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MMCX Golden age Edition

How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference (basshead, female vocal, treble sensitive, etc.)
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio, Bloom Audio, MusicTeck, Elise Audio (UK)

>Full Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/c8gqc

>Frequency Response Graph Tool
squig.link

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• Tangzu Wan'er S.G (mild V) - $20
• EPZ Q1 Pro (Harman) - $35
• TRN Conch (bright V) - $35
• Simgot EA500LM (bright V) - $90

>Bullet IEMs:
• Tanchjim Zero (bright neutral) - $15
• Final E500 (dark) - $25
• Tanchjim One DSP (neutral) - $30

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (warm) - $5
• RY4S 32Ω mmcx Plus (V-shape) - $10
• Yincrow X6 (warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• Moondrop Dawn Pro - $50
• Tanchjim Space - $90
• Tempotec Sonata BHD Pro - $90
• Qudelix 5K - $110

>PMPs:
• Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120
• Shanling M0 Pro - $130
• HiBy M300 - $200
• Hidizs AP80 Pro-X - $200
• Tempotec V3 - $200

Previous thread: >>100303061
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First for CCA CRA kilobuck treble extension supremacy
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First for Just hit play and enjoy the music
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>>100340139
siiiiiiip
yup
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>>100339972
based old meme pos liker
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remember sirs
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Reminder that Harman tuned iems measure nowhere close to Harman.
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Blon 3's or KBEAR ks1's
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>>100340762
And that's a good thing.
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Is there any tangible difference between Moondrop Dawn Pro and Tanchjim Space? I know they use the same ICs so I expect them to be very similar but one is roughly half as expensive as the other. What about build quality, QC, UX and so on?
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>>100341443
apart from build quality, power output (not sure), and potential QC, not really.
tanchjim space has the advantage of having 3rd party independent measurements that show it does indeed measure like it reports while also having no other flaws. moondrop dawn pro doesn't have that afaik, and their history with DACs and QC hasn't been great.
get whichever you fancy and fits your budget. they're probably both made in the same factory anyway
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>>100341443
Dawn pro settings can only be changed from the moondrop app, i believe the tachjim space can be adjusted just with the physical buttons but don't quote me on that.
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What's the new shiny fotm?
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>>100341852
>Dawn pro settings can only be changed from the moondrop app
What settings are there?
>i believe the tachjim space can be adjusted just with the physical buttons
There's only one setting on the Space, high/low gain mode.
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>>100341972
Moondrop DUSK (flopped)
ThieAudio Hype 4 (flopped)
Elysian Pilgrim hype train started
I/O Volare (flopped)
HiSenior Mega5EST hype train derailing
Dunu DaVinci hype train is about to start
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>>100341972
origin / delci. waiting room for epz, simgot, timmy pos
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>>100341972
already released: origin, 5est, dusk
to be released: simgot supermix/em10, davinci, pilgrim, explorer
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>>100342057
>What settings are there?
High/low gain and maybe the different dac filters
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>>100341972
still the LM, it has no worthy competitors
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>>100342146
Really thinking about picking up a pair of Mega5EST.
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>>100342557
it sounded pretty nice, but i'd wait for the davinci since it's aiming for a somewhat similar sound
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>>100342631
What's this about a Davinci? From Hisensior as well?
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>>100341232
neither u newfag 2021 called they want their pos back
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>>100342657
a collab (i know, not ideal) from gizaudio and dunu. should release sometime this summer and it should cost around $300.
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10 days from release!
timmysisters let's frickin goooooooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc8fmUlxO_c
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btw the Elsyian Pilgrim does use "Pentaconn Ear" connection like another anon mentioned. not compatible with other MMCX though "adapters are available." DOA. also gay ass elysian house tuning: thin, treble-heavy
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is this satire? fking shills i swear
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>>100343159
is pentaconn bad as a connector or is it just bad because it's a new standard?
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>>100343159
>pentaconn
kek
>>100343192
>flawless driver matching
kek^2
still remember those anons that shared their origin measurements done on different couplers and basically matching one to one lmao
>>100343243
nobody uses it
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>>100343243
do you have pentaconn ear cables lying around?
are the majority of cables sold with pentaconn ear connection options?
for me, the answers to both are no, which largely renders a "replaceable connection," useless
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>>100339972
They don't make budget iem like this anymore..
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what's the absolute best IEM connector?
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>>100343192
>5K peak
Stop fucking doing this
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>>100343549
in terms of what?
if we're considering both durability and versatility, than it's recessed 2pin, which provides shear relief while still being somewhat universal. regular 2pin is not ideal, especially for sudden loads that can break off the pins.
if done properly, something like tanchjim's recessed and extended 2pin connectors are probably going to be the best.

