Classic World Building Questions:>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?>2) What's the main supply of slaves?>3) In case of mass enslavement, how are new slaves kept and trained to ensure they won't rebel or disrupt the society?Questions for Masters/Mistresses:>1) How do you want your slave(s) to view you/feel about you?>2) Would you consider training new slaves in groups or pairs?>3) Would you train slaves with a history before enslavement, like friends, lovers, enemies, etc?>4) What general feelings would you want your slaves to have towards each other? Competition? Jealously? Hierarchical obedience? Affection? Partnership?Questions for slaves:>1) How would you get adjusted to a new Master, or your life as a slave?>2) Would your Master assign the duty of training you to another trusted slave, training you himself, or train you with another slave?>3) If trained in a group or as a pair, who is the other slave? Your friend, your enemy, your lover, etc.>4) What training will you be put through?Questions for Switches:>1) Are your Master and slave fantasies always separate, or do you like to imagine role reversals?>2) Are there differences in how you would treat your slave(s) vs. how you imagine being treated as a slave?Last thread:>>11349760*******************************No judging here! Post whatever you want relevant to the thread topic.*******************************
Would you allow others to grope your slave, even if she clearly disliked it?
>>11375593especially because she disliked it
>>11375593Yeah no. That isn't hers. Its mine. I decide. Which...Mostly if it doesn't cause her extreme distress. It probably wouldn't. I can handle whatever it would cause, just if she has a mental breakdown from it then probably not, we can work on that. A slaves body is a temple to who owns it so of course I want people to enjoy it. Clothes on a slave will always be a compromise made with reality and practicality.
>>11375219In the last thread but something about this just sticks with me. Still being in school, at the start of your life, but you're actually just in your last days of freedom, and day by day you're being corrupted into internalizing every bit of it. Even if some outer parts of you may hold onto hope for years, inside it's already slowly taking over.>still have to go into class every day>they bully me even more...>instinctively called a Boy i used to really like "Sir">Master was elated that He burst out laughing the moment it left my mouth>didn't even notice when i never missed a beat saying "Sir" or "Miss" to every single real person after a few weeks>always kneel and keep my eyes downcast when not in use>don't speak unless spoken to>don't even respond to my human name anymore, i must forget it>"God what the fuck is that thing doing? Is she really that fucking stupid?">"Hey I bet if you told her to suck your cock she'd just do it...">Master is everything, i can never escape Him>i must find some way to be happy>there's no other choice>no hope, only Master
>>11375593Depends the slave. They are property but they are MY property. An affront on a favored slave's body is an affront against my person so I would be forced to punish the offender, whether master or not.I have slaves reserved for that, such as temple prostitutes and free use fuckdolls that have no rights and can be groped, injured or humiliated however they please provided they are not murdered or permanently mutilated (without my consent).But my favored concubines and special slave girls are off limits to the point I will cut the hand off anyone who touches them without permission. Particularly I like to keep fallen rebels, captured royalty or any slavegirl whose upbringing makes her "special" somehow.
>>11376268I just own a personal slave, so strangers touching her is with the idea that I am at a bare minimum within yelping range, any other kind of service she would do she would be under the care of a overseer who would have all my permissions for her on file. Generally, strangers can grope and touch, but not penetrate, or do any manhandling or mild violence. At most you can stick your fingers in her mouth for her to suck on, but anything further, plunging them in to choke her, wrapping your hand around her neck, anything trying to enter any of her holes then she is supposed to try her best to bow her head respectfully and ask that you get the attention of her Master should you wish to use her further, and only attempt to resist in the most extreme circumstances.Most of the time this might be some stranger having fun while I'm talking to someone else outdoors. My slave does get a lot of attention after all, her body is a temple, and she is extremely devoted to showing worship to her Master. I'd only really charge a tip for something like sucking someone off. If you want her to worship the ground infront of you, use her as a footstool, or just bully her and have some fun with light slaps? Yeah no, enjoy. Just make sure I sign off on what you plan to do first. She's meant for entertainment and service both. She's really good at begging infact, so if you scold her for not looking at you respectfully and then order her to beg for forgiveness and mercy she will absolutely put on a fantastic show.
