The day free speech dies.
>>100173455>puts ban on free speech into 60 billion foreign aid package
>>100173455(You) voted for this. Enjoy your free and open social media platforms.
>>100173455>free speech
>>100173455It's all propaganda. Free speech is not a thing for ages regardless the platform. Time to wake up and use your brain if you still have one and stop watching nonsense short form media.
>>100173473Imagine free speech in China.
It's not banned, they just have to spin off the business to US ownership.
Good morning friends its already banned in India
Crazy West Taiwan
>>100173472>(You) voted for this.>bipartisan bill in a fake democracy with uniparty characteristicskys immediately. 99% of people here didn't vote at all, knowing this.
>>100173455>free speech>tiktokWait, is it safe to say niggerfaggot on TikTok?
I don't care about China or whatever, but I hate tiktok so that's good.
>>100173582 That's not free speech, that is hate speech
>>100173607Hate speech is speech, and if you have free speech you may engage in it.
>>100173530I have a feeling that soon it will be banned in the EU as well.
>>100173455>free speech diesthere are literal tiktok clones (insta reels/yt shorts) that exist without harvesting your data directly to the CCP.Titkok (puppeteered by the CCP) goes beyond industry norms to harm its users, there is a legitimate threatbanning it doesn't destroy free speech, because the "speech"/content isn't what's banned
>>100173700No, hate speech is not free speech
>>100173771The CCP having my data is no worse for me personally than Meta, Uncle Sam or Netflix having access to my dataAt least the chinks will keep my data to themselves instead of selling it to anyone that asks. Besides which it's a fucking shortform video service, not like they know anything sensitive about me.
>>100173455they can just choose to divest, but if not I don't think it violates 1A it might be against the spirit of free speech, but I don't think you genuinely care about free speech as an issue, OP
>>100173816So you say that you can't post anything that the CCP doesn't like on TikTok because that would be "hate speech"? Oh wait... you are a hypocrite, and I'm glad that TikTok gets banned.
>>100173703EU is not this gullible. Most of EU lived under fear of wiretapping and KGB breathing down their telephone lines. They would never stoop to literal censorship as they were personally still remembering it
>>100173850>The CCP having my data is no worse for me personally than Meta, Uncle Sam or Netflix having access to my dataYou'd be correct, no impact on you specifically but for America as a whole it causes huge issues. Imagine if the US had an app to spy on every single chinese person, and had access to every single piece of detail besides their own thoughts. If the US wanted to, they could use this (like China currently are) to push certain topics, trends or videos in the algo to stealthily impact a country's culture or citizens, which is precisely why its an issue for the US. You aren't directly affected, but in the grand scheme of things you will see the effects of it in due time.>Besides which it's a fucking shortform video service, not like they know anything sensitive about me.You'd be surprised how much they probably do know about you. dismissing it as just a "shortform video service" undermines how egregious their practices really are
>>100173905I've got news for you, every country has things you can and can't do, they're called laws.You will never be free.
>>100173917It's just a matter of time. TikTok will be fined over and over then banned.
>>100173917zhang, please be better at this
>>100173905>I don't like China, therefore I want the USA to become like Chinawooooow
>>100173928That's great except for the fact that Americans should be free to submit to the CCP mindworm if they so choose.
>>100173936Calling (You) a faggot should be in the constitution of every country.
Taking away someones freedom is bad thing. Change my mind.
>>100173959This. what happened to personal freedom and personal responsibility?
>>100173959>>100173972they can, by moving to China directly.If you don't live there, you aren't really submitting to the CCP. America has enough freedom to let you make that choice but the consequence is that you have to relocate to achieve it.
>free speechyou can post whatever you wanted to post on tiktok on here and it's finetell me how free speech dies from banning tiktok?>>100173959look up what sovereignty is again then try saying what you said without feeling like an absolute retard
>>100173988Land of the more or less freeHome of the known to be brave on occasion
>>100173917You mean how they already do?>>100173771>>100173607
>>100173991Go ahead and elucidate, I can wait.
>>100173991>tell me how free speech dies from banning tiktok?It won't. That's just zoomer brain rot mentality.
>>100173928This just sounds like jealousy to me. US sees that China finally cracked the code on societal mind control and wants to be the one controlling it all instead.Based on past experiences I'd bet my illusion of free will on China being the less evil of the two. At least China is an honest dictatorship controlled by a leading class working on its own interests, who's the US government working for? Cause it sure as shit ain't US citizens
>>100173469>for israel
>100174001>no argumenti accept your concession
>>100173455TikTok is not a life necessity. You will be just fine without it.
>>100174002Name me one other mainstream platform where I can expose Israel for his crimes against Palestine
>>100174024This is how freedoms are repealed.
>>100174032You're on it, newfriend.
>>100174024>I accept it because it doesnt concern mei used to be like you 10 years ago. now my country banning entire internet protocols because 'some drug site' they banned in 2012 'didn't concern me'
>>100174032Twitter/X and you can thank Elon Musk for that.
>>100174042>mainstream>4chanfucking retard, normies have no clue what we are doing here, they are completely oblivous
>>100174050>1millionth posts+it's fucking mainstream
>>100174050>4chan>not mainstreamlollmao even
>>100174057>>1001740584chan is Anonymous, there's no way to prove who you are.
>>100174041>This is how freedoms are repealed.You are just like a drug addict.