at the end of the day, if it ain't 2pin, it ain't for me
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>>100343192
>Elysian's stringent quality control
from what I recall they're roughly in the same ballpark as Moondrop
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>>100343700
what's more durable, flush 2pin or MMCX?
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...
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where can buy a raw, unterminated cable so i don't have to pay $50 for some chink to sell me the same shit but with a connector?
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>>100343907
Moondrop Chu 2, reconnect with the cosmos, you're a star child
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>>100343927
Look through this store, they have a huge price range from 50¢ per foot to several dollars, they sell and the end connectors and y spits too
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>>100343927
>>100344110
Forgot link
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256804797432316.html
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what's a good small music player, there are too many chink scams out there
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>>100344342
Shanling m0 pro
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>>100339883
What are benefits of flatheads outside of comfort? Are these particularly better than in-ear when it comes to quality sound?
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why do things sound worse in the summer? is that cuz air molecules are more agitated and change my sweet spot of the speed of the sound? psychoacoustics mood? it's 32°C rn and i wanna die, my music sounds the best at 15-22°C
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>>100344702
retardation
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>>100344702
It's similar to the placebo effect, you think that it sounds different when it's hot out therefore it sounds different subconsciously
It's possible when it's hot out you don't feel as comfortable which means you don't enjoy listening to music as much
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>>100344702
Wires conduct better at lower temperatures, you can mitigate this effect by getting a OCC silver cable.
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>>100344442
nothing really. maybe lack of isolation if that's what you're looking for? they just aren't as good as IEMs or headpos
>>100344777
nice
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>>100344702
It's the speed of sound. Going from 343 m/s to 349 m/s will make the treble more energetic and you'll feel less bass as it dramatically affects the perceived spectral balance.
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literal schizophrenia
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>>100344702
for me especially trance music sounds better in the summer, supersaws and reverbs feel more lush
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>>100344143
i think i'd rather have something more fabric-like but i'll see if they have anything that'd fit me
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>>100345015
it's just physics
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>>100345349
igloobros, what do we say???
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anon who previously got 2 bad hexas in a row, I decided to order the third one, hopefully it won't be moondropped
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>you don't understand I NEED 24bit/192khz FLAC
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The lun sheng aeolian 2.0 earbuds are $7 on alix right now for anyone interested
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>>100345523
insane, why don't you just get something else at that point
hexas aren't even good, mid ass comfort and sound
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>>100345523
>>100346160
ong bro trippin. letshower (kefine / artti) saving us from mid pos with delci, r1, t10 and niggas still coppin whoreear hexass like wtf lmao ok
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>>100346160
>why don't you just get something else at that point
critical listening but I'm too poor for Moonderp Bellsing, for listening for fun I already have modded S12, the LM and two $20 cheapies
>mid ass comfort
when I put them in my ears they actually were comfortable
>mid ass sound
judging from one fully working earpiece and the bass it was not bad at all, though I have to experience it with fully working set and hopefully this time I will
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>>100346247
if you wanted critical listening "neutral" memes you picked the wrong truthear, although the nova is also trash in other ways (hollow shell)
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>>100346247
>critical listening
u dont seem to understand the part where hexa is mid as fuck. it's not even great for "critical listening." the resolution of the bass is ass, flat, non-textured. the mids are shit bellsing BAs that sound thin and lifeless. the treble is uneven and poorly extended, not airy, yet sharp and unrealistic tonality. those traits are not exclusive to all "neutral" sets, just hexass
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>>100345523
If you're stupid enough to buy BA pos you're stupid enough to buy it 3 times.
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I really want a PMP to stop using my phone. I use YouTube all the time for music, the playlists people make are just too good. I know the compressed audio sucks whatever but I'm using it often in a gym or while cooking with bluetooth headphones on.

