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There's no use case for this thread
This was eventually implemented/thread
>>100334167That's great, GNOME is getting closer to be as usable as Windows 95
>>100334189Windows 95 doesn't even know what zips is.
>>100334308>moving goalpostsBut it knows what drag and drop is
>>100334332You can't just bark "moving goalposts" whenever someone evidences the stupid shit you post, idiot. It doesn't even make sense in this context. You're radioactively stupid.
>>100334148it says quite a lot when the big distros use Gnome as the default DE
>>100334408It says literally nothing
>>100334308The days of SOUL when the OS was just the bare minimum.
>too dumb to join the gnome circle
>>100334367Stop pretending OP is about zip files you gayniggerfaggot, go suck ebussy's cock
You made miguel de icaza cry
>>100334626goodfuck that ifaggot nigger
>>100334167No, it wasn't. It's a 5 years old issue involving GTK and Wayland that hasn't been fixed yet:https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/file-roller/-/issues/4https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/file-roller/-/merge_requests/112
i fucking hate those pre-made folders.
>>100334626>>100334636He doesn't even use GNOME anymore. He jumped ship a long time ago…
>>100334332retard
>>100335604retard
>>100334367You should go fix your trash DE
>>100334828MACCED
>>100334148snap firefox freezes a lot especially when you go to choose a webm or image on 4chani would recommend using librewolf(deb) instead
You are not entitled to drag and drop.
>>100334148>using a mouseYou are not a real Gnomie.
>>100334148dragging from file manager to a lot of programs also doesn't work
>>100336142>cartoon avatar with maskabsolutely disgustingly NPC tier
>>100336217>is drag and drop from file managers really that important?Yes it is you retarded faggot
>still can't open properties dialog for two files at onceLike to see someone defend this one
>Win+T>mv /sample.zip ~A thread died for this
>>100336303drag and drop to extract, from a compressed directory. a normal person right clicks to extract
>>100336183iToddler app library, tablet multitask shit, and extensions made by retards made me never return to that abomination of a desktop. XFCE is the best.
>>100334292Which trannie distro is this? I have never had this happen.
>>100334292literally just works on my machine
>>100334512>diffuse balding bros...
>>100334292this is clearly a bug which will be fixedthe gnome issue isn't even recognize as a bugbig difference
>>100334332>>100334513The issue is being able to drag and drop right out of a zip file which is obviously harder.
>>100336217Why are gnomies like this? This is like asking if pipes in the terminal are really that important.
Fucking Gnome can barely even handle regular file moving and interfaces as it is, never mind a more exotic method like yanking files in and out of archives.It's every other few days where I have to go back and fourth to "unstick" the fact that I can't ctrl+a a fucking folder.Or times where I go in to a folder and OOOO, what's that, you decided to actually NOT load all the files this time? Huh. NEAT.Or the times where it leaves behind temporary files that were deleted HOURS AGO. (file downloads are common for this)Fuck Gnome. I'm moving away from the shit, it is a usability nightmare. Nautilus is hands-down the worst file manager I think I have ever used in my life. At this point using the fucking command prompt would be better and I do VISUAL WORK. I mean Windows one, not the Bash terminal, I mean suffer using Windows shitty command prompt. It's just that much better than goddamn Nautilus is.
>>100337074IT JUST FUCKING HAPPENED RIGHT AFTER I POSTED THISFUCK OFF GNOME, KILL YOURSELF
>>100334408yea, that they're a bunch of fucking retarded petty idiots who place licensing politics over what's best for their usersliterally the only reason gnome continues to exist is because faggots still continue to have conniption fits over Qt's old license
I'm feeling weak... I think I'm going to finally submit to GNOME
Even ReactOS can drag and drop out of archives, come on gnome
>>100334292B-b-but! But!! Kde!! Krash!!!!Yeah but what you're showing would get a reaction like "thank you for your report, this is a problem, we're working on it now" from the kde team probably on the same dayThis drag and drop issue has been a problem for 5 years and gnome devs are refusing to fix it and instead chiding people who are astounded at drag and drop not working, and saying stuff like "is drag and drop really so important? You're so entitled!" Windows Me could do this shit over 20 years ago.It says a lot that this is how you respond to people pointing out how fucked gnomes development community is
>>100337476That's a whole lotta words, but GNOME just works and KDE doesn't.
>>100334148>trying to use a feature that never existed to begin withyou're dumb
>>100334148Thunar doesn't have this problem.>>100337344Freaky ass nigga.
>>100337620Gnome, the desktop for people who can't read. Now I understand their obsession with dumbing everything down and removing as many features as possible
>>100336217Why does he keep calling himself a volunteer all the time? He must understand that people know who he is and that he gets paid to work on gnome, but he says it anyway? Everyone from Red Hat does the same thing too. What am I missing?
