You have about 10 seconds to explain to the rest of us why you are still not using Linux on your PC and laptop.
>>100194778Windows 10 just werks
Arch on my PersonalCoomputer and ChromeOS on my Chromelaptopbook. I'm a total Linux FREEEEEEEEEEEAK
>>100194797>windows 10 just takes 10 seconds to open file explorerFTFY
>>100194812Retard
>>100194778Nvidia and Wayland still ain't good on Linux.
laziness
>>100194855Nvidia is fine, and Wayland is still not mandatory (and never will be)
No software worth using works in Linux, and the things that do work in Linux work better on Windows.
>>100194855Nvidia works except no GPU accelerated video decoding with browsers. No gsync with multi monitors. And 30% decrease in performance most the time.Wayland is shit and don't care.
>>100194778Don't loike it. Simple as.
>>100194778Wish I could, but the available image editing programs are not quite on par.
>>100194922all these little problems barely matter when you make the switch and realize just how garbage winbloats actually is. I'm a n00b and yet I'm never going back to winbloats.
>>100194954I use linux with a 4080 anon, just being honest.
>>100194922you can get hw decoding on Firefox if you have turing+https://github.com/elFarto/nvidia-vaapi-driver
>>100194972Ah right, I forgot I actually did get this to work in firefox. Chrome was a no go however.
>>100194778>this whole retarded wayland disasterThinking of switching back to Windows.
>>100194778There's software that I need that is not currently available for Linux.
>>100195051name them all
>>100194812things that didn't happen since 1998 for 100, Alex
>>100195061Quickbooks
But i use linux on my homeserver
>>100195061Sure.>Affinity Photo>Affinity Designer>Quixel Mixer>Maxon ZBrush>Marvelous Designer
>>100195072um, QBO? you have to use the desktop version, the less popular version?
>>100194778I didn't find a single cloud drive for Linux that has the Smart sync feature integrated in file explorer.
>>100195099This is probably the most popular reason people don't switch to linux. There is an open source version of everything you just named but you would have to learn how to work all of them. Many such cases!
Linux has freezing problems on every single distro except Ubuntu 22.04 and 24.04. I just use windows because it's so aggravating. I do really like Ubuntu tho
>>100194778Last time I used linux I used it for half a year (ubuntu), and I quit when my HDD got to be read only and I didn't figure out how to fix it. I still have no idea why it happened out of nowhere.
>>100195125>open soresthey all suck. like libre office
>>100194778i like windows :) also my drawing software doesnt support lincucks and all the ones that do are ass "buh-buh-buh-krita" no.
>>100195156use a newer kernel
>>100195181>I still have no idea why it happened out of nowhere.Could just be a hardware problem. Those can happen with any OS, I've seen them with Windows, Linux and macOS. HW problems always suck.
>>100194778Debian isn't available on M series macs
>>100194778my mobo + GPU combo is not compatible with my favorite distro and I really do not want to use anything else. I would rather emulate it within a VM
>>100195249I had the freezes on arch and tumbleweed with newest kernels.
ask a linux user aboutgnome:>shitcinnamon:>shitkde:>shitlxde:>shitlxqt:>shitmate:>shitdebian:>shitubuntu:>shitarch:>shitfedora:>shitgentoo:>shitnix:>shitlet me know when you can recommend a secure linux distro and desktop environment that isn't a direct downgrade or sidegrade to windows in every way except>muh customization>muh disable telemetrywithout the majority of the linux "community" disagreeing with youlinux is shit and you should feel bad for shilling it
>>100194778Installing specific versions of software on Linux is a fucking disastrous nightmare amalgamation of 4+ different copium ways of packing an entire mini-OS along with the program all because the system can't into static linking.Docker, flatpak, snap, appimage, all dogshit.Give me program-v1.2.6.exe anyday.
>>100194778It sucks. Also too many distroos.
>>100194778Because "your PC and laptop" implies that:>1: A laptop is not a PC>2: I have another PC besides my laptopBoth of which are false. I am obviously running Linux on my laptop PC because I am not a massive faggot.
>>100195569You're trying too hard newfren.
