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>Even the most handsome men look. Average as fuck if they bulk up a little bit

Is the Leanpill real?
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>>74115570
its like a superpower pill for self esteem. i went from 20 to around 15 and its already a huge difference.
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>>74115570
Having a lean face is more attractive than having a strong body, yes.
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>life starts at 12% BF
dont know if this is true but im on my way to find out
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There's are reason male models always stay at a bf% between 8% and 12% even if it means sacrificing muscle mass. Because it shows in the face.

Average male model: 10% body fat
Average male: 21% body fat

Do with this information as you will
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Look at the most attractive people you know in real life then look at their arms. They'll very often have visible veins meaning very low bodyfat.
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>>74115596
I have never seen my six pack in my entire life I wonder if I am missing out
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>>74115570
nah
or i mean yea, it is, but you will never achieve the level of leanness that actually makes a difference

you wouldnt last a week with a visible sixpack before binging your brains out and returning right back to your fatty starter weight again

12% isnt what people think it is. 12% is well into fully visible sixpack territory and you have most likiely never even been close to that. and if you do get close to that you wont be able to maintain it
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theres only 3 types of people that are able to stay sixpack lean year round

anorexics,
teenagers under the age of 18 and junkies
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>>74115570
I'm an alcoholic with the same face as Bradley Cooper. My bodyweight fluctuates quite a bit throughout the year depending on how well I am abstaining or how badly I am abusing.

When I drop below 20% bf women start checking me out a lot more and as I get lower their interest increases exponentially. Women throw themselves at me when I get lower than 15% bf.

When I gain weight the inverse happens; when I get above 22% I'm basically invisible to women.

So as a guy with a lot of experience in this matter I can confidently say the leanpill is an absolute game changer.
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>>74115633
The leanest I have ever been was 14.9% and I was already looking pretty lean wonder if that 3% could have made a huge difference
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Take the leanpill if you wanna live
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>>74115665
it does, but its unsustainable unless you pop appettite suppressants like ozempic i guess. or start smoking ciggies

now that i think back. i was leaner back when i smoked ciggies than i am now on hgh and tren
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>>74115570
Jannies ban the spammer
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>>74115679
WAHHHH WAHH JANNY I PEED MA PANTS HELPPPP
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>>74115679
If you need help from someone who works for free you should go back to fagddit
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>>74115679
Leanmaxxing threads are unironically good because they make me regret spending my youth permabulking
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>>74115596
It really is
I didn’t even notice a difference myself but suddenly women notice my existence, even though I’m smaller, super weird. It was when I dropped to something like 12% with little water weight.
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>>74115570
>get lean
>train neck
wow congratulations you just achieved 90% of looksmaxxing gainz (granted you’re not b*ld)
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>>74115570
All of the pics in the left column are from the fucking mid-2000's. The Tom Cruise one is probably from the 90's.
Yeah, people usually look worse after 20 years, especially since these actors were specifically known for their youthful good looks.
Retarded thread.
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>>74115758
??
None of them have “youthful looks” on the left they all look grown. They’re just lean and handsome
But yeah no shit people are gonna look worse at 50 than at 30 but it doesn’t mean you should just give up and become fat
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Do I need to take the lean pill?
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>>74115820
All 3 of those guys were considered the 'pretty boys' of their heyday.
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>>74115995
You know what happens to “pretty boys” when they turn 25?
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>>74115570
>tfw lean but ugly
ok and now?
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>>74116003
Better luck next life
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>>74115570
It is. I went from 23% bf to 15% and it's soooo good.
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>>74116003
Don't worry about what you can't control, improve those things that you can
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>>74115570
how retarded do you have to be to think this is some esoteric unproven thing
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>>74115570
>get stronger
Why would I want to do that? All the super hot chick's dig it, if someone with literally 2x my bench decides to beat me up it just is what it is.
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>>74115570
Just watch ANY survivor show where the contestants lose a lot of weight. Both the men and women always look better by the end of the show
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>>74116664
when was the last time you beat someone up to get a gf? when was the last time you lost a gf because you got beat up?
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>>74115603
/This
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>>74115570
Why is the “leanpill” even a thing on this board. Like no shit retard, losing weight makes you look better. Do you want a medal for this discovery?
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>>74115669
Goals.
I'm working on doing this for myself rn.
>SW: 271.2 lbs
>CW: 182.4 lbs
>GW: 170 lbs