>>100174067put on a trip so i can filter you
>>100174008Of course the US is jealous, who wouldn't be?I Think the issue for the US is moreso that it involves their citizens, meaning they have less impact.If it were JUST china controlling china they wouldn't care. Regardless of whether the US would do the same as china in an alternate reality, it still impacts US citizens negatively.>At least China is an honest dictatorshipTiannanmen square did not happen, and if you say it did we will put you in a slave camp
>>100174048>visibility limited>90% of posts pro Israel artificially>just like tiktokkys kike
>>100174076What you collectively call drugs were free to use in the early 20th century but not any more. Got any more examples?
Land of the less free than yesterdayHome of the still claiming to be brave though
>>100174079https://freedomhouse.org/country/china/freedom-world/2023
>>100174111>https://freedomhouse.org/country/china/freedom-world/2023>A1. Was the current head of government or other chief national authority elected through free and fair elections?LMAO. You've got like 40% of your country says no and you tout this bullshit as facts?
Oh, the land of the free (as long as you don't talk about Israel) and the home of the brave (but not brave enough to question their zog overlords).
>>100173917Germany and their StasiGermany forces whatever they endure onto everyone elseLogically, the EU will vote for thisThe EU is the 4th Reich
>>100174134I'm afraid that suicide is your only option then.
>>100173510Who will immediately change the censorship and promotion policy to align with the government interests.
>>100173816The Supreme Court unanimously disagrees.
>>100174159You only scored 3/4 on that section, nigger.
>>100174111>freemasonhouse.org
>>100174205Source: https://freedomhouse.org/country/united-states/freedom-world/2023
>>100174171TikTok disagrees with supreme court and so do actually baZed countries like Russia.
>>100173455GOOD
like any of you retards use tiktok for anything other than stalking underage girls
>>100174253j'accuse
>>100174260hey now buddy, I just aggressively stalk my exes on insta like a normal guy
>>100173455Watching chinese propaganda and thirst traps aren't isnt speech you doofus.
>>100174278This is America and in America we consume American propaganda only.Now who's got a foreskin?
>>100174278Yeah we wouldn't want to know what those Chinese have to say. Now, MORE. AID. TO. ISRAEL.
>>100174278IT WAS DA CHINEES
>>100174295Why do chuds not just move to China if they like it so much?
>>100173455>NOOOOO you cant ban us we need to push complete bullshit videos to kids and map your network so we can sell that information to people who want to upload ransomware using the back door we sold them.
>>100174346Shut up for the four hundredth time ITT
>>100174349>NOOOOOOO THINK OF THE CHILDREN CONSUMING CHINESE COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA INSTEAD OF AMERICAN CAPITALIST PROPAGANDA THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED HELL HAS FROZEN OVER
>>100174349The only confirmed backdoors are 'inserted here :^)' in America.Thanks for coming out today.
>>100174346there was a bunch of them that did, look up white monkeys in china
>>100174346America: China Jr. (and proud of it now)
fuck tic talk
>>100173917>EU is not this gulliblehahahahahhahahahahahyou serious?HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
>>100173917Are you retarded?We are way ahead of Americans lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Enforcement_Act
TIKTOK BANNEDNO MORE GAY FAGGOTS AND TRANNY PROPAGANDAWE WON
>>100175722Based
>>100175722kys schlomo
I was sitting in the living room watching some retarded movie while my younger sister was watching TikTok on her phone. Then she asks me what is a queen of spades. Lol. That's what TikTok pushes. Luckily she's only into pretty Asian boys so it didn't stick.
>>100173455Everyone will just move to YouTube shorts
I'll enjoy seeing the salty and worthless tears of these zoomer retards once tiktok is inaccessible. Then it's back to bussiness as usual when inevitably they move to Youtube shorts or some other shit website scoops up these retards. I doubt something like tiktok is profitable without China propping it up anyway.
>>100173510How can they force them to sell it? Can the owner decide he still doesn’t want to sell?
>>100176329>I was sitting in the living room watching some retarded movie while my younger sister was watching TikTok on her phone. Then she asks me what is a queen of spades. Lol. That's what TikTok pushes. Luckily she's only into pretty Asian boys so it didn't stick.
I read the bill and apparently it also applies to any foreign app or website made available to us citizens. What the fuck is wrong with you people?
>>100176755Burgers are a manufactured slave race that are groomed from birth to shut down any logical thought processes in response to chosen keywords.Just tell burgers "muh terrorists" or "muh pedos" and they'll let any authority walk on them and their rights and then ask for seconds.
>>100174111
>>100176985Rent free motherfucker
The people ITT who think this Tik Tok ban has anything to do with China are completely missing the point. The only reason this is happening is because of the Anti-Israel / Pro-Palestine content, there's recordings of the ADL stating their intent to ban the app because of this and its quite literally included in an aid bill to Israel. Don't get me wrong I think Tik Tok is garbage and turns the brains of young people into mush, but in this instance I think it's important to keep Tik Tok around so hopefully in about 10 years or so when the boomers are done dying off theres no one left to support Israel and we can regain control of our own country.
>>100177217>vadniks out of absolutely nowhereSpeaking of rent free. How could I have forgotten about "muh heckin' Russiaroo hackermans"? Tell a burger that, and he'll let you steal a "democratic" election from right under his fucking nose.
>>100173455When is the shut down day?
>>100177280at this point i'm positive that it's actually the work of glowies, going overdrive to drive the discussions so that there's nary a chance of anyone talking about the connection between tiktok's anti-kike content and tiktok's national ban speedrun
>>100173455>free speechThey lost free speech when Tik Tok was supporting Palestine.
>>100173455Be sensitive because there could be young zoomers here, who are in despair.Just imagine if someone took away what shaped you and brought you joy in life.