>>100334148More like Gaylanded
>>100334292Unironically works on my machine
>>100336217Drag and drop from an archive manager seems like a very basic and important feature
>>100336142How the fuck do you go from caring enough about computing freedom and software ethics to develop an alternative to kde in the 90s because of a licensing disagreement,to enthusiastically giving shit loads of money to one of the most reprehensible anti-customer anti-hacker closed source proprietary big corps around?
>>100337774The answer is always (((them)))
>>100334292at least their devs will work on it if you report those bugs.
>>100338335and create 10 more on the process.
>>100338363Meanwhile in reality, everyone loves 5.27 for being stable and having less bugs than previous releases, and Plasma 6 will likely get there too.
>>100334163what are the origins of the use case meme?
>>100334292
>>100334148humiliation ritual
>>100338383>Plasma 6 will likely get there too.And it'll only take five years, at which point Plasma 7 will have released rendering it obsolete.
>>100336142>mask
>>100337774It's called becoming an adult, don't worry buddy one day you'll grow out of being 13 too.
>>100338387afaik it's the gnome music player issue about the volume slider, the mental acrobatics they attempt there to ignore the issue are amazing.
>>100337746>(((Red Hat)))Yeah really gets the noggin jogging
>>100338383>>100338413imo 6.0.4 is close to that.However 5.27 is stable because its an LTS release, It got 11 bugfixes while other releases while other releases get 5 at best.I am not sure when the next LTS release will be.
>>100337746They probably don't want to let the actual volunteers to realize that they are working for a multimillion dollar company for free while others are getting paid while doing a worse job
>>100338413>And it'll only take five years>at which point Plasma 7 will have released rendering it obsoletesure thing anon :^)meanwhile, in the real world, people running Tumbleweed say Plasma 6 is fairly stable.>>100338465>It got 11 bugfixes while other releases while other releases get 5 at best.I think you meant bugfix releases. As far as I know, each of those minor releases included tens of bugfixes (many of which were backported to the version released with Debian 12, which is one of the reasons KDE is having a popularity boom recently).
>>100336439What if you only want one file from the zip?
>>100337013Morning saar
>>100336217EBASEDI
>>100336217Holy based. What a sigma gigachad. Love him
>>100334148I hate side menu
>>100338610Anyone who doesn't use a bottom task bar that autohides is a psychopath in my books.
>>100338610the side menu is ubuntu's gnome. vanilla gnome is only the top panel, no desktop icons, no minimize / maximize buttons.
>>100334148no one wants to drag files between two windowsno one wants to see tumbnails
>>100338648What about a top task bar?
>>100338659Why? It gets in the way of programs like browser tabs, especially in autohide mode. Just keep it at the bottom with the start menu in the bottom left corner. Desktop environment developers are sacrificing efficiency and simplicity to avoid looking like Windows, even Microsoft wants to ditch it to look new even though it's already perfect and doesn't need changing.
>>100338760On a laptop the top of the screen is more directly in front of you than the bottom, and I use side tabs anyway.
>>100338421So let me get this straight.Paying thousands of dollars to a company for a laptop that later has the display break (because the battery swole up and broke the display cable) and then charges you ~$500 for repairs, on a thousands dollar laptop, that lived the easiest possible life without being treated roughly and still somehow broke on its own -- you're telling me that this is the responsible adult thing to do? That's how adults use their money, pay to get screwed?
>>100338532>meanwhile, in the real world, people running Tumbleweed say Plasma 6 is fairly stable.That's by the standards of KDE/Tumbleweed users which doesn't count for much at all.
>>100338785You're missing the point extremely hard, to a degree that's almost not funny anymore. The reasonable thing to do is to use whatever works, be that windows, linux or mac to get the job done. But I'm sure wasting your life arguing over bullshit like software ethics or even worse politics tier licensing cuckery that has achieved less than nothing in the last 30 years is the responsible adult thing to do™
You retards are arguing over something that doesn't exist. What's new?
>>100334148>unity died for this
>>100338843Ultimately what you're saying boils down to "having ethics is a waste of time man lol stop making a fuss over it and just give boatloads of money to companies and entities that will screw you over at the first opportunity"
>>100334292im new to linux and that audio settings not appearing thing happened to me. linuxmint using x11. updating the kernel fixed it
>>100336217I kneel
>>100339153GNOME® doesn't have this problem.
>>100339009There is absolutely nothing unethical in running any kind of software.
>want to set a different background for each monitor>have to download a third party program to do that
>>100336217So this is the power of the FOSS community
>>100337745Just because you write walls of text doesn't mean you're saying anything of value.
