Reverso editionGuides and Info:>Classic Memehttps://imgur.com/a/6CNO8>Poorfag guide:https://www.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK>Watch essentials 102:https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV>Purchasing used watches:https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2>Purchasing straps:https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE"Suggest a watch for me.">Your budget>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd-time zone>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet>Wrist size or desired watch sizePrevious thread >>18177838
>>18179613Fuck you.
>>18179613go back to your boomer watch forum you dork
>>18179613old reversocel is dead. all spit on the new reversocel.
This is going to be a challenge but I know for a fact that the movement, crown, buckle and case are genuine. the dial is a travesty but I knew that and the arrows are repro. I'll need to find a repro dial but other than that I am pretty content with this and what I paid. I think I'm going to get the service finished and then I'll start looking for a dial to buy in a month or two. I know genuine dials are fucking expensive like at least a grand. for that I'd rather buy another watch (have my mind set on a seiko turtleback 6309) and leave this one WIP but working for now.
Is no one going to give me 15k for a watch? What happened to charity?
cop or nah?
>>18179666was recently traveling for an interview and was in a city big enough to have a swatch store and saw these watches in personthey look like toys, they feel like toys, they are toys
>>18179632What watch are you wearing today, gentle Anon?>>18179655Nice digits; you're always welcome to join me if I ever return. What watch are you wearing today, Fren?>>18179664It is truly an honour to be anointed as a replacement, though in truth I could only succeed the original. >>18179741I find it appealing.>>18179746They are, in a lot of ways. They're watches 'for the moment', not for a lifetime. I like the 3 new ones they released...the colour schemes are very attractive to the eye.
>>18179762Fuck you, faggot.
>>18179762Which moonswatch would you get if you were forced to choose from?
>>18179779It's a shame you feel that way; we could be Frens.>>18179824I've spent time with the Mars, Sun, and Neptune; I like them all. They're bright, the kind of watch you'd wear to carnival or out to the circus. I like the 3 new ones, but I've never seen them in person yet. What about you? Do you see any you'd like?
>>18179840Fuck you, cunt.
>>18179840They're just not for me. There's a swatch store close to the center in my city, I passed by often and went in twice to try them on.I get it, it's a fashion piece, but it feels very much like it's a here-and-now kind of thing.If I was forced to get one I'd get Pluto.
>>18179853In many American cities you are allowed to steal
>>18179857or get shot
Kofe time.
>>18179863>it's not blackNo wonder you're fat.
>>18179843Join the conversation about watches, Fren. What watch are you wearing at the moment?>>18179853I understand that completely; at the end of the day, I can be like any other 'journalist' and say that 'I'd buy this/that...', but none of it counts unless money is spent. While I like the MoonSwatches (and the Fifty Fathoms watch collabs too), I've had several opportunities to buy from the Swatch boutique and never did. I guess that right now I have no need for toys; maybe one day once more. I agree with you completely about it being a 'here and now' thing...I think that's exactly what it is. I'm not sure if I'll regret not getting one....but I haven't had that feeling at all, and my instincts are usually good on that, so it's likely I'll never buy one.>>18179863Morning CitizenChad...I'm about to get some shuteye. Hope you have an amazing day!
>>18179863how many times are you gonna rape the bunny today
>>18179872Cheers Omega Chad. Thanks for an epic OP, take care.
>>18179613Nigga Google this watch this watch has a watch in the front and the back what
>>18179613New addition
>>18179893Yea I just got this today
Rolex
Name your 5 favorite watches right fucking now. Also post some goddamn pics. Bonus point if they're never discussed here. Cheap or expensive I don't care. I just want to see some cool watches instead of the usual "whoretadello reversocel bitterfag" drama.
>>18179925fuck off whoretadello lmfao
>>18179925Casio F-91W.Black, White, Blue, Green, Silver, Gold.
>>18179762>>18179840>>18179872You and your symmetrical shitters can go fuck yourselves, faggot.
>>18179925>>18179934Post your smoothly shaved butthole
>>18179937Post your $100 beaten up Seiko, poorfag
bittercel please lmfaooo wtf are you doooing sar
I shaved my dick and balls yesterday and fucked my wife up the ass, it felt good.Anyways, what's the best Swiss dress watch under 1k?
This is unbelievably cool
Why does this thread hate bittercel so much? He is unironically the best poster we have ever had. Here's my reasons:bittercel is always brutally honest. He is like water, he will find a crack in your watch and pour in from there. He is the criticism we need. You never get that in watchuseek or reddit, you only get an echo chamber of “nice watch, wear it in good health, champ” bullshit. Not with bittercel, he does not care for your feelings which is why he will tell you the truth. Yes, your watch is too big for you, yes it’s a shitter, yes the lugs look like shit, yes the movement is crap. You, as a critically thinking individual, should embrace this.We are all protected by anonymity here which is the point of this site. Avatarfags are pathetic going against this. Take reversocel for example; he couldn’t handle a bit of heat from bittercel and immediately fucked off to r/watches as soon as someone wasn’t sucking his cock over his shitters and pens lmfao.Yes, bittercel may seem bitter at first, but he is the counter force to all this circle-jerking in here. He is harsh but fair. You hold the fact he never posts a watch against him, but that is merely him not taking a side. He is not a brain-dead fanboy to brands (other than Rolex, but Rolex is Rolex). This way he maintains his unbiased position.And the best part of bittercel? He is always there for you, right here, in this thread.