>>100173988That's not how freedom works, anon. Freedom means free, not free with a number of caveats.
Chink shills working overtime lol. Sorry ricedick but in this house we believe black lives matter, trans rights are human rights, and no human is illegal. Go find yourself some rodent on the street to chow down on instead of trying to destroy the free world :)
>>100174024Neither is alcohol, but they tried to take that away too and it didn't really work. It increased crime, even.
>>100177353They would never take away 4chan....right?
>>100177353Fuck them kids
>>100177398They'd lose the most important honeypot/containment area if they do that.Letting loose channers onto the net would be 10x worse than Tumblr dying.
>>100177280>>100176104>>100174295KekIt's amazing that all you had to do to convince 4chan that trannies and tiktok are based is tell them "the jews dont like them"
>>100174010>be USA>billions of dollars to defend borders>not your own borders lolImagine if America had built Obama's fence. How would the world be different today?>be Trump>we should ban tiktok because China could use it to do bad things and spy on our government>be congress>lol no>be Biden>oh no bad things about Israel are being said on tiktok>be congress>HOLYSHIT! LEGISLATE! BAN! GO!!!!!1The crazier the US gets the more the rest of the world's leaders are relieved as it firewalls itself off economically and socially I think. I think this is an opportunity for someone like China to steal significant amounts of marketshare away from US social media and Big Tech more generally.Even if you think Elon and Zuck are nice people today, if you're in charge of a country you'll have the pressure the US government could privately put on them in the back of your mind.
>>100179019I don't care what the USA is doing but Europe needs to wake up. It is painful to see how everyone criticizes America all the time saying it is an oligarchy only for them to then hate Rossija more. This needs to be fixed, they must know that Rossija is better, not worse
>>100173472You think "votes" put Biden in office? None of us voted for this lol
>>100179019>The crazier the US gets the more the rest of the world's leaders are relieved as it firewalls itself off economically and socially I think.What do you mean?
>>100179077I did
>>100173917>Most of EU lived under fear of wiretapping and KGB breathing down their telephone lines.That's eastern EU. East Germany had the Stasi and most happily complied with it. Being on the winning team in Zersetzung was FUN. You got to do evil like a bad person but with the approval of your own conscience and of the State.>>100174155This. Plus the US's founding mythos and how well that's integrated into American culture makes making these moves itself very challenging domestically. It's much easier for American power brokers to push for anti-free speech measures in foreign jurisdictions, like Europe, and then later on "harmonize with international norms" at home. Both legislatively and by having the administrative class of US entities meet up and cross-pollinate with others, so you get insanity like the CEO of the Wikimedia Foundation going on the record firmly against free speech and then being hired as CEO of NPR.
>>100173501at this rate if the definition of free speech is just "talk bad things about jews and blacks with no repercussions" China is 1000x times better on free speech.
>>100173607hate speech is the only important part of free speech. having the free speech to tell the temperature outside is meaningless, but saying that 13% of the population does 60% of the crime is quite hateful, because it is true.
>>100179172Saying hateful things about blacks never brings anything good, it can be safely banned with zero negative consequencesOf course temperature is useless but what really matters is you being able to support or oppose government actions. otherwise the government can just come rape your wife and you can't even complain
>>100174111this is an index done by americans. i can index america at 1/100 and will be the same.
>>100179206i would argue that keeping blacks never brings anything good. I would just ship them to africa or india and make a fortnite tournament with the idea that whoever survives deserves to live. I actually expect that if say 2 billion of these creatures take part in my tournament and say 10 survive, these will all be blacks will biggest fucking BBC you can imagine. Thus I solve all humanity's problems. But enough about my free speech organization of a few genocides, I should be able to say my though out loud.
>>100177375every day i blame myself for not learning chinese and russian more and more. a day will come when the pinnacle of free speech will be China, because americans cannot say any word as even "crimer" just means nigga, same as "youth, students, youngsters, joggers" and all the other ...
>>100173455bros where can i actually read the bill? what's the real name? if i look up tiktok bill, all i see are faggy clickbaity news articles with zero actual information.
>>100173455I hope TikTok insites an uprising. They are probably too spineless to do so, but they probably could if they wanted to.
>>100173607Free speech exists to protect speech that angers people. I think Andrew Tate is a self absorbed cunt, but he has the right to say whatever he wants. Social media sites have the option to block people for a reason.
>>100179089So for "major" countries that are solidly part of Team Pax Americana, this isn't relevant. But for smaller countries, like say countries in Africa, they may be looking more closely at each instance where the US decrees its way or the highway. The US continues to claim a basis of "democratic" or "rules-based international order" or whatever, but where they had the benefit of the doubt for Iraq I think those excuses have begun to wear very thin. So instead of new sanctions bringing feelings of joy for being on the winning coalition against the bad guy, they may evoke instead feelings of concern about how easily that could be them when they step out of line.So the more economic sanctions, the more trade that takes place denominated in currency other than the USD, or the more attractive alternatives to SWIFT become. If China doesn't bend the knee on TikTok and the US makes a domestic Big Tech replacement, will other countries join in on a TikTok ban? Each time the US grasps for interests instead of describable and consistent values, others reevaluate in what circumstances the US can be trusted and how. When it's often not even its own interests but those of a foreign power that's even less understandable. Especially with lies, propaganda, and atrocities, that the USA wearing its Team America costume has played a military role in regime change for less.Like are countries in Africa shacking up with Russia now because after decades Putin finally remembered he can open up the personal bribery taps, or has America placed itself somewhere that it no longer appears as a trustworthy option?Is even Hollywood as effective as it used to be at spreading the rightness of American culture internationally, or could it have reached too far, like domestic news, and the public is no longer buying what the American State is selling?
