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The Fragrance Groups 101 Chart

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The Fragrance Flowchart for Beginners

I'm done with "challenging" stuff I just want to smell amazing and expensive
Can anyone suggest good frags that are appropriate for warmer weather? I like Bal d'Afrique but it's kind of boring and the performance sucks. GIT is my favorite fresh fragrance but it also doesn't perform at all which is a shame (and no CW isn't a good alternative, it smells low quality and screechy compared to GIT's greener, more crisp profile)

>>18774331
Bon Monsieur
Fougere L'Aube
Mousse Illuminee
Targhee Forest

>>18774332
Not at all what I'm looking for but thanks anyway

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>>18774325
Eau des Baux is my GOAT but the faggots over at L'Occitane replaced it with Cèdre Encens. It was a present from my father and now that it's discontinued I have to be even more frugal with it.

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>>18774331
>challenging stuff
>warmer weather

>>18774341
Challenging as opposed to universally pleasing. I just want to smell great to myself (and others) at this point

>>18774342
Most fragrances for warmer weather are mass appealing. Which challenging warm weather fragrances are you talking about?

>>18774343
Kouros, Risvelium, AdS, old school fougeres, etc
By the way anything that doesn't smell downright attractive is challenging to normalfags. Obviously to someone who's into fragrances the only "challenging" stuff would be artisanal ouds or memes like Spinal Fluid. So I'm using the former definition because I'm not autistic

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Every morning my dad applies this shit liberally and it is the loudest fucking scent imaginable. It announces itself, and it sticks. I've taken to putting a towel under my door and burning scented candles like I'm smoking weed. Part of me thought maybe he was doing the Middle School Axe Overuse thing with Polo Green, but now I think the scent is just announces itself that hard. I know in my room when he applies it in his. Often that shit wakes me the fuck up while it's still dark.
I've heard it described as "maculine." I've heard it described as offensive to "modern noses." I've also heard that it's been reformulated and that the new shit falls short. I have no idea. Maybe masculinity itself has changed. Maybe this scent was for an era when you could also smell someone's burning cigarette from 25 feet away on their suit, with Polo Green intended to linger atop it with its notes of tobacco. Maybe the scent is *missing* something in the absence of a cigarette. My dad has worn this shit his whole life and it has never before evoked this reaction from me.
Perhaps this scent *is* masculine, but it's for the kind of man who would have his speakers up all the way playing his personal theme song everywhere he went. I've heard it described as "money scented," and it is, like cigarette ash on the industrially-washed carpet of a 1980's casino.

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>>18774361
Literally you and your dad

Beautiful sunny autumn day, yet with a light breeze.

SOTD: Dior Homme Original

Last thread was pretty classic

>>18774370
was thinking of putting on some iris but went with Antaeus today. really nice day outside and would rather not be working

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Anyone have experience with Korres? I loved Oceanic Amber and it quickly became my daily all throughout the summer. I'm looking for a fall/winter equivalent that I can rock daily since they are pretty cheap and I won't weep with every spray, but so far their other options seem pretty generic

>>18774345
You might not be autistic but you're stupid and wrong if you think Kouros and fougeres are warm weather fragrances. I get compliments on both, they are not challenging even to normalfags. Warm weather fragrances are the most casual and mass appealing category of fragrances. You can pick any of them up and they will be appealing.

>>18774394
Kouros is a warm weather frag tho

>>18774394
Normalfags think your fougeres and pissy kouros/antaeus smell dated and like old people.

Thoughts on Tiziana Terenzi?

>>18774361
https://youtu.be/UrgpZ0fUixs

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SOTD it's good but weak imo

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I fell for arab meme again, how do I get this shit off my skin I don't want to smell it anymore

I'm waiting for black friday and christmas sales desu, if even that doesn't make me want to buy frags, I guess it's safe to say I beat the spending "addiction". It's still fun to test and smell new things, but somehow it doesn't always mean I want it on myself.

Went to a department store and the employee girl who was sort of cute but above my league really wanted to get me to spend. Recommended Armani I Will, "yeah already know it has a vanilla base", the new Valentino, and Paradigme, I said "yeah tested those already". She left then for other customers.
Should have said
>which one would mean a successful date with you
but alas I'm on 4chan, so it's not my ballpark.

>>18774395
It isn't.

>>18774403
Nope, Kouros smells pretty fresh and floral and people say they like it. I was surprised too.

Thoughts on Le Labo? Got introduced to it bc my gym has their soaps in the locker rooms, and they're really great. I haven't checked out their fragrances yet.

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>>18774405
Tested Tyrenum and it smelled like the marine/aromatic frag of my dreams. Their frags are good, but there are cheaper and sometimes more interesting alternatives, even in the niche/masstige pricepoint like Gritti and some Regalien frags. Would rather get an AdP and a TF or an Orto Parisi for the price of a Tiziana
>>18774503
Nah, most salespeople are paid to be nice or even flirtatious with the customers in order to make them spend. But you never know, next time take your shot anon, worst that can happen is you carry the shame of rejection for a few days.
>SOTD Yatagan

>>18774529
Very overpriced with poor longevity.

>>18774503
i dont believe true sales exist. things are pretty much "on sale" for the same price all year long

>>18774361
Normally I scoff at people who post this shit, but your dad is
>based

>>18774403
I get the whole ‘pissy’ thing with Kouros (even tho I register it as more body odor-ish than urinous) but I don’t get this at all from Antaeus. Perhaps it’s a vintage thing, but the modern bottles don’t have it at all (to my nose). It’s more… sour leather?

>>18774466
It’s definitely excellent, but I didn’t have too much issue with strength, could be a skin chemistry difference.

>>18774503
I wouldn’t get your hopes up for BF sales, most gray market places are already working on (somewhat) thin profit margins. The only things that will really go on ‘sale’ is the shit no one wants, because if people want it, they know they don’t need to further discount it to encourage sales.

The age of Black Friday sales is dead.