>>18179957Looks like AI.
>>18179897Ebel is all fine and cool but you have to pray every day that nothing ever goes wrong with the bracelet or brace for some serious butt-diddling.
>>18179966Your intelligence looks like AI.
>>18179948Why did you need to shave your genitals to fuck your wife in the ass?
>>18179925>Name your 5 favorite watches right fucking now.Rolex Explorer 124270Omega Seamaster Chronograph 145.016Patek Philippe perpetual calendar 3940Cartier CristallorVacheron Constantin "Memovox" 7778
>>18179972How is this related to watches?
>>18179925Tudor Black Bay 36Omega Speedmaster ReducedRolex GMT Master IIVacheron Contantin 222Patek Philippe Nautilus
>>18179925HulkGMT Master IIDaytonaDJSkydweller
Post your controversial opinions.I'll start:Rolex is actually really based and almost all of the criticism they receive is just coping poorfags or bottom listers. I bet they'd jump on the first chance to get one, if they got the call.
>>18179987From discussion stems discussion.
>>18179992>SkydwellerYuck. The worst Rolex.
>>18179994Here's my controversial opinion:All arguments involving money, "poorfag", etc. etc., are just coping mechanisms for utter lack of aesthetic sense in a person.If you like something, you either get it if you can or you find the way to get it you can't. Period.Are Rolexes actually good, actually pleasing? Some are, some aren't. Period.
>>18179994People always shit on watch youtubers for being biased, but there are some genuinely good and informative ones. Brit Pierce is the best one imo.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcpMUuuw_Rg
>>18179999Nobody cares what a poor thinks, poorfag.Don't reply to my posts again.
>>18179994>Post your controversial opinions.Alarm (mechanical) is the coolest and most useful complication and more brands should do them.Chronographs are kind of cringe.Hand winding > automatic.Date windows should always be framed (ESPECIALLY if the dial has applied indices).Lug to lug, dial opening and case thickness are more important than diameter.Jaeger-Lecoultre is the most mismanaged brand right now. They should make top quality simple every day watches in stainless steel in the 5 to 15k budget, and not these stupid gold tourbillon shitter. If your budget is lower than 5 or even 10k, then you should ALWAYS buy vintage.Post-2000 Rolex is ugly and soulless (the worst decade being the 2000s), EXCEPT FOR the current Explorer and Oyster Perpetual.
>>18179994More like a controversial fact, but Quartz > Swiss lever.
>>18180006A third world nigger calling someone else a poorfag, I'm laughing my fucking ass off
>>18180013I agree with some of these points
>>18180013>Jaeger-Lecoultre is the most mismanaged brand right nowI dunno, Blancpain is up there as well.>we have heard you, here is your 42mm Fifty Fathoms>limited and in either gold or titanium>oh you want the Leman back?>sorry but we embarrassed ourselves discontinuing it and turning it into the L Evolution and therefore proceeded to memory-hole it
>>18180039A poorfag thirdie bitter nigger can't even take the simplest instructions lmfao
>>18180055>Request: post your controversial opinions>I post my controversial opinion>Nigger complainsAmazing how a subhuman doesn't even understand how these things work and then talks about instructions
>post your opinions!>hurr durr don't reply to my posts againThe absolute state
>>18179925Chronomaster revival Zenith el primero A384Casio AE1200Seiko 62MASMy Tudor Black bay 58
Poorfag retard bitter avatarfagging incel retard homo faggot.
>>18180071Those are 4 watches. You can't count?
>>18180050Yeah Blancpain is a mess but I don't think many people care about Blancpain. JLC is a legitimate brand with a rich history and a strong identity. Hiring Lenny Kravitz as a brand ambassador for the Reverso is really weird and stupid.
>>18180071>Tudor owners have to service their own watchesActually makes sense.
>>18180076Kill yourself kike
>>18180078Take your filth somewhere else, bug
>>18180077Woah bitter much there TuPOOR?
>>18180082There's a fat nigger cock waiting for you on Tinder for tonight, my dude
>>18180075Blancpain could be in a similar situation, they've just been awfully managed by Swatch for ages.Biver worked his magic to revive it, Swatch bought it and the realized it would always encroach on either Omega if they made it more utilitarian, or Breguet if they played up the craftsmanship.But between a semi-dormant brand that only surfaces to pick up fights over who build the first "modern diver" (compressors and skin divers don't count, shut up), and one that does meme-tier supercomplication to prop up their image and sell quartz Reversos, it's like having to pick between cancer and AIDS.
>>18180085>Poorfag merilard's thoughts go to nigger cocks immediatelyPottery lmfao!
Would you go Tissot or Certina for a PM80?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3ELvzIhUxI
>>18180073Yeah, I know, but I think I don't have a fourth favourite watch, some watches I really like but would not call favourite, but if you want a fifth watch to fill the list, then my old shitter because it has an amazing dial.
>>18180090none
>>18180092y?
Post the first word that comes to your mind from the following brands / features / statements:>Rolex>Seiko>Exhibition caseback>Strapmonster>Hand wind>Bezel action>Tissot>Casio>Value retention>Master chronometer>Dress watch>Jubilee>Tudor>In-house movement
>>18180097Fuck off faggot
>>18180099Here's your (you), bittercel, now take your leave and let the grownups be at peace.