>>100179268>I actually expect that if say 2 billion of these creatures take part in my tournament and say 10 survive, these will all be blacks will biggest fucking BBC you can imagine.least freudian /pol/tard
>>100179527i did it intentionally but i also would kill 2 billion of africa and india if i could for real.
>>100173455I think this law is very problematic as it seems to allow the US government to arbitrarily designate any foreign media as adversary owned/fundedFor instance when al-jazeera was providing unbiased reporting on the US wars in the middle east they could have very easily shut it down in the USA with this law, and left only the corporate stooge media groups like CNBC/CNN/FOX/etc.This law has set a very bad precedent, the normies do not know what this law actually does, it is not a targeted tiktok ban it is a license to censor and ban anything the gov dislikes
>>100179268>i would argue that keeping blacks never brings anything goodwhy did you buy them then. no refunds.
>>100179506People who are hated by a large majority should be oppressed. Even if it is based on opinion, ethnicity, skin color, wealth, fatness or religion.
>>100179590i did not, but i would if i could.
How long until Tiktok splits like an open sore and there is 100 identical apps with different names?
>>100173455>free speech diesNo shit. Under any serious Government, it would've been dead on arrival.
>>100173455This isn't over yet. Picrel.
>>100179527uhh my mom isn't black my dad is geniusfreudfags need to rope
>>100176544the owner is a chinese corporation>we no serr to you rosers>USGOV demands it get taken off of app stores>USGOV demands all server hosts in the united states to not do business with tik tokthats it
>>100181177i remember 2020. i remember the memes. i remember even this meme. the based negro judge was supposed to help the ceaser. Instead the negro stole the ceaser's bike, and the ceaser backstabbed us. Let the past die, kill it if you have to. This negro will not help anyone or anything.
wow these replies china is a fucking communist hellhole. This app does not support free speech and this ban is nothing to do with free speech it's being used to collect data.
>>100181638US apps are famously known for supporting free speech and not collecting data
>>100173472>(You) voted for this.If given the chance I would have. Nothing of value was lost.>>100173703That would be great.>>100177398They might require adult ID verification once all the mainstream porn sites have it. /b/ and other porn boards would have to get removed to avoid that I think.
>>100181679>adult ID verificationBiden's government is about to force ID verification on anyone purchasing a service to run arbitrary code. Like say anyone using a webhost. So it's coming. Maybe it's from the escalating brinkmanship with China but they're done being subtle.Wagie News did an article and it began with a flood of mysterious supporting comments plus the standard forum disruption techniques to demoralize the opposition and demand increasingly unreasonable levels of effort if the critics don't want to be accused of bad faith.
>>100173455>The day degenerate soft-porn, ADHD brainrot memes for kids and non-stop LGBTMAP2S+ propaganda dies.Oh no!
>>100173455>The day free speech dies.>>>/reddit/
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>>100184112>redditI don't see anything anti Russian in that post
>>100173455>chinkchok>free speechI suggest you to go back and continue to swipe. They are right to ban this app, it produces brain dead people.
>>100173703we have a media law that allows the EU commission to dictate what is shown on social media is supposed to kick in 2025 I think. Anyway its just another way to generate money for the EU commission because they depend on the states for that and they hate it. So no they will milk TikTok for a while before eventually banning it.
Out of curiosity, is Tik Tok considered a "problem" in Europe, or are people there just chill about it? My feeling is that it's just an American thing because they're obese misshapen racists.
>>100181470it was an exciting time for sure>2 oc i made were getting posted hourly on /pol/
>>100176544>how can government get away with such things?naive summer child, the ultimate threat state violence is always the base case for questions like these
>>100184735threat of*
>>100173455How is free speech tied to an app? It's not even your app, it's some chinese dude's app.
>>100181177tiktok should buy him an RV
>>100173469>puts ban on free speech into 60 billion foreign aid packageNot only that, they also included more broad spying, which this board should care more about
>>100176480Tiktok usa business is a much smaller operation than douyin in china. Bytedance's 80% of revenue comes from china e-commerce in douyin. It's why they will simply exit the american market that at most represents a 10% of their income.
>>100173455i don't understand the jew conspiracies with this one. they've been campaigning for a tiktok ban since long before there was a vocal hatred of israel. It doesn't seem related at all.
>>100179206>Saying hateful things about blacks never brings anything goodBecause they're animals.
It's fair - foreign companies have to setup JVs in PRC. It has no financial impact on the US economy. It is a bit arbitrary, though, I guess that's what they get for smuggling drugs through Mexico and pretending like they're not doing it.
>>100173455> chink spyware> free speechAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
>>100182808What does MAP tiktok propaganda look like? And what's beyond? Cannibals wanting acceptance?
>>100173455>Crying about a shitty mass manipulation foreign platformFuck em if they can't take that joke
>>100173455>so much faggotry, garbage and anti white propaganda on tik tok>crickets from US government>tik tok retards start to talk about jews>shut it down, said the US governmenthahaha
>>100173455Chinkcel, you will never have sex with a real woman with a real vagine.
