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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.

>CPU
Web browsing: i3 14100, 5600G
Budget: i5 12400F, 5600
Gaming: i5 12600KF, 7600
High end gaming: i5 14600K, 7800X3D
Workstation: i7 14700K, 7900X
AM4 upgrade: 5600, 5800X3D

>COOLER
Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO
Scythe Fuma 3
Thermalright Peerless Assassin SE
Budget: Assassin X 120 Refined SE, ID-COOLING SE-214-XT
AVOID: Dark Rock Pro 4/5, NH-U12A/D15

>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB 3200CL16
DDR5: 2x16GB 7200CL34. Budget: 6400CL32, AM5: 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: Cheapest PCIE4
Mid range: WD SN770
High end: Sabrent Rocket 5, Samsung 990 Pro, Solidigm P44 Pro

>GPU
1080p: 7700XT, budget: 6700XT, 6650XT, used RTX 2080 Ti
1440p: 7900GRE budget: 7800XT, used 6800XT
2160p: RX 7900XTX, budget: RX 7900XT
AVOID: Nvidia GPUs (4070 series has too many driver issues on Windows 10 & 11, 4080 and 4090 have board design issues causing hardware failure)

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Thermaltake Versa H18, Thermaltake S100, Deepcool CH370, Fractal Pop Mini Air, Lian Li O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks G300A (1 fan), Montech AIR 903 Base, Lian Li Lancool 216, Lian Li Lancool III, Fractal Torrent

>PSU
Budget: High end gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX, be quiet! Dark Power Pro 13, Corsair HX1500i refresh
AVOID: GAMEMAX
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atx-v3-0-pcie-5-0-ready-psus-picks-2023-hardware-busters/

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>MONITORS
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/dP3v4D

>CASE FANS
Meta: get a case with good stock PWM fans
Budget: Arctic P12 PWM PST 5 pack
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM

Previous: >>100140754
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I’m trying to wait for the 9000-series but I think just getting the 7800X3D will be fine to match my 7900XT at 1440p…
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ0ACXr0JPI
>GPU price crash bro just 2 more weeks bro
Why do techtubers keep making this shit clickbait for what feels like 6-7 years now? At this rate we're looking at a financial crash next quarter before the next-gen GPUs even launch.
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>>100142601
>The 5800X3D is the same price as the 13600KF, how is that not a recommendation?
Did you not read? It is recommended for a drop-in AM4 upgrade. 13600KF currently costs $244 in the United States and can use both DDR-4 and DDR-5, while the 5800X3D currently costs $310 and can only use DDR-4.
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>>100146828
>Why do techtubers keep making this shit clickbait for what feels like 6-7 years now? At this rate we're looking at a financial crash next quarter before the next-gen GPUs even launch.
To earn money. What else do you think?
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WTF is wrong with the GPU market?

There has been 0 fluctuation in pricing for months now here.

Same exact price
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So my uncle asked my for a nice pc with a budget of $600, is this good?

>cpu
i5 12600k
>cooler
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120
>mb
MSI MB Pro B760M-A WiFi
>memory
ddr5 2x16gb
>psu
ADATA XPG CORE Reactor 650w
>case
thermaltake s100
>total $
$540

I feel like the cpu and memory are absolute overkill but he insists he needs a "powerful pc" for his tiktok videos and it's well in the budget
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https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/KdYxqR

German here, is this build good or is this a complete fuck-up.
I am planning on using it with a 1920x1080 monitor and mainly use it for FFXIV Dawntrail and maybe other games if they run on it.
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>>100147217
imagine spending 600 eurocucks on a gpu and still running 1080p
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>>100144288
>adjustable fan
Is it possible to swap RAM without having to reapply thermal paste?
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>>100146495
her face is kinda fucked up
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>>100146782
7800x3d is miles ahead of any GPU you could own for the foreseeable future so this seems like a good call.
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>>100146495
thighs meat too thin
they are even thinner than her calves, why?
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>finally decide to upgrade my pentium G620
>manage to get a Xeon E3-1230 V2
>when I power on my machine start beeping
>1 long 8 short
>look it up in the motherboard manual
>VGA not detected
Wtf? I thought that the Xeon had integrated graphics, but it seems I am gonna need a GPU for it.
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>>100147710
unsubscribe
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>>100146495
I'm retarded and want to finally build a PC to escape console hell. if I just pick one of the things from each of the lists in the OP will I be good to go?
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>>100147123
>no gpu
Should be pretty solid anon, you uncle will enjoy gaming on integrated graphics
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>>100147954
he doesn't play videogames, that's why I picked the cpu with inegrated graphics.
He literally just uses it for web browsing but said he wants a powerful pc for whatever reason.
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>>100147217
Dude, at this price point, you might as well go for AM5. Plus, you'll easily be able to play current AAA games on high settings at 1440p and high frame rate.

Picrel is my build which I got late last year and it's only a 100€ more.
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Can you access the BIOS if you have a processor without a gpu say, 12400F or the like
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>>100147950
post budget country and use cases
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>>100147217
Isn't FF14 a CPU heavy game? I don't even know what you'd need that card for if you're just sticking to 1080p
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>>100147981
Which one should I pick then? Same as yours or something different?
>>100148023
Yeah, but I wanted to catch up on some games I couldn't play, like Kingdom Come, though I might not be able to play the second one that is coming this year.
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>>100148020
don't really want to spend more than $1500, but obviously the cheaper the better. in the US and I'm planning on using it for gaming. I'd like to be able to play newer games, but I'm fine if the settings aren't maxed as long as they run smooth
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>>100147981
>Expensive overpriced Gigashit motherboard
>Expensive overpriced outdated 980 Pro
>Overpriced 7800 XT
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>>100147950
>>100148052
Ignore OP, it's an AMD shill. Better to look at the previous OP which has better recommendations.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hY477R