Currently on day 7 of a 10 day fast to break through a plateau. Wish me luck bros.
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>>74115570
Based leo taking the sam pill and still banging 22 years old models
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>>74116780
>>74116780
"end This"
that doesn't make sense
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>>74116839
This
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>>74115570
Plump Tom Cruise could be mistaken for Norm Macdonald!
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>>74116822
Great progress, looks like you don't need any luck at all. Go get 'em tiger.
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>>74116829
its over for sam

he fell for the roidtranny meme
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>>74115679
post body
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>>74115647
coping powerfatty detected
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>>74116656
If it was a known truth you wouldn't have hundreds of women spending thousands of dollars for buccal fat removal surgery
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>>74117488
i'm talking about people who aren't retarded and have seen the comparison pics. it's obvious if you're aware of it and see evidence that weight gain will harm your facial aesthetics
bro is the lean pill real??
is the 2+2=4pill REAL??
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>>74115669
Actually jawdropping, holy shit

>>74116822
Great work bro
I started at over 350 and I'm nearly below 250, still so much more to go but I can definitely do it.
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Went from women literally avoiding eye contact with me back in January at 210lbs at 25+% bodyfat
>Which is what made me realise I need to cut
To woman giving me wide grin smiles as I walk past. Currently 194lbs at 13.8% according to the calipers

Even getting stares from other dudes at the gym. One of the gym bros who I talked to on the regular asked me if I've gotten bigger. And I just "no, I've lost weight"
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Yes. Matt Damon in particular now just looks like he manages a Wal-Mart in Des Monies, Iowa.
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>>74117606
I really noticed the face gains when I was trimming my goatee and realised it wasn't visible on my neck anymore
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>>74115620
You arent. Almost nobody has abs and even those who do, it doesnt look like a cartoon character or your carefully curated instagram picture. When you are looking down, it doesnt look like anything and when you are sitting, full of food, bloated, you might look fat even despite being 8-10% bodyfat.

But then again, what is abs? I was around 20% bodyfat and people were telling me I look super lean and im like the leanest guy in the gym etc. Its all relative and depends how much muscle mass you have, what type of build you are etc. Some normies might think that 2-4pack with the slightest definition is "ripped".

Im lucky to have really lean face even when bloatmaxed. And then I think that naturals look the best at around 15% bodyfat. Thats when you can still hold all the size, have definition and progress in the gym is good.
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>>74115729
I had more attention at 6’2” 150lbs than I did while fat, still more than I did when I began to bulk up and got to like 180lbs 15% bodyfat.
I wonder what kind of attention I’d get if I was 6’2” 190lbs-205lbs lean or if it would be more being scrawny. I can’t believe I’d have more at 150 than around 200lbs lean.
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>>74117606
Honestly its all good but im just saying this was and still is all just in your head. Again its good that you are solving your mental issues but you are probably just more confident now, look happier and smile more etc. Trust me, you didnt go from women avoiding eye contact to now making everyone wet at mere sight of you. You are not that guy pal. You need to be like Pietro for that to happen, even his life isnt anime. Or you must live and train around the ugliest mother fucking people on this earth.

When you were fat you were unhappy, no confidence and you just thought that everyone else thinks that you are ugly too. Now you are more confident and you are feeling yourself and now you are reading all the signs completely other way around. When in truth there is no difference in the signs. They are the same, you just interpret them differently and currently you are interpreting them in EXTREMELY delusional manner. Trust me, women arent giving you wide grins and dudes arent staring at you. You. Are. Not. That. Guy. Pal.
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>>74117004
good god what a fucking ogre
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>>74117606
proud of you bro but honestly i don't know if the goatee is working for you. if you don't want to go clean shaven then i would try the managed-stubble-beard look at least. it seems to be popular these days, at least among dudes closer to 30
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>>74117664
Serious cope
>>74117707
He’s got a good jawline and clear skin to show off, seconding this.
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>>74117707
>i don't know if the goatee is working for you
I like it. I'll probably go clean shaven once I hit 10% as I know I have a very defined split in my chin that I used to have when I was a really skinny teen
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>>74115570
>Is not being fat a benefit to your level of attractivity?
The world may never know
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>>74115570
Yeah. I really got lean, not just normal lean but chiseled face ripped abs lean and women kept smiling at me and looking longer than usual and it caught me off guard for a while
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>>74115669
From a 2 to an 8
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>>74115679
Faggot
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>>74117690
Last time I was 10% bodyfat girls would literally come up to me at the bar hitting on me and I fucked 5 of my coworkers in the span of a month
When I’m 20% bodyfat none of this happens
>muh confidence
Go back to r*ddit. Nobody cares about muh confidence or muh personality. It’s all about height and facial bones
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>>74117664
100% pure, unfiltered, organic, grade-A, extremely potent COPE in this here post
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>>74117690
>It's in le head bro
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>>74116003
Start mewing.
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>>74115684
>>74115703
>>74115717
>>74117076
>>74117788
You are the reason board quality is so low
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>>74115570
Yes. Like the other anons have said being lean will make you look better and get you more female attention.
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>>74116822
I'm about the same (start, current, goal), keep it up.

