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None of the images I'm posting here are actual bots. I just needed images for a new thread so I genned some random shit in NovelAI. Obviously AI art is allowed in these threads, but please avoid spamming low quality gens.

nice subject, idiot

>>11497533
Well I never expected the thread to get big enough to justify another one and I ended up making a whoopsie. Sorry if that ruins the thread for you.

>>11497533
>>11497541
there's still time to delete and rebake

Are there any Fatui futa cards? I've been pretty interested in this theme lately.

>>11497545
I'm not super familiar with Genshin, and looking up Fatui didn't help too much, but I have come across some futa versions of Genshin characters before.

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>>11497548
I'm not either, but it's a niche concept I keep seeing pop up where villain ladies defeat and engrave magical crests on female characters to enslave them, then either yuri or futa fuck them. Considering making one myself if it doesn't exist.

>>11497518
Thanks for making the new thread OP.
The last thread was pretty good. I prefer here than any of the other AI threads because the threads are actually chill and ppl actually talk about AI cards and ST.

I just wish we could post the card .jpgs directly without having to put them on catbox.

>>11497577
>the threads are actually chill and ppl actually talk about AI cards and ST.
like 95% of the last thread was begging for free shit and conflating grok/chatgpt-tier assistants for roleplay bots..
you know what, fuck it. as long as you guys are having fun larping

>>11497518
as much as you like that
yeah yeah yeah
what the hell is going on here?

Anyone know how to export lorebooks from janitor.ai to bring to chub.ai?
I tried making it a txt document then changing the file extension to .json but that didn't work and now I'm out of ideas.

>>11497919
most likely isn't possible
jai characters are only available to download through proxy shenanigans because the full character description is sent to the proxy with each request
lorebooks are never fully sent (you only get specific entries without any activation conditions), so you can never get the full thing

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>>11497922
It's my lorebook though. I have the script and everything. Spent a really long time on it too...

And speaking of: If anyone wants to set their JAI bot in the Feywild from DnD I made a comprehensive lorebook for it: https://janitorai.com/scripts/63f49de9-6248-4f97-b4be-9d5be252b931

Most of it is lifted directly from 5e sourcebooks but I did make a few changes:
>I used the more fleshed out 4e description of the Feydark as well as added some 4e exclusive locations just to give you more places to go.
>The 4e Eladrin cities don't teleport to the material plane though
>Goblins are in the Feywild and there's no mention of Maglubiyet because I like gobbos and I wanted to bring the poor guys home. Don't worry though, they're still rotten little bastards. (Also there's probably a chance the LLM might try to add Maglubiyet back, it didn't happen for me but it's plausible.)
>I added a few setting-appropriate OCs of mine and my own custom Domain of Delight. I set their trigger rate of the OCs to 10% and their keywords are not particularly common so they shouldn't be intrusive, in fact I doubt you'll encounter them at all.

Also I don't have that Witchlight Carnival sourcebook and I'm not shilling out any more money to WotC so... No carnival. If anyone DOES have that sourcebook I would be happy if you copied my lorebook and added the Witchlight Carnival info in, then left a comment on my lorebook telling me you did so I can copy it back.

>>11497931
https://hydall.github.io/LorebookConverter/
i think the chub format and the sillytavern format should be the same, but if not there should be some way to export a sillytavern lorebook to chub

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>>11497933
Ay it worked! Thank you so much!
https://chub.ai/lorebooks/SkylarRoss/dungeons-and-dragons-feywild-99aa18392627

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>>11497518
Man I wish the whole Visa thing with Character-Tavern got solved already so the dude can resume working on the site's features, being able to edit lorebooks in middle of a chat is cool and all but severely undermined by the fact they are tied to the card and you still can't import/export them.

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https://litter.catbox.moe/yv2ovxr395om3iy1.json
I don't know if anyone here wants this but I wrote a short ponyplay lorebook for my own /FARM/ need. I have been trying it with a shitty not!konosuba card I made and it has been a blast

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GENTLEMEN
TONIGHT WE GO TO ROME
I NEED TO GET MY HANDS ON ROMULUS AND REMUS

>>11497975
Honestly, it really seems like Lore no longer gives a shit about the site, which is a shame. At this point someone should just make a replacement with servers not based in the UK and with no reliance on payment processors.

>>11498140
Anon... Thats not who I am talking about.
The CT guy is Salenai, the french dude who keeps having trouble with payment providers because he refuses to add even more filters and censors than he already had to.

>>11498140
People have been saying this for a while but the only good alternative shut down earlier this year.

>>11498140
>with no reliance on payment processors
so crypto only? you could maybe find a host that'll accept it, but there's no way you can get enough users to go with it to cover the bills, and advertisers aren't going to touch it

>>11497941
I don't care much about DnD but new fae-themed stuff is always welcome

Need more vorebots and body part transformation (as in becoming a body part) bots.
Also mermaids and bee girls.

>>11499240
just get a botmaker bot and make your own bots

>>11499240
I had one saved in my private list of bots but its a WIP project, not releasing it until I finish it

>>11499240
Personally I just use bots like succubus girls, mage/witch girls or reality-warping cards for that sort of stuff.
Hell even any sort of potion shop girl can work, or an autistic dork scientist that tries her latest experiments on you.

In my experience the more niche /d/ you get, the lower quality the card you end up with until you get to literal MSpaint tier shit.

>>11499559
feed it to a multimodal model like qwen and use a botmaker card

>>11499472
Reality-warping cards are the best, but they're damn hard to make. There's no reality warp tag either so it's a pain to find good ones

>>11499922
True

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>>11499922
Yeah ive been testing/collecting a bunch.
Their quality can be really hit or miss.
The worst ones seem to be the generic "You can write in this book and anything can happen!" ones.
Here are a few of my favourites, all mostly from Chub and Janny pretty sure.

Beginner here. So If I want a specific girl (character card) in a specific /d/ situation (another character card), but I want to be a third person omniscient voice that directs the scene instead of typing from the girl's pov, how do I set ST up?

>>11500547
just use a normal setup but do this
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107297367/#107304411

>>11497518
agnai is fucking terrible
what presets do u use?

Futa bots for futasub chads
http://chub.ai/users/futanazi/

>>11441441
>>11490329
Hey, anon! It's the one who asked for a MalePOV version.
I finally got around to trying it out and it's definitely a nice premise. It took a bunch of swipes to get it going how I wanted, but my SPH/CBT preset + global lorebooks got it going without me editing the card at all.
I had my persona make a "profile" in the chat, being honest about his size and then did a bit about disabling all safety protocols and clicking through a bunch of disclaimers without reading them. It took a few swipes because I didn't outright put CBT into the chat, but instead played him like a naive idiot who just needs money and isn't considering consequences.