>>18180097>RolexBasic>SeikoBoring>Exhibition casebackWhy?>StrapmonsterEl Ratto>Hand windOld>Bezel actionClicky>TissotDull>CasioOk>Value retentionIllusion>Master chronometerlol>Dress watchOld>JubileeNo thanks>TudorBudget version>In-house movementDoubtful
What a shitty thread, nothing but shit flinging.
>>18180107Yeap.Best thing is these are the faggots that cry about reddit being bad.
>>18180097>RolexSubmariner>SeikoWeebs>Exhibition casebackUseless>StrapmonsterWhat?>Hand windSad>Bezel actionCric-cric-cric>TissotBoring as fuck>CasioThe best of>Value retentionWho cares lmao>Master chronometerMasterfag>Dress watchTank>JubileeVatican>TudorThe legend of square indexes>In-house movementCool I guess
>>18180107>>18180108The thread is shit because the posters are either annoying attention-whoring avatarfags, or plain rude individuals.None of those is the way to have decent conversations about watches.
>>18180116>annoying attention-whoring avatarfagsPosting photos of your watches in a watch thread was never annoying.
>>18180117Posting the same three pictures a thousand times is.
>>18180117This thread has always been about discussion of horology, not "hey look, I have x" posts. Avatarfag retards will never understand this.
>>18180122>discussion of horology>>18179779>>18179843>>18179865>>18179874>>18179877>>18179929>>18179937>>18179944>>18179948>>18180006>>18180039>>18180055>>18180062>>18180072>>18180077>>18180085>>18180099>>18179972
>>18180124If some anon tells everyone that he shaved his genitals to fuck his wife then I am entitled to ask him questions about that.
>>18180124Touché
>>18179948Vintage pre Swatch Omega Seamaster.
>>18180124kys faggot
>>18179925I luv me my certina, simple asIt's gotten an upgrade to metal bracelet since then
>>18180136This gives off JLC vibes, looks quite good.
>>18180140Not to be confused with Nautalis.
>>18180141Your Reverso is ugly, get over it.
Is 34 mm too small for a round dress watch if my wrist is 16,5 mm (6,5 inches)?
Fortis
>>18180153Huh? You have some serious problems. I would suggest a break from 4chan but i know you are unable to do it.
>>18180164Fortis
tell me why i shouldn't buy this orient star
>>18180172Get one without the Roman numerals
>>181801721 - it's not a Rolex2 - it's not a Grand Seiko
>>18180172Because it's called orient star.
bittercel the kinda guy who goes to a fancy restaurant, gets offended when someone orders Mac n cheese, proceeds then to shit on the table and starts eating it to protest.
>>18180185Sorry, if someone orders anything* would be more accurate
>>18180185>bittercel the kinda guy who goes to a fancy restaurant,Nah, he just needs to hear about someone else ordering mac 'n' cheese at a fancy restaurant. Better still, he will make up a hypothetical about someone doing so.He doesn't own any watches so he definitely doesn't eat at fancy restaurants.
>>18180185>>18180186>>18180188Obsession with imaginary avatarfags is a diagnosed 21st century disease. Reminder to seek medical help.
>>18180189Relax bittercel. We're just having a little fun.
>>18180189Yeah what's wrong bittercel, can't take the bantz lmfao kys faggots nigger rapist kike
>>18179641so you bought it?
A G shock is all you need
>>18180232Too big for you.
VERSACE VERSACE VERSACE
The Datora on a stainless steel breitling navitimer bracelet is looking great if you even care to know its possible.
Everyday that passes, 'watch enthusiasts' collectively push the boundaries of cringe just a little bit further than the day before.
redpill me on rolexwhy do people say the old ones are better?if I get one, do I get, what is, 5 digit reference vs 6 digit? A lot of them are 36mm, is that ok?which ones do you guys like? Thinking maybe an explorer? How much is too much? On Chrono explorers are going for like 7K canadian. Seems like a lot for what you get. Am I wrong?
>>18180272>redpill me on rolexI am sorry fellow connoisseur connaisseur de l'horlogerie..This is a journey you must take by yourself, for your own sake. You may meet a horological mentor, like yours truly did, but you need to learn and understand the maison yourself.Rolex is not part of the "Sainte Trinité" of maisons, but they command respect, especially on more ordinary societies.I wish you partake this journey with an open heart, that way you too shall arrive at your own haven.
I'm going to Tokyo this week, anywhere I should go to look for some bargains/interesting watches? Part of me wants to see if I can find an older Alpinist or something similar.
>>18180272>why do people say the old ones are better?They're not better watches, per se, but they have more soul than the new ones.A number of features that used to be considered flaws, once corrected, turned out to be part of a Rolex's charm, while the solution didn't really improve things as much as hoped.Aluminum bezels, hollow bracelets, stuff like that.Certain design elements, like the bevels on the lugs, have been reduced or eliminated.Then there was the decision to change the case design for some of their sports models, like the GMT-Master II and Submariner to what is called the Maxi Case, which spoiled the classic look and line of the watch.
>>18180282Arupinisuto.Go to pic related, it's in Ueno. Tell him Zach send you.
Been wearing this. Didn't expect the "hum" to sound like tinnitus but it's definitely a cool watch. Trying to figure out a strap, I think I don't want shiny leather.
>>18180299Would look good with a saddle brown or honey brown waxed leather.