>>100194778it doesn't just work
I primarily use linux mint but I have one busted old laptop where I use pirated windows 7 It's where I escape from everything after 2015 :)
>>100194778Nvidia
Why would I have a PC and a laptop? Seems wasteful
>>100195332>I asked /lit/ what was the best book ever written and the anons disagreed with each other, therefore all books are shit
>>100194778but I am sir>>100195332I'm glad you didn't include xfce in your list of shit, mousebro
>>100196968I'm using Linux on 2 nvidia machines without issue. must be a skill issue
>>100194778already using it on my laptop. not using it on my desktop cuz nvidia drivers suck for linux. My Next GPU will probably be AMD and then I'll probably daily run Linux on my desktop as well.>>100194828>>100195070nta but I find if I have more than maybe 50 media files in the same folder in Windows, explorer often freaks out and does this weird thing where it like needs to re-load the folder and takes at-least a minute before it's usable again. 10 has done it to me for like a decade, even on different computers, and the one desktop (my current) with win 11 also does it (tho seemingly less frequently but still)>>100194910>Nvidia is finehow you get it to be fine? I'd probly stick with nvidia for now and put linux on my desktop rn if there's a way to make nvidia not suck and don't need to do programmer/hacker lookin shit for 8+ hours, only for it to fail loading the DE for no fucking reason 2 days later.>>100194922>30% decrease in performanceIs that at all times because of the driver or is that some emulation type shit like proton?>>100194947I've come far enough in Linux that I am comfortable to completely replace windows. adobe is the only reason I'd even consider dual booting.
>>100195332cinnamon>good
>>100197623>cuz nvidia drivers suck for linuxreally depends on what distro you use and how cryptic their driver install process is, imo. I use Arch on 2 nvidia machines and it's just as easy as selecting "nvidia nonfree" on archinstall to make everything work perfectly out of the boxI did install nvidia-dkms instead because I'm using zen kernel instead of the stock one, but it still works perfectly fine3070Ti on desktop, Intel UHD630 + 2060 on laptop (yes, Optimus also works, though more of a hassle to setup)
>>100197623>>100197717also forgot to add, but that anon who says there's no hardware decoding on browsers is full of shit also. I have full hardware decoding on Firefox, you need to manually enable a few things in about:config and install the VAAPI driver, but it works
>>100194778Linux was slow on my machine. Also my Bing Bing wahoos stuttered / hitched.
>>100194778>still not using Linux on your PCI need adobe shit for work.>and laptopI need 8+ hours of battery life, windows can give me that, troonix discharges it to 0 in about 5-6 hours. Free shit as always sucks.
>>100194778I went far out of my way to get Arch on a Macbook and I really, really like it. I get why people use proprietary software, though. Not everyone has the sheer autistic power that we have. They're for normies, people who play Candy Crush.
>>100194778because i only have a laptop - it is monobooting linux thoughever
>>100194778I do, I just dual boot windows for when I occasionally want to play vidya twice a week
>>100194778Because Windows came pre-installed on my computer and Linux does literally nothing better so I have no motivation to install it and deal with it's many headaches.
>>100195385BUT ANONWHY WOULD YOU EVER NEED TO NOT RUN BLEEDING EDGE SOFTWARE?
>>100195569>I am not a massive faggot.The rest of your post casts doubt.
But I am.
>>100194778But I'm using it on my home server
>>100194778gayming
>>100197342depends on the reader
I have not used Linux since 2019 and going back to it would require study and hours spent configuring an Arch installation.
>>100194778I am using arch linux and I like it because I can talk about it at the bus stop and I start naming another distro once things get awkward to keep the conversation going lol
why should i go out of my way to install it?
>>100194778It's on my list of things to do this year.
>>100194778I have no idea how to and I am scared of fucking shit up anon.
if i would buy myself laptop then i would using linux on it but on my pc there is no way i go for linux when i want it to play games sometimes
>>100199557USB-Stick, that way you can keep your computer as is, but still are able to get comfortable with Linux. By then, you can learn how to dual-boot, and then you can still use Windows if necessary.
>>100199677I'm sorry anon but I'm not a /g/ person and have no idea what you mean, can you PLEASE explain it in a bit more depth? sounds like a actually convenient solution
>>100199730Lol, lmao even.
mostly VR at this point i had ALVR working but it looked sugnifigan4tly worse than through the meta desktop app not sure how much i can improve it either
>>100199730>uninstall your brain now, it's bloat and closed source.Kek
>>100194778I have a girlfriend.
>>100194778Linux sucks
>>100199820have you seen this girlfriend in RL?
