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>>3068532>literal slop as op piclmao fitting
>>3068533Requesting a girl wearing a silicone bra.
>artist lora bakers bakinglet's gooo
>>3068542It's a really nice image.
>>3068542For IA schizo slop is high art.
>>3068539
>>3068555>shark teeth Neruhot
>>3068546
>>3068533How about one of these again?Three versions of the same girl (OC or existing character, whatever you feel like)
>>3068560
>>3068561I'm gonna need some boxs here anon
>>3068533Requesting topless jeans pinups of Lynae (Wuthering Waves).
>>3068563Sure, it's just three fairly simple prompts though.regular https://litter.catbox.moe/yf1daxq8ny88d38b.pnggyaru https://litter.catbox.moe/ep7oggfltf7h9s76.pnggoth https://litter.catbox.moe/vqs1slfpnmjdzdzi.png
fyi the repo recommended LR of 0.00002 for Anima LoRAs might be good for animé styles or for reinforcing artists the model already knows.if you're doing a Western art style or a lesser-known artist, you'll need to go a bit harder. I suggest at least 5e-5
>>3068560I prompted it, but my heart was not ready for gyaru ver
>>3068574hnngh
>>3068578That seems dangerous, Penny
>>3068578Ma'am, that's not the correct way to use a ladder!
>>3068533Requesting Flannery sunbathing naked
>>3068586would all three
>>3068602Only thing that bothers me is that I cannot see Goths dressing like nightclub whores. nightclub wear for a goth involves a lot more leather and fishnets.
>>3068528man when I see this pic, I remember this gif
>>3068560Can someone do an existing gyaru so that gyaru becomes her regular self, and you have to do an alternate costume for regular?
>>3068608I imagine the "pink" version of the normal-gyaru is excessively pink themed mahou shoujo or something.
>>3068578Get this moist bitch away from the BOOKS
>>3068602>>3068604>>3068612Prompt?
>>3068612lol
>>3068533Requesting Isane celebrating a birthday while she's in her birthday suit
>>3068614https://litter.catbox.moe/oyflo7jg7egyd364.png
>>3068589box?
https://youtu.be/Hesi16U8NXQ?si=-1fU8bHWXUr9aNeY
>>3068633Can I ask for Misora?
>>3068533Requesting Moetron
Figured I'd ask here since it's the place where I would (eventually) postBefore I go down the slopping rabbithole, I wanna make sure: is it possible to gen interesting scenes with multiple characters? As in, groups of 5/6 characters doing different things within an actually coherent space, not just a lineup in a white scene; I'd assume there would be a lot of inpainting (?) involved or something like that?
>>3068652Yes. Research regional prompterOr wait for models like Anima to get better
>>3068652This would actually take skill at photoshopping, understanding how the models work and a lot of inpainting. I don't think you'll ever be able to do it.
>>3068652It's possible, but it would require a decent amount of work. Also, that's not even something real artist do often and consistently enough for models to learn.
>>3068533Once again requesting on-model/art accurate nudify of this character:>https://static.atlasacademy.io/JP/CharaGraph/405000/405000a@2.png
>>3068657Why can't you just fucking type "suzuka gozen (swimsuit rider)" instead of having people guess based on a tiny png you cretinous faggot?
Is there an agreed upon best Comfy workflow for multiple characters in a single frame? I'm messing around with latent couple pose right now but not working well
>>3068654That's a bit funny because I am kinda good with Photoshop, I actually used to do paid commissionsBut obviously this is a whole different deal, I can't just add in stuff like drawn shadows and ambient occlusion and coherent lighting without.. well without drawing them manually, which kinda defeats the purpose>>3068655Oh I realise there's no training for it, that's why I mentioned inpaintingMy idea would be slopping up a scenery with one character doing X with costume A and then add other characters doing Y or Z in costume A. Nothing too extreme obviously, something like dancing or posing, but slightly more elaborate than a simple lineup on a white background>>3068653Naisu, that's a really good tip
>>3068652Link an example image of what you would like to do. It's definitely not an ideal use case for AI, but depends on how close together the girls are. Main issue comes from screen space/resolution, AI struggles to simplify features of objects and characters further away from the camera the way an artist would (or LOD in videogames), it attempts to produce full detail with not enough pixels and fails miserably. There are workarounds but they're a lot more involved than just writing a prompt.
>>3068678>link an examplehttps://konachan.com/post/show/345734 or https://konachan.com/post/show/371061 are the first examples I can think of, with added complexity for stuff like those typical hot springs views and reduced complexity for "sitting on a bench at equal distance from the camera"I guess perspective could be a problem as well, but I have no clue how actually capable these new models are (I had only looked into this in '24 and obviously things weren't there yet) hence my question; that being said, I'm perfectly ok with these things being more involved than a simple 1-2-3 process, I'd much rather get a couple of dream pics than shit out hundreds of basic copycats
>>3068640A dress made only of flowers is possible?
>>3068661First off, if they're named characters you can just mention their names and features/actions they share, let the AI figure out their clothes and expressions from its own knowledge: https://litter.catbox.moe/pel9aqd9rc4kjn0g.pngSecond, if you're on Anima just prompt "girl on the left has X and does Y, girl on the right etc." There's usually no need for regional: https://litter.catbox.moe/u646oo92x2p5b08e.png---regional starts here---If you're using latent mode you might as well use built-in nodes and not complicate things: https://litter.catbox.moe/axwppbmtg6wt8we0.pngI recommend leaving the "overall" prompt in all areas. Instead of putting it in a separate one covering he whole image as was the old practice.Attention mode is easier to work with, but every implementation I've seen was a bit wonky, each in a different way (and there's at least three of them): https://litter.catbox.moe/zh94luwyvmguw4ad.pngLet me know if you have questions, I'm bored.
>>3068688Yeah that seems perfectly doable, and the second one is basically a lineup. I was worried that you meant something like https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/5811423
>>3068658That's a direct rip from the game at the highest resolution available for it retard
Has anyone tried using Anima on Forge Neo?
>>3068694are you retarded
>>3068692The point that got lost somewhere in your guys' argument is that anyone filling the request will need to know her name.
>>3068694>>3068695yes
>>3068652>is it possible to gen interesting scenes with multiple characters? No.
>>3068691The maximum level of complexity would be something like https://konachan.com/post/show/326999, I still want the characters to be fully visible and recognisableBut this has been encouraging, and anon's writeup above is a good starting point on where to eventually look once I got the basics. Thanks anons!>>3068698aieeeeeeeee I yield I yield
>>3068663>I am kinda good with Photoshop, I actually used to do paid commissionsOne random guy on Discord once asked him to Photoshop his ex's head onto a porn scene, and thanked him with a $5 Steam voucher
>>3068533Requesting girls at the beach wearing a sarong but no bikini bottom. Top is optional
Why is the quality of these threads declining?
>>3068698Guess it depends on what you consider interesting. I've tried a few before with just a raw regional prompt.>>>/u/4468442/u/ actually does a ton of regional, but only 2girls>>>/h/8237700Or with a more involved process>>>/h/8110906https://litter.catbox.moe/3t4nxuonc5tyikz3.png>>3068663You can sketch your own lineart or blobs of color, and have AI use it as a reference for where to place characters, the relative size, poses, distances, etc. Gives you a lot more control.