Should I just use an old iPod classic with an upgraded hard drive or firmware? Is there a wifi enabled PMP that has youtube?


I just dont want a fucking web browser. If I have to finally give up youtube, fine i'll start downloading music again.


I just want to be free from this stupid phone.
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>>100346247
like eq down any other pos u have and it'll play superior to hexa. tf r u doin broski
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>>100346422
hiby m300, tempotec v3 are mostly android-ish. so u have access to play store apps, youtube, etc.
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>>100346446
scratch that. tempotec v3 is hiby os, not android. m300 seems to have issues playing DRM content like netflix, dunno how youtube fairs, but see the headfi thread for more user experiences with hiby m300
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/hiby-digital-m300-android-digital-audio-player-the-gen-z-music-player-discussion-thread.970428/page-41
tl;dr just stick to ur phone. or get a secondary cheapshit / refurbished phone to use as a pmp. the pmp market generally sucks balls
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>>100346288
>shartman
>critical listening
pick one and only one
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>>100346589
critical listening itself is a retarded meme
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>>100344372
cute
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>>100346422
to put it another way: you're barking up the wrong tree.
audiophile pmp wants:
>hi-res streaming (qobuz, tidal, etc.) / local lossless library
>wired output
your wants:
>youtube
>bluetooth
your wants align with most any modern phone, and do not align with the majority of audiophile music players regardless of price
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>>100346657
skill issue
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>>100346993
no u
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>>100346899
I figured as much. I think I will need to bite the bullet. I'll just go back to collecting FLACs and make Opus files or something and buy some Etymotic research IEMs, and go get my Sansa clip+ like I used to use 10 years ago.

Thanks m8. I'll do some lurking at head-fi and get something good.

Just trying to make changes in my life. and If i'm going to be listening to music as much as I do, I can put in a lil extra work for it to sound better.
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What's a fun iem for opus or mp3's? 30 dollars or below
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>>100347163
$20 cca trio aliexpress
i think the $19 trn conch deal ended
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The only good things /iemg/ has ever shilled:
>Tea 2
>EA500LM
>Chu 2 before they got butthurt over Chuzo
In everything else reviewers are better and more spot on.
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>>100347163
Tanchjim ONE DSP + Popular preset
KZ Castor Black
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>>100344442
isn't comfort enough? it's not even just the comfort of wearing them, but also the sound being less intrusive, more awareness, and even flatheads can sound impressive. Back in the 2000s everyone used flatheads, even outside.
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>>100347211
what do reviewers shill lmfao, hollow shell garbage?
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>>100347163
Epz q1 pro
Get it from their store on AliExpress to save some $ over the Amazon price
Tinhifi c2 MechWarrior if you don't mind the design
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>>100347211
I agree on Tea2
Can't agree on LM, sorry. Also it already died as it seems.
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>>100347211
>No mention of the cca cra
Sorry you are wrong
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>>100347211
All terrible.
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>>100347211
>Tea 2
good back in the olden days
>LM
one shill and a few more that have it as their first iem
>chu 2
already dead because of condensation issues and moondropped qc