>>18180272Listen to what this anon >>18180284 says. That is a perfect post.
gonna ignore all that shit, add 10K to my mortgage and get a purple dial OP
>>18180339>purple dial OPShit tier
>>18180284Soul vs souless
>>18180365that's a seiko not a grape dial oyster perpetual >>18180377i don't get it, the one with the white on black looks better than the yellow on black.
Rolex is easy.>1950s - 2000s : literally everything is good>2000s - 2020 : complete dogshit>2020 - now : only 36mm are good
>>18180377The 19mm bracelet makes the new one look so much smaller than the old one.
>>18180388Idk, I recently got a 2 tone gmt. I think it's pretty good
So wait, a Tissot prx or a seiko Alpinist are free of charge in the US? Does my skin have to be of a "certain tone" for that to apply though?
Look at this shit. It's hilarious.
>>18180414Debunked by official Snopes debunkers
>>18180414>>18180419What? Explain.
>>18180421Since the Summer of Love it has been legal in San Francisco to shoplift as long as it is under $950.Someone put up that sign as a joke.
>>18179967It didn’t cost enough for me to care desu. And I already have more links than I need
>>18180426>>18180414Couldn't they just make crime illegal?Or would it affect certain socio-economic groups too much?if so, how can we bring DEI to crime to make it more approachable for all groups of people and other kin?
Every day I'm Schaffhausen.
>>18180426>Since the Summer of Love it has been legal in San Francisco to shoplift as long as it is under $950.It's illegal, it's just a misdemeanor below 950 bucks. Shoplifting below a certain dollar value is a misdemeanor in most places. It's not unique to SF.
Am I crazy or does this look funky fresh? I'm close to buying but I'm afraid it might be TOO loud
>>18180436If they don't chase, don't arrest, don't investigate: it's legal
Do you guys like nylon nato straps or FKM rubber straps in the summer? Struggling with hot weather making my metal bracelet uncomfortable when my wrist swells up and I can't be fucked fiddling with the quick adjust so I was considering something a bit more forgiving of a material so I'm thinking of picking up a cheap strap off ali
>>18180416the new one looks better...what am I not getting?
>>18180439think it would look better on a orange rubber strap
Thoughts on picrel for a low profile beater? And does anyone know anything similar without the military time on the dial?
People spend more than a 100 dollars on Japanese watches
>>18180447It comes with exactly that as well as a green one
>>18180439>farterI'm not sure about the fresh part but bet it smells funky and makes loud noises
>>18180446okay contrarian
>>18180451So everyone here really is autistic then
Where does the line get drawn between a small company and a microbrand?Is it newness? If so, how long should a microbrand be around?Is it making your own components?Is it selling inexpensive watches?Laurent Ferrier, for example, I think they have all their stuff outsourced and they just do the initial design, some modification and the end-stage finishing (Etablisseur).
>>18180461Rexhep Rexhepi is a microbrand and yet they sell their shitters for 6 digits prices.
>>18180377New one looks better.>>18180416Old one looks better.
>>18180439I hope you're a fan of the Miami Dolphins. And your coworkers at the coworking space inside the coffee shop deducing you have Adult ADHD.
>>18180461Microbrand:>founded by some dude with a marketing degree>stupid concept like vintage Patek homage, le funny Reddit dial, muh brutalist architecture>off the shelf movements>BE QUICK: limited to 250 pieces only!>sponsored articles on Hodinkee, Fratello, etc
>>18180452ok I think i get it, the new one has a 'fatter' case? Sorry I was just looking at the dial, the dial on the new one is better, but yes I see the slimmer case on the old one. >>18180448lol just get the chinese one from sugess for like $200 >>>>18180434nice watch you know what fuck rolex i wanna get that
>>18180461>Where does the line get drawn between a small company and a microbrand?there is none
>>18180481>stupid concept like vintage Patek homageChinese movement aside, the MR01 is a pretty nice watch.
>>18180262Is the fit really seamless? No juggle?
>>18180483>the dial on the new one is betterNope, the dial is also better in the old one, at least in my opinion. The sharp contrast of the yellow lume on the indexes and hands is just beautiful. The triangle at 12 is also longer and more pointed, same goes for the crown logo. The new one is just dull, boring.
What was his fucking problem?
>>18180511That yellow lume was white when new. It took 25+ years to turn that color.
I don't want to like it but I can't help it, it's just nice
>>18180525my my
>>18180515He liked fatties too much.
>>18180521I can wait.
>>18180525>>18180526Apparently in person it's not so nice.
>>18180521Lolno. Super-Luminova comes in a bunch of colours. Also, if the old Sub could age and gain a better aspect over time, the new one never will, because the new Super-Luminova is not prone to discoloration or ageing over time.
>>18180533Isn't modern lume too new to actually know that with any certainty?
>>18180532I hear the opposite, it looks better in person
>>18180535From who? Surely you're not listening to paid watch reviewers?
>>18180534>Isn't modern lume too new to actually know that with any certainty?No. We've been using "modern" lumes for decades. Look for watches that were made at the cutover to see the difference.Mid 90s Bond Seamaster with tritium? creamy yellowMid 90s Bond Seamaster with Super-LumiNova? still the same, despite being only 1 year newer than the tritium watch
>>18180525>>18180526Boring overhyped shitter
>>18180551Funny, I feel the same about your mum
>>18180552Thanks for the chuckle, anon
>>18180549Seiko used Promethium147 into the 90's.