>>3068702Because of you, let's be honest.
>>3068699I did this up in illustriuous about a year ago and it took a lot of time and inpainting to still end up with imperfect results. I haven't tested many girls in anima yet though.
>>3068699I can tell you how I'd recreate that post you linked, using SD and Photoshop, and it may be a good approach to making your multiple-person image.The 5 girls would be one gen each, on a white background. White background so that you can isolate the subject. They are basically clones of each other, with small differences in hair and hair ornaments. Those 5 gens then become 5 Photoshop layers that you arrange, as in the post, with some overlap. Now you can see that the backdrop is just an extra layer beneath them (layer 6, or 0 since it's on the bottom). The girls aren't interacting with the environment in any way, only with their own bodies and the objects they are holding. So that simplifies things massively.You can then add the girls' shadows and lower the shadow opacity to blend with the backdrop. You said you can't just add drawn shadows? But you can. Looking at that post, the shadows follow the outline of the girls' bodies. You mentioned ambient occlusion, but that's not an issue in a 2D scene.Layer 7 would then be the shadow of the tree canopy, on top of everything else. That can be painted with basic leaf-shaped brushes.The trickiest part (and it's not that hard) would be the backdrop, because it needs to be 3-4 times the dimensions of whatever resolution you're generating the girls at. I'd do it as one single gen, then blow it up to the final dimensions you want, and then inpaint whole segments of it, like tiles. You may also require some inpainting on the seams where the tiles meet.Then you'd do the usual stuff to combine everything. Gradient maps, lighting, filters, etc. I'm missing steps, but that's the gist of it.
>>3068707Just be sure to generate every girl from the same height/angle. You add the shadows later, when you decide where the global light source is. You can normally generate drop shadows, but you can't for this piece because they'll all appear at different angles.
>>3068699>The maximum level of complexity would be something like https://konachan.com/post/show/326999that's like basic regional prompter stuff
>>3068651
>>3068690Interesting, I haven't been genning for like over a year so I'm out of date with stuff. I'll look into Anima
>>3068713booooooox
>>3068718https://files.catbox.moe/ikkfer.png
>>3068707That's some impressive Photoshop skill. But isn't it wasting the potential of AI when you do so much of the work yourself? If you have a composition in mind just sketch it out like a 3-yo with crayons, then use regional prompter together with controlnet.
>>3068719Thank you!
>>3068689Not 100% but pretty close.
>>3068723there's a /u/ thread bwo...
>>3068725i guess it did evolve into yuri as i refined it
>>3068726she's literally getting fingerblastedalso you forgot to check your fingies
>@mdfanise is just my gens but betterThis is so much better than illustrious. I'm thrilled.
>>3068707>>3068710Yep, makes perfect senseThanks for the writeup anon, I'll keep it saved up for when I have my setup ready and going>>3068720This too, sketching is something I would have never thought of
>>3068727fingers are fine although i can see it trying to add shading where you could mistaked it as a 6th finger. either way it's throwaway fap material
>>3068730the front girl's left hand clearly has 6 fingers, that is not a shadow, that's a line
>>3068731https://files.catbox.moe/4cv1pa.pngcool story bro. like i said >i can see it trying to add shading where you could mistake it as a 6th finger>>3068728glad you like it. i wanted the style with less artifacting and synthetic datasets are ridiculously fast to train on so i had fun. training a lora on your gens for noob and illustrious also would've had a similar effect of keeping the style without having as many artifacts
>>3068720It depends how much detail you want, I guess. Those 3 figures occupy relatively few pixels in the whole image compared to a 1girl image. So if I were doing that composition, I'd blow it up and then inpaint details for each figure individually. Which is just as much effort as the method I talked about.Regional prompter is useful, though, for sure. I'd use it more as a tool to get a draft of the final thing, to visualise what I'm aiming for
>>3068736nice
>>3068692Are you genuinely too retarded to understand that you need to know the character name to prompt it?
>>3068732NTA, but I agree, the fingers are fucked. Why are you taking it so personally? It's not like you drew it. The AI did. Suck it up, bro
>>3068739not bad 4/10 attempt at instigating shitposting
>>3068658You know that "touch grass" meme is based on a real thing? I swear to God, go outside for five minutes, feel the sunlight on your face, listen to the birdsong. You won't feel the need to direct this kind of unwarranted aggression at strangers in a porn thread.
>>3068741holy reddit responseyou're the one who's REQUESTING porn, retard
>>3068657wdym? you want gens of her?
>>3068732>synthetic datasets are ridiculously fast to train on so i had funI'm glad you had fun, sweetie.
>>3068741You are requesting porn for a gacha character and assuming everyone knows her by name, you don't get to tell anyone to go touch grass, you fucking spastic.
>>3068740nta and just seeing random shit now, but yeah that hand is slightly fucked.it's hard to explain but the ring finger and pinky are wonky. The ring finger is too close in to the middle finger and the pinky is too far away from the ring finger. The two fingers are basically taking 3 fingers worth of space. also there's a bit of a weird overlap between the thumb and index finger where the lineweight is too thick in an incorrect angle.
>>3068742Lol, no, I'm not the guy you have beef with. I didn't make the request. I'm just a bystander calling you out for your unwarranted, toxic outburst.Wait, did you think this was a private chat?
>>3068745Yeah, again, NTA. Just calling you out. Nobody else in this thread thinks your communication style is healthy or normal, either
>>3068747again this response reeks of reddit
>>3068746>>3068740>>3068739>>3068732also nta but i agree with the other two anons. that hand is really bad and should have been inpainted before posting. if you'd like my advice, do a final check for faces and hands before signing off on a gen. ai is notoriously bad at hands. look up adetailer
lol
Just fix the fingers in the bag, lil bro.
>ai is notoriously bad at handsa few years ago, yeah
>>3068469dream woman>>3068471love the detail on this one>>3068477don't mind if i do>>3068561>>3068736nice
>>3068701
>>3068701Simple enough, why not! Anyway hello /edg/!>>3068555I almost missed this one, lovely Neru.>>3068753Sadly anima seems to have trouble with it, but it also isn't a finished model, so I guess it's not a fair comparison.
>>3068657I tried
>meant to crop>didn't mean to replyfuck my bakachud life
>>3068666>>3068733hot damn>>3068706nice composition
>>3068533/r/ a very slutty wedding dress and slutty slippers
>>3068761Never expected asou (asabu202) to be such prolific outdoors scenic background illustrator!
>>3068560Shinobu might get mistaken for a gyaru regularly due to her darker skin and light hair, but she can dress more up the part. I also like her cute attempt at being goth.
>>3068766cute!
>>3068560Took a shot at it.
>>3068750also nta but I agree with everyone else don't post extra fingers in my porn please
/slop/ is a fucking hellscape so I'm just gonna post here today (/e/ content only of course)Big fox.
>>3068774Wait, today is more of a hellscape than usual? I thought you just got used to it. Welcome, anyway.
>>3068766very cute>>3068771that's hot
>>3068774Lovely kitsune, what a cute expression!
>>3068775Three simultaneous threads, all full of retard screaming. I don't wanna think about it, I just want to post cute girls.>>3068776>>3068777Thanks! And nice trips.
>>3068634It was bugging me that I posted the wrong upscale version of this pic. So here's the correct one.
>>3068774>>3068778Foxhole please?