>>74117543
gmi
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>>74115679
but... hes right? This is actuallly relevant and on topic and good advice to people.
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>>74117076
NTA but done
Stop repeating cringe Incel lite content and make original shit.
“Hurrr will getting lean make me more attractive?” Like yes retard will driving to work get me quicker than walking?
You don’t need to be spoon fed content like a retard
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>>74117606
>Went from women literally avoiding eye contact
>To woman giving me wide grin smiles as I walk past.
no matter how lean I am, all people avoid eye contact.
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>>74118607
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>>74118733
no
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>>74118594
Its still spam
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>>74119075
okay but cant you focus on your efforts on porn spam, and other kind of shit that is 100% not fit related?
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>>74115570
Yeah I’m contemplating going on a highly restrict low cal keto diet rn
I have a good amount of muscle already also wouldn’t mind losing a little either anyway
I have good bone structure and want it to shine
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>>74116003
Reroll
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>>74119075
So are BBC threads and demoralization bait threads but at least leanmaxxing threads are good and motivating to stay in shape
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Lmao I thought the fat pic of Tom Cruise was Norm Macdonald
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>>74117808
I call bullshit. I'm 6'3, 190, and decently built. I don't get that kind of attention. If I approach women, its pretty damn easy especially if they are fairly average looking. But I don't like chasing women. But women chasing you? It'll just never happen, unless you count 40+ cougars. In which case, sure. It's just a pipe dream. Any woman worth going for is too used to having hundreds of DMs and multiple men approaching them in person daily to risk actually making a move.

Then again, I do have shit ab genetics. 12% bf consistently, and don't really have the slightest hint abs without flexing. That's another pipe dream. Any lower bf% and I'm constantly depressed, no sex drive, etc. Not worth.
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>>74117664
>I was around 20% bodyfat and people were telling me I look super lean
American moment
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>>74119179
I would kill to see a Norm biopic starring Tom
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>>74115570
I realized leanpill is very real. In high school I found out later like 5+ girls had crushes on me but I was too autistic and unapproachable. My freshmen year of college I got laid only because of girls literally throwing themselves at me, but then I got fat and it stopped happening and I didnt realize why at the time. I resorted to banging ultra fatties on tinder (like 250-300lb women) because I was desperate for sex and never developed game thanks to girls throwing themselves at me.

Years later I graduate college and after working for a couple years I start losing weight and lifting mainlybfor health reasons (office job was killing my back). Now everytime I go out in a social context I get hit on or flirted with. Its even happened in non social contexts like the grocery store a few times. This made everything click. Being lean does something to women's brains on a primal level.

Sorry for the blog but I think its important for anons to read this. Imo factors of attractiveness for men (that you can actually control) are

#1 Leanness
#2 grooming/hygiene
#3 muscle mass (too much is bad but that will literally never happen to a natty)
#4 fashion
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I had a warehouse job about 2 years back and was deep in my "eat big to get big" mentality. Which helped when I was DYEL, but after lifting for 5 years and being truly out of my newbie gains stage I was just getting fat.

Anyways, after working at this warehouse for only 4 months I had lost a substantial amount of weight
>In my head I was thinking "oh no, I'm losing all my gains" even though my strength kept going up
And one girl passed by me and said "I like your hair". I thought she was weird cus it was literally the same hair style I had when I started. But then I also noticed the other women were being really friendly and laughing at my shitty sperg jokes that only my other sperg friends thought was funny.