Also, while the “which one would mean a successful date with you” would be hilariously brave and bold (which most women value) hitting on sales associates is a waste of time. It’s like hitting on a stripper, it’s in their best interest to keep you interested and invested. It’s quite literally their job to get you to spend money. Two very different products, but the end result is the same, they’ll say and do almost anything to get you to keep spending and then their job is over.

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SOTD 7 sprays of Yatagan before work

>>18774361
>Getting brutally mogged by your own father
Ywnbaw btw

got around to finally trying Dior Homme Parfum today. it's quite nice. simple, clean, elegant. reminds me a bit of Prada L'Homme, but less soapy. might cop in the future

Been an interesting week, /frag/

>Scent of Yesterday: A Whiff of Waffle Cone
Gawd DAYUM people love this. I know frag hates sweet gourmands in general, and there’s the one dude here who loathes IA (or maybe it’s just he loathes jews? w/e) but normies (and myself) absolutely love it. Got multiple comments and compliments throughout the day.

Work with a lovely older lady who lost her sense of smell over the past few years and this frag is one of the few things she can still smell, any time I wear it she rants and raves about it. Referred to me as the king of colognes or scents or something like that, definitely put a smile on my face.

Then today, walked into the locker room in the morning and thought to myself… “Wow, it smells like Le Male in here… like lavender and something sweet.” which is unusual because usually I’m one of the only people to wear fragrance.
Go about my day and eventually catch another whiff of it in my work area when someone walks by. Eventually ask him what it is and he stumbles at first thinking “Gold something…?” Then finally he’s like, the one with the torso bottle. And I was like
“Oh, gold torso bottle? Le Male, Elixir.”
“Oh yeah! That’s it!”
So anyway, I’m just kind of impressed with myself that I was able to correctly (mostly anyway) blind guess a frag in the air - and then even confirm it.
>Thank you for reading my blogpost
>Thanks for coming to my TED talk
>And remember to have your pets spayed or neutered

How's AHS Cologne? I feel like I've seen every other flanker discussed but this.

>>18774503
Speaking of Black Friday where am I gonna get the best deals for fragrances

Is Bois Impérial a good inoffensive daily fragrance for all occasions?

>>18774576
Not sure if they will have Black Friday sales or not but these are all my bookmarked shops in EU if that helps. Also check the OP.

https://www.notino.com/
https://www.parfum-zentrum.de/
https://beautinow.com/
https://essenza-nobile.de/
https://parfumeriedusoleildor.com/en
https://www.nicchialuxury.com/en-eu
https://www.easycosmetic.de/
https://www.parfumdreams.de/
https://www.parfimo.de/

>>18774577
Sure why not, I would say so.

>>18774580
>Sure why not
Any other options you'd recommend?

>>18774577
it's pretty much made for that tbqh

>>18774577
>introduction to akigalawood face sloppa: the fragrance

yea sure

>>18774577
>Bois Impérial
>inoffensive
If you consider people smelling you and being overwhelmed before you enter the room "inoffensive"... sure.

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Got a bottle of Guerlain Chamade. It a shame something so amazing smelling as this is so dated and old fashioned. It starts green and snappy but it is very powdery, floral, and spicy. It settles into the smoothest, gentlest, amber and vanilla. The comparison to Chanel No. 19 is way off, unless the modern formulations have gotten closer. No. 19 is a crispier and biting green while Chamade is much more powdery and soft. Chamade is closer to vintage No. 5. Chamade's performance is not great, it stays pretty close to the skin after the first hour or so. It rarely comes to you and you have to seek it out. It's ok for such a cozy scent, maybe something to wear to bed. It's a bit too dated for me to wear out but I might wear it for myself or gift it to my mom.

>>18774615
just because it has good performance doesnt make it offensive

>>18774632
Bois Imperial is both, it's synthetic, screechy, and cheap smelling.

I wanna sample only 2 of these, which ones do I pick?

The Dark Side, Under My Skin, The Black Knight, The Lover's Tale

>>18774659
the black knight is the only one ive tried and its incredible. the only problem is that i dont really know what situation id wear it in but its a must try if you enjoy daring leather fragrances. its smells so disgusting in the best way possible

Seriously impressed by Sunrise on the Red Sand Dunes. To my nose it's 90% similar to Imagination, if not even more. The opening is very harsh but only lasts for a minute, and the tea accord is slightly, slightly more muddled, but unless you were literally sampling them side by side I don't think you'd notice. Performance wasn't awful, either - one spray, 5 hours walking around outside on a hot and sunny day and I could still smell it on my wrist from 8-10" away. At what, $20 bucks or so per 100mL, I wouldn't even think twice about decanting this into a little travel spray bottle to reapply throughout the day or just overspraying like an Armenian cabbie. Well fucking done, Zara.

I also had a chance to finally sample Le Labo... damn, that was disappointing. Another 13 was exceptional, I'll give them that, but everything else? The Noir smelled like an old granny's house, not the sweet kind but the kind that was successful or important in her youth but never got the memo that she's old and kooky now and all her friends are dead, that kind of granny. Santal 33... barely smelled like anything at all. The rest smelled like shit you could make with a playset of essential oils from Amazon, these niggers are out of their mind charging the prices they do for their shit.

>>18774527
it is

>>18774615
It got reformulated, performance is merely "good" nowadays.
>>18774633
What would you recommend instead for >>18774577?

>>18774577
Yes
>>18774584
I'd rather wear TdH EDT or encre noire a l'Extreme personally for a daily woody fragrance

>>18774720
Terre d'Hermes is the most boring inoffensive fragrance I can think of that would work for anything. Not as universal but less boring are Mugler Cologne, Premier Figuier, or Cologne Bigarade. Personally I rather underspray something that I find more interesting than wear something boring. When in doubt I usually reach for Dans Tes Bras or Purple Oud, sure they don't fit everything perfectly but nobody else will smell them if I underspray and I still get to smell something exciting through the day. Usually I'm more daring and wear whatever I want.