I'm going to buy one brosSo excited
>>18180557Nice!Post some pics here when it arrives.
>>18180557If only it didn't have those two screws...
>>18180555>Seiko used Promethium147 into the 90's.That's about the time the changeover happened.If I remember correctly, by 2000, the European Union mandated that no more watches get radioactive lume. Some companies like Panerai got around that by selling their watches as dive equipment, not just wristwatches.Rolex and Omega each made the switch around 1997, give or take.
>>18180561And that unnecessary "Mechanical Hand Winding" text
>>18180546forums and reddit fags
>>18180097>Rolexvalue retention>SeikoShitter>Exhibition casebackETA>StrapmonsterReddit>Hand windSatisfying>Bezel action120 click>TissotMall>CasioBased>Value retentionRolex>Master chronometerCitizen>Dress watch15mm>JubileeTwo tone>TudorCope>In-house movementOverrated
>>18180485Watches is the only industry I've ever heard anyone use the word "microbrand." the only other similar thing I know of is "microbrewery" in the beer industry.
>>18180599>the only other similar thing I know of is "microbrewery" in the beer industry.Microbrewery is a legal definition in some states, though, related to how much beer they can produce and under what conditions they can sell.Microbrand is more nebulously defined. It's more a collection of characteristics>Off the shelf movements, typically unmodified, often undecorated>All other components third party as well>Design is usually a derivation of popular, but rare/expensive, vintage watches>Production tends to be extremely small>Cost tends to be no more than 2000USD per
>>18180557never liked their logo.
>>18180557why
>>18180192yeah, a year ago
Where can I buy nicest fake rolex
>>18180705At your nearest Tudor boutique lmao gottem
>>18180259My best friend received a gold Versace watch as a wedding gift from the bride's parents. I'm going to resist the urge to be a redditor and speak to him about how it's a bad watch, but instead I might get him a less gaudy """daily""" watch that he'd wear more often anyway
>>18180705San Martin makes pretty good not-Rolexes. You can get them with Sellita movements and sapphire crystal for <$500.
>>18180646get a spare movement from epson while it's still available
>>18180646https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c3tbVcDNS0
>>18180705some messenger from one of the reptime sellers
>>18180598>Rolex>value retentionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMEMpCrPfiY
>>18179613What watch is thisI get weak in the knees for 2 timezones side by side
Is the deep blue Bel Canto no longer available? I only just learned about it from a fooking youtube and the only 4 colours available are ugly
>>18180799Only the first run was blue and it's been out of stock for ages.No idea if they will ever re-run that colour in the future or retire it so the first run remains unique.
Black or blue face The ultimate debate
>>18180801>white dial isn't even under discussionBrutal
What do you think about the best watch ever made?
>>18180810that their owners rape bunnies
Why is this anon defaming me?
>>18180822
>>18180557Nice! Post pics when you get it. I ordered pic related in January and I should be getting it next week!
>>18180833>January and I should be getting it next week!Bro got put to the front of the waitlist!
>>18180579There is a lot of CW pushing on Reddit, even some people say that the logo is good, lmao, and from time to time there is a fishy CW thread and many comments about CW in every thread.
Tudor Black Bay is the best watch released so far in the 21st century
>>18180798Finally, the day can start now.
>>18180843As a random guy, I hadn’t heard of them until someone mentioned it earlier I the thread today. I’m on the market for something entirely different, but have spent like an hour total browsing the website. Two or three models really caught my attention. Does anyone own a Christopher Ward and can speak to the quality?
>>18180810>>18180822>>18180830Ngl, Citizen is probably the best brand on the market. A modern day Timex. They just work; and work, and work, and work. Most of them even look fucking fantastic while they do it.
>>18180873Kek. Thank you, kind anon.
>>18180882kys bunnyrapist
>>18180886Seek help
>>18180889stop raping innocent animals
>>18180894Stop defaming innocent posters
>innocentHAHA
Does the GMT Root Beer work with my skin tone?
>>18180882>>18180903What’s the significance of the symbol just above 6?
>>18180446The people that like the old stuff is a small group. Would you rather have a new amg benz or an e500?
What is the purpose of this thread?
I miss OmegaDrunk bros..
NATO or Rubber strap for summer?>>18180919talking about watches
>>18180915It's a modern version of the Chronomaster eagle Citizen used in their watches. Looks more like a warhammer faction symbol or a chicken desu.
>>18180919Shitting on Omega, Rolex and Grand Seiko.
>>18180935Nobody shits on Rolex, except for the bitters of course, but that doesn't really count.
C H I N Ahttps://finance.yahoo.com/news/swatch-group-profit-falls-weak-053803420.html
>>18180913Looks too big desu
>>18180555>Seiko used Promethium147 into the 90's.Yeah, until they got that Japanese inventor's stronium alluminate formula in the 90's and repackaged it as luminova so that the swiss could bypass the "swiss made" law at the time and still use this new non-radioactive glowjap stuff.
>>18180871>Does anyone own a Christopher Ward and can speak to the quality?I bought a Twelve in steel, second-hand, to see what the fuss was about. The watch looks really good in photos, but the quality was simply not at what you'd expect for a watch over 1000 dollars.The accuracy was Seiko-awful, the bracelet links bind, the case finishing is fine but nothing special.I quickly sold it for what I paid.
LMFAO
>>18180936No one shits on Rolex, but plenty of people have a meh attitude towards them and that's not what people pay $10,000 for.