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($195.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($140.10 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($97.97 @ B&H)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($789.99 @ Amazon)
Case: *Montech AIR 100 ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($63.90 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1490.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-23 14:54 EDT-0400
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>>100147982
See
>>100147710
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>>100148094
this is what I got going with the OP for this thread and just kinda choosing random things
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/czBKDZ
which is better?
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day 287 of waiting for battlemage
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>>100148142
Oh fuck, here we go
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Anyone using CPU AIO for a long time? Ever had a leak or other issue?
Can't decide between air cooling and AIO on ryzen 7950x3d
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>>100148164
I'm not trying to start shit. I just picked random things, so I'm guessing the one you posted is better
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>>100148142
Well you have much more SSD space and a slightly weaker CPU and GPU. You have allocated more to storage than most people here, but there's nothing wrong per se.
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>>100148171
>ryzen 7950x3d
Do you really need that CPU?
Probably AIO. AMD recommends it.
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>>100148200
>I'm not trying to start shit. I just picked random things, so I'm guessing the one you posted is better
I'm NTA that posted the other one, it's just that posting a build with a 7900 GRE will cause instant kvetching from the resident Nvidia shill
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what's the cool thermal paste again
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>>100148142
That really is a lot of $ on storage alone, are you sure you need that much space? If you do, consider a fast 1 TB drive and a much cheaper 3 TB drive.
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Will I get much of a benefit going for a 14700K over a 146000k for gaming? My GPU is going to be a 4070 TI. My friend recommended I get a 14700K, but I don't really know anything and just want a second opinion.
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>>100148276
The one that comes with your cooler. Stop wasting brainpower on thermal paste
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>>100148280
get a 7800X3D
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>>100148280
In 1440p, you'd get about a 5% increase in performance for a 16% increase in cost.
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Alright, >>100147217
got my build as is, should be fine ( I hope)
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>>100148280
Check benchmarks to verify yourself but generally no. Even with the deliberately CPU-bottlenecked settings reviewers use the difference is maybe 5%. You'll probably be running higher settings than those so would see even less in practice.
The one reason I would recommend the i7 (for gaming alone) is if you want to run a serious overclock. We're talking serious enough to disable the e-cores for cache ratio OC, mind you, not basic multiplier tweaking. In that scenario the i7 should have a bit more clock headroom and lets you keep 8x p-cores for those games that can utilize them.
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>>100148329
7800X3D has the same issue. It's about 8% better than a 14600K, but costs $83 (27%) more.
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>>100148371
I have already covered this here.
>>100148335
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>>100148385
Thank you for the image anon. It reinforces my point well.
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>>100148372
you should get the power savings over a year anyway and the 7800X3D will last longer.
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>>100146782
i just bought a 7800x3d, the OPs mainboard and ddr5 ram
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>>100148372
Indeed. Though the X3D chips can be radically faster in certain games. Often ones that are naturally CPU bound too. If you want to valuemaxx then you ought to consider the 12600K(F). Probably the cheapest CPU that could comfortably drive a 4070Ti.
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>>100148372
7800X3D has much better lows though so it should give a more consistent experience, it's also much easier to cool, not really shown on that chart above.
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Reminder you will need the BEST gaming gpu money can buy to even come close to not get bottlenecked by the 7800X3D and beyond
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i will stay on 1080p forever and you cant stop me
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>>100148566
STUCK IN 2010
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>>100148566
i'm 1440p and sometimes i lose track of my cursor...
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>>100148566
me too. but only because I dont want to replace my still working monitor
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>>100148566
i want 36" X-LED 165hz freesync premium pro pc monitors NOW
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Honest thoughts on this 4070s/7900gre comparison? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5ZlW69rAfw
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>>100148239
>need
Probably not. I want GPU passthrough, 2-3 NVMe SSDs.
Anyway, better question is: do I want that? And yes, yes I do. I'm not planning to upgrade for at least 5 years.

Need more anons to share their AIO experience.
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>>100148815
Seems basically in line with everybody else's results. A slight lead in raster for the GRE and, though not tested, a large lead for the 4070S in RT.
The consensus is that you buy the GRE if you genuinely don't care for either RT or DLSS and you buy the 4070S if you do. That's a fundamentally subjective assessment so there's no point arguing about it.
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any guides for undervolting the 7800x3d?
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Found a guy selling this 2nd hand PC for 60% of MSRP which is about 2k$ in my country.
Seems crazy good to me, can anyone give a quick look and tell me if this looks ok.

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D AM5 Box
Lian-Li Galahad AIO 360 Liquid Cooler White
Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX
Corsair DDR 5 32G (16Gx2) 6000 CL30 Vengeance RGB
Lancool 216R White Case
CoolerMaster 1250W MWE GOLD V2 (ATX3.0) Fully Modular
Sapphire NITRO+ RX 7900 XTX Gaming OC VAPOR-X 24GB GDDR6
Samsung SSD 2TB 990 PRO NVMe M.2
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>>100148915
Same as OC except you need to test low-load stability too. For example GPU-bound game benchmarks, browser benchmarks, and windows diagnostics. Throw on a "safe" offset and titrate it down until you encounter instability. After that you can try a per-core offset or just leave it. Frankly you might not even want to bother because that CPU is ridiculously efficient at stock.
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>>100149048
hmm any videos/written guides i could take as a blueprint?
i'd be fine with getting a couple degrees less heat
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pRmmZJ
just finished my first build, took too damn long but turned on and works, still for whatever reason worried something bad might happen lol
any noob horror stories to keep in mind?
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>>100149091
Congrats, first build always takes the most, to this day i get sweaty hands and take a whole day off doing nothing but building the pc
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>>100148226
>>100148277
I download a lot of films, so I figured the more space the better, but saying that I guess I can also expand later or just use external drives
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How do I know if a cooler is good enough, or overkill, for my cpu?
google told me about a thermal design power, but most coolers don't have this in the specs page.
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>>100149172
>google told me about a thermal design power, but most coolers don't have this in the specs page.
That's false. It's called TDP in the spec sheet usually.
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>motherboard offers m.2 22110 slot
>pretty much most of SSDs are 2280
Am I missing something? I am just curious about this form factor. My guess, it's thing of the past and most manufacturers managed to squeeze capacity inside 2280.
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>>100149064
There's this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/khtx1o/guide_zen_3_overclocking_using_curve_optimizer/
Goes into more detail than I did but the premise is the same. Offest, test, iterate. There's no esoteric knowledge that can substitute for actually testing /your/ CPU.
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>>100149203
They do not. Take this one for example
https://www.thermalright.com/product/peerless-assassin-120-se/
it doesn't say shit.
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>>100148979
great deal so long as it all works
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>>100149216
the extra space is often used on enterprise drives for capacitors for the ability to finish all queued writes in the event of power failure
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>>100148979
A lot of these parts are overkill, you won't notice much by paying the large premium. You can build a similar system for $1800 in the United States:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GfhfZJ

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($383.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($140.10 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($97.97 @ B&H)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($117.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card ($849.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case ($75.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Montech TITAN GOLD 850W 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1808.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-23 16:20 EDT-0400

