>Only hires American citizens>Employees are 95% white males>Decent paycheck>Overtime pay available>Private offices>Laid-back atmosphere>Tons of available positions>Easy to transition to private sector afterwards and make a FAGMAN salary>With a clearance you can potentially make more then FAGMAN>Get to work on cool projects>Did I mention no pajeets?>Offices are usually in LCOL or MCOL areasWhy do zoomers always cry about no job opportunities when the answer lies right in front of them? Take the defense contractor pill. It will give you a lot of valuable life experience. It's where I started, and now I have a comfy WFH consulting job.
>fulfilling contracts earmarked for israelyou will burn in hell next to steve jobs
>>100168368>interview for Raytheon>they do a background check>find all anon's edgy 4chan ironic posts he made 10 yrs ago>they take them seriously>anon gets put on no fly list>nice taste in tranny porn though, you got potential>give him a job at the DMV
>>100168368found some cool military battle simulators and other shit on an ftp server owned by a raytheon guy a while back
>>100168368military tech is decades behind private sector, everything that can be outsourced (i.e. everything but the tiniest export controlled parts of the code) to the shittiest of contractors (indians) will be, nobody will think raytheon looks good on a resume, private office because you'll be locked in and can't bring your phone, live next to air force base in bumfuck nowhere, have to get regularly molested to maintain clearance, pay still isn't particularly good
>>100168368its kinda cool till you realize that you can bill 2mil a year going solo contractor once you have clearance
>>100168368Do they really let you recruit like this lol
>>100168394Good morning rabbi! Yes, you are right. The only hope for the white man is to move to Mumbai and work for a WITCH company!>>100168455Good morning Ivan!>>100168524There are tons of different contracts and you are trying to generalize based on second hand accounts. All the contracts I worked on used modern tech stacks. Most of my former co-workers now have comfy private sector jobs. You sound like either an underage leftist or a seething europoor.
>>100168368>sell your soul (and asshole) to big daddy govt>get paid less than a private sector worker with similar qualifications + experienceno thank you
>>100168586>Once you have a clearanceYep. Now how do you get a clearance? You work at a defense contractor for a couple years.>>100168609How exactly is working for anything in the US not directly or indirectly supporting "big daddy govt"? You're a fucking idiot
>>100168368based.>>100168609if you pay taxes, you're already a soulless goy being buttfucked by the government. Might as well make money.
>>100168620yeah thats what im saying lol
>>100168980>if you pay taxes, you're already a soulless goy being buttfucked by the government. Might as well make money.nah, they're not comparable. paying taxes is like paying for a ticket to go to disneyland (the price of living in a civilized society). being a gov employee is like being the guy at the park wearing the unwashed, sweaty goofy suit that gets humiliated for a living
>>100169042>the price of living in a civilized societyin some countries, maybe. Not in the US.the "guy in the Goofy suit" analogy doesn't work either because OP isn't advocating for you to become a DMV clerk. You're the guy chilling in the office, designing the next billion-dollar ride.
>>100168601just found it looking through chinese shodan, IWARS and VR-Forces are interesting even though i barely know how to use them
>>100168601did they get rid of the critical race theory program yet?
I refuse to sharpen any of the Beast's claws.
>>100168368I have a masters degree in IT Security management, a CISSP and CISM. I also have an extreme amount of debt and would never pass a security clearance because of it.
>>100168368serious cope if you think working for a defense contractor gives the same pay as FAGMAN
>>100169360You would be surprised how forgiving they can be with security clearances. Tons of people with clearances have debt, lol. Drugs are also a minor issue.
>>100169373>Zoomer reading comprehension skillsNever did I say that. Especially with a starting defense contracting salary. However, getting a clearance DOES open up doors to allow you to make more then FAGMAN.
>>100169379I do plan on clearing all of my debt in the next few months once I ditch my bitch of a wife. Maybe in a year I'll try for a clearance job.Not like I'm poor right now. Making bank in Healthcare as an IT Security Admin
>>100169379don't forget retards like jack texeira
>>100169399Oh I'll also add, in the Healthcare sector nobody knows what I do since I'm a one-man team. Most days I do absolutely nothing and work from home. I laughed in my boss's face my last 20K raise because this shit is hilarious.
>>100168368Im a Canadian citizen. Its over
>>100169450Working in defense contracting can be like that too if you get placed on a small contract. Your boss can't know what you're doing, so you can do whatever you want. Imagine your in an office he literally can't enter. I used to shitpost and play WoW while working, kek.
>>100168368I'm too much of a schizo to get past the initial screening process. Best I can attempt is public service work at city offices
>>100169470Also, with how inefficient the government can be, the work is very on and off in bursts. A huge task may come in and you'll be busy for a couple months, and then the next year you may just be chilling and spitting shit with your coworkers waiting for the next task. Again, highly depends on the contract you're working on.
>>100169511How so? Defense contracting is full of schizo incel 4chan types unironically, you'd fit right in
>>100168368I'm graduating at the end of this year, how do I get a comfy defense contractor job?
>>100169601Through the typical channels. LinkedIn or getting in contact with a recruiter directly is your best bet, because they want to get their referral fee gibs. Applying online is most likely to get ignored because HR doesn't get said referral bonus. Job fairs or recruitment events are good too. You can literally just connect with a recruiter on LinkedIn and ask them about open positions if you're too autistic to do anything in person.
>>100168368How is the total compensation compared to FAGMAN?
>>100169208Contractors don't get subjected to that shit since the Government understands that contractors actually have to do work. Meanwhile military and civilians have to go through suicide prevention powerpoints and other bullshittery every year.
meanwhile in Germany: >defense is only accessible if you sign up for 10 years of military service>tech stacks are literally from the 80s>money sucks assI envy you americans. My brother has a master degree in rocket engineering and ended up not being hired by space-x because he's not an American citizen. Rockets are considered weapons technology apparently. It's like you guys already forgot Werner von Braun, shame on you american pigs.
