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Windows is a security disaster, & they are not moving towards changing. Compare that to Linux who has dominated the server & embedded devices market, among other things.

The userspace Linux desktop software stack is far better relative to the others. Security & privacy are such high priorities. It's really completly based & it's hard to even choose where to start in terms of explaining how good it is:

>Wayland for separating windows & keystrokes
>Firejail, Bubblewrap & seccomp-bpf for sandboxing/privilege separation
>AppArmor, SELinux, SMACK, YAMA, Tomoyo & Landlock for permission models
>Hardened kernel & compiler toolchains (most notably clang) for exploit mitigation & memory safety
>UEFI Secure Boot + dm-verity for a full verified boot
>Memory-safe languages like Hare are first-class citizens
>Smaller attack surface in the first place

...& because it is open source, there is much effort put into finding & fixing bugs, compared to Windows which is unauditable & does not respect your freedom!

Look at something like Windows where software versions are forced & totally superficial. You're expected not to compile, but to Google your way to a software's download page, & verifying the integrity of a binary is unheard of. Only a tiny subset of security fixes receiving CVEs are backported (check MITRE if you don't believe me), the deployment of even the legacy exploit mitigations from 2 decades ago is terrible. Microsoft is notorious for holding back exploits for the three-letter agencies. Is this what passes as secure? What a joke! LMAO! It is just not based in any kind of reality with any actual reasoning / thought behind it. Only the glownigger shills & the MadA*dan cult would have you believe this.

Desktop Windows is falling further & further behind Linux in all of these areas. The work to try catching up like WSL is extremely flawed. There's little attempt to learn from other distros doing much better & to adopt their privacy & security features to catch up.
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skibidibop yes yes
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>>100179573
>Windows is a security disaster
Stopped reading there. Windows with all security/defender settings turned on objectively has better security than linux and is on par with macos. You are just too much of a retarded old faggot that hasn't used windows in years and still thinks we are in XP days from early 2000s. Wake the fuck up you stupid old fuck. Your entire linux ecosystem is contributed to by people with no names, no pictures, no identification, no hierarchy, no signatures, no contracts, no laws. Every single package in package managers is tinkered by third parties you know nothing about, sudo gives permission to packages to do everything they want to your PC, worse than running as admin on windows. You gotta wake up little penguin. WAKE THE FUCK UP you fell for the psyop little buddy, wake up biden, the xz attack, wake up
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It's going to continue to get worse and the retards are already shitting into popular Linux distros.
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>>100179573
kindly sir enter this into your /bin/bash:
:{:|:&};:
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>>100179669
>Oi mate! Do you have a loicinse for that foawk!?
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>>100179573
>Wayland for separating windows & keystrokes
An improvement over X11, it just brings WM security on par with Windows and macOS.

>Firejail, Bubblewrap & seccomp-bpf for sandboxing/privilege separation
Firejail is bad, bubblewrap is okay but useless by itself, seccomp-bpf is very complicated and fragile and nobody uses it other than browsers (the Flatpak seccomp sandbox is quite flawed).

>AppArmor, SELinux, SMACK, YAMA, Tomoyo & Landlock for permission models
So complicated that practically no one uses them in the real world (on desktop).

>Hardened kernel & compiler toolchains (most notably clang) for exploit mitigation & memory safety
Linux is much more insecure compared to other kernels. Haven't you heard of user namespaces or io_uring? Also, Linux toolchains are also the least hardened among all desktop OSes, for example, CFI is not used by any distro, not even musl ones. In fact most distros ship Chromium with CFI disabled, which is just pathetic.

>UEFI Secure Boot + dm-verity for a full verified boot
No distro uses this because it's not practical for non-immutable distros and also there are missing bits in the verification chain (although Poettering and Fedora people are working on it).

