When life gives you lemons edition>Who is /fat/ for?For Porky Piggies who are working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros) or LoseIt (great for both).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per lb of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and burn fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body burning away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gyno & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious thread: >>74116227
>weHoly redditola
The nuns and ducks are back, thread blessed
>>74123083Fuck off normalfag community nigger
Meal of the day. I also had a banana
I love nuns. christ be praised
>>74123146Looks like literal shit on a plate.
>>74123146>bananaNgl, a banana sounds pretty good right now desu.Too bad I dont have any.Banana.
ME VICIOUSLY RAPING EVERY NUNS TO ORGASM LIKE NEVER EVER THEY FELT BEFORE
>>74122991I'm fasting. At work today I've been sitting in a room near some donuts for half the day. You guys are talking about food too much. I'm still going to go another 24 hours at least. I want pizza. Shut up brain.Looks like I need to sleep again as soon as I get home. Boring.
>>74123108>”normalfag!”And you’re still fat
>>74123189Seething lmao>>74123243>says the guy posting on /fat/
>>74123258What are you pointing at
the more weight i lose the more fat I feel
>>74123293I just really like that pose. I picture myself as Bowser from Smash Bros when I do it
>>74123359On a scale of 1 to Rain Man, how autistic are you?
>>74123378I paid $100 for a custom Xbox controller that says Based/Redpilled on it/10
>>74123258I never said I wasn’t xP
>>74123414Do you live in a shed?
>>74123436Yeah
>>74123507The cuckshed aware
Going to the supermarket. God help me
I hope you guys are more active irl than you are in this thread
>>74123636I just did a 100 push-ups so there's that
MORE CICKEN NUN SHITFUUUUCK YOOOOOUSERIOUSLY STOP POSTING!
>fasting today>playing tarkov>seeing all the cans of stew, squash etc etc makes me hungrierfuark>>74123636been wrenching all day and when I came out of the shower I saw my water evacuation was pissing all the water on the ground, spent an hour mopping it up and wringing the towels I had to use
>>74123664Based Mikuchad
>>74123636Sedentary job but I walk 6-7 laps around our track and do kettlebell workouts after work, OMAD at 1300 deficit. Lost 8 lbs in 3 weeks so far
>>74123507How do you have power?
I just started lifting and feel like there is no point in continuing. I am so weak. I lift below the average of people just starting out. Is there even hope for me?
>>74123744Thats how lifting works brainlet, you start weak and get stronger. Stop giving up so easily faggot
>>74123744there's only no hope if you give up. Keep at it and you will get better
>>74123744fuck you nigger I could barely bench 40lbs when I started, was I embarrassed? yes, but it was fuel to get better.I can still barely get 1pl8 on a good day, just keep at it and you'll jump me in no time.
>>74123529Never. Go. Hungry. I was able to prevent a lot of impulse food purchases by making sure that I always went to the store after I’d already eaten the satisfying meal.
>>74123753I know, but i lift below the average of people starting out. This really fucks my mind.
>>74123769>lift below the average of people starting outWhat does that even mean? Stop caring about other people and what they do, this is you journey. Focus on YOU.
>>74123768God it's fucking ridiculous that this trick works isnt it>>74123769Okay, so? you're starting, you WILL get better if you keep at it. It's never great havign to face the fact you're weak, but stopping being weak is a choice you can and have to make yourself.
>>74123727Of course
>>74123769I did also. Derek from mpmd (he's a douchebag and roided out of his mind but at least he's an example) used to only bench the bar when he started working out. It's all relative, don't let retards here e-statting tell you they reached 2 plate bench in 3 months etc etc. Are you progressing? This is what matters
>>74123797No HOW do you have power if you live in a shed in the middle of the woods?
>>74123790>What does that even mean?You know, the minimum weight they advise men or women to start lifting with if they never done it before. There are universal guidelines, but i'm way below those with my strength.
>>74123768>>74123793I didn't have any food and I was hungry so I ended up buying an 80/20 mix of good/bad food. I'll do better next time.
>>74123146I think those are shrimp but they look like shitty intestines
>>74123819No you idiot, i know what it means but what does that mean. Who cares? Why do you care? You'll never make it obsessing on what other people can do, you arn't other people. You are you.
>>74123243Now I crave dango… Mitarashi Dango sounds so good…
>>74123804Generator, he should probably bring it inside overnight.
>>74123793>>74123826It’s such a simple but impactful tip I’m surprised it’s not on the sticky, more than once I would still get good Whole Foods but get fast food lunch because “I’m out and I’m hungry”
>>74123833Thanks for the support. I can worry too much, but i try to focus on myself. It is already some kind of achievement that i actually started lifting and cardio to change my unhealthy body.
>>74123855Eaxctly, keep going anon you'll make it. We all will.
>>74123840Bro what
>>74123804Because there is a long power line connecting it to our actual house ;)
>>74123885Rich faggot
>>74123892Fat people need more Lebensraum
>>74123901I'm sure one of those donuts alone is 1400kcals
>>74123881It’s not a whole house, it’s a shed.>>74123901Fuuuuuck you for posting that
>>74123753Not true. I've been trying to do 5x5 wide grip pull ups for like a year. After about a month I could do about 2x5. Nine months later I can do... 2x5. I'm the same weight I've been the whole time, I'm 5'8", and consume about 2k calories a day on average.You just don't get stronger unless you have the gene.
>>74123901Man I haven’t been to KK in so long
>>74123940>You just don't get stronger unless you have the geneThat literally is not true, you are just not trying
how the fuck do people go weeks without drinking alcohol? one night of binge drinking ruins my entire week
>>74123988You do this one simple thing anon, you don't buy any booze.
>>74123988i vape weed instead
>>74123994my problem is that i get invited to bars/parties and its impossible for me to say no . i never drink alone
>>74123957>you're just not tryingC'mon man. What is that even supposed to mean. I pull my weight with the best form I can muster and eventually I'm too weak to lift myself. I'm hanging there mid rep, huffing and puffing, veins engorged with blood, face red with effort, but not strong enough to complete the rep.Must be a /dbspic/ and believe in "overcoming your limits" or some shit.