>>100194778Because Linux actually works on my machine and Windows doesn't (AMD)
>>100199859>my machine >implying you own it
>>100197376Arch-chan sex
>>100198123With Linux you get exactly the version that the package manager has. That's it.On many distros the version is old.On others its bleeding edge.If you want to install a specific version you're completely at the mercy of the program's developer.Did they spent 1000hours setting up Git(Hub|Lab) CI/CD pipelines? If not, you probably aren't getting a version that runs on all distros.Did they go out of their way to avoid all modern syscalls and target the oldest glibc that they could get their hands on? If not, it wont work on anything older than the OS on their dev box.Linux is pain.Developing for Linux is pain.Anyone who says otherwise has never distributed their programs to other users across more than one target distro.
>>100199949flatpak just werks>b-b-but flatpak just werks
>>100200054niggerlicious cancer >>100199949I would defend autotools but you're absolutely correct. I am happy I don't need to write portable software and that there's people autistic enough to provide me with what I need, for free.
>>100196226Trying to hard to do what?>newfrenI admit, I am a newfag, I have only been here since 2011. Still probably longer than you.>>100198131>implying
>>100194778Linux can't play games. Simple As.
>>100194778I'm not trans
Linux is gay
>>100199896Good point, anon.
>>100194778Valorant.
>>100194778There's simply no better alternative to Office.
>>100201346Also you can't play Valorant on Linux.
>>100201169You are trans btw.
>>100201376meh csgo is better
>>100194778>Adobe suite>ArcGIS Pro>Microsoft officeFreeFag alternatives to these things are borderline unusable.
>>100200496>niggerlicious cancer You retards literally do things the hard way, then complain when it's hard. Packaging software for distros isn't the developer's job, btw.
>>100194778Laptop runs Apple Silicon PC runs Debian Stable though, but it’s my 5th most used computing device behind my phone
>>100199727>get usb>put ventoy on it>put linux iso on it >put gparted live on it>restart >bios>launch from usb>restart>gparted live>format harddriveif you want to dual boot (can turn into a glitchy mess where windows 10 craps the bed and won't ever work again)>partition hard drive into 2 halves>put windows 10 on 1 half (check /fwt/)>(install ghost spectre superlite on top)>put debian on the other halffirst though put virtual box on windows and launch a few linux isos and see if you like themyou might not have any reason to switchI use linux because my laptop is crap and windows 10 kills it after a few weeks, it is a compromise, I can still use this dusty old piece of hardware, but I can't do a lot of the things I used to, DAWs for example suck on linux, adobe is vastly superior to anything on linux, etcbut for a file storing writing machine linux is vastly superior to windows, it can be rock solid stable that back ups aren't nearly as essential as they are in windows, which can just break itself
so... fresh install time openSUSE, or debian? I want xfce, MX it comes as standard, but MX is same as antix? antix is crap, just a clash of software for the sake of muh ram, puts me off MX
>>100194778I have years of experience on windows and I'm so used to it that I can fix or do anything I may want without any guides. It also just works for all my needs and supports all my hardware and software I am interested in. The better question is why the fuck would I ever even consider linux? There's not a single feature I need from it.
I do use Linux thougheveras a Subsystem under Windows
>>100199727https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/try-ubuntu-before-you-install#1-getting-startedget used to googling questions. Linux systems aren't very difficult but there is an initial learning curve.
>>100201435ok boomer. i'mma just play valorant 'n chill
>>100194778I've tried switching recently, but bounced back. Here's some issues I remember having:>discord streaming has no sound>audio in general is quieter than on Windows for some reason>can't minimize thunderbird to tray>desktop icon layout gets fucked up on each boot (this happens on windows too but ReIcon exists there thankfully)
>>100199949This is why Loonux will NEVER succeed.DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERSBallmer knew his shit
because on Windows I can do literally everything could I do on Linux - but it's not possible in opposite way (Linux is unable to run a lot of software from Windows)
>>100194778Used to use linux. Started working for companies that require really locked down windows setups (finance firms lmao). Since then I stopped caring.You can't really get shit like citrix remote running on Linux and it's much easier to have a linux VM running on windows then it is to have a windows VM running on linux because you end up with a shorter chain of VMs/RDP sessions.
>>100197342>book analogy
>>100202619fuck it, let's just make SystemD work as an audio system, display server, desktop environment, and web browser. Let that poettering fag be happy. Let's replace the kernel with SystemD as well.