>>18774747
I have some interesting frags but I find myself wanting more and more something universally pleasant that I can just wear most of the time
Unfortunately I don't like TdH. I think BI is just my best option

>>18774754
If it works for you that's great but I don't find it pleasant at all. You weren't asking for something inoffensive, you were asking for something you liked which made your question pointless since only you could answer that. BI is not any less offensive or universal than anything else I mentioned.

>>18774756
Yeah for some reason it seems polarizing. On one hand most people find it attractive and interesting but some think it smells like bug spray. I guess no fragrance will ever be attractive to absolutely everyone anyway

>>18774466
yes it's goated, I get 12+ hrs longevity from my 7-8 yrs old bottle

>>18774577
overplayed, but yes

>>18774554
The old one was quite different. A darker black leather take on the dna with some rose oud elements

>Bon Monsieur finally back in stock on ecuacionnatural after months
>ready to finally place that sample order
>Spell 125 isn't in stock anymore
Fuck me with a rough stick, goddammit.

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Thoughts on the ADG line?

>>18774802
Perfect way to smell like an air freshener

I'm going to overspray Silver Oud tonight.

>>18774802
Painfully generic, boring sephoraslop

>>18774802
People with their heads in their asses will hate on it for being popular, but it really is an enduring and beloved scent. You should ignore people who lack perspective and having something to prove, like these guys. >>18774819
>>18774832

>>18774802
I have the Profondo, I like the smell even though I usually don't like marine smells but it lasts only an hour or two (or maybe I just go noseblind) so I tend not to go for it too often

Anything cool from Jovoy? I was eyeing Private Label and Pavillon Rouge.

>>18774833
I'm not hating on it for being popular, redditor. I'm saying it's generic. Furthermore, its performance sucks ass. It has no redeeming qualities at all.
There are other popular aquatics or marine scents that aren't painfully boring while also lasting as long as an EDC. The Kenzo line, Bvlgari Aqva, CW/GIT and others.

Are Xerjoff and Sospiro correlated?
They seem to have some very similar frags, which one is better?

>>18774843
Xerjoff, Sospiro and Casamorati are the same
All have good stuff and bad stuff. People here will shit on them because of the masstige meme but almost everything I've tried from Xerjoff has been very well-blended and complex

>>18774845
I meant like let's say I want to sample Accento or Erba Pura, both Xerjoff and Sospiro have it, which one do I sample or does it not matter?

>>18774846
They're essentially the same thing, might be minor differences in batches maybe but the scent profile is the same, just moved to another brand

>>18774845
>>18774847
NTA, but you mean the same as in Montale and Mancera, or PdM and Initio?

>>18774849
Yeah they're all Sergio Momo's brands

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>>18774802
They're good frags but the base AdG line really is disappointing when it comes to fixation and innovation, and I'm not hating like the other guys in the thread, I really think you could just get a cheap cologne that does the same job(like what >>18774839 said). Would rather just get Light Blue EDT.
>Profondo flankers
Now, this is where the fun begins. Don't bother with the EDT, it's just Armani's Light Blue, go for EDP or Parfum(specially Parfum) and it's one of the best marine/aromatic designer frags in that pricepoint, two sprays to last a whole day so even the 50ml will last forever.

>>18774659
Black Knight and Under my Skin.
I'd also make a case for Veloptuous Oud and Etruscan Water

>Parisian Musc came in the mail
what a sick frag. so good to finally have a fig frag that actually lasts and projects.

>>18774920
Where's the fig in it

>>18774946
it's not listed in the notes but it's very prominent when you smell it imo

>>18774833
Maybe it was cool when it came out but it's been knocked off by so many drug store fragrances and toilet sprays that it just smells cheap and generic to me. Probably not ADG's fault

>>18774970
Thanks I might get a sample, I really liked Debaser

>>18774486
All arab-made arab frags are sweet versions of better western frags.

The only good ones are where they straight up hire a western nose to build them a fragrance.
1) Musamam black intense
2) Teriaq Intense
and even these are quite sweet (though sufficiently balanced)

>>18775019
>The only good ones are where they straight up hire a western nose to build them a fragrance.
Speaking of, I noticed Sieuzac put his name on a bunch of gulfshit. For ex. Moonstone Noire, which is supposedly like Bvlgari Black. I have to wonder if he had any real involvement as a perfumer or if it was more of a "consultant" kind of role.

Dior apparently ‘re’ released a bunch of classics… Jules, Dune, Diorissimo, like 12 of them.

What’s the best patchouli out there?

>>18775049
Legacy designer scents will all be re-released in smaller, nondescript bottles for higher prices. yw bros

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>>18775019
i really like my arab perfumes

i have a dupe of porto nerofino, lost cherry, and lattafa khamrah, and one that i forget the name of, but it smells like rubber and petroleum and 20% of people hate it but 80% of people love it

>>18775055
Answer me

>>18774562
>So anyway, I’m just kind of impressed with myself that I was able to correctly
are you 17?

>>18775055
>portrait of a lady
>angel men
>guilty absolute

Is there ANY fall/winter frag that's office appropriate but can also be worn on a weekend out? I really don't want to annoy my coworkers but I don't mind a little projection in public.

>>18775083
Egoiste

Anyone here tried Musc Tonkin?

>be me
>take a shower
>apply soap on my armpits
>still smell bad
What should I do? Shave my armpits? I don't to get cancer by wearing deodorant.

>>18775134
Yeah, it's good, strong, and pretty unique as well. You should buy the PdE full lilne discovery set.

>>18775139
>apply soap on my armpits
>still smell bad
That's because you just wiped your armpits' bacterial biome so the bacteria that grows first and fastest is the one that smells the worst. There is no reason to wash your armpits. Just rinse them with water at most and dry them well. If you're going to be around people and engaging in physical activity like dancing just put a little bit of baking soda on your armpits and they will not stink. Just don't do it too often with large amounts, a little goes a long way. It's also not necessary if you're not sweating too much or if you're not going to be close to people.

tldr: don't wash your armpits with soap, water wash and dry

Intrigued by le labo, do some of their scents have actual density and staying power or is it all airy atmospheric bullshit?