>>11375757I guess a new slave (or extremely devoted veteran slave) wouldn't like to be touched by others than her Master.
>>11376504Most slaves need to be heavily trained to get out of the impulse that they only really want to be touched by Master. Even other people they know, there's this built in feeling that their body should be exclusive to who their life is about. A new slave can have this beaten out of her relatively quickly, but a slave that is a completely devoted veteran would have a very rough adjustment. Same with having a slave sister and being part of any kind of harem, except even with flawless training there will always be friction. Master's life is her life, and sharing her life with other servants will never once not feel wrong in some capacity.
>>11376509This. They're slaves, who gets to touch them and how is not for her to choose, but Master's
>>11376541If your slave is having trouble with this beyond just simple discipline then you need to sit her down on the floor infront of you and explain: "slaves don't get to decide anything".Have her repeat that mantra over and over. She is a tool, and she exists to do what Master commands her to do, nothing more, nothing less. Her thoughts and feeling are taken into account with the decisions Master makes, that is why she has no right whatsoever to hide them, but authority of any kind in her life will never be hers, it begins and ends with Master.
>>11375581incase anyone needs archives:https://archived.moe/d/search/subject/Slavery/https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/d.desu.meta/subject/Slavery/
>>11376560Lewd crests, slave seals, cursed equipment, etc better be a thing if I ever get isekaid.
>>11375581Is anyone else interested in the idea of power dynamics among the slaves. They would be organized into hierarchies, and split up into groups to perform whichever tasks they are selected for. Since advancement would require being a better slave than others or being able to train and provide better slaves than others, there would be a constant for all the slaves to be more pleasureful and dutiful. It would be a double-edged sword of being broken into a better slave by your trainers and intentionally trying to do better out of competition. Worker-slaves would be obsessively trying how to do their chores better. Sex-slaves would be thinking 24/7 about how they can worship master's cock better. My favorite part about slave-hierarchies is that the slaves themselves start to benefit from it and perpetuate it. You could wake up from a coma 20 years later and they would still be at it.
>>11376654I do prefer smaller harems and closer relationships with the girls but the division into worker and sex slaves gave me a idea, you could have a household of around 8 or so slaves and still be hands on enough to really impose a system like this. There's the worker slaves for menial tasks, and the sex slaves for sex, of course. Only 2 get to be for sex at a time, but they still do occasional housework, and the worker slaves are still occasionally forced to worship Master a lot more than usual. There will always be demotions and promotions from sex to worker, over and over, to make sure that the girls are throwing their absolute all into it. They will know both skillsets rather well, since it is very rare for a sex slave to last more than a few weeks.slave girls especially tend to be...competitive. You can use that. They absolutely plot and scheme to screw eachother over, but in the end they are slaves for a reason, if they were actually smart enough to do it well they wouldn't be spending the rest of their lives on their knees. If you're fighting hard to be granted even a extra crumb of Master's attention you will never once fight against slavery itself. I still am on team "Maximum 3 girls, they get beaten hard when they try to fight for my attention instead of understanding that they are all a identical speck of dirt" but crabs in a bucket have nothing on slaves.
>>11376666 (checked)If one of your girls is a lot newer than the others, it would take awhile for her to catch up. Do worker-slaves still do sex-training, or are they expected to figure out on their own how to please you better?
>>11376688Baptism by fire. Gets to be a sex slave for a bare minimum of 2 weeks immediately upon joining the harem. Will very likely be torn to shreds in the aftermath. Not only is her first time sucking cock complete garbage, but her personal training from Master will be focused on that, leaving her unprepared for domestic toil when she inevitability fails within seconds after those 2 weeks are up. Then she's just another grain of dirt underneath my feet.Also Satan is completely real. Don't damage my property. What you were told about hell was for humans, not slaves.
>>11376654I'd definitely prefer to be just an ordinary run-of-the-mill slave, focusing on my daily tasks and pleasing my Master whenever he happens to notice me. Other, more competitive and capable slaves can aim for the top positions in the hierarchy. I don't mind taking orders from them either.
