I'm not sure why taking high doses of creatine is considered natural while taking high doses of test is considered unnatural? What's the logic behind this?
>>74137966creatine is something you get from eating food, supplementing it is just getting it in a more straightforward way. test dosing is not something that would happen to you outside of HRT.
I have this exact body type
>>74137987wouldn't I need to eat like 10 steaks a day to get that amount of creatine tho?
the same reason taking vitamin D supplements is still "natural" you actual retard.
>>74137995Want to date?
>>74137995are you single?
>>74137998you don't?
>>74137998Yeah, but you also would need to eat fish and fruits and veggies daily to get the vitamins and minerals you need to be optimal health... or you could take a multivitamin.
>>74138011Isn't it like 2.5 pounds per 5 grams? I'm taking 25 grams for my loading phase
>>74137998No. Your body literally produces creatine. You dont need to fucking supplement creatine, how fucking retarded are you? The extra you get from eating red meat is just icing on the cake. Its not good or bad, its whatever.
>>74137966The real answer is that creatine does almost nothing (or literally nothing) and taking test actually does something.
>>74138055>your body literally produces test>the extra you get from trt is icing on the cake
>>74138055So you're saying I'm taking extra creatine to increase my performance. Huh... Sound's kind of like taking test.
>>74137998not really, you get a pretty good amount of it from just eating like a quarter lb beef patty, a steak a day would probably be just as good as supplementing it but that's too expensive
>>74137998And how many coffee beans would you have to eat to get caffinated daily? Would you like to do that or drink a cup of coffee once a day? Creatine is just a supplement to enhance strength, just as caffeine enhances energy.
>>74138042Damn if Steve Reeves would have loaded 25grams of creatine he might have looked like he lifted. Damn dude too bad the Jew™ hadnt come up with their creatine supplement back then.
>>74137995U had a BBL like her ?
>>74138067>>74138070Sure if your hypothesis is that creatine gives you similar results as testosterone. I know you think you were snarky, but you werentt. You were just retarded.
>>74138072you get way more caffeine eating beans directly than drinking coffee
>>74137995No you don't, fag
>>74138077red meat contains creatine they weren't deficient in it.
>>74137995Are you just as crazy?
>>74137966I love these soft looking 20 something year old fit girlsThey look like real anime characters
>>74138035Doesn't that literally apply to test?
>>74137995>I have this exact body type
>>74138126They're about as real as anime characters too
>>74138089So the only reason creatine is considered "natty" is because it only provides a slight performance boost?There's a lop of cope in this thread.
>>74138055Except studies have shown numerous times the positive impact of creatine supplementation on anaerobic performance.It is literally *the* most well-researched supplement available, other than like whey protein
>>74138246"natty" is a shorthand for "doesn't fuck with your hormonal profile"Thus, multivitamins, protein powders and similar things are considered natty, while exogenous hormones, hormone receptor modulators, aromatase inhibitors and similar are not considered natty
>>74138290Goalpost movement detected
>>74137966At the end of the day it’s arbitrary and comes more from sports standards but also this >>74138065>>74137966Creatine has a modest effect. I started with a baby 250mg a week test cycle. I’m a strong responder to gear but I went from a long stalled 275 max to sets of 5 at 315, 225 ohp, dunking a basketball, warming up with 15 incline one handed pushups supersetted with 25 flat one handed pushups at 6’3 230- actually started to do this to pre exhaust so I wouldn’t have to lift so heavy. Creatine gave me a modest bump in the number of reps I could do. Test took me to top 1% of guys walking around. There’s your answer
>>74138290Strange I thought natty was short for natural. Guess we're redefining the game out here.
>>74138298Yes, and pinning exogenous test is not natural, while eating more of things you already get from food is>>74138293You wanted to draw the line. That's the line. End of.
>>74138329Is eating 10 2.5 pound steaks a day natural?