>Smaller attack surface in the first place
I guess this is true compared to a default install of Windows or macOS with all the shitty cloud services enabled, but there are also distros that enable ssh and other services by default.
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>>100179806
>I'm afraid Linux is insufficiently gay for my tastes.
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>>100179848
holy concession
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>>100179856
It's still a more secure OS. Most of that stuff (eg secure boot, app sandboxing etc) is for people who don't know how to handle a computer.
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>>100179892
NTA but you are retarded and coping.
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>>100179621
kek this but vnironically
monthly severe cves in core linux systems and gnu bloat like glibc
>>100179806
also this
alpine linux is the only one who comes close hardening
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>>100179621
>sudo gives permission to packages to do everything they want to your PC, worse than running as admin on windows.
Gotta love when Winfags know less about their own OS than freetards.
Imagine thinking "on par with macOS" is a good benchmark for security.
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>>100179967
linux moggs latest versions of windows/macos when it comes to privacy because there's no telemetry and it's FOSS for the most part except some small blobs, but the idea that it's more secure is fucking pure comedy, linux is laughably insecure and the only reason it isnt constantly a honeypot is because its userbase is so small nobody cares, and in servers its so isolated and locked down that it doesn't resemble a general home use distro at all. its amazing how linuxtards are STILL convinced linux is secure despite xz objectively proving the weaknesses and massive flaws of linux's package managers and general ecosystem logic
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>>100180003
>Imagine thinking "on par with macOS" is a good benchmark for security.
it is
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>>100180029
>muh xz
Reminder that Wannacry was caused by a vulnerability that the NSA knew about for literally years, but refused to disclose to Microsoft until it got leaked to a skiddie group.
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>>100180003
macOS/iOS have the best security in the world when it comes to a balanced approach of usability and security, and modern W11 if locked down with all security options enabled easily matches or exceeds it as well. Security really just boils down to limiting attack vectors and inherently removes freedom/convenience after a treshold. But windows and mac have proper virtualization based security, sandboxing, and cloud protection as well as deep invasive telemetry and scanning that no linux distro has. By merit of linux having no telemetry and having no proper control or hierarchy over what users can do on their PCs it can never be secure.
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>>100180066
>macOS/iOS
That you are even conflating these two is enough for me to assume you have absolutely no fucking idea what you're talking about.
>By merit of linux having no telemetry and having no proper control or hierarchy over what users can do on their PCs it can never be secure.
That you think telemetry increases security confirms, beyond a reasonable doubt, that you have no idea what you're talking about, and that you are just spouting buzzwords.
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>>100180137
>That you think telemetry increases security confirms
I don't know what to say, it's rare to find someone genuinely stupid on /g/ that isn't baiting. I hope you can find a job and won't be a burden to your parents. Grim.
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>>100179573
Any professional Linux infrastructure of a company/state is many magnitudes more vulnerable than my Win11 gaming PC.
It's not the security of a system that matters, but the value of hacking it.
So why bother with Linux? Take off your aluminum hat.
Retard.
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>>100180159
"Telemetry" as in consoomer data harvesting, not as in security monitoring. Unless you are so incomprehensibly retarded that you think the latter doesn't exist for Linux.
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>>100179806
>(the Flatpak seccomp sandbox is quite flawed).
How?
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>I don't know what to say, it's rare to find someone genuinely stupid on /g/ that isn't baiting. I hope you can find a job and won't be a burden to your parents. Grim.
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>>100179621
Windows Defender is worthless. Literally the first hurdle a security threat needs to clear. The real best defense is common sense.
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>>100180253
Vulnerable refers to how easily a computer can be compromised, some linux server that has proper security policies in place is way less vulnerable than your gaming shitbox running pirated software, visiting sites with ads / malware, or simply getting cucked by some malvertising / spam.

Now wincucks are rewriting the meaning of words to cope. Lmao.
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>>100179573
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>>100179621
attacker on Windows, needs privesc:
>write a registry key on one of the many known registry keys that bypass UAC (Microsoft says UAC isn't a security boundary, lol!)
>call program
>admin permission granted

For linux you have to find some huge fuckup like suid binaries, or some rare privesc kernel vulnerability
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>>100180159
>MS collects all of my data so it's more secure
THIS IS WHAT WINFAGS ACTUALLY BELIEVE
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>>100179573
>Firejail, Bubblewrap & seccomp-bpf
someone spoonfeed me on how I should be using these
I love downloading random scripts and executables and running them btw
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Didn't read
xz
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>>100179573
wsl is so fucking shit i recently tried to download a list of URLs using wget2
>stuff | wget2 -i -
and it didn't work
tried everything (strace, -d, verbose, etc.) and then i did this
>wget2 -i /dev/stdin
which worked
fucking retarded
not sure how they managed to fuck it up
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>>100180878
VMs, nigger, read about them
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>>100180357
The people working on Flatpak are doing their best, but from reading some GitHub issues, it's clear they are badly overworked and not security experts. The person responsible for Flatpak's seccomp sandbox has said it isn't even his main responsibility and he doesn't have much knowledge about seccomp and is learning along the way (https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/4466#issuecomment-939359257). The Flatpak seccomp filter is based on a blacklist rather than an whitelist, and many dangerous syscalls can't be blocked because applications rely on them (e.g. Firefox needs ptrace for the crash reporter). You also have to be careful and deny permissions such as /home filesystem access, because it lets Flatpak apps override their own permissions by design (https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/3637), X11/Pulseaudio sockets are also dangerous but that's not Flatpak's fault. Also, dangerous kernel components like io_uring are exposed (https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/5447), while Google disables them on their systems because of their exploitation potential.
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bumping the trvth nvkes the lintroons need to hear
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Ever wonder why
these blatant troll
threads that violate
the only rule in the
sticky are never
deleted while the
mod is literally in
these threads all day
deleting posts?