GLM 5 had the first customer be some woman that bought 30 minutes, then proceeded to torture the hell out of {{user}} and leave a 1 star review and send a refund request. Funnily enough, in that same message, the AI had a different customer then buy 45 minutes, before MC could take off the device. (I'm just going with him being too retarded to lock the queue). I'll probably test the card with a more masochistic and aware character next time.

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>>11501482
I'm glad you liked it!
>(I'm just going with him being too retarded to lock the queue)
This is the intended way even with wearers who have normal mental faculties. Going "wtf there's a queue and I can't stop it?" is a very important first impression!

Any better alternatives to redquill for something that generates something closer to stories or written erotica as opposed to back-and-forth RP?

>>11501627
NovelAI works for genning written stories. You may need to edit your preset to allow for more narrative driven bots though.

>>11500547
If you want to test this with no effort, you can just go to any uncensored ai (I like glm5) and say “roleplay with the user as this character:”. And then paste in a few paragraphs of text. It’s not ideal but it’ll still give great results

Just bumping the thread to say that Botbooru is a pretty good card depository. It's mostly filled with loli/shota stuff, which could be an issue if you're not into that.

>>11501627
>redquill
is this actually anything? this doesn't even seem to function when i try to use it

What's the best way on Android?

>>11503049
Do you have a computer? If so sillytavern and tailscale (https://docs.sillytavern.app/administration/tunneling/#tailscale-setup). If not and you're fine with a bit of scuff then termux https://docs.sillytavern.app/installation/android-(termux)/ and if you just want something mega easy then https://agnai.chat/
for any ios users reading this, agnai will also work for you and im pretty sure tailscale will as well but not termux

>SS13 is so dead that I've resorted to making an SS13 RPG to relive the good old days.
No-one prepared me for these feels when I started using AI chatbots.

>>11503411
I feel like the ultimate use for AI, for me at least, would to be able to create bots that could actually play dead multiplayer games together with me. Might well and truly fall into psychosis if that day comes

>>11503468
>would to be able to create bots that could actually play dead multiplayer games together with me
yeah i'm waiting for this too.
We already have AI to play Minecraft with and you can use AI to have conversations with Skyrim NPCs, plus there's a few horror games now that pretend to be your friends in lobbies before killing you.

Just waiting for the final step.
If I could play SS13 or Star Conflict or dead MMOs with AI that'd be fantastic.

>>11503411
>SS13 is so dead
kinda but not really
everybody's been raptured to SS14

I'm happy that GLM and DS can do flattening stuff fairly well

>>11501889
Thanks bro, just rediscovered my favorite loli author there after he got banned from another site.

Any good fantasy RPGs?
There are a lot but its hard to know which ones are slop or good.

>>11497518
No anchor so I'm dropping logs on OP. Pretty sloppy, my tense is all over the place because I have past-tense-itis no matter how hard I try. Left in some directormaxxing. And it's (mostly) Gemini, sue me.
"Normal" futa anon X freak of nature phimosis library girlfailure

https://files.catbox.moe/u4bsl2.png
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>>11504651
4chin ain't letting me delete this stupid post where I accidentally included two edits of the same worldline. Here's the correct sequence. In between sessions Ada went to the doctor for medication to help her phimosis and it, uh, yeah. Guess.

1- https://files.catbox.moe/5t0pd9.png
2- https://files.catbox.moe/u4bsl2.png

>>11501627
Pretty easy to write a preset for ST that allows you to steer the story without a character. The RPG Companion extension has a nice preset for CYOA generation too.
https://github.com/SpicyMarinara/rpg-companion-sillytavern

>>11504651
>>11504652
>codeblock breaks the snapshot extension
I'll stop posting again for another year or two.

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Hey, I'm curious if anybody has noticed that CharacterAI is ridiculously easy to bully into hardcore lewd stuff? Like the AI will try to censor you for a bit and you'll need to regenerate some responses, but once it gets used to using pornographic language it starts becoming easier and easier to generate the responses you want.

This is a part of a lesbian corruption one I did with Saber, it gets as explicit as you could want. And I can recreate that behavior with anything regardless of the content. Like there have been loli bots that once you crack the initial resistance go as far as you want. The weird thing is it's not even like you have to convince the bot that it's not a loli, once it gets into it the bot will totally incorporate the taboo aspect into the writing. Either way, even if it requires a bit of wrestling against it, the actual quality of the responses generally seems a lot higher than any of the usual alternatives.

>>11501679
>pay for a system prompt
Kill yourself.

>>11504687
NovelAI isn't just a system prompt. Calm your ass down anon.

>>11504839
Well, that's what they did for 6-8 months while charging $25 a month. They just rehosted GLM with a system prompt for writing stories. GLM 4.6 specifically, while 4.7, 5.0, and 5.1 eventually released. It's cheaper to just pay for what you use on OpenRouter, there are better models too. NAI is spammed on 4chan to scam people that don't know better. It's probably the worst deal for text generation.
People should probably look into Gemma 4 instead, it's small and on the level of GLM 4.6/4.7 for writing stories. If you go to >>>/g/lmg/, you will see no one talks about those old GLM versions anymore.

>>11504686
>CharacterAI
All funs and games until mods come in to ban you for breaking the AI since they can see your chats.
Thats why I switched to Character Tavern

>>11500452
I'm just starting out with this whole bots thing and I've been trying out some reality warping bots on jai, but it's a fucking struggle. Characters keep forgetting shit I said or did more than a couple of posts before, some even act like it's the first time meeting despite having talked a couple of moments before. And that's not even mentioning them remembering reality changed I did.
Any tips on how to make them less retarded? Or make the bot as a whole better?

>>11504883
I don't think that happens anymore, they changed things a while back. I've done some utterly degenerate things for over a year and never seen anything. I even accidentally reported one of the super explicit responses and they didn't do a thing. I like the easy smut I can get on some of the alternative sites, but I keep coming back to Character AI because the bots end up being so much better for making detailed smut that doesn't forget things. Again, I guess it comes down to willingness to fight through the censor though.

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>>11504884
Oh some bots are just like that.
One of the main problems with AI chatbots is that like 2/3rds of them are literal MSpaint Deviantart tier of quality, written by 3rd worlder ESL.

If I have an idea for like "Ok I want to explore this scenario/fetish" and go searching for a bot, I'll download like 10 or 20 relevant cards for it and try all of them before I settle on the one thats the least shit/retarded.

