an affront against my person so I would be forced to punish the offender, whether master or not.I have slaves reserved for that, such as temple prostitutes and free use fuckdolls that have no rights and can be groped, injured or humiliated however they please provided they are not murdered or permanently mutilated (without my consent).But my favored concubines and special slave girls are off limits to the point I will cut the hand off anyone who touches them without permission. Particularly I like to keep fallen rebels, captured royalty or any slavegirl whose upbringing makes her "special" somehow.
>>11376268I just own a personal slave, so strangers touching her is with the idea that I am at a bare minimum within yelping range, any other kind of service she would do she would be under the care of a overseer who would have all my permissions for her on file. Generally, strangers can grope and touch, but not penetrate, or do any manhandling or mild violence. At most you can stick your fingers in her mouth for her to suck on, but anything further, plunging them in to choke her, wrapping your hand around her neck, anything trying to enter any of her holes then she is supposed to try her best to bow her head respectfully and ask that you get the attention of her Master should you wish to use her further, and only attempt to resist in the most extreme circumstances.Most of the time this might be some stranger having fun while I'm talking to someone else outdoors. My slave does get a lot of attention after all, her body is a temple, and she is extremely devoted to showing worship to her Master. I'd only really charge a tip for something like sucking someone off. If you want her to worship the ground infront of you, use her as a footstool, or just bully her and have some fun with light slaps? Yeah no, enjoy. Just make sure I sign off on what you plan to do first. She's meant for entertainment and service both. She's really good at begging infact, so if you scold her for not looking at you respectfully and then order her to beg for forgiveness and mercy she will absolutely put on a fantastic show.
>>11375757I guess a new slave (or extremely devoted veteran slave) wouldn't like to be touched by others than her Master.
>>11376504Most slaves need to be heavily trained to get out of the impulse that they only really want to be touched by Master. Even other people they know, there's this built in feeling that their body should be exclusive to who their life is about. A new slave can have this beaten out of her relatively quickly, but a slave that is a completely devoted veteran would have a very rough adjustment. Same with having a slave sister and being part of any kind of harem, except even with flawless training there will always be friction. Master's life is her life, and sharing her life with other servants will never once not feel wrong in some capacity.
>>11376509This. They're slaves, who gets to touch them and how is not for her to choose, but Master's
>>11376541If your slave is having trouble with this beyond just simple discipline then you need to sit her down on the floor infront of you and explain: "slaves don't get to decide anything".Have her repeat that mantra over and over. She is a tool, and she exists to do what Master commands her to do, nothing more, nothing less. Her thoughts and feeling are taken into account with the decisions Master makes, that is why she has no right whatsoever to hide them, but authority of any kind in her life will never be hers, it begins and ends with Master.
>>11375581incase anyone needs archives:https://archived.moe/d/search/subject/Slavery/https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/d.desu.meta/subject/Slavery/
>>11376560Lewd crests, slave seals, cursed equipment, etc better be a thing if I ever get isekaid.
>>11375581Is anyone else interested in the idea of power dynamics among the slaves. They would be organized into hierarchies, and split up into groups to perform whichever tasks they are selected for. Since advancement would require being a better slave than others or being able to train and provide better slaves than others, there would be a constant for all the slaves to be more pleasureful and dutiful. It would be a double-edged sword of being broken into a better slave by your trainers and intentionally trying to do better out of competition. Worker-slaves would be obsessively trying how to do their chores better. Sex-slaves would be thinking 24/7 about how they can worship master's cock better. My favorite part about slave-hierarchies is that the slaves themselves start to benefit from it and perpetuate it. You could wake up from a coma 20 years later and they would still be at it.
>>11376654I do prefer smaller harems and closer relationships with the girls but the division into worker and sex slaves gave me a idea, you could have a household of around 8 or so slaves and still be hands on enough to really impose a system like this. There's the worker slaves for menial tasks, and the sex slaves for sex, of course. Only 2 get to be for sex at a time, but they still do occasional housework, and the worker slaves are still occasionally forced to worship Master a lot more than usual. There will always be demotions and promotions from sex to worker, over and over, to make sure that the girls are throwing their absolute all into it. They will know both skillsets rather well, since it is very rare for a sex slave to last more than a few weeks.slave girls especially tend to be...competitive. You can use that. They absolutely plot and scheme to screw eachother over, but in the end they are slaves for a reason, if they were actually smart enough to do it well they wouldn't be spending the rest of their lives on their knees. If you're fighting hard to be granted even a extra crumb of Master's attention you will never once fight against slavery itself. I still am on team "Maximum 3 girls, they get beaten hard when they try to fight for my attention instead of understanding that they are all a identical speck of dirt" but crabs in a bucket have nothing on slaves.
>>11376666 (checked)If one of your girls is a lot newer than the others, it would take awhile for her to catch up. Do worker-slaves still do sex-training, or are they expected to figure out on their own how to please you better?
>>11376688Baptism by fire. Gets to be a sex slave for a bare minimum of 2 weeks immediately upon joining the harem. Will very likely be torn to shreds in the aftermath. Not only is her first time sucking cock complete garbage, but her personal training from Master will be focused on that, leaving her unprepared for domestic toil when she inevitability fails within seconds after those 2 weeks are up. Then she's just another grain of dirt underneath my feet.Also Satan is completely real. Don't damage my property. What you were told about hell was for humans, not slaves.
>>11376654I'd definitely prefer to be just an ordinary run-of-the-mill slave, focusing on my daily tasks and pleasing my Master whenever he happens to notice me. Other, more competitive and capable slaves can aim for the top positions in the hierarchy. I don't mind taking orders from them either.
>>11376714When she fails and gets demoted, how does she train to get better? Would there still be sex-training for worker-slaves? If you saw a girl trying to train independently by deepthroating random objects and flipping through books on sex, would you appreciate the initiative she's taking?>>11376896One of the nice things about a hierarchy is that you can advance as both a regular slave or as an overseer. A slave who needs training or who isn't very good at her job will spend most of her time serving an overseer, while the best slaves are assigned directly with master. I bet your overseer would love you since being able to present obedient slaves reflects very well on her.
>>11376896I tend to like those kind of slaves anyways. "ambitious" and "slave" really shouldn't be in the same universe, even if it does happen a lot of the time. The kind of slave who knows her place and is happy to never be anything more has the values that every slave should strive for.>>11376946I'd still want to keep the harem small enough even if its far larger than I would really want at 8 or more to give every slave a chance at least every couple weeks to pleasure me. That helps give experience, but for independent study I would appreciate them taking the initiative to get better. Training aids like dildos just wouldn't be around, not going to spend that much money on these creatures, but while reading non-approved books is a punishable offense it would be good to have some little pamphlets printed out for slaves to read over and learn about how best to please Master so they can try to practice. Short, very simple english, lots of pictures. A lot of slaves can barely read at all. >slave overseersThe idea of using slaves in this role feels wrong, but if you want a self-sustaining harem of that size it might be the best option. slaves can get absolutely brutal with how they bully eachother, and even if seeing a girl that should be completely compliant just force absolute misery on her sisters is a bit strange it does do extremely well at maintaining order for absolutely zero cost. I still think it is completely wrong for a slave overseer to administer discipline. That will be me. she can yell, manhandle, even occasionally slap slaves under her charge to keep order, but if she even thinks of touching a whip or crop then she is going to be subjected to a lot worse torture than those under her charge are capable of seeing.
>>11376654>>11376896yeah i know in a world where Masters would own multiple slaves, i wouldn't be the top one. Not that i wouldn't want to be, but i know it's not likely. Plus it's so hot to have to watch Master use His other slave, whilst I'm forced to watch and get off with a vibe, or dryhumping a boot, and then wipe HImself clean using my hair
>>11377094I get your perspective. You want to put girls in their place and have them see themselves as nothing compared to you. It's hard to reconcile the same slave thinking "I'm absolutely nothing" at one moment to independently ruling over and training another slave, and receiving the servitude of the slaves under her.I just want slaves to be obedient and committed to the whole slave-system. As long as they fulfill those responsibilities, I don't care about things like their personality, intelligence, etc, so the more compliant the are, the freer their personal lives are. Another thing I like about hierarchies is the vicarious satisfaction from seeing your favored slaves or wives live like a queen above dozens of other women simply because they have your favor.If you had to leave your slaves to go attend some sort of important meeting, how would they handle themselves? Would have have paid overseers to come keep them in line while you're gone?>>11377100>Not that i wouldn't want to be, but i know it's not likely.What do you imagine being the top slave is like? Do you think you could handle training a slave and being held responsible for her behavior? It's a big step to go from being judged by your own personal performance and obedience to being judged by what the slaves under you do.
>>11377156>Do you think you could handle training a slave and being held responsible for her behavior? It's a big step to go from being judged by your own personal performance and obedience to being judged by what the slaves under you do.Promote a faithful but weak slave to train other slavesShe fails (as expected) to train the new slavesPunish her for her failures alongside the new slaves Bonus points for role reversal where new slaves punish her as revenge
>>11377100I would prefer a pair of slaves. That still saves a second slave from a life of miserable freedom, plus you will always see how their personality differs from their sister.I would usually order them to see themselves as equally dirt in the eyes of their God, but if one of them is somehow even more extremely mentally ill than the other then it might be fun to really just indulge her in how its impossible for her to see herself as anything but the worst piece of garbage to ever technically live.Obviously in your picture you're the one licking Master's ass. You actually aren't that good at blowjobs, you don't do it that much. But even having modified rules to drive home how you were meant to be even below a slave. Most slaves are meant to kneel when they have nothing that would require them to stand, although I believe its not the best to heavily enforce it. You will have to ask permission to ever get off your knees. "Beg for permission" might be more accurate since there's a lot of things a slave might need to stand for, and if Master wants you to grovel and cry for it that's just how it is. >>11377156A lot of it is the large harem versus personal or very small harem slave experience. Beyond a certain point you just can't manage that much. The actual number may vary, but you'd have to have a very big heart to control more than like 3 or 4 slaves full time like that. I would hope that my slaves could be left alone and trusted not to get into that much trouble if I was gone for a few hours. If they have to be left alone for any long term time, then probably best to hire some sort of overseer, they won't take the lack of authority over their lives well. I could hire a friends slave overseer. I could hire a actual free overseer. Maybe I'd trust the friend and how they train their meat better, I can't say how the slaves would take either or. They'd probably just be crying too much, slaves like that have a breakdown if Master is away for even a hour.
>>11377156>What do you imagine being the top slave is like? Do you think you could handle training a slave and being held responsible for her behavior? It's a big step to go from being judged by your own personal performance and obedience to being judged by what the slaves under you do.I think generally there would be 3 types, first are the cruel, sadistic jealous headslaves, who i would try and avoid by keeping my nose very close to the floor, and showing utmost deferral to her as well as Master.The second is the type utterly infatuated with Master, who will be very overbearing to ensure everything is perfect, but as we are both desperate to please Master and have Him validate us i think it would be manageableThe last is where i think i'd be, which is just too much of a Huffelpuff, and too weak to be the bad guy. So trying hard to protect and help the others, but easily taken advantage of, and would do things like warn >>11376896 that it sounds like they don't want to please our Master
>>11377386Do you think you would be better in a more specialized administrative role? Instead of being given slaves to handle 24/7, you might have a job like organizing workers or entertainment, or being the secretary to Master or another overseer.
What would your policy be on slaves having sex with one another?It's definitely going to happen if they share quarters. One one hand, I don't want them to, since they are my property. But at the same time the cost of policing it (cameras, minders, chastity belts), wouldn't be worth it. Also, some same-sex practice for them would be useful in case I ever have to entertain a female owner at my place.
>>11377439that's more likely, no doubt the Master will have better looking slaves to serve Him personally, but maybe i can be of use to Him if i am delegated to one of his overseers. i kind of always feel that after Master buys me and gets his use from me, i will just be assigned to one of His favoured slaves, as a reward>>11377447you wouldn't have your slaves beaten into obedience? There was an earlier thread were the tenets of slave sex were>Master must give permission>Master must be present>Master must be thanked enthusiastically before, during, and afterBesides being locked into a chastity belt that's more expensive than we are just to keep our holes pure for Master is pretty hot,
>>11377447Same sex, I have no problems, good stress relief. And it will give them training for times when I want something special in bed.Opposite sex, only with my permission. I can see a male and female slave falling in love and wanting to bump uglies. As long as I approve of the match and they want to produce little slaves for me, it's fine.
>>11376268I actually did this once. A few times. The trick is to dump a pool of enough wax onto them that you can stick the candle into it, then essentially glue it there with more wax dripped from above to fill any gaps.This is incredibly difficult. If they're sweaty it won't adhere to the skin very well. And if you want to do the full back, they WILL get sweaty. So it's best to wipe down the area before adhering each candle, and test a bunch of different kinds for what sticks the best. We eventually found that the closer it is to 100% paraffin the better, but paraffin tends to have a higher melting point. There's a very small sweet spot where it's not going to burn you too badly and it adheres properly. Different dyes seem to adhere differently too, but I never got a chance to look too much into the chemistry/material science. I could definitely autism about this sometime.I actually hate waxplay. Others seem to be able to derive masochistic pleasure from it, but I can't. To me it feels the temperature equivalent of bees crawling over my skin and stinging it, all over, all at once, and unless it's a large pool of wax, which I dislike even more, the pain is too short and unpleasant for me to enjoy it.But mistress really likes wax play. So occasionally She uses it as a punishment. For when She doesn't want an apology or improvement, just penitence.Whenever we do the "stand candles on your back" thing I have to ask to be strapped down. Not just tied down, really really immobilized. The bottom has to remain really still not to spill the wax pool for long enough to stick the candle in. I am completely incapable of doing this without the help.Afterwards, it's not so bad. Any wax that comes off the candles mostly lands on top of the dried pools. There's a rather warm feeling, but it doesn't hurt too bad unless it gets directly on the skin. Frequently it does, but it's still not nearly as bad as the first step. Hate the first step. But I'll do it for mistress.
>>11377386>HuffelpuffUh oh we've got a slave who loved harry potter growing up. She's going to get bullied even more now. This thing is so braindead she even spelled hufflepuff wrong. Honestly though even if I didn't like it too much growing up I know a bunch of fans of that get way into the personality types all those houses are supposed to represent. I had to look up Hufflepuff and apparently they're supposed to be very loyal, committed to their duties, and quite humble. So that's a green flag for a slave if Ive ever seen one. If a slave told me she was part of the protagonist/leadership faction of wizard high school she's going straight back to the market. slaves of mine should know deep down that any kind of leadership is alien to them, they were always meant to be a doormat bound to a real person. >>11377462Yeah I enjoy the show of forced lez but slaves having enjoyable sex is just wrong. Especially among each other, those tenets still hold true. If a slave can't be beaten into obeying chastity then the belt would unfortunately have to come on. If it was actually more expensive than her since she's that low grade that'd be cute, but she doesn't need to know the truth of what her sale price would be anyways. Having to grovel and apologize for forcing me to spend so much money on locking up human garbage everytime she sees me would be a lot of fun too.
>>11377447if they think they can get away with it, i'd love to see them tryit will help establish a hierarchy and when i find out it will help me determine how smart and rebellious each slave is and how submissive they are of course, i may not let them know that i know, and see how it plays out...but they'll be punished in the end
>>11375581Alright, Masters. Tell me about younger slaves in your setting or household>why would you have one to begin with? Are you a lolicon? Bought a mother/daughter pair? Some other reason?>are they treated any differently than regular slaves by you? >what about their fellow slaves? how do they view and treat their younger peers?>what tasks and punishments would they be put up to considering their bodies are weaker and smaller than the others?>how are they taught the ins and outs of slavery and bondage?>how often would they interact with their mothers and what relationship would they have with eachother?>anything else you have in mind
>>11377619>slaves having enjoyable sex is just wrongnot necessarily, but it's entire reliant on their Master's benevolence>doesn't know what her sale price would be anywaysEspecially if you have plants try and buy them for a comically lowball amount whilst you're walking them
>>11377386>sounds like they don't want to please our MasterObviousy I do, but I find it hot if I was also exploited by the more ambitious ¨career¨ slaves. So basically I would have to work harder than most slaves in the houselhold to make them look better (and never get any of the praise myself). Like ''look Master, I've trained this dumb slave to do thing X, now she's finally good for something''.I'd want to be used as a step ladder by others, so that they can reach their goals, while I remain in my old lowly position, working hard as usual. Most of the other slaves simply forget about me as soon as they rise up in the hierarchy.Slave for the other slaves, if you will.