>>100173771>Titkok (puppeteered by the CCP) goes beyond industry norms to harm its users, This. If you make a TikTok account and refuse to use their mobile app and only use their web interface, you'll get perma banned for not letting them harvest your data and they'll uphold it with some bullshit about violation of misinformation policies even if you haven't posted anything.ChinkTok doesn't even try to hide their real motives
>>100173455nah this is just classic protectionism, us product (social media sites) could not compete with the foreign option so corpos used their puppets in congress to ban it (or conveniently sell it to some american company)
>>100173928>Imagine if the US had an app to spy on every single chinese person, and had access to every single piece of detail besides their own thoughts. >If the US wanted to, they could use this (like China currently are) to push certain topics, trends or videos in the algo to stealthily impact a country's culture or citizens, which is precisely why its an issue for the US.sounds like twitter, or facebook, or youtube, or instagramamerica did this shit to itself and has been going on long before tiktok ever existed, this is just cope to ban something silicon valley couldnt compete with
>>100173469Ban on foreign speech and spying from adverserial nations.
>>100173455BIDEN MAN
>>100176985>Burgers are a manufactured slave racereminder the us is mostly just exiles and prisoners from the uk
>>100184503its not as far in the process, but it's already getting banned from use by politicians for example because "muh data collection to le China..."a lot of the eu just follows whatever the us says
>>100173455Fuck you chang
>>100173928>Imagine if the US had an app to spy on every single chinese personBut TikTok isn't being used by everyone, it's only used by proles. It would be like if the US had a spy app but it only worked on thots and dudebros.>If the US wanted to, they could use this (like China currently are) to push certain topics, trends or videos in the algo to stealthily impact a country's culture or citizens, which is precisely why its an issue for the US. You aren't directly affected, but in the grand scheme of things you will see the effects of it in due time.That's what the US has already been doing to both its own citizens and the wider western world though, and the result has been a disaster. Every election now feels like the prelude to a civil war. China wishes it was capable of destabilizing the west to the extent the US has done in the post cold-war era.>You'd be surprised how much they probably do know about you.The point is that they can't do anything with it. They have no legal authority over me. I'm far more concerned about my own government spying on me because they are able to use that data against me.
>Let the Chinese traitors preaching so-called ‘human rights and freedom’ go to hell!!This is the type of thing the directors of ByteDance are on record saying.
>>100179172>>100179206>Saying hateful things about blacks never brings anything goodIf you can't say "hateful" things about blacks then these informational no-go zones will be used to hide large-scale corruption, and the "protected" group will invariably get the blame for that corruption once the people catch on. The government doesn't care about blacks, all it cares about is gaining more power and having a scapegoat in the event that the people catch on.For example black/migrant/etc crime functions as a kind of police state in the US and the wider US empire. Notice how those old-timey scenes of police with truncheons busting union meetings etc all magically stopped being a thing around the time everyone was socially conditioned to accept black/migrant/etc violence? The state doesn't need to send goons in uniform to do its dirty work when it can just use the criminals themselves as its enforcers. By selectively decriminalizing certain acts, the state can effectively give orders to the criminals. Criminals will begin gravitating towards state-approved crimes either through their own intelligence or through a process of natural selection acting on the culture, so by choosing what to decriminalize and when, the state controls how criminals behave, thereby making criminals into an unofficial enforcement arm of the state. The purpose of criminals is to suppress the people, while the purpose of the official police is to protect the ruling class from the criminals and to protect the criminals from the people. Criminals don't need to be aware of their role in the system at all, all they need to do is follow the incentives. Under normal conditions people wouldn't tolerate this, but because most people are afraid of holding "hateful" opinions about blacks/migrants/etc, it's these groups that are groomed for the criminal-enforcer role.
>>100173703"Attempted" suicide rates WILL go downThe mental hospital WILL be empty
>TikTok is censored, a botnet and it's used to push troon propaganda, feminism and nigger shit down kid's throats>/g/ wants it to die>the USA finally decided to ban it>NOOOO THIS IS TYRANNY TIKTOK IS THE LAST BASTION OF FREE SPEECH
>>100184503Nobody here really cares, but the bigger european countries (UK/France/Germany/etc) are just Israeli-american vassals so nothing we think matters politically. We are basically the guinea pig for social changes the israeli-american ruling class want to implement in the US. This post explains the dynamic perfectly:>>100179112>Plus the US's founding mythos and how well that's integrated into American culture makes making these moves itself very challenging domestically. It's much easier for American power brokers to push for anti-free speech measures in foreign jurisdictions, like Europe, and then later on "harmonize with international norms" at home.This has been the US strategy for domestic change since the end of WW2, but it really went into overdrive since the end of the cold war. Pushing change internationally first then appealing to international norms to get those same changes at home is much easier than trying to push those changes at home directly.>>100189521"human rights" is just a meaningless buzzword that is constantly being redefined to rationalize whatever actions the israeli-american ruling class wants to take to benefit itself. Free speech is a human right until misgendering a xim/xer becomes a violation of human rights, so now human rights must be violated to protect more important human rights. Which rights are deemed more or less important will always correspond to the interests of the ruling class at any given time. Laws "protecting" trannies are really just laws enabling the ruling class to curtail free speech generally, formulated in such a manner as to ensure trannies get blamed for the resulting abuses of power.>>100188840That would be incredibly antisemitic.
>>100189781>UK/France/Germany are israeli/American vassalsIs that why they give preferential trade agreements to Russia, China and even the Middle East over America? Is that why Germany decided to shut down their internal production of energy and change it for Russian gas? Is that why they put expensive tariffs on American goods and impose regulations on American foodstuff but not on Chinese/Russian/African? Is that why they tax and fine American companies out the ass? Why they gave over 70 % of all their ports to Chinese companies?You're retarded. The EU has been trying to get closer to China and Russia than America for the past decade.
>>100189850The EU loves sucking US dick, it just loves sucking Davos dick more.Globalism uber alles.