>>18775153
This is insane advice. If I don’t wash my armpits with soap, they will smell instantly after I come out of the shower.

>>18775134
yes, it's great

Recently I've tried JPG Le Male Elixir Absolu - smells like soap with lavender. Fragrantica described the perfume like one of the biggest achievements in JPG perfumes. Youtubers described it as Elixir but better, more refined, for dudes in their 30s. But in my opinion it's like having a bath with lavender soap. I mean why is it so flat and dull.

>>18775174
Because the people reviewing the latest Le Male flankers on Fragrantica are the target audience for the newest Le Male flanker, retard

>>18775177
Is there a better Fragrantica alternative?

>>18775155
It's not advice. It's how your armpits work. It's no different than your gut bacteria. Using soap on your armpits is no different than drinking pure alcohol or bleach on an empty stomach. Your armpits are home bacteria. It's up to you if you want to nuke them all allowing fast growing and foul smelling bacteria to grow, or to allow a healthy biome of bacteria that literally doesn't smell because there isn't out of control bacteria making you stink.

I don't know what else to tell you. You have the solution to your problem. You can ask anybody around if their armpits stink after they exit the shower and if they use soap on their armpits. Those who use soap will stink, those who don't, wont. Feel free to continue with your problem
and your stinking armpits.

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>>18775174
Have you tried Jean Paul Gaultier's.... Pour Homme?

>>18775143
>>18775169
how does it compare to something like Khiel's Musk or Carnicure?

>>18775174
Elixer > Le Parfum > Absolu

>>18775139
>10 sprays of Kouros to your armpits
>daily, no bathing for a week
>chicks love it trust me bro

I am looking for a male fragrance in the sense that a woman might be near me, catch a whiff and think I'm incredibly smart, a real genius, I mean if I am going down that road of being honest about what I want, that is what I want, smart women, smart women who are interested in the arts.
I live in a cool climate, despite the fact it's been warmer lately. I don't care for fragrances that disappear after an hour.

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SOTD

>>18775072
>and one that i forget the name of, but it smells like rubber and petroleum and 20% of people hate it but 80% of people love it

That’s either Eclair or Rifaaqat. I love most Arabians but their vanillas are trash. Burnt tires.

>>18775139
>don't to get cancer by wearing deodorant
I don't want cancer either.... but what I REALLY don't want is to smell like shit... use deodorant anon.

>>18775200
This guy is Chinese, don't listen to him.

>>18775139
i use 4% benzoyl peroxide on my armpits in the shower every couple of days and it keeps them in check

>can barely smell megamare after 5 minutes even when I spray it on the back of my neck
>meeting a friend today
>I walk in front of her and she goes "you smell like your apartment"
>"yeah your whole apartment smells like this perfume and also right now you're filling up the room"
What the fuck man, I wish I could smell it

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What is the real reason that Creed changes the formulation of Aventus every year?

>>18775260
profit

>>18775252
>Episode 278 of how a fragtard made himself noseblind from overspraying.

>>18775268
I sprayed imagination 8 times 2 hours ago and can still smell it on me though

>>18775268
I have always been noseblind to megamare, dumbass. Ever since the first spray I could never smell much of it and thought I had a bad batch
Also depends on the aromachemicals, see >>18775271

>>18775260
>real
They sold so many they couldn't have, or care to have, consistent quality across batches. Inability to scale.

>>18775271
Keep doing that every day and see how that turns out.

>>18775273
Why did you buy and wear something if you don't know what it smells like?

im hosting a girl for dinner. doing a 4-course menu based around dishes from Emilia-Romagna. what frag should i wear?
im torn between Jazz Club and Basilico & Fellini

>>18775153
>t. 45kg asian girl

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SOTE
Trying a sample and all I can think of is squid ink in a pasta. Maybe some rubber too. I like it but can’t really see myself wearing it. Will probably end up trying the flankers.

>>18775232
bump, online says that cedar, vetiver, iris, galbanum, lavender, or chypre accords get closer.

>>18775233
How are you finding it?

t. Last Season enjoyer

>>18775332
I really wanna cop this because I have a 30% discount from my favorite seller but I have Terre D Hermes already

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>>18774626
mitsouko

I got a bottle of Guerlain Mitsouko. It starts with a similar Guerlain boozy note from the sweet woods and spices. You also get a little bit of smoke and aromatics. It settles into the peachy note, soft and cozy. I don't consider the peach note very fruity, it's not fresh and juicy but fuzzy and soft. It's surprisingly sweet but not in a modern gourmandy or overbearing way, enough to smoothen it out. Interestingly I noticed the floral more in the base. The performance starts great, it blasts you but after an hour it tamps down but you still get whiffs of it for hours after. It's a little dated but not as dated as Chamade, or Chanel No. 5. I find it wearable for certain occasions even if it's a little feminine. The biggest revelation is how much it reminds me of Derby. I hear Derby is supposed to be a reference to Guerlain's history so the similarity to Mitsouko makes sense. The sweet woody spice notes are eerily similar, especially the booziness. I find Mitsouko does what it does so well and it's so captivating. Derby is all over the place and sharper while it focusing more on the woodiness. Clearly not the same fragrance but even without taking into account the ridiculous prices for Derby, I think Mitsouko is a fun placeholder that is honestly better in most ways. For some reason I thought Mitsouko would be a harsh chypre but it's very soft and gentle. Goes well with a cool evening rain.

>>18775362
You might as well, it’s pretty different than TdH. I feel like TdH is still pretty fresh and the vetiver isn’t as pronounced. EN is a lot darker and earthy.

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SOTN Smells like woody embers

>>18775343
Like it a lot. Decent sillage, lasted all day. Will pick up a bottle when my sample runs out.

>>18775362
they are not similar desu

>>18775049
Looks like its all in the same splasher bottle too/no atomizer?

What are /fa/nons impressions of the existing, or even vintage versions?

Havent been able to try any of these in an older formulation previously, but Eau Fraiche, Diorling, Dioressence and Jules seem interesting to me.

