why not just make internet 2 and keep it hidden from the normalfags this time?
Multibillion dollaridoo corporations already own private internet cables for their personal use and don't let you use them.
>she doesn't knowinternet1fags been real quiet since this dropped
>>100097488none of us will go there. I think it has to do with some kind of algorithmic human behavior called prospecting and exploitation, basically when you are young, you search out the new, but as you age, you have less and less time to exploit new things, so eventually you stop searching for the next place to be. as a result even if people change the thing you liked to be unrecognizable sheer emotional innertia keeps you riveted in place because your dumb munke brain is telling youA: not to leaveB: no one is going to leave even if you leave.this is why its increadibly important to globohomo that no one here can even so much as transmit the idea of sage to the next generation.
>>100097488hey dummy that already exists and it's hidden from (you)
>>100097488They did but you weren't invited because you have a dank meme and greentexts folder and your only hobbies are watching anime and playing videogames.
>>100097488Protip Sell you something changes nothing
>>100097488onion links seem to be doing a good job so far>normies can't into onionalso, what's L mold?
>>100097488>>>no bass boosts or deep fryinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxLnT5TJjow
>>100097488yeah it's called a small community, they still exist, the problem is you are too old to care enough to invest any time in to being accepted in to one.
The real internet was the friends we made along the way
>>100097488Wala
>>100097488>No bass boosts or deep fryingKWAB, out of all the things he could've criticized
>>100097488>nostalgia faggotryugh
>>100097488>what are onion sites
>>100097488It's called Gemini
>>100097628It's always newfags desperate for validation with this stuff. In the age of forums he'd be a moderator with 9000 messages that joined in april 2023.
>>100097488every once in a while i go watch something like loituma.swf and think about the internet and its aspect as a microcosm for the world and what has happened to itit's obvious that all of the turd worlders and phone users have polluted this place, and the world itself, but even more than that, and even before that, was a complete loss of hope in favor of disaffected insincerity and smallminded malice. I think that even if I found some new imageboard that you guys say is "like old 4chan" that it would be like your idea of old 4chan and not mine, because not only the demographics but the people themselves have changed.
>>100097488>why not just make internet 2 and keep it hidden from the normalfags this time?It's been tried and failed. Tor allowed the creation of hidden services. People are too autistic, have ADHD and a myriad of other issues that prevent them from using anything with a perceived lag or pause.It was then tried again by a group of "hackers" that linked all their Tinc open source VPN meshes together but in that setup in only takes one retard to mess it up for everyone and it turned out you can't form a group of more than 4 people without having at least one retard.
>>100097759Just because normies get filtered out does not mean it failed.
There was a time when the only people who could use the internet were researchers and college students posting on digital bulletins
>>100097820>Just because normies get filtered out does not mean it failed.I personally agree with you but the generally consensus does not agree with either of us. It's still fine for small groups though.
>>100097488Dead internet isnt just a theory any more.
>>100097841but think about all the cool memes we got when teenagers got access to it in 2000 rawr X3
there's literally already dozens of "internet 2s"you're clearly one of the normalfags if you haven't heard of any of them.
>>100097488https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_SeptemberThe current internet is already internet 2, we need to make internet 3
money spoils everything>before money = soul>after money = soullessjust another sign of gods existence.
>>100097627OP won't be able to afford internet 2 premium
>>100098374>define god as having moneyTheists suddenly make a lot more sense.
>>100097521>registered trademarkThe taint of min-maxxing, money-at-all-costs big corpos that shat up Internet1 is clearly still there.You lying sack of shit.
>>100097521Thank you very much sir. I have posted this on tiktok. Hopefully the Indians can be a big part in this huge family and spreading the words of the beaitiful Hindu. Since internet1 has been a plague to the world. With internet2 we can rebuild things better.
>>100098374god is a communist
>>100098997Do Not Redeem!!!1
>>100097672>2023the age of forums is way older than that, have u been living under a rock?
>>100099026bot or retarded?
>>100097672>n..newfagsRetard. I have been using the internet since 90s and forums were great. The fucking modern world killed the last forum I went to and I lost all my fucking friends.
smartphones and easy access to internet was a mistake
>>100099066Yes, however if you make the internet hard to use, that just limits what companies can build a walled garden gateway into it and only they can advertise. btw blocking cell phones is easy. disable IP6 and then on IPv4 block syn packets with a TTL higher than 128 to allow windows, or higher than 64 to allow linux and mac. Also block syn packets with an MSS of anything other than 1460. That knocks out the vast majority of them and most bot farms since most bot farms use big walls of phones.