>>74123988I haven’t had in alcohol, weed, or cigs in over 2 months. Done with that shitMom has been using our bathroom for less than 5 days(we have guest over and she’s letting them use her room) and she’s already Live Laugh Loved the fucking mirror. Why? They are leaving tomorrow and she just put this here now
>>74124018weak troll desu
>>74123885Based living with parents chad
>>74124036100% serious. I'm a /fat/ newfag though so if my post looked like a common shitpost around here it was inadvertent.
who else protein metaballpilled and umamimaxxing
>>74124070If pullups are too hard, do assisted ones, replace with different lat work, lose more weight(at 2k calories I assume you're trying to lose), etc
>>74123944i thought this thread was for people to lose fat and eat healthy?
how many steps have you done today walksisters?
>>74124100>aasisted/different lat workGood advice, but why doesn't it work to just do the thing you want to do? Why won't I get stronger without changing things up? Also I used to round out the sets with assisted pull ups but then I moved and my new gym doesn't have that equipment. >lose weightI am trying to lose weight and losing fat would make me able to do more pullups, but this was about getting stronger per that other anon's original post.
>>74124117>In so longPlus the only thing I’ve eaten is a handful of shrimp and a banana right before I just did my 5 mile walk around the yard lol. I hope this pizza makes you get cravings tubby
>>74124117Nope. It's a glownigger surveillance thread. They followed me here last year and never left.
>>74124120Over 9000
>>7412412010573
>>74124073wtf is this
>>74124170veggieslop
>>74124136Unless you're untrained, gaining strength and losing weight is very hard to achieve
>>74124170High Protein Beef Meatballs from tmpmrice and eggwhitepeppers and scallionsa little bit of laoganma & pickled chili and garlicsalt pepper & msgtotal 624 cal66.2 carb10.4 fat68.2 protein
It happend, /fat/brosI've got hit on for the first time in years, she forced me to take her numberIt was a fat girl but it I'll take it
>>74122991>290lbs>cut for 5 weeks hit 280lbs>eat like shit for OMAD have whole pizza>back to cutting>get to 270 after 4 weeks>eat like shit again OMAD, have shawarma and five guys for dinner>back to it>247lbs after 7 weeks>you guessed it, OMAD cheat againWhat’s the issue exactly? I thought this was wrong? Can I not continue to do this until I’m lean and then while lean just have one day a month where I do more cardio than usual and have some junk?
>>74124207a win is a win brother
>>741241207000 right now. Need to step it up
>>74124207Maybe I’m spoiled but I hate when fat girls hit on or flirt with or show any interest in me. I’ve been in the position where I’ve as kindly as one possibly could reject them>Hey don’t misunderstand me you’re super attractive to me and you seem really cool but I’m. [in a relationship/engaged/gay/about to move/etc]And had it blow up like I’m an asshole. Her and her friends will flat out call me a dick say I’m a piece of shit blah blah blah insult me to no end. Imagine if I replied with>Okay, then I want you and all 5 of your friends to suck my cock right now>wow you’re all assholesLike what? It’s uncomfortable.Also I’ve had (no longer) friends of my own act crazy about it and act as though I was nuts for not wanting to be with a fat slob bitch who was desperately trying to get with me. It pissed me off. Like I’m viewed as ugly and on level with a 2/10 fat bitch. I’ve pulled 8/10s while obese. When I’m lean it’s retarded how easy I get laid with hot bitches. So I just hate it. I also hate fat bitches in general though because a woman’s only purpose is to look good and fat bitches still demand all the pretty privilege benefits (often successfully get them these days) while not being attractive. I hate fat men too, myself included, but a fat man can still provide other things. Like, a fat man will also usually change that about himself too while fat bitches do not.
>>74124211why not? that's what the average skinnyfag does, they aren't eating asparagus and chicken breast every meal.personally I wouldn't get into cheat days until after I'm done losing the weight and go into maintenance, but if its working for you, then more power to you man.
>>74124243"cheating" day is more about mental sustainability for me desuon cheat days ill eat maintenance calories for goal weight (2k) while the other 6 days ill have 1200 calories or lessthis makes my whole journey easier knowing I have "checkpoints" every week where I can chill for 1 day compared to trying to force myself to stick to def every single day with no end in sightthe best diet anyone can follow is the one they can stick to for a long time
>>74124207I've never been with a fat girl before even when I was way fatter than now, the closest was a chubby girl with big tits as a fwb, but I'll take anything at this point, haven't gotten any in over a year.odd tangent but I've heard about a girl that was my gf in middleschool and highschool, apparently she's married with kids now, and that shit kind of hit me ever since, I think she's the only girl I ever actually cared about, shit sucks kek. is it cucked if I hope she's happy?
>>74124278>haven't gotten any in over a year.I haven't gotten any in over 32 years
>>74124243Ikwym but this >>74124269 except I don’t log calories at all because it’s overwhelming to me. I know when I’m eating less than I need, when I’m eating about what I need to maintain, when I’m eating more than I need. Some of these cheat days I know I’ve gone over maintenance like the pizza day. The five guys and shawarma was probably roughly 2500 total. I’d like to do it weekly but that would require me to actually count how much I eat so I’ll stick to about every 10lbs I can eat whatever I want since it’s working.
>>74124212thanks senpai>>74124242bro chill, it's not /fph/ here >>74124278>is it cucked if I hope she's happy?No, you're a good person, Anon. If karma is real (it's not) you'll be happy as well someday
>>74122991> "Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.Eat rice and beans only goy, that burger is bad for you. French fries will go straight to your ass if you eat them even once a week. There is no happiness, only pain and lifting!!!
>>74124269>cheat days ill eat maintenance calories for goal weight (2k) that's not even bad then desu, you're still in a deficit, it'll slow you down but as long as you stick to it you'll get there eventually, I'm just sick of being in a deficit and my GW is right around the corner, just 10lbs away.I want to eat maintenance, I want to finally get some proper progress on my lifts, I'm having fun in the gym but thinking of the potential I'd get to unlock when I up my calories just makes me want to get there ASAP, so no cheatdays.
