How the fuck do you protect your data from flipped bits?
>>100181362With ECC ram and resilient file systems
>>100181362Yes yes, we all saw that video in our "feed" or whatever on youtube too, I know you're excited to share what your parasocial friends told you with your other group of parasocial friends, but you're an idiot and an NPC who doesn't understand just how retarded you really are.
>>100181362What if he's just a cheater who came up with this bullshit?
Never happens.
>>100181362This was debunked, sweetheart <3
>>100181362how do they know it was le heccin space beam though?
>>100181460because it totally wasn't a fed bit flipping attack, it's totally a beam, trust me bro
>>100181460are you saying that xhe lied? that's transphobic
>>100181362Depends where the bit flip happened>if in ramYou need ECC ram, thank Intel for not having it in desktop pcs. "You don't need it bro.">if in storageA checksumming filesystem with parity.
>>100181390Thanks for saying what we all thought.
>>100181390/thread
>>100181390SPBP
>>100181460science!
>>100181362You guys don't believe this right? You'd need to have really low IQ to actually believe that a space beam flipped the bits on some random guys video game.
>>100181362Ionizing particle? More like lyin'-ass article!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj8DzA9y8ls
>>100181362How long before speedtrooners start sourcing ionizing isotopes to improve their times?
>>100181377regular ECC can only protect against single bit flips though. If more than one happens to flip at the same time you're fucked
>>100181850actually it happens all the time, and only brainlets think it must be fake
>>100181850I mean, you're getting pelted with them right now. Like, right now. Your DNA is being rewritten by cosmic rays with literally every breath.Your body expends a massive amount of energy toward fixing these mutations so you don't just instantly get cancer.People who call it unlikely are idiots, even if it isn't what caused the upwarp.
>>100181881I'm not watching your video. Give it to me in text form or it simply doesn't exist to me.
>>100182622The footage of the original assumed bit flip couldn't have been from an ionized particle, it was likely the fact that the runner had a faulty cartridge he had to move around, which is likely to flip many bits at once at the slightest of movement from the cartridge
So if bits are likely to 'flip' so easily how the fuck does any program manage to run?
>>100181362I FREAKING LOVE SCIENCE
>>100181362plastic apparently shields these type of radiation from space. or better yet you could make a underwater lead-roof bunker but then you'd be exposed to radioactive gasses and particles/stones beneath so the best thing to do is just get a fucking thick slab of plastic and put it on top of your PC case or storage devices.
Pretty sure it was a slightly tilted cartridge.
Yeah either a ultra rare coincidence happened that helped him achieve that or he cheated
>autistic giga-forevervirgin cheats>"no-no-it was HEECIN SCIENCE!">omg omgI don't know what the most disgusting part of the whole story is desu.
>>100181850Happens occasionally, so it's not entirely impossible, but its very rare and older chips with thicker conductors inside are more resilient to it.
Just don't count the run or mark it tool assisted. Who cares?
>>100181362reboot your machine when it happens
>>100182102>If more than one happens to flip at the same timeThat's about as likely to happen as getting struck by lightning then eaten by a shark while having a winning lottery ticket in your pocket.
>>100182710>which is likelytilting a cartridge or making a setup to test a simple cartridge contact is very easily replicable, just like goldeneye geddan glitch, so you should be able to replicate it.
>>100182912Cosmic bit flips are extremely rare, and ECC RAM handles them regardless.
>>100182912>what is error correction
>>100183859>extremely rareif by rare you mean "happens several times a week or even day on every PC in the world" sureone bit isn't usually enough to matter, cosmic rays aren't the only way to flip a bit, and there's loads of error correcting code
>>100183765I recall the video mentions that the aforementioned speedrunner did have, with certainty, a problematic cartridge.
sitx or rar/par
>>100181362Jesus Christ what manner of autism is this?
>>100181362> how do i keep falling for the same fake news bait posted around the internet for years by fucking niggers and computer illiterates?you're just fucking moron.>>100181390>Yes yes, we all saw that video in our "feed" or whatever on youtube tooand not a single word of it is true.>>100181460easy. you just lie. >>100184165probably hacked cartridge. it's not like these speedrunning organizations get gamers to submit dumps of the roms they're playing. it works on a completely "trust me bro" basis when it comes to real hardware. as long as they see you playing it on video that's all that counts.
>>100184131>if by rare you mean "happens several times a week or even day on every PC in the world" sureno by rare I mean it likely never happened to any single person in this thread and likely never will
>>100182558and I don't feel it, something like that cannot flip bits, retard
>>100184474It has probably happened to everyone in this thread today on at least one of their devices.It was one flip per 256 mb per month in the fucking 90s when transistors were a fraction of the density. It's only gotten EASIER to flip a bit with time. It will only continue to get easier.DDR5 is basically ECC RAM, so it doesn't matter as much. But it will happen more.https://spectrum.ieee.org/how-to-kill-a-supercomputer-dirty-power-cosmic-rays-and-bad-solder
>>100185031>everything needs higher voltage to work>has become easier for insignificant particles to flip bitswhy are intel making me use over 1 volt if one electron is all I need?
>>100185047Why don’t you go learn about semiconductors and what a particle can do to them and then you might understand.
>>100181584>A checksumming filesystem with parity.raid
>>100185107nothing, if you weren't lying I wouldn't have to pay electricity bills for my computer use
>>100181362ZFS. Raid Z2. zpool scrub pool0. That will correct flipped bits as long as not too many bits per parity bits have been flipped.
just use a good filesystem + ECC if you really have autism about it
>>100185309which fs
>test it with script at the same time>wow lol works just like his speed run that's insane!!!>ignore he cheated>i didn't crash my car! a meteorite musta gone through it!>hit car with giant rock at supersonic speeds>wow car is damaged also!
how many children were molested tho
>>100181460Do you think he had his computer sitting in an x-ray machine? No other options really
>>100186750z
>>100181362ECC mainly.>>100182102You're not fucked if you accept that the machine stops on two bit errors.
>>100181460It's the most probable option since we're constantly getting blasted by gamma rays from the sun.But maybe he has uranium on his desk as a speed run strat.
>>100181362what fucking retard believes this.
>>100187228new speedrun meta is getting more interesting
>>100182912Where do you think those weird random bugs that happen only once and get fixed once you restart the program/computer happen?
>>100184180>probably hacked cartridgeNow that you mention it... isn't it pretty trivial to hack a rom to manipulate some RNG to just make it appear as if you got really lucky? You'd just have to make sure there isn't some way to predict RNG results via gamestate or some shit.
Bazinga!