>>100099050that's what I'm wondering
Old entertainment isn't funny anymore though, but zoomer humour is also insufferable to me. We just need good open-source software for animating, video editing, something similar to Flash Player, game engines, etc. perhaps. But I no longer know what I'm looking for, whenever I'm on YouTube I have no idea what to watch, I don't even remember the channels I used to watch and most of them have become inactive. I somewhat hate the new era of YouTube with all these video essays, political commentaries, product reviews, drama, wish there was something else of more substance.
>>100097488How would you hide it? The only thing that keeps out normalfaggotry is barriers to entry, but barriers to entry also get in the way of attracting young people. So you either get flooded with normalfags (usenet, 4chan) or you turn into a closed space that slowly gets old and boring (every phpBB forum).
>>100099572>zoomer humourIt's so bizarre how normalfags find modern day memes funny and feel the need to spam them everywhere. There's no humor to them. It's just spam and mindless shitposting.
>>100099663It all seems to stem from iFunny, Reddit, Discord, Twitter.
>>100099628>gets old and boring (every phpBB forum)probably depends on your circle of friends.
Previous thread that complained about this: >>100078276
>>100099711your friends will get old and boringso will youyoung people contribute novelty to a communityold people contribute stability
It somewhat seems to me that Westerners are a bit too obsessed with comedy in general, treating it as if it's a necessity, with the belief that you wouldn't be as engaged without trying to be funny sometimes now and then, inserting (mostly unnecessary) jokes or memes here and there, to maintain the viewer's interest, to make you pay more attention as if you're an ADHD-ridden spastic, needing to oversimplify things.
>>100099818Sounds depressing anon. I have confidence you can find new friends.
>>100097759>Tor allowed the creation of hidden servicesStill allows, and there are still quite a few good ones.>muh users stay away because of lags and pausesThat's a shitty excuse you pulled out of your ass.Reason 1 why people don't use TOR: normalfags are afraid it might be illegal, same reason they don't all use youtube downloaders and adblockers.Reason 2 why people don't use TOR: most site admins go out of their way to block it, because it makes it harder to spy on users.
>>100099977>That's a shitty excuse you pulled out of your ass.I would accept your accusation but indeed the complaint I have observed 100% of the time is the clear web is faster. Anecdotal but I am the eggman.
you guys act like the problem is normalfags, but normalfags were the type of people making the internet cool in the old days, what we are going though is societal, the problems that affect the internet nowdays are affecting every other part of society, so if you wanted to fix the internet you would need to fix the world
>>100097488>meme playlistheh
>>100097627STFU retard, it's going to happen AGAIN
>>100097488The internet in its current form is the biggest psyop since the cold war. Think about how effective psychological warfare was in the 1940s and 50s...now imagine all that manipulation using something as powerful as the internet. I suspect most of these "influencers" are hired by the US government to push certain ideologies. Markiplier, the "internets husband" was straight up called to Obamas office along with other "influencers" to discuss how their platform can influence people politically. I highly doubt that they have stopped doing this and that this is a one-time deal. I think they are always contacting influencers because of how easily manipulated minors can be. Their "friends" would never sell them out for money, right?the whole social media influencer system disgusts me.
>>100097634kek this>>100097488>damn memes ain't what they used to begrow up faggot
>>100097488You need censorship resistance. This acts as a way to filter the normies.Censorship is the main reason the internet went to shit. Even if some of the normies don't like censorship, they are easily manipulated into supporting it.
>>100097488>normalfagsThe problem is women.Once women got on the web, the "normalfag" men followed.Remove women from the internet and the old soul will return.
