What's the most powerful shit I can take that won't harm my gains? I just need to reduce sleep interruptions and increase how long I sleep. I regularly make gains, but I literally average less than 6 hours of sleep every 24 hours. I typically sleep 5 to 6 hours each night. I get lucky when I sleep for 7 to 8. The issue is falling back asleep, but if there is any powerful (as in more than just a supplement) shit that isn't a benzo or ambien (kills strength), please let me know. I could try cannabis edibles in the future, but they typically make me feel like absolute shit and constantly play music in my head.
The thing that would save me would be something that delays the onset of sleep interruptions. For most people (and for me, too), the first sleep interruption occurs after 5 hours, but, and especially when I'm stressed, I can get sleep interruptions after just an hour or two of sleep. It's crazy. If you're really stressed out before falling asleep, you're more likely to wake up after less sleep.
>>74120971well you can try benzos. or maybe melatonin. or maybe a blunt before sleep. Or do 101 pushups. or change your place. or eat more before you sleep. Or watch a nice movie. or lose your phone. or talk to your body. or yourself.
>>74120971Try to stress less about not getting enough sleep, it will keep you awake
>>74121031I avoid drinking any large amount of liquid before bed, but I typically get out of bed because I need to go take a piss. I often end up falling back asleep after a minute or two of thinking of getting out of bed, but I typically end up waking up again maybe fifteen minutes later to take a piss. Eventually, I pull myself out of bed, go and take a piss, eat a little protein bar (This does NOT affect my sleep. I eat it quickly, and I know it's going to take a while to fall back asleep. If I didn't eat the protein bar, I would be at a caloric deficit, which would be perfect for cutting.), and hop back into bed. I sometimes fall back asleep, but I often just end up getting really horny. If I can't control the horny, I typically end up masturbating after 15 to 30 minutes of trying to fall back asleep. After this, I sometimes go back to bed to try to fall back to sleep, but most of the time, I just get up. If I really wanted to, I could try to brute force my way to getting an average of 7 hours of sleep (yes, 7, not 8 or 9) by staying in bed for several hours longer just trying to fall asleep. I can get myself to fall back asleep, it's just that it typically takes an inordinate amount of time. This is why any drug (that isn't a benzo or related) that increases how long you stay asleep (reduces interruptions) would be ideal for me.
>>74121047At my best, I still only average 6 hours. Some days I'll only get 5, and others, I'll sleep 8.
>>74120971i can tell you are a young dude. 5-6 hrs. a night is ok.
>>74120971you do not want to use cannabis long term for anything other than fun. medical users get primo shit and they run into tolerance issues for pain etc. weed is great but not the miracle these faggot hippies had me believe in the 2000s. it can also be harmful, and i say that and im going to get a lil toasty tonight because work pissed me off.
>>74120971I make a cannabis tincture I drink 2 hours before sleep, nothing else works and I'm not going to no pharmashill doctor
>>74121075I will turn 24 in the middle of June. I'm so depressed. I haven't even gone to college yet, and I've been wanting to get a degree in something STEM-related, like math. I don't even have a car license yet; although I got a chance to drive a car in a parking lot for the first time around a month ago. I go to work with my Dad every now and then to help him out, but that's it.
>>74121100you can try yoga nidra. warm milk and honey/cardamom/ginger could help.avoid sexual thoughts, as they might keep you excited.melatonin is legal and force brute. but still a chem.avoid long hours on the phone.read a book. will put you right to sleep.
>>74121100valerian could also help
>>74120971I used to abuse the fuck outta ambien when I was like 19. Just take some with vodka and start chillin w the hat man.Anywho, melatonin + good bedtime habits is the goated answer
>>74121371>Just take some with vodka and start chillin w the hat man.I unexpectedly saw a sleep paralysis demon for the first time in my life a few days ago after taking ambien I got from the deep web. (I used to have it prescribed to me years ago, but my doctor took me off it, so I knew this was the real shit.) I tried taking apart and reversing the polarity on a light switch after I perceived that it was flipping the opposite way it was supposed to. (It wasn't.) Fortunately, I decided not to try it after removing the cover. I was smart enough to wear three layers of nitrile gloves underneath a pair of dewalt gloves, though. I lost so much strength after taking that for a few days, started a thread about it, and learned that ambien is infamous for reducing muscle strength.