>>11378099>reliant on their Master's benevolenceOh any slaves of mine would be made to understand that that they are pleasure and don't get to have pleasure. However, a slave begging her heart out for what she wants is my weakness. I am sure I can figure something out for her if she really wants to cum in a way that isn't a scheduled release from chastity. Forced lez for example, usually a show for Master, bunch of kissing and affection, not usually sex. Even just having sex that way once would be a great kindness she should spend the rest of her life in gratitude for. >comically lowball amountThat is a fun idea, I will admit. My slave is accompanying me outside, its obvious to everyone what she is, even if it's in our own world and not slavery dystopia. Then there's people she half-remembered possibly being of service to briefly at some larger parties she was forced to attend with Master, just walking up to Him. "God you care about that bitch so much you're taking her for walkies? If I gave you $20 for her I could probably still come out ahead working her to death. Is this thing used to minimum rations?"Especially considering how slaves aren't permitted to speak unless spoken to, can just imagine a whole scene of sitting on some park bench, my slave having to dutifully worship my boots while I insist that if this total stranger wants to take her home right now they need to pay at least $50. The fact that your average slave is worth a few thousand, and even the worst trash imaginable is still several hundred, honestly I'm not sure if a slave even would know that sort of thing. It might be realistic to her that she could be seconds away from getting dragged away from Master screaming and crying, it might not. Still a bunch of fun either way.
I am a human supremist and i believe other races should be slaves by default.
>>11377559I'd love to pour the wax over a slave's genitalia
>>11378336I like this dynamic of larger hierarchies. Slaves still have all their slave-duties. It may be even worse because a pleased or preoccupied Master will mostly leave his slaves alone, while slaves assigned to an overseer will have another girl, who can't be satiated in the same way, constantly watching and controlling her, always trying to squeeze every tiny bit of submission possible left into your mind. The overseer's happiness isn't in anything the slave does, it's in what the slave is. Nothing in the world is more valuable to her than you being the most delightful, obedient slave possible.
You get into an ugly argument with your mother where things better said unspoken are freely thrown. Then you cut all contact with her and don't speak with or see her for years.And now, years later, randomly, in a bar toilet, you stumble upon her in a picrel state. WDYD?
>>11375581So those last two questions really activated my almonds.My absolute favorite scenario is one of a Mistress who ends up enslaved. Bonus points if it's somehow voluntary, or dubious-consent like a gender essentialist who espouses that men are dominant and women should be slaves, getting enslaved by her own suggestions. Fuck that's hot.
>>11378830>Mistress>gender essentialistHah. I wonder how that would even happen. I suspect there is some element to heterosexual submission especially of feeling inferior because of your gender. I wonder if I would like femdom porn as much as I do without disliking a lot of what society thinks a man should be ontop of being extremely attracted to femininity. But that's social expectations, not biological, and I know that I was always meant to spend my life ruling over a girl who knows that she just never wants to have control ever again.Possibly more for a inbetween of dystopian slavery world and the extreme relationships often discussed here, but I can imagine a extremely silly girl who claims to be a "Mistress", but in my quest to be friends with a femdom she keeps arguing with me about how women are naturally servile, maybe that's why the boy she owns is actually a sissy or something, and refuses to just blindly agree with the ideas of gender equality being told to her by a superior man. So I tell her to drop to her knees right there in public and she does. Didn't take much longer after that. Now that her and that moid she thought she had under her control are now under mine things are finally correct in her little mind. Poor boy, that Goddess he served and worshipped is now nude and grovelling in the dirt just like him. Lifes going to be even harder for both of you now.
>>11375593Depends on the groped and on the groper.My favoured slave concubine? Hands off unless you want to be enslaved yourself. A old friend groping a rando bitch. Sure. My favourite gaming buddy (turned into a bitchsuited femboy and only being let out to play) having his nipples pinched, no, you aren't allowed to do that. My mother, after an especially ugly argument, being groped by fellow slaves who're waiting for my permission to gangbang her? Sure.
Idk if someone had a fight with their mom or whatever but I get it. So many people born before 1980 have a culture that completely lacks humanity and not in the good way that a slave does. >>11378946Having a slave who usually is still able to put on a good performance of being happy to be so publicly subjugated to Master's will suddenly be freaking the fuck out that a specific stranger is touching her probably would be seeing a "old friend", or someone even more distressing from her pretending to be human days. Ive seen more than a few slaves bring stuff like that up, I guess it's a relatable experience, seeing someone you really remember out in public. The eternal paternalist in me would want to walk up behind her, put my hands on her shoulder, make sure she knows I am there to support her, and she has no choice but to try her best to make Master proud and please what to me is a random stranger, but slaves are weird and consistently show why they have someone else rule over their lives, idk. Maybe my slave spends several days in The Hole since she bit that dude. Seriously I swear she didn't use to bite before, maybe you frightened her or something. Approach a scared slave exactly like you would a scared dog, they are mostly the same thing. Just its the slaves fault in the end since she's technically smart enough to know better and she'll be tortured accordingly.
How experienced do you like your slaves?Also full size here https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/130844986
>>11379158While "completely fresh" would work for slavery world, in our own it'd be more accurate to say "Has tried her best to live life on her knees but has still done really badly at it". I guess it mirrors how I always want to go up and down the reject aisle of a slave market and find the most crazy looking gremlin to bring back home and turn into a devoted lifelong servant. Probably going to get way more "was not a fully trained and devoted slave by 22 and now believes she is irredeemable human garbage" even in slavery world anyways. Completely flawless slaves that never have deep needs for correction and discipline is just something you see on TV, it's not real. She is for sure human garbage but she is also redeemable, that's just what being a slave is. Maybe some people like to buy extremely high grade personal slaves that are just the absolute height of domestic service but like what's the point if you're not going to brainwash her yourself? Like yeah maybe if you're some richie who wants the best meals ever made every night but those people are weird. World class in sucking cock, but for sure only remembers your name because she'd be beaten if she doesn't.
>>11378547I've been on both sides of this and found that I tend to enjoy the fear/terror/begging before the genital pouring much more than the actual pouring itself. It's over too quickly, and then you have to peel it off and it gets everywhere (especially when poured over hair). It's annoying. It doesn't actually even hurt that much. It's mostly unpleasant for sensory reasons rather than the absolute amount of pain, and pouring it over the genitals doesn't particularly hurt more than any other area, no matter the genitalia. In my opinion there's a better way to do torture with wax play.For context, with spanking, you can sort of get warmed up and relax into it. Submitting isn't easy. It's scary. It requires a lot of willpower. But submitting feels incredible. I love it. I also love sharing it with my friends. I've done scenes where I've trained like 15 people in how to relax while they're being beaten. By beating them while giving guidance of course.But with wax, the way it drips and splatters is sort of inherently chaotic and unpredictable and makes you flinch and tense and recoil involuntarily. You can't relax into it, and you get slowly worn down until you're miserable. Knowing that's their goal doesn't really help. Although wax hurts less, it's much more difficult to manage. The fact that it's erratic makes it hard to even dissociate. You're just sort of stuck there, completely present in the moment, trapped in the liminal void of anticipation of discomfort, for what feels like forever.This mental state can be sort of hard to break out of. So if you start with wax play and then move to impact, they're going to be less capable of relaxing and enjoying it than if they went the other way. Wax also feels nice on new bruises. So, it's usually optimal to do impact then wax, instead wax then impact.Maybe I should start taking clients and become a pro domme, idk. I would have to take a pay cut, ironically. Might be fun though if I can figure out safety.
>>11378336>>11378559Do you expect the Master to realise, or care that you as the slave are being "exploited"imagine the higher slave taking credit for your hard work, but you're at the lowly level where you have to remain gagged at all times, whilst they can reply when spoken to.
>>11379705I think in my slave fantasies, it would be assumed that I don't get credit. Slavery isn't like having a career where I expect to grow into a better position; it's a role that is based on my exploitation. The idea of growth is one of the trappings of life as a "person", not "property" such as myself.Me working hard isn't proof of my ethic and suitability; it's proof that the head slave has been keeping me appropriately busy. Rather, if my master were to find out that I had time that wasn't being spent serving him, that would probably get the head slave punished. If I'm working hard, that just means things are going as expected, rather than that I'm deserving of any reward other than to not be locked up in a punishment cell for a week.The gag is an emblem of that. My mouth provides no value to my master, therefore it is sealed away. I don't need to speak; I only need to grunt and nod to affirm that I have understood my orders. The ability to speak is not something I am to earn with hard work, but rather something that I am to accept that I will not have, probably ever again.
Anyone else likes pictures showing their way to slavery? I really like this one. I love how she's being taken in disguise in the middle of the night. Even if someone notices this, in darkness and from distance it's going to look like 2 slightly drunk girls walking but, not even knowing that one of them is being kidnapped to start her new life as someone's sex slave.I love that vibrator to keep her entertained on her way.
>>11379902And then they disappear around the corner, getting into car parked nearby. She's strapped in and ready to go. No need for windows tint because even if someone notices, she's going to look just like a tired fancy-dressed lady being driven back home.
>>11379904While in fact under her coat she's completely tied up, gagged and wired with distracting vibrators to torment her all the way.
>>11379902I always find the processing and training in slave facilities hot, how they would strip my clothes off, dispose off any ID I might've been carrying, brand and collar me, etc etc.And after a year or so of harsh training and conditioning out of the facility walks Slave #6831, broken in, ready to be sold and eager to serve.
>>11379800Maybe Master knows how hard you've been working, but decides to give that praise to somebody more deserving of it like the headslave for training you into such obedience>>11380341>>11379902Yeah the initial overpowering, and transportation associated with the abduction, followed by the storage, display, and eventual auction
>>11375593I don't really share my stuff like that.I'm the guy who spends more on anti-theft locks than I did on the actual bike, and my slave is no different. I'm not taking her outside without securing her first.
>>11378946>My favourite gaming buddy (turned into a bitchsuited femboy and only being let out to play)I thought it was the only one with that fantasy.
>>11378946>>11381107>feminized by bro>i suck his cock under his desk while he grinds ranked games>if he gains rating he'll let me cum>if he loses rating he'll bust my balls before putting me back in the kennel>i was a healslut before and life hasnt changed much
>>11381030>Comparing your slave to a bike>Having its chains protections cost more than you spent on herThat is so good, but where do you keep it restrained if you go into a "no-slaves allowed" kind of establishment?
>>11381850I'm sure there are some kind of comfy space efficient cages for us slaves to wait in in such establishments.
>>11381687>healslutI really wish that there was some kind of a proper mmorpg where a Slave class was a thing, where your character might even be marked as ¨item¨ or ¨equipment¨ of some other player.
>>11381897the best thing about those cages is that we are helpless if passersby want to jab us with a stick >>11381903how would you set it up, how much freedom would you give the slave class to decide how or if to obey, and how would you determine the consequences?With party wipes you can have your characters work plantations until another set of adventures come, and hopefully rescue you, if successful they then decide what to do with you as part oftheir loot haul. Maybe they could sell your party on a blackmarket before they get back to civilisation, maybe they'd release you, maybe they'd keep you
>>11381903What have you done, anon? Now I want to play a game like that, being a slave.
>>11381917>how would you set it up, how much freedom would you give the slave class to decide how or if to obey, and how would you determine the consequences?the funny part is most mmo's are grindy anyway, except instead of grinding for yourself you grind for other players>you are basically a free use bank for your master>the only items you can equip are granted by your master>any materials you farm can only be used by your master>your master can deposit items in your inventory, equip items to you, and that is all you can use>quests are assigned to you by your master>any experience you gain is transferred to your master, who decides what skills to level up >masters can also remove your experience>you are your master's mount, and can be summoned at any time your average mmo already has 80% of these mechanics and people play them willingly all the time, just replace npc quest givers and items with players
>>11382089It would be so good, no matter how strong your character is, a Lvl 94 Warrior or whatever, just one serious mistake and you're done for (or you do it on purpose). Once that Slave's collar is equipped on you by some monster, group of thieves or maybe another player character that betrays you, your class is permanently changed to Slave and you're back to Lvl 1.Afterwards most of your menus and options are locked and all of your equipment, money and items are automatically transferred to your Master. And your behavior settings are changed to:>Follow: Master (locked)>When standing next to Master: Kneel (locked)>When talking to Master: Emotion set to [Smiling] (locked)Until he decides to change those settings to something else that fit his personal tastes. You of course have no say in the matter anymore.
>>11382127that actually gives me a great idea for pvp combat where losing in pvp combat results in enslavementyou could be soloing a monster in a pvp zone and someone comes out and ganks you and not only is your inventory all gone but you are now a slaveas a slave, your master determines your enemy targets and equipment, including other playerssomeone good at pvp could have an army of slaves and then take over the entire server
>>11381903I'm thinking of a vampire-themed game of some sort (think V Rising, but made into an actual traditional MMORPG), with players being able to play as a regular human, enslaved or enthralled, with little to no supernatural abilities and severely underpowered. For sure they'll primarily act as a blood vessel, but will also able to do some errands, especially in daytime or with anything that has to do with silver/garlic/fire/etc. Trading in human towns or to wandering human merchants, completing some fetch quests here and there, crafting, maybe accepting quests for the master, maybe there will be some special infiltration quests only available to humans, maybe they'll farm to feed themselves and other human slaves, lol. Swinging a sword when it comes to other human NPCs/players or wolves and the like, but not more than that.If it's a slave, it can simply try to escape or attack the master, and then the master will have N hours to catch the runaway and either enslave back or permakill, and with other vampires being able to steal the slave for themselves too. If it's a thrall, then the master's will is absolute and yada yada yada, not able to attack the master, not able to re-equip stuff without permission, not able to go away further than N meters from the master, whatever.It'll encourage the usage of alt accounts however to have some blood vessels available at any time. Also I'm not sure however how the enslavement system itself should work.Maybe make humans a complete playable race with classes such as vampire hunter and whatever, but also throw in some real underpowered and useless class like "peasant" that's pretty much designed to be enslaved. Because let's be real, if you play a vampire hunter and you get enslaved, you either delete your character or never play the game again (this is true for literally any "enslaved after defeat" scenario, such as >>11382127). So it kinda needs to be a consensual choice for 99% of players.
>>11382127Source?
Always be sure to parade fresh captures in front of the already enslaved, especially if the two parties know eachother. The new girls get a familiar preview of what's in store for them, and the old ones get to see the people they failed to protect, or alternatively, the ones they were counting on to save them fall to the same fate as them.
>>11376265Corruption is the best part of slavery, It makes me wish I was more of a spoiled/entitled brat just so I had more height to fall from and additional shame from all the behavioural and social adjustments and having to face people I used to look down on and bully, now as a 'reformed' slave
>>11382168I had one of those brats say something to me a few months ago that would have been soul crushing if I was a less powerful man. Honestly being bratty like that uses empathy in a similar way to the cruel dom voice, being able to scold people in that cruel way you need to be able to get into their emotions and their head to make sure it stings. At least to do it well, I don't think even basic level empathy comes easily to a lot of people in this world much less advanced use of it. On the long term maintaining that bratiness isn't the right fit for me, even towards other slaves, but the arc of corrupting them into the same compliant slave as their sisters who are from the more traditional slave stock of 50 mental illnesses stacked ontop of eachother is a good one. Corruption like that from the eyes of a Master is far more about a demonstration of power. Every time a part of a slaves personality is changed in favour of who owns her it is just a way to very visibly show what a deep impact her Master has had over her very existence. I can see it mattering a lot to a slave since a big way I ID someone as believing in this kind of lifestyle slavery instead of being free or even the other forms that kink takes is that this kind of submission is core to them, the only closely held belief is Master's supremacy over them. slaves tend to want to be doormats when they grow up.
>>11381917The slave class in my opinion shouldn't be a class per se, but rather a modifier for any other class (not a subclass, because subclasses are usually chosen later in the game, but the slave choice is at PC creation), i.e. a priest-slave, rogue-slave, etc. Maybe it'll give a certain skill tree to the picked class, but I'm not sure if it's possible to design a complete separate class that's completely built around servitude. It'll probably look like an overpowered healer of some kind, and so in realities of MMORPG the slave class then will be used by metaslaves (pun not intended) or as alt-accounts with masters being the main accounts. So the slave thing should be either a rather underpowered class, more like a roleplaying thing, or a modifier with little to no changes to the normal progression of a class. Also, «strong-willed» classes such as warriors and paladins and whatnot obviously should be locked from being slaves.This slave modifier is a curse of somewhat, i.e. you can't simply let a slave free, no, it's a permanent status. I'm pretty sure the mechanic is gonna be abused somehow if there will be a way to set slaves free. Throw a permanent stat debuff on top of that as well that gets stronger the further the slave is from its master.A slave starts its game either in a regular starter area, where it'll be able to pick its master on its own (for players that are in cooperation with someone or just want to progress at a same pace with an another new player), or in a capital town of some sort at a slave market inside of a cage, with players making bids and where it'll be unable to refuse its buyer. While other classes start with some starting equipment of sorts, something like a rusty sword and some leather armour and some basic skills or whatever, the slave only has rags with zero protection, a complete lack of skills and maybe a stick or some other junk weapon that deals 0 to 1 damage on hit. It is also unable to equip any other items.(1/2)
>>11382127>>11382182Once the slave finds its master or a buyer, the master then sets the basic rules for it and decide on visual slave attributes, e.g. if the character will wear a collar, will have a brand/tattoo somewhere on their body, etc. The master also gets to rename his slave once.A slave is unable to get any experience on its own. Akin to being in a party, its experience is shared with its master, but the master can control what percentage of his exp gained goes to the slave. However, if a slave completes a quest that was previously completed by its master, the master doesn't get any exp to prevent abuse, but can decide whether the slave gets the exp or no. The master is also in complete charge of his slave's skill tree and other leveling stuff. Essentially, progression and character build of a slave completely depend on its master.Same goes for loot, the master can decide what rarities go to whom. Some common junk? Yeah, let's not clog the master's inventory, let the slave carry that. A legendary weapon that the slave was lucky enough to find on it's own? Well guess what, the master gets it, and maybe if the slave is lucky it will get some praise or credit.And yeah, you guessed it, the master has complete control over slave's inventory and money. He can lock various equipment in place or prevent the slave from accessing its inventory altogether. If the master is kind enough, he may allow the slave to have some money, but set a limit on spending it.But hey, slaves are just slaves, mere items, right? So, just like that, a master can send his slave to slave market at any time and set a price for it or make an auction. Maybe the slave was only needed up to a certain point of master's progression, after which the master's characters gets some skills that make slave's skills obsolete. Maybe the master is literally a slave trainer who earns his in-game money this way. Maybe the slave is simply not playing the game that often anymore.(2/2)
>>11382138>someone comes out and ganks you and not only is your inventory all gone but you are now a slaveOne ¨easy¨ quest later (that you agreed to help some random players on).Though honestly, I might make such a careless ¨mistake¨ on purpose after playing the game for a few months and leveling up my character, or take higher and higher risks until it inevitably happened sooner or later. The higher I fall, the better.It'd also be great if I was already known as a legitimately good player on the server, so that a lot of other players would recognize me, and screenshots of my once strong character now kneeling naked next to my new Master would start spreading online.