>>100100188There is nothing inherently bad about censorship, as long as it is not actually valuable information. Let's say someone finds a cure against cancer without side effects, but the pharma lobby pushes a law to censor it so they can keep selling radiation treatment. That would be bad censorship. But some guy's who-cares-opinion? Who cares lol.The reason the internet went to shit is because everyone can publish their who-cares-opinions. That's also the same reason why books lost value. There is EDUCATION FOR EVERYONE now and also EVERYONE CAN BE AN EDUCATOR. Back then only the brightest minds of a nation would represent the nation. Now the works of those minds from today are drowning in a sea of mediocracy (or even straight up idiocy). Good luck even finding them.Back then you at least had to have SOME skills to make a website and publish your thoughts. Now it's zero resistance, zero delay, instant gratification and designed from ground up to make it as easy as possible for as much people as possible to share their thoughts.
>>100097488further proof that barriers to entry and gatekeeping make communities and hobbies healthiernormies literally ruin everythingit started when phonefags were allowed on the internet
>>100100482Who determines the relevant opinions?
>>100100529The current power holders
>>100100529The man.
>>100100160https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Xxi0b9trY
>>100100529>>100100570Addendum: someone in power of course always wants to shut down people that threaten their power. But other than that it's basically a free market of knowledge. That means the BRIGHTEST MINDS get higher education, not just everyone. Because that yields the best results for the nation. Education HAS to be a privilege, otherwise it loses its value.Back then intellectuals were very important people in the state. Like Fourier would go on expeditions with Napoleon. Or Gauss would directly work for the King on important issues for the kingdom. There are countless examples like that. Nowadays it's just a secluded circlejerk fest.
>>100100747Thanks Anon. Bookmarked, will watch later today
>>100097488we did, you weren't invited?
the real internet still exists, but it's all hidden behind thousands of discord servers. It's not on Google
>>100097627Why don't make something like Tor Browser but for I2P
Amateur radio is the last bastion of the old world. Everything else today has been bastardized.
>>100101254HAMs are still a bunch of old Karens. CB radio is where it's at. Actually just above and just below 11 meters.
>>100100075>DJ SharpnelFuck, didn't listen to him in 10 years
>>100101196You can configure Mullvad Browser to do that. It's already piss easy to do, but somebody also made a config for it https://github.com/HardenedSteel/I2P.cfgI use my makeshift I2P browser all the time
>>100099977for me the proxy config is way too hard. The fact you need a seperate browser stack (to make sure theres no leaks) rather than just a VPN is annoying.
>>100098374>just another sign of gods existence.
There are plenty of small internet communitiesGemini protocol, Gopherholes, smallchans, neocities etc you just have to look for it. Comfy old internet is still here its just that the surface has become a sea of shit
>>100099999quints of the obvious truthtor is for privacy, not really speed
>>100099999HOLY CRAP QUINTS
I'm not done watching you guys argue. Bump.
>>100102678your post is really giving me opressive troonish vibes. like, if i were to talk to you and your little dilating support group, you would be annoyed very quickly. is that true?
>>100097488With what money?
>>100102678isnt neocities just a bunch of troon websites
>>100102678>https://github.com/HardenedSteel/I2P.cfgDoes I2P have anything interesting or is it like tor where nothing worthwhile exists?>>100102678Didnt neocities get shut down like five years ago?
>>100097488The more I think about an "internet 2" the less likely I think it is to happen since there is little that would stop current existing machines and thus AI spamboys from interfacing with it, so the other option is to limit its commercial or propagandial popularity via other meansThe main enemies are social media "like" addicts/influencers, corporations, data harvesters and general jews so I've thought of a few points:>limited resolution >harsh filesize limits of a few kilobytes, coupled with resolution limits to cap image quality at a very low point>harshly capped speeds to make using it slow and cumbersome for the average tiktok addict>existing social media would continue to dominate with these limits in place, as likes and flashy images/videos wouldn't be able to load as much at all>ideally the system would have propietary filetypes that are cumbersome to convert to/from, but that would just be solved by a script eventually without constant updates (and probably even with updates)>limit video length and size on a primitive video streaming site (240p/360p MAX, no more than 10 minutes a video so retards don't produce 10 hours 4K long videos)>Probably just use forums as the main communication, social media is too prone to the current flaws and algorithmic hellscape we're in nowIt's a very interesting problem to try and solve for sure, it likely can't be done but perhaps just re-creating sites with 90's like limitations would be enough
>>100099841It's because Westerners include their personalities everywhere, and turd worlders act like drones that are just there to play a certain role.
>>100106614>You must act like a quirky xD lol random overly self-aware "free-thinking" Redditor, otherwise you're a coldly-calculated drone-like soulless chink pajeet or something.