Talking about cheat days, mine is coming up soon and I'm still debating what I should get. Would like to pig out with burger king or chinese buffet (5k kcal at least) but man, that's going to ruin too much. Thinking about Döner or a large Pizza, we'll see
>>74124297I’m not meaning to hate like that. I got carried away because haven’t eaten yet today. What I meant to write is that demotivates me. But more power to you, keep going it’ll be hotter women
>>74124306All good bro>I got carried away because haven’t eaten yet todaykek you're excused
>>74124301I’m the every 10lbs guy and the other purpose I think this serves is to bust plateaus. I noticed my weight will stop moving so I had the pizza, gained like 5lbs of water obviously, then 4 days later I was down 7lbs from that and started losing again. I would suggest you try maintenance for a day if you’re stuck, but keep it healthy to test this.
>>74124315maybe on the next death plateau, I've had one this month for what felt like 2 weeks, powered through it then poof right back on track with the ~8lbs lost a month.
>>74124282you can't be that ugly, eventually you'd fall assbackwards into some pussy, unless you're a total shut-in that is.
>>74123636I only do 20 minute workouts
>>74122991hello, /fat/. for the last four months, i stuck to my diet and daily walks. i have lost around 30 lbs total.i'm now starting to add weight training, but i'm having a hard time with some exercises. i can't do a back squat without feeling like i'm going to fall over and i don't understand how to do deadlifts properly either. for now i'm just sticking to machines and dumbbells.my question: are there any good dumbbell-only alternatives that can completely replace squats and deadlifts? maybe split squats and dumbbell RDLs?
>>74124341>unless you're a total shut-infuckextrovert privilege is actually meeting people
>230>up and down 10lbs for the last year.The road to below 200 is harsh..
>>74124341I'm turning 28 this year and I'm in the same boat as he is.I'm no shut in either, I go out and am invited out with friends often, people like having me around, I've been told I'm a good friend, I just think I'm terminally ugly.
>>74124372this honestly>work from home>only leave my apartment to go to the gym or do a grocery run and don't talk to anyone there for obvious reasons>go to the beach once a week to chill by myself but i cant talk to anyone that way eitherhow the fuck am i supposed to actually get practice talking to people? only time i talk to other people is when i call my parents a couple times a week and when i'm playing helldivers 2
>It’s easier to say no to everything, then try and only work in moderation and risk going into a binge.Thats true. I miss alcohol. Whenever i get a craving ill take a shot of kombucha or some other rank fermented trash.
>>74123146Did someone take a dump on your plate?
>>74124411umm actually, chud, its called indian food and.. yes
>>74124411Never heard of grilled shrimp?
>>74124372>>74124393>>74124398I’m 28 and I get spergy with women, I keep to myself and am usually pretty quiet, these days I only leave the house to fish or drive for doordash both are things I only do alone. Ages 18-23 I was in college and desperately wanted a typical college experience to make up for what I missed out on in highschool but I was at community college. Managed to form a circle despite me being like this, and because of that I was able to stumble into pussy a few times. Even fucked one of the women I met years later at age 26. I’ve had others who I met back then hmu and want to fuck.Now I’m in the same boat. But I know what the answer is. Socialize. But that’s like telling a depressed person to just be happy.I meet plenty of people while fishing who always want to hang with me. I know through them I could network and meet others if I wasn’t so socially avoidant and anxious, get a whole new roster so to speak.I have some friends I reconnected with for gaming recently and have been added to their other friends discord and there’s some girls in it. But they sound highly autistic. One is cool but ugly cute and in a relationship. But if I could just get my old confidence back I could hang with these people, network, and viola have a couple circles again with some women I’d possibly inevitably end up dating or hooking up with.I guess my advice: find something you enjoy doing that isn’t indoors, do it just because it makes you happy so even a bad day doing it is better than a normal day at the office. Eventually you should meet friends, and via those friends other friends, and eventually women.
>>74124449that's the thing, I do have friends that I see often, and I do meet women. I'm just plain unnattractive.I've been friendzoned, brotherzoned even, been told I'm fun and a great help and people feel good being around me. I just dont attract women at all for some God forsaken reason.I dont even care about sleeping around, it's not something I want, but I can't get shit. I would at least know why if I was an asocial shut in who didnt have irl friends.
>>74123769You really shouldnt listen to estats people lie like crazy and the averages are probably way lower than strengthstandards says. I've been lifting for a year and I can count on one hand the amount of people I've seen repping over 2 plates on bench, but everyone on here acts like 2 plates is some baby dyel lift. You also dont know how many of these people are on PEDs and just looking at someone isnt a way to tell - most dudes on roids do not have insane physiques because it turns out even with roids being able to actually consistently train with intensity is really hard and most people can't or won't do it.So basically just focus on yourself, focus on how much more you lifted this month than last month as opposed to how much some other dude is lifting. Lifting at all already puts you above 70-80% of men who dont exercise. Comparing yourself to top outliers is a great way to feel like shit all the time.
>>74124504I noticed it comes and goes for me and I wish I had a better answer man. I’ll have a few years with your experience, then when I’ve forgotten and stopped thinking about pussy and women suddenly I start stumbling my way into sex and being hit on and flirted with. Then because of that sex is on my mind again and it goes away again. It’s like I live just to enjoy myself and don’t even think about sex just see women the same as men don’t even notice attractive ones more than I would a dude and boom sex happens when I least expect it. I don’t get it dude. Every time I have actually tried to get laid or pursue a woman it’s exactly how you described. I only get them when I’m indifferent/oblivious to the idea of sex
>>74123885ever thought of installing solar?
>>74124532I get what you mean but I dont even think about sex either since I'm wholly disinterested in casual sex anyways.I thought about it over and over and the only thing I can really be sure of is that I'm not attractive and maybe I'm not "assertive" with women enough, but I hate being pushy.This shit ends up eating at you something fierce honestly.