>>100339246>So this is the power of the FOSS community>filtering out retardsYes.
and yet you fags STILL wont use windowskek
>>100338387you can literally see a good example of that upthread. he constantly asks retarded rhetorical questions (ie. he doesn't care about the use case you'll bring up, he's just asking to sound like there's actual thought put into shit beyond the fact that he didn't like x or y feature) for the simplest most common functionality like here>>100336217
>>100338421wtf i hate "adults" now
>>100338785>That's how adults use their money, pay to get screwed?Actually yes, it's basically the norm nowadays.
>>100339009Are you actually this retarded or are you going to say you're merely pretending?
>>100334163genuinely no use case for anything other than xfce
>>100337774Loads of influential people in FOSS are corporate infiltrators, they're not doing it out of love or genuine passion.
>>100334308clearly gnome hasn't been introduced to extracting yet
>>100337774I forget his name, but the other mexican who co-started GNOME still contributes occasionally and didn't become a faggot like miguel.
>>100338532>many of which were backported to the version released with Debian 12, which is one of the reasons KDE is having a popularity boom recentlyI don't understand why debian decided to backport patches themselves on 5.27.5 instead of simply porting the more up to to date releases
>>100334512i don't get why people who bald like that don't just shave the middle part so that it at least looks clean.
>>100337620>she said on a post showing gnome not working and then crashingshit bait
>>100334292works on my machine :^)
>Please stop reporting that the issue is still present. The problem won't magically go away.I just tried to drag and drop some files from american-dissident_voices_wlp_dr._william_luther_pierce.zip into my "currently listening" folder on my Desktop and it wouldn't work. Go fix it.
>>100337774he stole enough money
XApp should be independenthttps://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4675
>>100339250jesus you must have really severe adhd if you think that's a wall of text lolits probably not even a quarter as long as when you infodump about your favorite band to your boyfriend on discord
>>100336983its so disgustingalmost made me pukezero selfawareness, as expected from footfags
>>100338610It's the most efficient layout for browsing the web though–since there's a lot of horizontal padding on sites.
https://foundation.gnome.org/2023/11/09/gnome-recognized-as-public-interest-infrastructure/https://discourse.gnome.org/t/potential-eu-funding-opportunity-for-gnome-for-2024/18255https://www.osnews.com/story/139472/gnome-foundation-in-financial-trouble/>promise a free software desktop experience to rake in millions in tax payer monies and discuss how to fleece them further>waste it on ???????>don't deliver basic desktop experience functionalityHow is this legal?
>>100337746>Why does he keep calling himself a volunteer all the time?It's a good excuse for being a slacker, volunteer implies that it's just like a hobby and the expectations are different. If people knew that all these years the Gnome Foundation gets around a million a year and they're so lazy they've just left PRs from actual volunteers doing it for free to fester then it's not really a good look for them is it?
>>100336217E B A S S E DBASSED
>>100336217So triggered
So this is the power of Gnome...
>>100336217>4chan onions boys keep malding
>>100339739Debian really likes to Frankenstein stupid retarded shit instead of just using upstream. I get where that comes from but sometimes it goes way too far. and for stuff that's way too complicated and full of ramifications than the average overburdened maintainer can actually manage to handle backporting.
>>100346595it boggles my mind how do many OS installer programs have critical bugs that crash the program. The other day I was on distrowatch reading some recent reviews and ALL of them cited problems with the OS installation programs crashing, some rendering the computers unbootable. Both the literal-who and mainline distributions.Of all the programs in the OS, the installer, the first thing the user interacts with, is the most important. No other programs matter if the user never gets to the point of using them for to giving up installing.It's all done inside a live OS image too. ie. The user name installed a bunch of packages or changed any settings yet. The live environment is identical to what the dev would be seeing.
>>100346595That purple and orange color scheme is so slick. Even the error pop-ups look smooth and sexy in 'buntu.
>>100348170Archinstall is the biggest shitty offender. That shit never works and crashes because it cannot find a hard drive it just found a second ago
>>100345479>1 mil per yearbetween benefits and salaries, how many employees do you imagine these profits would be able to afford? Then imagine you have operating expenses like renting an office, corporate software licenses, etc. 1mil is tiny money
>>100334148
>>100349343at least post the video with soundhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM6imhswsdU
>>100334750the absolute state of desktop linux. holy fucking shit how is this still a problem in 2024>>100337074>Fuck Gnome. I'm moving away from the shit, it is a usability nightmareit's literally the best de on linux though. honestly what are you even going to move to? plasma?
what went wrong?
