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>>100106010I love my CRTs but maybe make a general instead of a shitpost? What crts does everyone own? >Panasonic TAU 30 HD widescreen (lagless 1080i and 480p) >Mitsubishi 2070sb >ViewSonic gs790 >Jvc 13inch SD tv And I have a question. It took a while but I ran through all my focus settings on my 2070sb last night and it's looking amazing. However, and maybe someone can offer advice, when I go into my factory menu (FACT 2) to adjust convergence, the menu just turns off when I click + - on the screen. Any tips? To clarify, I have no trouble finding the settings, just turns the menu off when I try to adjust them.
>>100106089none, I dont have the money nor does anyone sell any at a reasonable price within 150 miles of me. I really want a 4:3 high rest 2048 1536 or whatever resolution it is at a high display rate (75-85 hz) and decent dot pitch. I heard also that there are full widescreen ones too for modern anime. These kinds of displays IMHO are the best possible use case. It seems like the cost of entry online is easily 10k for these kinds of out dated rare displays. Pretty much everything else is a dim 1000x750 or thereabouts display.
>>100106089My personal list right now:21">Sony 500PS>Sony GDM 5402 (p1110)>Phillips 201p>phillips 201b>Siemens 21p4>eizo f930>Mitsubishi 91txm19">NEC 991SB>Vision master pro 450>Sony p991>Samsung dynaflat 957>Medion 1998OB>vision master pro 454 (x2)>Sony HDM-42017">Sony 200GS>IBM P70 trinitron>Step flat screen15">belinea 15"As for TVs:>Pansonic flat quintrix 32">panasonic quintrix 28">Universum ft1747>Grundig Supercolor>Some Metz or whatever 28" I forgot>Universum 15">Sharp 28jsPVMs:>9" JVC>28" BARCO CVMi might have missed 1 or 2 but thats about it
Did any of you ever have to actually daly drive a CRT? It was fucking awful. LCD and OLED are shit but at least they're not space heaters
>>100106239typing this from my 500PS its awesome
>>100106239Yes, in the 2000s. Glad I'm not one of these mentally ill nostalgiafags.
>>100106136>Hard to findAssuming you live in a decent sized city and are willing to travel a couple hours, you'll find one. I got a legendary 2070sb for $175 last week. You just have to be on top of listing and eventually a decent one will show up, and if you are really careful a unicorn will. HD tvs for anime are a dime a dozen, max two weeks to find a widescreen if that's what you really want.>>100106199Peak autism I don't have the space for so many but it's justifiable seeing as they literally won't ever be made again. >>100106239I never thought I could until I found a really nice one. I still don't daily drive it because it would be a waste to do that on such a nice screen, but I could, it's that clear and very smooth refresh rate. >>100106253Id never claim that they are good at everything, but they still do a lot of things better than LCD and even OLED. I was playing wreckfest on my 2070sb and it was unreal how smooth it is, and this is comparing to a 160hz 2k LCD. T. Watching back to the future on my 30 inch rn.
>>100106412>Assuming you live in a decent sized city and are willing to travel a couple hours, you'll find oneI live in rose city and theres nothing, Prove me wrong. >you just have to be on top of the listing meaningless buzzword,. you got lucky.>max two weeksI've been checking for years.
>>100106493Im a leaf and there is about one hd wide screen crt per week within an hour of me and an endless stream of big ass SD sets. VGA monitors at 17 inches are always there, 19 or bigger I see every month or two. I check Facebook and Kijiji (our Craigslist) every day.
>>100106493allright anon, you have warmed my heart enough with that gif to warrant some good advice on aquiring crts.1. forget ebay. only look locally.2. be quick. check your local listings every day3. be willing to drive far.I have driven hundreds of kilometers for some of my setsand lastly, but that depends on where you live, check out abandoned structures, especially office buildings etc.I found a high end 21" CRT that worked perfectly rotting inside the basement of a long forgotten office building once
>>100106563Um. Epic story time on that screen please.