>>3068780inb4 don't spaminb4 they're both slopinb4 when are you posting the good oneinb4 that's /aco/
>>3068780Nice gen man!
>>3068781Sorry for the wait.
>>3068785Cuuutie!
>>3068560>https://files.catbox.moe/6e09ji.jpeg>https://files.catbox.moe/66kjtk.jpeg>https://files.catbox.moe/1b997n.jpeg
>>3068786Thanks! Anything else? I'm up for requests in general.
>>3068701>>3068732thanks, i'm having a lot of fun with it.
>>3068794nice variation on the theme. boxes?
>>3068764You get half of your request cause I've already been trying to get slutty footwear for my own strategic purposes many times in the past, and it's quite frankly not worth the effort.
>>3068795There isn't any embedded metadata so they won't help you on that front. But if you just want the full images I can post them.
>>3068797i was looking forward to the meta, actually
>>3068798It's just nova anime XL v17.01girl, solo, grey panties, close-up, dark blue pleated skirt, skinny, upskirt, panty focus, pantyshot, ass focus, crotch seam, underwear, panties under pantyhose, pantyhose, long hair, pink hair, detailed art, detailed hair, detailed eyes, anime coloring,Change the tags for each style. Nothing fancy.
>>3068802Oops wrong one.
>>3068560shimpuru isu besuto>>3068799thank you
>>3068728What all are you using?
>>3068657https://litter.catbox.moe/gh1oqmi84vx92wn2.jpg
>3068782So you are just another tard who thinks that life has some magic cheat codes that enable you to go full asshole whenever you want.Real human beings get over that childish crap before they enter secondary school.
>>3068560>>3068809Anima with some black market loras
>>3068814>goth Zelda>not Hilda
>>3068816i was distracted by gyaru zelda
>>3068533Re-requesting your take on a Racing Queen Vocaloid IA. Some examples:>https://gelbooru com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3473788>https://gelbooru com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3473789>https://gelbooru com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3473791But by all means do your take. Make it /e/-friendly (topless, bottom exposed, etc) if at all possible. Thank you for your time.
>>3068748>is healthy or normal, eitherwhere do you think we are
>>3068824Probably in his hugbox discord channel where they ban you for saying "hell" on main.
>>3068823Cute kitty! Love the back view~
>>3068735Right. One advantage of doing them in a single pass is that they get uniform lighting, and can interact better with the environment or with each other. Of course that does mean you'll end up upscaling to like 4K, which could take minutes. Best to already have enough detail in place so that you can inpaint at very low denoise and not lose these things.
Posting my ideal fantasy harem, Nr.1, elf mage
>>3068829Nr. 2, half-deer druid
>>3068830Nr. 3, thick necromancer goth gf
>>3068825oh no not the heckin aych ee double hockey sticks!!
>>3068831Nr. 4, goblin jester. Any more ideas?
>>3068834Don't really have any ideas, but these are pretty creative.
>>3068830Satyrs are so cute. Hnnnngh, love 'em!
>>3068836my first thought was he looks like the boy from PSG
>never get highlighted>he doesnt return my smooches>doesnt like my 1girl povs on /h/
>>3068843perhaps you should change your approach
>>3068812Huh?
>>3068845Why would you even give attention to such an indirect reply
>>3068825>>3068833Are you having a good laugh at my expense? I wasn't going to say anything but you have pushed me to it... You are both very rude!!
>>3068843Perhaps you should stop trying to have a parasocial relationship with some other guy on 4channel who is obessed with getting to be OP of an ecchi slop sharing general.
>>3068834>>3068831>>3068830>>3068829Are these Anima? Very clean style as well as cool concept and good execution. Would you mind sharing a catbox?
>>3068834Nr. 5, Genie fighter
>>3068850Nr. 6, soft cleric mommy
>>3068851Best girl right here.
>>3068851>>3068850>>3068834>>3068831>>3068830>>3068829we have a sanctioned template for this, friend. The one and original templatehttps://files.catbox.moe/56ulob.png
>>3068849Yup, newest version of anima, style is the same on all.Also, Nr. 7, chubby succubus-cyclops hybridhttps://files.catbox.moe/96gw52.png
>>3068854No space for my druid, no shot
>>3068560This gave me an idea for a manga/LN I of course never will work on.Three childhood friends, one is a gyaru, another is a goth, he is a dead pan. Romcom antics and missunderstanding during 12 volumes. Nothing happens>>3068823Very cute and puffy Fufu, can I get her on a box?
ez flight, without a flying spell
>>3068855Amazing. You are spoiling us with this series. Are you on Patreon? If not, would you ever consider doing paid commissions?
>>3068862They wear panties of each others' signature colors btw, we learn this early in the first season
>>3068853Oh you are still alive. Haven't stolen any of your mixes for a while (˶˃ω˂˶)
>Anime Anima Anima AnimaBuy an ad.
I watched Agent Aika and Aika Virgin Mission last night. Pretty mediocre aside from the opening theme song of Agent Aika. I liked all the asses though
>>3068872it's crazy how desperate they are to get people to stop supporting civitai and switch to comfycloud or whatever their service is called. They aren't doing a good job though, all these anima gens are really ugly and basic, I guess there is no beating the years of refining SDXL had by the community. These shills should have waited until they something as good as Illustrious before trying to advertise here.
>>3068874I think its only the same that happenned to other models, people just want to show they are using the most recent new stuff, even if that stuff aesthetically looks like shit (even if it shows promise)Pony looked like shit, didn't really becamse meta until autism mix came outIllustrious looked like shit, didn't really became meta until wai became a thing.Noob is the only one that was a thing as base since the point of noob was being more like a blank canvas you can mold.I guess anima will be the same, right now looks like shit aesthetically even if the model is good at composing images. It won't become a thing until some good mix comes out that gives aesthetic instant results
>>3068831>>3068860gives me a bonerCan you do her at the beach wearing a micro bikini and suggestively eating some ice cream that drips onto her?
>>3068877>the point of noob was being more like a blank canvas you can moldThat much goes for every base model. The reason Autismmix even came out is that people recognized Pony was a massive upgrade over SD1.5 and Animagine in all but aesthetics, and we started using it. It only "became meta" on /e/ two months later because you're always behind on adoption.
>>3068880people here have an established style and care more about genning their thing than trying to make new tech workbut yes, someone has to
>>3068877Except for the fact that what people here consider "good aesthetic" is regression to the glossy sepia slop norm of every SDXL shitmix, whereas anima can consistently replicate artstyles.
watching retards that have no idea how anything works throw fits and get strung along by the obvious shitposter that wants to spread misinformation is always a weird experience.
>>3068857https://files.catbox.moe/g15hnh.png
>>3068883Which is not difficult to achieve on any model including this one, just pull a Cyberfix merging in some 3D or realism lora. Not to mention AnimaYume already has more civit downloads than the base model.
>>3068870they need to swap every so often to get the right feel in them
>>3068886That's because base anima is also available on huggingface and you can save yourself the trouble of dealing with civitai's shitty servers and kneecapped download speed.
also, i just forgot silly me
>>3068869mommy
>>3068877>Illustrious looked like shit, didn't really became meta until wai became a thing.lol>Noob is the only one that was a thing as base since the point of noob was being more like a blank canvas you can mold.are you retarded. noob was trained on illustrious. i'm genuinely convinced edg and hdg are just filled with retarded civitai jeets at this point
>>3068866What are you on about, this is AI generated, I doubt anybody would pay for this shit :D>>3068860lul sure
>>3068893meant for >>3068879
>>3068892I suggest you don't base your opinion of an entire general on the opinions of one or two posters.