>>18180843It fits in that general niche that holds morice lacucks, raymond wheel and constant freddy:>brand with a man's name that's either entirely fictitious or has nothing to do with an actual watchmaker>catalog composed entirely of knock off designs and insipid originals>"swiss made" by way of guangzhou, shitter zone price tier >middle class mall-tier "luxury" >customer base is clueless boomers that just want a swiss watch but can't afford rolex or even omega And the kicker is that "Christoper Ward" himself isn't even part of the company anymore lmaoNobody spends thousands of dollars for a luxury watch purely for what's written on a spec sheet, or because it looks like a "good deal" compared with other established names. There are intangibles that always come into play >muh finest mountainjew make>history and brand cachet>media product placementCHRWRD and the other brands in this category have none of these things and purchasing them makes little sense cept in the case of someone with lots of disposable income who can indulge in every passing whim. Anyone that buys them that's not like that will always end up regretting their purchase and would've been better served saying up their pennies for something actually luxurious or actually valuable instead. They always end up relegating their constant rayrice laweilward shitter mistake to a drawer if they're unable to pass it off to some other patsy with as little loss as they can.Buy casio, low jap, chink or high end; skip the shitter zone entirely unless you're made of money.
>>18180981tldr get a life nerd lmfao
>shitting on RolexWhat's even the point? They've won. No other brand will ever be able to catch on to them.
>>18180988This.Rolex cucks wish they were RM or Jacob & Co owner tho.This doesn't mean Rolex is bad, it's good value for the money.
>>18180981A trend I've noticed with those brands are their designs always seem more busy than actual luxury brands and I think it comes down to tasteless people thinking intricacies = skill = good taste. It's like with art, there are plenty of valid reasons to prefer classical art over modern art, but it's Philistines who think modern art is shit because it lacks the intricacy of most classical art, and vice versa, classic art is good solely because hundreds of man hours went into painting exquisite detail.But even that falls over with these watches because as you said, the cases are actually made in China on automated lathes and pressing patterns onto dials is trivial, but when they see that tiny trident on the seconds hand they're probably thinking "wow how exquisitely made it is!"
>>18180991Are we looking at different watches because I remember CW and DW and similar shitters being all into the "minimalism" shit, granted I haven't been on watch reddit for years
>>18180989>good valueDisagree, the movements are great and it's nice that it can be confirmed that they're entirely made in Switzerland, but very basic designs and finishing that is flawless but also simplistic.There's just not a whole lot that is special about them. Maybe stuff like the Yacht master II is actually interesting, but beyond that, basic tool watches with just a shit load of polishing and spec sheeting, which everyone does now.
>>18180994They're not basic, they're classic.They're tool watches yes, not meant to be a high luxury item like the other brands mentioned.Don't be a bitter poorfag anon.
>>18180994>the movements are greatI would've agreed with all of this talk about rolex, even though I personally don't think their designs have been good for 15 years now, until this business with their bum current calibre became known. It simply galvanizes my desire for the older models that don't have this 32xx movement.
>>18180981>>brand with a man's name that's either entirely fictitious or has nothing to do with an actual watchmakerlike rolex?
>>18180996>not meant to be a high luxuryYou wouldn't guess it from the marketing.>They're not basic, they're classicWell firstly, cope. Secondly, that's also the reason why they're almost generic looking due to being such widely copied designs. Like if you want to have the original then that does make sense, but it's kind of like Jeans, Levis is kind of like Rolex in that they can't claim to be the first but nevertheless do go heavy on the heritage angle and it's a compelling selling point that Levi's are "the" jeans brand people think of, but Levi's couldn't get away with claiming their products are basic but classic and not a luxury item but charging 10x as much for a pair as they do now.It's something kinda unique to Rolex and watches in general I guess.
>>18180996>They're tool watches yes, not meant to be a high luxury item like the other brands mentioned.NTA, but Rolex were tool watches 50 years ago, now they are just jewellery. I actually like Rolex except for 2 things, they don't finish their movements to a standard that is equivalent to the price they charge, and the maxi cases look like shit.
>>18180992DW specifically was a minimalist design but that was just coinciding with minimalism as a fad in general.
>>18181005>the maxi cases look like shit.Good news for you, then. The GMT is the only watch left that still has the Super Case (Rolex's official term for it). The only watches that ever had it were the GMT and the Sub.
>>18181000>rolex is man's nameretard
>Mere mention of Rolex makes /wt/ have a fitLmfao
>>18181011who name it is then?
>>18181013a made up word that's not meant to sound like it belonged to a long dead swiss watch cunt
>>18181014ok and
>>18181015and I'm mad about it, for some reason.
So did the chinks finally catch on to the swiss lies now that swatch sales dropped 70% there?
>>18181015>esl doesn't even get what point it was trying to makego back
>>18181008>ackchyually it's not technically a maxicaseWho cares? Post 2000s Submariner and GMT are beefy as fuck. Not to mention the ceramic bezel.OLD GOOD, NEW BAD
kys faggot
>>18181018They're rejecting western brands generally now, to be expected really considering the new cold war and the much more aggressive behaviour between China and the West. Westoids just want their cheap slop coming but apparently the Chinese feel like they need to take sides on this and therefore buy domestic brands more frequently.
>esl speakkys
>>18181023>Swatch isn't making chinese shitters and marketing them as swiss. It's TRUMP.
Did I fuck up?