only transjim shit has stood the test of time, and thats a stretch
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>>100347413
the ea500lm is low key a totl pos desu senpai
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>>100347245
also epz q1 pro will show up on aliexpress superdeals ~$22
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>>100347584
5 years ago pos like this would cost at least $500 for sure
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>>100347644
show FR
also
>non-detachable cable
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Are we sleeping on the AZLA ASE-500 ASMR? The tuning is basically 5128 nirvana
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>>100347666
>non-existent extension past 8khz
wow, we got a winner in our hands
also
>non-detachable cable
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>>100345349
>vented speaker
>iem where your ears have 1cm^3 of air that's sealed by the iem when plugged in having ANY effect
Nigger
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>>100345860
*32bit 384Hz Uncompressed LPCM
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>>100347695
Why do you need a detachable cable? it's using top high Korean tech cable rather than $2 plastic chink
>>100347743
You probably think IEMs would sound the same on Mars
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>>100347666
nice devil digits.
looks like it's a 1x sonion BA? honestly not terrible but overpriced at $90. the silicone smaller shell seems unique and that kind of tuning isn't horrid for exactly as they advertise it (relaxing, asmr, bedtime, non sharp, non-fatigue), but it's pretty niche tuning and configuration. i'd prob choose it or the awful magicpos over an er4sr tho. not very stiff competition
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>>100347666
i dont see any venting on the shell, so i'd tentatively call it a fail for ultimate comfort. sealed BA pos pressure build-up is not comfy. wear them without complete seal and the sub bass will dramatically fall off. need bass for equal loudness contour adherence
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>>100347666
E500 is $25 and gets you the same (if not better) sound.
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>>100347666
Graph looks like shit and
>ASMR
lmao into the fucking trash
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LEGENDARY SELF DEVELOPED DRIVERS
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>>100348161
that's just how BAs are bro, think of it like tube distortion
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>>100348172
castor is 2DDs
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>>100348161
ohnonono deret!!
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>>100348189
nevermind it's fucking over then, castortroons in shambles
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>>100348189
It's haunted by the spirits of all the BAs they forgot to solder.
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>>100348161
that mountain is high!
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>>100347666
i have the plain ase500 which i got when it was on sale for like $25 to harvest the azla max tips off, it's definitely a 1dd so it's super weird that the revised version is a ba. i should graph the older one. it's not super comfortable for me since despite being lined with soft touch plastic the shell is kinda large (stresses my outer ear on the long axis of its oval shape). i eventually picked up a jbl endurance run 2 which to me does a lot better with the silicone covering/shallow depth kind of fit. with eq, of course.
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>Have not looked at this thread, now $600 down with a MIAD01 & Moondrop Kato