>>74124542Not really honestly
>>74124568I’m not attractive either man. At this point though I genuinely think these women mistake the ‘tism for mysteriousness and don’t realize I’m just socially anxious and don’t have a lot to talk about or much going on. I remember when I lost my virginity the girl didn’t believe me and her friends questioned me a week later also not believing me. I wish I understood it. Maybe I’m just being used and preyed on and in the right place right time. I’ve never had a good relationship for what it’s worth, just two BPD girls (their ideal prey is a shy inexperienced guy).
>>74124607>I’m not attractive either manyou've gotten pussy from multiple women, so even if you dont see it, you're objectively at least a little bit attractive. Nothing happens if you dont have that initial bit of attractiveness unlocking the door, which is a fact a lot of dudes overlook cause either a) they're attractive enough that it becomes ez mode or b) it hurts their ego because somehow saying they can get women because they look good and not because they're the second coming of Don Juan is bad.I also think it doesnt help that now "low value" people are put on a pedestal and being "too nice" is unironically something I've been told makes me unattractive.
How important is the body fat percentage thing?I don’t got a measuring tape.
>>74124670Its important to have a low bodyfat% for health and aesthetics but measuring it is impossible to do conciselyJust look in the mirror
>>74124344somebody PLEASE respond
>>74124689Is there anyone in the gym that you could ask for advice? go to some big guy and ask him if he could help, he aint gonna bite you
>>74124689>>74124344There aren't. I tried. Squat especially nothing can replace.Also how fat are you because deadlifts and squats can be very difficult if not impossible to do with proper form if youre obese. You might have to start with easier lifts.
>>74122991Fatty ContestSwissCheese76.2kgI started smoking again bros. Give me some motivation to go back to the gym and kick it.
>>74124679Wasn’t sure how much it effects what you have to do, or if you can just go off height and weight.
>>74124720why did you quit the gym...
>>74124696i'm scared>>74124712i'm still pretty obese, i am about 38% bf
>>74124727I've been busy and stressed at work. Also demotivated as weather has been shit. I just need this thread to insult me and I will get back to it and drop the smoking.
>>74124689If you are falling over during squats it either means you lack the ankle or hip mobility to perform the movement. So I'd work on that for now. You can perform the movement with heel support to skip that but you should really be able to back squat raw without supports.There's no db movement that can ""'completely""" replace a barbell squat, but leg press, hack squat, Bulgarian split squats or even a goblet squat is probably the best alternative.Look up Alan Thrall deadlift to get the form for deadlift down. You shouldn't really be doing conventional deadlifts anyway if your goal is hypertrophy, RDLs are superior. A dB RDL is an probably the best replacement for a barbell RDL.The dumbbells have to be heavy enough obviously.
>>74124760Lunges are a good alternative too
>>74124648Man shits just fucked up. 70 years ago just being not obese and having a job paying enough to own a house and support a family was all it took to get a virgin wife who at minimum was a 5/10 for any man, and they acted right too.. Now shits just fucked upI know what you mean and there’s a disconnect here but trust me when I say this, I was happier as a virgin at 21. I was less lonely. And I’m not the only person I’ve heard say this.
I'm making it.
>>74124203that's really good actually, thanks anon
Mmmm pork
>>74122991Fatty ContestMuza332.4lb185cm
Day 87 of water fast Lost 71lbs / 32.2kg, SW 116.6kgThe ride never ends
>Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per lb of goal lean body mass.What does "goal of lean body mass" mean?
>>74125212eat for the weight you want, rather than the weight you have
>>74125212It means what angle in degrees you aspire toAKA if you want 30° then eat 30*0.72
>>74125217So if I want to weigh 110 lbs I should eat 79 grams of protein? etc. Instead of the amount for my current weight?
>>74125212Take your "ideal" BMI (usually between Underweight and Normal), and use that weight in your protein calculation. So for 120 pounds it would be 120 * 0.72g = 86.4g of protein.
>>74125270Geez my goal weight isn’t even in the healthy range
>>74124730Yeah dont do squats yet. I fucked up my knee doing squats when I was much lighter than you. Keep in mind youre doing your entire bodyweight on top of the weight on the barbell. Plus you have your stomach pulling down on your core it is pretty impossible to stabilize when youre that fat.Honestly when youre that big you should focus on machines for legs to prevent injury, when you get lighter you can start doing lifts that require strict form like squats.
My fellow fatfucks, what is your end goal? Do you want to get muscular, lean, twink/femboy?
>>74122991STOP NUNPOSTING I MEAN FRNOBODY LIKES ITJUST STOP FOR FUCKS SAKEYOU N-WORD
>>74124344For legs you can stick to BW shit until you lose some chub. There's endless variations besides good ol' squats: >lunges for glutes>horse stance isos for adductors >sissy squats for quads>pajeet squats for... uh... no, forget these Having been fat means you will never get rail-thin chicken legs even if go full Auschwitzmode. Calves you don't need to work AT ALL. Ever. Now there's no direct replacement for diddies so you will have to do a bunch of stuff. Some examples: >chest-supported T-bar/dumbbell rows to hit your spinal erectors>hanging leg raises/knee tucks (use a captain's chair if your grip is toasted) to work your lower back>bulgarian split squats for glutes
How many calories should I cut for my weight cut? I'm 170 and 5'8, workout 4 times a week with no cardio throughout the week. Calorie calculators say I should be eating at 2300, but I feel that's too high. Thoughts?
>>74125411Super omega based
>>74125399I wanted to just be lean but now I just want to be strong with a reasonable bodyfat %. Pretty sure I'd have a bit of loose belly skin even if I got super lean. Fuck surgery, so that leaves having a bit of fat on me and I might as well be strong and fat instead of just a little fat.
>>74125399Just trying to look as good as possible. I would be happy if I got a defined stomach and near pro athlete level body fat. But if the best I can reach is mogging the average human, I’m okay with that too. I’m just gonna keep polishing this body of mine basically indefinitely.
>>74125433It depends on how much you want to lose and when you want to accomplish it by. The OP sticky says you need to take your sedentary TDEE and not your actual activity level TDEE
>>74125399Trying to achieve the twink/femboy build. Im not a faggot, I just like being skinny and young-looking
Any of you guys try papa bowls from papa johns? any good for losing weight?