>>3068871Yeah I'm still posting occasionally.>Haven't stolen any of your mixes for a while (˶˃ω˂˶)Probably won't see anything exciting, I've been mostly regurgitating same stuff
>>3068893nta, loads of people pay for AI stuff. But it's all 50+ imageset dumps every few days, not individual requests.I wouldn't mind setting up a commission thing, could be fun but no idea how/where to start.
>>3068877>people just want to show they are using the most recent new stuffPure mind-reading. Just a sweeping claim about user motivation. Also "most recent new" is redundant>aesthetically looks like shit (even if it shows promise)Everything visual is, by definition, aesthetic. Saying aesthetically looks like shit is like saying "visually looks bad visually". It's meaningless. Just a catch-all to avoid naming actual flaws (details, color balance, style coherence, prompt response, etc.)>Pony didn't really becamse meta until autism mix came out>Illustrious didn't really became meta until wai became a thing.Meta by what metric? You gathered evidence of this or it's just your personal impression? Implying causation (mix=meta) without proving it>Noob is the only one that was a thing as base since the point of noob was being more like a blank canvas you can mold.Wait, first it's about "aesthetics", now it's about design intent? blank canvas? That's not comparable>looks like shit aesthetically even if the model is good at composing imagesThis implies composition is not part of aesthetics, which is just wrong. Composition is a core component of aesthetics>It won't become a thing until some good mix comes out that gives aesthetic instant resultsSo basically, it won't take off until it matches your personal taste. We're all hyped to know when that will be. Let us knowVerdict: Anon is mimicking insider talk without doing any thinking. "Looks like shit" is a substitute for any actual falsifiable critique. Most likely, anon is extremely mentally retarded. Possibly suffering from recent head trauma. I would recommend a dark room with no sharp objects or exposed electric sockets, and something soothing like a strawberry milkshake. No screen time for a good, long while
>>3068900>Meta by what metric? Most amount of resources avaliable. You may like it or not, it may be your pick or not, but is easy to say which model is the meta at the moment. You just need to go and look which model people is doing stuff for.>aesthetically looks like shit (even if it shows promise)Anima is being valued by its comprehesion of natural language in mix with tags, not because the images are good looking.>This implies composition is not part of aestheticsIf I want to make an image of a girl controlling magically a hairdryer and you try it on two different models, you can fine that one model understands the prompt better and perfectly places the hairdryer, but the image looks ugly as fuck, then you have an image with the other model where the girl looks good but the hairdryer is just someway floating around without proper aiming the girl or even worse, on the floor.That's the point we are now. Eventually the day will come when the model that can put the hairdryer aiming at the girl properly will ALSO good look, but today is not that day yet
>>3068855Nr. 8, final for now, vanilla human Landsknecht
>>3068900Verdict was shitpost, and you just gave it legitimacy when it could've stayed buried and forgotten
>>3068902"ugly as fuck" is relative and leads into people assuming you mean AOM/WAI generic visualsWe should talk about specifics.
>>3068903I love these character roster building things,can you edit these into a lineup? I want to see how they scale beside eachother
>>3068902>Most amount of resources avaliableThe only "resource" anima is missing compared to noob/illu is controlnet, which is mostly unnecessary since you can actually control what the model does through text conditioning alone.>not because the images are good lookingI don't like it =/= bad looking
>>3068907like this
>>3068902>but the image looks ugly as fuckYeah, again, what gets me is this subjective wording that you all use...looks like dogshit,looks like shit,ugly as fuck...And it makes me hesitant to reply because I think it's a troll post. It's vague and avoids committing to a falsifiable claim about the output images. Like, what? Weak color harmony? Oversaturated? Anatomy? Style coherence? Can you show us some side-by-side comparisons? Help us define your internal definition of what "good" looks like. Otherwise, this is all I hear: my magic button that draws bewbs is better than your magic button that draws bewbs
>>3068851Requesting cleric bringing a delivery of milk to the necro's haunted castle. It's good for bone development...
>arguing with nogens
>>3068908I think the biggest issue is when a new model comes out that is actually promising then people are hesitant about adopting it because they have to give up what they know to some extent. Anima is still new enough that people haven't fully figured out the optimal way to do things. I still struggle with what quality tags and negatives I want to use with it. There is also the fact that artist mixing is a bit harder on it. People also have to give up their lora collections and if they cannot train their own loras then it turns into a question of "Will anyone ever train this for anima?"Anima is a very promising model that I'm having fun with, but I can also train my own loras so if I'm missing a style or character or concept then I can just make a lora for anima.
>>3068912His argument is literally asking for gens, so I think you're on the same page.
>>3068909you forgot vocaloid ia
>>3068911
>>3068910Ok, I think that's a fair point, sometimes to simplify things we rely on "subjectve wording"If you want more specifics about what I mean by looking ugly is, the shapes look too basic, like tits being just circles, the perspective of the image being too frontal so the girl is looking at the camera all two shoulders perfectly alineated as if was a portrait on an status screen or a character sheet (which is perfectly fine if you are doing a character sheet but not if you are trying to make the girl appear sitting casually on a bed), the borders of the image look too sharp and even sketchy (despite not aiming for an sketchy style which would be also fine), the coloring of the face is different to the coloring of the rest of the body, like the face has a very clear "cell shading" that makes it look very anime while the rest of the body the shading looks more rounded and soft
>>3068918Lol, okay, so it was a troll post. Godammit
>>3068918That sounds like you're describing a specific image.
>>3068917Yessssss
>>3068921No, no, don't engage
>>3068925Isn't Prinz Eugen always the bartender? not like there's a canon bar in Azur Lane, but every time I see her in an alternate outfit is behind the bar or something similar.
>>3068926t bh I have no idea if Norca drinks either, haven't played it in like 7 years
Two of these are WAI-Shuffle-Noob with V-Prediction. People said I was being unfair using v1 of Illustrious last time, so I switched to a popular NoobAI fine-tune instead. 2nd most downloads (after base NoobAI) and 4th most liked on Civit.The other two are Anima Preview 3.I pulled a random Danbooru post and trimmed it down to 150 tokens. Same positive and negative prompts across both models. Only difference is Anima uses @ for the artist tag (arikanrobo).Ran a batch of 4 for each and picked the two I’d actually bother sending to upscale/edit.I’ll post the full prompt later, but not rn since people tried to game it last time. I prompted for “heart-shaped pupils” as a hint. Neg was minimal: “worst quality, blurry background, extra arms.”Neither of these looks like shit, so maybe the thread can drop the whole polarised “this vs that” bs
>>3068929B and C are anima 3
>>3068929Seems like it was already dropped, before you brought it back up? And won't this just look like you cherry-picked an artist that looks fine? I'm pretty sure you did.The base model is always more creative and capable of a wider range of styles, anatomy, poses and compositions. If you like the /e/ usual, it obviously cannot compete with the likes of WAI and similar merges that layers 2.5D over most of the model's knowledge, biasing all four of those towards the lowest common denominator. My argument is that you can easily do this yourself, should you wish to >>3065363 >>3064900 and don't have to wait for someone to produce some magical merge.