>>100179140Go live there then.
so much chinging and changing in this thread you'd think its christmas eve
>>100173455You don't need a faggoty Chinese app that collects too much info from your phone to make vertical videos you retarded little faggots.
Voting for Trump so I can get TikTok back
>>100189596Interesting theory, but have you considered taking your meds?
>>100173455>>100189923
>>100189960Trump wants to ban TikTok too.
>>100173455who cares about dumb Chinese brainrot basedware>its about the implications!!!don't care
>>100188840no. the law gives the government the right to define what is foreign speech, and what is speech that is "supported by adversarial nations"essentially, it gives the government power to ban anything that they don't like.
>>100189715dog that caught the car
>>100190867>picWhat the fuck is with that literal doublethink?
>>100177048The best and free-est nations are typically better on world indexes? Whack. Must be some conspiracy
>>100190916Dems bad. Progressives can be just as annoying with it but every MAGAtard is like this.
>>100173455i'm pretty hardcore on free speech but if it means the ccp gets fucked then i'm alright with this
>>100191108>i'm pretty hardcore on free speech>butevery time
>>100191122never said i was an absolutist. keep up, retard.
>>100191133>>100191108Not really hardcore being pro free speech for people that don't disagree with you too much. I get it though, we all just wanna say the n word.
>>100189781>Laws "protecting" trannies are really just laws enabling the ruling class to curtail free speech generally, formulated in such a manner as to ensure trannies get blamed for the resulting abuses of power.Oh, fuck. Now it all makes sense why trannies are gaining so much visibility and are being a nuisance to everyone around them; because they're being encouraged, pushed on a pedastal to be "out and loud and proud", and unbeknownst to them are being set up to be the common enemy. Once that common enemy is defeated... nothing changes. Because we didn't defeat the people who are actually running the show.
>>100177048China is a third world country, sorry, this is not a conspiracy, these are objective quality-of-life indicators made by a bunch of UN commies who hate America. Even here you look bad, chang.
>>100189715>USA actively banning pro-Israel, globalhomo propagandaWhere have you lived since JFK died? Retard.
They can't do anything about the desktop users.
>>100173510That means banned, dummy. "Just give it to us and let us have total control of it" means it ceases to be what it currently is aka banning.
>>100181359And those hosts can say "Why?" and demand the government actually provide a reason with backing evidence instead of things that *might* happen.
>>100181638>china is a fucking communist hellholIt really isn't. Even if you're staunchly anti-China you should get more familiar with the reality of China being a 1st world economic superpower with a capitalist-in-all-but-name economy.
>>100173501>imagine free speech in the US
>>100181638>it's being used to collect data.No more so than Facebook collects Chinese user data for the US government. Should it be banned too? Or is it only okay when WE do it?
>>100189883You are coping now
>>100176985Pretty much this. The US is the largest example of Stockholm syndrome probably ever recorded in the history of the human race. Not only will burgers vote excitingly against their own interests, but proudly boast about it at every opportunity, and sadly online.
>>100191568This
Not bad old man. Not bad.
There was a theory back then, it had a name but I forget what it was, that the internet would divide into small networks slowly, practically because of politics, and it would be so small that calling it the “internet” would be kind of pointless. We thought we were over it, but it doesn't seem like it now.Each country will have its own intranet, it is too dangerous for the hegemonic power of politicians, and with this action taken by the USA, the so-called “country of freedom”, only confirmed this future.Well, i'm not from the US, so i'm saying it before it's too late: thanks for your company on my lonely days, /g/.
>>100173455The main problem isn't the free speech angle. It's the subtle manipulation of American values to align with the interests of our adversary.TikTok censors topics damaging to their agenda, much like American social media corporations do, but with TikTok it's a matter of national security.No company should be doing this, but TikTok poses the greatest threat when they do.
>>100192180Accelerationism is in all our thoughts in a round about watching or another we all feel how toxic the ruling class is we are going to just stop carrying them and lay them at our feet
>>100192393Kids instinctively hate narcs like the nsa, this is just a deathblow to tictoc even just old people talking about tick-tock is the ick. So what’s the new platform bois
>>100192249This is some faggot lefty take nobody needs safest spaces but you
>>100192393No, I'm pretty sure it's about "Fuck China. Kick them in the shin."You have a lot to learn about geopolitics.
I'm not a TikTok fan or user, but the government forcibly trying to take over any media platform it doesn't like for any arbitrary reason has some pretty fucking chilling implications.
>>100192534but muh china
>>100192534it's not arbitrary you fucking zoomer, it's China. pay attention. hell, if we took it to its logical conclusion and banned all foreign media companies and everyone else did the same for American media companies we'd probably all be in a better place
>>100192393The number one threat to American values is the American government.
>>100192430>Accelerationismthat won't work as expected. at most richfags will benefit from it
>>100192588>muh ebil China app doesn't 100% line up with US government-approved propagandaso like I said, arbitrary reason
ok I'm going to explain this one more time: freedom of speech applies to Americans in America in a public forum. a public forum is like a city park or something. not to the corporate management of private equity assets over hosting bad cheesecake videos on private servers
>>100192636A government forcibly seizing the assets of another company for ideological reasons is the very definition of censorship and the suppression of speech. "But it's foreign!" as flimsy justification doesn't really improve the situation. You could just claim anything with foreign investment dollars is foreign.
>>100173917>She doesn't know about glowies already censoring and spying on everythingHoly shit lmao
>>100173605tiktok isn't going anywhere numbnuts it's just going to be more israel friendly
>>100173455It's all good, the jews are already planning on saving free speech by buying tiktok to keep it alive in the US.GO JEWS!