>>74125433I assume you are 20-25 years old. You actually need 2,300-2,600 calories a day. If you want fast weight loss, I suggest 1,500-1,900 calories a day. Plenty of protein, fiber, and volume foods. Dont forget to exercise.
>>74125559I would highly recommend not getting anything from fast food places, even the "healthy" option, as they're usually super calorically dense and nutrionally worthless even if they're not.
Popping at the gym.
>>74125411I like it :(
>>74125559It depends on what bowl. Lets say you get the garden veggie papa bowl. One bowl (390g) is 380 calories by itself, with 11g of saturated fat, 1610mg of sodium, 55mg of cholesterol, 6g of fiber, and 22g of protein. Is the calorie to protein ratio good? Yes, very much. Is the amount of sodium and cholesterol worth it though? Not really. That being said, if you're craving it, go ahead and buy it. Just make sure it fits into your macros. If you just want it for weight loss, I suggest you make your own at home. $8 is quite steep.
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>>74124398Force yourself into social situations all the time and the tism will slowly but surely erode away. Always take the path of 'highest resistance'. Think of words like 'steps'. Never go a day without uttering your mouth. Can make a call rather than send an e-mail? Do a jägerbomb and make the fucking call.Progressive overload is a thing. Vidya spaces are filled with turbospergs that make you feel like Jay Leno in comparison, so there's very little gainz to be had. Still, 30 minutes of VOIP with the virgin brigade beats not opening your mouth at all. But really if you're playing coop with /v/tards it's closer to "I got up today so I won't get bed sores" than to a real workout. >groceriesAsk the cashier at publix if X product is on sale or gluten-free or whatever. Specialty stores where you can chit-chat the employees at length are even better. >beachTake surfing lessons. As an example: I had to pick up a new pair of sneakers today from a courier service and I asked them for a quote on a hypothetical delivery. Went on a tangent about the contents and weight of the package. They had a blackout going on and in hindsight I could have asked them about that for even more social gainz.
>>74124670In terms of calculating TDEE? Not terribly important, specially when you're a big boy. On paper there should be (fat is barely metabolically active compared to lean tissue) but it turns out our bodies don't want to be fat so losing fat when you're an omega beast is ridiculously easy. BF% is probably more relevant when you're skinnyfat and sedentary.
>>74125616kek
>>74123988I got a cold that lasted a couple weeks and just stopped, it’s really not that hard unless you’re an alcoholic When I was drinking, I’d just pour a small amount of sake into some diet coke or Baja blast
>>74123834Poor anon
Fatty ContestGuts97.2kgI think I missed last weeks weight in so not sure if up or down but haven't really been strict at all of late. Goal weight still feels a life time away.
>>74125616WTF is this shit? Looks like a 16 year old kids room
>>74124203I need to try having more protein meals. I always just cut my protein up so I have around 30g in a meal. Probably no reason not to eat 50-60g in a sitting.
Hope you all are enjoying your week so far.
a day of failure
What's the best cheap exercise bike I can get that works as well as a Peleton but isn't a fucking Peleton?I don't need some fancy computer attached to it that gives me classes and other useless shit making it a 2k bike, I just want to push myself to my limit to get back into wrestling shape and shed some of my winter fat from bulking.Any of these good?
>>74124211If the weight is going down and what your doing is sustainable I dont see the problem. You'll find you get away with less as you get closer to your goal weight, but you just make the adjustments and keep going. I pretty much just do mini cuts now where Ill cut cals down pretty low for a like a week, drop a few lbs then eat more normal for a week or two while maintaining most of what I lost. Been losing weight now for almost 2years so short cuts are nothing and very sustainable for me.
>>74126061get the one with the skid marks
>>74124282Its been a few years for me, but the funny thing is, I havent been with anyone since I lost over 100lbs. Im fitter, better looking and have more stamina than Ive had in years, but women and sex havent been in the picture since I started the weight loss. I was almost tempted to hit up an old FWB to see if she wanted to test ride the new me, but havent pulled that trigger yet.
there was no picture
whats everyones opinion on these? i have been eating the kirkland protein bars for awhile now so im getting kind of sick of them. these look good and are less calories to
I know it’s just a couple of lbs of fluctuation but I’m tired of my weight dancing between the same few lbs and not going down.
>>74126140Looks delicious desu, I’d try one for sure
>>74126076the what now
>>74126088>I was almost tempted to hit up an old FWB to see if she wanted to test ride the new me, but havent pulled that trigger yet.I hit up my BPD ex last weekend. Her once tight pussy is now a cavernous black hole and her mouth might as well be a wood chipper so BJs are out of the question.
>>74125913My go-to was vodka or tequila in a monster energy juice
volume eating is backfiring lmaowith each consecutive meal I'm able to fit more food inside me, 4.2kg meal this time
>>74126270Ah shit. Yer that's a worry I guess. My stomach has definitely shrunk. I tried volume eating with salads but just got myself bricked up eating a whole bag of arugula. I've since learned about insoluble/soluble fiber so maybe I could give volume eating a go again.
should I even bother assembling a rudimentary home gym for when I can't make it out to the gym? I feel like it would help me with adherence but I know I can't push the weight as heavy as I could with a barbell and squat rack etc. Getting that shit even used is not a possibility right now because I live in a 2nd story apartment, it would be a pain to get up there, it would be rude to my neighbors when I lift, and it would be a bitch when I move. A flight of dumbbells will be similarly annoying to move in/out but far more manageable. My long term goals post weight loss are bodybuilding/hypertrophy focused anyways so it seems like a decent investment?
>>74126140>seed oilsget IQ bars. Similar calories, better macros. no seed oils, and tasty without just trying to be a candy bar.