>>3068929only need to look at the eye to know B and C are anima.
>>3068929>WAIaaaand is shit
>>3068932Right, because of the halved VAE compression it's like you're genning in 2K already.
>>3068929>generic slop with melted details from shit VAE>vs>actually looks like the artist, has sharp and clear detailsI honestly don't know how people are still doubting Anima at this point. It matches, if not exceeds, the anatomy and consistency of the most optimized SDXL shitmixes, while being a fucking BASE model. All the artist styles are preserved and unslopped, and the model has good variety and seed diversity. Models like base Noob don't fuck the styles but are absolute schizo compared to Anima.
>>3068935It boils down to a lot of people just being used to the WAI style and the model being so limited by the incestuous mixing it went through that any kind of bullshit they write will produce something at least passable, while something like anima or base noob require you to experiment a little. Add the fact that you can't gen anima for free on a site like civitai and you get the hostility towards it.
>>3068931No, dude, I was attempting to stop the dichotomy. I don't have a bias. Just comparing the model outputs for a random prompt>won't this just look like you cherry-picked an artist that looks fine? I'm pretty sure you did.No, I literally just grabbed the artist from my last opened workflow in Comfy. I don't expect anyone to judge these models' style coherence based on one artist alone. The artist tag was just to give the gens some flavor
>>3068938They aren't running locally, so downloading a model does nothing for them.
>>3068939yeah sorry i'm dumb and misread it
>grid comparing anima to base illustrious>"Why comparing base anima to base pony and base illustrious? If we are discussing what's better right now you need to compare them in their current state, whatever that state is.">grid comparing anima to noob fine-tune>"The base model is always more creative and capable of a wider range of styles, anatomy, poses and compositions"Lol the goalposts are nebulous phase shifting shadowforms at this point
>>3068929I mean the kind of artifacts NAI produces are distinctive, so you can tell anyway (>>3068930 is right).Personally I've found that Anima is still quite awkward with hands. C is a good example of that.Overall Anima is definitely promising but not a drop-in replacement for your typical 1girl gens yet.
>>3068857>Can we have Haganai?>no, we have Haganai at homeI'd probably watch it though.
I think the Anima fingers are awkward due to positioning, but I prefer their form. It's probably from the artist tag.I think I've looked at too much AI and become desensitised to the usual shiny clay sausages that NAI is doing here
>>3068941this is why you listen to your penis
>>3068821hard to be ecchi with race queens
>>3068694I tried, it doesn't work.Now, technically Forge Neo runs it, and generates the image.But aside of generating it at an incredibly slow pace it pretty much seems to ignore the prompt.If you want to make a girl standing with blonde hair it will generate it. But it won't generate properly characters with 10k or even 15k entries in the boorus without you giving traits. It even struggles to obey you with basic things like making a"pink dress" pink, it will generate it in any color it wants.It also seems to struggle with lot of basic concepts like mechanical arms or even "vest"Now, then again we are talking about Forge Neo. It seems to work fine in comfy ui though, but in Neo it simply doesn't work properly.And then again if you want to gen some random girl naked sunbathing will work, but beyond that seems non functional in neo when it comes to generating what you want.
How is anima's mecha musume game?
>>3068953what are the core tags? armored_gloves and armored_boots?
>>3068951Your upscale is messed up
>>3068951>If you want to make a girl standing with blonde hair it will generate it. But it won't generate properly characters with 10k or even 15k entries in the boorus without you giving traits. It even struggles to obey you with basic things like making a"pink dress" pink, it will generate it in any color it wants.It does characters with less than 1k posts just fine, with only a few supporting tags. Something is horribly wrong with your setup or prompting if it is giving you this much trouble.
>>3068954blue bodysuit, power armor, police uniform, body armor, arm guard, but I also had a 1girl,1boy prompt that causes the dude in the background.
>>3068951I think you may want to reinstall neo, pull if you haven't or possibly look at your generation settings including your sampler and scheduler. I got curious so I did a quick test where I specified the color of certain parts of the outfit and it was bang on each time.
>>3068958box that image so I can recreate and compare
>>3068954mecha musume is a properly working tag already
>>3068950Those outfits are often erotic enough without outright nudity
>>3068959https://litter.catbox.moe/o08krv0f3ap1202n.pngLitterbox'd it because Catbox seems fucked right now.
>>3068542its crazyi can see why people often perceive him as a troll
>>3068953I forgot an artist prompt so it gave me this. Figure OP might enjoy it at least. Also, accidentally prompted arm_blade instead of blade_arm.>>3068954nta but should be "mechanical" not "armored"also "mecha_musume" is itself a tag
>>3068962>>3068958This is what I get https://litter.catbox.moe/lj704cvkjrkvmisx.pngIs the last forge neo I reinstalled from scratch a couple of days ago
>>3068967I don't think you are using the text encoder which is qwen_3_06b_base because it is missing from your metadata. That would honestly explain why the model is struggling so much for you.
>>3068968Yep, you are right, thanks.Probably I didn't move it when I reinstalled neo forge from scratch a couple of days ago
For convenience you can use this: https://gofile.io/d/9qPAGEIt's Anima preview 3 with the Unet+TE+VAE all packaged together, like in the SDXL days. Pic >>>/h/8857588>>3068968I wonder which TE it was using then, if it didn't crash.
>>3069000good
>>3069001Thank
So... can we conclude that the lifespan of a model is about one year aprox before the next things comes out?
>>3068764
>>3069017it's 2 weeks
>>3069017I don't conclood. I backup everything locally under the assumption that AI regulation could crack down, china could invade taiwan and GPUs become prewar relics, the pipes carrying internet under the sea get clogged, etc. Just treat everything like it's the best we're gonna get, until it isn't.
>>3069000Can I get a catbox meta data for the nurse?
>>3069023Which one? there's 3 nurses of increasing sluttyness.
>>3069024top row in middle.
It's so funny to see you guys arguing about which new model is better, in this thread of all threads. I'm an /e/ regular but I check this thread from time to time, for the occasional gem.You guys have bigger problems than which model to use. The culture, or the "meta", of this thread, ie. what's acceptable, what looks good...it is very far removed from anything else on /e/, on Danbooru, in actual animé or in manga. And that applies to 80% of posts here, at least. This thread has become a hyperreality where what looks good is compared to other AI art, and that AI art is compared to AI art that came before it, and so on. You've lost grasp of the source. Honestly, just watch one or two episodes of anything on Netflix or Crunchy, and then come back here.This, for example:>>3068964This has no precedent, outside of other AI art.I will say one thing in favour of Anima. It gets back to that source. It looks authentic. And possibly that is why it meets resistance from people who are too far down that glossy, sloppy 2.5D SDXL echo chamber rabbit hole.
>>3069026yeah but WAI is garbage
>>3069026>é on anime>"you guys need to look like an anime screencap from 2026 and not do what you want"nyo
also>watching on netflix or CRlollmaogo back
>>3069026>This thread has become a hyperreality where what looks good is compared to other AI art, and that AI art is compared to AI art that came before it, and so on.Well, of course, because AI art is Ai art. You will never do actual art with AI only Ai art.If what you are aspiring is to do actual art like the one on the boorus you should...well, do actual art like the one of the boorus, there is no way you can do actual art with AI no matter how much good the models become.If what you want is to fool someone into making them think your ai generated image was drawn manually...well I guess you can achieve that already.