>>100106538I live next to about 5 mega recycling centers that do not allow anyone to come take their CRT donations and everyone donates to these places you have to go hundreds of miles away to escape this and hope there is a CRT in bumfuckistan. >>100106563>break into abandoned structureswhere do you live that these are just lying around? I live in rose city and you'd be hard pressed to find any abandoned offices, it does make me wonder about my friend who lives next to one though.>Assuming you live in a decent sized city and are willing to travel a couple hours, you'll find onefind one what? I am looking in craigslist, ebay, offerup, etc etc. theres nothing for hundreds of miles. how far do you expect me to drive exactly? if it's a full tank of gas thats at least 50 dollars and 6 hours of time. whatever I get would have to be worth 300 dollars minimum cash for that to be worth it. Normally the listings you are describing have no info about the CRT. right now slop on craiglist in the area is 75 for an awful unmaintained lower refresh rate display. of the better ones its closer to 150 and you are still getting a dim 1024 x trinitron display. Every listing I have posted has been laughed at as overpriced but they are the only ones showing up for YEARS.
>>100106588i enjoy urban exploring, and found a nice crt doing so.If you are into old tech scavenging abandonded industry is very much worth it
>>100106633>where do you live that these are just lying around?I got turned on to one by a few friends, and there were crt monitors there too, but early 90s and all smashed to bits.I found the high end one by myself.Drive around your city, on the outskirts, look for run down areas preferably industrial.>how far do you expect me to drive exactly?as far as it takes.a full tank of goes isnt that pricey if you really want a crt.By the way how are you judging crts to be good or bad?Maybe you are passing up good ones because you dont know that they are good?Especially because you are talking about maintenance and dimmness and there is pretty much no way to judge a crt over the net unless it has visible burn in or something.>unmaintainedthat is a given.you will have to open and calibrate pretty much any crt.
>>100106649>>100106714>just dedicate 100s of hours canvasing unknown locationsso your solution for me to not pay thousands in money is to spend hundreds in hours. where is the money saved here? I dont have the space to resolder CRT caps. I don't have the equity in my vehicle or free time to drive everywhere in portland breaking into random places avoiding the police.are you actually feeling warmed or are you just trying to get me arrested or screwed over?
>>100106852Nta but maybe put an ad up saying what you want. Buying on eBay is insane shipping wise. But you do need to check every single day or you just won't find one.
>>100106852if you cant even solder caps just give up on crts.At this points its 50/50 if its gonna need caps or not
>>100106852ok so you want to put 0 effort in, want to pay 0 money and arent even interested in maybe fixing a broken crt.Whining will never get you a crt
>>100106852That area always has crts for sale if you were actually looking for years. Idk why people like you want to get the absolute best monitor as your first one. Just go and get a fucking sub $100 to start. Stop looking at fucking fw900s and other scalped to hell ones
>>100107363welp thats how it is these days.
>>100107277>WWHAT YOU MEAN YOU DONT WANT TO PUT 5000 DOLLARS WORTH OF WORK IN A CRT!?why should I? If I'm going to invest that kind of time I can just BUY one. Only I CANT afford that. If I am forced to choose between buying a product that an EXPERT has fixed up at 5000 or investing over 5000 dollars worth of my own man hours to fix up a CRT that I'd have to get lucky to even get, why in the WORLD should I do the 2nd one? You don't have a cheap CRT, you spent the 5k I cant afford either way. You are at this point just flexing>>100107363>that area has crts for saleyeah the same ones in slab town all of you CRTfags tolld me are laughably overpriced.> Idk why people like you want to get the absolute best monitor as your first one.I wasn't. I was looking for anything above 1024 at what you fags feel is reasonable, which last I checked is 50 dollars like you said. NOTHING is available sub 100 here except A 800x600 for 75.I do not plan to game on these, I want to do work. I want to watch anime. I could MAYBE justify a cheap monitor I can eventually recycle for a high end one like you said but there ARENT any.
>>100107763You are trying to buy a 20-30 year old monitor.CRTs just arent reliable anymore these days.>you spent the 5k I cant afford either wayI have 22 monitors alone and I spent less then 500 euros in total on all of them.If you consider working on crts something you should get payed for, why do you want to get into the hobby at all?The reward for fixing a crt is having a crt to use.