>>74126292my digestion with veggies been much better after I started both peeling all my veggies and cooking them until very soft, took too long to connect the dots that me being eternally bloated and gassy was because I was having a hard time digesting themhonestly speaking, if you're managing to shrink your stomach I think that's for the best, I guess it is cool to be able to eat kilos of food in one sitting as some sort of party trick but the moment you go from veggies and lean meats to something else is when things start to get troubling, I definitely feel like I'm starting to cross a dangerous line
>>74126318you can do calisthenics right now with no equipment and no excuses, and scale the difficulty up as you lose weight. 'hybrid calisthenics' has a good YT channel, webpage, and free app with a guided program that only plays pimsleur ads when you're resting between sets.doing calisthenics will also give you some more feedback on whether weights will be a waste of time. Progressively load your willpower.>bitch when I moveisometrics gear is very light, and cheap until you want solid numbers on how well you're doing (then it's $100 for a spring and $500 for a barbell)see how you like an iso-bow
>>74126411>something else is when things start to get troubling,NTA but this is why I stopped messing around with the whole volume eating thing.I know how much food I can pack in especially if I have expanded my stomach too much.Some foods just dont satiate me AT ALL no matter how much I eat them. AND if they are something that I like that much and almost "force" myself to eat I know I will really snap at some point.Creates a perfect environment of binging, enlarged stomach to REALLY fucking stuff in the calories.
>>74126432>AND if they are something that I like that muchIf they are something that I DONT like eating, fucking typo.
is losing muscle mass inevitable? went from 100 to 94 kg in 7 weeks, chink (xiomi) smart scale tells me my starting body fat was 31%, losing all weight in fat would make my current body fat 25%, instead it's 29%
>>74123885holy fuck you're living the good life. if only you weren't such a lard arse
>>74123744>dat picLiterally me rn
>>74126452Smart scales are bullshit. Last time mine gave me results it said I was at 8% bf. Now its giving me error, results out of range AFTER losing ~10kg more AND Im going to lose like 5-6kg more, currently probably around 15% bf.But yes, you will also lose SOME muscle, not that much especially if you lift and eat enough protein.
>>74126464 cont.Also, mine is a not chink shit one, its an expensive omron one with handles and all.
>>74126452while losing 50lbs of body weight, I lost 4lbs of muscle, lost 1lb of bone, and gained 4% of body waterkinda concerned about the bone, but the muscle lost is only 8% of the total, and seems like a good trade.
>>74126140Just eat a boiled egg and some cheese nigger. Every single one of those protein bars is:a) filled with sugarb) filled with fake sugar and tastes like shitDo yourself a favor and just eat yo eggs. If you NEED something that isn’t an egg, drink a protein shake.
>>74126509Just because of this post I think Im going to order couple of boxes of artificial sugar filled protein bars.Couple of local places sell bars that I really like, havent ordered in a while tho. Thanks for motivating me to order them.
>>74126432>Creates a perfect environment of binging, enlarged stomach to REALLY fucking stuff in the calories.yep, honestly has already happened once and it was even after a full meal, really gotta start lowering the volume from now ondoesnt even feel nice to be this full, even if there's no junk food to make me feel sick I'm just physically uncomfortable for hours
>>74124242>I've pulled 8/10s while obeseLmao the fucking delusion of this guy
>>74126522Also, Im probably going to eat the artificially sweetened protein bars with the cheapest diet soda with the shittiest artificial sweetener I can find.
>>74126538Nigger behavior, enjoy your fucked up liver, fucked up heart, lack of nutrients, lack of sex, lack of smell, sight, taste, thought, and brains.
>>74126238>drinking jewish monster and not Aryan Red Bullkys
>>74126565Yeah yeah.According to you freaks one should probably only eat rice, chicken, broccoli and eggs and nothing else. Id rather enjoy my life a bit every now and then instead of just fucking snapping when I keep eating bland shitty food every day for months on end while restricting myself.I also dont give a shit if the food I eat has seed oils in it, how scary.
>>74126581No rice. Only wild rice. Also, seed oils are bad because the seeds will grow in your stomach and you will have a little biome of plants in there.>>74126573You are a terrible human being, I drink a sugar free monster every day and am the peak of masculinity.
>>74126581>you don't want me to eat shit?>you must want me to eat rice, chicken, broccoli and eggs and nothing else!fatlogic.this is even the same post where you're sniping at an IQ bar suggestion. Matcha, coconut, chocolate chip. Yep that's "just rice", bro.But you know what you can do with rice? Put other food in it. Protein shakes are the same way. You can put in multiple supplements, multiple flavors and oils, even cottage cheese and blended fruit.Slop doesn't have "eating like an ascetic" as its only alternative.
>>74125399Twink but I'm past my 20s already..
Alright after doing some extensive research on insulin resistance I've come to the conclusion that it's not carbs that causes it per say, they just illicit the strongest response to the metabolic damage of insulin resistance. The actual cause appears to be excess fat in the cell walls. And yes, consuming high amounts of fat in your diet does seem to translate to an increase in the fatty cell problem which is in effect insulin resistance. The answer to this problem appears to be to eat low fat high carb high protein. Your typical chicken rice and broccoli dish.But this got me wondering, what does a tasty low fat high carb breakfast look like? Can't have eggs or most breakfast meats like sausage, can't even have steak unless it's super lean cuts and that's atypical for breakfast. Can't have pancakes or French toast, can't use butter, what the hell do you eat for breakfast on this diet? I wouldn't want a second portion of chicken rice and broccoli early in the morning that would be shit. Give me some suggestions /fat/heads.
Assuming both use lean ground beef as the protein, what's going to be better for nutrition and fat loss? A burrito bowl with white rice, black beans, and salsa OR pasta with tomato sauce? How does this change if it's brown rice vs whole grain pasta?Alternatively what are some ground beef meal prep recipes that don't include a carb source? I'm not a keto schizo or anything, carbs just seem like the most expendable macro when you're fat and trying to lose weight. Plenty happy with my fruits and veggies in other meals
>>74126534Jelly probably doesn’t fit into your diet
>>74126581You can make good shit with chicken. Stop being retarded to cope with the fact that you are a picky eater with no discipline. Just learn to cook brah.
>>74126749But I do anon? I cook my meals daily or meal prep a weeks worth at the end of the week if I feel like it.I never understood people who cant cook anyways, its so fucking simple.I will also eat my protein bars that are artificially sweetened.
gonna make lmnt juice and cut out slop flavor packets
>>74125399I had visible abs when I was 11. Looking to see them again.
