>android phone comes with 3 different pre-installed photos app like gallery, google photos and Microsoft>comes with 3 different pre-installed browsers chrome, Samsung internet and Google>comes with 3 different pre-installed cloud apps like google drive, one drive, and manufacturer’s>comes with 2 App Store like play store and manufacturer app like galaxy store.And you can’t uninstall any of these. KEK. KWAB EVEN.
Graphene os chads don't have this issue
use adb you retard
>i don't use chrome or gmaili'm not sure i believe him
>>100179003probably even worse: DuckDuckGo Browser and the official Yahoo app
I debloat with ADB but Samsung phones have a really bloated Android regardless, never again
You can remove them you just don't know how
>>10017882020% is not "almost half"
i hate my iphone but this is the one good thing about it, i can usually delete the bullshit my provider loads up
>>100178820there's not a single phone in existance that released in last 5-10 years that would have even 10% of its space taken up by default apps. what are you smoking retarded itoddler. most of those apps can be uninstalled, including samsung internet, and the ones that cant are stuff that 99% of users needs to have a functional phone that can call, message, save contacts, look at weather, open up mail, open up a web browser, open up a store, open up settings, use a camera, use a gps/maps, use youtube etc.
>>100179454>i love defending bloatware mmm mmm samsung cock so tasty
>>100179454>call>phone calls in 2012+12bloat, it's all ads and scam attempts now>messagebloat>save contactsbloat>look at weatherbloat>open up mailbloat>open up a web browserbloat if it's not Firefox>open up a storebloat, also very easy to find malware on the Play Store>open up settingsbloat>use a camerabloat>use a gps/mapsbloat>use youtubebloat>etc.bloat bloat bloat bloat bloat. Just kys
>>100179626>makes a thread seething about android>d-dude you cant just give your opinion on why my shitpost is false!kys tranny>>100179724you sound fat
>>100179454Sure the apps themselves don't take that much.The system partition is still fucking huge on modern Android, though. Usual figures are 17GB for 32GB device, 24GB for 64GB devices. Windows 10 takes less than that, it's beyond absurd the bloat that is modern software.
>>100178820you can delete them, even without rootsmg has a link to a tool that lets you remove shitI deleted so much I could barely use the phone, guess you need some bloat to survive>>100179724sounds like you only need a browser, brainrotten normalfag
>>100179756It's because of the way android sandboxing and apps works, it's bound to be more "bloated" in terms of size compared to windows programs. I exclusively buy mid grade phones because I don't do any gaymin or professional fotography on my phone so I don't need more consoomerist shit, and pretty much every Samsung/Xiaomi/Google mid-budget phone comes with over 100GB of space and doesn't take up more than 20ish gigs or so.
>>100179756Where the fuck are you buying a 32gb device in 2024?
>>100179003What's wrong with that? I don't either.Every Google service is dogshit just like Chrome so no need for an account.
>>100180211>buys a device built on ANDROID that is owned by GOOGLE>complains that his ANDROID device owned by GOOGLE uses GOOGLE servicesi kneel.... so this is the power of a 2024 /g/ poster...
>>100179810>smgWho? Seriously. Or just post the link, please.
>>100180461typo, I meant spg, the generalhttps://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater
>>100180236>owned by googleis a open source project with many devs including non-google contributors. you can build your own android with the SDK. i dont get the point of posting leddit tier statements>LE BRAND BADjust hang yourself
>>100180236But my Android phone runs LineageOS without g(arbage)apps in the background?
>>100178937waiting for the 8a so I can use this
>>100180482Thank you!