>>100107763post some listings in your area anon
>>100107838I'm sorry you have the reading capabilities of the ESL anon so let me try this again slower and louder just as any burger willlTIME IS MONEYSPENDING HUNDREDS OF HOURS SEARCHING FOR ABANDONED PLACES IS A COSTAVOIDING THE POLICE IS A COSTTAKING APART MONITORS IS A COSTLOSING EQUITY ON MY CAR IS A COSTLEARNING TO SOLDER AND READ ANCIENT CIRCUIT BOARDS IS A COSTALL THESE THINGS COST ME TIME MONEY AND SPACE.and they ALL add up to over the price of a competent in good condition CRT EASILY.Repairing technology isn't my hobby, Development is.>>100107873https://portland.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=crt%20monitor#search=1~gallery~0~0here you go, every time I showed off one in here (theyve been basically almost all untouched for over a year) every crt fag told me not to buy and hit up recycling centers who have all refused everyone access.
>>100107838so anon, I have this panasonic tv from 2004, a 2070sb from 2004 and a viewsonic from 2001. All of them run really well at least to my eyes. Convince me to tear them open and actually dig to cap level. The tv is easy but picrel 2070sb looks like a nightmare to disassemble. All three were very clean and near mint condition btw, I understand caps degrade but, where is the benefit?
>>100107914not that anon but the frustrated one. IMO you should, if you paid a lot of money or dont want to pay a lot of money in the future, have a retro tech at least look at it for 100 and make sure nothing is gonna explode. then have him do the caps for money. Let them worry about taking it apart. from what I understand though unless there is a ticking time bomb in there somehow you dont need to recap if the image is fine.
>>100107909nta but clearly not a hobby for you maybe? You'd be better off spending your money on ebay, even if its $1800 for a top tier monitor. Once it's in your hands you can pay another $200 for calibration etc. Maybe just get yourself an OLED at that point if you just want to watch anime or whatever. There is a lot of joy to be found in adventuring for an item you want. I found a Canon 430ex at goodwill for $12, it didnt function at all. I disassembled it, checked contacts with a soldering iron, cleaned it etc. and it worked good as new again. That feeling was what I was chasing, not just the item.
>>100107926I'd be fine re-capping it myself, I'm good with desoldering and soldering, I just don't want to go through disassembling that behemoth or breaking something in the process. Its extremely rare. I don't even know if I'd trust average joe boomer tv repairman to take it apart carefully, which at that point I'd rather just do it myself. >ticking time bombI don't think the crt would catastrophically just burn up out of nowhere.
>>100107914if they are currently working nothing, but be prepared to fix caps eventually.Its not if caps go bad, but whenif you start seeing lines or artifacts on screen it might be worth it to restore picture quality, but if its working fine there is no reason>>100107909>TAKING APART MONITORS IS A COST>LOSING EQUITY ON MY CAR IS A COST>LEARNING TO SOLDER AND READ >ANCIENT CIRCUIT BOARDS IS A COST>ALL THESE THINGS COST ME TIME MONEY AND SPACE.God being an american sounds dreadfull, imagine thinking about the allmighty dollar every hour of every day.Cars were made for driving anon.Driving it does not "devalue" it, it gives it value by being of use.Your hands were made for working.Taking apart monitors and learning about circuits does not cost you any money.If you think as every minute not spent making money as a lost minute you will have a very sad life.Money is a means to an end not an end anon
>>100107940>theres a lot of joy in adventuringmaybe in an unregulated city or if you are a minority who will walk right by the DA I live in a heavily regulated area. >better off on ebayI am not rich enough to justify that in time or materials. I am looking at a few 4k oleds but I leave my monitors on a lot so maybe IPS would be better overall. in any case most of the monitors that go for 1.8 dont offer shipping >>100107956dont the capacitors and other various bits and bobs house enough electricity to kill a man? seems llike if one of those fail in the wrong way it could in fact render the thing inoperable. Either way the only advice I could offer is to try and find a busted one. if it works fine already you can set up something to watch for a parts only listing.
>>100107972ever minute spent doing YOUR hobbies so YOU feel better is time spent not working on what I care about with my two hands you dumb faggot. it's time I am forced to do in order to get more of what I want weather thats time or money for my own projects materials and assets. the fact that you can't understand this tells me you have the brain of an insect. Money may not be my god but it is the world's state enforced religion and those that don't take part in communion wont be getting any shiny new commissioned music. considering the price of that monitor can almost fund half of an OST from one of the best indie musicians I've ever heard it's not a small thing to give up at ALLbut what am I expecting from someone posting this baka
>>100108001if crts arent your hobby, then why do you want to get into them?like buying a classic car but not wanting to pick up a wrench.