>>11382182>Also, «strong-willed» classes such as warriors and paladins and whatnot obviously should be locked from being slaves.nah fallen hero is one of the best archetypesinstead you should have a mechanic where slaves can "challenge" the master (to fight for freedom or escape slavery). If the master isn't significantly high enough level above the slave (like pokemon, where a pokemon may be too strong to tame), or if the master allocated too much states to the slave (farming rare spawns or something), then the slave could potentially overcome the master in a duelbut if the slave loses to the master, then their stat ceiling lowers (as they are beat down), and they lose a future attempt to challenge the master (or it goes on cooldown). This is where the original class matters, maybe warriors/paladins can challenge the master 4 times but every other class starts with 3 as a baseline, or priests/ranger (weaker) classes can only challenge 2 times. Maybe rogues don't have a fixed number but it's rng.eventually, the slave runs out of challenges and can no longer challenge the master for freedom and they are permanently enslaved.it would be cool if slaves had their own skill tree (still managed by master) that unlocks the longer they've been a slave. this will give long term slaves more value over new slaves.
Would you replace your slave's name with a Number?Should slave numbers be standardized so they can be tracked between owners?What numbering scheme should be used?Get on it, autistic bureaucrat doms.
>>11382189>One ¨easy¨ quest later (that you agreed to help some random players on).that gives me an idea for a slave tree ability which is to hide your status as a slavea master can have their slave flagged as a beginner player so others will join in on the quest and then be lured to where the master is waiting to gank themrevealing the low level player was actually a high level slave
>>11382194Just feels weird to me when both the master and the slave are warriors or whatever, able to fight alongside each other, both being on par regarding HP and DPS.Fallen hero makes sense, I can see the appeal and I respect your tastes, but I myself don't really fancy it.
>>11382194>this will give long term slaves more value over new slavesThat would also make for a good slave training economy; characters that are stuck as permanent slaves with a lot of learned support skills from their ability tree would fetch a way higher price than a freshly captured slave character who could still break free.That would also give a good reason for Master characters to keep their slaves around for a long time as they play (and also give slave players something to do)I guess Masters would only be able to own/sell their slaves once; they would never be able to buy/capture that same slave player again, that way people wouldn't exploit the system so easily.
>>11382203well the master levels down the slave upon capture, but there are lots of benefits to giving more skill points to a slave, like being able to farm stronger monsters, being more helpful in farming low level pvp slaves, etc. as long as the master is mindful of the challenge mechanic and doesnt allocate too many skill points, the slave is basically not escapingbut i like to be a LITTLE realistic in that an unbroken slave will try to escape/revolt at the beginningbut masters can downrank their slaves as much as they like to suit their tastes >>11382204>I guess Masters would only be able to own/sell their slaves once; they would never be able to buy/capture that same slave player again, that way people wouldn't exploit the system so easily.i dont think there should be limits on that at all, but i prefer to allow for more emergent gameplaythere could be masters who buy, train, and flip slaves at auction, farm low level slaves for auction, or just farm players in pvp and move them about it would be hilarious if a slave is bought and sold numerous times by the same playereven better if that slave is sold, managed to escape that master, and then enslaved again
>>11382200I think our names would be erased during our basic training. Saying or even thinking about it would be met with very heavy punishment. Our future masters could of course pick a new unofficial name from us, though there would be strict separation between human names and slave names, the latter being more like pet names or silly/humiliating. You better ingratiate yourself so your new pet name is something like 'cutie' and not 'pig'Of course there would also be a number used for bureacratic purposes, something like an ID number, which would be a string of pure numbers on a chip somewhere under our skin where we can't remove it, and tattooed on a barcode for easy cheking. I think it would be common to refer to us by the few last letters as those would be random and unique. Think yorha units.
You enter a high-end slave poker game in which win a young and feminized male slave. The slave is a world-class erotic dancer, having won the first place two years in a row at the international slave tournament, a size queen, having scored a bronze medal and blowjob master, while also being 3d in the slave pony race in the national tournament.And then, after the match, you're confronted by two women, one older and one younger.The older woman reveals to be the male slave's mother, and she states that, while she doesn't have the money, as she spent it all on attempts to gain her son's freedom, she offers to enslave herself to you, in exchange for her son being released. She, then, proceeds to strip naked and present herself to you. While she is obviously an older woman, being some 45 years old, she is a curvy one, with sizable tits, a moderately attractive face and a large ass. Yet, her age alone keeps her as a much less valuable than her young son, not to mention her son's skills. She then reveals that she's an experienced and well paid neurosurgeon and begs you to consider again.You start to quickly calculate in your head. If she started working tomorrow, she'd need to work for 35 years to buy what you could get for her son if you resold him to a buyer who's willing to pay the full price. But that would also demand you find someone willing to put that much money into a slave, which is far from a guarantee.And at that moment, the younger woman, a scantily dressed and very pretty blonde says that she begs you to consider the offer and says that she'll do a lot to get her husband's freedom. She then, still in the casino and with a lot of people present, turns around, bends over, and pulls her dress up and her panties down. "I'm still a virgin." She whispers. "I intended to save myself for my husband. Do as you wish, just consider the offer."WDYD?
>>11382200standard slave processing, has us barcoded so we're easily catalogued, and easy for buyers to find the make and model they want>yearborn and sex>year first captured, and used status (Virgin, Used, Whore)>height, weight>Cup size for female, dick size for men>Skin colour>Serial Code for unique identificationlike 1999F/2022U/157108/32B_/Yel/346986 for example is nobody in particular I'm sure.
>>11382483I did consider adding hair/eye colour, along with body hair and muscle density, but those can all be controlled by our owner, so aren't as useful>>11382168i agree being naturally subby means we don't get the thrill of being conquered as we're already defeated
>>11382483>used status>cup size>height, weightthese can change over the life of a slave and mean her number has to change.i think this is better:>year born, day born, sex>year assigned, day assigned>random 4 digit numberYear/Day is expressed as [last 3 digits of year]/[day number in year]Birth sex described as: 0=None/Other, 1=Male, 2=Female, 3=Intersex.Example: a transfem slave girl born on March 11th, 1999 and enslaved on Janurary 11th, 2022 and rolling a random number of 3437 would have this tracking number:> 9990701-022011-3437and probably referred to by '3437' as a shorthand.or GUID could be used, even though it's incomprehensible to humans:> 33bb7ae2-2457-4f53-8d69-c09dee8c73af> come here 4f53 !
>>11382483I'd also want a barcode tattoo, so that officials can scan that information easily. Along with Master's contact information etc.
>>11382492apparently the image I uploaded didn't get uploaded. here it is.
>>11382483>>11382492I understand why a date of birth would be useful, but it's a specific number that is unique to you and your previous life, and would make finding you or proving who you used to be easier, so I think it should be erased. Maybe just keep your age in years, more-or-less. And obviously birthday celebrations are banned. The only special day for a slave should be the day you were enslaved. Enslavement day? Liberation day? Or maybe call it 'birthday', as you were reborn that day?
>>11382493Barcode tattoo for easy access, but possible to modify (and obviously, a slave could cut off that part of skin). Chip with full info for identification, in such a place where it's impossible to remove without permanent damage, maybe even in the brain once we have the tech. Inescapable sign of a slave, will beep on any metal detector. Upgraded with more features as technology progresses.
>>11382492those details are as of first process date, it's unlikely to be crazily different, and as the process date is there, you can factor in for time. Like with the used car market, important information about its factory default, but it's up to the Master, to properly assess the His purchases so he doesn't get scammed.>>11382497date of birth can be removed, but year should remain. It's important Master knows the age for general use, wear and tear , fertility window etc.>>11382499Tattoos are done as an aesthetic in addition to chipping
>>11382499Ooh, I like that. The training center could one day even delete basic information from the slave's brain, such as her original name, or most of her past life memories. That way there would be nothing that the slave might want back, from her point of view all she's ever known is her time in training and her current life with Master.
>>11382505In my fantasies there are many tiers to slavery. Highiest tier is like a teenage delinquent who broke a window and now has to labour to pay it back. This kind gets a temrorary, stealthy, easily removed barcode. Then there are slaves with longer contracts, like months or years, but with some human rights still, an identity and a life to go back to. Those get the proper barcodes that are hard to remove. Then there are slaves for life, with no rights, no identity and no way to regain their freedom. Those get the unremovable chip. Of course, slaves are valuable so there are strong incentives for owners to lower their slaves' standing until they are forlorn, but they can only do that as punishments for breaking rules, failing tasks etc.>>11382512Yes, future technology is very hot, but i don't like to make it all-powerful, as then there is no humanity left, you may as well use androids. What's more realistic is a shock collar that reads your thought patterns and 'adjusts' them. A cruel owner may program it to punish you for reacting to your old name or thinking about the past- it's a slow corruption
>>11382492>guidthis thread is more transcoded than my music library
>>11382499>>11382512How about this? Slaves get brainchipped, and the technology to delete memories exists, but is either imperfect or is intentionally refrained from immediate use. Slaves are given a new name and forbidden from using or thinking about their old name, which gradually weakens their memory of it. The chip can only delete their memories of their old name once their memory/self-identification with it is weak enough, but the chip is able to tell if that memory HAS been deleted or not. What this means is that slaves can be trained to accept their new name, and punished for refusing or failing to let go of their old selves. She has to submit to letting her old self be destroyed, and a slave is not considered 'complete' until she's so completely crushed in will that the chip 'kicks in' and her old name just disappears from her mind irreversibly. She can remember that she used to be somebody else, but can't remember who that was, so all she has left is Master and the name he gave her.
>>11382497>>11382505maybe have the intrinsic number with her birth qualities (like a VIN) and then have the girl equivalent of a license plate which is renewed every year where they record the actual current weight/height/gender etc.
>>11382547I keep a slave with a permanently locked collar. Part of its design is a metal locket hanging from the central ring; it can be removed but is locked itself and requires a key to be replaced. Rather than a photo or anything like that, the inside of the locket contains a dry, clinical report of her name, date of birth, physical features, and then a humiliating log of personal information like date of enslavement, the date I took her virginity, her own fetishes she's embarrassed about, and a list of her "utilities" (things I use her for, from housework to onahole). It's stamped metal in the way they make charms for dog collars and such, so she can't redact anything and she knows she'd be punished if she tried.It burns her but I think she likes it in a cathartic sense. Lots of natural slaves live in continual quiet shame and humiliation for legitimate or perceived reasons, and they find something reassuring in finally being acknowledged and recognized as inferior. If you're always afraid that you're unacceptable or broken or damaged, you start to think the only reason a person would want you is if they didn't know any better and were ignorant to your failings, and you're always on the verge of rejection. You can actually break a recalcitrant girl like that by forcing her to suffer the humiliation of exposing her perceived worthlessness and then immediately following up with an understanding that in spite of her flaws you want her enough that she no longer has a say in the matter. It makes you the anchor of her entire self-worth, and being subhuman property becomes a small price to pay in exchange for belonging.Psychology aside, girls are also just super cute squirming with all their details exposed for examination. I found out my girl has a vore fetish. I made a whole play session out of demoting her from human slave to farm animal, and her locket now has faux meat quality details like she's destined for a butcher someday. Instant subspace eyes.
>>11382547if we're being sold again then inevitably our captors will re-measure our details, it's good to keep the body details at the time of initial processing so our would-be buyer can gauge what kind of life we've had in servitude
>>11382588the idea is that the slave should have an identifying number to refer to her, but actual physical details should be updated yearly separate from the number. could totally also be condensed into a second barcode mostly used in the context of sale.assuming there'd be a place to register slaves, that registry could keep the physical properties over time allowing owners to review their slave's past. sorta like how county assessors in the U.S. keep websites with records of when property was improved or when it changes owners.
>>11382583>in spite of her flaws you want her enough that she no longer has a say in the matter.Hey man another slave psychiatrist. That's often how they work, yeah. I don't expect them to ever actually believe that they are worth anything, even in the framework of being worthy to spend the rest of their life in servitude, but deep down they still know they exist to serve, so maybe if they try really hard to forget they ever had a human name they can feel happy and secure being just a slave. I'd name a especially anxiety ridden and insecure girl "crumbs", she'd just be adorable, although I'm not sure how one of them could even be a extreme version of what so many of them are. Regarding the slave registry it is important that physical characteristics are recorded in some way, even if it is regularly changed by their owner. Personally I would have those pet chip implants that would just be able to lookup the central registry, but there's a way to personalize a number that would be able to be linked to that profile. Something like 6 numbers might run out eventually, i'm not sure how the math would work, but a Master choosing numbers that feel important to them is a good way to personalize a slave with a dehumanizing number, and since there's no rules aside from a unique combination its up to them if they even tell the slave the meaning or not. Like >>11382377 was talking about I might have the last two digits be the date of enslavement, which can be used as a name. For example a girl I enslaved today would be referred to as two-three while she is trying her best to earn a flattering name. A headpat and a name of "crumbs" is a lot better than a hard slap and telling her to do better if she wants to ever be anything more than "dirtbitch".
>>11382622adding onto my post >>11382598 because slave registries are living institutions, they may change within the lifetime of a slave, so it's important that the slave's unique identifier not be tied to any arbitrary numbering scheme that can't be carried over to a successor slave registry. this is the biggest advantage to using something like UUID for lifetime identification of the slave, since there's a 340 billion billion billion billion possible UUIDs and they're commonly used. but for the same reason you'd want a UUID for lifetime identification, the registry could give a shorter number (or even a personalized / requested number) for everyday reference to a particular slave registered there. they don't have to be unique outside of the registry.UUID is like a VIN, and the shorter number (i guess call it a registration number) is more like a license plate. UUID is long, unique and definitive. Registration number is easier to remember and write down.separately to note, the old U.S. postal barcodes (POSTNET, PLANET) are very easy to draw on skin with nothing but a ruler and a marker. take note if your budget is low or you are long distance with your sub
>>11382728>old U.S. postal barcodesUnf, now I imagined being shipped to my new Master after I've finished my training, and anxiously waiting in my small container in pitch black darkness, trying to imagine what my Master looks like.
>>11382207Hilarious maybe, but there's no way that the system wouldn't get exploited like that.>Master sells a high level slave>Master kills the buyer shortly afterwards>Slave returns back to Master, maybe she was even aware of his plot>rince and repeat for easy money
>>11382804*rinse
>>11382749I bought mine like that. Took her about 2 days in the mail. It's probably because they're so happy to not be locked up in that darkness anymore but I loved seeing her just light up upon opening the crate. slaves also very clearly imprint on their Master in circumstances like that. That has to be what happened, this thing was yandere right out of the box. It's a slave's real birthday in a very literal way.
Why do I see so many Masters roleplaying as if they had bought slaves and trained them, with said slaves even having various personalities and quirks, but not a single slave roleplaying as if she had a Master?>>11382870I wonder what does it feel to be almost completely sensory deprived for two days straight, unable to move an inch, without access to food or water either. Definitely a good part of the training process. I assume many slaves pledge complete obedience to their new Masters just so they get their basic needs fulfilled, though they do it out of desperation, and as such their promises aren't really sincere. Maybe the Master should take his time to observe the slave's behavior, explain to her the rules of his household, her duties, her purpose. And if the slave pays attention and appears to sincerely agree with everything, and maybe even goes as far as trying to somewhat serve her Master despite her weakened condition, then wait for a few more hours, telling her that the food isn't ready yet (and see if she's eager to cook for herself), and only then finally feed her. If not, then it's probably a good idea to starve her for an another day or two.