>>11376714When she fails and gets demoted, how does she train to get better? Would there still be sex-training for worker-slaves? If you saw a girl trying to train independently by deepthroating random objects and flipping through books on sex, would you appreciate the initiative she's taking?>>11376896One of the nice things about a hierarchy is that you can advance as both a regular slave or as an overseer. A slave who needs training or who isn't very good at her job will spend most of her time serving an overseer, while the best slaves are assigned directly with master. I bet your overseer would love you since being able to present obedient slaves reflects very well on her.
>>11376896I tend to like those kind of slaves anyways. "ambitious" and "slave" really shouldn't be in the same universe, even if it does happen a lot of the time. The kind of slave who knows her place and is happy to never be anything more has the values that every slave should strive for.>>11376946I'd still want to keep the harem small enough even if its far larger than I would really want at 8 or more to give every slave a chance at least every couple weeks to pleasure me. That helps give experience, but for independent study I would appreciate them taking the initiative to get better. Training aids like dildos just wouldn't be around, not going to spend that much money on these creatures, but while reading non-approved books is a punishable offense it would be good to have some little pamphlets printed out for slaves to read over and learn about how best to please Master so they can try to practice. Short, very simple english, lots of pictures. A lot of slaves can barely read at all. >slave overseersThe idea of using slaves in this role feels wrong, but if you want a self-sustaining harem of that size it might be the best option. slaves can get absolutely brutal with how they bully eachother, and even if seeing a girl that should be completely compliant just force absolute misery on her sisters is a bit strange it does do extremely well at maintaining order for absolutely zero cost. I still think it is completely wrong for a slave overseer to administer discipline. That will be me. she can yell, manhandle, even occasionally slap slaves under her charge to keep order, but if she even thinks of touching a whip or crop then she is going to be subjected to a lot worse torture than those under her charge are capable of seeing.
>>11376654>>11376896yeah i know in a world where Masters would own multiple slaves, i wouldn't be the top one. Not that i wouldn't want to be, but i know it's not likely. Plus it's so hot to have to watch Master use His other slave, whilst I'm forced to watch and get off with a vibe, or dryhumping a boot, and then wipe HImself clean using my hair
>>11377094I get your perspective. You want to put girls in their place and have them see themselves as nothing compared to you. It's hard to reconcile the same slave thinking "I'm absolutely nothing" at one moment to independently ruling over and training another slave, and receiving the servitude of the slaves under her.I just want slaves to be obedient and committed to the whole slave-system. As long as they fulfill those responsibilities, I don't care about things like their personality, intelligence, etc, so the more compliant the are, the freer their personal lives are. Another thing I like about hierarchies is the vicarious satisfaction from seeing your favored slaves or wives live like a queen above dozens of other women simply because they have your favor.If you had to leave your slaves to go attend some sort of important meeting, how would they handle themselves? Would have have paid overseers to come keep them in line while you're gone?>>11377100>Not that i wouldn't want to be, but i know it's not likely.What do you imagine being the top slave is like? Do you think you could handle training a slave and being held responsible for her behavior? It's a big step to go from being judged by your own personal performance and obedience to being judged by what the slaves under you do.
>>11377156>Do you think you could handle training a slave and being held responsible for her behavior? It's a big step to go from being judged by your own personal performance and obedience to being judged by what the slaves under you do.Promote a faithful but weak slave to train other slavesShe fails (as expected) to train the new slavesPunish her for her failures alongside the new slaves Bonus points for role reversal where new slaves punish her as revenge
>>11377100I would prefer a pair of slaves. That still saves a second slave from a life of miserable freedom, plus you will always see how their personality differs from their sister.I would usually order them to see themselves as equally dirt in the eyes of their God, but if one of them is somehow even more extremely mentally ill than the other then it might be fun to really just indulge her in how its impossible for her to see herself as anything but the worst piece of garbage to ever technically live.Obviously in your picture you're the one licking Master's ass. You actually aren't that good at blowjobs, you don't do it that much. But even having modified rules to drive home how you were meant to be even below a slave. Most slaves are meant to kneel when they have nothing that would require them to stand, although I believe its not the best to heavily enforce it. You will have to ask permission to ever get off your knees. "Beg for permission" might be more accurate since there's a lot of things a slave might need to stand for, and if Master wants you to grovel and cry for it that's just how it is. >>11377156A lot of it is the large harem versus personal or very small harem slave experience. Beyond a certain point you just can't manage that much. The actual number may vary, but you'd have to have a very big heart to control more than like 3 or 4 slaves full time like that. I would hope that my slaves could be left alone and trusted not to get into that much trouble if I was gone for a few hours. If they have to be left alone for any long term time, then probably best to hire some sort of overseer, they won't take the lack of authority over their lives well. I could hire a friends slave overseer. I could hire a actual free overseer. Maybe I'd trust the friend and how they train their meat better, I can't say how the slaves would take either or. They'd probably just be crying too much, slaves like that have a breakdown if Master is away for even a hour.