>>100202649Systemd+Linux will soon be a bigger reality than GNU+Linux, fucking BASED
>>100202619True enough.>>100202649Poettering's wet dream. It'll all work over dbus.
>>100202649don't care as long as it werks
>>100194778The elitism
>>100202619>choice is bad
Mac just works
>>100194778Win 7 just werks
>>100194778>You have about 10 seconds to explain to the rest of us why you are still not using Linux on your PC and laptop.I have all the time I want and I've been using Linux since it existed. I migrated many businesses off Solaris, HP-UX, AIX, SCO, VMS, Dynix PTX, Windows Server to Linux before it was cool.
>>100204753boomer alertpost bank account
>>100195332>ask a linux user about99% of these "linux users" are babyduck windows users who tried the distro for 5 minutes and then went back because it wasn't exactly like windows and then post in every thread how shit it is
>>100204772it's zoomers that post bank accounts now. boomers are l33t.
I'm using Linux since 2005.
>>100204818All the distros weren't cool enough, not running on fewer than 500mb, so I had to customize mine to run everything directly from the bash shell because I am a disgusting savage.
>>100194778>video games either freeze or don't work>nvidia kernel panics>too much work to integrate GTK and QT properly>screen sharing audio problems>even doing simple shit requires command line or editing config fileswho tf would wanna waste their time using this when it all just works fine on windows. Plus the horrible community never helps. they just tell you to RTFM or tell you to never use the app in the first place.
It's simple. If you don't want because you play games that don't have compatibilities, search 2 ssds with 1T more and buy it, and do a multiboot.
>>100202619>windows users being utterly confused and angry at the very idea of being able to chose your audio system, display server, widget toolkit, DE, init system and package managerNo wonder Microsoft keeps forcing them to use Edge, they wouldn't even be able to browse the internet otherwise.
>>100194778I've been on linux since 2017 although if I get a random PC I might keep windows on it just for one reason.
>>100194778File picker icons
>>100207124that's a gtk problem, not a linux problem
>>100194778windows just works for my use cases.i have both ubuntu and mint cinnamon in vms, but i barely use them.
multi monitor issues + audio issues = no bueno
>>100194778I am, but I can't switch full time because of this shit >>100194947I hate Adobe CC with a passion but I need it for work.
I use Windows XP in my modest old computer with a Core 2 Duo and 4GB DDR2, I'm not a stupid consoomer contrary to all of you
>>100199896good tastes anon
>>100207132>yay -S gtk3-patched-filechooser-icon-view glib2-patched thumbnailermakes the issue go away
>>100194855Works fine on my machine. Fedora 40 + KDE + Wayland + Nvidia.
>>100205736>>video games either freeze or don't workhomie stuck in 2010
Laptop is a surface with microsofts arm cpu, Its a massive pain in the ass to get it working on there, could probably run PiOS but I'd have to figure out how the touchscreen and keyboard would factor into that
>>100194778I need to get work done.
>>100209637Now try to install Lego studio 2.0>No linux installer>Nvm, wine time>Oh this bug is weird>Legos are for kids anyway
>>100209735Its seems that Microsoft already won the ARMs race
>>100209998stop it man, you're converting me to the passive-aggressive "um, hello??? just use better software??" nigger faction with this lego shit
>>100209998or just use the Lutris installer and be done with ithttps://lutris.net/games/bricklink-studio/shit literally does all the work for you lmao
>>100194778Because I don't want the only thing to work to be my browser, forcing me to shill Linux in an effort to cope with a bad decision
>>100194778Because I play games from time to time and I don't have time to deal with emulators. Also my work computer is already preinstalled with Windows and I don't think they'd allow me to run Linux there because of tracking software
>>100194778Why would I go on the internet and just lie like that?
T E C HECHV E G A NEGANT H R E A DHREADhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZQ0uf-4Y7c&t=25s
>>100194778I use Windows because the stability and long-term support for the software I use that it does offer is not offered and never has been by open source software.It is sad that kids these days still fall for the Looney-tUnix meme.I hate cloudflare so much.
>>100210570PANTSU
>>100210570>It is sad that kids these days still fall for the Looney-tUnix meme.year of our lord MMXXIV and winfags still think linux users are unix fetishists
>>100209637>2010genshin is 2020+. I've had even csgo+2 (native) freeze on multiple distros
>>100209141yes