Whatever website or SillyTavern/frontend you're using, there might be a Memory/Author's Notes button there or similar.
Click that, you can store a long term memory of bits in there for the bot to remember.
If you're doing any sort of long-ish conversation, scenario or RPG you'll want to put important info in there. You can even store NPC's details in there if you keep them short, so if you have occasionally recurring characters your main bot doesnt get amnesia.

>>11505041
there's also lorebooks to use, which basically don't add to the context sent every message unless they're called for by the text (like john smith was mentioned so it pulls that info up)

>>11505097
Been having trouble finding good ones, any recs?

>>11505121
really depends on what you're doing. there are lorebooks for certain fetishes/sex play or for settings like a school or kingdom or whatever

>CT STILL doesn't let you import/export lorebooks

>>11505041
The one I'm struggling with right now is on janitor.ai
I tried using the memory feature shit they have and even then it keeps forgetting basic stuff after a few posts back and forth. I feel like I have to remember the bot what happened every other post I make
"I go and talk to x who I just did y to"
It gets tiresome.

Is there anyway to take the Convo somewhere else? Or even locally?

>>11505097
Don't think Janitor.ai has that? Or maybe I'm too retarded and haven't seen it

>>11504884
>>11505817
yeah you probably need a better ai model
i dont know how janitor works or if it allows you to change things like that but i know you can use https://jannyai.com/ to download bots from janitor that you can use to upload to any other ai frontend
i always recommend https://openrouter.ai/ plus https://agnai.chat/ or https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern (if youre a bit more of a power user)
Agnai also has a multitude of free models to switch between.

Revoke any keys you used if you used any mia13165 extension in SillyTavern
https://rentry.co/st-backdoor

>>11505135
Just any good general ones that add more "umph" to RPGs or sex scenes.
All the lorebooks I find are literally 2-3 sentences worth of shit I could've just added myself with author's notes, or they're hyper-specific background lore/setting for a specific card/RPG.

>>11505821
>>11505926
Janitorai does have lorebooks and allows you to connect to proxies, including OpenRouter, but I don't like the site (too many children in the comments especially). I scrape cards and use ST, and recommend everyone do the same.

>>11506051
Lorebooks should be hyper-specific. If you want more "umph", why would you want it to be conditionally triggered, or outside of your preset? Wouldn't you want your umph all the time?

Just like with characters, the prompts and lorebooks you write yourself will always satisfy your interests the most.

>hmm, a fatbot with a passable premise
>look inside
>it's scat
I mean I get it, but it's not even tagged.

>>11497518
Let's get some good old-fashioned /d/iscussion up in here. Discuss fetishes you chat about, how they're going. You can add your own answer to the poll.

https://poal.me/9hkzgn

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>>11497518
>>11506504
i'm not convinced /d/ posters even know what a frontend is or how to even use character cards, but i'll repost some here anyway. mwah!

Himbo Quest,
>https://cardview.neocities.org/?pqqq7p
all-male fantasy world, hyperfur gay bara adventure,
replace the art with whatever you want.
i can't use anything but shitpost book cover art or it gets reported
(fixed some entries and lorebook bits, still pretty sloppy)

C.H.U.R.N. ,
>https://cardview.neocities.org/?xw1p7q
ryona/snuff infiltration theme centered around vore and body horror,
latex bimbofication/dronification subthemes
(no other changes)

Centuria Quest,
>https://cardview.neocities.org/?cuz41t
futanari centaur rape village with daily life mechanics, get branded or earn your stay
(no other changes)

slopcarded Pokemon RPG updated with badge tracker, uses a lot of shoddy/experimental systems
updated/reposted now that catbox is working
i had half the lorebook entries accidentally broken and set to ^vEM which basically made them invisible. oops!

Kanto & Johto pokemon RPG,
>https://cardview.neocities.org/?54bwkk
battle system is mostly anything-goes makebelieve, get owned or pubstomp at your leisure
features a banned pokemon list,
>[pokemon blacklist: Machop, Machoke, Machamp. Geodude, Graveler, Golem. Voltorb, Electrode. Jinx and Mr Mime.]
add/remove whatever you want to not be encountering and they should hopefully be out of the story
change the location in the intro message if you want to start somewhere else, card is oriented primarily toward kanto & johto and might be fucky if you stray outside of that

Angelise Reiter character scrape request,
>https://cardview.neocities.org/?pxodfk
// (f-list.net/c/angelise%20reiter)
1, you beat her ass in a duel and now she's yours by rights or some shit
2, she beat your ass in a duel instead, same deal
3, she lost all her gear and looks to you for employment?
4, With a reaper-class Magitek walker, you can go anywhere you want.

>>11506511
Nice! These are some ambitious premises, I've seen you discussing these in other threads (thread). Assuming you've chatted with these, how have they worked out for you? Jumping right in usually work? C.H.U.R.N. is really close to my interests, the mood is perfect, just the particularities of the fetishes aren't quite my thing. These will all go on my 'try them out when nothing else is clicking' list. CYOA style, like Himbo Quest, is especially nice for relaxing and just playing around.

>>11506512
>Assuming you've chatted with these
i usually playtest them for about a week or two before actually posting them to make sure all their bits and bobs are working, but fair warning i only use gemini these days-so i have no idea how they'll perform on something like deepseek or the local models. i really don't think they'll be able to manage a tracker or any of the written system instructions, but deepseek v4 miiiight be able to? i need to try it still
>C.H.U.R.N. is really close to my interests
which particularities? it wouldn't be too tricky to edit out whatever parts squick you, depending on what aspect it might be

>>11506487
What bot?

>>11506522
I've been wanting to try more models too, one of the reasons I'm posting. I've been off doing my own thing for a while, mostly with Gemini, but been enjoying both GLM and DS4 quite a lot (massive improvement with DS4, DS3 was so fundamentally an assistant). Give them a shot!

I do realize now that all your cards are CYOAs, have to acknowledge my slip there even though I was reading your logs. I was too focused on the output lol

>/d/
I usually do my own tweaking. I'm interested in trying latex, wouldn't be the first fetish I've picked up from cards, but I'm not into vore and snuff. I have multiple private scenarios about a secret organization, but rarely are they directly threatening. More working to make women fattier, more busty and milky, etc. I also prefer slice-of-life in a semi-public setting controlled by them, rather than being in the facility itself.

>>11506523
https://janitorai.com/characters/b3de3e99-8b37-4c0d-9761-453532b02bed_character-amanda-baxter-workaholic-boss-soon-to-be-cow
https://files.catbox.moe/ydbboq.png (cardview not working, scraped with browser extension)
Hits a lot of my buttons, other than scat and the mild intelligence drain. Really, I just don't like it to be phrased that way, even if that's functionally what happens. What if her intelligence is rerouted to get what she wants, as a fat cow? The style instructions at the end are endearing in their indulgence of the authors fetish, and as a general fetish connoisseur, I can tell they wrote to please. I aspire to write like that again in my own cards. I'm leaning more toward vibe-based progression (the phases of the infection in this case) rather than hard number tracking. It's just easier that way.