>>100176985Whatever country you're from: you think you're special?You think it can't happen to you?Spoiler: It can. It will.
>>100173816Can you just let people get along cunt?
>>100173455>>100173469>>100173472>>100173473You have gained +1 social credit point.
>>100184354Russians are subhuman but the tiktok ban is still a good idea.
>>100190916The future.
Reminder that Instagram, Facebook and Twitter is banned in China.
>>100197857Why can't the west man up?
>>100192063gov pushes through another bipartisan bill to punish foreign collaborators and a couple billion to israel or some shit and its a done deal.unless there's already some enforcement action neither of us know about because we didnt read the actual bill
>>100181470maybe i should delete this guy off of my drive
>>100173455>chinese psyops on american citizens:(>american psyops on american citizens:)
>chinese psyop that dulls the already dumb generation into absolute brain-rotten, zero attention span having idiots>muh free speech
>>100199094>chinese psyop that dulls the already dumb generation into absolute brain-rotten, zero attention span having idiotsreels and shorts does the same except i actually see way more degen shit especially on reelsanyways, of course it's banned becaues it redpills zoomers on JQ and it's not owned by jews and not backdoored by the NSA
>>100199173funny that zoomers were outside congress protesting the tiktok ban but not this or dumping hundreds of billions into foreign wars
>>100173455>>100173469>>100173607The fact that you don't know what free speech is, is exactly why your CCP surveillance arm is getting shut down now.
>>100192719It's not being forced to sell over its expression. It's because it's a national security disaster waiting to happen.
>>100173455>free speech is not talking about Americas actual leaders >free speech is not discussing how america has given China land in each of its wars >free speech is not dissenting when told to get a vaccine against an imaginary disease >free speech is not discussing how the sinking if the USS liberty or assassination of JFK is proof that Israel was the most likely perpetrators of 9/11>free speech is not talking about the moon landing being fake and gay to justify radio spy bases in austrailia or the removal of democratically elected Australian prime ministers to continue to keep pine gap there >free speech is not talking about currency inflation denial free speech just means you didn't have to pay for it you filthy goyim
>>100199203
>>100173455This no more a breech of freedom of speech than virus software removing a trojanBecause tiktok IS a trojan
>>100197857okay but only because they refused to comply with the guidelines offered by the government to any foreign tech company that wishes to operate in chinawhere are the american guidelines?
>>100173547Then vote them out when voting time comes. Oh wait you won’t
>>100173455Cry more, little pink
>>100179051I assume you're being sarcastic.Europe sure is to tough spot - being trapped between USA that will push whatever cultural retardation they come up with and Russia/China alliance that are more classic totalitarian systems that are willing to bring out tanks to fuck your shit up.
>>100189596Using third parties to do things you wanted to happen became the modus operandi in current times. This way you can still pretend to be a "free and democratic" government while still do shady shit. You can just cover yourself with muh bureaucracy/incompetence/procedures if people start asking questions about criminals not being dealt with.The saying about assuming incompetence before malice seems to be psy op in my opinion.
>>100190916TikTok users started doing something useful for once by talking about Israeli war crimes.
It's insane how completely subservient America is to Israel
>>100173455>free speech getting destroyed on reddit, instagram youtube facebook>doesnt matter>chink tok banned>The day free speech dies.
>>100190916Tiktok talked about Israel too much
>>100173455it'll get sued and blocked, nothing ever happens
>saying there are only two genders gets you banned>it's a private organization so it can do whatever it wants>tik tok does whatever it wants>ok hand it over
>>100192588Fucking liberals and their war monger if fear here. “Don’t you understand it’s us vs them!!11”Red scare boogeyman all over again
>>100174161Uhmm just build your own platform if you don’t like it.
>>100173455Damn communists trying to steal my freedom
I see you ITT, chink apoligsts. Go fuck yourselves
>>100192634>>100202768Why are you so scared? You even admit you don't use the app. Are you on the CCP take?
>>100173455Based US, sticking it to the slants. Now if Biden could only ban all other social media then all would be well.
>>100199610>won't Can't more like.
>>100185426Because they're banning it over the pro palestine sentiment on the platform. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8apP1YYg2o
>>100173607>>100173816there is no such thing as "hate speech" you subhuman tranny
>>100174253I don't use tiktok at all. I oppose the ban of it on the grounds that it shits on the corpse that was network neutrality even more. Side note, I think that they could likely get around it (because they did this via economic sanctions as I understand) by just not advertising or making any money (at least not directly or indirectly) off of US viewers. NAL though, so I have no idea if that would work. :/
>>100202916>don't like your car? just build a car yourself then!
>>100174275based
>>100204914Also antisemitism is no longer exclusively a right-wing thing as it belongs to the woke left too.TL:DW hating the Jews is woke now apparently
>>100184844LOL. Say what you will about Clarence Thomas, but he decides things on what he really believes. Not any gifts. But I bet you're a leftist 'tard.
There is zero chance the CCP would allow Bytedance to sell TigTog as that would make China look weak, so good fucking job killing the only good social media site to pop up within the last decade chuds
>>100206570I truly can't see how this doesn't backfire and cause the majority of TikTok users to become virulent antisemites once it's banned. There's a very good possibility that antisemitism becomes as mainstream as Islamophobia after 9/11.
>>100201133>You can just cover yourself with muh bureaucracy/incompetence/procedures if people start asking questions about criminals not being dealt with.Don't forget muh Hanlon and Occam's razors whenever accusations get too close to the mark. They're not incompetent they're robbing you and your community and they've gotten very good at it.