>>18181029Instead of spoon feeding you, why don't you tell us what you think?
>>18181026Trump? It's Biden as well, it's the entirety of NATO breaking the one China policy and implying they're going to arm Taiwan like they armed Ukraine with presumably the same outcome expected.>Wah you just don't like my favourite presidentAnd being able to reduce geopolitics to this is the reason why westoids will continue to hand money to China hand over fist while calling them a threat to the world.But off-topic so not discussing it further, just don't be a bitch and interpret everything as a slight against trump in future, mkay buddy?
>>18181018Chinks with real spending power always knew since they own or have connections to all the oem factories that make generic "Swiss" shitters. They were even clued into Omega's tricks.Whether the masses of the chink burgeoning middle class has figured it out, I don't know. Doubt it. Any lessening of sales is more likely to stem from the general economic situation there that's leading to all those bank closures and other mess.I read an article noting that the wealthy chinese are going for the stealth wealth meme now and shying away from shit like LV bukkake'd clothing/luggage etc. Whether it's to hide their affluence from the govt's eyes, from the easily excitable peasantry that will literally tear them apart and eat them if things get really bad over there or because they've "ascended" to that perceived old money mentality, I dunno. But flashy shit that looks expensive is apparently on the way out among the chink elite these days so alooooot of brands that have tarted themselves up over the past 20 years are going to find themselves in the lurch.
>>18181019quite dog
>>18181020The one on the right looks like a gross parody of the left. Especially coz of that cartoonish bezel insert.
>>18181029designing some robo robobot shit where it's like capek got fucked in the ass by the television screen in start drek yea you fucked it if you bought you got fucked twice
>>18181037>quiteindeed
>>18181029>Hey is that an Aquan- oh, uh sorry I have to go
>>18181037yes, you are
>>18181035>Doubt itWhy? They must be aware of the fact they're the world's manufacturing base, it's just if westerners don't care if their "swiss watch" is actually made in china, why would the chinese care more about that?>It's because China is collapsingYes, according to the YouTube videos it will be any day now lmao, how can westerners be this oblivious to the effects of telling other nations to go fuck themselves? The west does it enough..
>>18181020A good reason I bought the Tudor Black bay 58 was that it has an aluminium bezel while most divers have ceramic now
>>18181044Lets be honest anon, you bought a BB58 cause you couldn't afford a vintage Sub.
>>18181044you mean a good excuse, the actual reason is your a poor loser
>>18181046You can have multiple reasons for buying a watch.A better question to ask would be:Why did you cope with your inability to afford a Rolex by buying a Tudor and not, say, an Omega or Grand Seiko?
I can be reasonably sure that my brand new Tudor hasn't been worn by someone while jerking off or fisting a hooker.
>>18181043I never said China's collapsing. I just pointed out that things aren't exactly going swimmingly like they have in previous years.Learn to read what's there and not invent shit to get mad about from anonymous posts.
>>18181046I don't like rolex logo,or Mercedes hands,also wanted something new,no expensive vintage shit because I wanted to use the watch and not babysit it.>>18181047Of course im a loser, that's why I am here.
>>18181052But as you said, you read it in an article and most external reporting on China aims to paint a picture of a nation on the brink of collapse.The point is this down turn in the purchases of western goods is because normally people don't like to buy products from people who are also antagonising you, it's not going to be because of stealth wealth that the Chinese stopped buying Swatch lmao
>>18181049Tudor will never shake the copelex association no matter what they do or come out with, sadly. Such is the consequence of being a sub-brand.No matter how hard they try to shill and with whichever celebrity or film placement, the buyer will always know deep down underneath the layers of caked up cope and possibly also mild seethe>I wish i'd bought/could've bought a rolex instead - what I really wanted
>>18181054lmfao poorfag loser
>>18181037Based Rana. Nobody shits on our Certina certified watch repairer.
>>18181057I think that's a bit unfair, Tudor got relaunched by Rolex to capitalise on the semi-recent trend of releasing shit loads of reissues of prior watches and the problem for Rolex is that how much more different is a Submariner Classic going to look against the current Submariner? Even having reissues under the Tudor brand would be too revealing of just how little change and lacking in innovation Rolex designs actually have, so they've resorted to Tudor needing to homage older Rolexes, ironically Tudors end up being fresher and more interesting designs because a BB58 is NOT a submariner, the BB chrono is NOT a Daytona, etc.
>>18181067If you wanted an old style Sub, just buy one of those. They made millions of them and the last generations of them aren't so old that they have folded endlinks and plastic crystals and stuff.
>>18181049>Why did you cope with your inability to afford a Rolex by buying a Tudor and not, say, an Omega or Grand Seiko?If I had to buy a Submariner cope I would probably buy a Tudor. It's such an obvious cope that you can only embrace your cope. >off course I want a Submariner, one day I will get one but for now my Black Bay 58 is all I can affordBuying an Omega or (even worse) a Grand Seiko can only result in eternal seething>N-NO I DIDN'T WANT A ROLEX, LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT SPRING DRIVE
>>18181069>>18181051
>>18181070>one day I will get one but for now my Black Bay 58 is all I can affordTrue, but then you have people typing out essays like >>18181067, trying to convince themselves that "Ackshually, today's Tudor is more like Rolex than Rolex itself is..."
I don't think tudor's a shitter but it'll never be rolex.Yeah I just said it. Fuck the lot of you faggots.