So unless your local prices are wildly different I don't see it as that good of a deal.
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>>100149324
So that make hardly any use case for consumer grade?
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>>100149172
>>100149221
The cooler will list the socket compatibility. If it works for AM5 then it's safe to say it will cool a 5800X3D and 7800X3D. How well it will obviously depends on the rest of your setup and room temp.
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>>100148915
>>100149048

For my 7800X3D all I did was lower SOC voltage to 1.2 from 1.3, was I supposed to tinker with the PBO settings as well?
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>>100149466
You'd have been 100% fine leaving it stock. Any stable UV is just gravy.
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>>100149351
This kind of setup in my country would run about 3k$
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>>100149466
PBO is optional.
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>>100149573
It's a good deal then, just make sure there is no 'catch' you never know if something is broken when buying second hand
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>>100147558
her hip/butt is alien
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im the guy that was having issues with his new pc not booting after installing the drivers and the gpu fans not running. basically i went to bed, plugged my gpu power connection back (after testing just the MB), and it was able to boot. so i guess it was a 'turn it off and turn it back on' issue. the gpu fans still arent doing shit but the drivers are installed and its windows is running. i guess ill have to wait to see if when my game (aoe4) is done downloading to see if the gpu is good.
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I bought a new pc a few months ago. And now today it suddenly takes forever to shut down. Normally It would take maybe 5 seconds? And now 2+ min. I did another 3 shutdowns and the same every time. No windows updates pending, no errors. My screen stays on, doesn't go into standby, but is black. What could be causing this?
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>>100148094
>ignore OP, its an AMD shill
>instead listen to me, the NVIDIA shill
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>>100149947
Previous OP had balanced recommendations, retard. >>100140754
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>>100150003
>Avoid AMD cards
Yeah, perfectly balanced, as god intended.
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what happens if your gpu meets the recommended specs of a game but your cpu only hits minimum and you run highest settings?
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>>100149947
the nvidia OP is outdated. at least the AMD one is current as of 4/23/2024, April 23rd 2024.
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>>100150078
>Workstation
Seems reasonable in the context of giving broad advice. Nvidia is the standard in GPGPU applications. If you know your suite works with AMD you don't need the OP reccs.
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>>100150094
This will vary wildly from game to game, but assuming the specs are actually accurate then your CPU might bottleneck your CPU, but at high/max settings, the CPU bottleneck will be less than if you were to use lower settings, also, do not expect high FPS (more than 60 FPS) in any circumstance.
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For workstations, yes. Who puts AMD cards in workstations? Even geohot tried it, and got very very upset with AMD, to put it lightly.
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Geowho...?
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>>100150277
>buys gaming cards
>gets mad when he receives cards for gaming
sounds like he’s just a retard
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>>100150298
guy who hacked the iphone and ps3
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God I wish SLI was still a thing
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>>100147076
COVID ramped demand because everyone staying home wanted a computer, so prices skyrocketed due to dropped supply. Then after COVID, companies realized they could charge COVID prices and people would still buy the cards, and here we are.
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For the tech chads ITT, will future high-res monitors like 4k and UWHDQ (with a 3440x1440 dimension) be able to push out 360hz? Or is it a weird limitation?
I want to be able to enjoy the size while also having a high refresh rate (yes I know 240hz is already high), but only smaller monitors like 1080p are commonly able to push 240hz and above to 500hz.
My dream monitor is the Corsair XENEON FLEX 45-Inch 240Hz OLED at 2k USD (which is the only 3440x1440 that can support 240z to my knowledge), but I'd rather save money if I can get it years down the road at 360hz.
I want to use that 360hz as the basis for my future gaming rig when graphics cards also get upgraded in that time.
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>>100146495
Should I ignore the kvetching in the last thread and on Reddit about gkill ram heat spreaders or will I be fine
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>>100150259
he's right. AMD need to fix their hardware issues. its a gacha roll whether your driver will reset on 6000/7000 or you have to press the reset button.
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>>100150653
Should I believe*
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>>100150617
Yeah let us just get our crystal balls. I'll be back with you shortly
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>>100150617
the limitation is the display connection bandwidth
4k 240hz over hdmi 2.1 requires compression, displayport 2.1 can do it without compression but it doesn't have widespread support yet
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>>100150617
I find it highly unlikely that even the 5090 would be able to do anywhere near 4k 360hz unless MAYBE for e-sport titles that take very little computation power
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Just finished putting together a build and testing it out in my home, working great, but I need to invest in a monitor now. Could you guys gimme some options for what I should look at?

I want to get a 1440p Monitor for gaming. What I'm currently using is a single 1080p monitor from 6 years ago, and now that I have a strong build, I wanna see about upgrading my primary monitor.
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>>100146495
Whats up lately with this amd tryhard troon and his threads
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>>100150874
moderation on g barely exists. as far as pcbg goes, mods only took decisive action once threadripperfag started spamming the catalog
and even then it took mass manual reporting to get rid of him
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>>100150768
dell g2724d (buy on dell.com if you can't find it)
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CPU: Intel Core i5-14600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($294.00 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B760-PLUS ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($102.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card ($579.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1382.83

This is what I have so far. Any recommended changes? I'll be playing at 1440p. Preferably at 144fps. I don't mind turning the graphics down a little if it's not possible to get that resolution at that frame rate on Max settings.
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>>100150907
Cat pic threads poster was best
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>>100150874
>>100150907
Mimicry of the Nvidia OPs