>get into something late>refuse to do any work at all, even driving>bitch out everyone giving you advice>be a total faggotAverage american momentWhy do you all worship Mammon?
>>100108049I want to USE a CRT, not spend all day working on one like you and your 20 crt ol' nagfus.for me, that shit is my art, engine, storyline. >>100108058>NOOO STOP HAVING HOBBIES THAT AREN'T MY HOBBIES
>>100107972Right now it seems these are all pretty low hour. I understand caps don't follow usage time, they just degrade, so worst case scenario will be a leak that damages surrounding components?>>100107977>capacitors house enough electricity to kill a manYep, but it's not my first rodeo, I work on heavy equipment as part of my job and do most of my own repairs around the house (electrical, furnace repairs etc.) You just need to follow rules and not be a cowboy.
>>100106010
Then buy one and stop being a whiny retard.
>>100108142forgot to tag that to the whiny american, whatever.
>>100108110>I want to USE a CRT, not spend all day working on one like you and your 20 crt ol' nagfus.I dont know why you wont understand this, if you arent willing to get your hands dirty shopping for a monitor thats older then you most likely is a bad idea.I dont even spend that much time fixing crts, I go months without soldering some times.If you dont want to learn about crts and electronics, what are you doing here?I dont want to be mean, i just dont fucking get it>>100108134worst case its gonna look like this cap i replaced some time ago.if it leaks onto the board it can be bad, but chances are your crt would stop working properly long before a cap starts vomiting like that.This set is from the 80s so a dead cap here and there is a given
>>100108001>Money may not be my god but it is the world's state enforced religion and those that don't take part in communion wont be getting any shiny new commissioned musicMoney means so little in the grand scheme of things.Aslong as you have enough money to do the things you want to do its all good.Living for money is such a sad way of life>but what am I expecting from someone posting this bakaI guess you are right.I am more or less out of the rat race.I dont have any big ambitionsim glad to be alive atleast when im having a good dayI never bought into the whole money thing that much anyways i can live without it, though I dont mind having it
>>100108182thanks for answering my questions, you've given me some peace of mind. Some non peace of mind, a 130lb wide screen crt on an ikea side table... it can hold my 190lbs while I wiggle on it so... we shall see.
>>100106010I'm not by any chance a knowledgeable /g/ user so forgive me but I remember seeing in some random about some problems with CRTS such as having a short life-span or common short-circuit issues, how true are these? I live in Brazil so I assume perhaps I won't have that much of a problem seeking one if I ever feel to but considering the quality I don't want to spend money only for it to be short lived.
>>100108346i would say crts generally were more reliable then LCDs.WERE.crts are at best 20 years old now.any crt could die at any point pretty much
>>100108346Not the expert here but you can google >phosphor wearthey just get dimmer and dimmer the more they are used, the phosphors are what is "excited" and lights up when shot by the electron gun. They are on the inside of the tube so it cant be re-coated or fixed, the tube is a vacuum of glass. >burn inalso related, the same image on one spot will leave it residually on the screen>physical damagethey are prone to going out of wack when moved because crts are very much an analog device. >electonics degradingCaps will start working out of their spec, affecting the image, or they just degrade to the point of spilling elecrolyte or whatever onto the board like the above anon showed. like he said, its not a matter of if, it's when. SO with all that said I went with a shittier vga crt for watching anime and keep my high end crt for gaming only, they have a limited lifespan.
>>100108431>also related, the same image on one spot will leave it residually on the screenBurn-in can be fixed by waving around a strong magnet in front of the CRT while it's in operation.
>>100108446no.burn in is unfixable.but you pretty much dont have to worry about burn in in normal conditions
>>100108446>>100108466Degaussing is what they are referring to no?
why is it always americans being confidently wrong like and insiting on themselfs with all their might?
>>100108485degaussing fixes magnetism, burn in the phosphor being physically burned blacker over timethat being said, not even burn is the end.In games burn in is usually hard to notice unless its super badI played on plenty arcade machines with burn, it was ok
>>100106199Which one do you think is aesthetically the best looking? Like buttons/placement/stand etc, not including the screen itself. I always admired the Belenia
>>10010865791txm or p1110 maybe
>>100107277Yes, whining will get me a crt.
crt rolling scan > lcd stroboscope
>>100110790
I don't know where you guys live, but here in Tennessee finding CRTs for dirt cheap is still relatively easy. I got a 1080i sony wega TV for 50 dollars in 2022. Just gotta look on Facebook marketplace or find one on the side of the road in a nicer old neighborhood.