>>3069026Anima very frequently looks glossy and sloppy. Many Illu models do not. You're very obviously just parroting things you've heard.
>>3069026it seems like people who love those glossy models usually don't watch anime outside of extremely surface-level stuff, have zero idea about anime artists and only got to know danbooru because of ai. so yeah, you're right. but they aren't ashamed of it. I've seen those people say crap like "uhhhh its all aislop why do you even bother?!".
>>3069025Catbox borked, ill try again like 8 hours, sorry.>>3069033These colours are too hyperreal, this post is unethical. Please consider your words and deeds.
>>3069027I still like WAI anime coloring the most, so I make the gens with other models that understand prompt better and compose the image better, then color the result with wai for the nice generic anime coloring I'm addicted to
>>3069031Yes, because netflix and CR are two very accessible ways for people to watch actual animé. But I mean, if that's too mainstream for you, watch a LaserDisc or download a torrent or fly to fucking Japan. You're missing the point, which is, get back to the source.
>>3069038and my point, retard, is that ai imagegen has an infinity of combinations and that sticking to CURRENT_THING is for fucking losers
>>3069026>This, for example:>>3068964thats a troll post
>>3069034It is capable of it, given the right prompt. Heavy on quality tags, or a specific artist that does it. As opposed to checkpoint merges that force it into every single image you generate with them. But that's always how it goes between base models and merges.
>>3069038Wait, people actually watch netflix/CR nowdays? I thought everyone just downloaded the torrent from horriblesubs, or nya if its a series that is not in horriblesubs, like always (well, "always" as in after fansubbing died quite a few years ago I mean)
>>3069042unless they rename to horibledubs I'll just be using nya, thank youCR won't even let me pay them from my central european country
>>3069032Nah. Weasel argument. "AI art is meant to look like AI art so why aim higher?" Ok, so why does Adetailer exist, then? Why do we reject hands with 6 fingers? Stfu. LoRAs are trained on real artists in order to mimic real art. /Edg/ had lost its way, that's all there is to it
>>3069042>horriblesubsyour unc is showing
>>3069034You missed my point entirely. The main focus of my comment. The majority of it. I name dropped Anima in the last sentence and you just focused in on that
>>3069039Oh, that's the point you were making, is it? When you said "lmao go back"? I guess I'm a retard for not reading being telepathic
>>3069044Meanwhile the mentally healthy adults who work and don't have as much free time on their hands are somewhat in the middle: yes, with any hobby you should try and challenge yourself to improve, but there are are also unemployed, autistic manchildren who take their porn so seriously they make complete fools of themselves with their whiny, effeminate victimhood.
>>3069040what constitutes a troll post, in your opinion?
>>3069049stuff i dont like
>>3069049anything that has a chance of getting in the highlights over what I post
>>3069048I read this 3 times to try make sense of it, because it seems to be written by a reasonable person. But I don't see how it is relevant at all.I was saying that the posts on this thread don't resemble anything I've seen elsewhere on /e/ or on Danbooru or in animé. I don't pretend to be a victim of anything?
I love the part when the mr. "well-adjusted healthy individual" enters the argument keeeek
>>3069051>>3069052explains why anon would single out the only post that's unique and not just 1girl, standing
>>3069019Thank you
>>3069054I love it when people get butthurt about them
>>3069054>old /hdg/ filter kicks inbeen a while since I've seen that extended kek, I don't miss it
>>3069054after the second reply i knew it was the same retard with finally a new tactic (first one in 2026)
>>3069054Do you think it's healthy or well-adjusted to spend far too much time throwing tantrums on 4chan that free porn isn't catered to your specific taste?
>>3069032>there is no way you can do actual art with AI no matter how much good the models becomeWhy not? Visually it's not difficult if you go for it intentionally. Compositions also tend to follow the stuff you would usually find on the boorus, that was the training data after all.
>>3069059>a new tacticThe "AI art is supposed to look like AIslop" is IAfags' defining autistic trait.
>>3069061because adults don't have time for this shit.
>>3069062yes, yes, very transparent attempt to shift it, we get it
>this retard is STILL blaming <posts he does not like> as only being from a single personthis fag is actually significantly more annoying than whatever shitposting goes on.
>>3069055unique=/=good
>>3069065You seem frustrated that you're not fooling anyone.
>>3069061Achievement unlocked!!'Feeding the Hungry Troll'Reply to a mentally deficient retard's post as if it was a real post that warrants a response.Next achievement: 'Troll Feeding Frenzy!'Reply to 5 mentally deficient retards' posts as if it was a real post that warrants a response.
>>3069064>>3069065Least obvious samefagging.
>>3069068If I were to start assuming anons are not genuine, I would include your post as well. Most likely everything without an image posted in the past hour.
Which anime model is most used on 4chan threads right now Anima, SDXL or NAI? Vote!https://strawpoll.com/B2ZB9rDajgJ
It's the same individual/trooncord that farms the other generals. They usually get bored and move on from here because they can't derail with bbc. They've been doing this for literally years at this point. They have a few really obvious tactics, the "Im just doing this to improve thread quality" one is the most retarded.
I have come to post a picture of my wifehope everyone likes it
>>3069067I can tell you, completely sincerely and in good faith that there are almost definitely a minimum of 5 people in all these discussions you seem to blame on a "single person."Take your meds. Go outside. Touch grass. Do whatever the fuck you need to do to get the fuck off the internet.>>3069071define "4chan threads"either way the ones that matter it's probably anima, but that's because preview 3 just hit and people have been testing shit over the past 2 days.Doesn't mean it's the "best model," it's just recency bias. Though it's almost definitely a better model than whatever fried shitmixes generally populate this particular thread.
>>3069072The local freak derails with feet, lolis and buttholes, plus the words he cannot stop himself from using over and over again.Fortunately, all of his posts and troll pics can be hidden with single click.
>>3069072Here we have an example of a full blown obsessive schizophreniac. They've been here for years (obsessive) and they attribute, to one single "Anonymous " individual, all the behaviour that they don't like during that period (schizo paranoid mental disorder)
>inb4 thread regulars are false flagged>inb4 highlight slander>inb4 slop spamThey've already started replying to themselves when anons won't take the bait, so no inb4 there>inb4 spam reports>inb4 duplicate thread spam
>>3069073it's pretty basicbut alright
>>3069071should leave it running for 24 hours to get all the timezones, but by then it will get compromised with VPNs and shit
>>3069073Prompt/Catbox?
>>3069074oh, buddy, no .. don't say anima is better than anything. you're about to get called a retard so hard that your head will spin
>>3069076t bh I don't get the argument of either side. Whether it's one person shitposting or a dozen, for everyone else the end result is the same.
>>3069081the majority of posts in these threads are so barebones basic the shortfalls of anima won't really come into play.And in terms of actual diverse style expression it's already strictly superior to any SDXL model without using loras. The only hurdle is having to actually know artists to use and learning prompt shifting for artist mixing.
>>3069071Illustrious, obviously, is that even a question?