Most people here understand the basic difference in value proposition between red and green and advice often reflects that. The ones who won't say a good word about the other side are very easy to spot and ignore.
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>>100146495
Holy fucking AMD shill cunt
Show me on the doll where NVIDIA hurt you, faggot
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>>100150949
>1440p. Preferably at 144fps
What games exactly? Might want to get a 4070 ti super at least, ideally a 4080, depending on the games ofc.
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>>100150949
>>100150999
Forgot to add: consider the 7900XT if you are willing to ignore Ray tracing
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>>100150949
>i5
>144 FPS gayming
Umm... Nyo, you're gonna need a 7800X3D for that and a faster GPU as the other anon said.
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>>100150961
i think it was the original cat pic OP who spammed threadripper's threads with pictures, pushing them to the bump limit. that was what got him so angry he started his spamming spree
fully justified of course, because threadripper kept splitting threads, his threads should have been removed for spam
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>>100150874
>>100150975
>>100150907
4chan is contrarian culture
its what gets replies
you are replying right now which is what op wants
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>>100150999
>>100151016
I mostly play fighting games. The most demanding games I'll end up playing regularly are probably Souls games, Monhun, and maybe Resident Evil, but that could change. As for Raytracing, I've never played anything that used it so I kind of want to use it and see what that's all about.
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>>100150874
There's nothing stopping you from making cat OP to hijack his thread though.
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>>100151091
contrarian culture gets stomped out real fast when mods actually start taking action, like on /ck/ for example
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>>100150874
Both the AMD and NVidia troons can go kill themselves for all I care
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>>100151102
cat OP never left, he's been creating a lot of the threads the last two months, perhaps even a majority
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you guys are losers for being here long enough to care about this whole shit

this is a pc building general
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>>100150975
>peace negotiation
Nvidia gpu paired with Amd cpu
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>>100151107
What should the mods here do? Surely you're not suggesting they ban shills lol
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>>100151134
Literally the last OP
It's linked in the current OP
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>>100151140
Last thread had a first post that said 'First'
Should have been removed for being extremely low quality at the very least, it never was.
>>100140759
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>>100151156
Well, did you make use of the site's functions? Or do you expect mods to monitor all threads at all times?
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>>100151097
If you only what to see what's about then you could get away with getting Radeon. Resident evil 4's RT is pretty shite and usually performs better on radeon, especially since there is no dlss support.
Nvidia vs. Radeon is a very emotional subject for a lot of anons here (there are a lot of shills on both sides). So don't get your info from these threads or Reddit. Try to look for unbiased reviews (or at least reviews from shills on both sides) and make your own decision based on that information. The correct decision will be ultimately subjective. Each brand has its own advantages and disadvantages over the other
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I want to buy a couple of 140mm fans for my build but why the fuck are they so expensive? A fucking fan you use for your room is cheaper. I can afford them, but paying the same I did for 1 TB of SSD storage for a toy fan leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
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>>100151220
get Phanteks, dipshit
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>>100151168
I'm not answering that question.
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>get a tuf vg27aq
>can't see shit during dark scenes
>can see your reflection during dark scenes
>the powerup button on the bottom right lights up the corner of the screen in a dark room
sigh...
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>>100151441
We told you to go WOLED
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>>100150259
amdbros????
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>>100150764
dlss has entered the chat
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>>100147976
With normalfags and boomers, when they mean "powerful PC" they just mean something that won't lag or visibly slow down while doing normalfag and boomer things. Might be better off getting him one these and shove it in an ATX case. It'll use less power and smaller to boot.

https://store.minisforum.com/products/minisforum-bd770i
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>>100151495
Quite possibly the worst thing to happen to gaming recently. Now devs will focus EVEN LESS on optimization because "hurr just turn DLSS on!"
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I’m never going to stop reeling over not getting a 2tb 990 pro for $90.00.
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>>100148171
You can either get a thermalright dual fan that will last forever and turn on curve optimizer in Ryzen master if it runs too hot (just test it with hwinfo64) or you get a cheap AIO. They don't leak but the radiators simply fail at a much higher rate than fans. If you get a 7800x3d you don't need to.
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>>100148372
The 7800X3D is a CPU that's simultaneously over and underrated since where it excels is not covered at all by current CPU testing methodology. A lot of people blindly recommend it because its "da best gaming CPU!!!!!" because X/Y/Z techtuber said so, but that ends up with conclusion like

>It's about 8% better than a 14600K, but costs $83 (27%) more.

which is true based on the benchmark result, but those benchmark are usage scenario that don't take advantage much of the large L3 cache. In those games (usually AAAslops) there's no reason to go the 7800X3D, but there's no reason to go the 14600K either when the 12600KF is $150 and will do the job, and the price difference is better spent on the GPU. If you play any kind of MMO/open world/simulation game with a heavy CPU load and memory latency requirement, the X3Ds are unmatched. Those usage case will never show up on benchmark though, because they're not easy to run tools for people who don't really play video games (reviewers)
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>>100151588
>better performance is... LE BAD!
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>>100148915
Its already a 65W part effectively. The 5800X3D has a ton of undervolting headroom because it was their first time making it and they were cautious. The 7800X3D is a 120W TDP part on paper that behaves like a 65W part in practice, if you manage to push it beyond 88W PPT (58W for CPU on monitoring software + 30W from the IO die), you've made techtube news, take a screenshot and send it to techjesus.

Just forget about the heat and adjust the fan curve so it doesn't ramp up full blast when it spikes to the 70s.
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I've been out of the game for a while, last time I checked upscaling was big right now with games coming out built around the technology. Are Nvidia way ahead of AMD and their FSR technology that's just not there yet? Im planing on getting a 7900xtx and hope by the time I'll need the tech they will catch up.
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>>100151722
FSR right now is undeniably trash
AMD has shown curated samples of FSR 3.1 that look like a big improvement but you should reserve judgement until its actually released.
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>>100151722
>Are Nvidia way ahead of AMD and their FSR technology that's just not there yet?
for games that are specifically supported, yes. dlss is objectively better than fsr. nvidia framegen is objectively better than fluid motion frames in games where they're put back to back.
but you can throw FSR and fluid motion frames at any game you own, DX11, DX9, doesn't matter. ARMA with frame interpolation? fuck yeah, hit that 120FPS multiplayer arma server high. you can't do that with nvidia because while their solution is better in a direct comparison, it's curated enough that you can't just throw it at the wall and see if it sticks.
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>>100151441
>get a C3
>can see every minuscule detail and appreciate every nuance in colors and shades even in dark scenes due to infinite contrast and perfect blacks
>able to appreciate your handsome self in your shiny new mirrory display
>smile confident you made the right purchase
>>the powerup button is on a premium feeling controller
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Does the choice of SSD make much of a difference in performance or do I just pick whichever has the best capacity/price ratio?
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>>100152048
>Does the choice of SSD make much of a difference
No. But don't buy the cheapest shit you can find.
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>>100152048
>Does the choice of SSD make much of a difference in performance
Nope
>do I just pick whichever has the best capacity/price ratio?
This, and pick one sooner than later because NAND makers are raising prices to make up for selling at losses recently.
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>>100146495
>amd shill
>mona
Fuck you, you can't even afford her services. Only 4090 chads can satisfy her.
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>>100150763
>yet
Alright, I can wait 5 or even 10 more years then to play cyberpunk at max settings with huge fps then.
Even if it means melting the northern and southern ice caps.
>>100150764
>highly unlikely that even the 5090 would be able to do anywhere near 4k 360hz
So you're saying I should wait on the 6090 or even then 7090 then?
>>100151495
While I think DLLS should be mandatory now, it'd be stupid of them to think that they can skimp over base performance and rely on just DLLS.
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>>100150949
>CPU: Intel Core i5-14600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($294.00 @ B&H)

If you care mainly about games, 7800x3d has been on sale for $300 several times in the past at microcenter. Even if you dont have a microcenter you can pricematch best buy.

>Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($102.99 @ Amazon)

You can save some bucks if you get the teamgroup classic and manually tune yourself. Its the same hynix shit.
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>>100152101
nahida is the 4090
mona is the GRE
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>>100147123
Get a cheap gpu and slap it in, Radeon rx 560s are like 50$ on ebay it will look far more crisp. the non integrated versions of intel are a bit cheaper anyway
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hey everyone! is it better to game at 1440p or 4k? is 4k just a meme or worth it? was thinking of getting a 7800 X3D and 7900 GRE for 1440p gaming since I felt like it would be an improvement from 1080p?
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>>100146495
Aside from the parts regularly mentioned in the sticky, what else do I- as a first-timer- need before I can start putting together a PC? Do I need an anti-static mat to assemble it on? Do I actually need to ground myself with the PSU? Should I have extra thermal compound on-hand just in case? What about a soldering iron?
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>>100152588
>Do I need an anti-static mat to assemble it on?
No, just set the motherboard on top of the cardboard box it comes in.
>Do I actually need to ground myself with the PSU?
It's a good idea to touch something metal before to start building or if you take a break and come back to it but you're not going to building up a charge while working on it (it's not a good idea to do it on a carpeted floor).
>Should I have extra thermal compound on-hand just in case? What about a soldering iron?
The only parts you need other than what the OP listed are a screw driver, keyboard, and mouse.
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>>100152639
>It's a good idea to touch something metal before to start building or if you take a break and come back to it
Would a doorknob do or am I missing something?

>it's not a good idea to do it on a carpeted floor
What about a rug over a hardwood floor?
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>>100152639
Ive built my last 5 five computers directly on thick carpeting and never had a problem.
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>>100152588
>first time builder
no soldering required. all you usually need are different size philips heads. don't use a drill for anything on your board. drill is fine for like fan screws, psu screws, drive trays, maybe PCIe lane screws but it's easy to strip those with a drill.
you ust need a ball of thermal paste for the cpu die.
static isn't a big deal but maybe it's a good idea to not put your pc on a rug or something.
depending on what parts you have you may need a fan or rgb splitter but it's unlikely.
don't forget to take off the plastic film from the bottom of any NVMe heatsink you have.

as far as building process goes i would suggest you start with any external case fans you may have (read about fan orientation i.e. outake or intake). you want positive pressure.
then install cpu/ram/nvme in mobo, then screw in case screw risers for mobo, then put in mobo and screw it down, then cpu cooler/aio and psu, gpu only after you've plugged everything in.

don't zip tie anything until everything is screwed down. feeding cables in ways that make sense ahead of time helps making cable management less time consuming. make sure you orient components in a way where cables can route to places that make sense, namely the back of your pc, out of the way from the front and bundled/zip tied at the end.