>>100112119Tv's are insanely easy to find, it's the monitors that are annoying. In canuck land I see trinitroon tvs listed regularly for almost nothing
>>100112435Also a leaf. Yes there are many good deals to be had, but a look ot of insane people too. Currently there are countless trinitrons around me, even a new in box Japan import for $650 (still overpriced imo). But get a load of picrel.
So many trinitrons
>>100112755what in gods name is that abomination? What the fuck happened to the screen? >$1200
>>100112803
Lots of crazy people
>>100112854sup fellow ontario f4g
>>100112962Crt purchase competition eh...
>CRT TVs>no V-hold knobwtf do I do? there is no v-hold knob on the back . front, menu or inside.....help
>>100113091Model?
>>100113446sony trinitron KV-9PT40
>>100113091Why do you keep posting this schizo
>>100113091your moms v holds my knobHAHAHA
>>100113504>>100113506cause I have 6 of them now. I did what /g/ told me to do.
>>100113531You dont even know what a v hold knob does cargo cultist
>>100113490Is the TV from your region? Have you tried different sources?
>>100106239Yes? and it was much better than lcd at the time. That's why all cs players kept using crt long after lcd existed.
>>100113549stops the hdmi -> cable from flickering >>100113570shit works. just can't hdmi to cable or RCA to work.
>>100113586I diagnose you with nigger iq
>>100113586>KV-9PT40how are you hooking an hdmi to this.
>>100113635hdmi -> rca
>>100112755This is strictly a collectors item. Its image quality sucked even when it was new, and its definitly going to suck now.
>>100112783Does anyone even like trinitrons? I always hated the wire shaddows.
>>100114918Yes people like them. I never notice the shadow on mine.
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Yes or no?
>>100112803lol that screen is completely destroyed
Is 1600x1200 the best easily available CRT monitor resolution? For the non expensive CRTs? >>100108110Nono is gonna have my babies
>>100118223seems to be the common resolution if you are looking for a pc monitor. Look at the available refresh rates at which resolution if you want to game, if its just for anime then its not as important.
>>100108141School Days Fans sollten sich einfach umbringen
>>100107873well anon?there aren't that many listings I posted, I'm curious, where they bad like you all said last time?
>>100118307yeah you seem to live in scalper hell
>>100118589>scalper hellThe last two CRTs I bought, the owners interviewed me on what I wanted to use them for. It was super weird but they explained they didn't want people to re-sell them, wanted them to go to a good home etc.
>>100118968good to see
>>100118301no u
>>100118223One issue you might find with cheaper CRTs is that they will sync to high resolutions, but won't look good. My CRT will sync to 2048x1536, but even 1600x1200 is blurry due to the rgb circuitry being inadiquite.
>>100120153what crt do you have and have you ever touched focus pots?
>>100120307iiyama vision master 1451The focus is fine. Its definitely an analog bandwidth issue since high refresh rates also make it blurry.
>>100106010So anyone out there with a 2070sb who has successfully calibrated convergence? My problem is outlined here >>100106089 basically menu closes whenever I hit + - while adjusting in fact2 service menu
>>100124210so sovlbut I would have made fun of you for buying compaq and not just building one yourself... also wtf kind of "desk" is that... looks like a soft top table
>>100106010Just got one myself. Shit's massive as fuck. It's 15in measured diagonally, I think. It's not that big, it's just that it's pretty long from the back; it's got a massive dumpy; it's a little loose in the caboose. Anything I should test/know about using a CRT? I probably should've looked into using and maintaining a CRT properly before buying one, but $30 and a kiss on the cheek is a price that can't be beat; I had to jump at it immediately. I remember someone mentioning in one of the miscellaneous CRT threads that his CRT was producing nerve gas or something (ozone). Why'd that happen? Any resources for finding out more about my particular model--specs, manual, etc (other than https://crtdatabase.com/)? There's nothing I can (easily) find online. It's an EMC (ECM maybe) Microsystems CRT. I've already tested it and can confirm that it's working. Is it true that CRTs give you cancer? Do cancer patients still get free weed?During the exchange the guy asked me if I was a faggot (if I was going to use it for gaming). I raughed.
