Do westerns really can buy a $1000 pc with just a half of their month income? In Russia, it would take a 1.5 month salary for me, and it's even considering good payment
>>100141647same here in Greece. A 600euro iphone is equivalent to a monthly wage
>>100141647A $1000 conputer equals 6 months of my monthly wage in IranStop complaining
>>100141658It says average salary in Greece is 1,277 EUR per month
>>100141647What the hell my third world shithole pays better than that.
>>100141647In half a month, I make $6000
>>100141647not westerns, just Americans. they make too much money for their own good
>>100141688With a wage that low you could make more working 2 hours a day on freelancing sites. But I understand it might be difficult to get paid.Maybe you could do bug bounties and ask to get paid in crypto then find someone willing to convert it to your local currency for a fee.
>>100141647My portfolio ticks $4k up and down every other minute lol
>>1001416911277 gross is about 1000 net.Also 600-700 net is what most people are paid, or slightly above that
>>100141647we also pay that much on rent so....
>>100141647>1.5 months salary$1000 is currently less than my monthly salary as a nanosek in Russia. Conversion rate is getting worse though.
>>100141746Didn't know greekbros also get murdered by taxes
>>100141729That's a path some people choose here. But most of those smart enough to do that stick to studying or getting proper work experience so they can move to a proper country as a phd student or high skilled worker.I have a good resume with master's degree, I'll be moving out as I find a job
>>100141849What do you do?Can I get a junior position?I know some programming, network, all that stuff
I'm among the bottom-rung employees in my company, but a week's pay can get me a nicely spec'd MacBook Air.Though I'm in the film industry and we do 60 hour weeks. So lots of overtime, and not unusual to see some double time hours here & there.
>>100141647That's a bit less than electricity bill costs per year here in Warsaw for me in one small house (~$1300 and set to rise). Property tax is 250ish, gas is 3000ish, water 250ish.The average salary of someone working in enterprise here is around $1900 brutto according to our national statistics. The cost of an RTX 4090 is over $2000. Even the cost of a 4070 until last year was around $800. Minimum wage is around $750 netto per month iirc. Retirement money is half of that.>>100141688P H U N. How is cost of living on the other hand?
>>100141647$1000 is the average lifetime income of an average Indian in India. let that sink in.
>>100141647A pc is supposed to last you 10 years, maybe even longer now that hardware barely improves anymore other than in dude and power consumption. Surely you can save enough for a new pc for 10 years.
>>100141691it's average not median you dumb sack of retarded shitif 999 people are starving in your neighborhood and 1 guy is a billionaire then your average net worth is 1 million dollars which is a retarded and inaccurate real life metric.
>>100141688Is it possible to escape Iran
>>100142086Are you a gorillionaire or what?
>>100141688>but muh hungry niggers!Don't care didn't ask, cease this boomeresque nonsense.
>>100142086nigga how are you paying 250 bucks on water
>>100142175>he doesn't know
>>100141647No, decent PC in Australia is ~$3,000
>>100142159What makes you think that? >>100142175Do you not pay the bills for utilities like water? We also have something called rain tax, which you get a discount from if you collect rainwater. An inspector periodically arrives to check it whether it'd be a barrel or a piping system.
>>100141647Why are you spending $1k on a pc? Are you retarded?
>>100141647romanian fag here. i would meed 2k$ to buy a thinkpad x1 carbon gen 11send me the funds at the monero wallet 89T25GZPVhwB9 HzEfLpUFGYBAFk8Btv1V9b AeCjw87rR2Xvqn6mhTJwMHbR1wWT2PH2phZxQiG x4EF8txHjDx1aH9gEUM5Qi promise i mine some shitcoin and giv backmy salary is 2200 lei. rent and utils are 1500. groceries 500 more. i live on 50€ a month lmaoi broke up the addr cos of post format reasons remove ze spaces
>>100142457Why not? Do you prefer to waste your money on a booze?
>>100141728tajik>russia>poland>netherlands>england>norway>americait's a cycle of moving west for better pay
Yeah just go die in battlefield. They say you can have $2000/mo. If you survive.
>>100142464i will never understand romanians and bulgarians who stay in their country. you have EU passport you can literally take the next flight to Germany/Switzerland/Norway etc and work there.
>>100141647test
>>100143232Cost of living is incredibly cheap, so it's not worth it unless you have a good paying job lined up in an expensive country
>>100141647Brazilian minimum wage takes about 5 months to pay a $1000 pc (ignoring any spends or fees)
>>100141746Around 670 net is the minimum wage
>>100142943That's bullshit but I believe it
>>100141647I (freedomfag) can, because I have a good job and little debt, no kids.Most of my friends/family cannot however. There's a huge amount of variability of wealth in the US. These days, dirt-poor people are becoming the norm due to global free trade and corporate capture of the govt
But muh turd world cost of llife.