you will probably fuck up the fpanel headers because theyre small and sometimes aren't labeled. read your mobo manual.
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>>100152176
>Check Microcenter
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006645/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-v2,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle
>sold out at the only microcenter near me
I hope Bestbuy pricematches bundles.
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>>100152466
1080p for performance
1440p for balance
4k for quality
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>>100152873
1200p for actual use
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>>100152689
>Would a doorknob
NTA. Yes. No meme. As long as the doorknob is grounded (which they usually are)
>>100152689
>What about a rug over a hardwood floor
Not ideal either. Basically the same.
However, in reality it is very hard to do major damage to any components by a static discharge. It's more or less a precaution measure. In practice you could probably build it anywhere no elastic band or grounding and you would be fine. Don't do that though. Why would you risk expensive equipment for a minor annoyance
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>>100152834
>>100152588
also the side of a fan that looks better and doesn't have a visible cable is usually the side that is intake or sucking air in
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>>100150653
The criticism about the lack of thermal pad on the PMIC is true, but it only matters if you're manually OCing it.
https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/10497/skill-ripjaws-s5-ddr5-6400-32gb-dual-channel-memory-kit/index.html
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>>100151441
Newer VA panels are better than IPS, MSI released a 0.5ms 180Hz VA monitor with 5000:1 contrast ratio.
They're all probably bullshit but I'm waiting for reviews.
https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MAG-27CQ6F/Specification
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>>100151616
Never waitfag™ if you spot a good storage drive deal.
Normies with laptops, companies, & prosumers buy up good NVMe drives, the demand for them is on a different scale compared to graphics cards.
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>>100153021
>Brightness: 300 Nits
gtfo with this piece of shit
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>>100153118
It's good enough, you don't need eye-searing brightness.
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>>100153155
>he doesn't game out in the yard, under midday's sun
Faggot.
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I got the ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 and a 1TB SSD. Did I fuck up? It says there's only 1 M.2 slot, aka I can't have another SSD?
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>>100153282
>not doing your research
Your board has two M.2 slots for storage and one for a wifi card
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>>100153282
It has room for two and you could add a third with an adapter card
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Just out of curiosity, why aren't liquid cool GPUs more prevalent? It just doesn't make sense to me when liquid aio cpu coolers are so widely available and affordable.
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>>100153364
Phew. I got scared because the store page implied it has only 1 slot. I need 1 for my OS, one for my games and an HDD for all my porn
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>>100153407
Standardization
There are AIO coolers you can get for gpus but the variations of layouts is huge so they're going to cost more because economies of scale.
For a CPU you just need a mount to fit a small flat square, but every GPU is going to have different layouts for the VRM/Memory/Die which all need cooling.
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>>100153407
CPU coolers use standardized brackets defined by Intel and AMD.
GPU coolers are defined by the board partners which is why there's a clusterfuck of cooling blocks for GPU boards, and why a lot of companies only support Nvidia Founder's Edition cards or reference boards to keep things simple.
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>>100146495
>>100152230
mona my beloved
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ISP charges more for unlimited data if you're using your own equipment. I'm thinkin about paying the extra cost, then running a 4k stream 24/7 to fuck them over.
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>>100153421
Worst comes to worse, you can get a SATA SSD for your games to go alongside your gooner HDD. I personally haven't noticed a difference between my 860 Evo and 980 Pro for gaming.
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>>100153527
I've heard of ISPs charging more for using their equipment, but never the other way around. Makes me wonder if they're running some data collection scheme on the loaner stuff.
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>>100153571
They're running a public wifi network off the rented equipment. Likely gives them even more access to harvest data and sell it, but I don't know too much about that.
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>>100153407
It's more of a hassle for everyone involved, that's why liquid-cooled variants have a price premium.
The card manufacturers also don't provide long-term support for these water-cooled cards, I think only EVGA provided an option to buy a compatible video card AIO.
You see plenty of guys here using their VGA for over five years, that's not as likely to happen with a water-cooled video card.
It's also harder to resell these products after you've used them.
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>>100153407
liquid cooling is a bad joke and has never made sense
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>>100152639
>not a good idea to do it on a carpeted floor
do you mean "don't put it together on the floor like a fucking LEGO set" or can static electricity still accumulate and potentially damage my components even if I'm doing the assembling on a wooden desk?
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What motherboard would you recommend for a 7800X3D? I'd like something in the 100 or 120 USD range.
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>>100147710
Vote in me for president cause I am a retard.
It seems only Xeons ending in a 5 (e.g. E3-1245 V2, E3-1245 V2, etc) have integrated graphics. Don't know where I got it from that the E3-1230 had them.
Well, that still leaves the issue of needing a GPU. Any suggestions?
Specs are:
>the aforementioned Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2
>H61H2-M2 equivalent motherboard
>Cooler Master I30
>2x 8 GB DDR3 1600Hz RAM
>256 GB SSD + 500 GB HD
>Redragon RGPS 500W
I have a generic 1920x1366 60Hz 10 years old monitor (still has a VGA connector) if that is important. My budget is flexible but I rather not burn too much more money in this setup.
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>>100154080
MSI PRO B650M-P
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>>100154080
Asrock B650M HDV/M.2 (seems to be out of stock, given that its only available at an inflated price from 3rd party sellers). If you can't wait, the B650M Pro RS is a little more expensive, but its still in the rough range.
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is 7900 GRE nitro+ worth it over a 7800XT nitro+, its 10% more expensive
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I7 12700k feels so good
next PC will be DDR6 hopefully
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>Want a white 4070ti
>It's 80 dollars more than a black one
>Consider going down to a 4070 super since the cheapest white super is only $20 more
>consider going with a 4070 TI super because a white one is only $40 more
I can't believe I'm letting aesthetics influence my build...
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>>100154503
7900-7800 = 100
550-500 = 50
100 for 50 is breddy gud
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>>100154762
listen to jensen's words
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does the 7800x3d not support ddr5 6000??
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>>100151715
>>100149478
>>100149219
thanks guys
i'll look into undervolting after some tests at stock then!
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How do you find a decent monitor for gaming?
The tech is there to make some high spec things, but the prices of the old standard just stay the same.
What would you all recommend? I've got a 1080p 144Hz monitor right now that I want to add to. would it be better to just double up on the same specs, or should I try and go higher resolution?
Obviously, I'll be using it for gaming, but I also do 3D art, and programming.

I don't really have a budget for this, but I just want a good deal. I'll decide if it's even worth getting after I see if I'm missing something.
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How do i find out if the cpu or gpu is bottlenecking my pc?
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4090 or Wait for 5000
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>>100154968
Am I about to buy a big mistake?
This seems good enough for what I need.
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>>100155053
>KTC
literal hooo
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>>100155066
That's what I'm worried about. It might be just some korean slop where the pixels have lifespans measured in days.
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>>100154994
download presentmon, configure it to show gpu busy, gpu wait, cpu busy and cpu wait, run the games you want to run and see the results

assuming you're not running an framerate cap or running into an some other bottleneck like a game engine bottleneck you'll see one or the other with more wait or more busy than the other, high gpu wait with high cpu busy means it's bottlenecked by the cpu, high cpu wait and high gpu busy means it's gpu bottlenecked
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>>100155105
Thank you!
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>>100154937
It's an unofficial speed, same as a 5800x3d is rated for 3200 but you can use 3700-3800 ddr4
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>>100155053
>32" 1440p monitor
yes
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>>100155053
>people will really spend 200 for that shit
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>>100155160
wrong

32" 1440p is the absolute sweetspot
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>>100155160
is MSI any better?
I'm looking at the MSI G273CQ
It's 27 inches. 1440p, 170Hz with FreeSync for $180.
Reviews are generally really good, but I'm not sure if that's just because it's good for the price.
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>>100155266
>is MSI
fuck around and fight out
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Gigabyte B760M DS3H DDR4 to 77€ or MSI PRO B760M-A WIFI to 90€?
It is for a 12700k (which sells to me for €190) that I am upgrading from a 11400F
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>>100155322
Both are kinda mediocre, decent DDR4 Z690 boards has dropped down in price by a lot. What else is available in that range?
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>>100155322
you can't run a 12700k on a shit vrm like that.
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>>100155266
I think Newegg is judging me.
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How long does a good AIO last? I'm going to make a new build when the 5000 series drops, and I will probably not upgrade for 5 to 7 years after that. Will it last that long?
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>>100155474
probably
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>>100155474
>and I will probably not upgrade for 5 to 7 years after that.
and other lies we tell ourselves.
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>>100155418
Of course you can, the mid-range motherboard has enough VRM for those processors, even more so if you don't plan to do any overclock, it would be exaggerated to put an i9 on it (especially the 13th and 14th gen) it would still be able to handle it. Apart from that (although with AMD) I have seen Ryzen 9 on cheap b550 boards and it works quite well today.
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>>100155474
They're usually warranted for 5-7 years which means the actual average lifespan will be a bit longer. Maybe 10? Though ofc things get tricky to judge that far out.
IMO you shouldn't push them much beyond the warranty period because one failure mode, that is leaking, is so catastrophic. Yes it's a super rare thing but it can destroy the entire PC. False economy.
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>>100155474
why would you use an AIO?
are you a masochist?
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What do you think?
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>>100155809
>2*8GB of slow DDR5
Might as well get DDR4. Unless your main workload is wholly bandwidth determined.