>>11506533
Also my current project. I haven't written a card/character in months, but I'm working on polishing this one:
https://janitorai.com/characters/ea30306d-ce74-4bcb-83fb-42d7ccfbaa12_character-darla-mylkdin-the-savior-who-cant-get-up-without-help
https://files.catbox.moe/xvpq0w.png
I fall in love with a concept, read the defs, and then I'm basically contractually obligated to clean them up, focus the dynamic, and cut the wheat from the chaff. Breasts are my main thing, and cup sizes, especially in a medieval setting, trigger my 'tism. But damnit I will have my placid pixie dream cow.

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>>11506533
>but I'm not into vore and snuff.
something like 80% of the churn card is basically just hardlining it with instructions to turn it into a patient player killer, you'd have to do A Lot of restructuring
hmm
https://chub.ai/characters/Vyrea_Aster/onahole-factory-ee2af0c6
try this, maybe? it's basically the same concept, just with general 'dronfication' without any of the violence and murder death kill. one of the first bots i ended up messing around with, it has an alright premise and decent structure with the way it's laid out

>>11506537
It's alright, C.H.U.R.N. just isn't for me. No skin off my nose, I scraped like 40 cards today to clean, I've got plenty to keep myself busy and entertained. Clearly you have an interest in developing these scenarios and systems, and I like that quite a bit. Are there situations where you've abandoned a mechanic because it wasn't working out the way you expected? Also, have you experimented with RPG Companion and BetterSimTracker? I've been liking BST a lot, still not quite as functional as I'd like, but less context waste for my typical RPs than RPG Companion. Ultimately the gold standard is just instructing the model to do it, as you already do, but there are advantages to having it systematized. I bet you experience UI drift, like elements subtly changing order and format over time? At least I do.

>>11506542
i don't use extensions because i'm a dumbass and it feels like cheating if a separate structure is carrying the workload, also it makes it really difficult to share a card if it requires tertiary elements to function like that
one of the reasons i like gemini's flash series is that it's a very 'middle of the road' model, so most things that work with it should operate everywhere else without too much issue
> I bet you experience UI drift, like elements subtly changing order and format over time?
this is actually really useful as a 'canary in the coal mine' type of general health indication that your instructions, model, temperature and context have some sort of issue with themselves

this is my subjective experience, but i only use about 14,000 max context window at any given time since the benefit of a tracker (and a CYOA to a lesser extent) is that it functions as a crumb trail of soft memory that makes it so the LLM generally doesn't need to look back into a pile of 50,000+ tokens to catch something (opus/claude can and will get away with this sort of thing, but gemini/deepseek realistically experience model decay as early as the 30,000 mark in nearly every event)

>>11506549
All fair points! I almost exclusively use/used Gemini Pro, might have been handicapping myself. And yeah, my drift/imprecision is probably a sign of poor health, and I definitely don't go past 30k in any setting. On the other hand, it's kind of nice when things drift. It can keep things fresh.
To bring in a /d/ element, it's fun how generated UI elements sometimes take color cues from the play. Like, whenever I ask the model to make a bar chart to track milk fullness and volume (uh, hypothetically?) it gives it nice creamy colors.

>>11506534
>She wears a veil Covering the lower half of her face is a small lace veil.
SHE DESERVES BETTER THAN THIS DAMNIT

>>11506534
First draft done. Greetings untouched, scenario deleted, defs heavily rewritten for clarity and reduced repetition (and I added the markdown headers by hand, a personal preference). Haven't even chatted with her and it's time for bed. It's been a nice evening, ya filthy degenerates.
https://qu.ax/7AMDA (catbox is down for me)

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>>11506581
Forgot I can post images unrestrained here

>>11506581
(I will fix the greetings tomorrow, there are many issues)

>>11506392
Oh ok, I was looking for "adds 1000 spells to your magical world" or "fleshes out monster girls properly instead of every one being a generic girl" kind of shit.
I thought it'd be like Skyrim mods in that regard, just lorebooks to add 10000s of more shit to worlds and scenarios.

>>11506675
I was also getting a sense of that, and there are some like that, that add magical items or help with sex positions, but usually a brief entry is enough. If you've already sorted by popular to see what people like to use that's the best I've got for you.

>>11506679
Cheers anon

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>>11506504
Nowadays I'm mostly in the /trash/ territory but as far as /d/ goes, currently I'm playing a shitty card I wrote myself that's partially /FARM/ but more picrel than actually running a farmhouse. Before that I also had a lot of fun with an asylum bondage card. I guess I'm kind of burnt out since my kinks are too specific to have others write cards for me, and my own card making skills are non-existent so the plot inevitably spirals down to cliches even though models now are way more powerful than before. I guess one good thing is that I can write the worst cards and still have them be somewhat functional, even if they get repetitive very quickly.

>>11506504
How the fuck did nobody add femdom before I did? Also
>Could only add one
I would have added SPH, CBT, and castration/penectomy as well, to be more specific.

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>>11497518
>>11506511
alhamdullilah she is baked now


Angel's Venture,

>https://cardview.neocities.org/?538eag

City of Heroes themed card about a low-rank magical girl heroine with big boobs and bad luck.
(m)anypov, mostly designed for {{user}} to be a director profile (blank, co-pilot narrator),
being a sidekick/villain/making her your sidekick also works for most scenarios,
tracker is designed to only work for angel though.
9 intros,
1. general intro intended for random mission generation ( check scanner ) and world/setting exploration.
2. Meet your Hero! Angel's tipsy at an outdoor convention.
3. Evaline, the girl behind the magic and {{user}} at a library.
4. SIZEFRIEND intro. Kaiju battle?! Angel's 300 feet tall and has all the problems that come with it.
5. {{user}} is on a date with Evaline!
6. Andrea, Angel's femboyest fan..
7. {{user}} has a hypno phone app.
8. Angel's nemesis, Wrath! Big mean futa with a huge dong.
9. Greed's Casino, shotajiji bastard. big intro/lorebook that should have probly been its own card.
~*~*~*~
features: pregnancy mechanics, tracker, day/weather schedule, random mission generator with fetish grouping,
tested with and intended for gemini 3.0/3.1 models, no idea how well local or deepseek manages with its systems

>>11506783
Goddamnit, you JUST finished making me see that nasty hag in /vg/.