>>3068873>>3068875what a throwback. aika had a great soundtrack, ngl. also a big fan of the outfits and the constant pantyshots. gonna have to see if this outfit is sufficiently tagged or if i need a lora>>3068855this series has been great, anon. thanks for sharing>>3068947love this>>3069000hot all around
>>3069074The post was essentially "Hey guys I know my--um his shitposting is bad but isn't the blowback against him even worse?"No one in good faith defends a post like that, you fucking imbecile.
>>3069071um, yeh, so I've actually been using a combination of anima (for initial gen and upscale) and noob (for inpainting a couple details) because I'm not a dichotomous retard and I've always believed in leveraging AI tools for all that they have to offer. This isn't Trump vs. Biden. but ok
>>3068539Didn't take off?I suggest spot_color, had some fun with that today. You can mention specific things to control it, like red_eyes. Or just let it pick.
>>3069083>The only hurdle is having to actually know artists to use and learning prompt shifting for artist mixing.So it's worthless for anyone who has a job and other hobbies? Got it.
>>3069089Why would a job mean you don't know artists? Knowing artists is a gradual thing over time, not something you sit down and spend time studying.
>>3069087Trump vs Biden also looks more complicated if you happen to be outside the US.Anyway, how are you using anima for upscaling if it breaks up into artifacts above 2 megapixel or so? Seems like noob would be preferable to having to use tiled upscaling.
The moment the mixes are out you will need to stop worriying about mixing artists, you just need to pick the one with the style bias you like the most.
>>3069092Ha. Implying I won't have a toolbox of both mixes and artist tags like I always do.
>>3069089Lol. This shit post is funny because nobody who claims to have a job and other hobbies would install Comfy in the first place
>>3069092You can stop worrying about it now, if you like an artist enough. Or if you make your own mix.
>>3069094You can use Forge NeoOr have experience with node graphs from your actual job
>>3069094What a weird lie. Comfy isn't that complicated. I set it up in one evening. Why would a job prevent that?
>>3069090I don't have time to look up frickin' artists! The boss said he wants this report on his desk by Monday morning or it's my ass! Ugh! Someone post some boobies
>>3069090It seems that the majority of people here don't give a shit about anime art (and anime in general besides what they watched on toonami when they were 12) and don't have favorite artists or even a general idea of a style they want to gen with.
>>3069098Oh I see, that "people with jobs" comment made you butthurt and now you're sulking and false flagging.
>>3069090Grown men don't give a shit about things like this unless that's their job and they make money with it.
>>3069091ugh, so exhausting to have to go up to bat against you naysayers who have to argue every little point .Because I like anima's unique output and because I wanna increase the resolution, simple as that. But when I get there, I see some faults that need correcting with inpaint
>>3069101Grown men have hobbies. What they don't do is throw temper tantrums about free porn not being catered to their specific taste. Do you understand now, or are you just irredeemably retarded?
>my hobby is pornlol
>>3069086my dude, you are by far and away the most obvious and easily identifiable shitposter in this entire thread.not only are you extremely easy to trigger you just constantly schizopost at anything that fucking moves in a way that doesn't perfectly align with your mental image. If you think your presence is "helping" this thread I have some real bad news for you.At this point you should at least do everyone a favor and put on a trip so you can be easily filtered.
It is funny when a newfriend comes around asking to be spoonfed artists to add to his shitmix. Like wtf do you mean little bro? Start with your favourites? You do have favourite or prefered artists right??? Kids these days have never owned a physical doujin and it shows.
>>3069096>>3069097Jesus Christ. I'm going to assume you're both autistic and unfamiliar with irony?Look at what I was replying to.
>>3069100AHH shit. Shit shit shit. These people don't get sarcasm. Abandon thread
>>3069102Guess this is a bad time for actual discussion. I am >>3069088 >>3068925. For context, I have moved on to anima almost exclusively now, and the upscaling issue is my biggest pain point so I was curious how you do it. I was the one to suggest tiled upscaling as a workaround in the first place, back in preview1. At least thanks for the VAE it is often not necessary.
>>3069109Sarcasm borne of butthurt, yes.
>>3069108Just sounded like you were bashing Comfy. The social context right now is pretty negatively charged, not a good time for jokes.
>>3069110>Guess this is a bad time for actual discussionYeah as usual just gotta wait out the meltie.
>>3069049Just asking questions.
>>3069117this
>>3069110I've been doing tiled upscaling with mixed results depending on the original gen. It takes some fidgeting with denoise and tile tags. Don't go higher than 1.5* upscale. My initial denoise was 0.3 because I was scared of weirdness, but that doesn't allow for extra detail. I do 0.4 and if it turns out badly, I inpaint with good old Wai
>>3069119But this doesn't work for LoRAs. Only works if artist tags are interpreted relatively similarly by anima and wai
>>3069085no lora needed, cheers to that
>>3069087I usually do that too when a new model that seems superior comes out. But after a while when some mix I like comes out I just sttle with that and forget entirely about using several models for different things.
>>3069118>thisOk thanks. It's helpful to know that you, "Anonymous", agree with what they said. Knowing you already, "Anonymous", this opinion some context to the overall picture that I have of you. At least one other anon agrees with anon. Your post is valuable and you should def post "this" again whenever you see a post that you agree with
>>3069119With tile you should be able to go as high as you want. But it does struggle with higher denoise, I usually stay below 0.25 and yeah that only cleans up the worst things like eyes and jewelry. And it takes a long time. Don't think anyone's gonna train a tile controlnet while it's still a preview.Using another model will try to change the style, but that in combination with remnants of the the original one can result in something new. Same these tend to be unstable.
i'm not reading any of that shit desu
>>3069123It was a joke, implying that "asking questions" "constitutes a troll post"
>>3069123Not this.
>>3069124>With tile you should be able to go as high as you wantNope
>>3069125Like a breath of fresh air, pink brings simple joy to this rancid thread. >I fear not the troll who has derailed 10,000 threads once, but I fear the man who has genned his one girl 10,000 times
>>3069131Don't worry, given the right time I'll bake a Pink anima lora for that guy
>>3069133Keep in mind he's not local, it would have to go on civit.
>>3069130No you shouldn't, or no you aren't able to? Here's a 4096x4096 with metadata.https://litter.catbox.moe/rtedt517gy01ywtd.pngHistorically it was used to generate some ridiculous pics, 8K res and more. Each tile is still just 2mpix (or however high you set your tile size) so it won't break up into artifacts the way anima does when yo go higher. But you have to keep denoise low (I used 0.25) because every tile gets the full prompt, so there might not be much benefit to it except for small details or a wide_shot with the character far away.
>>3069133Much appreciated.What >>3069134 said, though.
>>3069137> *SluuUuurp*
>just pick a spot and go already, it's almost like you're trying to get caught at this point
i got a bit obsessive with prep for first lora traininglesson learned: buy google credits and have gemini do a caption instead of slumming it with qwen 27b
>>3069142use an actual porn tagger anon they are free...
>>3069143im not talking about tags, im talking about caption. for tags sure, query booru tags and supplement with .95 confidence pixai
>>3069144there are so many things wrong with what you are typing
>>3069144I've found Joycaption to be good enough for a quick NL prompt and it costs nothing and you can use it through TagGUI.
>>3069146joycaption is very old and bad. nsfwvision was the best smol model i found for caption, i found a qwen 27b abliteration that was much better in spite of not much source training. gemini totally destroys them and costs peanuts
>>3069142why are you even training on natural language captions for anima? it's not neccessary
Okay so I think they might have removed the guardrails for Mio's generation. This is a lot easier than it used to be.