After I left that job, started "eating big to get big" again and the attention I got started to disappear.
>The irony is there was a dude who I worked with who I thought was giga chad. When he showed me a picture of him when he started 25lbs heavier, he just looked like an overweight normie

Only recently did I truly realise it was all because of the lean pill
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Be real with me.. is getting lean basically just starving yourself?
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>>74120542
I have to constantly force feed and have nothing else but food and eating on my mind just to maintain my weight. I drop almost 2kg per week if I stop force feeding.
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>>74115570
Think about it from an evolutionary perspective. In the wild, it's infeasible that men would be bulky or have any large physique like a bodybuilder would have. Women are naturally attracted to lean men, so there actually is a point you can reach in bodybuilding where you're no longer naturally aesthetic and instead are only appealing to women's fetishes, likely informed by the same mass media that made you think you have to be a hunk to get girls.
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>>74120588
>I have to constantly force feed and have nothing else but food and eating on my mind just to maintain my weight. I drop almost 2kg per week if I stop force feeding.
Post body because you either have a manual labor job which makes you feel like needing 5k calories a day or you are not actually eating a lot
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>>74117690
Gaslighting faggot
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>>74115669
Tiktok needs to be banned.
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>>74120628
I don't know man, I'm pretty sure neandearthals and shit were pretty fucking huge
you are correct about women liking lean men
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>>74120542
It's a controlled starvation. You're not eating nothing, losing your muscle and fat, your bones becoming brittle and your skin becoming sickly and pale from lack of nutrition.