The other components are fine enough. Not fast by modern standards but serviceable.
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>>100154968
Your choices seem to be VA panels.
Avoid cheap VA panels. Just moving your mouse on a dark background turns your cursor yellow. And the smearing in games is pure awfulness.
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>>100155896
what would be considered cheap for a VA panel?
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>>100155914
it doesnt really matter.
get whats cheapest, its all trash
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>>100155914
nta but AFAIK there's only a few VAs fast enough to avoid smearing. Off the top of my head there's the Samsung G7 and Gigabyte FV43U. Plus rebrands of same. You should look for technical testing of that KTC to see if it's using one of those fast panels. I kind of doubt it because the two I mentioned are $500+ but it's possible they're repackaging mildly defective panels at a steep discount.
With that said, your use-case and budget basically scream "IPS". Doing 3D work on a curved screen is sketchy at best. There's plenty of decent 1440/144 IPS monitors in the $200 range now. The panel tech makes up most of the difference between them so they're all pretty similar. Get one with the features you want and check a review or two to confirm.
Going by https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=256001440&F=355600000,711200000&D=144000,540000&P=2&sort=price&page=1
The standout at $200 seems to be the Dell G2724D due to its significantly better than average contrast. Just don't use the "HDR" mode.
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>>100156022
You would have to be stupid to buy the Samsung G7.
heard so many horror stories, from panel lottery to monitors dying within months.
Gigabyte i dont know anything about but seems shit
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>>100156036
Agreed. Samsung's QC is awful; I was just pointing it out as an example of a fast VA. Definitely wouldn't recommend it now that OLEDs are getting close to $700.
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>>100156058
yep.
if you buy a new LCD now you honestly deserve to get fucked by QC and panel issues
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>>100156036
Gigabyte's G27/M27 are usually the most recommended budget gaming monitors by reviewers.
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>>100155809
Depends on what ur doing but w a high end GPU youll probably not be CPU bound for the foreseeable future
Get better ram like other anon said also w heatsinks if possible, whatever max your CPU supports
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guess I'm not buying shit from ADATA again
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>>100156094
those are IPS, not VA
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>>100146495
mona my beloved
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>>100156323
G27 has a VA version. M27 doesn't have one though
https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/G27QC
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should I just get a used 3070 (ti) over a 4060?
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Flat or curved?
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>>100156648
Avoid curved like a plague.
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>>100146495
>i5 14600K
>Corsair Vengeance DDR5 2x16GB 7200CL34
What would be a good motherboard if I want this CPU/RAM?
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>intlel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yatSqh5hRA
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>>100151616
I bought an unsealed 990 pro 4TB for $150 a couple of months ago anon, you fucked up.
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>>100156281
Better make an image of it while you still can
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHB46F5fjJU

INTEL XeSS 1.3 WON

AYYMDEAD CAN'T INTO AI TECHNOLO/g/Y
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>>100157350
thankfully i didnt have much on it, it used to be a windows drive but once I started getting BSODs I quickly moved everything to my nvme.
I think its fucked now.
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Yesterday I shat myself thinking my 4080s is artifacting. Turns out this is a red dead redemption glitch and only happens in cutscenes with particle effects set to ultra instead of high. No other games past 3 months since i built it (cyberpunk, baldurs gate, tarkov) do this. Though it left a sour taste in my mouth. Should I do some sort of testing, even though I have received 0 problems of this kind with any other game?
temps are 64c average playing RDR2 at ultra. Hotspot average is like 73.
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>>100157480
>gaying faggotry on your computing device.
>muh ass
that's what you get for being a fag.
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>>100157480
I had a diffferent glitch with RDR2 where I thought my GPU was dying. Suddenly a black void would appear randomly. It' never happened with any other game, only RDR2. It's probably just that game.
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>>100157359
You can use Xess on Nvidia GPU's?
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>>100157528
Googling it seems RDR2 has like 5 different graphical glitching that are identical to GPUs giving out. Jumpscare game. Did you do any sort of testing (furmark, etc) or did I just not see it appear in any other game and said good enough?
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>>100157480
>>100157569
This is hilarious
You guys are experiencing a game glitch
But are scared and confusing it for a hardware/driver error
This is what AMD goes through everyday and it happens to people on 4000 series daily now.
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>>100157569
I didn't test shit, my 2080 still works. It's just RDR2 it would sometimes have an issue with.
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>>100157411
I don't trust ADATA or it's sub brand XPG
they're a worse version of Teamgroup
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>>100156067
Wtf, why? What if you are 18, you don't have a good monitor yet, and you are finally building your first PC? Fuck you.
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>>100155887
what do you mean it's slow? it's 5200mhz
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>>100157643
I'm glad it's at least funny. It is my first build so I'm quite paranoid about everything. Like you said everything points to it being a game glitch, but how can you tell just from a screen grab? Is this not how interfacing looks?
>>100157646
thanks for the reply anon
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>>100152831
>75000 refresh rate
Wtf
Can you even reach 75000 FPS in any game?
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>>100157643
>everyday
Every day*
If something happens every day, it is an everyday occurrence.
Faggot
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>>100157742
That type of artifacting would be memory related if it was a older GPU but newer GPUs have ECC like correction so instead of seeing green artifacts you just get worse fps. If it's showing up it's a game glitch.
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>>100157765
Pokemon red emulated
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>>100157773
Huh I see. I always thought artefacting would show up as colored dots/pixels/squares.
Well nice to know it's fine then. Thank you anon!
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Are Silicon Power nvmes fine? They have the best TBW warranty of the budget ssds.
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>>100158284
>Silicon Power
Get anything else. Crucial, Samsung, SK Hynix, Sabrent, etc.
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>>100158284
Not from what I've seen, get a Solidigm P41 if you want a budget NVMe
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https://www.centrecom.com.au/sapphire-amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-pulse-24gb-ddr6-graphics-card