>>100124607Forgot to mention the fact that I'm thinking that i probably should've gotten one of them cube-shaped Sony color PVMs; it's much smaller and compact, and has much more (easily accesible) documentation online for it. There are two or three listings in my area, but they're being fags about it and putting it up for $1; they're pulling that "make me a reasonable offer" bullshit. I know they probably don't expect $1 for it. How much should I low-ball them for it?
>>100124210>>100124337https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edCYyc-Dvno
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>message crt seller on craigslist>immediately get emailed phishing linksWelp crt bros, I guess i'm not getting another syncmaster, my 955df will have to do for now
>>100126764They should really try doing that with iPhones instead of CRTs. Know your audience right?
>>100120778focus nearly always improves things.its the one calibration I do to pretty much all of my crts.Even with limited bandwith it should clear things up a little
>>100118223oldfagging here, i found in my decades of crt experience that at 85hz,17" 1024x768 looks best.19" 1280x1024 looks best. (4:3, 1280x960)21/22" 1600x1200 looks best.They might support higher resolution, but things will get blurry. For games/video not an issue, for an operating system/browsing it becomes tiresome though.
>>100130253Question. At full resolution (don't remember but very high, diamondtron) everything looks great. When I make a 1600x1200 resolution I get insane ghosting, like, I can see a green red and blue shadow around my mouse and start menu. Any ideas? Using custom resolution utility and am sure my Hz are in line (under 140 horizontal). I let the other settings go automatic.
>>100130253most decent 19" monitors can handle 1200p and alot of 21" can handle 1440p1440x1080 also good for 19"
>>100130871not really.with cru, make sure you don't use reduced blanking.you might try 'exact crt' or 'dmt' instead of cvt timing.start with 1600x1200 60hz.
>>100106412Your either a boomer or a zoomer hipster whot hinks he's somehow smart, intelligent or better than anyone else or something. I'd kick you out if I were your dad just for that dumb brick and the electrocution bills.
>>100132582So I tried what you said, in a way, instead of full manual I set it to CRT and it's all very squeezed but it did get rid of the ghosting, so you are onto something
>>100133879Shut the fuck up tranny
>>100133879Not sure how you came to that conclusion, but I'm not a boomer or a zoomer. Sorry that anon was too lazy to look for a thing he wants, expecting it to just magically appear since he also doesn't want to pay the convenience tax of buying on ebay. Not to mention their lack of drive to actually open one up and learn how to solder something.
>>100112803a cataract, it's some kinda plastic goop that the factory injected between the tube face and outer glass, turning crusty with age. it's fixable.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLKQFTM28lU
>>100130871you're way up at like 250mhz dot clock, and vga was originally intended to transmit sub-30mhz dot clock while keeping component costs minimal, so the cables and connectors don't even make an attempt at RF impedance matching.you're seeing time domain reflections of the DE-15's connector pins, plus maybe a little bit of crosstalk.there's nothing you can do unless your graphics card has BNC outputs and your monitor has BNC inputs
>>100135304dude even the most basic cables are good for 400mhzits rarely the cable and BNC does not make a difference, apart from BNC cables being slightly better shielded usually
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>>100135304>>100135818I agree with second anon that it's not Hz related. Even when I drop my framerate down, requiring less bandwidth, the problem persists. Native resolutions at higher res that are automated by Nvidia work fine, but they don't fully utilize the screen, its a cru thing.>Other monitorWorth mentioning I use the same cable and cru on the other monitor without a problem I'm going to post a screenshot shortly of my 1600x1200 Cru profile maybe someone can help.
>>100137386post doom on one of these for a change nigga
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>>100138638incredibly based
>>100135304just get DAC that doesnt need a cable.this one plugs straight into the monitor and bypasses the need for VGA cable completely
>>100106010hrt
>>100138740Nta but just bought that same one I think. Was recommended a few crt threads ago
>>100138824Forgot pix
>>100138832have some bad news for you anon, one of my friends ordered a few aswell and they dont seem to be as good as they used to be.Mine from a year or so ago does 400mhz, the ones my friend just bought barely do 160- 250mhz.Wishing you that you get a good one, but they seem to have cheaped out on the parts sadly
>>100106089>>100135304>>100135818So here is an...infographic? of my issue. Settings from CRU are in the screenshot. Hopefully its self explanatory. Problem persists even when I use a 60hz signal. RIght now its working perfectly on a default 1920x1440 85hz btw, but any custom resolution gives me the results in the image.