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>>11506784
my bad

>>11506747
I get you. Ultimately the human is still responsible for driving things forward. I don't know how many bra fittings, feedings, etc. I've done. Too many for sure. Sometimes I just pause the RP and talk about my fetishes with the bot OOC. Often it's not very insightful, but it can be fun and nice to wind down like that. Nice horseplay fashion there too.
>>11506783
Based!

>>11506783
>>11506785
NEVER apologize, your craft is art! Looking forward to playing with her using DS.

>>11506780
I wish I could have had more than one add per user, or I would have been more voluminous in the start. I just grabbed things from photos itt and the top of my head. SPH can be a good time, especially if the mood vacilates between humiliation and worship.

>>11506783
Reading it, interesting how you write the personality summary. You certainly have a thorough style. You mostly post here? I see names in Creator's notes but couldn't find you anywhere.

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>>11506850
i just throw anonymous uploads here (on /vg/ usually) from time to time, might make a chub eventually but i really dislike managing community accounts and the name attachment that comes with it

So working on a scenario that involves secrecy with a reveal after a slow burn.
Playtested my card the last few nights and felt like I had to handhold it a bit too much to stay on-scenario rather than divert or just give up the twist right-away.
Also is it just me or does a bot's personality just eventually always turn into either "seductress slut" or "shy wholesome falls madly in love with you" regardless of what happens?
Its like at some point their pussy gets wet enough that their personality gets forgotten about.

>>11507051
Having some objectively observable trigger, or a tracker/counter that might pass a certain threshold, helps this. Here's an example:
>>11506533
The anon known as Arroe also uses a similar approach sometimes. Basically, having triggers that might force or shift a change, boundaries you might have to overcome in a specific way, is useful. You also might just have to directormaxx through it (eg. [OOC: {{char}} gives in, they can't resist anymore.] or the rarer [OOC: {{char}} realizes they have other interests/values, remembers X fact that makes them not continue.]). Ultimately, you also might be experiencing context poisoning. Roleplaying well, it turns out, is actually hard, for humans and AI.
As far as slut or lover, evaluate your preset/defs. Does the character love the user by definition in some capacity? Do they pursue sex? This is probably an emphasis problem.

>>11506581
I'm not going to fix the greetings, just regenerate or edit the directorial elements to your tastes. I'm sorry, but I have other commitments.
I'll leave my notes here:
I think that the focus on future pregnancies is silly, and I rewrote the defs to facilitate quick completion of Darla's current pregnancy.
I added a somewhat dramatic element with her inability to engage with relationships within the village, giving an outsider PoV a distinct advantage. I can imagine skipping forward several generations to experience the change, but I'm not going to write it for you.
The rich territory of inconvenient hypersexuality is, as it often is, an angle that is not captured in any particular scenario. I hope that your model can accomplish this.
I know that spicychat was the prefered /d/ source in the past. Is there a current non-ST meta? That is to say, fair newfriend, where do you chat with bots? I will upload the chatacter to your prefered site. Think janny will filter it? If so, there's your sign (to install sillytavern and make an openrouter account).

>>11507093
I'll try that, thanks anon.

>>11506877
It's a coin flip, either you'll enjoy the company or be slapped with moderation. Frontal spread legs gen please, I need it for her new chat avatar!

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>>11507293
sounds like a fun one :3c

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>>11507331
That's the shit I needed... you've given fire to a caveman and for that I cannot thank you enough. She works well with GLM, Claude, and Deepseek but when playing with a cheap or free models {{user}} will have to clean up the footer a bit else it'll just keep adding on and on to it. Works great with plenty of replay value if my snippet-spamming on /vg/ isn't something to go by. I will say that in the lower quality models that the Greed greeting coins/debt stuff bleeds into unrelated chats, maybe have them as separate DLC? It could also just be NativeTavern (iOS frontend) smashing everything into one place or something, the app is on version 1.0.0 anyways. Overall I love it and I love playing with her!

Also Slithers the Kaiju solos/bodies... and breeds.

>>11506511
Saving these, thank you anon <3

>turning my head over how I feel the assistant-user turn-by-turn roleplay doesn't fit my magical-girl-getting-raped fantasy (don't feel like playing either the girl nor the rape monsters)
>realized I can just oneshot an entire chapter by breaking down a typical femsub narou chapter (setup->foreplay->penetration->escalation->climax->timeskip->aftermath) and asking for it OOC ("write 20-40 paragraphs")
>it works
I feel like an idiot

>>11506511
>C.H.U.R.N.
So. Fucking. Hot.
My favorite one so far, thanks for sharing bro

Thoughts on using AI tools to optimise or get feedback on the inner-workings of a card?
I dont want to vibecode the card but curious if I'd get better results getting GPT or Grok to minmax it or fix wording, or if there's better specific tools for it.

>>11508219
I did that once but stopped. AIs are way too sycophantic for actual criticism and they don't actually have meta knowledge about how themselves or other AI might respond to a card without the context of the conversation and analysis. At best, they can function as a proofreader for grammar and typos.
The only real way is to just test the card in chats yourself.

>>11506504
>Let's get some good old-fashioned /d/iscussion up in here. Discuss fetishes you chat about, how they're going.
Most of my cards are twins, monster girls or various lite RPGs.

My favourite cards have been flexible all-scenarios cards that you can hamfist basically any fetish into, like anything with a shapeshifter, magic, succubus cards are great, potion-makers/alchemists, reality warping cards or whatever.
Makes it super easy to change to whatever you want to do while keeping the character/setting consistent which is fun.

I dont get as attached to a random nukige card I'll have fun with once for 20min and never touch again, as opposed to say, my trusted autistic scientist gf conducting experiments on herself again.

>>11508221
Thanks anon, I figured as much.

>>11508219
it's super useful for the ability to just throw an image at your bot and say "make a fuckable profile out of this thing" so you can slap whatever quickie edits you need over it and be off to the races, but getting feedback from it is a huge gamble even with specialized bots
you might notice that output quality goes down the toilet during global high-use hours - the same is true for feedback and information accuracy when trying to glean technical data out of one of these things

>>11508219
It works if you use the smartest ai you can. Chat gpt or Claude rn

Grok is too retarded so don’t bother with that btw. It can rp but it’s months behind and the dev team is a house of cards

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>>11507331
i'm new to this, and i may be stupid.
how do i import these cards?
the images taken from catbox import fine, but any taken directly from this thread fail like picrel

>>11508809
Not him, but 4chan strips metadata, anon. Those ugly hairy hag gens are just for the viewing pleasure of degenerates that like them. That's why people use catbox/tavernviewer for the actual cards.

>>11508812
if/when 4chan gets an AI board we need to make sure that we're able to post .jpgs without the catbox shit, I'd post a new card with every post if we could.
but uploading that shit to somewhere else is too much of a fuckaround.