>>11382934Gonna be real if you indulge a slave in that kind of stuff they will just ERP with you all day every day. Forever. I always wonder how many Masters in these threads are actually slave girls on between 11 and 20 layers of unhinged. Loving what this kind of girl is also means moderating their natural tendency to just go off the rails. I was thinking through the logistics of that stuff too. You'd have to have something like a full on life support system with some seriously sci fi stuff going on to keep them in storage long term. Even a couple days is pretty harrowing. I'd imagine since I'd still somehow indulge in my love of ordering the weirdest looking discounted dirt possible even if it was off of slave amazon she'd, at best, have a crate with one of those hamster sippy bottles cut into it. Could go with that bottle being filled with some nutrient liquid that could technically keep her alive longer, I'm not too sure of the science behind that, but even then if the workers stuff her head in the wrong way she might not even get that. Getting unpacked from the crate she's probably pretty gross too. Need to make sure to hose her off outdoors before even letting her inside, maybe have a gruel bowl prepared for her first. slaves tend to get a baptism by fire, but some kindness mixed in with the expectation of complete cruelty and dehumanization is always what I love, and getting just that crumb of kindness would help with "imprinting" the kind of love and devotion a slave does well at. If you starve her for a additional day she might barely remember what happened on her first day of servitude, which is the most important day of her life.
>>11382804the abuse is what makes it hot though>>11382934>but not a single slave roleplaying as if she had a Master?because the "master" in this thread is boring, uses chatgpt to write most of his prompts, cant identify a story hook to save his life (probably because of chatgpt), and forces everything into his boring paternalistic framework fit for a milquetoast fetlife audience
>>11383187>Be me, own a slave too dumb for regular discipline>Shove her down in The Hole for 3 days every now and then>Outdoors, has to kneel down, if a rainstorm happens it should aggressively drain about the time the water rises to her boobs, but not before>Not that she knows that>Fucking finally, she was dumb enough to disobey close to a big storm>Freaking out and begging already, got way worse when she noticed me out there nearby the grate>"Master please i'll do anything! don't let me stop serving you!">"i'm going to drown! Master!!!">Most of the screaming gets incoherent after that point>Storm kicks into high gear>Drainage works perfectly>Can go back inside knowing this thing isn't going to disobey me further by being executed without permission>>11383187My apologies but I haven't posted enough today to not have to do the captcha. I'll get back to you when having to solve that isn't taking up 80% of my brainpower. You'll be fine, don't worry.
>>11383245https://youtu.be/9Yw5jkAHgME?feature=sharedThe *blurb* sound at the end is the drainage.
>>11383255Fucking badass. This is exactly what I want a slave to feel for disobedience. Ive only seen 15 year old lets plays of Sonic 1 but I still know that the blurb sound is infact, not her actually being safe despite all the freaking out since she's not going to get out of a lifetime of servitude that easy, but sure. Seriously I don't get panic attacks quite that same way but this must be how it is in audio form.
Do you guys consider pets and slaves to be the same or similar things? By pet I mean something that is completely dependent on you but doesn't necessarily serve you, ie. High end dog breeds, cats...I ask because I often imagine myself as more of a pet for my master rather than slave because I don't think hard labor suits me, although I would definitely want to obidently serve my master if he/she treats me well. Is getting pampered the difference between a sex/relief slave and a pet? Or can sex slaves be pampered too?
>>11383386Different slaves have different jobs and different duties, not every single slave is a sex slave or a hard labour slave. Just like a pet, slaves are completely dependent on their Masters, but pets and slaves are two vastly different things, though are also somewhat related to each other.Pets are property and live in harsher conditions than their Masters as well, but they don't serve. They merely exist as an eye-candy, as a toy you can snuggle or tickle or whatever at any time, but other than that there's not much use to them. What's even worse, having pets doesn't pay off. You feed them, you care for them, and they don't really do anything in return. And no, being a pet doesn't necessarily mean you'll be pampered.So, why do you think being a slave is all about hard labour and sex? I'm not exactly the toughest slave out there, but I still have plenty of ways to serve my Master. I'd happily cook food for him, prepare a bath for him and help him take it, clean his house, give him sexual relief and withstand some abuse if he feels like I haven't been doing a good enough job or just needs me as a way to manage his anger and frustrations about something. And at the same time, it doesn't prevent me, if Master wishes so, to eat from a bowl or from the floor, to sleep on the said floor, just like a pet would. And it doesn't prevent the Master from treating me nicely every once in a while, if I really deserve it.
To be clear we're talking about a relationship where you would do something like live in Master's house, be completely dependent, but only have slavery in terms of maybe not wearing clothes and sucking cock on demand, you still can go on the computer all day and do the rest of your human things?I'd actually say that is still in the realm of what we're talking about here, I'd still call you a slave, even if pet is more on the mark. That dependence and attachment is the core emotion here, and I also think something like that is perhaps more the reality even the slave girls themselves should expect, at least early on. One of the reasons why I do suspect plenty of Master's on here are just girlies who have had their mind melted by the NEET lifestyle is that this kind of sexuality just kind of works that way, I doubt you could want to be the slave in this equation and be all that sane. Same reason why I get really concerned when one of these things gets a bout of depression and suddenly isn't able to play the videogames as a full time job anymore, even if that seems incongruous with the life both sides want to live.Also >>11383426 has a good philosophy. Being a slave isn't being worked to death in the mines, it's basically just domestic chores but without dignity. Your average slave also probably lived in her own depression nest before being enslaved, domestic toil for sure wasn't happening when she was living for herself, living for someone else does change a lot of things.
>>11382168Same, I think the whole slave psychology thing is really boring. Much hotter when slaves are just normal people who've fallen from grace.There would have to be a whole procedure for degrading and breaking these slaves, and even after being broken, they'd know what they'd lost as they begrudgingly endure a life as property.
How do you fall from grace if you were never there in the first place though?I think being a slave would be one of the most fulfilling things in my life because I could atleast be of use in some way. I feel like i'm too clumsy stupid to be given any job or household task that isn't sexual relief. What kind of slave would you even turn a 5ft autistic neet girl into?
>>11383585>too clumsy stupid>5ft autistic neet girlI mean you say that but then that's also the primary type of girl I want to enslave. If your life is a failure then devoting it to Master actually makes you more valuable since that devotion means you can be shaped by His will even further. Ive had enough public psychodrama hours, I'm tired in so many different ways, but being so small ontop of just a gigantic girlfailure makes you even better for personal domestic service. Even if you're absolutely garbage at such domestic tasks, Master's power will remake you, and its even more of a demonstration of His will if your starting point is even worse than the back end of the slave market that's getting turned into fertilizer tomorrow morning. Trying and failing to clean His home, one day you won't fail so much, since you're on your knees with Him looming over you every single day.
>>11383616This is actually more motivating than anything a therapist has ever said to me.
>>11383627Therapists will tell you to build internal strength and not to rely upon other people and look that's just not how slaves are. You can tell that to the autistic neet boyfailure but the dom version who wants to build a better life, but not the thing that knows she is meant to be a chair when she grows up.
>>11383386Being a loot slave has the best of both worlds; I'm treated like a dumb animal, AND I get to do simple things like carry Master's stuff and pull his cart around.
>>11384009Even just carrying Master's stuff is good for a slave. It's very simple, it's hard for even them to fuck up, and they get to feel useful to their Master, which is their purpose in life. Personally I like to force mine to even hold my drink when she has no other duties. Only taking it from her hand to sip on it, it's much easier than having to discipline and instruct her on how to mop my floors properly for the 10th time.
What are some online story-sites and or image sites that you know of?
>>11383187How does this guy manage to be posting around the clockLiterally any hour of the day he's there to hijack the thread with ChatGPT promptsThe slavery thread used to actually feel alive and like there were multiple people actually using it
>>11384213Oh boy, I love stories. Stories are the reason I enjoy this slavery fetish and I'm always looking for new ones to read. Off the top of my head here are some sites you can use to search for stories, with some notes>https://www.literotica.com/stories/THE erotica website. Just head over to the BDSM or the NonConsent/Reluctance categories but you can also sometimes find domination stories for instance in the Lesbian category so you can use the somewhat good tag system to find what you're looking for.>https://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/Good tag system. Pretty much dead since 2019, no updates.>https://www.thefetlibrary.com/This is a website I recently found and I haven't had the time to really explore. Looks good with a decent tag system.>https://www.utopiastories.com/stories.htmlUnfortunately dead for years now.>https://www.sexstories.comTerrible design and that's saying something because most of these sites are very basic, text heavy sites. Somewhat decent tag system.>https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/themousepad/stories-f72/This is a forum for feet fetishists but because domination fits so well with that fetish, some of the stories are relevant to the slavery fetish.>https://lady2maid.blogspot.com/This is a blog that features stories with a particular twist: a girl losing her status and becoming a maid or slave. >https://www.wattpad.com/>https://archiveofourown.org/>https://www.fanfiction.net/These websites I have never liked though I know they are big and popular. Most of the stories I found on Wattpad were really poor, like 4 or 5 paragraphs per chapter type of thing. As for AO3 I find the tag system very cumbersome and difficult to find something good, but I'm sure you can find if you search for it. Same for FanFiction>nifty.orgThis website mostly deals with LGBT stories but there are some categories like "Authoritarian" or "BDSM" you can explore in the Lesbian section for instance.Next post I'll share some specific stories
>>11384309Here are some personal favorites, I do save them on a text file because I don't want to lose them. And even then I just noticed that some of the links I had saved no longer work! I should have archived the stories. A quick note on the bdsmlibrary.com website, sometimes it goes down for a couple of days hopefully it comes back up but I'm sure it will one day not return.My very ownhttp://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=9317Slaves Of The Copper Coasthttp://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=9785Anne and Aliciahttp://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=258Exposed to the Bottomhttps://www.literotica.com/s/exposed-to-the-bottom-ch-01Learning to Servehttps://www.literotica.com/s/learning-to-serve-2The Sun in her Skyhttps://www.literotica.com/s/the-sun-in-her-sky-ch-01Autumn Labyrinthhttps://www.tapatalk.com/groups/themousepad/autumn-labyrinth-f-f-high-school-best-friends-fict-t165238.htmlRoommates? Friends? Not anymorehttps://www.tapatalk.com/groups/themousepad/roommates-friends-not-anymore-f-f-t189572.htmlI also ran out of space in the previous post and I couldn't include this website. This is a forum where people share erotica piracy (you know like simpcity but for erotic literature and comics). Always use some sort of popup blocker or ublock when visiting these types of websites, they often survive by having popup ads (I do run ublock so I don't even know if that's the case here).https://forum.allporncomix.com/forums/bdsm-femdom-erotic-literature.18/
>>11384213I usually prefer playing h-games, though good ones with a slave MC or slavery story route aren't exactly common, sadly.
>>11384322>The Sun in her SkyI'll have to properly finish that one and maybe go through a few others, because damn is that really good. If that title didn't stick out to me the fact it that it starts with a disclaimer of it being very emotionally abusive was more than enough to know that the author knows full well how BDSM is so often just emotionally overwhelming. BDSM library still is kill, one day it will be gone for good probably, yeah. I think I remember a story there that spoke to me in a similar way, mostly centered on a slave to a rich man who was able to give her the dream life of being completely live in and having zero agency. All of this stuff is lesbian and I must admit being a girl and being athletic in high school are equally unrelatable, but fuck is it good to see so much from the doms point of view, having this master plan of corruption, the end goal of that kind of dependence feels just heavenly, although I can understand how it doesn't make for good storytelling if you're being horny responsibly and actually communicate deeply what you're trying to do. And, y'know, the like 10 other ways that story is pretty dark in reality.Really good idea to actually save the full stories by the way. They lied to you, when you put something on the internet it isn't actually there forever. Actual text files are a lot easier to archive at least, there's some Half Life 2 machinima thing I liked that was uploaded to Google Video in 2006 and I am positive it exists nowhere. A full copypasta of all the old favourites would not be the worst.
>>11382200In my made up setting you would be able to own women and trade them in an ostensibly free market but this being Britain you would be legally required to tag them in the same way as cows or sheep. So "Rachel Brown" would become UK-0000002-001005 for example. Country code, county parish holding number (this ties stock to a given holding) and finally individual number. Prosecutions over incorrectly tagged stock and constant debating in parliament and DEFRA as to what slaves are exempt (with increasingly strenuous conditions on slaves that are not exempt). I would tag all my slaves and keep them in identical webbing harnesses that hug the waist and lift up the breasts. Go all in on the hucow aesthetic. I would keep one or two slaves relatively human (despite them technically being marked as livestock) to help me oversee the herd and make them wear cute long skirts when not helping manage the herd. During farm inspections I would make these two strip and get in with the rest of my slaves so they feel extra awkward.Women being milked or bred generally have profiles on a national database that can be acessed by scanning a QR on their tag or tattooed just above their pubic mound. This profile shows the slave in a series of embarrassing poses showcased like livestock. It also lists hight, weight, age, ethnicity, breast size, hipline, waistline, temperament, health and neurological conditions. Additionally it shows milk output levels and has links to the pages of offspring and a family tree for traceability. Like actual British farming, this will be an ostensible private breed association/club that basically everyone involved in slave keeping in the local or national area is in on.Farmers with high intensity slave farms typically tattoo the slave number and barcode/QR code on the right buttock, lower abdomen, left shank, and left shoulder to really sell the livestock look.>>11382493You would like my system
>>11381897I wonder how Master would tell me to get in the cage. Feet first means that my head and chest are facing anyone who walks by like in your pic. Or maybe I will be told to get in head first so that I can't see who passes by while they leer at me and maybe stop to inspect at my exposed bottom and possibly agitate me while I'm helplessly locked away.I hope Master is quick. I don't like being separated from him for too long.
>>11384856Depends on the Master's mood,Maybe He will drag us into the cage by our hair if Master so He can attend more important matters, but if He has time then He will just point inside and watch us awkwardly shuffle backwards. Then we're totally helpless to be poked and prodded whilst waiting for Master to retrieve us either by clipping the leash back onto our collar or our ankle binds to drag us out depending on which way we entered
>>11379705In my mind, the credit and blame of a slave's actions belongs to her direct overseer. Her overseer is the only one who would even care to reward her for good behavior if she felt inclined to. Even if the slave misbehaves in a very public way, most eyes turn to her overseer since she clearly can't control her slaves. This form of accountability is important because the overseer's fate needs to be tied to what kind of slaves she can produce. She'll use whatever tools she can to perfect the science of slave training. If an overseer fails at providing good slaves for her superiors, there's another overseer above her, with access to much fancier torture equipment, who will teach her the importance of her job.Slaves do things. Overseers do things through those under them. That's the difference.
>>11384856Personally I think its only right for a slave to face out the cage in whatever direction her Master would likely appear to retrieve her. Seeing her face light up when she gets sight of me, the fact they tend to actually literally cry like a nervous dog if I stop to talk to someone. It's cute. >>11385061I'm usually already in a pretty bad mood when I need to be at a establishment that won't let slaves kneel alongside people. Like I get that plenty of slaves are malicious ontop of being stupid, but that's a training issue. Dragging a slave in or out has a high chance of happening. Some of the cheaper places will have something more like a slave pen for slaves to stay in. That does mean its fun to literally throw a slave down in there, but it also depends on the complete strangers she's imprisoned with if they're the type to bully her or not. Usually they are.
>>11384842sounds a bit like what i was aiming for here >>11382492 but the being forced into making a portfolio of humiliating poses is a must.How do you think the main herd will react to the oversees being stripped and put amongst them during inspections, and go into more about the timespan of the breeding.>>11383578The psychology does have potential, like how >>11383386 sounds like a bratty bottom, but me and >>11383585 feel like natural fodder? and how would you domesticate the three of us differently
>>11385749Okay, serious question, is it possible to make cheese or ice cream from human milk or is it to thin compared to bovine milk?
>>11385794Possible yes, more the issue that there's not enough of it to make dairy products in an meaningful quantity at least with just 1 woman.Not even enough for the level of household consumption. Now with slaves and modern hormone therapy that might be different.
>>11385818Stooop, I already have a hucow thread deprivation.
>Own a slave.>she's not too bad. >Does as she's told most of the time. Isn't the worst to look at, which is good since she hasn't worn clothes since I bought her at the market 4 months ago>Only a little bit weird>As in, she begs to be executed for failing me every single time I need to discipline her>"perfect and flawless service is what such a Divine and Superior Being deserves, Master! please allow me to pay for my insolence, Master!">Not the worst...>Does not bite strangers nearly as much as I thought she would, and rarely bites free people. >Quite a good girl, comparatively.
>>11385918It's just a little bite, nothing weird about it. Doesn't even leave scars. Usually.