Getting lean is a very special kind of starvation. It's called... "A calorie deficit". Crazy right...? It's where you still workout and eat high protein and make gains. But your body has to substitute some of your fat stores to make up for the small caloric deficit you put yourself in from not eating the 500 or so calories of carbs and fats that you were on a bulk
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>>74117690
What kind of cope is this? Women don't like fat men. They like lean men. It's not in your imagination.
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>>74119395
Women definitely approach. Skill issue. I've had women scream "you're so fucking cute" out of their car window at me and all giggle and stare when I'm on my motorcycle. And I'm only 170. Do with this what you will, anons.
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>>74121027
I had women literally break down doors to have sex with me, actually it's a daily challenge to put enough distance between them and me to get enough sleep.
If you don't have this its a skill issue. Blackpillers BTFO
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>>74120542
In my opinion yes, some other anon said controlled starvation which I completely agree
I'm on the side of the population that gain weight by looking at food , i'm able to cut only if I go monk mode and just stay home, work out and have no big meal, no restaurant, no bbq, no celebration, no dinner at parents, nothing. I only cut for my holidays
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>>74115669
Shit, good for her. I want to know her flab management though
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get lean, get /fit/, get more attention. go ahead, see how vapid these types of people are. that’s the real blackpill. these brown virgin weirdos who’ve never left their moms house don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about. there’s nothing more crushing when some dolled up slut sees you as a piece of meat (still expects you to pull some kind of Don Draper flirting routine, of course) but wouldn’t have given you the light of day if you were even 5kg fatter.
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>>74121042
This exact thing happened to a chad friend of mine. We used to be chubby nerds in school. He started his gym journey about 3 years before me
>Friend back from uni for the weekend so we decide to hangout
>Was saying he was scared to go back to uni
>Asked him the fuck why?
>Was saying that a girl in his dorm had invited him out on several occasions
>He chilled with her and shit but did nothing sexual together
>The Friday just before she asked him if he wanted to be her boyfriend
>He said that he didn't want to and just saw her as a friend
>She supposedly flipped out and accused him of leading her on the whole time
>He told her that he thought they were just hanging out "as friends"
>Supposedly she got madder and he didn't know how to handle the situation so he just did a 180 and walked to his dorm room and shut the door
He used to be pretty spergy so I can imagine him just shutting down like this
>She followed him to his dorm and started banging on the door and kicking it screaming about how he just led her on.
>The other people in the dorm came out when they heard the noise and pulled her off the door.
When he told this to me I thought he was just making up a tall story. I knew he was pretty handsome and muscular since he lost all the weight, but I didn't think that much.
>He was still just that chubby nerd he'd always been in my eyes
It wasn't until we got back to his house did I walk into his Jewish dad screaming on the phone "IS THAT ANYWAY FOR A PERSON TO BEHAVE!?? HOW DO YOU EVEN RAISE YOUR DAUGHTER TO BE LIKE THAT!?!".
Then I knew what he said was actually real.
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>>74121275
fuckin legend
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>>74121275
>jewish dad mad about degeneracy
>jewish chad
This whole story is just a load of IDF bullshit.
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>>74121250
lmao terminally online
>you mean appealing to what people like makes people like you?! WORLD IS SO CRUEL
touch grass
but actually
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>>74115633
Nothing funnier than a projecting crab.
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>>74121250
Better to be seen as a piece of meat instead of a wallet/emotional dumping ground
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>>74115669
Two different persons
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>>74115669
holy shit
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>>74115669
Being fat should be illegal.
Imagine the number of pretty women ruined by lard. Probably in the millions.
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>>74115669
Fuck
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>>74115588
And rarer. A lot of strong fat yanks on test walking around these days, thinking their baseball cap, sunglasses, red skin fatceps make them badass. Whereas all models and actors and attractive men are lean.
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>>74121387
that’s what you got from my post? you’re a fucking retard
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>>74115570
getting lean increases your face score by 2 points minimum, regardless of anything else. some guys can go up 5 points.
no fat fuck was ever considered to be "sex symbol" or cutie or whatever term normies come up with
the leaner I got, the more looks I got, miring looks. don't care that much about this anymore, but if you want to catch their attention, lose the fat
connect the dots
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>>74121485
figuratively - yes
literally - no
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>>74121539
She cute
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>>74122216
Not that anon but yeah you are bitching because people find attractive traits... attractive! Who could have thought?
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>>74117690
kek, I'm using this as pasta
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>>74115570
>Bale
just fat in one pic and normal in the left, he's not even that lean there. His looks are just due to natural facial structure
>Cruise
his face is bloated due to surgery, has nothing to do with bf% at all
>DiCaprio
same as Bale
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>>74115570
For me, becoming lean is less about external validation (though that is a nice perk, as I'm still human), but more about bringing out my "true self". Removing the chaff, the excess. I'm kinda obsessed with order, so I want my body to be rightly ordered. I get more pleasure out of posing in the dark while listening to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilLybVi0LpA than I get from mires.
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>>74122621
Based leanchad
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>>74119395
>12% bf consistently, and don't really have the slightest hint abs without flexing.
you're not 12% dumbass nigger
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>>74118604
stop stealing pics and take your own faggot
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Im a 173cm malet and I refuse to take the lean pill. To be 12% body fat means 12kg of fat for 100kg weight. Thats impossible without steroids which I also refuse to take.
So the only option for me would be to be super light weight. Fuck that, only one thing more pathetic than a manlet and thats a skinny manlet. I didnt choose my height but I will choose my weight.
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>>74125209
100kg would be seriously overweight at 173cm. assuming you have natty limit muscles you should still never weigh over 90.
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I've done leanpill + glowing skin before , it is literally like being an angel on earth, family members actually started saying "I love you" and shit, people part their paths for you and customer service employees pull you aside for the VIP first

It made me realize how pathetic people are/our species is. I ebb and flow because I wanted to understand how tight of a window can this transformation happen in.

With a few diet mods and upping the exercise and hydration + skin care , I've gotten it down to about 5 days. I pull it out whenever I know lots of photos are gonna be taken.
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>>74125306
>glowing skin before
Can you elaborate on this one?
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>>74125335
Just healthy looking skin , eating the right snacks, no massive glucose spikes , lots and lots of water and dry tasting food desu

Generally speaking , its skin with a warm appearance and sometimes have a shine in the right lighting
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>>74115570
Life started at 25+ bmi for me. I've never felt so strong even though I'm just fat.
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>>74115669
The good side of tiktok
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>barret just 14lbs heavier years ago
Literally descends him from chad to skinnyfat bogan teir
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>>74116678
>Just watch ANY survivor show where the contestants lose a lot of weight. Both the men and women always look better by the end of the show
wocao she became jade faced beauty after losing weight!
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>>74117004
I think he planned on cutting but just forgot or something



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