How screwed am I? Planning to translate recovery image for all retards.
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>>100349073
moondropped.
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>>100349073
should've bought transjim origin instead of kato
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>>100349073
Phone battery dies* no replacement for you
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>>100349073
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>>100349073
absolutely fucked
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>>100349523
i understand he wants to try the new audiofool phone but... katos???
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>>100336405
I'm going with those, thanks anon. Don't really want the subwoofer though how important is that? Walls are paper thin and I can hear my flatmate snore at night so a rich bass effect doesn't seem optimal.
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My Aria finally died. I want something that sounds like it around the same price, what should I get?
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>>100339883
Is the Final Audio E2000 worth trying if I can get it for about $4 more than the E500?
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>>100349073
>kato
jesu-
>miad
PFFFFFT
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TAKE A LOOK AT THIS FUCKING RETARD HAHAHA HOLY FUCKING SHIT PFFT HAHAHAHHAA
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i just unearthed aria 2021s and starfields from my drawer of "random shit i'll sort out one day (never)" and i'm surprised by how fucking dead the arias sound in comparison, is that normal? they might sound worse than my shitty samshit earbuds
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>>100349687
Kiwi Ear Cadenza
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>>100342700
Than recommend something better, newer and in the same price range you worthless nigger
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>>100350350
check the OP and rentry you illiterate retard
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>>100350398
I can't, I'm illiterate as you pointed out.
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>>100349073
L M A O
M
A
O
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what's wrong with the moondrop phone aside from the shit soc?
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>>100350689
That's what I'm wondering. Getting it as a cheap replacement for a quickly dying Pixel 6Pro. I don't game so I don't need insane specs.
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>>100350689
Purely the reputation (nobody has cared about phone specs in the past 5 years at least)
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>>100350824
>Purely the reputation
what's wrong with moondrop? i don't pay attention to manufacturer drama, i thought people liked them
though after finding my arias again i can safely say i regret buying them
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>>100350850
they know how to tune but QC is atrocious
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>>100350850
Moondrop has a bad reputation because a few of their most popular IEMs (e.g. Aria, Chu) have issues with longevity (e.g. paint chipping, clogged filters) and then you have general chifi issues (channel imbalance, straight up dying out of nowhere and other random QC issues).
Honestly I think the paint chipping part has had the most impact on their rep. No chifi manufacturer is immune to issues, they're all bad with QC.
TL;DR: Arias were super popular -> a lot of people bought Arias -> a lot of people had a negative experience -> Moondrop became a meme.
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>>100350938
i've had starfields for 4 or 5 years, admittedly i haven't used them in the last two >>100350008 years because i started carrying my ksc75s everywhere instead until the cable broke but i haven't had any problems with them and the paint is still mint, what the fuck do people do with their iems to complain about chipping so much? it's the one complaint that always comes up with both moondrop and starfields
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>>100350988
Apparently it's an issue caused by humidity. I just checked my Arias and they seem mostly fine, but I didn't use mine that long before I moved onto my next pos.
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>>100351032
>Apparently it's an issue caused by humidity
humidity is always at at least 90% here but i don't leave either starfields or arias out when i take them off, i just stuff them back in the case almost immediately
since the arias sound like shit to me in comparison i think i'll leave them out of the case from now on and check if the paint degrades
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once again asking what i should get between the surfans f20 or the hifi walker h3, same price
they kinda look the same from the ui but the h3 looks much cheaper
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>>100349073
Holy based moondrop KING i kneel
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Anyone going to CanJam socal this year?
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>>100351518
yep, will casually throw whatever food or drink i have on hand at you. and then we can talk pos or w/e
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>>100350850
>what's wrong with moondrop?
garbage IEMs that clog too easily.
>>100350916
>they know how to tune
Bullshit. Their IEMs require high dampening so even the smallest amount of ear wax clogs them.
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>>100351801
its just that the filters are utter trash, not to mention the directions they take to design the housing that perticular way
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>>100350916
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>>100352084
its the 10db tech bump you won't get ut
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>>100351565
>yep, will casually throw whatever food or drink i have on hand at you.

You can't do that!
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is the dt990 schizo still here?
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>ThiefAudio Monarch
paragon of sonority
>qdc VX
precision of sound
>Subtonic Storm
perfection of sound
>Moondrop Chu 2
point of sale
>ThiefAudio Prestige LTD
piece of shit
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>>100339883
I once dabbled in high-end in-ear headphones based on your recommendations, and I'm sorry to say but the whole experience was utter dogshit.