>>100190916First time? Look through the social media of any MAGAtard and you can "this you?" them within a few minutes.
Tiktok is one of many media platforms and is not free speech. Retarded zoomies have plenty of other place to go to, in order to generate content for cringle compilations.
>free speechcan't talk about Tiananmen, or have Pooh and their precious leader in the same video
>>100173455I remember when Trump and his people proposed it should be banned because of national security. The Jews were like eh, it's great for promoting trannyism so how about le no. But as soon as it became a place for rapid anti Israel support it's suddenly getting banned...
>>100201153>>100201204Why would the zionist kirk care? lol
>>100207078>It's only le ebul and bad MAGAAAAAA>tv told me so. lol
>>100173455foreign data harvesting bad, american soil data harvesting good
I'm guessing which is why the desktop version doesnt wanna load anything unless you use a vpn or the app
>>100207090>Tiktok >GoodThe only good social media ever was the /Qway/ board and mods shut that down fast.
>>100173816There are two and only two cases:All speech is free speech,orWhatever you don't want people to talk about is not free speech.Allowing the second option allows people to control you.Xi Jingping sucks donkey dick and china fucking sucks.
>>100173928The TikTok ban isn't about the data collecting and never was. It isn't about the palestine protests, isn't about jew hate. Never was.The TikTok ban is because the chinese manipulate "the algorithm" to psyop people. And clearly, it works very well thus proving the security concerns correct.China's not your friend chinese companies are not your friend, and you can go back to Vine or whatever else is/was a 5-second media dopamine hit and fuck off.
>>100205476I get to decide that, not you
>>100174008>>100174079>jealousthe 5 Eyes conglomerate has access to all traffic that originates in the networks of their borders and partners, you're an idiot.
lmao NO REFUNDS
>>100177280Bullshit.You have to be a retard to believe this.A ban on TikTok has been talked about since early 2020. Has nothing to do with JEWS AND CHINKS its about how tiktok is operated by bytedance and the ccp
>>100192430can you say that again in english please
>>100207210Because westerners were trained to take side of brown-skinned people.
>>100208769I wish I could suck Xi bear cock all day
>>100191600>somalia is 0.950+they fare so bad they looped over all the way back to the best category
>>100206961You know as well as I do that (((they))) wouldn't allow that to happen.
>>100179019>bad things about Israel are being said on tiktokWtf i love tiktok now???
its giving 1984 crying rn bro they really took our culture away
>>100173455Please enlighten me on how foreign surveillance and subversion software is related to free speech.
>>100209978Isn't that the same thing Meta does, but worse?
>>100210061Nta but whatsaboutism will never be an argument. He asked you a question about TikTok and you didn't give your answer on it.
>>100173530US teens should move to moj
>>100210169Did she die?
Free speech is gone? you mean the government can arrest you now for saying you hate china?
>>100210275https://twitter.com/auronplay/status/1222861633229402112
>>100210061Sure. But that's not what I'm referring to. The OP claims TikTok is a platform for free speech. The current interpretation of the first amendment is the act of going outside, writing your own newspaper or hosting your own blog on your own server and saying/writing/typing whatever you want without repercussion from the government. A software platform provided by private corporations (foreign or domestic) is not related to free speech in any manner. You have free speech on the internet and in the real world, as long as you use your own platform. For example: 4chan is not a platform for free speech, although many believe it to be so.
>Company owned by China is supposed to have United Statesian rightsGoing to side with the dumb burgers on this one, bugmen are too autistic to understand logic.
>>100210429RIP
>>100210405No, but they can arrest you for saying you don't think Israel is the greatest country on Earth.
>>100173455It seems Sleepy Joe finally did something right for once, did he have a post nut clarity or something?Still voting for Trump though, this law was originally his idea to begin with.
>>100210432Actually, it is. Because they straight up have mentioned they're worried about "propaganda" on the platform, so it is indeed about speech. Pircel
>>100210150It isn't whataboutism, because if it was about people's privacy they would just be forcing all social media companies to protect the privacy of their users not force the chinese owned one to sell.I suspect this post was bait though, but just because you bring up another entity doesn't mean it is whataboutism. In this case it shows unequal application if Meta etc do the exact same thing, but worse.
>>100210432>violating human rights is fine if a corporation does it for moneyfreedom of speech was not invented for the US Constitution
>>100211591That's not how negative rights and constitutional protections work though.He is either baiting or a moron for entirely different reasons though.It is the government abridging people's speech because if the government can just shut down platforms, then they can shut down anyone as long as they're considered a "foreign actor". The problem is the constitution makes no distinction between citizen and non-citizen here. Thus it is indeed the government violating first amendment rights. Those of the platform owners, and of the platform's users. most of which here in the US are citizens.
>>100211591>>violating human rights is fine if a corporation does it for moneyIt is. You can thank the Supreme Court for the interpretation. If you want it changed, sue a private corporation for deleting your post and make your way through the judicial appeals system.
>>100212298So if I run a place of business, and you want to put a sign in my yard that I hate. I have to keep it up, since it's owned by a "private corporation"??Are you from leftypol or something?
>>100173455Where are people going to find videos of teen girls twerking now?!?
>>100211683>It is the government abridging people's speech because if the government can just shut down platforms, then they can shut down anyone as long as they're considered a "foreign actor".already happens via censorship and bans
>>100213250First amendment doesn't apply to anyone but the government, and you have no right to force someone else's property or platform to abide by your own rules.You're perfectly free to boycott them though.
>>100173455who cares about this zoomer chink shit anyway?
>>100213603>entered a page 10 thread to leave his opinion for the world to seeyou do