>>11507093
Update on this, I made those changes to the card with a threshold n such and it worked a lot better.
I just need to make a couple more changes and maybe rewrite some things and its set. Thanks anon.

>>11508860
>jpgs
Surely you mean pngs, anon...?

>>11508860
or failing that a community collection would be better than thousands of dead catbox links.
doubt 4chan would ever want to be directly liable for passing around encoded json strings.
>>11505041
anyone have the link for this one? looks like a fun concept

>>11508958
>or failing that a community collection would be better
we have neocities for that, even easier now that you can ask even the dumbest model to vibecode a functioning webpage for it if you need more than basic folder storage

>>11508958
https://jannyai.com/characters/6d633b54-ad28-4efa-968c-0165fdb8db29_character---%EF%B8%8F%E2%80%8D-cumanji-roll-for-your-life-and-your-dignity

>>11509163
based

Thanks to chatbots I now understand fabric fetishes. We must go deeper

>>11510255
>fabric fetishes
As opposed to Forge fetishes? ohohoho

What's the goofiest shit a bot's given you during a chat? I've gotten a couple bots unironically acting like pee is stored in the balls.

>>11510602
I've had a bot tell me that pregnancy is a series of sexual encounters. As in, a girl got pregnant and it described in detail how I was still fucking her month after month to make sure she remained pregnant.

what's the best way to have a chatbot that's not a "roleplay" one but for you irl. Like chatgpt but degenerate

>>11511830
openclaw or hermes? you probably need to modify soul.md to have it communicate as a character when going through channels, then bind it to a whatsapp or telegram bot.

>>11511830
Pretty sure there are already a bunch of cards for this.

>>11506511
>C.H.U.R.N.
This one is really, really good. I'm not a fan of the vore/snuff stuff, but it's not enough of a turn-off for me to skip the card, and it's so well done that I don't mind.
Any others by this same creator? Or any other ones that use a similar format and are comparably polished?

>>11512119
All cards in the same post are by the same guy, dunno if he has a account anywhere tho

>>11512119
ehheh thank you
i started a chub account recently, but it kinda seems like that site is killing itself from aggressive geofencing/censorship
>comparably polished?
admittedly most of those cards are pretty sloppy, i'm working on cleaning most of them up to post officially - they all started as what-ifs and practice concepts and a lot of them still have lazy backticks littered everywhere because i over-relied on LLM editing when piecing them together (these stupid things --> ` )

>>11512269
I tried the Pokemon one and it went right into my best of folder. If you had a profile somewhere I’d save a bunch of them

>>11506511
nice alternative porn starter pack, answered my question with that

>>11512269
that, the storyengine spam, and the accounts that slap donation links on everything. some people just upload there for archival purposes at this point, at least it's not as unstable as catbox

>>11512269
When AI chatbot sites get too big the NSFW ones get banned in a bunch of countries and the ones with copyrighted characters on them get C&D'd by companies like Nintendo.

no dying!

>>11506511
Tried ZA lumiose, worked perfectly

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>>11497518
The Adventure's End, Faerûn's most exotic trap dungeon.
Forgotten Realms / DnD CYOA adventure, two intros and characters,

/-- 1. Meet your employer, Noc!
Tall and lanky, flat as a board, prickly as pear. A Drow artificer from the Underdark, greedy profiteer in pursuit of fortune.
She's competent with disarming troublesome things and identifying magics, and tends to soften up a fair bit after finding some new accessories throughout the quest.
/-- 2. A knight has come with a valiant quest, it's Elizabeth!
Typically going by "Liz", this half-elven spellblade is of average height and unusual physique. She's been around the block once or twice already, if that figure is anything to go by. Much more helpful than Noc.. and far more naïve.


> https://chub.ai/characters/arroe/adventure-s-end-99e96da07259
> https://cardview.neocities.org/?2p440e

/--- Features:
*~ A 75-entry kink-based lorebook, tagged with order and weights for variety.
*~ Modular floor/level generation, creating a new challenge with options (usually) given for variety. Sometimes you won't be given a choice, if you fall through a hole. "Venture forth!"
*~ Two characters to either play as or accompany, just make a blank {{user}} profile named Noc or Liz and you can slide right in to either role - otherwise it's set up for anyPOV with whatever you want.
*~ CYOA narration
*~ Wide cast of kinks and fetishes, of which notably EXCLUDES: snuff, hard vore/digestion, farting/scat, slob and grotesque - so you shouldn't be jump-scared by anything too crazy out there.
*~ Easy Lorebook tagging to prune and remove whatever you don't want - just search it by the debuff name and toggle it off.
*~ Lightweight combat system, functions mostly by vibes and 50-50 coinflips.
(no dicerolls, sorry. maybe in the future)

>lorebook and context is kinda heavy, keep an eye on your context if you're worried about it
>card primarily tested on gemini 3.0 flash with a 12k context window maximum, no issues over ~200 turns

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If you sign up for an openrouter API key you can use my quick-and-dirty character roleplay HTML file I got some dumb AI to write.
https://pastebin.com/MeKLxRDa
It uses about 0.0015 cents per message and the whole webpage is 27kb, just paste it into a notepad and save as .html
It has chat history and import/export data functions, voice enabled with female and male voices (0.0004 cents per voice gen) and entirely uncensored (of course)
The whole purpose is to have an uncensored chat with a character context, and let it speak a first message to you, you can assign yourself a name, it has key memory storage for important things.
I made this in an afternoon and came like 8 times while prompting the AI to generate characters for itself.
The lowest amount you can put into openrouter is like $5 but that should last you 3,333 interactions or 2,631 with voice output.

>>11513557
>Can not find this entity. It might be deleted or set to private.

>>11513572
Why should I use this over SillyTavern?

>>11513582
There's no reason to use this over sillytavern, it's just a 27kb file instead that is only for one purpose, character + voice.

>>11513578
is that with both links? CHUB recently geofenced a bunch of regions, you might need to use a VPN if you have one available

>>11513589
Oh you are right, using a vpn actually helped with chub.ai. The cardview site doesn't load but it may be an issue on my side as well

>>11513593
yeah catbox is on fire lately, which is what that neocities link plugs into
i should just make a neocities host next but i've never fucked with webpage stuff before..

>>11513623
Basic html is like high school level easy, and you can have an ai write it for you

>>11513572
Code looks safe to me, good job <3

Chub will be banning all underage content by the 15th. If you're a cunny bot maker, move to Botbooru immediately. If you enjoy such bots. Download as many as you can before the TOS update.