The list of scents being reformulated, in what is now called the Dioriginals collection:
>Diorama
>Diorella
>Dioressence
>Diorissimo
>Diorling
>Dolce Vita
>Dune
>Eau Fraiche
>Higher
>Higher Energy
>Jules
>Dune pour Homme

SOTD: Pour Monsieur EdT. Holds up excellently.

>>18775441
for more recent stuff this is probably a measure to cut cost on the unique bottles, we'll see

SOTD: Akro - Infuse
Blind bought after really liking Awake. I'm relatively new to tea scents, so maybe I'm just easily impressed but I love this. Really green & slightly floral. It doesn't project super strong but seems to last well. Gonna make this my errand running frag

Any other good tea scents to try?

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Thoughts on Promise?

>>18775544
more wearable Oud Satin Mood

I layered my two stinkiest fragrances, Leather Oud and Kouros. I know layering is stupid but it was a fun experiment. The outcome was not good, the sweetness and civet from both became too radiant and overwhelming. The cardamom and beeswax of Leather Oud was present but the powdery fresh florals of Kouros were not a good contrast. Now, 4 hours later, what remains is the powdery musk of Kouros with the musk you get from Leather Oud at the base. This is what I thought the outcome would be from the start but it doesn't have much projection left. It's a nice stinky powdery musk but not better than the individual fragrances and definitely not worth what you have to endure.

>>18775546
Which other "manly roses" do you recommend I sample?
I really liked Oud Stallion.

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anyone have/tried Masque Sleight Of Fern? I like buying whatever fougeres are available in discounters.

>>18775557
Antaeus
Egoiste
Rose 31

>>18775557
>manly roses
PdE Le Cri
ELDO Exit The King
Chanel Antaeus
Tauer Incense Rosé/PHI Une Rose de Kandahar
Nicolai Rose Oud
Prin Saringkarn
>Oud Stallion
based, the only good Crivelli frag (Ruade still shits all over it tho)

How do I get into perfumes? Can you guys smell all the different ingredients?

>>18775587
>How do I get into perfumes?
Try out different ones irl for free or buy 1-2ml samples from different fragrance groups (first two images in the thread can be useful)

>Can you guys smell all the different ingredients?
Not really maybe the top 3-4 accords (the ones you see in fragrantica) but at the same time just because something is a sweet vanilla it can be completely different from another sweet vanilla frag.
The main questions for me come down to "do I like it" and "what would I give it as a score from 1 to 10"

>>18775524
The Cachemire by Dior

>>18775594
thanks

>>18775587
This anon >>18775594 is spot on. I would go further on to say that the notes and accords you see online are not always accurate. Even the notes and accords you get from the official brand are marketing. A perfume can list 3 notes and have dozens if not hundreds of synthetic and natural ingredients. Try things in person, if you find something you like look for things from the same perfumer, same brand, and similar perfumes. Never forget to have fun and enjoy yourself. Your nose is one of a kind.

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SOTN Smell like literal shit

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>>18775562
yeah it's one out of the four samples in the Opera Collection Discovery Set that I liked. And I haven't tried that many different fragrances so it's at the top of my head when I think about fragrances.

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>sotd
soo comforting

>>18775744
Which others did you like out of curiosity? And which did you dislike?

>>18775767
I'll give you a hint, you guess :p. I liked two from act 1 and two from act 4 (with sleight of fern being one of the act 4 ones)

>>18775790
snca trogshit probably. Only good ones are sof and russian tea, the rest are absolute skips

Just put in an order for Zino and Égoïste. Did I fuck up?

What Parfum d'Empire fragrance should I buy with my discount code? Le Cri, Azemour, Ambre Russe, Cuir Ottoman, and Vetiver Bourbon were my favorites from the full line discovery set.

>>18775665
skill issue

>>18775745
based

>>18775794
no those two can cover all your fall/winter frag needs

>>18775796
Eau de Gloire, Mal-Aime (or Ruade if it's allowed)

>>18775790
Hmm, Terralba and Russian Tea in Act I?
White Whale as the second one in Act IV?

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Where my Montagne heads at

>>18775792
>>18775805
Weird thing happened with Terralba to me. When I sprayed it for the first time it smelled amazing, best thing I've ever smelled. Then I didn't spray it again for an entire month. Second time I used it (a month later), it spelled like kitchen spices, literally nothing like the first time. And it never went back to smelling how it originally did. Idk wtf happend. Is Terralba's real smell the really good one from when I sprayed it for the first time or is it the shitty kitchen spices one that it turned into? I have no idea lol. I'll need to try someone else's bottle one day to figure it out. Anyways, I don't count Terralba as one of the four good ones because of that but if it's supposed to smell how it did the first time then it might be my favorite of all time.
I'm not giving any more information :p

You guys got a Discord?

>>18775790
>>18775805
I would also guess white whale from act iv (was also considering getting that one)
Russian tea and montecristo for act i

>>18775820
i think someone used to post a discord group a long time ago, i never joined though

Looking for a good tobacco frag that's smooth. Not too heavy on the tobacco. Not too smoky, not too sweet. Just a well balanced frag for fall and/or winter. Can you guys recommend something?

>>18775745
Based, unfortunately in my country all you can really find nowadays is the (relatively) overpriced Parfum flanker.

SOTD: Eau Sauvage

Is Creed black people cologne?

>>18775849
Aventus is leaning that way but, in general, no.

Is Wulong Cha really a tea forward frag or is it more of a citrus?

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How come you can find 800+ EUR frags for 250 EUR in discounters?
How does that kind of discount make sense?
One part of me is like omg you can get an expensive bottle for so cheap and then the other is like that's still 250 EUR for 100ml don't be tricked.

>>18775857
Fakes

Struggling to find Chanel locally...

>>18775860
This site is legit so I doubt it, jomashop has it for a similar price too.
It is weird when you search this fragrance half the shops list it for 800-900 EUR and the other half for 250-300.
I'm not interested in the frag just wanted to open it as a discussion

>>18775857
>>18775860
https://www.parfum-zentrum.de/ is definitely legit and doesn't sell fakes. I have ordered from there many times.