>>100169717Blame your German bureaucracy for the 10 year nonsense. And yes, rockets are weapons technology. Werner Von Braun became a US citizen and gave up his German citizenship, which is standard in this case, and your brother could've done the same. The US and Germany work on the same shit through five eyes. You shouldn't expect gibs from our government. Fix your own shit, Hans. We already fund half your government while you literal retards are building windmills and defacing entire cities with open face coal mines simultaneously.
>>100168368picrel
>>100169767>your brother could have done the sameah yes, sure, where is the office where one can exchange a german passport for an american one again? And yes, I'm aware we are ruled by retards. You should know the feeling John, your government turns away qualified German Engineers while Pajeets and Mexicans simply walk into your country. Make that make sense.
>>100169848https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/apply-for-citizenshiphttps://www.germany.info/us-en/service/03-Citizenship/germancitizenship-renunciation/937754Do you niggers not learn basic government functions in Germany?
>>100168368Can I smoke weed when I am at home? Or will they piss test me like assholes. I need it for my migraines.
>>100169876I only got piss tested once during my initial interview. Never had random drug tests or anything of the sort.
>>100169875You guys are so ignorant of how the world works, it's kind of cute. I do like you guys anyway, but fuck you for blowing up our gas pipeline.
>>100169939Says the one who has to rely on america to provide you with jobs and military equipment. Fucking kek. Keep building those clean energy windmills, Hans. And don't forget to pay your good got tax. Those mudslime and Slav refugees are going to need a place to stay.
>>100169885It's going to take me a very long time to piss clear, and the migraines will be hell. I even have the medical pot card for my state. Also, I refuse to move from Hawaii.
>>100170104Just drink and abuse prescription painkillers like everyone else in defense
>>100169963>Germany has to rely on America to provide you with jobsSure thing, bud. I'm from Stuttgart, you might have heard of it, the birthplace of the car? Where Mercedes and Porsche have their headquarters? The only good engineering you guys had has always been done by Nazis, now don't fool yourself negro.
>>100170104just replace the weed with LSD then
>>100170137Cool thing, bud. You may have heard of this thing called the modern global economy. The entire thing relies on America! And the crazy thing is, I don't have to open a history book to learn about it!
>>100170131I can't drink because of epilepsy meds. Also that shit just makes the migraines worse later. Opiods also make me constipated.Also, I will come to work blasting reggae every day.>>100170140That would certainly be an "interesting" time.
>>100169399>Making bank in Healthcare as an IT Security AdminThey still use punch cards or are you not high up enough for that? US healthcare system is held together by gum and twigs from the 1800s.
>>100170104based hawaii memer, would really like to move there one day, i don't see why it's not more populated. place is literally paradise (except for misquotes)
>>100171256Depends which island, there's also a bunch of land set aside as nature reserve or simply not to piss off the native Hawaiians too much. The only places I know of that are cheap are getting to not be cheap anymore, but still significantly cheaper than most developed regions of the US. Then the actually cheap place you don't want to actually live there.The cheaper places all risk being inundated with lava some day, but the risk is higher in some areas than others.
>>100171369honolulu honestly seems nice enough from what i've seen, plus the college is there
>>100168368>Why do zoomers always cry about no job opportunitiesbecause job doesn't come looking for them itself.
>>100168368>>Employees are 95% white maleslol.I have an indian friend who got an offer from them and a chinese friend who works thereit is not 95% white, at least their recent hires are not
>>100168600He is all they've got!
>>100168368Based
>>100168368>supporting and facilitating war and murderno thanks
>>100168368Because I smoke weed and use torrents.Fortunately Meta doesn't care about either. In fact my manager even encouraged me to explore psilocybin for productivity boosts.
>>100168368Yeah this OP doesn't work in defense, and definitely doesn't do it at a high clearance. Thanks for the laugh, maybe take this post to /biz/?
>>100175226I trip with my boss all the time. Amazing bonding experiences and secures my job.
>>100168368No yuroshit? fuck yeah
>>100168368>tfw when you'll never work for the coolest american employers because of you were born in the wrong place>tfw you'll never be americanwhy even live
>>100168368This is the way. The downside is moving to the Washington metro area.t. junior developer now working at a defense contractor.
>>100168368I've applied for engineering positions to several defense contractors and have gotten rejected every single time. I'm done.
>>100168368>>Employees are 95% white malesthis should have immediately told you this person is larping and most likely is unemployed (age 19 at best)
>>100168601Are you seriously calling someone a rabbi after calling the people who send Israel weapons good employers? Get a fucking mirror you braindead cocksucker
>>100168368not even half of these things are true lmao defense is the most cucked software dev in the world
>>100175352get fucked pedo
>>100168368Nobody who posts on 4chan will ever get a security clearance. We're all on a list.
>>100168368>Get to work on cool projectsYeah mass destruction and murder is really cool.
>>100175534limp wristed basedboy detected
>>100175534>Yeah mass destruction and murder is really cool.But at the cost of being some Shylock's golem? Fuck that noise.
>>100168368Everyone I know who worked for defense contractors quit because the pay is shit now the culture is retarded and every single company plays fuck fuck games with compensation because they want to be boeing. Defense has fallen...
>>100175282This lil nigga is being metoo'd and he doesn't even know it
>>100168368>>Easy to transition to private sector afterwards and make a FAGMAN salaryIs Raytheon not private sector?
>>100175322imagine not being born as the main character
>>100168368Get the fuck off this board rayniggerYour management is shit and the "white" developmers commit garbage indistinguishable from pajeet trash.>cool projectsLmfao