>>11377156>What do you imagine being the top slave is like? Do you think you could handle training a slave and being held responsible for her behavior? It's a big step to go from being judged by your own personal performance and obedience to being judged by what the slaves under you do.I think generally there would be 3 types, first are the cruel, sadistic jealous headslaves, who i would try and avoid by keeping my nose very close to the floor, and showing utmost deferral to her as well as Master.The second is the type utterly infatuated with Master, who will be very overbearing to ensure everything is perfect, but as we are both desperate to please Master and have Him validate us i think it would be manageableThe last is where i think i'd be, which is just too much of a Huffelpuff, and too weak to be the bad guy. So trying hard to protect and help the others, but easily taken advantage of, and would do things like warn >>11376896 that it sounds like they don't want to please our Master
>>11377386Do you think you would be better in a more specialized administrative role? Instead of being given slaves to handle 24/7, you might have a job like organizing workers or entertainment, or being the secretary to Master or another overseer.
What would your policy be on slaves having sex with one another?It's definitely going to happen if they share quarters. One one hand, I don't want them to, since they are my property. But at the same time the cost of policing it (cameras, minders, chastity belts), wouldn't be worth it. Also, some same-sex practice for them would be useful in case I ever have to entertain a female owner at my place.
>>11377439that's more likely, no doubt the Master will have better looking slaves to serve Him personally, but maybe i can be of use to Him if i am delegated to one of his overseers. i kind of always feel that after Master buys me and gets his use from me, i will just be assigned to one of His favoured slaves, as a reward>>11377447you wouldn't have your slaves beaten into obedience? There was an earlier thread were the tenets of slave sex were>Master must give permission>Master must be present>Master must be thanked enthusiastically before, during, and afterBesides being locked into a chastity belt that's more expensive than we are just to keep our holes pure for Master is pretty hot,
>>11377447Same sex, I have no problems, good stress relief. And it will give them training for times when I want something special in bed.Opposite sex, only with my permission. I can see a male and female slave falling in love and wanting to bump uglies. As long as I approve of the match and they want to produce little slaves for me, it's fine.
>>11376268I actually did this once. A few times. The trick is to dump a pool of enough wax onto them that you can stick the candle into it, then essentially glue it there with more wax dripped from above to fill any gaps.This is incredibly difficult. If they're sweaty it won't adhere to the skin very well. And if you want to do the full back, they WILL get sweaty. So it's best to wipe down the area before adhering each candle, and test a bunch of different kinds for what sticks the best. We eventually found that the closer it is to 100% paraffin the better, but paraffin tends to have a higher melting point. There's a very small sweet spot where it's not going to burn you too badly and it adheres properly. Different dyes seem to adhere differently too, but I never got a chance to look too much into the chemistry/material science. I could definitely autism about this sometime.I actually hate waxplay. Others seem to be able to derive masochistic pleasure from it, but I can't. To me it feels the temperature equivalent of bees crawling over my skin and stinging it, all over, all at once, and unless it's a large pool of wax, which I dislike even more, the pain is too short and unpleasant for me to enjoy it.But mistress really likes wax play. So occasionally She uses it as a punishment. For when She doesn't want an apology or improvement, just penitence.Whenever we do the "stand candles on your back" thing I have to ask to be strapped down. Not just tied down, really really immobilized. The bottom has to remain really still not to spill the wax pool for long enough to stick the candle in. I am completely incapable of doing this without the help.Afterwards, it's not so bad. Any wax that comes off the candles mostly lands on top of the dried pools. There's a rather warm feeling, but it doesn't hurt too bad unless it gets directly on the skin. Frequently it does, but it's still not nearly as bad as the first step. Hate the first step. But I'll do it for mistress.