>>100178820absolute state of pajeetdroidone of the reasons i ditched it for ios
>>100178820Here's all the apps that come pre-installed on iPhone. The iPhone:>1080p screen, not 4k or 1440p>No reverse wireless charging>No dual Bluetooth>No headphone jack>No option for sd cards>No split-screening your apps>No foldable displays>No second screen>No fast charging>USB-C 3.0 only in the 15 Pro Max>No built-in Stylus>Can't keep more than one account saved on apps>Cant torrent>Can't do Picture in picture with every app (yes, we can even do it for YouTube for free)>Updates constantly slowing phone down>Can't have gifs or videos as backgrounds>Can't customize alarm (or notification tone) with song that they own>Cant customize ringtone with song that they own, have to purchase ringtone from Apple app store>Cant emulate games without jailbreaking>Can't download apps not in app store>No phone charger in box>No in-screen fingerprint scanner>$120 wireless headphones DO NOT COME WITH PHONE>It doesn’t tell you how long your phone has left to fully charge when you plug it in>No way to close all apps at once>Can’t pause or stop a video while recording: you can only stop a video and start a brand new one>No option to flip the camera around while recording>no separate volumes for ringtone/media/notifications/alarms/calls>no ascending volume (for wake-up-alarms)>cannot set more than one timer without a hardware-dongle (apple watch) or siri>Can't put space between apps>Can't limit ram usage>Can't turn phone into desktop >Can't record phone calls>No t9 dialing >Can't adjust height of keyboard>Keyboard doesn't have row dedicated to numbers>No clipboard>Can't picture in picture their video calls>Can't take long screenshots outside of safari>Can't change hotspot name without changing device name>No cloud gaming>No 100x zoom
>>100179754>kys trannyRent free
>>100178820penis lol
>>100178820Sounds like a skill issue.>>100179413You just happened to encounter an Android user with the mental faculties of an iToddler.
>>100180882>>100180482Well, a lot of the stuff I was previously unable to disable/remove manually using ADB I was able to disable/remove using that tool, don't know what magic sauce it uses to do so (reading the source I can't find anything special about it, maybe I'm not looking at the right files, Rust isn't my coup of tea) but there is still one that can't be removed no matter what the "Game Optimizing Service". Apparently the UI itself re-installs/re-enables it every time it can't find it (or on package uninstall/disable). Requires root, and I really don't want to root this phone, at least one app will not run in a rooted phone and its an "essential" one for the humanoid using the device.Thanks again.
>>100178820>you can’t uninstall any of theseThis is on old android version, right?I remember being able to remove every bloatware app I wanted like 2 or 3 years ago
>>100178820>fastboot oem unlock>fastboot flash recovery twrp.img>fastboot boot twrp.img>adb push lineageos.zip>adb push magisk.zipproblem solved
>>100178820why not change your launcher to nova?
>>100180667good plan. the 8a will replace my 6a actually
>>100181578>Can't keep more than one account saved on appsA $1500 device did not just do that, right? Right? Huh?
>>100178820>dealing OEM shitThere're only two smartphone brands: Pixel or iPhone. Everything else is literal garbage.Same for laptops: Macbook or Surface.Tablets? iPad or Surface.The only time OEMs are acceptable is when you can buy just the hardware, you install your own OS from scratch and all the drivers are available.
>>100178820Termux on f-droidapt-install android toolsGo to your phone settings, enable developer mode, go there, enable WiFi debugging (sadly you have to be connected to a WiFi)Back in Termux connect to adb shell over localhostCongratulations, you can now run a command to uninstall 90%+ of shitty preinstalled apps you otherwise couldn't uninstall without a need for a PC
>>10017938920% is still obscene
>>100178820on iphone you can uninstall almost any system app besides safari and store i think
lineageos doesn't have this problem
>>>100184766I disagree, my S7 FE is great.
>>100178820Use ADB and remove them
>>100181578ios lets you uninstall basically every stock app
>>100179152something wrong with the Duckduckgo browser?
>>100189246So does Android. It's fucking hilarious how iTards discover features on the iPhone and announce them like they're brand fucking new. >The iPhone can make phone calls. Can't do that on an Android!
>>100178820EU will fix this mess in about 2 weeks
>>100178820>twitterite/redditor is retarded>other twitterite/redditor who is also retarded decides to post it on /g/
>>100178820lol, lmao even, you get what you paid for
>>100189824Try uninstalling google play services, pathetic nigger. I am an android user just because of money. The day I become rich, I will ditch this droidshit
>>100190590>I am an android user just because of money. The day I become rich, I will ditch this droidshitunless you live in an actually poor country, this isn't a thing, you can find second hand iphones that are as cheap as cheap new android phones, if you want one, you can get one
>>100178937based
>>100190590>Try uninstalling google play servicesWhy the fuck would I do that faggot? But yes, that's possible and my Android would still be usable. Your iPhone essentially be useless if you tried it, so no idea why you would want that. Not to mention every app needs an Apple ID and doesn't allow for multiple accounts. >The day I become rich, I will ditch this droidshitSo that you can buy a $1000 iPhone, delete all the apps and app store? You're a fucking genius. The retarded little hills you faggots die on for iPhone is nonsensical and arbitrary.