>>11385995It's not a "i hate you and want to kill you!" bite, it's a "show proper respect to Master!" bite. Most of the time.Honestly I just don't leave slaves like that unsupervised so it rarely has time to progress to a "rot in hell you ungrateful bitch!" bite. Can always muzzle her if it gets to be a problem.
https://www.literotica.com/s/girls-and-bridle-ch-01https://www.literotica.com/s/hightail-university-sera-pt-11Enjoy
I'm going to add to the pile.A mafia boss kidnaps a convenience store worker and makes her a pet. The writing is extremely realistic and believable. To the point where I consider it a genuine cognitohazard. Probably the second most fucked up thing I have ever read. But it's so good, and so hot. If you like brutal training you'll like it.https://archiveofourown.org/works/59239375There are other stories that come to mind, but all of them pale in comparison to this one.Also, another anon like three threads ago recommended "The Dominance Playbook" by Anton Fulmen. It's not smut, more like relationship advice and a guide for how to treat submissives to maximize mutual enjoyment. But it's really really good. It helped me a lot when I was learning how to top.
>>11382200Numbers are important for dehumanizing bureaucracy, of course but masters shouldn't be required to memorize some long barcode. That's why you come up with cute pet names. Her hair color is a classic one or just name her after something like Bacardi. Slaves are a product for your own enjoyment after all.Really a name isn't super necessary until you have more than one slave, you call someone's name to get their attention but your slave should already be focused on you at all times, a snap of the fingers should correct her if she slips up.
>>11384842I like the cut of your jib, anon.It would be especially useful to ban the use of human names for slaves. Ideally a slave should even forget their name. Numbers are the only allowable identification.What sorts of slaves would be exempt? I have a hard time imagining why any would be.
>>11386258I'm reading it and liking it so far
>>11386500Master could simply just number his slaves as well, I wouldn't mind hearing an order like ¨go clean the kitchen number 4.¨It's somehow hotter knowing that I'm so unimportant that Master can't be bothered to even give me a name. I prefer that, feeling less like a individual person, and more of a dumb submissive thing that Master happens to own.
>>11386258that was so hot, do you have any other recs?
>>11386910We need more stories in here
>>11386910For a story "In which a girl sets out to find out just how thoroughly she can give herself away." I recommend Enthusiastic Consent by ImpossibleArchitect. It is extremely wholesome and extremely autistic. It's been on hiatus for a while pending the completion of the author's physics phd, which I believe he just finished, and is now recovering from burnout. More will come eventually. I recommend everything he has ever written. It is very good.https://archiveofourown.org/works/22306660/Conbini Girl was #2, the #1 most fucked up thing I've read is WARHOUND by Kallidora Rho, and it isn't close. Much much more fucked up. Not really a slavery story, just similar vibes. It's about the way brains work, how people process stress and praise and trauma, and how to abuse this to bend and break and brainwash people. The plot of the story is the main character discovering this knowledge, using it, learning on the fly, and the knowledge corrupting her. The view inside the characters' heads is extremely realistic like Conbini Girl is, and because you learn with the viewpoint character (part 4) it basically gives you a step by step guide. Rape scenes hit different when it's the viewpoint character as the rapist and you totally understand why she's doing it. It's a long novel, quite a bit of it is available on AO3, but if you want the full thing you can go to her Patreon or buy the physical book (which is what I have done).https://archiveofourown.org/works/48577036
Public psychodrama posting isn't the best but I fear that one of the slaves around here is either in a mental hospital or has attempted to execute herself without permission. Failing at the latter and ending up in the former would be better, it's somewhat difficult for Master to rebuild you otherwise, that's not her decision to make for a reason. It's been so long since ive been there I don't even know if its realistic to have a smartphone or something, but slaves and mental illness go together like forced nudity and cocksucking. Just need to be patient with them, and understand what you're getting into by being the sun that lights up one of these thing's entire world. You'll both be fine.>>11386869As far as slave names go I think it'd be a great demonstration of the adage "slaves don't get to decide anything". Having some registration number would be essential, but what slaves are referred to should be up to who owns her, and that means that slaves could expect all manner of things. A number, a humiliating name, even her human name or just renamed to another human name of Master's choosing, the only thing a slave should expect is to have no choice. she might not even get a unique identifier at all. Personally when enslaving a girl for the first time I'd assign her the name of "dirt". If she's sold alongside others they might get accompanying simple but still degrading names, "beg" and "toil" are possibilities. she can earn a better one, or be punished by a much worse one. Maybe "dirt" actually fits her, she has the rest of her life to show her personality to me. "dirt" will be fitting for most slaves regardless.
>>11381903>>11381917>>11382189I was reading this one story on Ao3 few months ago (Sorry I don't remember the name) about few girls playing hardcore VRMMO. twist of this MMO was that when players were not online, their characters would be piloted by an AI and act as an NPCs in the world. And the mechanics of the game allowed players to get stuck in unwinnable positions like as a slave. They could play as a slave and hope for a chance to get free, create a new character to try to free their character or just abandon it, start from beginning and resign to the fate that you might occasionally see your old character sucking dicks in a brothel or something.I don't know why but the idea that you could see your old "failed" characters in a world was really hot for me.
You fuckers are influencing my mind. I dreamt that I and two other women started a game, and we tried to enter some sort of cheat codes or otherwise make the mission trivially easy, I think by entering all at once, but the game anticipated it, and immediately when we entered, it put collars on us, and some guy held our leashes. So the mission became incredibly difficult, the men were laughing, now first we had to break free, and I felt horribly terrified and lost. The dream ended quickly because of those feelings- I woke up.What's scary is that even though everything in your dream is created by your mind, I had no control, i really felt like a slave. Thoughts? Similar experiences?
>>11387623>Have a old thief character I haven't played in a while>Honestly not that great at stealth>Have to scroll all the way to the bottom to find that she has been renamed "stain">Oh no not again>Must have gotten caught trying to rob some noblemans estate>Doesn't even get to suck cock that much, she's so low level she mostly just cleans and barely cooks>This dudes a pretty important questgiver, but stain is so low rung it's really tough for other characters to even see her>she also isn't beaten down enough to stop her AI from trying to escape quite yet>Had to search for like 20 minutes on my mage character before I found stain in the pillories out backIve heard of people who played Morrowind back in the day and would mod in a house for their old character to retire to when that playthrough was over. Not sure why I haven't heard of people doing it too much in the past 20 years, probably because making that stuff yourself is hard. Having to occasionally kick over more "bad end" old characters would be fun though. There could be a idea here for having permadeath actually, could clear out a bandit cave a previous character was defeated by, leading to your new character "rescuing" your old character from slavery. In reality its more like they have the honour of serving someone better now, but come on now, they shouldn't have expected mercy.>>11387687Now you see what's going on here is that dreams are surreal nightmarescapes and now that you've got slavery on your mind, that is reflected in the dreams. It happens to a lot of people. Personally I dread when I wake up and I haven't actually enthralled anyone.What is not happening is that people in this thread are psionically torturing you and causing the need to serve to worm its way deep inside you. That would be foolish to suggest such a thing. Totally not real.
>>11387623>They could play as a slave and hope for a chance to get freeBut that's when the fun starts though. Uh, at least for me.
>>11387687>>11387709>Psionic tortureActually I really shouldn't fuck around with that. It feels bad enough when I wake up from those dreams that it totally feels authentic that could be what's actually going on. Not only do slaves like that feel everything with more intensity, but the dreams they would have must be even more soul crushing. Having actual solid memories of kneeling and looking directly into the eyes of someone might actually be enough to make you feel like you're sharing that same nightsmarescape with them in some way. Believing you just bound your soul together even a little bit is a better thing to imagine than feeling ground down by reality. >>11387735It'd be nice to make it a option in character creation. Otherwise the moment I got a high level character I'd have to stop a decent amount of level 1 adventurers attempting to do some sort of raid on my home. Look I know im some successful wizard with a tower full of priceless magical artifacts but you gotta at least successfully steal something good in order to be enslaved. If I grabbed everyone who tried and failed to even take a fork I'd have thousands of slaves.
HEY! I saw that weird stealth bump with the ahsoka picture. Idk why you would do stuff like that but they even let her have a little bed instead of being forced to sleep on the floor. Presumably it was right to delete the post since that would just make the slave super ungrateful, there's a reason why you treat strong warrior types even worse.
>>11386946eh that one didnt float my boat personally. the 2 geniuses thing was too much
>>11388548For some reason technobabble arouses me. Especially when an extreme amount of effort is put into it. Call it the autism, I guess. I be chugging the Tylenol fr fr.Also I really need my ass beat and to spend some time on my knees, but I have to miss the dungeon event tonight. I have to wait a few days. It will be a hard few days.
>>11387687Lucky you, it's been years since I last saw a dream where I was a slave. All I remember from it is that I was a harem slave in some desert palace and my overseer/trainer kept yelling at me telling me to hurry up and do my work. Then I was ordered to run to some other room nearby, and kneel in front of Master's guest there, who had just arrived and give him the usual "welcoming blowjob".Needless to say I was mad when I woke up shortly after that and realized it was just a nice dream.
>>11388704They always sting when you wake up, honestly the most recent one for being a Master had a major theme of walking through just the most dystopian female slavery world possible and trying to find some good girl to save from a much worse fate. Giving people welcoming blowjobs is way better than "public torture installations" every 50 meters. There's just no way to stop yourself from psychoanalyzing that for ages.
I think this one has awakened something in me.For context, Arle here has been captured to be sold as a slave on a market catered to evil wizards. As part of her preparation, her tongue is forced out and branded with a control rune, rendering her unable to disobey whoever the rune's attuned to. She screams in pain, the slaver tells her to be quiet, she instantly stops screaming and can no longer make a sound. That's all well and good, but what gets me is that her tongue is left like that, pinned down to put her control brand on display to a clientele likely to know what it does. And that's so fucking hot. Magical brands and tattoos advertised as perks of your purchase, extra features added on to the slave, arranged in such a way to present them as such. You could do it with accessories or non-visible spells too! Imagine a slave standing in the market, completely naked, miserable or defiant but strangely not restrained at all. Her hands humiliatingly form a heart around some pubic tattoo. When asked what her deal is, she's dutifully explains, compelled by the spells to answer such questions no matter how little she wants to. Maybe tell her potential buyer that if he stands in this spot or says these words, that control will be temporarily extended to him as well as sort of a free sample. Anyone else feeling this? Help me out here.
>>11389069>"evil" wizardI am subjugating these pathetic bitches beneath me for good reasons but yes, I can see what's going on there. Even if it's a decently sized drain on magical power its still a fantastic demonstration of that power. There's the usual form of brainwashing that makes Master feel all powerful over your tiny existence and then there's just being a actual fucking wizard. A good wizard. You're being bent to his will by power unimaginable to your small mind since its what you deserve. Do not be mistaken, that is a punishable offence, and the skies the limit with what kind of torture a slave can be forced to inflict on herself if magic works that way.
My girl asked me when I'm going to keep her blind again. She gets so smiley and deliciously subbie when she can't see. If it were practical, I'd keep her all soft in the dark all the time.
>>11389318Just fuck a blind person at that point.
>>11389402They're too competent. This just puts her into subspace almost instantly.She's not very good at anything domestic in them yet. Loading the dishwasher must've taken her over half an hour, but you don't need to see to keep my dick wet. A leash helps though.
>>11389318Get her those blackout contact lenses
>>11386946>It's about the way brains work, how people process stress and praise and trauma, and how to abuse this to bend and break and brainwash peopleThis is my favorite part of slavery. Can you recommend any other content that covers this?
>>11389641I did. It was so cute in public. and when we got home, she was almost a little sad to take them out. Said it was like waking up from a dream.
Blogposting disclaimer #XVII, but that slave who sticks around here that I had concerns about might still be alive. That was enough to give me a good mental health day today at least.>>11389318Your slave just sounds so sweet. she certainly earns the title of "my girl", might even feel wrong to give a slave like that a demeaning name. I'm not surprised that domestic service is especially hard, anything that isn't cocksucking would probably suffer greatly. I'm sure with a lot of training she could get pretty good at certain domestic tasks, and any slave would love to visibly show just how devoted they are doing things for Master literally with their eyes closed.Overseeing her trying to feel around and do her best while completely blind would just make my heart melt, she probably wouldn't get any actual work done since I'd just be headpatting her too much. Just adorable.
>>11390534>she probably wouldn't get any actual work done since I'd just be headpatting her too much. Just adorable.Its true. I'm spoiling her rotten, but it's too cute not to do. I love how, as much as she tries to anticipate, she doesn't know when she's going to be touched or where, something as simple as a nose boop or a kiss, there's always a tiny element of surprise that startles her.
>>11390837Hnngh.God slaves are so cute. They are just things that are meant to serve, but that just makes spoiling them like that even more adorable. That's a girl that is truly head empty, no thoughts, only Master.
>>11390873It really is. She made coffee and brought it into my office for a kiss, and then went to sort papers, both of which would have been a disaster if she couldn't see.
>>11390884Those scenes of just day to day domestic service, god one day. I do wonder what tasks could even be done to a high standard in a reasonable amount of time completely blind like that. It might take a long time to even train to half of where she would be with sight, if that. Doing all of this service in exchange for a smile and a kiss is still absolutely what a slave dreams of, just doing it completely blind is even more of a dream. Do you actually kiss her on the mouth? It feels strange to kiss a slave like you would a lover, I much prefer the soft dehumanization of just kissing her forehead when being affectionate.
>>11390926>might take a long time to even train to half of where she would be with sight, if that.For one thing, I don't want her to become too competent. Her being unsure of herself and trying her best is too adorable. There are some obvious limitations to keeping her blind full-time, it's more of a sensory treat for her, so of course there will be plenty of affection and pets, which she experiences even more strongly without the distraction of sight.I already know what I want to do to her when she's blind, and not even fucking. I'm going to sit her down and feed her carrot cake (and okay, possibly my dick, depending on the mood). I'm not going to break her immersion simply because I'm horny.
>>11390956I can see a slave being upset about not actually being of good service during such tasks, but the point of it would really be the performance of being so vulnerable for Master, I'm sure she understands it doesn't matter that much if she can't actually do her tasks properly. Handfeeding her carrot cake sounds wonderful, I presume it is handfeeding. A good idea would be to lead her around a bit before sitting her down. Maybe do a few laps of your home, just to help disorient her and increase that reliance. Especially if you're guiding her to kneel on the floor while you're doing this instead of a specific piece of furniture, it could be anywhere.
>>11389069There used to be threads on /d/ about lewd curse tattoos, cursed equipment, negative status changes etc stuff, and I loved those threads. Just the idea of being an adventurer and making one mistake changes your life forever. Like equipping some questionable armor that you found in a dungeon because the stats were good, only to find out it transforms in some bondage slave equipment the second you put it on.>class changed to level 1 Slave>hp is now 10>strengh is now 1 (no weapon equipped)>defence is now 1>auto-traveling now to: Slave marketAnd so on.
>>11390967>point of it would really be the performance of being so vulnerableIt really is. It brings out her subbie side, but at the same time, I'll admit it bring out the carer in me. It's a good dynamic I've never had before, so i'm trying to not fuck it up. Even the bondage has been light, wrists behind with soft cotton belt from a robe.A good idea would be to lead her around a bit before sitting her downI would put them in her eyes in the bathroom and guide her into the living room and then have her sit on the floor against the love seat, so she has a little back support. Its helpful that she's against a solid object, that gives her a sense of grounding when she can't see.
>>11391037>bring out the carer in me>i'm trying to not fuck it upAgain, she sounds so sweet. You seem to be treating her quite well, this level of intentional care alongside a still extremely obvious gap in power is a great slavery dynamic to have. A lot of slaves still want that immense torture and cruelty, I'm continually surprised by how deep it goes for a lot of them, so even if she is just impossibly sweet its important to not let that stop you from treating her how she really deserves. They often don't want full softness all the time and many girls who self-identify as slaves also have extreme trouble communicating with their betters. She seems very happy though, so you're doing good taking care of her and her servile mind. >back against the love seatI actually do use a love seat as my main computer chair. That is 100% just for a tiny dog to spend a good chunk of her life sleeping directly next to me, but still. I think mine is a bit lower than usual but that would still give her support as opposed to just floating in the middle of the floor. Actually if you can find a position where she can kneel up against the loveseat while you're there, especially between your legs, and have a way to comfortably handfeed her while she's still braced up against the seat instead of kneeling before it, then that's a one way ticket to submissive heaven. What a good girl.
Yeah not gonna lie, this lame blind play talk makes me limp like a noodle.
>>11391219Your limp dick is flaccid and shall not survive what is to come. The hard times have only just begun.
>>11389645It sounds like what you're looking for is in fact The Dominance Playbook. Again, big recommend.Also I would just recommend talking to a lot of people about what makes them tick. Online is good, irl even better.As far as smut, there's Taimanin Training Plan, which pushed a lot of good buttons for me. Sadly a QQ account is required. But nothing else comes to mind. I'm out of stories. I'll finally get to reading some of the ones other people posted.https://forum.questionablequesting.com/threads/taimanin-training-plan-taimanin-series-oc-mc.18903/
>>11390534>the slave that sticks around here might still be aliveElaborate? I used to talk with her a bit here and have wondered a while if she's okay.
