Your favorite bootloader? GRUB, Limine, rEFInd, or systemd-boot?
Which one is fastest?
>>100046325Well I don't know. That's why I made a thread.
booting the kernel directly with efistub is the fastest.if you really need a bootloader, then use systemd-boot since it's bloat-free.
>>100046155syslinux
>>100046155grub, it has never failed me. To be honest, I reboot maybe 12 times a year on average.
>>100046421Interestingly, Nigeria has a similar homicide rate, 21.7 per 100k.
>>100046155>>100046421syslinuxhttps://github.com/alpinelinux/alpine-conf/blob/f976aafa3426b003cdd6e26d32d173057f98be44/setup-disk.in/#L1444>>100046379cancer
>>100046155Grub 2.0 because it is the best one, and everything else is just someone having a paddy and wanting choice for choices sake
>>100046379Does systemd-boot have an option for saving the last selected menu entry and starting with it selected the next boot? I need it for Windows.
>>100046421is that michael foucoo?
>>100046155efi-stub
Built-in shell + startup.nsh
>>100046421Does this include police that murder civilians?
>>100048058That would be tiny. Total homicides by police are something like 1000 per year, and most of that is justified (so not murder).
EFISTUB is only an option when not dual booting, right?
>>100046421fwiw the number cited for finland here does not appear in any statfi publication i could find, with homicides in general being under 2/100,000 every year since 2009 and averaging 1.34 between 2010 and 2022gun homicides in 2022 totalled 10 + 107 suicides in a population of 5.56 millionother numbers found in published research for firearm homicides specifically, varying in year reported, floated around 0.5 and 1.5either someone included suicides in the homicide rate in this image or the figures are entirely made up, in either case i would not trust any figures herein whatsoever as they are clearly inaccurate
>>100046155GNU Grub, it works and works really well, systemd-boot is fine but I like grub's ability to use themes and wallpapers so I didn't use it that much.
>>100049762Looks like Ventoy
>>100046155Windows Boot Manager
>>100050923grub also supports pc speaker output so you can make your computer beep amogus every time you turn it on if you eant your neighbours to hate you
>>100046568>12 times a yearYou mean 0.033333 times a day?
efistub
>>100046155What's the point of a bootloader? I can post on IRC from UEFI. I don't need an operating system, let alone a bootloader to start it.
>>100046155systemd boot
What's the use case of bootloaders?
>>100053542Can you shitpost on 4chan from UEFI too?
LILO
das uboot
>>100054262Fractional pixels don't exist.
EFISTUB to Arch Linux
>>100046155What ever works, I usually just use what comes with my distro. When I used Arch I used GRUB until the whole fiasco where Arch broke it, then I started to use systemd-boot.
Using grub in graphical mode has horrible input lag on my laptop for some reason. Like a full 2 seconds between a keypress and the cursor moving. I used text mode for a bit, but then i switched to syslinux, which just works.
>>100046421>ytboi what is dis Linux shii>*injects fentanyl* my MacBook I "borrowed" from sum ytboi *hits bong* works jus fine n shii who needs dis *takes a bite out of fried chicken followed by watermelon* hacka ass shii *punches and stomps someone to death over words* ytboi>I ain't *makes gang sign* usin dis complicated *shoots someone* shii ytboi
>>100046155BasedstemD is what I use, Limine is cool because it's minimal but only supports ext file systems, rEFInd can be cool and useful, GRUB is just bloated
Grub >well documented>shit easy>weeks 200% of the time>millions must boot!also, libre. I'd like to hear one of these faggots describe why it's "bloated".
do 4chingz users even realize they're chimps with keyboards? i don't think they do. fucking keyboard monkeys.
>>100046155Systemd-boot has been pretty cool in the distros I've used it on. I'm waiting for openSUSE support for it (better than now)
>>100054262loading bit booties
>>100059886kek
>>100059886>/pol/troon "comedy"heh
>>100060439it's not comedy if it's all true albeit
>>100060476Hey, I laughed at it, you inbred hick fuck.
>>100046155XOSLbecause on my old rig, I can boot DOS, 98SE, 2000, XP, 7, all from a single physical driveotherwise, IDK, lilo I guess
>>100060499projecting albeit
zfsbootmanager
>>100049762where can I get it, mate?
>>100046155grub, perfect
>>100060167In the end, we are all monkeys with keyboards.
>>100060642Redpill us on zfsbootmanager. What does it do?