>>100178971This.
>>100178820I also want to buy from a company that will actually SELL me the phone instead of just a license to use the phone that they still own. I think that would be nice.
>>100182245Ok, but I shouldn't need to take the time to do this. I should be receiving an actual product in return for my money instead of a trash brick that I have to unshittify.
>>100181578Look, I don't like Apple, but I hate fanboi shit even more, and this post is pure fanboi retardation. Many points are absurd, or simply untrue.>4k on a phoneIt's not even necessary for most users to have this on a laptop or desktop monitor, and many Android devices do not have 4k screens.>No reverse wireless chargingNot every Android device has this, 99.9% of users don't even know it exists, and reverse wired charging (which is more efficient) still works.>No dual BluetoothNot entirely true, but it only works with Apple hardware like HomePods.>No split-screening your appsCan be done with third-party software or tweaks after jailbreaking.>No foldable displaysBecause they're for retarded coomers and most users do not want them.>No second screenCan be done with third party software.>No fast chargingThis is a lie.>No built-in StylusDoesn't exist on the vast majority of Android devices either.>Can't keep more than one account saved on appsThis is a lie. It depends on the application and what it's interfacing with, just like on Android.>Cant torrentThis is not a native Android feature either. It can be done with third party software, just like on Android.>Can't do Picture in picture with every appNot every app supports it on Android either.>Updates constantly slowing phone downEvery new Android release is more resource-hungry.>Can't have gifs or videos as backgroundsI can't imagine how retarded and underage someone must be to want this.>Can't customize alarm or notification with song that they own>Cant customize ringtone with song that they ownThese are lies. Of course you can: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254756015>No in-screen fingerprint scannerAnother feature that many Android phones do not have.>$120 wireless headphones DO NOT COME WITH PHONEHow many Android phones come with $120 headphones?>It doesn’t tell you how long your phone has left to fully charge when you plug it inAnother lie.
>>100178820>iJeets can't criticize Android without bringing up some cheapest chinkphone
>>100181578>>100192436Continuing:>No way to close all apps at onceThis can only be done on many Android devices through third party software.>Can’t pause or stop a video while recording>No option to flip the camera around while recordingLies. It depends on the recording software, just like on Android.>no separate volumesThere are separate volume controls for media, and for alerts.>no ascending volumeLie. See: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254033074>cannot set more than one timer without a hardware-dongleLie. See: https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-multiple-timers-iph8241d6b2a/ios>Can't put space between appsWhat are you even talking about?>Can't limit ram usageThis is a relatively new feature on Android, but most iOS devices truly do not need it.>Can't turn phone into desktopConvergence is not a native feature on 99.9% of Android phones either.>Can't record phone callsLie. Of course you can. There are native solutions and more configurable third party solutions.>No t9 dialingThere is third party software for this.>Can't adjust height of keyboardThis isn't entirely true (see: https://www.popsci.com/diy/how-to-make-keyboard-bigger-on-iphone/ ) though Android does it a whole lot better.>No clipboardOf course it has a clipboard. What you are referring to is a clipboard buffer (storing multiple clipboard entries for later access). This feature is keyboard-specific. Gboard and AnySoft have a clipboard buffer, but standard AOSP and others do not.>Can't picture in picture their video callsLie. See: https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/multitask-with-picture-in-picture-iphcc3587b5d/ios>Can't take long screenshots outside of safariThere is a variety of third party software for this, much of which is free.>No cloud gamingThis isn't a native feature of Android. There are third party apps for both Android and iOS that support it.>No 100x zoomDepends on the model, just like Android.
>>100192436>>100192647>all this copeIt's over. iPhone is done.
>>100178820filtered
>>100192436>Can be done with third party software.What third party software gives the iPhone a SECOND SCREEN? Go ahead, I'll wait.Why go to this length to lie about a company that fucking hates you?