>>741267024 ingredient sourdoughporridgefruit/syrup/jamsfat free yogurtroasted japanese sweet potatoesyou could also just skip breakfast lol
>>74126754Fair enough man. Adding some high protein slop into the diet some days isn't a /fit/ sin to me. I hadn't read the previous replies.
>>74126603>You are a terrible human beingthat's true, but at least i don't drink jewslop
I started up a physically demanding job about six months ago. My girlfriend keeps telling me that I am losing weight "too fast". All of my old clothing that used to be tight on me is now loose. Is she right? Is it bad for my health to lose weight like this? I walk around five miles a day and lift heavy things a lot. My "cheat days" consist of going to a cheap all you can eat buffet and seeing how many chicken skewers I can eat. My record is 21. When I started this job I wanted to die but now I do pretty much constant physical work while wearing heavy gear and I don't want to die afterwards. Is this healthy or is my heart going to explode?
>>74126796>/fit/ sinNo such things IMO.If you are losing weight and everything is going sustainably then go ahead and do what works for YOU.A big part of weight loss and fitness in general is finding what works for you, cant force behaviors or foods etc. for too long or you will snap and you might quit losing weight or stop your fitness journey completely and go back to your bad habits.
Yesterday I weighed 90,7kg. Today up a little again 91,4kg. So close bros so close to sub-90. Started at 97 last November.
>>74126819No, if its working for you and you can do it sustainably then go ahead and continue doing it.If you start feeling weak or shitty or you stop losing weight when you want to lose more or something like that then and ONLY then reassess the situation.
Just want a flat tummy again...
>>74126844YWNBAW
Why does losing weight have to take so long? Why can't I just lose 100lbs in a week and be done with it.
>>74126876Kind of makes me doomer-pilled
>>74126876You didn’t gain 100lbs in a week ;p
>>74126719Bump
>>74126910How can anyone answer your schizo question, we don't know the portion sizes or anything retard.
>>74126923I may be schizo but you're autistic if you need to know exact measurements for two meals that are quite literally "animal protein plus carb" in very comparable arrangements (the protein is served in a sauce over the carb in case that isn't clear)
>>74126719Burrito bowl sounds better for fiber intake. Fat loss is about cico but you’re not a machine, fiber and protein fill you up, which psychologically is very useful on a caloric deficit. Ground beef and broccoli asian style is decent, or beef meatballs with roast veggies. Could probably make a cheeseburger omelette with beef, low fat cheese and whatever fixings you like. Cheeseburger salad is a thing- again the burger, cheese and fixings but a light dressing and just eaten with lettuce instead of bread. Carbs are indeed the most expendable and wasteful intake on a deficit.
>>74126876You didn't gain 100 lbs in a week, you did it in months. It will take months for you to lose 100 lbs. Don't give up, I believe in you anon.
>>74126943This is good stuff. Thank you
my stomach is looking noticably slimmer :D
What's the fastest I could feasibly go from 195 to 130 pounds without destroying my body or causing terrible loose skin?
>>74127081Three years with lifestyle changes. Or you could crash diet in less than a year, balloon back, then yoyo repeat that for eternity.
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>>74127105What happened?
How do I avoid having saggy man tits after losing 150lbs?
love it when the body suddenly decides "hey you know what? I don't need that water anymore" and the last 3 weeks of weight loss stall are suddenly made up for
>>74127271My tits are looking like deflated ballsacks now that I have lost around that much. Dunno if theres anything else other than getting the excess skin cut and trying to train my tits to as big as I can get them to fill the excess skin as much as possible.
>>74127288Yeah I know its doomed. My basic plan is to start hitting the gym once I hit around 250lbs and basically just work on my chest so hopefully it fills out the skin somewhat
ended a 5-day fastI feel so slow and lazy and tired now. from the eating, not the fasting.
>>74126972it's way faster to gain weight though, as you can only go to about ~3000kcal deficit with complete fasting and even then that's not really maintainable for long periods.but you can easily eat in excess of 5000kcal or more daily
>>74127307Id rather be lean with excess skin than be a fat fuck ever again. Everything you do becomes so much easier, you dont overheat so much etc. etc.Just keep on going and do the best with what you got. I MIGHT be able to afford some sort of tummy tuck/skin removal surgery at some point in the future but before that it is what it is. I just wish I didnt have as much skin around my stomach as I do, its worse than my deflated ballsac tits.
>>74127312It's from the fasting
>>74127327I felt fine all the time I was fasting
>>74126270is this hideo azuma
>>74127338That's just your delusional fasting brain tricking you
>>74127312>I feel so slow and lazy and tired now.I like this feeling after a big refeed. Its nice to just laze around and watch a movie or something.
My dreams will never become reality, just let me die thin at least.
Fatty contestBlueberries208.8 lb
>>74127350yeah I figured I'd only workout tomorrow so it's fine but I meant to go for a walk
>>74122991Exactly ten days since I started my new fitness regime and I'm down almost 6kg. I know that's gonna be mostly water weight but it still feels good, I can notice a difference on my waist/chest already and my neck measurement is half an inch narrower too. Hoping to up my daily exercise once I get under 100kg, gonna start doing HIIT alongside the hour I'm on the bike and very basic dumbbell training I'm doing. Don't think it's possible to build much muscle when I'm on an heavy weight loss diet (1000 cal daily) but hoping to at least preserve what I have reasonably well and speed up my metabolism along the way.
>>74124401what's that from?
>>74127397>Don't think it's possible to build much muscle when I'm on an heavy weight loss diet (1000 cal daily)I clearly didnt build almost any muscle when I had a really deep deficit going on, when I upped my calories by 500 a day my weight loss stalled completely but my lifts kept going up. Really annoying.
>>74126411>peeling all my veggiesThis is where im at currently also. Started with pulling the skin off my potatoes and also peeling anything else that might cause me issues.
>>74125310kek
>>74127343thats right baby
>>74125310Same. It's not very useful above 6' tall. Best to use bf%
>>74127397>Don't think it's possible to build much muscle when I'm on an heavy weight loss diet (1000 cal daily)it is, if you're not very muscular to begin with
>>74125270>"ideal" BMI (usually between Underweight and Normal)can I fuck your boy hole sissy
Nofap. Does it help with losing weight?