>>100099841>It somewhat seems to me that Westerners are a bit too obsessed with comedy in general, treating it as if it's a necessity,their culture evolves around "the office" US version
>>100097488Why not make mesh networks?
>>100097488We have, but your post makes me assume that you're one of these normalfags.
>>100097512not true, anyone can buy azure or aws resources>>100097488https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRuNxHqwazs
>>100097512they're not valuable if only they have them
>>100097538this was only true when 60% of 30 year olds had kids and didn't have time to waste on dumb stuff, my 30s are basically the same as me when I as 18 just surrounded by more dumb people you have to navigate around
>>100097841https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
>>100109845>4chan's been in eternal summer since like 2007>usenetfags have been complaining about eternal september since 1993kek. I bet there's some ancient Roman graffiti about how there are too many newfags in the Forum or something.
>>100100177You first zoomer.
>>100101641>The fact you need a seperate browser stack (to make sure theres no leaks) rather than just a VPN is annoying.You don't thoughbeitJust set up a pi as a router and run the tor software on it
>>100099663You say that like memes were any different in 2007. You're just old and out of touch.
>>100100785>Bookmarkedngmi, yt-dlp anything you want to watch later
>>100101196see>>100100151
>>100097713every once in a while I FAP my BWC to Legend of Krystal v0.2.swfaren't I old and epic? haha!
You're literally using Internet 2, it's internet 3 that filters the normal fags
RWJ, the most popular youtuber in ~2010, never had sponsors.
>>100111238forgot pic
>>100111250
>>100097488Isn't that why I2P, gemini, gopher, and (maybe) TOR made for?
>>100101554>blah blah blahjust give me an .exe
>>100113194>exe
>>100106182A lot of them yes, a lot of young people trying to mimic what they think the old web was like. I host some twine games and some short fiction. I have found some write ups about browsers and other cybersecurity items. It's whatever you want it to be.
>he doesn't know
>>100113406>a lot of young people trying to mimic what they think the old web was likeNot that bad honestly, as least it is a way for a new generation to learn about developing and hosting their own sites. I'll take 1000 zoomer "old-web" blogs over a single twitter profile.
>>100109249>this was only true whenywnbaw. biology is destiny
>>100097488
>>100097488>le nobody is just having fun!!!Dumb doomerposting bait. There are more people than ever before just having fun on the internet, and some people trying to monetize things doesn't change that.
>>100097488if there was a plugin that scraped 8ch threads and injected them here without extra effort, that'd be cool
>>100097488The thing that made the old internet great was fucking with the normalfags.
>Make new imageboard on internet 3.0>PPH <1Not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing to be honest
>>100117377is there no way to recover at least the title of the videos
>>100120456how about a meta-chan that aggregates a bunch of low pph imageboards into one
>>100120626Never understood those things, the other people posting wont be able to read your responses anyway
>>100100747>>100100785this>>100110323and this
>he doesn't hang around in the deep web
>>100120688>the other people posting wont be able to read your responsesIt might require an extra Captcha to post it back but so what
>>100101196you can use Tor Browser with I2P via Foxyproxy
it already exists. the fact you don't know about it means it is working
Just add an IQ test to every Internet 2.0 website. Make people solve a simple 4-piece puzzle captcha.
You mean... web3?
>>100124701drooling idiot or indian?
Some of the old school internet spirit still lives on in private trackers, probably because their populations skew much older due to the fact that zoomers have no tech skills or knowledge of piracy.
>>100101554let me guess. It doesn't switch js off in about:config? all that effort for literally nothing
>>100117377>>100120528https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/430202-filmot-title-restorer
>>100097488the wild web back in 2003 was the best
>>100100177That's right goyim, take the advice of this fellow based Anonymous from 4chan.org! Can't you see that we're doing this for your own good? Just consume, goyim, consume, and never ask questions!
>>100097627>>100101196you can use any browser just use i2p proxythe problem is there isn't any real search engine. only few sites indexed and the rest is all invite-only and unfindable if you dont know who to ask
>>100125916Was it though? I was 5 years old in 2003 and was first exposed to the internet in 2007. My earliest memories are of the wild web. It still felt like an untamed place all the way up until about 2013.
>>100097488its the zoomers. they ruined everything. stupid little retards will ugly haircuts raised on smartphones. they are more tech illiterate than the baby boomers.