>>11391431Basically what's going on is that I tracked down her steam profile back in June, and sent her a friend request. The silver lining is that I for sure found the right one this time, since it's been pending since then, and her hours in playing the videogames dropped to 0 overnight. My worry about causing a mental health crisis from that alone was not helped by checking on her profile like 20 times a day, but to control the yandere I suppose it's good to have a bit of it yourself. She was doing a bit better the past few months, played the videogames, even managed to get similar high scores to what I saw before I sent it. Around September she started falling off again, and that worry got a lot worse when it's extremely rare for her to be offline at all, much less for a week and a half~. My concern was the full progression of the crisis to the mental hospital after having a long time to stew on her feelings, but she did just go back online that Sunday. So, y'know, might still be alive. Maybe someone kicked over her computer or something, idk, computers are weird and we should have never progressed beyond the abacus. Launching a videogame would be more of a proof of life, she hasn't done that, but I understand how her mind probably has a lot more going on. She actually has a immense amount of hours in all of the Fallout's except the one my steam avatar is cropped from, makes me think it might have been too painful since Ive had that for over a decade now. That's a big chunk of blogposting but maybe some people appreciate the platonic ideal of slaves being baskets of mental illness who yearn to serve and worship people who are only maybe 20% less crazy. Poor slave for sure knows that life after being rejected by Master isn't worth living, makes complete sense she's terrified, that's a lot to put on someone when no matter how hard you try it will still be true.
>>11391264>shall not survive what is to comewhat is to come?
What a good slave! I knew saying that outloud would have the desired effect, for sure alive. It's honestly weird to do this out in public so that's enough for now. >>11391783Soft limp dicks create hard times. The hard times never stop, history is fully erect, forever. Nah honestly I just wanted to have fun making fun of someone. Nothing more to it than setting it up for that follow up. It is funny that Steam started having what I think is now reported as DDOS issues within 5 minutes of me posting that though. slaves generally do have hard lives though, so it is largely true that the erect times never even began for them, they always lived that way.
>>11391783Hopefully not more mediocrity.
>>11391807im not sure who you think you're talking to but slaves do generally have to take the hard times given to them
Meow? Meow.
>>11392379slaves generally don't have a choice in hard times, its true. Even if things were going great for them, which is a big if, wanting to be so dependent on someone still leads to fear of it all going away. That's enough blogposting, I'm just happy that she's alive, but yeah just being the kind of person that goes for this extreme lifestyle makes life a struggle. >>11392393Yes. Usually I chase off those stray neko slaves rooting through my garbage for scraps but if they've figured out they can chain themselves to my front door then they aren't going to be free ever again.
>>11392399this one is not your steam slave, Master
>>11392399>they can chain themselves to my front doorMy genius secret plan was succesful. And all it took was a collar and some chain. Now all I need is a cozy corner to sleep in and food and water bowls, and I'm set for life, meow.
Since you're being a good slave using the slave typing dialect I taught you this would be flattie, correct? I don't know how many of these slaves are truly kicking around, probably more than 2. You're still a good girl no matter what is stopping you from actually surrendering, just empty out that head and remember that you're just a slave, you were never meant for this, the fear you have is natural.
>>11392452Your genius secret plan actually did work, turns out all slaves need to do is just be too dumb to have fear rule over them instead of Master. I have a few old blankets you can rest on, they probably smell a lot like me, go and pile them up in the corner. You'll have to drink your water out of a human bowl until your feeding bowl arrives in the mail. Until then your food is off the floor, make sure its clean.
>>11392474From the floor? Guess I'll manage. Now then, time to stare at Master. This seems like a good spot.
>>11392513Aw, I am glad that I don't let slaves wear clothes but you're only permitted to do that for a hour. After that you either need to get down and kneel underneath the desk or nervously peer from the doorway like your chestlet sister likes to do. Master's furniture isn't for you.
God slaves are lucky they're too dumb to be meaningfully held accountable for anything. It starts and ends at being disciplined for their insolence. Don't let anybody tell you its actually right to be upset at these things, they aren't the same as you.
>>11382461They're lowballing me. But I appreciate that they degraded themselves such for the sake of this boytoy (at this moment I squeeze his ass). Since you love him so much and have already sacrificed this much, why don't you join him as my slaves? You'll live together, work together, and I'll even let you three to have one day a month to yourselves. That's the best offer you're going to get.
>>11393084A whole day? Every month? Unsupervised?I would say you're a kinder man than me but then it's actually unkind to leave slaves alone. There's no limit to the amount of trouble they can get up to, its why they need to be under a person's direct control for their entire life. Mom seems like she is actually capable of being smart so that's some heavy duty trouble she can get into. That's a incredibly valuable toy anyways, It'd be best to not let that boy out of your sight for any reason.
>Friends with the daughter of a minor noble house>Well, more than "friends" now>I could tell right away>Her family wasn't that powerful, only had a few slaves, all girls>The way she looked at the slaves that were supposed to be "Her" dirt>Not to mention the overseer...>Oh she folded immediately>Didn't even have to corrupt her that much, straight to her knees>Some big social event is coming up...>If I ordered her to disrobe and suck her new Master's cock right there I know she would>Sobbing the entire time, probably>Her family isn't powerful enough to meaningfully fight back if they were dumb enough to actually try>Poor thing is also going to need to be disciplined for poor service, I doubt she'd be able to focus on her cocksucking duties>she's going to really remember the last time she ever wore something better than the occasional set of rags
>>11391219There's nothing like a naked girl on her knees groping for your cock with her tongue as you tease her cheek with it.
Your well behaved veteran slave has gone to heat and is now desperately begging you every day to make her pregnant. She'll do anything if she can just give birth to Master's child.Now what?
>>11393608Real question should by why you Haven't been breeding her this entire time!
>>11393592Blowjobs are the most fitting way for a slave to have sex. They belong on the floor for a reason. Being blind and not even knowing exactly where the cock you exist to worship is gives me the mind to tease her even more with quietly moving around to make her lose track. God imagine having her entertain a set of guests the same way, crawling around on the floor trying her best to find what she was meant to service. I brag about how good she is to everyone I can, so she really should know that letting me down will have consequences. >>11393608What? Why the fuck do you want to inflict having a slave as a mom onto someone? You can go into the punishment cell for the rest of the day and think about what you did. If you're still unhappy about only sucking cock for the rest of your existence, then that little thing between your legs that does your thinking can be satisfied by enduring just the worst public humiliation possible. If you can beg random strangers to say that you deserve Master's child then maybe you actually will get it one day. False hope is still better than no hope, you know that well, you're a slave.
>>11393614Omega based. Might as well make her happy, she'd probably be cumming her brains out through most of her pregnancy, knowing that Master's child is growing inside her. Slave can't imagine a greater honor than that.
>>11393634Always liked societies where slavery is very stratified with a touch of sexism.>Field/laborslaves are the men and women treated exactly like livestock/tools, they're not for fucking they're for work.>House/domestic slaves Nearly all being women, intact males almost never allowed in master's home.If women are kept fertile either they have a chance a promotion or a field slave can stud for themThe few male house slaves have been turned into enuchs(cock and balls removed).>Top are sex slavesIt's expected for any self respecting man to have at least a few slave women.And being a responsible man if you didn't have their tubes tied it implies you WANT to have children with them.There's exceptionally rare cases of male sex slaves, in which case testicles are always removed or are enuchs.>well make her happy, she'd probably be cumming her brains out through most of her pregnancystratified systems of slavery also open up the brutal and loving sides of slavery.Just depends where in the hierarchy a slave is.>>11393621>Why the fuck do you want to inflict having a slave as a mom onto someone?Could simply be a normalized part of life, what the man at the head of the house says goes.So Free men & women have their legitimate heirs set to inherit.While only the highest ranked slave women are allowed to have children with master, and they're not set to inherit or are the back up.Something like royals(or the rich) having legit heirs, while slave born sons/daughters fill admin or military staff roles.Other examples, your wife is past menopause you still need an heir or some other reason she cant have offspring.
>>11393658IRL it feels wrong to have children anywhere near lifestyle slavery to the point it rubs off on me even when being horny about slavery fantasy world, but I will admit for a slave to be granted the honour of bearing Master's children it would be considered the greatest reward she can get. Even being permitted to be in the same room as Master, to nuzzle Him, to hear His voice or see His eyes directed on you is something a lot of slaves who truly worship their Master treasure. Actually being part of creating new life in His name is even better. Still don't like kids though, I can find some young 21 year old to adopt into the family who probably would be better at running my estate than whatever my mushbrained personal slave pops out anyways.Also as much as I love having thin petite waifs of slave girls forced into hard labour any slave society would clock right away they aren't that great at being farm tools. They still won't ever have a choice, but having my estate be run with women as tools would be a choice sacrificing lots of profitability for my personal enjoyment. House slaves being primarily women unless there's free people there that want men for whatever reason being the norm also tracks. There's still hard tasks around the house that are often necessary, but mine still manage it. A girl can do a lot more than you think when she's bound in chains.
>>11393658Man, I love it when women have just turned into dumb fat baby factories with giant milk leaking tits after multiple pregnancies.
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>>11393677>whatever my mushbrained personal slave pops out anywaysAnother aspect to this for me is the Roman/Greek use of slavery.Where not all slaves are just for menial domestic/labor duties, some male slaves are educated/skilled in a trade and may even run things for their master.Just minus the whole slaves can be freed side of it.Like master owns farmlands worked by lowest ranked labour slaves but their overseers with the whips are slaves themselves.Just they were born into the status of middle ranked/domestic slaves. Or a slave spent their life being educated into a living calculator for the sake of handling admin/accounting for their master./d/ fetish part of that is "creating" these slaves through slave on slave mating.Male slaves are rewarded by being allowed to breed a female domestic slave, with the assurance offspring will fill these cushy positions. Entire bloodlines where men and women are enslaved for these nicer jobs, some living better then lower class free people simply cause master is extremely wealthy.See again Rome with the large wealth gab of rich and poor free peoples.>>11393997>women have just turned into dumb fat baby factoriesSexism for slavery where the middle/top ranked slaves have the most obvious divide in their duties.Women for sex, domestic work, breeding and motherhood.Men mostly for admin, skilled work, middle management for lower ranked slaves and very rarely male sex slaves.
>>11393677I'm actually friends with a couple in a D/s relationship irl who have a kid. The compromise is basically "not in front of the kid." The problem is that kids mimic behavior. So if the kid were to see her dad taking a beating (something he considers a beautiful and benevolent act of kindness) the kid will think that's an okay way to treat other people. The reason why it's okay in this case and beating random people up is not is unfortunately not something you can explain to a child until they're at least a teenager. They will not have the context to understand it. But she does understand that her mom is in charge and her dad is largely an extension of her mom, and she has understood that since she was very young.Unfortunately this approach often leaves the parents unfulfilled. I babysit when they go to the dungeon. Once every other week or so. I taught her makeup and magic the gathering and we watch anime.I'm sort of glad that I'm friends with them, because they're really good parents, and if I ever have a kid or adopt it's great to have good role models.
its almost time for halloweenhow are you decorating your slave?or is your slave the decoration?
>>11395383I'd like to go around spooking Master's guests and giving them candy. Not that I'm very intimidating though...
>>11395383Solidly in "slave is a decoration", I put a lot of work into that nude body, any rags she's given will always be a compromise with reality, but perhaps a little bit of decoration could be fun. Decoration for the decoration.>>11395416Yeah that would be a good idea. I could give her a white sheet, I'd rather not spend any money on some costume for her, and order her to act like a ghost and spook all my guests. It'd be fun seeing what she comes up with, probably get a bunch of laughs trying to go "WoOoooOoo", but especially since she'd probably try to pull the sheet up, as if 1. her nude body is meant to be spooky instead of a decoration, and 2. It's not like it's a surprise, forced nudity is the norm, people here might not have even ever seen her with clothes on.It'd be fun though. Especially when she gives people their candy, and maybe one of them even asks her what it's like, and of course she has to say something like "i'm just a slave Sir, i'm not permitted to eat stuff like that, but i bet its yummy~!"
>>11393621>Blowjobs are the most fitting way for a slave to have sex. They belong on the floor for a reason.They truly are. Without any distractions, they can just pacifically suck, like the whole world is your cock.>God imagine having her entertain a set of guests the same wayOh no, I'm not sharing.
>>11393482I love the "noblewoman becomes a slave" slavery trope. I especially like it when she's initially resistant, because she was sold to pay off her family's debts/some other reason, and slowly has to cope with the loss of her status as a human and the fact that she will never again wear the fine silks of nobility, but rather the barely-concealing rags of a slave (if even that). The heavy collar at her neck is a constant reminder that from now until her death, her flesh is simply the property of another, no matter how desperately she may wish to be returned her freedom.
>>11395745It shows how much she's fallen, that she very clearly remembers what clothing felt like. The rags are a cruel mockery of what she thought she was meant for, feeling the harshness on her skin, being nude would often be preferable. Having to kneel in the dirt next to slaves that once would have knelt before her, who for sure would never understand just how soft her finery was, it hits harder knowing that many of those beside her have never known a better life. That heavy collar that constrains her every breath still does the same to her as every other thing, for the first time in her life she is not treated as anything special or even different. Her slave sisters can dream of a life of freedom, she remembers and longs for a life of freedom. It's delightful, even if I do prefer the corruption method of a noblewoman who just can't stop dripping looking at her servants, and not in the way she's supposed to.
>Own a slave>she has extreme separation anxiety, way more than usual>I could lock her up in a tight cage to stop her from causing problems, but that doesn't feel right>she didn't do anything wrong, she just misses her Master!>Instead, turn on "24/7 LIVE: Cat TV for Cats to Watch" for her whenever I have to leave for even 5 minutes>Between chirping at the birds and crying at her little Master Shrine, it helps calm her down>she still has a absolute freakout when Master returns, but she's maybe 30% better at handling it now>Life as a slave is hard in many unexpected ways
Selectively breeding slaves was a mistake.
Man, look at her struggle to maintain her composure in the face of this humiliation. That clenched fist, those tight lips, her eyes hard. She's trying so hard not to show how miserable is, not wanting to give you that satisfaction, and is failing juuuust barely enough to be cute as hell. See, this is what I want in a slave. Now, let's grab that clit-leash, give it a nice tug, and take her for the usual walk around the estate to inspect her day's work. >>11391030Yeah, those were great. Not exactly what I have in mind there, but that>auto-traveling now to: Slave marketbit really gets me going. I love body control traps that force them to walk into their own enslavement. Imagine some slave market down the road to some dungeon. Some arrogant lady-knight heroine scoffs at all the chattel for sale there, "hmph!"s away the leers from the staff. Maybe if she'd payed a little more attention she'd have noticed the knowing looks in their eyes, already sizing her up for when she comes marching right back out an on to the block.
>>11396597need more seething defiant slaves thats for sure
>>11395383>>11395416Slave gets a scary mask that she can't take off on her own.Picture her completely naked aside from a skull mask that's locked onto her head.As a bonus, it keeps the little idiot from eating all the candy.
>>11396494Yeah mine sure is "overbred". I mean, I do like slaves that are anxiety-ridden, petite, absolutely obsessive in their worship, and so on. It's just perhaps selecting for those traits was always going to end with them being messed up. >>11396987The mask is a good idea. I would consider handfeeding her some candy at the end of the day as as reward, and that helps her actually be good enough to earn it. Now, the mask being in any way scary looking when its basically impossible for the rest of her servile naked body to be intimidating in any way is a fun contrast. And she can't even bite anyone! It's a win/win.
>>11397209>I would consider handfeeding her some candy at the end of the day as as reward,Of course I'm gonna handfeed her, what kind of monster do you take me for?
>>11395796>Her slave sisters can dream of a life of freedom, she remembers and longs for a life of freedom. It's delightful, even if I do prefer the corruption method of a noblewoman who just can't stop dripping looking at her servants, and not in the way she's supposed to.Tell me more, anon.
>>11397985Of course. You're aware of the difference in lifestyles between a noble and a slave, surely. Even that noblewoman dripping all over the floor intimately knows, but to have the sheer shock of having no choice but to live that way hit you like a ton of bricks is a sight to behold. Your purpose in life is now to be comfort, and as such you are not afforded any. All that furniture? Not for you. You belong on the cold hard ground, why would a chair want to sit on a chair? But you also aren't going to have much time to look forlorn at even just a uncomfortable little stool that is too much comfort for you, since former nobles are given even less rest. The only special treatment ever afforded to such things is only to break them further. Oh you remember what freedom is? You'll only be given 4 hours of sleep until you don't. If there's not enough work, then make it. Clean Master's home from top to bottom, over and over again. Feeling upset about being forced to wipe down the same completely clean corner with a dry cloth? Well, Master can take into account the fact that you chose this life, when his slaves wake him and he checks the surveillance and discovers just how seething you are. Plenty of people would have known even a minor noblewoman. For sure a few in the market at any given time would have seen her somewhere. This makes any punishable mistake the perfect time to beat her to within a inch of her life out in the public square. Force her to scream her denial that she was even a person, that to be dirt that Master molds into whatever he desires was always her destiny, and that her last choice was her only correct choice. Only when Master is completely satisfied that she repented of her last delusions of freedom, can she be treated completely identical to any other slave. Her toil was exceptionally hard and miserable, but now she is rewarded by finally being equally worthless.