>>74127487If you're a terminal gooner spending an hour a day fapping when you could be getting in exercise and otherwise having your addiction mess with your mental wellbeing so it's harder for you to diet then yeah.But cranking one out when you feel the need isn't going to do anything to hurt your weight loss. Hell, if it helps keep you happy so you can stay committed to your plan and not let depression/anxiety/whatever throw you off then it's an aid.
>>74127487Yes, flapping literally burns calories
Today my scale showed weight below 100kg for the first time in 2 years. What a weird feeling but a pleasant one.
>>74127581Its calibrated wrong
>>74127596
Just mapped together and combined my weight reports from the last 14 years or so.I am 6'5 and I was definitely a stick at 85kg. Aiming at 95 or so, at least this last time it was way less of a mountain and gained it more slowly, so I guess thats progress.
>have obese BMI but normal waist size for my height>"This is common in people with muscular builds and those of Polynesian descent">pretty fucking sure I'm not Polynesianwtf was I actually just swole the whole time?
>>74127210I exist
>>74125399Lean.I was always a fat kid. I want to see my fucking abs for once in my goddamn life.Summer 2025 is gonna be itWAGMI
>day 3 water fast>walk for an hour yesterday>watching something so feel like why not just walk while watching it for another hour>feel incredibly nauseous and have to lay down>deal with feeling like im gonna puke and dizzy the entire rest of the dayman wtf happened i took electolytes (including salt) and drank plenty of water. still feeling a bit sick so i guess im gonna take a day off to feel better but it sucks because im already seeing pretty good losses in my weight since i started walking daily (213.4 to 210 today)
Was losing motivation today and then a very attractive woman decided to flash me a nice smile at work and now there's adrenaline in my soul. I'm getting closer to making it every day, people treating me like a human instead of a lard elemental is a step up the mountain.
>>74127828Stop fasting and eat become a CICO chad already
>>74127837>She smiledHow emotionally starved are you? Jesus man
>>74127868i dont have the time before my vacay or id probably go back to intermittent fasting since that was more than doable. especially now that im using to fasting for 5 days straight not eating for 24 hours is like whatever
>>74127890Why don't you have time? You don't need to be a specific size to go on holiday
>>74127897i just wanna look the best i can be given the limited time i have
>>74127463There are adjusted BMI calculators for height out there. They don’t differ that much. Maybe realise that your image of what is a healthy weight has been distorted by living around fat people all your life?
>>74124117No it's a thread for fat people to attentionwhore
>>74125270so if i'm 5'8" and 190lb i should be eating 136.8g protein to reach 6'2"
>>74127969???
>>74127909>Maybe realise that your image of what is a healthy weight has been distorted by living around fat people all your life?This desu.Also people vastly over estimate how much muscle they have and under estimate how much fat they have. I know I did, the more fat I lose the more I realize how little muscle I actually have.
>>74127873It was a really nice smile bro, I work retail and most people are absolute shitheads and it made a change from dealing with all the fossilised lizards who make me wish medical science would stop advancing and keeping these fuckers alive.
>>74125399don't really care about the looks, I just want to fix my fucked back
>>74127990Simp behaviour
>>74127991I know this fucking feel, I can't wait for my back and neck to stop exploding from having to carry my belly around.
>>74127909Lol, seething manlet. I'd have to lose 100% of my fat and some of my muscle in order to be in the healthy range. Go fuck yourself, mental and physical midget.
>>74127997Clack clack little crab.
>70.5kg3.5 more kgs lets go
>>74128047What is this crab shit you spam all day? A woman is gonna think you're mentally ill
>>74128059A woman will think I'm mentally ill for calling you a crab? You're not making sense brah.
>>74128082Maybe she'll smile in your general direction again so you can spend the next week jacking off over it.
>>74128106Lol why are you seething about this my crabby pal?
>>74128054Lets go anon, I believe in you
>>74128116I'm not seething, just stating facts clearly.
>>74128119thanks, I'll get a run in before bed. LETS GO!
>>74128020Fucking retard, I’m 6’5 and 103 kg. I’m been down to 80 kg when I was younger and an inch or two shorter, and I looked completely average. Stop coping and kill yourself.
>>74128157So you're just a retard. Got it.
>>74128162You can’t accept that you’re a fatty, and aiming to be a slightly slimmer fatty?
>>74128123Clearly stating headcanon more like.
>>74128168Whatever, midget. You're just proving me right.
>>74128180You’re not even the same guy, are you?
>>74127985> I know I did, the more fat I lose the more I realize how little muscle I actually have.yeah it sucks, that's why I have a GW range instead of a single number.
Any other skin monsters around? Any that have lost the weight and maintained for a while?Has your skin tightened up at all during maintenance? I know my only choice is probably to get it cut off, but one can hope.My stomach skin is finally getting quite thin but I still have around 5kg to lose I think.
>>74128249I've lost 80 lbs so far and no loose skin at all. Are you getting enough collagen?
>>74128261I have lost 70kg or so.When I eat I try to remember to take around 5-10g of collagen. Havent taken it for a long time yet tho, I did read some studies that show some results after supplementing for over 4 or 8 weeks, which I havent done yet.
>>74128249Choppy choppy time anon
>>74128261How does one obtain this magical collegan?
>>74128426The best way is to eat skin, but failing that, you can buy collagen peptides in the supplement aisle.
>>74128444I prefer the skin route as a regular snack.
18 days since I started, from 113.5 to 111.5, bought a scale last week which made stuff easier. Is this a good pace?
>>74128444How much skin we talkin' here? I fucking love chicken skin.
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>>74128478Not much, honestly. 5g of collagen a day can easily be reached with very little skin consumption. Pork rinds, for instance, can get you there with only 14g. Chicken skin is very similar. That's what's great about the skin route, it's much more efficient and you don't have to blow a ton on buying expensive supplements if your diet can easily take care of it. The exact amount for chicken skin is about the same as pork rinds.
>>74128249it seems that dry fasting helps with loose skin. Do the experiment dude.
>>74125616Most autistic thing ive seen posted on 4chan