>>100143232Language barrier. When you are mute you up as one of those meat plant workers in germany. For someone like me who could in theory talk to people in the uk? The very reason I learned english in the first place - terminal autism.
>>100141647Third of my monthly salary here in Italy
>>100142884Why would you move to USA if you can get settled in Norway?
>>100142089This. And if you can't conserve a smartphone made post 2017 for at least 5 years, take better care of your shit
Yes, $1000 is fucking nothing if you're a working adult in any western country.
>>100142464>romanian>begging for moneylike pottery
>>100141647Sort of, but not really. Consider the median sum of money your employer is paying you:>pension 24%>income tax 17%>municipal taxes 8-11%So really you're left with ~2,3K€ to pay your bills and living expenses. If you live very frugally in low-cost area and make your own food you can get that into ~1K€. So it's _possible_ to buy it with roughly a month's worth of income.Don't forget you still have to pay 25,5% VAT on everything you buy
>>100141647Yeshttps://youtu.be/66ISDVKhdpc
>>100141647A $1000 PC is half of my monthly minimum wage yes.T. Canuck
>>100143413What seems especially dick move to me is companies saying they're willing to hire you for 200K, but since you don't live in silicon valley you can take 80K or go fuck yourself
>>100141761Which is inexplicable because the materials aren't any more expensive there than a few counties over. The 'value' of contemporary western housing is purely speculative
This explains the post quality on this fucking board. Its full of goddamn turd-worlders.
>>100142570No I put it in tax advantaged investment accounts.
>>100143981No one is allowed to build.This is because no one wants to socializeThis is because there's no freedom of association and so when people can't choose their friends/neighbors/associates they choose to just not socialize.The materials aren't more expensive, we're experiencing the early stages of a political crisis.
>>100142464then buy a fucking x390 for 200€ you retarded ciganall you poor niggers deserve everything you get
>>100141691After rent and food, maybe 200 EUR are left so they'd have to save up for 5 months
>>100141647yeah i can but my mortgage is half of my income and it costs £80 to fill up my car with petrol, so it balances outalso materialistic crap will not fill the empty void in your heart
>>100141647Buy cheap Xeon workstation with 28 cores for ~$100 on ebay. lmao
Money talk on /g/ is always interesting to me. I make a pittance compared to some of you people, but I put over half of it into a savings account after rent, car payment, internet, phone, and food every month.
>>100142884>>100141647Europe has a better quality of life than America even if you make less money
Come back when a badly built 3 room house in a shitty neighbourhood full of crystal meth addicts is 1.5 million dollars. Yes my salary is 160.000$ and I can buy good hardware but I still feel poor.
For example this guy >>100144718 has a better life than me in Australia >>100144984
>>100141728depends on what job you have. we make more money because we have less taxes taken out. we don't get that safety net that a lot of other people do. it's easier to end up homeless here.
>>100143445You could learn German. I'm American and if i somehow ended up in Germany, i would have to work with the other immigrants working shitty jobs lmao.
>>100144718i make about 5k a month and my bills are under $1500. i dont have a car payment (car is paid off) and Food is about ~250 a montha house here is 500k for a shack with all the windows broken though, so ill be a rentoid for life probably
I finance my pc purchases over 10 years.
>>100144947>thirdies falling for the meme again
>>100143268>Cost of living is incredibly cheapis it in romania and bulgaria thoughcause it isn't anymore over in serbiaat least all of our countries have significantly better broadband than g*rmany lol lmao
>>100144598>my mortgage is half of my incomewas the deanobox worth it
>>100141647no, we buy a $1000 pc with 1/10 of our monthly income lol
>>100145753beats rentin'
>>100141647Yes. But in most western countries that'd be considered being poor. The middle class makes like 100k a year these days. 1k on a computer is nothing compared to spending 25K a year on rent.
>>100141647My russian friend constantly brags about how all his family members have the latest samsung
>>100142884Why the fuck do people want to move to Poland all of a sudden? Fuck off we're full, always have been.
>>100141647$2000 per month is barely enough to make ends meet in the west.Socialized rent for a small apartment is easily 1/3rd of that, leaving only about 1300 for food, subscriptions, clothes, holidays, etc. - enough but only just.
>>100143827shut up nolo ukko bitchyou are like a millionaire compared to this vatnegro
>>100146773>latest samsung economodel smuggled tax fee
>>100141647My negroid I make like 4500 a month.
>>100146695>100k a year these days.That isn't much anymore due to inflation.
>>100145039this
>>100141647>If you make $100,000 a year living in the region of California, USA, you will be taxed $29,959. >That means that your net pay will be $70,041 per year, or $5,837 per month. >Mortgage $3000>Car, gas, insurance $1000>Credit Card $4000>Student loans $1000>Total -$3163Sure can. Just put it on credit LOL. Thats the American way! $100k is so much money. I'm seriously rich.
>>100146930What?