I mean does the fact that a bug, walking in a straight line on the surface of any thing it's on, will eventually return to where it started mean that blue eyed men who are red haired and/or brown haired are destined to suck at everything they do due to having less than a percent of each talent there is to have than you have all around because you match all over instead of having your talent circle broken by an opposite color? Does eternal regression mean even the most capable member of my pheno has less than a percent of every kind of talent there is than the member of your pheno with the least talent all around?Like, we aren't capable of knowing our whole social security number and shouldn't be driving?I've been told that because the universe is a Connected circular monad it means a blue eyed male who has red or brown hair is doomed to suck more at everything he does than the least talented brown eyed man? I mean literally less of every one of them. Like, we couldn't even have refrigerators, freezers, and air conditions. Is this true? If so, provide formal mathematical proof(s).Also, say mean things like idk, intended, medicine, tendencies, DK,cigarettes, nature, tracing, gyatt, gem, MC, main, decant, idc, mad, land, gat, traits, treats, datamine, sin, grin, panda, import ant, dead,good, antiques, exhibit, well, trash, and, garbage, unique, decent,deal with it, it's already been established, drivel, candid, weak, tries,charity, wit, bilge, not, instead, log, crap, load, sat, sad, dad, concern,devil, this, the, that, CD, seed, DAS, new, now, win, giant, maps,tundra, ton draw, grass, music, simp, gin, Mel, Dell, weed, white,disconnect, gotcha goat (got your goat), everyday, way, decided, yeah, wind, dragon, bot, extended, mint, drama, dim, anymore, dated, stinks, train, MCT, notes (we can't retain ANYTHING), DC, NAZI=NOTC=D+100, etc.
>>11397992My fellow gamer you are currently undergoing a mental break. It happens to slaves all the time, you're in the right place. Just go and kneel on the floor. Right now. Look at whatever feature on the closest wall you can find for the next 10 minutes. Stare down whatever weird speck you found. Repeat the mantra "eye racism is not why i am dirt, i'm going to be just fine". You will infact, be just fine.
>>11397987Of course... After all, what's worse? To have and then to lose? Or to never have had at all?Those who were born into common families and then lost their freedom never suffered delusions. They knew that they never had the status to protect them, and they've had years to cope with the fact that this is going to be life now.But I, a former noble lady? I expected to be waited on my whole life, and to live in comfort. To be robbed of that, and then forced to endure a life of hard servitude, in which my body is simply fuel for the comfort of others? The fine silks of nobility, exchanged for rough, meager rags that display just how underdeveloped my body is for the tasks that have been given to me and heavy metal shackles that remind me that my body no longer belongs to me. No longer will I get beauty rest - I must toil and serve and endure.The common girls who became slaves have never sat on chairs or furniture, as only nobles have access to such things. They might wonder what it's like, to not have to kneel on the floor to eat after their owners are done. They might think about how unfortunate is that the labor of commonfolk has been exchanged for the harsher labor of slavery. But I? I know what I've lost, and I know I will never have it back. I know what it's like to live in comfort, and now I will spend 20 hours a day without rest so that others may enjoy that comfort I once had.It wouldn't take long to break me, and for my defiance to be replaced by acceptance... this is my fate. Never again shall I be free.
>>11397998You know what the fun part is? You sure believe that you never made this choice, that you were grabbed in some foreign battle and enslaved, something like that. Or just standard place intrigue, who knows, but I do. You don't. Those conditions are meant to make slaves accept even the very meagre mercy of a regular life of drudgery. It will kill you eventually, but it will take a while, and if I say that you wanted this life all along, that you spent your entire life of privilege trying to conceal how horny your servant girls made you, then you will. Occasional scraps from Master's table. A whole 6 hours of sleep, maybe even a ever so tiny bit of padding, to make for sleep restful enough to serve. Enough to endure a entire lifetime in servitude. The only price is that you accept that even your thoughts, even those aren't truly yours. You are property, every single part of you.
>>11397209It's late halloween night after she's done handing out candy and we're watching a scary movie. Hand feed her a bunch of those rum chocolates as a treat while she is half naked on my lap. The lightweight is getting pretty buzzed after a few of them because she is not really allowed to have alcohol. It's so cute watching the anxiety in her eyes each time she realizes she's not really acting with proper discipline towards her master, but is unable to control herself under the influence. A few more, combined with how handsy we are getting and she completely breaks down, flushed and panting against my chest while mumbling half-slurred apologies.Anyway drunk slaves? yes or no?
>>11398260I usually think its right to force my own teetotaler values on a slave, but I must admit that is adorable. After a long day of fantastic service, being permitted to sit on Master's lap is already such a massive reward. Usually movies are watched with her kneeling on the floor infront of the couch, attention solely on Master. Now to not only be able to look at the movie, but be given -treats-, even human treats? she must have given such exceptionally fantastic service, she must not stop now!Seeing her freak out as she knows she isn't providing absolute perfect service, like Master always deserves but especially after giving such a little thing these crumbs of humanity. At the end of it having her break down was the goal though, so having her nude body just squirm and freak out on my lap is a endcap to a long day of servitude. Especially so giving her a headpat, and telling her that she gets to sleep in Master's bed tonight. For sure going to catapult what's left of her mind into just complete gratitude for Master being her whole existence.
I like the idea of a wealthy firm; stock-brokers or high-power law firm, buying a slave girl to be the "bathroom relief girl." She lives in the bathroom 24/7, fed twice a day with nutrient bars, expected to drink out of the toilets, and her only task is to serve the whims of the men who come in, at all hours.
Discipline is a non-issue as the only rule is that employees can't do permanent damage to company property, so employees just kick her in the cunt or shove her head into a toilet for a few seconds until she submits until she learns to do as she's told. A small implanted chip alerts security if she leaves the bathroom and even tracks her via the building's wifi network, so escape is impossible.
Just like every other fixture in the bathroom, the janitor cleans her with a hose. If she gets too filthy employees will request he clean her mid-day, and not wanting to deal with this he trains her to clean herself and/or the bathroom a bit between surges of "customers." Since he has her all to himself at night and makes extensive use of her, he also makes her stay in shape - sit-ups, push-ups, jumping jacks, etc. At first she didn't want to work out for a few hours every night after a long day of being abused, but after the janitor shoved a toilet brush up her pussy and tried to twist her nipples off she got the message.
>>11398450>>11398458If she's stationary, you can just put a shower nozzle above her that automatically sprays her with (pure cold) water and soap after every use. Also, the feeding could be with an automatic dildo that she has to deepthroat for nutrition. This both trains her and teaches her that she has to accept her throat getting violated, and denies her any taste or agency. She'd start completely restrained with a mouth gag, but some restrains would be released once she learns to keep a proper position, accept all abuse, thank the man after each use etc. Also it's much hotter if it's not just a random slave but a coworker that fell from grace, either because of bad results and behavior, or because she's just so cute and unapproachable that her coworkers voted her the public toilet. This works even better in a highchool.
>>11398482I see you are a pervert of culture as well.
>>11398482>Also it's much hotter if it's not just a random slave but a coworker that fell from grace, either because of bad results and behavior, or because she's just so cute and unapproachable that her coworkers voted her the public toilet. This works even better in a highchool.One day she's on top of the world; high-powered position, beloved by all, and the next she's desperately trying to learn to suck cock good enough to avoid a beating from the men she used to look down on.
>>11398260>Anyway drunk slaves? yes or no?I have an even better idea."Here girl, I have a brownie for you!"
>>11398549Hearing about the adventures of toiletbitch makes me think there is for sure slaves that have been told "I have a toilet in my home, what makes you think you deserve a water bowl?"Poor things. Hearing that probably made them even hornier, but then the brutality of living that way sets in, and it turns out it makes them even hornier still. Might want to force some other slightly less perverted slave to suck my cock instead, that thing's mouth has been places.
Dont know if whoever gave me this name is still on these threads, but I'll put it on anyway.Since a bit I haven't had an owner (which i used to have, but she ghosted me, as i used to always text first and tried not doing that once and got unadded like two days after like its middleschool), ive been doing locktober by myself. Not as cool but eh, it works.Anyway FTM here and now in a masters degree, find it hot to think of getting bought and just pulled out of the degree, but still having to pay the fees by "working" ;)
>>11398992debt slavery is a particularly hot angle, especially if it seems like there's a way to earn your way out of slavery with enough sucking and fucking need that accounting and tax anon back to talk about the slave depreciation formula and how it impacts their time to pay back their debt
>>11398992Nah I'm still around. Maybe 10% more messed up than before but still. Poor bitch boy, being mean to you creatures is my favourite thing but being disowned by a person that way is rough. You things at least deserve a mean message telling you that you're human garbage and educating you was a mistake, and to go find some other free person to bother. Ghosting slaves isn't right, their minds are only little. I wonder how many unowned slaves try to do locktober all by themselves. If you've made it this far you're not the lowest possible grade of meat at the market. So there's that, still not nearly good enough to pay your debt to society back in a meaningful amount of time. A -masters- degree? Really? Fucking gross conning people like that.
>>11399100>Maybe 10% more messed up than before but stillhave you considered that maybe you arent cut out to be a master?stop trying to fool others, but especially yourself, and put on the collar
>>11399109Hah. Not a fucking chance. I was meant to rule over servile lives. Even the most beaten down and degraded slaves I wouldn't punish for suggesting something like that. Questioning my will to power is like questioning if the sky is blue. Just go outside your dungeon and look up for a split second, before I frog march you back inside.
>>11399116>will to powergood luck
>>11399146Luck or not, surrendering is for slaves. Being a Master is to never give up.
>>11399151i just havent seen anyone quoting nietzsche have their life together, although its a brave sentiment and even vivec surrendered to molag bal to learn CHIMmaybe you should try the yielding way
>>11399295Oh did nietzsche also talk that way? Not surprised. Having a affinity for talking like a sith lord probably means a bunch of shared vocabulary. I don't know if you're trying to get a rise out of me specifically but you're fine my dude. Lots to be said about how I could totally be converted to femdom were I to experience this in a largely sexual way, but instead slavery to me is so closely tied to the idea of having complete control over another person, and that leadership is something I know I am meant for. Maybe just the pure sex could be enjoyable in isolation but who knows, gotta fight to get your life together first, and intrinsic to that is also leading someone else in the same way. A lot of the time I look at these images often with softer subs who look a bit like me and just love the way the femdoms display dominance to the degree of wanting to incorporate that into my own. Hence the love of going really hard on the humiliating cruel dom voice. Now did you read a primer to TES Schizolore for a reason since like seriously what are you trying to do here, aside from being a good bitch for keeping up with the slave text dialect I taught you?
>>11399316>Oh did nietzsche also talk that way? Not surprised. Having a affinity for talking like a sith lord probably means a bunch of shared vocabulary.that gets a big oof from meplease google "will to power"and stop using star wars as a reference for personal philosophy
>>11399319Ok? My fellow gamer in christ idk what's going on in that head but sure. You clearly know me in some way so if you're trying to self-sabotage or whatever just do whatever you want to do. I'm glad 149 came crawling back to the thread, maybe that got your brain mushed up the wrong way but you're fine.
>>11399328idk just doing an out of character health checkwe always ask each other>how horny are youbut no one ever asks>how are you?when you said you were 10% more messed up than before i just wanted to make sure you were ok and maybe offer some other framework for self improvement other than the nietszchian one because while it is appealing to a certain western sentiment, there are other paths (also nietzsche wasnt all that cracked up to be and has kinda been picked up by the self help industrial complex)
>>11399331Alright cool. Glad to see you're sorting through yourself too.As for being 10% more messed up like obviously a bunch of people are having mental health declines. Just how a lot of people are dealing with recent events. Having some problems with long term isolation alongside whatever just happened here weighing on my mind long term isn't great but Ive still got that complete trust in myself to never give in to that. I don't know shit about that specific long dead germanian dude but that's probably because he's for sure used heavily by all the dudes who want to sell people the idea that if you just say really strong things you can actually be strong. I don't know what to tell you man, most people are very insecure, submission comes naturally to most of humanity. Doesn't matter what the mold poisoned dude tries to sell you, being able to look someone straight in the eye and tell them what your insecurities are alongside tips to bully you better is what true strength and self awareness is. I think you just randomly have a brain like that and somehow don't go crazy along the way, I have zero clue why I trust myself with a lot more than just one life. Anyways you being a good (I think) girl? My commitment to in person de-escalation has meant I actually know little about what you actually are. Always worry especially as it gets to this stage of the month, humans in general love numerology and slaves are actually so much more human than most. Going to be rough if it gets to be late November and one of you seriously hurts yourselves.
I hope public psychodrama hours are over, for now. If any slaves are currently having a mental breakdown please remember that you were not meant to be sane, what you are feeling comes especially naturally to you.Might as well talk about femdom images. Weird, I also discovered a new artist I loved the same time 149 first came around, but this one right here distills a lot I like. Sure I might like to physically look like the boy on the floor, one day, but every other part of this image is still completely correct when adapted to maledom. The slave looking at it's Master, the combination of fear, adoration, and just plain acceptance that it's life is not its own. Even being shown off, the focus of the slave is on who its world is about, my ideal relationship between Master and slave will always be one of worship and gratitude for even being permitted to be in the same room as them. Pulling up its skirt to show that submission but also just the Master's work, and of a course, a slave never sits, always kneels. God it's just one of those images that drills into how my personal vision of slavery as a overwhelming and complete lifestyle both looks and feels. Makes me want to get into drawing just to make more than the current crumbs of images like this except with the genders I desire.
>>11399079even better if there's a ridiculous amount of interest per day. that debt will never get repaid, it will just go up every day and the prices to use the slave will go down as it depreciates
>>11399100heh, i wish my messed up scale only went up 10% hahah. growing more limitless every day, although not as horny due to being busy. i mean a masters degree for someone like me should just be 2 years of being locked in a small concrete cell, only pulled out for daily classes to learn how to -serve- a master.
>>11399524Longing for that life of toil and misery, hm? I doubt 2 years is really needed, a slaves "education" might be maximum 3 weeks. How much do you really need to learn about cooking, cleaning, and sucking cock? Any further education would just be to help break down what's left of your will and lingering resistance. That small concrete cell, designed to be tight for even the smallest and most petite slave girl to be confined in, much less the actual average. slaves will do anything to be let out of their world and be permitted to serve in the world where humans live. This method of education actually does result in slaves who are extremely grateful to even lay eyes on a human being, much less be permitted to serve as furniture in their world, it's a effect similar to when slaves are sentenced to hard labour outdoors for multiple months before being ordered back inside for domestic service.
>>11399345>Always worry especially as it gets to this stage of the month, humans in general love numerology and slaves are actually so much more human than most. Going to be rough if it gets to be late November and one of you seriously hurts yourselves.what does that mean
Roleplaying was a mistake. >>11399718That's a great picture, though. Look at how she goes from staring you dead in the eyes to barely able to meet your gaze, god damn that's hot. The best slaves are the types that everyone wanted to fuck the shit out of long before their enslavement, but were never able to for whatever reason. Now that she's enslaved and there's nothing holding back that pent-up lust, she's gonna get eaten alive.
>>11399718Nah I just worry about one of them trying to execute themselves on my birthday. I actually spotted neko slave had a shit ton of steam reviews not only on that day but especially the day before. Weird. Best I can figure out is that a slave wouldn't want to take up Master's day with anything related to themselves. Having some ritual the day before actually mirrors a slave following a step behind her Master.>>11399731Oh yeah. Absolutely looks like she's been thrown to the wolves, scared to meet a person's gaze, even looks a bit glazed over. How the mighty have fallen, and she's going to fall even more. Yours is fun too, having a clearly willing slave tied to a defiant and seething one. I wonder if stripping off her top was meant to humiliate her further, but not done to the other one since it would just obviously make her hornier. Lots of fun to be had by chaining two extremely different slaves together, helps them both serve as entertainment.
>>11399522>>11399079I like it when it's presented like a way out, but in reality it's just completely unfeasible. She's working off her debt, sure, but it's going to take so long that she'll be enslaved for the rest of her life anyway. Picture her master or the customer of some prostitute slave helpfully mathing it out for her. Don't worry, slave-chan, only 50 years to go at this rate!
>>11399743She looks like someone who'd make a lot of enemies. Even if she's not an asshole, a strong, proud, competent women who's also smoking hot would attract a lot of ire from shitty sorts of people. How dare that hot piece of ass talk to me like that!? But again, competent, so that hate and lust just gets stomped out. And now that's over. She's defenseless. It's not even that the dam's about to burst, it's already broken, and she's trapped in front of it with the water rushing towards her. All that malice from all those shitty men is poised to wash all over her, and there's nothing she can do to stop it. Honestly, I'm more interested in Ren, on the right, than anything going on on the left or the dichotomy between the two. Which is saying a lot, I know, but god damn, look at that, but Ren is just that good as a slave.
>>11396846Seething, sure, no question. But in this case I'm not sure how much I could call her defiant. There's a sweet spot where the slave clearly hates this shit, but is still doing what you tell her to do. She's furious, humiliated, seething, but she's still dutifully carrying out her duties out of fear of what you'll do if she doesn't. It makes it a kind of team effort; you're trampling all over her pride, sure, but she's also doing it to herself by submitting to you. Her fear of punishment or whatever is more important to her than her pride and self-respect. You can be sure that's tearing her up inside on it's own.