Finally got my hands on a AE-1500WH after wanting one for a while.It looks surprisingly nice IRL but I can't finish liking it. I can't get it to fit comfortably -- the strap is rigid in a bad way and the case feels hard on my wrist.Plus I have other beater digital watches. I think I'll return it, but it was nice to try it anyway.
>>18181076>EssayLmao okay brainlet, apparently it was too many words for you because that isn't at all the point I was making. I've no doubt people can buy Tudors because they homage older Rolexes, since that's exactly what Tudor exists to provide in an era where most major watch brands are releasing reissue after reissue, but the ironic thing is that Rolex can't reissue something they never discontinued, so Tudors aren't reissues they're homages and some of them are pretty nice in their own right.
>>18181081>Ackshually...It's all just cope.
>>18181081When seiko does a remake of the 70s version of a watch they still make today it is a reissue. It is not an homage.
>>18181084Do you have ADHD or something? I'll try in fewer wordsRolex design, stagnant.Reissues, the market demands.Reissue what isn't discontinued, impossible.Satisfy demand, release homage.Homage is not reissue, homage new design.New design from Rolex, finally, good!
>>18181087Yeah because said watch was actually discontinued at some point in the 70s as well.
>>18181090I can do it in fewer words still.>I want a Rolex but can't afford one. This Copewatch is actually better!
>>18181094I just like to see some new design, if that threatens you because someone might not recognise your watch as a Rolex, well then Tudor is your own damn fault.
>>18181094I think in come ways you actually can argue tudors are better than rolex in the case of tool watches. The point of a dive watch is to get banged around, so a much cheaper more brushed and rugged watch makes nore sense than the high polish shiny jewelry piece the submariner is today. You can even get a smaller much lighter version with the bb54.That's not to say tudor is better than rolex, just that it makes more sense as an actual beater watch that rolex was always supposed to be historically.
>>18181099No way because there's only one worthwhile tool watch now and it's the G-Shock, whether it's $5000 or $10000, it's not the price of a tool watch when something more accurate, tougher and legible in certain conditions can be had at disposable prices.In fact it would be nice to see more Tudors that are not homages of Rolexes, they are good entry luxury watches but while they're largely restricted to making homages of old Rolexes, it's just going to attract the ire of tryhards like the above anon or the wasteful spending of Rolex owner aspirant anon. Both equally cringe.
>get Tudor cause it looked like an upgraded spb143>get called called Rolex cope, wasn’t even looking at rollies I’m convinced 90% the peeps here don’t even LIKE watches
>>18181105>In fact it would be nice to see more Tudors that are not homages of RolexesWhen they try that, they fail. RIP North Flag. People want Rolex knockoffs from a company owned by Rolex.
>>18181106>I’m convinced 90% the peeps here don’t even LIKE watchesIf you can convince yourself that your Tooter isn't a cope, you can obviously convince yourself of anything.
>>18181108Effectively meaningless statement coming from someone that doesn’t own either
>>18181109I accept your concession.
>>18181107And that is a huge shame because people who buy Rolexes aren't tasteful wealthy grandfathers buying a beater for his casual soirées at the country club that they'll probably hand down to their grandson when he graduates from high school, it's more often by sadcases who need the Rolex brand on their wrist even more than Tudorfags do and that basically precludes new designs for the Rolex marque. The BB58 could have been a successor to the Submariner, but for years people wouldn't recognise it instantly as a Rolex let alone a submariner and the Pelagos would have the same problem, so it HAS to be a Tudor for anyone to buy it and it has to cost less so that Rolex owners don't feel like this new design is superior to their pride and joy.It's actually great for people who can swallow their pride and accept it's not a Rolex and that's fine.
>just buy a vintage RolexBut I don't see how I should buy a different watch,after all,all I care is about reliability and some otherbthings. For example,I don't like Mercedes hands,Rolex logo is rather ugly, Tudor one is bland but better than a damn crown,also rolex name is pretty dumb I prefer Tudor. And the bezel,old sub was alu,but I prefer coin style bezel instead of sharper borders like Rolex sub, that's a thing I also dislike in the new master chronometers,the bezel is not as smooth.Compare this to a vintage Rolex,they are not similar.
>>18181121You have to buy an ancient and inferior watch tonget something remotely similar to the bb58.
>>18181125I wish Tudor did golden hands too..........
>>18181029MULTIFART
looking for opinions, I'm gonna spam the board for two secs because I don't know how to make pictures.Cop or not:first one: the Joker.
datejust
explorer
sub
or the sub with the date
and finally, the one I think I actually want the most but also might not be a good idea, the purple OP
>>18181154Why is purple OP bad? That's the one you want.FWIW, the purple is a pretty interesting color. Depending on the light, it can look purple, gray, or even brown.
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>>18180494Completely seamless, as if it was made just for the datora.
>>18181143hate mercedes hands, cyclops & rolex so no cop>>18181145hated fluted bezzles, cyclops & rolex so no cop>>18181147hate mercedes hands & rolex, but would cop if I HAD to get a rolex>>18181150>>18181152I'd get a BB58 over a submariner any day of the week>>18181154Actually scratch the explorer from earlier, I prefer this one due to the touch of colour & the lack of arabic numerals
>>18181159Is it too 'trendy' is my fear. But you are right, it is the one I want.
>>18180964That is very helpful, even if only for managing expectations. Thank you!