>>3069153Card declined, not enough balance.
>>3068546I interpreted this as adhesive bra or nu bra. Can be surprising finicky to get a proper backless adhesive bra from the side; generation really wants to just make it a strapless bra. >>3068545Ah, cute tsundere maid cafe waitress!
>>3068566gen it yourself asswad
>>3069169Just filter out the words "Requesting", "Request" and any alternate word used to ask for something.
>>3069173No the others are fine. According to archives, supposedly he was last here 3 weeks ago but it's pretty noticeable. I'm too lazy to filter though.
>>3069154sex toys with insertion do not belong here.
>>3069175Just highlight the word "requesting" and click on the small triangle next to his post number. Select "filter selected text" and dude, that's a lot of headaches that immediately will dissapear forever.
>>3069176Well, it's too late to delete it. My bad.
my OC Kardiaskiá, don't steal
>>3069185this is just shadowheart
>>3069188no, this is my OC. check the metadatahttps://litter.catbox.moe/dby1jb.png
>>3069185she oddly resembles my baldurs gate wife, shadowheart
man i love boobs
>>3069195yes
>>3069185please that with no pubic hair
>>3069144People usually refer to both as captions, whether it's tags or natural language.>>3069144You're not gonna re-train the model's paradigm of prompting with one lora, it's completely fine to just use booru tags in your dataset.My concern with using natural language is they tend to use flowery language and long sentences that the small 0.6B TE might not understand. When that happens the captions will do more harm than good. Tags provide a clean 1-to-1 mapping between the phrase and its meaning.
>>3069025https://litter.catbox.moe/r64rp1633xddbnzo.png
>>3068533Touko Kuchiki being a tease in class
>>3068950She looks really, really good tho. Thank you once again.
>>3069202Cheers
>>3069185>My favorite half-elf Trickery Domain Cleric, making camp for the night on her campaign
>>3069142you can also just load your images into civit lora trainer and run their captioner. it has good controls. and then download the dataset with .txt files as a zip, without running the next step of their trainer
>>3069135That's pretty cool. I'm sure there is some wizardry you can do with the auto tagger and tile nodes, to customise each tile so it doesn't have the full prompt. I mean, there must be. When you see the tiles and how everything is split up, you must be able to tweak params for the next run. I'm not savvy enough with Comfy, though
>>3069179Report your own post and a mod will delete it for you.
>>3069135The issue with 0.25 denoise is that you're blowing up an area with few details to crisper resolution....So, while it doesn't look blurry, it doesn't look amazing either. It kind of exposes the sloppiness/simplicity of the original gen
>>3069133If we're doing a Pink LoRA, do you think we can use PK Anon's posts as dataset?
wow. catching up on posts. since when is edg so chatty? that's a lot of text it's like in gremlins 2 when that one gremlin takes brain serum, except it's not a gremlin it's gooners
>>3069223the weather put me in a good mood
>>3069137Don't worry, I train lora with civitai anyway. But that also means until they add anima as custom model for trainning I can't bake it.
>>3069223I think whenever gremlins hang out together in the films is the most close allegory to 4chan you can find
>>3069221it was a demonstration of going to an unreasonably high res. But I played around with it a bit more, if you're limited to 2 megapixel tiles (~1400 square) and your target is a 2K square then it's not much of an issue, very little of the image is actually cropped out in each tile. You should be able to go a lot higher denoise like that. I prefer the clean simplicity of a base gen and don't normally go above 0.3 even with regular hiresfix, so I can't judge how well that works. But here's a 0.5 https://litter.catbox.moe/v9c5rct7dp4qxy1p.pngGonna have to test it with different styles and compositions too.>>3069218Regional prompter. I've tested and it does work with ultimate SD upscale, it knows which region each tile exists in. You could region up the base image 4 ways and manually prune things that aren't visible in that region's prompt. Not sure how reliable an autotagger would be, but if you have a node to hook into one this could be automated easily.if you were to go higher than 2x, or with smaller tiles, you would have to disassemble the tiled upscaling node, get access to the tile layout at runtime.
>>3069229I borrowed a SEGS tiled upscale workflow, but I wouldn't know where to start to add a regional prompter, or to manually prune things, or to access tile layout at runtime.I know enough to make sense of what you're saying, and I knew it could be done...but can't implement that myself
>>3069133>>3069137>>3069227I can do a Pink LoRA for Anima right now and put it on Civit. I need to put a dataset together. I could only find a torrent for ep1 of the OVA
>>3069235do you need lot of ram to bake lora locally? How much time it takes to bake one?Also, what do you use to bake them the khoya thing? I remember trying to make lora locally, but when I was going to do it I found they asked for python, but the python it asked me for was a different version from the python I needed for the ui, and couldn't bother with it because I didn't want to swap versions every time I wanted to train a lora.But we are talking 1.5 times, so I guess things have changed a lot since then
>>3069231I have no interest in using this, but I can put you on the right track. https://litter.catbox.moe/f68zvebx6jh7s9c0.pngThis will cut the image into 4, and produce matching region masks.
>>3069191>>3069192I like it much more without cum ! Bery nice. Sensing new lazylora too...
>>3069237Okay, that's kind of you, thanks. I'll try it out
>>3069236Locally, 12GB+ VRAM. Preferably higher. Apparently, you can make 8GB work with the right optimisation. For me, it takes just over 1 hour per 1000 steps. Kohya_ss, yeah
>>3069241But now that I've told you that, another 3 anons are gonna contradict me. So Google is your friend. Find what works for your setup
>>3069242And they wouldn't be wrong, that's the best part. Everyone has their own opinion on how training is supposed to work, but bottom line unless you do something really stupid it will be fine.I would grab this >>>/h/8859209 and a .toml file with settings from the previous thread.
What are the chances of civitai adding Anima to the list of trainnings?
>>3069230nice style, box? i see gogalking>>3069236>I remember trying to make lora locally, but when I was going to do it I found they asked for python, but the python it asked me for was a different version from the python I needed for the ui, and couldn't bother with it because I didn't want to swap versions every time I wanted to train a lorawtf are you doing putting webui and your lora training in the same venv. look up how python virtual environments work and make a separate one for your trainer>>3069239i'll add another batch at some point>>3069245is there ebora in this mix?
>>3069243lol...except anon was talking about the minimum PC requirements for training locally...it had nothing to do with what you might put in a .toml file. You Reddit fags are so predictable
>>3069249I'm just trying to help man, why you gotta be like that
Pink's fur is actually a tawny yellow with black stripes. Not white and black like her costume. The existing LoRAs don't know that. Might be hard to teach
>>3069248>wtf are you doing putting webui and your lora training in the same venv. look up how python virtual environments work and make a separate one for your trainerNot having to learn all that stuff is the reason I gave up back then. I even struggled just to install A111 ui>is there ebora in this mix?yes. Actually is not even a mix, is just ebora
>>3069252Lora don't need to know anything, is enough just with you telling it.The same way a lora makes a character with blue eyes, if her true hair color is green all you have to do is type "green eyes" to correct that.
>>3069254Assuming you can describe the correct shade or pattern with just a prompt. Even then it's more convenient having an accurate lora in the first place.