>>100111238IIRC yt ads used to pay a lot more back then, was only really after they slashed ad rates in late 2010s that everyone started shilling VPNs and raid shadow legends
>>100097627Came here just to post this
>>100111092Whatever happened to Luke?
>>100097627>WalaIt's voila you fucking amerinigger
>>100129879*viola
>>100129889*VoilÃ
>>100098371What we really need is internet zero
>>100099841This is actually very insightfulYou even see it in political debates, where humourously attacking a strawman is used as a substitute for actual discussion
>>100129835He fell for every /g/ meme hook line and sinker, then went AWOL, I can only assume he finally fell for the "you are only secure if you disconnect from the internet" meme.
>>100129879is a /ck/ thing, intentionally misspelled for it is cursed
>>100108514yes
>>100125990the problem is all you guys ever do is complain and shit up the boardin a way you are contributing to the supposed decrease in quality of online spaces by regurgitating the same things over and over and over and over againthat you refuse to acknowledge this is very ironic
>>100106524people would just link uploads from external filehosts like they did over a decade ago when textboards here were still a thingmaybe leave saving the web to somebody who lived longer than 18 years
>>100108514good postyes, you exemplified both extremes
>>100097488Who ever said you were invited?
Just make webpages with interfaces that are near incompatible with smart phones
>>100129879>vee-ole-uhyeah I don't think so bud
>>100131526voila not viola, fuckwit
>>100097488the problem isn't the modern internet or "normalfags" (which 2009 internet was definitely full of!), the problem is you're old, out of touch, drowning in masturbatory nostalgia >triggered by bass boostsseems like a you problem>funny and creative memesthe average instagram reel is 100x funnier than gangnam style and what does the fox say>few people trying to sellremind me what the dotcom bubble was>wild webyou can google goatse anytime you want my boy, stop seething because you can't be an mosquito gremlin sucking dopamine from unsuspecting strangers by sending it to them and saying "omg lol so triggered" when people are rightfully annoyed about it
>>100131550>voy-lapfft yeah okay ESL
>>100131595>gangnam style and what does the fox saythose are post-2009, by like a lot.
>>100111092"based crypto dropshipping" is a shill for the US government and claims to be a model of a Black person to disguise himself
>>100131595Didn't read, r**d*t typer
>>100129879vwola
>>100131862he deconstructed and destroyed the millennial tranny tbqhhow is it reddit?
>>100131862are literal line breaks reddit typing now?get yourself a real problem. touch grass.
You're talking about discord. That's where all of the human interaction got swallowed up into nowadays. If you can make something like that but open or something, then maybe we can have internet 3?
>>100097488Issue is not so much normies but actual glowies spamming pizza.If you can't deal with it you either comply with glowie demands or get shut down.
>>100097488>yet another whiny retroomer threadfuck off zoomer
>>100099119jeez a real life wizard. and no reply?
>>100131697it's french
>>100132746this
>>100097538Bretty based and true pilled.That said, its important to force yourself to explore. Closing in on that 4 Oh and I feel that if I stop exploring I stop living.
>>100110117NO U, spamming "over 9000 internetz" and "IM A FIRIN MAH LAZOR SHOOP DA WHOOP" was SOUL and REAL and kids these days are stupid as fuck with dumbass jokes that aren't even funny. Not like when I was young, we did it right
>>100100075damn i swear i had this same exact thing, where did we even get this from? too bad i didn't respect the history i had in my hands and just deleted all that shit like >10 years ago...
>>100132746Low bandwidth text-only internetBack to the BBS
>>100097627this
>>100097488You keep normalfags out by moderating for a topic and not for your feelings.
>>100106614>Personality is spamming the same jokes and the same le ebin punchlines over and over again like every other retardWestroons love globohomoism indeed
>>100099999>trips quintsi went
>>100132006voo-ah-lah
>>100132233it's actually the absence of line breaks and formatting that easily exposes the redditors
>>100106182yeah it is extremely hard to find anything worthwhile over there. i swear most of them just treat websites like art projects.
>>100097488>keep it hidden from the normalfags this time?Large groups of people are utterly incapable of keeping a secret.