>>100138972so should I be looking at the chip in your photo above to compare? I don't know how I'd actually be able to tell if I have enough juice.
>>100139031if there is an image displayed and there isnt heavy artifacting the adapter is fine
>>100139024either you use the controls on the monitor to stretch/shrink the image horizontally.if the pixels are missing, you either are driving your monitor too fast or your adapter can't handle it. check cru timing standard and set it to exact crt, my 1600x900 on the projector was also missing the left and right side, changing cru timing and then fiddling with the h-total, reducing it in increments of 8 to stretch the image, helped tremendously.For such high resolutions you really need a dedicated vga card with 400mhz ramdac. a simple hdmi to vga converter won't have this.
>>100139681Actually the 2 euro aliexpress HDMI to VGA dac does 415mhz funnily enough.but like I said i think they use a cheaper DAC if you buy now
>>1001402712750x1440 looks so funny on a crtcompletely unusable offcourse but 1920x1440 looks good
>>100139681for 1600x1200 at 75hz you only need around 200mhzany cheap dac should be able to do that much
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>>100139681Is it sensible.to have to make these adjustments after a resolution change of the same aspect ratio? The screen works great at stock resolutions in my Nvidia settings, only cru goes wonky. In fact, if I use the wonky resolution while playing a game, the game also behaves fine. Its all very strange to me. It's worth noting that this cable/dport to vga was used on another monitor for ages at an equal and higher resolution to 1600*1200 without a problem.
>>100142287dont use CRU.CRU is dogshit.nvidia control panel has all you need
>>100142287aspect ratio has nothing to do how resolutions perform, so no not really.your adapter is probably fine.my guess is you just need to adjust the 1600x1200 timing. so add the wonky resolution as a detailed resolution in cru. then set the timing to exact crt, reset the driver and see if that fixes things.
>>100142855or:just dont use CRU and use nvidia control panel to make your custom res.
>>100106010>>100106089I don't know all my exact specs and models but here's a general list:>TVs36" Toshiba from like 199924ish" Sony Trinitron from the late 80s12ish" Sony Trinitron from the 90s, currently the RCA jack for video does not seem to work. Tube works because I can see OSD for volume, picture, etc but I can't get anything from the RCA. Haven't looked into it.>MonitorsADI MicroScan we have had in the family for 30 years. Completely yellowed outside but still works. KDS "flat" screenTwin ViewSonic 19ish" monitorsSony Trinitron 420gs Some tiny Compaq with a busted stand but otherwise works greatSome brand I haven't heard of and forget the name of right now but it's black and silver so a bit later model i assume. It works so.Apple iMac g3 in green. works as of 5 years or so ago.Then a handful of screens I don't currently have at my house but plan to get from parents:Tiny Emerson VCR CRT combo unit.even tinier black and white portable from god knows where. novelty value alone would be funandtiny little amber only (I forget what the actual tech is but it connects via a DB9) monitor that goes with a brother word processor I got from a thrift store 10 years ago for 25 bucks.Also my grandpa used to have a tiny handheld CRT of some sort. Absolutely tiny. Black and white only but I remember being fascinated at the size. I have no idea what ever happened to that thing. I remember watching a baseball game on it before the digital switch happened. I'm sure it's in a landfill now unfortunately. It was like a Sony Watchman but I don't know if it was actually a Sony. I have such a fuzzy memory of it.
>>100107277A crt may just get you whining, however.
>>100106010help me /crt/I have a HDMI to composite converter, and I have a bunch of CRT tv's. I have the resolution of that display set to 720x480. I have four CRT's in my current configuration, all getting the same signal from the PC by means of a composite distribution amplifier. The entire 720x480 display is visible on only one of the TV's. The other three TV's are missing information on the screen, as if they're expecting a lower resolution. Are they just shitty CRT's or is there something else going on here?