1080ti died in a move what do? these only like 850usd posted need something to last until 8900xtx next year or intels whatever

not going with nvidia again too expensive and really hasnt made a gpu ive been interested in since the 1080ti or 2080ti i had
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Retarded first timer here, does this build make sense? https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/hKFRxH
I want something that can run single players games like Baldur's gate 3, Kingdom come deliverance etc that I can't play on my current shitty prebuilt. I have a 75hz 1080p monitor that I'm not planning on changing. I'm also interested in local Mixtral 7b . Budget <1000eur Finland, I'd like to get lower but don't know where to go cheaper or if I should.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (€132.90 @ Jimm's)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€64.90 @ Jimm's)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B550M-A WIFI II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€130.90 @ Jimm's)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€86.90 @ Jimm's)
Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€69.90 @ Jimm's)
Video Card: Asus DUAL V2 Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card (€229.90 @ Jimm's)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case (€120.90 @ Jimm's)
Power Supply: Corsair RM650 (2023) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€102.90 @ Jimm's)
Total: €939.20
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>>100158698
How much are used 6700XTs in Ausland? Should be enough to hold you over until next year but idk what the used market conditions are like over there.
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>>100158779
fucked i saw a 79xt used for 500usd months ago
had a 69xt i had to firesale 3 years ago sadly
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>>100158715
First off, you don't need an AIO to cool a Ryzen 5600, get a cheap tower cooler like an ID-COOLING SE-214 XT
>ANUS
get an ASRock board, better feature set for about the same price
Memory is fine, but your NVMe choice sucks, if you want a cheap one get a Solidigm (SK Hynix's sub brand) P41
Is there anyway you can squeeze a 6650 or 6700XT for the GPU? 6600 is getting long in the tooth
Case and power supply are good
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>>100158789
Damn, that blows.
Any reason why you wouldn't take the 79XTX and keep it for the long haul? Seems like a better plan that relying on the used market over there.
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>>100158698
What about 7900 GRE? how much they goin for down undah?
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>>100158715
In your place I would bump up the gpu to a 6650XT or 3060 12GB.
I would get the money from using a cheap air cooler instead of the AIO. That is complete overkill for a 5600 which can run even with its stock cooler.
picrel is entry level GPUs from .fi partpicker.
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>>100158861
boredom
lack of gf
autism
waiting on meta quest 3/4 or vision to get stupid cheap
might render ai in the meantime idk getting insurance to pay for this and a 75" 120hz tv anyways
>>100158878
literally cheaper to buy a 79xtx
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>>100158938
>literally cheaper to buy a 79xtx
Wait what? That's completely fucked, it's fucking weaker than the 79xtx
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>>100159000
yep literally 200usd difference and i mainly want more vram
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>>100158715
https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/hj2Xz6

BG3 is fairly CPU heavy so I specced a 5700X3D, else drop it down to a 5600 and get a better GPU. Other changes are just sanity check fixes.
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>>100159038
Well you might as well pull the trigger on the 79xtx considering it will probably be faster than the RDNA4 top card
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>>100159057
wait what? cool ! ill go beg mummy moneyboobags
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>>100159067
No you're catching on, it is the American way after all
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>>100158924
Looking at this, I would probably give the A750 a shot, the drivers are getting better with every release, as is XeSS and they'll be releasing their frame gen tech soon
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>>100159184
latch onto her large old nipples kek
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>>100159219
She'll reward you for it
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>>100159057
>Well you might as well pull the trigger on the radeon vii considering it will probably be faster than the RDNA top card
bad advice all around
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>>100159249
Except Vega was a shit arch designed by an overhyped street shitter
AMD have already confirmed they're not aiming for the high end and the 79xtx is the last high-end GPU they will be making, the generational improvements will be minimal
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So is integer scaling a meme or is that a viable option someone can take advantage of if they have a GPU that can support it? (Mainly talking about playing at 1080p on a 4k monitor)
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After all... why shouldn't I buy a new PC right now? Intel+Nvidia specifically.
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>>100159292
from what I've read other anons post who use it, it is a viable option
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>>100159247
MOMMY MILK
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>>100159278
The last good amd uarch was rdna2
Rdna3 is streetshitter trash
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>>100159323
So what can I expect realistically? Will a game look better than using a native 1080p screen since there is more pixel information to work with.
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>>100159336
Only the best for you baby
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>>100159315
13th and 14th gen is pretty mild
Degradation issues, unstable stock clocks out of the gate, inconsistent xmp and IO lag that older cpus intel just don't have... the list goes on
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>>100159429
she loves her titties sucked
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>>100159441
zens been dogshit its entire run my 59x would not oc at all my 136k has been nothing but smooth
ddr4 tho
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>>100159337
Incorrect, 79xtx is faster than the 6950xt
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>>100159513
The i5s are clocked very far away from the edge of stability so those are fine
Its the i7 14700k, i9 13900k and i9 14900k that are running way past what they're capable of and having stability issues
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>>100159500
Any woman worth their weight does
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>>100159581
It launched late, barely matches ampere in RT, and had severe hardware flaws that caused it to miss performance target
Its a FUBAR of a product
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>>100159513
The 59XX series is a workstation series, you're a fucking idiot for buying one thinking it would overclock well
5800X3D shits on your i5
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>>100159592
shes a big girl
>>100159614
had a 5600x it was shit
>>100159587
yeah i avoided those espeically the high end ones because i was sick of 300w housefire gpus and wasnt especially looking forward to 300w housefire cpus AGAIN
the 59x for it day actually used less power than my 136k but was alot slower
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>>100159601
>it launched late
good shit takes time to make, also QC
>several hardware flaws that caused it to miss performance target
Such as? AMD was late to the game when it came to ML and RT bullshit, miss me with that bullshit nigger
>It's a FUBAR or a product
24% performance improvement over the 6950xt is the opposite of FUBAR
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>>100159655
>I had a 5600X, it was shit
In what way? Currently sporting a 5700X rn ong fr fr
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>>100159655
>>100159614
13600K performs better than 5800x3d
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>>100159699
>>100159699
>>100159699
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>>100159655
>she's a big girl
For you
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>>100159587
the 9950X is gonna have the same problem.
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>>100159685
nocap its slow in certain games
>>100159707
if i took off her bra would she plop?
>>100159695
which is why i chose one over a x3d
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>>100159695
lol lmao even, imagine being so delusional you actually believe this
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>>100159717
What games?
>if I took off her bra would she plop?
It would be very delightful
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>>100159740
for boobs
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So I adjusted some things from feedback last week, $200 over budget, but this is where I finally landed.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K4PPTY
Only thing I'm iffy on is paying so much for a 1000Watt power supply, but future upgradability and reliability are key so I think I'm stuck at that expensive price.
Anything drastically wrong before I start ordering?
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>>100159740
bng
ac
ac2
forza h3 fm7
old shit mainly wunna hit 8k downscaled to 4k 120hz
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>>100159797
Sound more like a GPU issue considering what resolutions you're playing at
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>>100159922
indeed
titties
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>>100159995
what is your GPU btw?
Milkers
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>>100160059
atm? 1050ti m 1060 and 2060m
rip 1080ti



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