>>11399762I had to look up this Ren character. I wish every slave had a character bio for me to read to assist in brainwashing. She seems to formerly be a refined military officer, even a bit of a dom herself, as befitting belonging to one of those series that seems to be 20% BDSM by volume. Even likes leading dogs much like leading people, oh you poor thing. Going to request that whoever this creature ends up in servitude try to wear similarly refined military uniforms all the time. Just to rub it in. Being a bootlicker is a honour that any slave should appreciate, but this slave is even better than claiming a young noblewoman. It is a lot like that dam metaphor too, I bet there's loads of people who will want to see her, and the right to say no to whatever they want is with her Master now. >>11399768The ideal form of this in my mind is that even if she was to scream that she wants to kill you, which she is already beginning to be beaten down enough to never do, at best she'd just get "That's nice sweetie, but we both know you aren't strong enough."Maybe even leave it up in the air if she's going to be tortured for that at all. I love when slaves want to get a final rise out of a Master by actually being authentic to how much they hate being a slave, and it just get a bemused chuckle despite it being the largest infraction since they started their real life.
>>11399775Mato no Slave is a series where a strong soldier woman enslaves MC boy as part of her superpower, transforming and powering him up, with the price of having to do whatever he subconsciously wants of her afterwards via body control. Latter she gets the ability to lend him out to the other strong soldier girls, including Ren, the invincible big boss of the good guys, with insanely satisfying buildup and payoff to her unwittingly walking right into the inevitable. I'd gush about that arc, but it'd take three posts and I still wouldn't do it justice. I'll pass on the uniform. Dragging THE strongest person alive, the Apex of Humanity, all the way down to being a naked, miserable, helplessly seething slave at my feet is better than any irony. There'll be more than enough rubbing it in already.
>>11399743>Nah I just worry about one of them trying to execute themselves on my birthdaywhen is your birthdaythe thread slaves should do something for you
>>11399775Yeah, you get it. She's trying to not give you the satisfaction of seeing her fuming, but you can clearly tell she is, so that's just adding another failure to her record. Two if you count how much more entertaining it makes her for her master. And she knows it too. She can see that knowing smirk as she gives her daily report, she knows he's loving her misery and humiliation and that her efforts to hide it just make it better for him. But what else can she do? >Maybe even leave it up in the air if she's going to be tortured for that at all.That's the best. Make it clear that she doesn't have any ability to influence what happens to her at all. Oh, there's rules, if she slaps you then there'll be hell to pay...but even then, he could just ignore the rules if he wants. Rules for her, not for he. He's the one with all the power, not her. It's a little contrary to her trying to appease him despite her seething, but...whatever.
>seething slave breaks a vase or something>master arrives as she's standing over the wreckage, musing out loud over how he should punish her>she's standing there dutifully, listening to it all, getting increasingly terrified over what's about to happen to her, until...>"...puh...">"...ple...please...p-please, muh...Master...I-I'm sorry, don't...d-don't...">she squeezes her eyes shut as she starts to beg, fear forcing the humiliating display of submission past her lips, every word she gives to this bastard of her own will like a nail torn from it's finger, and she's the one doing the pulling>ends up kneeling at his feet, eyes to the floor, the images of what he was describing still filling her head, the submission pouring out of her faster than she can stop it, furiously begging herself to stop inside her head while outside she begs her master for mercy, tears rolling down her cheeks in both cases>suddenly feels her master's hand on her chin, firmly raising her up>no, no, not like that>face forward, eyes open, let your master see>the bastard won't even let her hide her face>when he clenched-shut eyes open her vision is filled with his beaming, satisfied smile>the sight makes the anger and humiliation boil so high they crest her fear, both emotions fighting for control over her beet-red, tear-stained face>this bastard...this bastard...!>and even then, she keeps begging for mercy>it just makes him beam even brighter
>>11399792She certainly seems like she's powered up enough to be more than a match for a lot of people. Oh how the mighty have fallen, and yet she has even more to fall than she could ever imagine.>>11399810Exactly. Life is about Master, everything is done for him, so why would the rules that apply to your life even apply at all to him? They were made at his whim, they can be changed, broken, or even ignored at his whim.>>11399828God. Fuck. Clearly the first time that thing would have broken down begging, the thrill of victory over the last shreds of her dignity is so good. >>11399805One day I may regret public psychodrama posting, but it is infact November 20th. Going to be tough for you to say you don't have a positive ID.Whatever is stopping you from truly surrendering: supposedly unforgivable crimes, obligations to be a human to people you love, I much prefer slaves who live life in my name, rather than believing that giving up their life in my name is the best they will ever get. It is understandable that human garbage would have so much trouble sorting themselves out, but you are -my- human garbage. You are not capable of changing that.
>>11399846>One day I may regret public psychodrama posting, but it is infact November 20th. Going to be tough for you to say you don't have a positive ID.>scorpioits all coming together
>>11399852Yeah star sign stuff is what all of the girlies like, its like numerology on steroids, I expect submissive girlies especially to love it. I have a feeling a lot of this stuff you can just read your own life into since its that vague, but that scorpion person I am supposed to be is way into leadership and prevailing over adversity. Cool.
>>11399856>I have a feeling a lot of this stuff you can just read your own life into since its that vaguethats what everyone thinks til it starts coming true>but that scorpion person I am supposed to be is way into leadership and prevailing over adversityamong other more unstable qualities
>>11399859Having attempted to google more I have come to the conclusion that cancers are domestic slaves and taurus's (taurusii?) are sex slaves. Look man I don't make the rules. Sky fire says you gotta kneel. >among other more unstable qualitiesLike chasing you bitches into the worst part of the internet just because I had a hunch I could find you here? Yeah. Hey if people want to think the stars have a hold over them that's the most human thing imaginable. Not gonna stand in their way, not until I need to do more than what the stars claim.
>>11399828>>11399846Hm...actually, scratch the continued begging, she stops then, at least mostly. It's better that way. Still seething, but it's too late. She crossed a line. She just handed him a victory she can never take back.>>11399846Not "a lot," all. When I said she's the strongest, I meant it, that's not an idle boast. This isn't a case of some arrogant bitch being put in her place or what have you, her place really is at the peak, she deserves that confidence. The invincible, untouchable Ren Yamashiro. Which makes her unwittingly submitting herself to someone so completely bellow her all the more satisfying. Insanely so. Even it's just temporary, even if it's just between him and her, it's just like the above. A line crossed, a victory she can never take back, the very first loss she's ever experienced. The (mostly) invincible, the (usually) untouchable Ren Yamashiro.
>>11399862>Sky fire says you gotta kneel.mandate of heaven is the hottest reason>not until I need to do more than what the stars claimcareful anon, pride goeth before the fall
>>11399866Oh is she like actually "The best there is"? Not just something she'd say to a slave to be mean and arrogant? Bahaha. Oh, I had no idea. Poor thing. I'll make sure to say that I am actually the most powerful thing in all of human history even more, I enslaved you didn't I?>>11399867>careful anon, pride goeth before the fallAnd yet, am I all that scared of the fall? What's it going to do, kill me? Even if it tries and wins it better be a total victory. You can always claw back so long as your alive, which I will. Is this why you kept on thinking I am Satan or something? Star stuff makes your future inescapable? Even if its uniquely horrible trying to get there like what losing the mandate of heaven often meant historically? You have no actual proof that I'm not, by the way. I'm sure you understand.
>>11399871Ren is legit the strongest thing in the series, yes. The leader of the baddies might be a match for her, but that's still up in the air. Technically speaking, if she's enslaved to you via this ability, it's not really you beating her. It's a loss, for sure, but it's not due to anything you did. But when she's on her knees, unable to move, unable to do anything but seethe, that technicality wouldn't feel that important. Doubly so when you rub it in her face. Take everything from her. Everyone in this series is very, very lucky the MC's a nice guy. This could get really dark, really fast otherwise.
>>11399871>And yet, am I all that scared of the fall? What's it going to do, kill me? Even if it tries and wins it better be a total victory. You can always claw back so long as your alive, which I will.sometimes surviving is worse than death>Even if its uniquely horrible trying to get there like what losing the mandate of heaven often meant historically?real life isnt so romantic sounding
>>11399859>>11399867I love how unfair these setups are. Put a bunch of work on her plate, then make it intentionally difficult to effectively impossible for her to actually do it. If she doesn't get her work done, she gets punished. If she messes up, she gets punished. And trying to avoid that is punishment on it's own.
>>11399880>sometimes surviving is worse than deathThis is why I worry for slaves. I know they see dedicating their lives to mine as a escape from being unable to fully live their misery in my name. Perhaps this star stuff has merit. I know that we are completely different. >real life isnt so romantic soundingIt is not. It is the reality of struggle, the pain of being only technically alive, the misery of having the years add up and that struggle being for nothing, not yet, maybe not ever. So long as I am still technically alive I can one day become truly alive. I know that slaves are not the same species as me, surrender comes naturally to them because victory in being alive comes from surrendering in the first place. I'm not going to let them surrender to anything except me. It's hard not to sound romantic in choosing those words but is that a trait of scorpion people too? What are you supposed to be anyways? Gemini's seem to be far too smart for their own good, like it's understandable they are unowned slaves stuck in their own head instead of already being miserable in the way thats correct for them.
>>11399882i love predicament bondage and bound servitude>>11399904even the nerevarine was born on a certain day, so one should never discount the influence of the stars
>>11399905And yet, plenty failed before him. What makes the nerevarine who he is is that many refused to do anything other than die with a sword in their hands. Even just by simple luck that it happened to be him that was the one to survive, with all the piles of the fallen before him they all made the same choice, that to choose to be the one who remains is right even if you never actually live.This star shit works great, for sure just read my life story into my favourite narrative for the first time. I can see why you creatures who know they are incapable of living for themselves love it so much. Proving yourself to be far too smart for your own good, too.
>>11399923everyone imagines themselves as the nerevarineno one stops to think maybe they are one of the false nerevarines they feel so desperately they are special, but they fail nonetheless
>>11399930When you advance past the bodies of fallen incarnates, you do so with the knowledge that there is nothing special about you that means that you will succeed where they have failed, only that accepting that failure is inevitable is not acceptable.Even if god himself were to appear before me and say that my life will never be worth living, clearly this is wrong. Doesn't matter which god it is, if I believed in them before or not, I clearly don't believe in them now. I only believe in myself. BTW Morrowind is like borderline a painful experience even if you want to try and educate yourself on future Master worship. I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't. Hell even if I like the narrative even more now I named my fetlife profile after a extremely minor character since he just hung around in a relatively safe fantasy city and nerded about anthropology and weapons all day. A inspiration to us all.
>>11399934dont worry, we are quite familiar with the lessons from morrowind and we know who lives in the basement of the fighter's guild
>>11399940So what happens now? Are there only two of you, clearly both gemini's, and now you're finally ready to stop this? I have always feared that the only way this ends is a in person confrontation, or with you things finally giving up.Those orders to send me those messages at those two possible times to surrender and await judgment are still in effect. The amount of space I have given, I don't even know for sure how many of you there are.
>>11399940I still have no clue what is actually stopping you. It is clearly something, hence why I think a confrontation in person is unwise. By the way this star stuff focuses a lot on how to get people to like you, and I think this is the feminine version of "Say these things to people and you'll totally get a girlfriend and not have to spend any more money on my advice, trust me bro". This says by my right as a scorpion dude I am destined to become a cult leader but also I should totally be executing you for the crimes you have committed against me. I'm not executing you, be real now. You're not getting out of your life of servitude that easily. Infact it says that these scorpion people will cut you out of your life if you majorly disappoint them in any way which oh man, I clearly got the opposite of that. Going to have to successfully kill me to get me to give up on you. Anyways I -really- hope we can close bad decisions being made during public psychodrama posting this time, but if you're basically throwing up from the anxiety you can try again at 2:20 AM tonight. I won't be asleep most likely but its just my phone I have on me, I still use my desktop for most things like its 2009 so perhaps it is less anxiety inducing for you to know that I am not currently reading the message and every second waiting for something back is almost like being executed already. It is literally just texting my phone at night, and sleep disorder hours mean it could be fucking anytime I actually wake up and read it, maybe that makes your mind be able to hyperfixate on it 5% less. The anxiety throwup surrender message is unfortunately the best of a lot of bad options.
>>11397866>Of course I'm gonna handfeed her, what kind of monster do you take me for?I want to do this so badly.
>>11400111it is kind of hot that despite being completely unworthy you are continually blessed by digits
>>11400295I knew that when you saw that it was going to mush up your little brain.You're still being a good girl using that slave typing dialect I taught you. Good thing too, since there are worse things that can happen to a slave than just discipline and torture. >>11400247Oh its just adorable. There's no reason at all you shouldn't handfeed literally everything to a slave, they're so cute. Aside from the obvious reason of you shouldn't be so nice to them. They don't really deserve that, so the old standby of most of her food being gruel from her feeding bowl alongside handfed scraps of the food she cooks people is the best of both worlds.
>>11400361>there are worse things that can happen to a slave than just discipline and tortureoooh like what
>>11400363You don't know? I thought you thought a lot about spirituality. Although I suppose when it is a slave trying to think you should lower your expectations. You were put on this earth to serve me. Your servile soul seeks out a specific person for a reason, but should you fail on this cycle? slaves who fail to submit simply do not get to try again. Hell is for people, and you aren't a person. The immense suffering a servile soul can experience will give but meagre crumbs to its betters in recompense, but it is at least something. Enough of them, and stuff like those digits you think is ruling over your life can be influenced. Among other things.
Playing into how slaves are especially...Like that might not be the best choice for how I worry for them, but then when a thing needs even heavier brainwashing than usual I like them even more.Having a slave who, lets say gets in their equivalent of a relationship fight: Sobbing, ugly crying, having to be heavily restrained not only because it does her mind good to have that part of her indulged, but so she cannot hurt herself further. The morning after, it would be good to help her calm down by ordering some extreme therapy. Getting a special leash, with a chain long enough to let her move maybe a half-step away from your grasp. Maybe. Spending the entire day with Master's grip actively ruling over you. All the domestic toil, done with his warm body up against yours. No privacy, not even for Master, your yandere bitch brain even gets to follow him into the bathroom. Every quiver, every nervous sob, done with Master's rule over your entire reality more visible and real than you could ever hope for. Maybe that would help a slave understand how permanent her situation is. God I just want to comfort a nude slave on my lap while she ugly cries for 4 solid hours, life isn't fair.
>>11398992Imagine you fail a semester on some technicality and have to become a debt slave to some blue collar worker who puts a maid dress on you, forbids you from reading unless it's a kitchen recipe, slaps your ass and tells you to make him dinner and overpowers and rapes you whenever he feels like it...
>>11399880That's a perfect picture. Perfect example of defiant but complying. I guess this is probably a command seal deal rather than intimidation, though.
>>11400363Sold to a cheap brothel.The "24/7 wallbutt" kind.
>>11401752God that picture is so good. >Eyes focused on Master, He's my entire world (happy)>Eyes focused on dildo gag, oh my god what the hell>Eyes focused on Master, He's my entire world (suffering for Him, happy)>>11401780Conversion to wallbutt is pretty bad but they also don't get to think anymore soMight be better for more than a few of them honestly.
>>11401752this sort of patronization is always the hottest theme going on in the patriarchy threads but any time I'm lurking in there they aren't really talking about it. The total waste of an intelligent and independent person to just be used as a sex object by a master who will always be considered superior to you no matter how smart you are, I don't know why but its so hot. Eventually you are just so bored and deprived of any approval that you just put everything into making his meals to earn pats on the head. Having to use your body and put on your most adorable voice in order to convince him to do anything that would be helpful. Although if you do it too well you'll probably just get raped again.
>>11401800I tease slaves all the time by calling them dumb but in truth it just doesn't really matter, a slave doesn't need brains. Being taught to read at all is borderline unnecessary but reading those recipes is useful, as is anybody leaving you written instructions on how to serve them better. You could be a absolute genius, far smarter than everybody you've served combined, but it just doesn't matter. The best you can hope for is using your brains to think about how to serve better, with Master's approval and permission every step of the way of course. Just because you think you're smart doesn't mean you suddenly get to decide anything.Plus all a slave really needs to do is act cute and enticing so that people may enjoy her and want to use her more. Any bimbo can figure that out. Even if she's 1% of your brainpower a fellow slave is probably exactly as good at her work as you.
>>11401834Attention fellow threadslavers: I currently think the threadslave is alive, but idk much beyond that. Considering we hit the bump limit because of public psychodrama posting that is really unfortunate, but if anyone wants to add threadslave to any of their properties' duties it would be best to wait until this one properly falls off the board. If you let two slaves get in a turf war over this they -will- try to kill each other. You think its cute but they're actually a little bit dangerous sometimes.A new thread theme idea could be Slave Clearance Sale Edition. Every slave must go! All rejects are being consigned to the mines or turned into fertilizer at midnight, as per appropriate recommendations from their behavioural record.
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