>>18775839
Rogue Tabac Vert

>>18775846
>SOTD: Eau Sauvage
based

>>18775857
cash grab sloppa brands with huge margins get discounted to reasonable prices all the time

>>18775860
wrong

>>18775544
Headache-inducing hot mess of a frag.

Has anyone tried Ganymede Extrait? I only smelled the cap but the top notes seemed better than Ganymede EDP's

>>18775849
i dont know what black people cologne means

>>18775932
Ganymede but with the curry note dialed waaaaaaay up
>inb4 noooo you are not allowed to say that
whatevs

What is the white man's masstige or niche brand?

>>18775962
Essential Parfums

>>18775962
Parfum d'Empire

>>18775962
some nordic shit like Stora Skuggan or Fischersund

>>18775964
This is the new bianchi
>endlessly shilled in these threads
>decent quality but nothing exceptional yet presented as some kind of top tier masterful house and some PdE shit is now the answer to anyone asking for a recommendation
it's tiresome, fuck off

>>18775969
no it isn't
yes, they are great
no

>>18775971
yes it is
no they're not
yes

fuck off

Unironically most "masstige" houses absolutely shit on everything PdE, Bianchi or Nicolai have ever done. Of course 4chan faggots being ever-contrarian, in a thread about fragrances there'll be a bunch of neckbeards shilling the most mediocre unimpressive bullshit ever while dismissing actually good frags

>>18775978
post these masstige frags, maybe you're right

>>18775811
I’ve considered getting a few bottles but I don’t really trust the reviews I’ve seen. Their general style just screams shitty internet advert to me so I have been hesitant to pull the trigger.
What’s worth trying from them?

>>18775980
African Leather and Falcon Leather are better than all of Bianchi's leathery animalics
Ambre Levant is a way better ambergris accord and overall fragrance than Byzantine Amber
Jubilation 40, Grand Soir and YSL 6 are better than Ambre Russe
Azemour is painfully average and gets mogged by Hermes orange verte
Le Cri is a worse, overpriced CDG 2 with a more prominent rose
Madagascar is inferior to most competent vanilla fragrances including Babycat and is about as impressive as Jazz Club for that kind of scent profile
Ruade is okay. A generic oud, nothing groundbreaking as with all other PdE
Or du Serail or even Naxos are unironically leagues better than Tabac Tabou
NYI fucking sucks ass, it smells like the lemon polishing product I used on my wooden floor in my old apartment, if you want to smell like this while larping as a conoisseur of classic french perfumery just get Habit Rouge and be done with it
All other Nicolai are so underwhelming they're not even worth mentioning

And that's only from the top of my head

>>18775857
>How come
>omg you can get an expensive bottle for so cheap
That's why lol, people fall for it all the time. Nobody pays full price but they still pay more than double because it's "discounted". Small minds.

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Not getting a frag unless it is long lasting+ or strong+

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Thoughts on this house?

>>18775993
Yeah same.

>>18775993
I wear my short lasting fragrances in the morning and by the time I get home or before bed I wear something long lasting.

>>18775997
A couple good frags (Speed Legends, Talisman, Demon Dancer) but the rest are pretty generic and wildly overpriced

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>>18775985
>Azemour
>average
>gets mogged by Eau d'Orange Verte
wrong on both accounts, the Hermes (cologne version) is way more airy, way less complex and can't mog anything that lasts more than ten minutes
>Le Cri
>CDG 2
not even close
>larping as a conoisseur of classic french perfumery
lol wtf

>>18776028
Concentré, not eau
>not even close
>lol wtf
Not an argument, now stop shilling this mediocre brand, noselet.

>>18776029
>Not an argument
they are not even close, CDG2 is a very airy, futuristic and synthetic frag (smelling like ink in a high quality magazine) and Le Cri is a natural smelling wet and musk(y) rose
>now stop shilling this great brand
no, i don't think i will

>>18776038
>meme descriptions
They're both aldehydic florals and have a very similar scent profile except Le Cri is overpriced and boring while CDG 2 at least manages to be kinda interesting even though it's not great either
>no
Suit yourself annoying faggot, just don't expect anyone to care about your garbage brand

>>18776040
>have a very similar scent profile
no, they don't
>Suit yourself annoying faggot
cope, seethe and dilate

>>18776044
yes, they do
keep projecting tranny

>>18775978
bianchi is actually good, though

>>18776075
Some of her stuff is pretty good, but most of it is derivative, she has the same problem as Tauer (a few excellent fragrances, then riding on that wave and churning out mediocre shit hoping to be able to coast on the reputation of their initially great work).

>>18775978
>>18775985
i never understood the point of these claims. brands aren't factions you need to be fully aligned with. you can like a couple frags, or even a single one, from the brand and call it a day.
looking at the comparisons made here, i can't really agree with most the claims but it's also fairly subjective at the end of the day. me personally, i own a mix of nivhe, designer and masstige because i happen to like those specific frags. the brand and DNA is irrelevant to me because i look at it on a case by case basis

>>18776079
I entirely agree with you though
My original post called out the annoying faggot who keeps raving on about PdE like everything they shit out is genius. Brand shills with this kind of obnoxious team mentality are insufferable

>>18775865
Aye, happens throughout fashion world in general. Anything where you're dealing with markups, RRPs. Some places are getting nearly 5x profit on a sale. I work in luxury eyewear and grey market import stuff, that is still legit, can often be 1/3 the price easily. Everyone wants a piece, but not everyone gets the biggest piece.

>SOTD Ormonde Jayne Man
Feels clean, man

>>18776083
>I work in luxury eyewear
Thoughts on Matsuda?