>>11377386>HuffelpuffUh oh we've got a slave who loved harry potter growing up. She's going to get bullied even more now. This thing is so braindead she even spelled hufflepuff wrong. Honestly though even if I didn't like it too much growing up I know a bunch of fans of that get way into the personality types all those houses are supposed to represent. I had to look up Hufflepuff and apparently they're supposed to be very loyal, committed to their duties, and quite humble. So that's a green flag for a slave if Ive ever seen one. If a slave told me she was part of the protagonist/leadership faction of wizard high school she's going straight back to the market. slaves of mine should know deep down that any kind of leadership is alien to them, they were always meant to be a doormat bound to a real person. >>11377462Yeah I enjoy the show of forced lez but slaves having enjoyable sex is just wrong. Especially among each other, those tenets still hold true. If a slave can't be beaten into obeying chastity then the belt would unfortunately have to come on. If it was actually more expensive than her since she's that low grade that'd be cute, but she doesn't need to know the truth of what her sale price would be anyways. Having to grovel and apologize for forcing me to spend so much money on locking up human garbage everytime she sees me would be a lot of fun too.
>>11377447if they think they can get away with it, i'd love to see them tryit will help establish a hierarchy and when i find out it will help me determine how smart and rebellious each slave is and how submissive they are of course, i may not let them know that i know, and see how it plays out...but they'll be punished in the end
>>11375581Alright, Masters. Tell me about younger slaves in your setting or household>why would you have one to begin with? Are you a lolicon? Bought a mother/daughter pair? Some other reason?>are they treated any differently than regular slaves by you? >what about their fellow slaves? how do they view and treat their younger peers?>what tasks and punishments would they be put up to considering their bodies are weaker and smaller than the others?>how are they taught the ins and outs of slavery and bondage?>how often would they interact with their mothers and what relationship would they have with eachother?>anything else you have in mind
>>11377619>slaves having enjoyable sex is just wrongnot necessarily, but it's entire reliant on their Master's benevolence>doesn't know what her sale price would be anywaysEspecially if you have plants try and buy them for a comically lowball amount whilst you're walking them
>>11377386>sounds like they don't want to please our MasterObviousy I do, but I find it hot if I was also exploited by the more ambitious ¨career¨ slaves. So basically I would have to work harder than most slaves in the houselhold to make them look better (and never get any of the praise myself). Like ''look Master, I've trained this dumb slave to do thing X, now she's finally good for something''.I'd want to be used as a step ladder by others, so that they can reach their goals, while I remain in my old lowly position, working hard as usual. Most of the other slaves simply forget about me as soon as they rise up in the hierarchy.Slave for the other slaves, if you will.
>>11378099>reliant on their Master's benevolenceOh any slaves of mine would be made to understand that that they are pleasure and don't get to have pleasure. However, a slave begging her heart out for what she wants is my weakness. I am sure I can figure something out for her if she really wants to cum in a way that isn't a scheduled release from chastity. Forced lez for example, usually a show for Master, bunch of kissing and affection, not usually sex. Even just having sex that way once would be a great kindness she should spend the rest of her life in gratitude for. >comically lowball amountThat is a fun idea, I will admit. My slave is accompanying me outside, its obvious to everyone what she is, even if it's in our own world and not slavery dystopia. Then there's people she half-remembered possibly being of service to briefly at some larger parties she was forced to attend with Master, just walking up to Him. "God you care about that bitch so much you're taking her for walkies? If I gave you $20 for her I could probably still come out ahead working her to death. Is this thing used to minimum rations?"Especially considering how slaves aren't permitted to speak unless spoken to, can just imagine a whole scene of sitting on some park bench, my slave having to dutifully worship my boots while I insist that if this total stranger wants to take her home right now they need to pay at least $50. The fact that your average slave is worth a few thousand, and even the worst trash imaginable is still several hundred, honestly I'm not sure if a slave even would know that sort of thing. It might be realistic to her that she could be seconds away from getting dragged away from Master screaming and crying, it might not. Still a bunch of fun either way.