>>100146860yeah thats how crts work.if too much is missing its probably the shitty adapter tho
>>100142855I haven't had a chance to play with timings but will do that next. I'm confused about the aspect ratio thing though, when I use Nvidia 1600x1200 the image is really wonky, on my other crt monitor I don't end up with a 30% change in dimension when swapping between these common 4:3 resolutions. I will try what you said about timing >>100142309Why is cru dog shit? I've always used it without trouble (until now). Nevertheless I went and deleted my cru profiles and went to Nvidia like you suggested. Image is not doing the same stretch nonsense, now it's super squeezed, same resolution. Going crazy here.
>>100149832use GTF
>>100149893What is gtf?
>>100150452timing standard made for crts
>>100149832also have you checked that desktop resolution and active signal resolution match?you need both to be 1600x1200
>>100150652I haven't. Is this going to be the "wow anon you are a dumb ass" solution... ?
>>100150881possibly.its worth checking with squeezing situations
>>100150652This is where I got to using windows display settings. So yes I did get rid of the ghosting/strangeness of this post >>100139024 but now its all squeezed. I don't really want to play with my geometry since I spent ages getting everything right, I assume there is another issue here, I've never had such a drastic change in geometry while swapping between resolutions on my other CRT or even TV's connected to this pc. Thinking I will just end up living with the 1920x1440 but I don't want to give up on it. >>100150488So when I went into nvidia control panel and customized my resolution, I selected GTF from the drop down, no change unfortunately.
>>100151297if it works at lower hz, just run lower hz.You dont need to push right up to the limit, infact that is a recipe for artifacts
>>100151297oh and you never want to run active signal resolution higher then desktop resolution.if you run 1440p make sure desktop res is 1440p aswell
>>100151400>>100151432So I just fixed it, and now seeing your message. I switched it from 109hz to 108hz in nvidia custom resolutions... it works. Some geometry change but nothing like the image above where it's all squeezed. I thought it HAD to be 109 because of timing or something (I'm clueless) but 108 seems to be giving me acceptable results. In the meantime I went ahead and added all the other resolutions recommended for this monitor and they also worked fine besides the 2048x1560 at 86Hz setting, I'm assuming not enough bandwidth as it didnt warn me I was over the limit, it just did nothing. Anyways, I'm dumb and I'm sorry anons who tried to help me, and it did help since googling everything suggested got me on track.
>>100151513nah crt doesnt care about any specific set of hz or res.you can pretty much run whatever you want aslong as the timing is right>2048x1560 at 86Hz setting, I'm assuming not enough bandwidth as it didnt warn me I was over the limit, it just did nothing. That is the fault of your adapter not the monitor, it cant push 400hz.Thats why good adapters are so sought after these days, because HDMI to VGA adapters that can get the most out of high end monitors are rare
>>100151558>2048x1560I actually managed to get it working by again lowering the hz by 1. This is pretty strange since basically none of the recommended hz I see for this screen work properly unless I step it down by a couple numbers. Another strange thing, all of the geometry is messed up on each custom resolution, however its messed up in the same way, which is good news since it means I can do one adjustment that hopefully captures all the resolutions. I really hope I don't have to run through my focus settings/potentiometers again once I play with the geometry. Total noob mistake, I calibrated the screen on a non typical resolution... fuck me right. Again, thanks to everyone who offered suggestions.
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>make a crt monitor wanted add>someone responds asking me to clarify if i mean "old retro monitors">refuses to sell me theirs without asking for a priceWhy are people like this?
I miss my CRT so much bros, why did I throw it away...
>>100152760Go get another. They're still out there. Every single one of my CRTs has been completely free. Hit up friends and family. I know>faceberg but I seriously just put out a generic "does anyone have any old TVs or computer monitors they don't want?" and within a year I had more than I knew what to do with.
How noticeable will input lag actually be if I get a CRT again?
>>100106010Does anyone know anything about a Futura LP795 or a model no. K7034LD? I picked up a monitor but I can't find the manual for it anywhere.
>>100153779it has basically no input lag.when i use it on my pc with 1000hz polling dualshock 4 it's truly instant.like rotating the camera in any 3d game feels magnitudes better.>>100150452other timing standard.basically close to exact crt.try them both if one of them doesn't work.
>>100146860Why 720x480?