>>100349947gnome is the popular one, and unfortunately popularity and contributions are intertwined on linux. There's not many DE that can afford to contract developers to work on shit (like recently VRR) and have hundreds of coders + translation teams + outreach...
>>100346595Oh no no no bussi sisters not like this
>>100349947XFCE. It genuinely works better for my use case. Gnome gets in my way and slows me down
>>100355756troons can't handle gnome, gnome is immutable just like their dna.
>>100346595Keep your privilege in check, chud.
>>100336439Drag-and-drop extraction is way more intuitive than right-clicking and extracting the entire archive if you don't need the extract the entire archive. If I have a compressed video library or something I just want to drag my desired video out not my several tens of GB worth of videos all at once. And yes I know it is possible to select individual files to extract otherwise, but drag-and-drop is the most intuitive solution to that.
>>100338938unity was the peak DE, especially when they implemented LIM. hopefully KDE will stop being on fire soon^tm and add it to plasma 6.
>>100338938I miss it and it sucks that the official Unity flavor is developed by a pajeet.
>>100348338>between benefits and salaries, how many employees do you imagine these profits would be able to afford?>Then imagine you have operating expenses like renting an office, corporate software licenses, etc. 1mil is tiny moneythe audience of this board is stupid neets at peak dunning-kruger, so it sounds like massive amounts of money to them...
ebussy sucks
Explain to me how drag and drop isn't bloat
macOS doesn't have this problem.
>>100356097Troons fucking love Gnome. It is Mac OS with all the important bits missing, just like them.
>>100365121It's not. Hope that helps.
>>100365402kek the way the window jumps around reminds me of how unpolished GNOME is. I thought mac was supposed to be better.
>>100366524It's your shitty FOSS trash screen recorder app, it looks fine in person.
>>100365402>iZipThat's a third party program.>glitching windowNever happened to me.
>>100366824>glitching window>>100366524>kek the way the window jumps aroundit's on vmware
>>100344608>words words wordsImagine being this worthless
>>100334148THE YEAR OF LINUX DESKTOP
Maybe we should mail IBM shareholders about how gnomosexuals mismanage their money.
>>100365402Why does your computer have Parkinson's?
>>100348225based purple and orange appreciator. Been using the halloween css for a while now. Cozy
>>100365402DILATE THIS
>tfw Gnome can't do a basic function that Windows (all versions), MacOS, KDE, Xfce, MATE, Cinnamon, HaikuOS, Unity, CDE, ChromeOS, some versions of Android, AmigaOS, and etc etc etc can and have always been able to do What do they do with the millions of dollars of funding they get a year?
>>100370512they convert the funds to white powder and proceed to inhale it
>>100336217>is drag and drop from file managers really that important?When i first realized this wasnt an option when i was i trying out distros i just promptly loaded something else up and didnt even bother messing around with it anymore. Most i ended up keeping for a few days before switching again, i think gnome was on my computer for an hour and a half and was fucking floored that something as simple as that is simply just not present and not planning to be implemented.
>>100370512https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4740497/gnome-foundation-hires-professional-shaman-as-new-executive-director
>>100336009retard
>>100365402it's ogre
>>100334148Why are you all so nitpicky? Just use ctrl-c and ctrl-v like normal person, I thought drag-n-drop is being used only by tech illiterates who don't know what shortcuts and buttons is>>100337074If nautilus is so shit to you, why you wouldn't just use fucking another file manager? I don't get this gnome hate. Sure, it has some annoying minor issues, but overall look and experience is still thousand times better than plasma
>>100337476> "thank you for your report, this is a problem, we're working on it now"And then fix of this problem will generate 3 new problems
>>100334148Not my problem
>>100348170despite endeavourOS being shilled as a "beginner-friendly" version of arch, the iso installer failed to correctly install endeavourOS on my system in every possible preset configuration, wasting 3 hours of my time, but despite having absolutely no background in unix-based systems i was able to bang my head into the arch wiki's installation guide and get arch running with kde plasma on xorg in 1 hour.
>>100365402I thought this was KDE for a moment.
>>100372131i know and use shortcuts where they are efficient, but dragging and dropping 1 file from a .zip archive is not only more intuitive than copying and pasting it (as you unwittingly imply), but it is also faster and simpler, because at the point in which the two users have clicked on the specific file they want to unpack, the drag and dropper only needs to move their mouse a few cm and release mb1 while the person who feels unreasonably compelled to use shortcuts wherever possible releases mb1, ctrl+cs, alt+tabs to the target folder, which could easily be 4-5 keypresses, and ctrl+vs to paste the file into it.
>>100346595Shame about snaps. Ubuntu actually makes gnome usable
>>100334148KDE Chads stay winning.
>>100334163FUCK YOU AND YOUR USE CASE