For me, it's honestly systemd-boot.
>>100046155I've used grub for 15 years. It just works.
>>100046155>Grub for ISO booting>Grub for PXE booting>Grub for UEFI booting>Grub for BIOS bootingIt just works.
>>100048376>officer-involved shooting
>>100046155Limine boot protocol is so cool. Probably won't catch on, thoughbeit.
>>100062066>we are all monkeysI am not a monkey.
>>100047850Answering my own question: yes, it does.>default>A glob pattern to select the default entry.>If set to "@saved" the chosen entry will be saved as an EFI variable on every boot and automatically selected the next time the boot loader starts.
>>100060642>Shell 88%Idk, sounds good but I'm a bit apprehensive about that.
>>100046791>NigeriaUse it's proper name anon. Niggeria.
>>100066109>NiggeriaIsn't that just Baltimore?
>>100046155I use rEFInd, I like it
>>100059886Kek
>>100046155systemd-boot. I chose it because I love other software from the systemd project, and I trust them to make good decisions.
>>100046155systemd-boot, which I only ever remember as "gummiboot"
>>100061085At Tesco.
>>100046155syslinux on legacy bios, systemd-boot on uefi.special case goes to using grub with libreboot because of full disk encryption shenanigans.
>>100068645Let me find that ClubCard...
>>100046155efi stub
>>100063781are there multiple people on this board that think that's an actual word or is it just you?
>install OS-Proper into GRUB>linux drive loses encryption passphrase and can't unlock it anymoreDO NOT USE OS-PROPER. IT WILL BREAK YOUR ENCRYPTION. JUST USE WINDOWS THROUGH WINDOWS BOOT MANAGER
>>100072560What is OS Proper? Is this some distro?
>>100072818it's so grub can recognize Windows (and maybe MacOS) partitions to boot from
>>100046155grub randomly breaks and so I have a line in my configuration.nix reminding me every time I rebuild that I need to move my server off it
configuration.nix
>>100072885Ah, you mean os-prober. That's weird, I use it with encryption and it works.
>>100046155efistub
>>100046155systemd-stub
>>100046155GRUB because it's the best Libreboot payload, and most others don't support BIOS.There is no good open source UEFI implementation.>but muh TianoCore!https://libreboot.org/docs/bsd/#dubious-mention-tianocore
>>100046155grub
>>100072560>drive loses encryption passphrasedoubt.jpg>>100072907>grub randomly breaksOnly when you're a retard like the poster above and have absolutely no clue about what consequences your actions will have.Grub never breaks.
>>100072560https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/os-proberhttps://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=os-prober
>>100072907Yeah I have the same issue. Grub can be kinda annoying but it's the easiest to just go with.>>100077563cope
>>100077598Nice pointless links!Now post the direct link to a bug report where os-prober (or GRUB) breaks LUKS.>>100077617>I have the same issueTwo (of the 10 existing) Nixtards having the same issues? Surely it must be because of GRUB, there is not other commonality between these!
>>100046379I dont know how to setup the swap file with efistub
>>1000776641st link - ctrl+f "luks" 0/02nd link - 1/1https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=801769you were saying? (since you were too retarded to literally ctrl+f)
>>100049250no, each system can add its own efi entry and you can use the motherboard firmware (or the efibootmgr utility) to choose the next one to boot or modify their default order like you used to do with drives in BIOS times
>>100077696>os-prober does not list connected LUKS encrypted partitions>2015Retard.
>>100061085It just a customized ventoyproof is left bottom corner
>>100046155I use GRUB2, but only with BIOS/MBR booting, UEFI can kiss my ass.
>>100078303>not PXE everywhereLame.
>>100077664worked on my machime, now i just use efistub
>Just learned about EFI stub todayWhy have i been wasting my time on anything else all these years?
>>100079773>wasting my time If you boot enough to for these thread to matter then it doesn't matter.
>>100046379>>100077670>>100079773How do you even setup efistub?
>>100079993You need to set it as an option when compiling the kernel.
>>100072532hello newfriend
>>100077738You're telling me there are 3 layers now? Instead of BIOS's1. Motherboard's boot device selection2. Bootloader's boot entry selectionIt's this in EFI?1. Motherboard's boot device selection2. Motherboard's bootloader selection3. Bootloader's boot entry selection
>>100081795In your UEFI example, 1 and 2 are the same thing.
>>100082187Thanks, I think I get it now.