>>18775968
I've sampled all of the Stora Skuggan and I'd say it's more of an artsy white girl brand imo. Didn't find a single one, besides maybe 1 or 2 of them FB worthy

>>18775985
To be fair to Bianchi, African Leather is undeniably good, but I wouldn't say it reaches the complexity of Black Knight for e.g

As for PdE, I'd agree that most are alright but nothing insanely good. I found a few of them full bottle worthy, but have never pulled the trigger on one simply because there was more interesting shit i wanted to buy.

>>18776079
It's like the tribal nature of humans becomes the default state no matter the topic.
>sports
>politics
>brands
Etc
People will have this tribal loyalty for something and then shill for it out of their own free will

>>18776087
Black Knight and Dark Side are definitely her best. Not a fan of Etruscan Water but it's worth a mention, alongside Sticky Fingers maybe. The rest of what she does is not amazing
>most are alright but nothing insanely good
That's pretty much my gripe with them as well, yes

>>18776080
its just one guy and we all have learned to ignore him for the most part

>>18776084
Matsuda is quality - good designs. Very sleek, modern look, with some really funky models. I rate it highly.
Another brand I deal with is Masunaga, which is a good one to look into. Their designs are more classic, somewhat retro and heritage (besides the K3 collection). Robust and quality build.
Also in the same realm of luxury Japanese eyewear is Yuichi Toyama, one of my favourites. The feel of those frames in the hand is incredible, perfectly engineered. Subtle, classy.

>>18776107
NTA but what is the point of "luxury" eyewear?
I'm wearing some eyebuydirect aviators for 5 years now and they held up alright, so if build quality for the cheap ones is good enough, the shapes are pretty much almost the same, why pay more for luxury frames?

>>18776078
>Tauer (a few excellent fragrances, then riding on that wave and churning out mediocre shit hoping to be able to coast on the reputation of their initially great work)
His best stuff is not even his most popular stuff. Did you get filtered by flowers?

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>>18776107
Appreciate it, thanks man. I'd like to save up for some Matsuda frames and I also have heard good things about Masunaga indeed (and Jacques Marie Mage as well)

>>18776116
>the shapes are pretty much almost the same
It's the details and finish, pic rel

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>masstigefags and designerfags fighting nichefags
lmao

>>18776121
If you don't think his best are LADDM and Phi you're just a contrarian

>>18776116
Similar in breadth to how in the perfume world, you can get a cheap fragrance that brutally mogs something 6x the price. Sometimes you can strike it good with cheaper eyewear. I've even got a Chinese 1:1 copy of a Gentle Monster frame that's still at least some kind of pig titanium and nobody can tell the difference on face.
But others are, more often than not, designed in such a way that the stress points (mainly hinges or bridge welds) will likely give out after about a year or more of use (think Specsavers). Which plays into the planned obsolescence of getting a new eyetest and a new pair of specs every year.
However, with quality (non mass produced luxottica) eyewear, ergonomics, materials, construction are all (usually) optimised to the point where it can ostensibly last you a lifetime. Gold elements on frames turn it into a statement, and essentially a piece of jewellery. Titanium for example does not rust. The highest grade of Japanese titanium is the pinnacle. No rusting, keeps form, stronger and much lighter than steel. Silver elements embedded into premium acetate become a work of art that is hard to reproduce -- think Chromehearts. You've also got buffalo horn, ebony, leather, a lot of natural materials that add a sense of rustic luxury. Like wearing a premium aged leather coat.

Then sometimes it's also simply prestige, or masstige, where people want a designer Dior or Chanel that's being shilled or hyled in media, social media, etc. The quality is nothing over the top, but the designs are pleasing and give you everday luxury.

The parallels with the rest of the fashion world is the same. Based on peoples needs, wants, budget, etc.
A cheaper brand I can vouch for the quality of just off the top of my head is Vycoz. South Korean. Literally 1/4 the cost of Jap luxury brands. Spring steel (not titanium) which is still extremely strong and light. Screwless designs a la Lindberg or Germanshit like Mykita or ic Berlin, also for like 1/4 the price.

>>18776080
yeah fair but at the same time this is a frag discussion board so you're always going to get people that are excited about a specific brand. i wouldn't call it shilling since that's a bit the point of these threads. like when a new movie comes out, it's not shilling to discuss it.
i do think though that PdE is a well balance brad that does nice niche perfumes. i think they're all fairly unique and have a decent price to them as well

>>18776130
Rose de Kandahar is not his most popular, a floral, and not part of his initial releases. You're literally agreeing with my entire post so I don't even know what ass-backwards arguments you are even attempting to make.

>>18776136
It's one of his well known early works alongside LADDM, Cologne du Maghreb and Le Maroc Pour Elle.

>>18776158
I can't tell if you're arguing out of malice, ignorance, or both. Rose de Kandahar, was 7 -8 years after LADDM. Lonestar, Incense Rose and Extreme were way before and more well know before Rose de Kandahar was released. Again, what are you even arguing. You clearly know nothing of what you're talking about.

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>>18776128
>tfw a clonechad

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Thoughts on Lorenzo Pazzaglia?
Seems to have a lot of summer frags with good performance which is kinda rare.

>>18776262
his brand kinda shows that good performance != a good frag. to me at least, they're heavy, synthetic and cloying.

>>18776286
Damn alright Ill have to see for myself.
So hard to get good performance summer frags, I didn't like the orto parisi ones

>>18775993
Based but don't rely on those fragrantica polls. They're not always accurate.

>>18776295
Isn't vibrato a notoriously good performing summer frag or does it smell too synthetic?

>>18776132
What's something cool and in style recently, i guess it depends on head shape, mine is ovalish

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>>18776314
If your face is rounder, try some square or more angular frames. It's all about proportion too, needs to fit properly and not be too big or too small proportionally to your face.
Rimless has been making somewhat of a comeback as part of that general late 90s/early 2000s revival. Especially styles like Cartier square rimless sunglasses. Chopard have their own versions of it, so does Linda Farrow. DITA META-EVO ONEs for e.g. are a bulkier version of this. If you want a budget version of the look, check out the new Ray-Ban ASAP rocky square rimless sunglasses release.
In general, try sleeker/slimline designs, maybe with a bit more wrap to the frame and something that doesn't have too much depth. It's one of those things where you have to try them on because it will either work or it will look silly depending on face proportions, shape, etc.
As for colours, in acetate tobacco coloured transparent frames have been in recently. Try lenses that aren't grey/dark green or brown for a change.
Retro styles like thick oversized acetates or 70s inspired metal frames are also having their moment like picrel from Cutler & Gross.