>>74121100Tell your dad he's taking you driving and teaching you to drive so you can get your licenseThat's his fucking job, his failure
>>74121100>I've been wanting to get a degree in something STEM-relatedJust register at a CC or university for math or similar. Don't think about it, just do itAfter you're accepted you can worry about what needs to be done. It'll work out, somehow it always doesStop fucking thinking and just do
>>74120971LISS
>>74120971GHBthere is a reason it is the sleep drug of choice for bodybuilders
>>74120971MK677 made me sleep like I was a teen again. If there existed a compound that did just the sleep stuff with no hunger sides. I'd use it for the rest of my life.
don’t take goy pills
>>74121606>GHBThanks for letting me know about this. However, just like how 90s bodybuilders would take benzos, how do I know this won't kill my strength like benzos?
>>74120971The most effective , and also the worst, because how much effective they are, benzos.Alprazolam or Clonazepam to wind down, Flunitrazepam to pass out.You are also signing your death sentence.They are super addictive and withdrawals are ranked by literal junkies to being worse than heroin and cocaine. (you can check for yourself at bluelight dot org)>inb4 I took X or Y benzo for Z years and I'm fine.No, either you are still taking it and an addict, or you are fucked. Also counterfeit xanax doesnt count.
>>74120971Dont take these. My father knows a guy who drove across the country on sleep meds and killed someone
>>74123161AMBIEN (and maybe lunesta, too, but I don't know too much about it) is the drug that makes you sleepwalk and do crazy shit while doing so. I was actually thinking earlier how theoretically a school shooting could happen because of someone on ambien.
7.5mg mirtazapine Don't take it daily for more than a few weeks, it stops working
>>74123285Its any hypnotic sleep aid
>>74120971Sunlight, especially at dawn. Setting your circadian rhythm is more powerful and healthy than any pill.
i dated a girl who would habitually drink liquor and take ambien. she would like knock glasses off shelves and shit in her stupor she was a mess
>>74123762>i dated a girl who would habitually drink liquor and take ambien.Unless she's clever enough to know how to get that shit off the deep web, then she had a shit doctor. I told my doctor I would OCCASIONALLY mix ambien with alcohol (like less than once a month), and he immediately took me off that shit. What ended up happening was I gained tolerance to the ambien, so I started taking two pills instead of one. This resulted in me drinking to fall asleep for half the month until I got ambien again. I continued drinking for around a couple years. I got to the point I would get blackout drunk every night. I am so glad I quit a little over half a year ago. I am able to fall asleep without issue now. It's just staying asleep that's an issue, which shouldn't take too long to fix.
>>74121428Yeah! one time as a young lad I tried to weightlift while fucked up on ambien and I almost killed myself dropping the bar while benching. They should not be prescribing that drug to people, it is so dangerous if used incorrectly.
bump
>>74120971Workout till you physically can't function and crash for 11 hours
Follow the 3/2/1 rule. No food for 3 hours before bedNo liquids for 2 hours before bedNo screens for 1 hour before bedEnjoy your Z's my guy
>>74125170It's more difficult to fall asleep on an empty stomach.
>>74120971take a melatonin and drink a glass of milk. milk is high in tryptophan which helps you sleep. make sure your room is dark and cold and your bed is cold too
>>74125298>make sure your room is dark and cold and your bed is cold tooCold is better than hot, but too cold will give you insomnia too.
>>74125225Your stomach should not be completely empty 3 hours after eating your last meal.
>>74125225>3 hours >empty stomach?
Mirtazapine is pretty mild, but will still knock you out. Please don't mess around with benzos or ambien.You could also try trazodone. It never did anything for me, but other people like it.
benadryl
>>74120971I take zma, melatonin, and gaba and I sleep great. I also keep my house at 65 at night and wear a sleep mask
>>74123729I’ve been taking mirtazepine for about a year but 15mg. 30mg knocks me the fuck out but I feel like shit in the morning. It’s the only thing that helps and I’ve tried everything>lunesta>ambien>seroquel>trazodone>quviviq>melatonin>valerian root>gaba>phenibut