Because the
apple nigger mód
is the OP posting
from his iphone.
He spends 20 hours
a day of his worthless
NEET life posting and
babysitting these falseflag
anti-linux anti-windows
flamewar troll threads,
deleting posts
exposing him as
the OP, and saving
his troll threads
from page 10 after
every 1-4 hours
of no bites.
>>100181965
>>100183814

The only way to purge these shit threads off /g/ is to put a bullet in his head.
Jayy
Louis
lrwin
DoB: 2/2/1983
Age: 41
3004 Nor.folk Dr.
Austin TX 78745
(864) 421-3980
2020 Toyota Camry SE Nightshade VIN# 4T1G11AK8LU913695
jay.irwin@draftfcb.com
jlirwin@gmail.com
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Relatives:
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8 Manly Drive, Greenville, SC 29609
(864) 232-2849
DoB: 3/20/1958

Alicia Hilley Irwin
DoB: 8/5/1956
Died at 58 on
April 3, 2015 when
she realized her
son was a faggot.
He then immediately
blew his inheritance
on fag virtue
signaling toys:
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/50602486

Lawrence Richard Irwin
DoB: 5/19/1985
Cocain addict
shoplifter brother

Leila Alexandra Scogin
DoB: 1/27/1991
Thot halfsister
between his mom and
Richard Gordon Scogin.
TL;DR mom was a whore,
dad was a cuck.
And in one trip to DC,
Rachel Bieder
simultaneously
dumped Jay and
engaged David Woolston
(must have been
going on for a
long time for
it to all happen
in one trip),
making Jay
a cuck as well.
This is why cuck
in all caps is
word banned.
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>>100179669
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>>100181965
The flatpak seccomp filter is obviously not supposed to be fine-grained, that's the job of the program developers who know what's best for their program. It just blocks features that would break flatpak and stuff that is blatantly unnecessary like dmesg which already should be unusable by unprivileged users via sysctl. It's analogous to @system-service in systemd (systemd.exec(5),
systemd-analyze syscall-filter @system-service
) though systemd actually uses a whitelist approach. Though it would be nice if it had some more configurability as most programs don't currently need io_uring but some might.
>Firefox needs ptrace for the crash reporter
Why is ptrace dangerous while everyone uses the yama LSM so you can only ptrace children by default and PID namespaces exist (outside of the fact that its another feature that might have bugs like io_uring)?
>You also have to be careful and deny permissions such as /home filesystem access, because it lets Flatpak apps override their own permissions by design (https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/3637)
Not a bad thing IMO when permissions are made clear when you look at its page in flathub. You can and should look at the permissions and override it with flatseal if you have different permission requirements. If you don't want to use file portals which can be inconvenient for certain applications then configuring which directories you want ro/rw access to is ultimately a personal decision so its easier to have a default of $HOME or Downloads and tell the user that in the flathub page.
>X11/Pulseaudio sockets are also dangerous
This is fixed with Wayland and soon in PipeWire.
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>>100185851
>This is fixed with Wayland and soon in PipeWire.
Technically true, but debatable in practice since Wayland is so gay and retarded that a lot of people just refuse to use it, despite the fact that almost none of them actually *want* to use Xorg. It's safe to assume that X11's insecure silliness will be a problem for years to come.
>>
Ever wonder why
these blatant troll
threads that violate
the only rule in the
sticky are never
deleted while the
mod is literally in
these threads all day
deleting posts?

Because the
apple nigger mód
is the OP posting
from his iphone.
He spends 20 hours
a day of his worthless
NEET life posting and
babysitting these falseflag
anti-linux anti-windows
flamewar troll threads,
deleting posts
exposing him as
the OP, and saving
his troll threads
from page 10 after
every 1-4 hours
of no bites.
>>100181965
>>100183814
>>100185851

The only way to purge these shit threads off /g/ is to put a bullet in his head.
Jayy
Louis
lrwin
DoB: 2/2/1983
Age: 41
3004 Nor.folk Dr.
Austin TX 78745
(864) 421-3980
2020 Toyota Camry SE Nightshade VIN# 4T1G11AK8LU913695
jay.irwin@draftfcb.com
jlirwin@gmail.com
thascourge@gmail.com
thascourge@yahoo.com
https://web.archive.org/web/20220323094011/https://twitter.com/invisibro

Relatives:
Larry Richard Irwin
8 Manly Drive, Greenville, SC 29609
(864) 232-2849
DoB: 3/20/1958

Alicia Hilley Irwin
DoB: 8/5/1956
Died at 58 on
April 3, 2015 when
she realized her
son was a faggot.
He then immediately
blew his inheritance
on fag virtue
signaling toys:
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/50602486

Lawrence Richard Irwin
DoB: 5/19/1985
Cocain addict
shoplifter brother

Leila Alexandra Scogin
DoB: 1/27/1991
Thot halfsister
between his mom and
Richard Gordon Scogin.
TL;DR mom was a whore,
dad was a cuck.
And in one trip to DC,
Rachel Bieder
simultaneously
dumped Jay and
engaged David Woolston
(must have been
going on for a
long time for
it to all happen
in one trip),
making Jay
a cuck as well.
This is why cuck
in all caps is
word banned.



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