>>74137966I'm getting high dose of creatine from food, its natural because its found from foods and you could eat the saem amount from supplementary product or from dairy bsaed products and regular meat eating.Meat eating isn't natural for zoomers and alphas so its not considered natural by them sóytits.
>>74138246You're asking a bunch of dyels on the internet when you should ask a doctor. I just know that creatine doesn't replace your natural hormones. I can't tell you how any of that works.
>>74138340For some rich white folks it definitely was.
>>74137999Be nice
>>74138077He probably didn't need to supplement because steak was cheap as fuck since America hadn't decided to support the third world and migrate a bunch of them and turn the country into one too.
>>74138340Why wouldn't it?
>>74137966Whomst?
>>74137966Ive seen her naked, I wasnt impressed. Anyway, I dont consider creatine natty. I dont pretend to be natty. I blast creatine, Vit D,C and Zinc daily and Im not stopping
The rationale is that creatine does next to nothing lol. You take it for months to have the stamina to eke out one extra rep. If it worked any better than that, it would not be natty, I assure you.
>>74138745Doesn't it give you like a lb of extra muscle per year
>>74137966She's very hot and attractive but my dick is still limp. Am I just getting old?
>just take 10x of the daily dose that you would normally get and go baldNo thanks!
>>7413796610 inches is minimum entry requirement
>>74138735Yeah it just seems like the rest of these guys are copeing. I don't pretend to be natty. Never have, never will.
>>74138788how old are you?
>>7413892636
>>74138943Im older than you and I still regular morning wood. Stop watching porn and drinking alcohol, and do more cardio
>>74137998Just like my ancestors
Good lord my god. Why couldn't my Asian masseuse look like this.
>>74137966Creatine has minimal effect on increasing test. Shooting 500mg of test will increase your levels by probably 70x.There's your difference.
>>74138750No.
>>74138973I don't watch porn but I drink every night (4-5 beers) and smoke weed
I'm so horny
>>74137995A photoshop whore who has a fake ass ?
>>74138734She’s fake bud don’t worry look up her old vids lol she is skinny and brown haired man face no ass etc she does OF now and has a bbl and photoshops her pics and bleached hair
>>74137966One is hormonal and one is a naturally derived thing we get from food. Are you actually retarded or pretending
>>74138067Your logic is stupid because your body stops producing testosterone when you start taking it synthetically
>>74137966Perfect body
>>74138077Now that's what every man really wants to look like.
>>74137995just with a penis
>>74137995Bejitabro btw.
>>74139559NUly bro btw
>>74139559>bejitabro btw
>>74139217Damn, thanks for the heads up
>made for bbc>0 results4chin is kill
>>74137966>asking for logic and crying about public perception like a womanyou're gay, you're a gay dork.blast all the juice you want and stop fucking caring what mortals think.
>>74137966>>74137995SESSO SESSO SESSO
>>74139628she already burns the coal, whores are no longer worth even noticing them.
>>74137966IMAGINE THE SMELL
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>>74139805Someone's mad they're no longer natty lol
>>74137966Because creatine doesn't do jack shit
>>74139030Fuck that’s a lot of booze. You do every night!? No wonder you’re having cock problems, you’re poisoning yourself. Stop that shit
>>74139298Vitamin D is hormonal too is that still considered natty
>>74137966>considered naturalI don't know anyone that considers it natural, but maybe you mean not a steroid?You can saturate your body's capacity for creatine just by eating certain kinds of food. Doing that isn't very realistic, but it is possible.The same is not true for testosterone where the saturation point for test is multiple orders of magnitude higher than the limits of human anatomy. Testosterone is also a hormone meaning acts as a biological trigger to modify your body whereas creatine is not (it is absorbed into your muscles and then remains there as creatine). Because of those two factors the effects and side effects of consuming testosterone are much more pronounced than consuming creatine.
>>74138297Did you go through an legit online pharma? Did you research side effects? I’m thinking about doing it.
>>74140199Just go to an actual doctor. Don't be an idiot.