>>18775993
>>18776301
What are some genuinely good, very long lasting and projecting frags, aside from Bois imperial?

>>18775997
love it

>>18776021
Fleur Narcotique and Hedonist Extrait are goated. overpriced for sure, but everything in that price range is.

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>>18776354
>genuinely good
>Bois imperial
It smells terrible.

>>18776354
Most very strong frags tend to not be great
BI is one of the few that is actually nice.

Wearing Black Tie on an arm and Angelique Noire on the other.

Black Tie has a sort of tanned leather note that reminds me of the suede note in Babycat, does anyone feel the same?
There's nothing leathery in the official notes though, or on Fragrantica or Parfumo, and the closest thing there is oakmoss, but I don't get the same impression from classic men's frags that supposedly contain(ed) oakmoss.
I don't think it's the orris butter, seeing that plenty of other frags that are full of it smell sort of plasticky but not as leathery; not even Cuir Ottoman has this somewhat penetrating, somewhat acidic tanned leather smell.
Angelique Noire is much more naturalistic and green and airy.
It doesn't feel as well blended, but I'm sure there's some serious ability required to make the vanilla and angelica smell this distinct.
At any rate, they both smell and feel good but not enough to justify their asking price.

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Anyone tried the Alain Delon Hommage by Lalique? Semi-recent but haven't heard much buzz. Seems pleasant according to the notes.

>>18774323
hello, I'm looking for a masculine fragrance that smells like the sea.
I looked at Zoologist Squid and I like the sound of that, but preferably it would be something I can more easily purchase online.

>Finally buy a bottle after 10 weeks of research, testing samples, and different batches
>Move on after 3 days and find a better fragrance

Am I unwell?

>>18776459
Megamare if you like amberwoods and calone

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Just ordered 50 more samples again... surely this will be the last time I do that

>>18776469
it will only get worse

sotd: Bianchi Byzantine Amber

>>18776504
based hoarder

>>18776469
>>18776504
You could avoid all this by blind buying but as long as you're having a good time, that's all that matters.

>>18776469
yes, you have a fragrance addiction

>>18776504
>tfw softcapped on samples because I tested so much
outside of cheaps, arabs and designers you are out of luck in some places, nowhere to rest vintages and privé lines

>>18776262
disagree with the other reply. I really enjoyed Van Py Rum, and Van Sea (chocolate oceanic mineralic). Summer Hammer is a nice sangria-esque frag that isn't too sweet.

>>18776619
How is blind buying better than buying samples then buying the bottles you really like?

>>18776671
Did not say it was better, just saying the things they pointed out like moving on quickly from a fragrance and buying countless samples doesn't happen with blind buying. If moving on as soon as you get a bottle and compulsively buying samples are good things then carry on. There is no need to get defensive about a solution if you're happy with the problem.

>>18776685
>doesn't happen with blind buying
why not? just blind buy something else on repeat
same problem

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SOTN I mixed Interlude 53 with Purpose 50. I smell like Bloodborne Church

>>18775020
imagine a sweet Bvlgari Black. That sounds like it sucks ass.

>>18774552
based chemical warfare enjoyer

>>18775997
Overrated. Speed Legends is just Dior Homme Sport, Hedonist is just Tygar, Blue Talisman is just gay pear.

>>18774802
THE safe workplace scent line. Spiced floral nothingness. Some flankers also making it spiced marine floral nothingness by adding some salt. Absolutely no reason to own more than one, and all of them are available at the mall to smell before purchase.

>>18776459
Oud Minerale by Tom Ford. Acqua di Sale. Le Sel d’Issey by Issey Miyake.

>>18776504
Do it for the joy of sampling, variety, the experience. Not to solve fragrance for yourself.

How different is Hacivat from Aventus? For reference I kind of hated Aventus because of how fruity it is but I enjoyed the smoky birch and oakmoss aspects.

Best Amouages?

>>18775849
Joop

SOTD Al-Rehab Lord

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>>18776732
saarr

>>18776732
Lord Blue is better

>>18776083
>>18776084
>>18776107
I'm happy with some austrian Silhouette frames I bought. Good screwless construction, extremely light and held up much better than the luxottica shit I had before

I've been curious about Le Labo, can anyone tell me which of their frags are worth sampling?

>>18776807
Order the full line discovery set and stop asking. Le Labo is overpriced masstige slop.

>>18776813
>masstige
Thanks for indicating I shouldn't take your opinion seriously

Anyone else who isn't terminally online?

>>18776807
>>18776813
>>18776814
>gets the correct answer
>seethes
Well done Anon.

>>18776814
>terminally online
You just described the Le Labo customer. Go to the store and try them, nobody here cares because for the price you can get literally anything else.

>>18776823
Using the term "masstige" outs you as a 4chan brained faggot who has nothing of worth to say

>>18776825
>he says as he asks for opinions in a thread dedicated to discussing smelly water

>>18776695
That would only be true for people with unlimited funds, for everyone else buying full bottles places a limit on how much you can buy and forces you to spend time with your fragrance. To reiterate, if you are having fun in the perfume death spiral you're free to continue. It's natural for an addict to object to the cure.

>>18776825
Bro go buy your overpriced Le Labo, the people who care are not here.

What are some sleek minimalistic frags that don't have dogshit performance
Something like Hwyl or Hinoki but that doesn't last as long as an air freshener

You would unironically get better recommendations on reddit than on this shithole thread

>>18776837
This is the case for most "interest" threads on 4chan. A recurring thing here is that people tend to latch onto the most dogshit stuff possible out of sheer contrarianism
That being said I will never use reddit because it has a bunch of other issues