>>100141614the first true redpill
>>100097488we tried that, it was called Usenet and it was a total failure
>>100136011I guess it was from 420chan or maybe /b/. I downloaded it in Janurary 2008. Most of it is on the Internet Archive.
>>100148273likely 7chan given that one of the songs says it's from 7chan lmao
>>100148302Pretty sure it was not as I wasn't browsing that ib that much even though raids gave me the giggle. At that time I created an IB that was banned by the web hosting compagny, lel.
>>100148374probably got shared around a bit
>>100099663>[ ... ] feel the need to spam them everywhere. There's no humor to them. It's just spam and mindless shitposting.huh, exactly my thoughts when I was reading an /a/ thread about a month agohttps://desuarchive.org/a/thread/263752461/#q263752461
>>100097627welll uhhhhhhh you see when i said i wanted a new internet i meant that i just want the same internet with a billion users and infinite convenient content but just without the subset of people and stuff that i dont like
>>100129879newGOD
>>100097560>your only hobbies are watching anime and playing videogamesbesides that i also enjoy working out tho
>>100097560consooming media isn't a hobby
>>100097488There are times when I feel like making a gemini textboard, but nobody would post anything worthwhile on it.
>>100100584 Based
>>100100482>>100100529>>100100570>>100100584>>100100768It's funny how a lot of these points have been discussed before and even moreso where they came from.
This thread has all these high falutin responses when the answer is that we have too many brown people on the Internet nowThat's it. Just get the brown people off already
>>100151007I love this concept, great idea. Before we sign off on it though, can you give us a breakdown on how this would be implemented?
>>100151426i have a plan of action ready to go that YOU can help with and i am NOT an FBI agent so stop calling me one
>>100097488Some asshole will just plug Internet 1 in to it and ruin it.
>>100097538>that no one here can even so much as transmit the idea of sage to the next generationI honestly think stopping sage from being shown was one of the biggest mistakes Moot ever made.
>>100098469>define god as having moneyI think he was making the opposite point but ok.>>100099014>god is a communistGod is too generous to be a communist.
>>100097488circa 2007 this whole website used to mock snowflakes and edgelords, now 99.9% of it's userbase is made out of them.
>>100150987how did kojimbo know....
>>100097488Unless you make it easy to access people won't go out of their way to use it and if you make it too easy to find and use then the normies will come and get you shut down because people are posting loli or worse
>>100099663But that's board culture.
>>100097521Isn't this just arpanet 2?
>>100097644>>what are onion sitesWhy would you want to vist the darkweb, anon?
Starlink only net unironically
>>100099663>>zoomer humourExplain, tranny?
>>100156897cp of course>>100156935xe can't, look >>100148433it's all the same shit all over again, for the 10th timebut old farts pretend that le old le memes were le good because le soul or some other shitty buzzword
>>100157801I dont think its the memes specifically that people are mad about. Young people have just as lame jokes now as they did back then. Its more that many people only use websites like 4chan and twitter where your basically forced to interact with actual children. Theyre trying to "grow up" and find a website of other boomers to talk to but they have no hobbies or interests outside of anime and vidya to encourage themselves to find these forums.
the better hidden internet exists on me and my friends gate kept discord serverbut you're invited to my 'corddiscord.gg/afterparty
>>100099841Seems more of an American thing than Western.
I'll see you guys on Gopher.
>>100111092erm
>>100097538i left already. Who cares and is intelligent enough follows
>>100097488for me its earth 2.0
>>100097759>too autistic, have ADHD and a myriad of other issues that prevent them from using anything with a perceived lag or pauseinternet 1 is already suited to those
>>100159688Computer, enhance the monero link... JEW!
>>100097488I'll give you a hint, it's a 4 syllable word that starts with r
>>100097521Speaking of Internet 2, anyone else ever use this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I2hub
>>100162259retarderer
Absolute revisionist trash. >no bass boosts or deep fryingYTPs had ear rapes and visual effect spam in the mid-/late 00's. >"influencers" virtually didn't existe-celebs doing it for a living have been a thing since the late '00s/early '10s. >Remember how funny and creative internet memes used to beFor every funny meme there were a thousand shit ones that nobody remembers.
>>100164630the modern "influencer" is an entirely different thing than just being an eceleb
>>100097538Using one's free will is what separates humans from normalfags. Letting that die is imo worse than death. Fight against it anon, don't let that spark die