>>100178820>choice is bad
>>100192436>It's not even necessary for most users to have this on a laptop or desktop monitor, and many Android devices do not have 4k screens.The iPhone doesn't have 4k.>Not every Android device has this, 99.9% of users don't even know it exists, and reverse wired charging (which is more efficient) still worksThe iPhone doesn't have reverse wireless charging. >Not entirely true, but it only works with Apple hardware like HomePodsThe iPhone doesn't have dual Bluetooth. >Can be done with third-party software or tweaks after jailbreaking.The iPhone cannot split screen it's apps. >Because they're for retarded coomers and most users do not want them.Until they come out in 2027 and you say it's the best thing ever. The iPhone doesn't have foldable displays. >Can be done with third party software.The iPhone literally doesn't have a second screen. No "third party software" is gonna install a second screen on your iPhone dumbass. >This is a lie.Fast charging is considered anything above 25W. The iPhone does not support fast charging. >Doesn't exist on the vast majority of Android devices either.There are zero iPhones with a built in Stylus. >This is a lieThe iPhone won't save more than one account on different apps. >Not every app supports it on Android either.Yes they do. Not every app can picture-in-picture on Iphone. >Every new Android release is more resource-hungry.The iPhones updates have proven to slow down the iPhone to the point that they've been sued for it. >I can't imagine how retarded and underage someone must be to want this.Oh really? Because iPhone had a shitty version of it called "live wallpaper" where you had to touch it to move. APPLE COULDNT EVEN GET THAT RIGHT. iPhone can't use gifs or videos as backgrounds. >These are lies. Of course you can:Having to download Garage Band on a Mac and jump through a bunch of hoops doesn't count. Can't customize ringtone or alarm on iPhone with songs you own.
>>100193091You're wrong and he was wrong. You can connect a secondary display to iOS devices without additional software.
>>100179381>>100179222>>100178971>>100182022>>100188985how is /g/ so retarded? adb doesn't allow you to uninstall apps, it just lets you PRETEND that they're uninstalledthe system partition is read only and "uninstalling" via adb doesn't re-claim that storage spacein fact, disable-user makes much more sense, does the same thing but you'll be able to re-enable those apps with a single tap in the installed apps menu in case things go wrong
>>100192436>>100192647Only refuting the shit points you made.>Not entirely true, but it only works with Apple hardware like HomePods.Should be natively supported. Bonkers that a 600 dollar device locked you down to dual support for very specific devices.>No second screen>Can be done with third-party software or tweaks after jailbreaking.These are usually paid. It's free on Android and is natively supported.>Updates constantly slowing phone down>Every new Android release is more resource-hungry.Every phone manufacturer does this and it's a shit practice.>Cant customize ringtone with song that they own>These are lies. Of course you can: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254756015lol. imagine having to hook up your phone to a computer to use a custom ringtone from storage.>$120 wireless headphones DO NOT COME WITH PHONE>How many Android phones come with $120 headphones?They don't. Their point is to bring back the wired earbuds. (ex. lighting wired/usb c wired on new iPhones) To be fair Android manufacturers have been doing this now too and it sucks.>It doesn’t tell you how long your phone has left to fully charge when you plug it in>Another lie.Provide proof. I have never seen this functionality outside of software workaround with shortcuts. (This should be shown on the lockscreen like on Android.)>No way to close all apps at once>This can only be done on many Android devices through third party software.Blatantly false. Stock AOSP roms support this functionality out of the box. Usually signified via a clear all button.>no ascending volume>Lie. See: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254033074Lie. Thread states that feature was removed in newest iOS. Quote, "Thank you for your reply. The article link that you sent in your reply states that the bedtime feature is available only on iOS 13 or earlier, and I am operating with iOS 15.5."1/2
>>100193222>The iPhone doesn't have 4k.>The iPhone doesn't have reverse wireless charging.>The iPhone literally doesn't have a second screen.>The iPhone doesn't have a built in Stylus.Nor do most android phones.>The iPhone doesn't have dual Bluetooth.It works with Apple-branded hardware.>The iPhone cannot split screen it's apps.Can be done with third-party software or tweaks after jailbreaking.>The iPhone does not support fast charging.>The iPhone won't save more than one account on different apps.But it does.>Not every app can picture-in-picture on Iphone.Same situation on Android.>The iPhones updates have proven to slow down the iPhone to the point that they've been sued for it.Agreed. Each new release of Android is more resource hungry than the last. These are not mutually exclusive facts.>iPhone can't use gifs or videos as backgrounds.If you want animated wallpapers on any of your devices, then you are either retarded, or underage.>Can't customize ringtone or alarm on iPhone with songs you own.But you can: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254756015 And it certainly doesn't require the user to download Garage Band.
>>100193346>clear all buttonThis doesn't actually stop - as in kill - applications in most cases. You have to use third party software for that, or end the task from the memory subsection in developer options.