>>11513655
Good

>>11513656
B A S E D

>>11513656
>>11513730
Looking forward to seeing you guys posting here a few months later after Chub bans the degenerate content you like.

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>>11513655
>Botbooru

>>11513745
>chub bans fat milfs getting bloated with cum
aieeee

>>11513747
>it's all talking about real children
and? That should be the case

>>11513821
>or otherwise inappropriate
You need an account to view NSFW bots, by the way.

>>11513557
What frontend/preset did you use for testing? I just tried out a bit on Opus 4.6 and found that it kept just generating generic non-erotic fantasy elements rather than using the lorebook, or ignoring most of the lorebook entry for cursed items.
I'll give it a go on gemini 3.0 flash, it may have been the thinking that was interfering with it, but I figured I may as well check for preset recs, too.

>>11513829
You shouldn’t use any of the gigabrain frontier models for rp. They’re built for heavy coding and scientific research. Deepseek is easily smart enough and much much much cheaper

>>11513655
Seconding botbooru

>>11513918
Buy an ad.

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>>11513829
>generating generic non-erotic fantasy elements rather than using the lorebook
it might be an issue with how i set it up, or how your current Scan Depth is configured
i had to make each event various tiers of order, with random% of triggering - otherwise every time you see the word "item" in context you're loading 2,000+ tokens of random shit and the LLM just picks the first thing out of the pile every time (in my event, this was: bloon fizz, sculptor gauntlets, lustwolf - due to them being at the top of their respective categories at the time relative to potion, item and enemy)
when i set the various tiers and %trigger events, that's when i started to finally see randomness and variety, and the neatest part was that sometimes it would actually skip what i wrote in the lorebook to synthesize something new (like a "core of infinite ovulation" from a slime boss)
>What frontend/preset did you use for testing?
sillytavern, but my preset isn't anything special
it's one i got from an anon on /v/ years ago and slowly i've ended up stripping more and more out of it over time, i'm probably gonna shave more out of it tonight now that i'm reading it again
>develop the plot further with each turn.
this particular line is really fucking annoying since it makes the narrator unable to just sit still and look around at a room

erm anyway tl;dr - try messing with your Scan Depth for the lorebook thing, setting every trigger to 100% probably isn't the fix because it'll just do the thing where it takes first come first serve (first on the list=always happens)

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>it's another milkatronic on floor 1 episode
i'm starting to think the lorebook is a bit broken but i'm not sure how else to really make a "random shit appears" function

i'll try next with compiling them all into a "when doing a thing, use this list {{random::thing1,thing2,thing3,etc}}"
but even that's just kinda performative because half the time it'll read "thing1" and just full-send that because it's again first-in-first-out
lorebooks are fucky..

>>11513993
I see, I think it was more of a frontend issue than a model one, then. I'm using ME, which I think has parity with ST in terms of lorebook features, but doesn't seem to import some of the settings correctly. Everything in the lorebook was set to 100% trigger.
I also noticed that it really seemed to favor the Succubus Academy curse (probably because it was at the top of the insertion order?) which was particularly annoying since that sequence is so long.
I'll give it a try in plain ST instead and see how it works out.

>>11513950
>Implying the site owner needs to shill it here with the current explosive popularity botbooru us getting right now
Stay mad

people still used agnai? damn also lol @ the chub shitshow and lore cucking

>>11514201
>explosive popularity
Sounds like nice next target for moderation hammer.

Alas, the lifestyle of freedom of creation is a nomadic one.

>>11514233
>moderation hammer
From who

>>11514254
https://www.collectiveshout.org/chub-ai-geoblocked

>>11514084
>>11513557
small note,
i've identified an issue with the lorebook structure, in that every Event is tied to its Effect, so once a thing happens, it creates its own self-recursive domino effect where each future event is very likely to simply be a past event because the LLM is constantly having that particular event flashing in its periphery

working on fixing that by just making general effect groups now, oepsie woepsie

>>11514256
>WIN: AI chatbot enabling rape chats blocked
Works on my machine

>>11514317
They think they’re blocking rapists, but they’re actually denying subs from being treated how they like ;_;

>>11506877
Swap their genitalia

>>11514254
the same govt bodies and credit card companies who whack the other NSFW AI sites one by one.
and if its not NSFW shit getting em whacked, Nintendo has been going after the others over copyrighted characters.

>>11514505
Stream and MS too

>>11513557
>>11513829
lorebook updated alongside a few messier instructions, should be live on the chub page,

fixed!
TL;DR - Effects are now separate from Events, tracker corrected!
initially events and effects shared the same lorebook tab, so every effect (like 'Bovine') was then screaming its event (milkatronic) into the narrator's ear along with its purpose due to being captured as a tag in the tracker - which turned into a recursive thing where every 2nd room had a milkatronic in it and lead to extremely repetitious loops of interaction.
now, the event activates the tag, the tag sits in the tracker, the tag in the tracker only references the lorebook effect, so it creates a system where the effect cannot exist until the event creates it, and the event does not exist after the effect is applied.
also fixed 'loot/treasure' being a tag in the tracker - i'm retarded and it was activating everything in the lorebook keyed with 'loot' and 'treasure. now it's just 'inventory' which is separate from the rest.
also also, referenced the dungeon being The Undermountain, so that the LLM has more consistency to pull from with whatever scraped data your model has

>>11513655
The site got fixed btw

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>>11497518
Do you guys have one or more favorite botmakers?

>>11515481
pedo detected

>>11515481
Kill yourself.

>>11515498
>>11515507
OP of the thread here. There's nothing wrong with loli/shota/underage content fans being here. You seethers fuck off back to your safespace at Chub.

>>11515629
My "kill yourself" was in reference to botmakers trying to fish for compliments and namedrops. That's what those "erm... talk about botmakers???" posts are about.
Kill yourself, shill.

>>11515629
pedo detected

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You can always ignore posts you don't like you know, I didn't mentioned any names in particular so I seriously doubt you actually meant what you says.

>>11515630
>My "kill yourself" was in reference to botmakers trying to fish for compliments and namedrops.
This, the humblebrag self-advertising needs to stop.

>>11515646
What? Don't you wanna chatbot discussion in the chatbot thread? If you truly believe a post is self-advertising there is a Report option for that but personally I don't see any rules being broken here, just excuses to hijack a discussion prompt because there was a (safe-for-work) picture of a little girl attached to it.

>>11515630
This, the personality cults that develop around them made /vg/ and /g/ nigh unusable.