>>100192436>Another feature that many Android phones do not have.We've has them since 2018 and even cheap chinkphones have them now. iPhone has fingerprint scanner. >How many Android phones come with $120 headphones?iPhones $180 wireless headphones DO NOT COME with $1200 phone. >Another lie.No, you're just a faggot. The iPhone doesn't tell you how long left it has to charge. >>100192647>This can only be done on many Android devices through third party software.Weird and yet "le best phone ever" can't do it at all??? The iPhone cannot close all apps at once. >Lies. It depends on the recording software, just like on Android.On iPhone, you can’t pause or stop a video while recording and no option to flip the camera around while recording>There are separate volume controls for media, and for alerts.The iPhone has no separate volumes. >LieThe iPhone doesn't have an ascending alarm. >What are you even talking about?The iPhone cannot put space in between apps. Pic related. >This is a relatively new feature on Android, but most iOS devices truly do not need it.The iPhone cannot limit RAM usage. >Convergence is not a native feature on 99.9% of Android phones either.The iPhone cannot be turned into a desktop. Samsung and Motorola had this feature for years. >Lie. Of course you can. There are native solutions and more configurable third party solutions.The iPhone cannot record phone calls. >There is third party software for thisThere is no t9 dialing on iPhone.>This isn't entirely trueSome crazy cope. You cannot change height of keyboard on iPhone.>Of course it has a clipboard. What you are referring to is a clipboard buffer Niggas trying to redefine what a clipboard is. The iPhone has no clipboard.>Lie. SeeThat's a video, not a video call. iPhone cannot picture in picture their video calls. >There is a variety of third party software for this, much of which is free.You cannot take long screenshots outside of safari.
>>100193245I'm not talking about a secondary display, I mean a LITERAL SECOND SCREEN.
The iToddler is a paid shill with a micropenis that should be ignored.
>>100193346>>100192436>>100192647Shit points (cont.)>no ascending volume>Lie. See: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254033074>Lie. Thread states that feature was removed in newest iOS. Quote, "Thank you for your reply. The article link that you sent in your reply states that the bedtime feature is available only on iOS 13 or earlier, and I am operating with iOS 15.5."Only way to use this feature is to buy a 300 dollar Apple Watch. Spend more money to get a feature that should be free! https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211685 https://support.apple.com/en-us/100505 "The Bedtime feature is available only on iOS 13 or earlier. If you're using iOS 14 or later, learn how to track your sleep on Apple Watch and use Sleep on iPhone."Either way this is based on sleep and not just an option for your alarms (which it should be).>Can't have gifs or videos as backgrounds>I can't imagine how retarded and underage someone must be to want this.Should at least be given the choice to do this. Not hard to implement. Plenty of people use wallpaper engine on PC.>Can’t pause or stop a video while recording>No option to flip the camera around while recording>Lies. It depends on the recording software, just like on Android.This is natively supported by MOST (not all) stock camera apps on Androids. You shouldn't have to download a separate app to have this functionality. >Can't put space between apps>What are you even talking about?They are referring to the ability to put your apps wherever you want on your home screen launcher. iOS only lets you use a preset grid and you can't have any sort of gaps in between app icons/folders or else it fusses.
>>100193478never mind i agree with the other retard now. the whole foldable fad is dumb as fuck. leaves a shit ass crease that falls apart after a month. just get a pixel and throw calyx/graphine on it and you would be so much better off.
>>100193633>talking about shit you know nothing about>missing the point completelyShhhhhhh... just watch this. https://youtu.be/cgE4F1t92qA?si=iYz-G54jdldRYybp
>>100193346Your assessment is reasonable. I do not own an iPhone, but I putz around with my wife's sometimes, and it's a lot more comfortable in terms of UX than Android is. That being said, I came over to Android from BlackBerry10 devices, and neither Android or iOS come close to that level of responsiveness and thoughtful design. I really miss using the homescreen as a task switcher for minimized application windows, and having a hub where all calls, texts, emails, and social media messages are arranged and searchable.
>>100179003>>i don't use chrome yes firefox and brave are better>or gmailk9 can work fine too.
>Nor do most android phones.most android phones aren't 1000$ flagships retard, it's not a fair comparison
>>100193756>missing the point completelyYou completely missed the point that it's a retarded gimmick. iToddlers aren't the only ones who shill here.