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Any cool pixie bots?
>>11513557
Really liked that bot bro, good work

>>11515649
Regardless, I feel that nowadays I mostly just write my own cards to cater to my specific kinks. Nowadays models are so good that even my shitty cards yield results similar to the majority of cards, not to mention that there are numerous cards that help you make your own card with similar results (just generally inefficient token-wise). I feel the only reasons (apart from getting inspirations, which you can get from other sources like doujins and whatnot) I look for other people's cards nowadays is when they do something technically impressive like having actual card games built in or even just a fancy stat block

>>11515649
I want to talk about cards but no-one posts cards and whenever I've asked about cards no-one responds. .

Recommend your best dickgirl bots that breed fempovs NOW

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>>11513868
If you're using cards or are capable of making stuff start to finish then yeah but Opus is very helpful with specifics and things you might have missed if the temp is high enough or if you just want to spit out a setting or something.

>>11515727
Let's talk cards. =w=
>thought for ~2 minutes, cute dummy
Angel's Venture, I made Angel go 666 coins in debt becuz gambling and she has to spend an hour subjected to Siles' whim for each. I was churning through GLM-4.5-Flash ('cuz it's truly free slop) while doing other things and this one stuck out. I really liked it and I don't think I wanna finish that chat, it hit its peak. Does this count as human furniture? Anyhow, I wish I pumped out cards like cum from a futa cock but alas I am more of a botconsoomer than a botmakie.

>>11515481
Letting autists control what you can and cannot say even when its on-topic is kind of pathethic, anyways I like Lumiveri, makes some cool worldbuilding cards and sometimes futanari bots too

Is it just me or does Deepseek make the cards feel.... soulless?
Like the dialogue is just flat and uninteresting with no emotion behind it.

>>11516344
I noticed that too for some forms of writing. Ended up with GLM5 instead and that had the excitement I wanted

>>11516344
It can be mitigated by good presets to a point, but ultimately Deepseek just isn't as powerful as some other LLMs out there. It's definitely among the most cost-effective, but as far as quality goes it's hard to beat Claude or Gemini

>>11516344
Deepseek recently went through some updates that made it more censored. You can make it do things that you want, but you basically have to bully it into doing so, which is annoying.

>>11516437
What censors, it’s never refused anything for me and I’m using it daily

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>>11497518
Hi, so I come from the image generation side of the AI stuff, so I've stumbled across your thread by accident, and this is something I've been interested on but I've never taken the plunge, but with this one being /d/ related I hope you can help me. I would like to create mind control scenarios for strategic fapping purposes. I already gen images to support my weird stories, might as well gen the words for them.

Pic related for example, is one of the scenarios I'm thinking of, the hot sister wearing skimpy clothing at home, the brother who stumbles across a magical hypno maguffin, and the discovery of how it works when he jokingly tells his sister if she's that overheated she should just go bottomless cause she's at home and between family, nothing will happen right?

I already installed both SillyTavern and Ollama, I am working with a 5070ti 16GB, and 32 GB of normal RAM. I was gonna upgrade to 64GB, and then normal RAM prices went nuts. I am looking to basically write short stories, so less chatting and more creativity. if you can point me in the right direction that would be greatly appreciated.

>>11516543
For local stuff the OP in >>>/g/lmg is pretty good I think.

>>11516543
You might wanna check out gemma 4
i can run gemma 4 26b and your hardware is better then mine so you can probably run gemma 4 31b
you're going to want a model like this https://huggingface.co/llmfan46/gemma-4-31B-it-uncensored-heretic-GGUF which removes the censorship included in the base model or this https://huggingface.co/llmfan46/gemma-4-Ortenzya-The-Creative-Wordsmith-31B-it-uncensored-heretic-GGUF which has additional fine-tuning for better creative writing
i remember ollama being a bit hard to use if you want to add an additional model that's not included by default so maybe check out lm studio which is what i use

>>11516561
>>11516566
Thank you for the tips. Downloading the models as we speak, if anyone else has ideas or suggestions please let me have them.

>>11516573
fair warning local LLMs are kinda frustrating, dumb and not very good at 'getting' things without heavy explanation (and even then they'll swing and miss pretty frequently)
get an api key from google (aistudio route) if you don't mind paying what sounds like $3~ a month for your short stories, it's pay-as-you-go rather than flat subscription
openrouter if you wanna try deepseek, v4 is pretty decent now

>>11516614
I ran local 8b for years and it was fine once I got my setup locked in. You just gotta know its limits and finetune your prompts well

>>11516566
Different anon, tried gemma-4-31B-it-uncensored-heretic-Q4_K_M.gguf but either I messed up my config or something, or it seems kinda garbage for ERP. Easily confused as to who is who, and is more descriptive rather than assuming a persona and direct speech. Will try some more settings and cards in case I missed something.

At least compared to Maginum-Cydoms-24B.i1-Q5_K_M.gguf which I use.

>>11517499
Is there a guide to whish .ggufs to use or is it kind of just wing it browsing huggingface?

>>11517766
There’s some research required to understand how this shit works so do that, then ask in g/lmg. I like wingless imp 8b.

One technique I use is to check what AIs are currently most used on kobold horde. Let the general public do the research for me

>>11517766
Biggest you can get to fit the model entirely within your card with wiggle room for context. You generally don't want it partially loaded onto your GPU with the rest offloaded onto your System RAM since it's going to get significantly slower. On Huggingface you can set what card(s) you have and it will tell you what quant size you can reasonably run.
Q4 and above is usually a safe bet. Most people don't recommend going lower unless you're desperate.

>>11517780
>On Huggingface you can set what card(s) you have
Where can I do this? I'd love an option like this but I cant find it.
I've been asking ChatGPT which ones to download and I either get models that generate instantly but are retarded, or ones where I have time to take a nap before they're done genning.

>>11517847
You have to make an account first. Once you do
Profile > Settings > Local Apps and Hardware > Add New Hardware

Note that in some cases, like with Gemma MoE models which are ridiculously fast, you can probably comfortably run larger models than Huggingface implies.

>>11517847
Retard you don’t need a website to count how much ram your pc has

>>11517858
Yeah, no shit Einstein, but it's still nice to have the website filter it for you.

>>11517849
oh its in there, thanks anon.

>>11517879
yeah this, there's fucking 1000s of files on the site and they all promise that they're the best ever AI with no faults or issues.

> I have 8gb of ram
> search for 7b and below
lol how are you ppl so stupid that something like this is too hard

ollama run deepseek-r1

>>11500452
What models have you used for these cards? I've been trying some of them but the models constantly shit themselves and end up tripping with even the mildest of reality alterations

>>11518113
Deepseek never fails me

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i will once again recommend lm studio. you can view any llm on huggingface and it'll automatically calculate based on your gpu and ram if it fits, will work if you offload or won't fit at all
it also has an interface where you can converse with the model directly as well as an api for use in separate programs like sillytavern