why is everything some over-priced chinkshit?
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>>100352954
How dare you..
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>>100352985
>he fell for the kilobuck meme
oh no no no no no
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>>100353134
many such cases, but you know, techs equals price, quality equals price or so they say
resident richpig seething incoming in 3...
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what should I buy to replace the mesh for the tanchjim one? Thought about buying another iem but there's nothing really out that I haven't tried that is interesting in this price range. mine got gunked up pretty bad because of their choice of mesh. Never bought diy stuff before.The nozzle is apparently 6.2 to 6.3
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>>100353265
Ditch asano tanch, embrace nice hck's ydx armpits.
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>>100353419
lol fuck off I don't need your chinktier waifus. I already have my waifu IEM COTSUBU PATRA EDITION. Cool thing about this iem is that there is a real emotional connection because I actually enjoy watching patra. How many of you actually have an emotional attachment to your earphone waifus and what basis is there for that?
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>>100353527
I mastrubate to my iem waifu
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>>100353630
Your waifu has a nice hck.
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>>100351374
If they're both usb c then it doesn't matter literally the same exact hardware
Get the cheaper one
t.own both
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Which blue IEMs should I get? I'm considering between Truthear Zero and EPZ Q1 Pro
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>>100353821
eq1 pro is no brainer
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What's the best IEM to listen to audio porn? Preferably something comfortable to wear in bed.
Budget is 50-150 bucks.
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>>100347413
Still enjoying my Tea 2s. What has surpassed it?
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>>100353527
Is it that Final x Patra collab TWS where the voiceover is "Good morning, dog" instead of your default "Connected"?
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>>100353737
They're the same price.
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>>100353953
get any 30$ iem from the OP, coomer
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I got the moondrop aria a year ago and they are already starting to degrade, I had to replace the cable, paint is peeling and I had to glue back one of the cover because of a light drop. I want to replace them but which brand have the best build quality?
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>>100354391
Does the seal hold if you have your head on the side? I'm currently using regular AirPods and it works ok since they don't go into the ear canal but the battery is degrading and not lasting as long as my edging seasons.
I wouldn't mind spending a bit more for better audio quality.
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>>100353419
How do these sound compared to some of the other earbuds? I saw a review saying he expected more.
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>>100354647
simgot ea500lm is built like a tank, though the mirror finish picks up fine scratches easily
>>
Mouse
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>>100355010
He sideways :(
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>>100351801
dampening is a valid part of tuning so if the final product sounds good, it counts, and moondrops indeed do sound good, also
>filter
clog
>no filter
your earwax will eventually get into the nozzle and you risk driver damage
pick your poison, for me waterproofed filters are the way to go and that's where I agree moondrops in particular fall short, but in tanchjims and letshuoers you can just wipe your wax from the filter or more likely it'll fall out by itself
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>>100355010
SQUEEK
(FUCK IKEA FOR CANCELING GOSIG MUS)
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Talk me out of buying the Cayin RU6 R2R
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>>100354952
this
don't listen to retards overusing memes such as shrillgot or tinnitus, it's recommended for a reason
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>>100355062
Inherently flawed budget pos issues specifically designed for failure. Disposable tuning foams are a better solution, cost next to nothing and last for 1-2 years. But the fanciest I've seen so far is mesh filter being a tiny screw cap on top of the nozzle which can be removed and thoroughly cleaned.
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>>100355263
>the fanciest I've seen so far is mesh filter being a tiny screw cap on top of the nozzle which can be removed and thoroughly cleaned
that's exactly what makes chu 2 not the worst pos in that regard even if it clogs after a few days of use, the lack of this feature killed the first chu
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>>100355010
Fox mouse(endgame).
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>>100353134
>>100353185

I bought iBasso IT01, and they were ok for the first few months, then it's utter dogshit.
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Is this LEGIT? Is it the ORIGINAL product from the collaboration between 7hz and Crinacle?
If so, I'm going to buy it.
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>>100354916
Cheaper than the eb2s, but replacable cable is worth it, the eb2s a just a hair bit better but the eb2s lacks bass than her, its balanced.
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>>100353953
An ER2SE so that you can really isolate yourself from the outside world.
The ER2XR would work well as well, but I think that you'd experientially benefit from a slight reduction in bass + the SE might be cheaper in your region due to lower demand.
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>>100355207
>Unironically defending this
Kys shrill shill
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>>100354224
depends on what you like about it. id take something like the p5 over it because its cheaper and about as good
>>100356465
isolation vs comfort, a modern tragedy
>>100357917
i usually don't hate on pos, but 12dB of ear gain? id kill myself
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>>100357917
It's on HoF i thought everyone here liked this crap, glad that's not the case. I got condemned by few guys a couple threads back for talking shit about it.
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>>100358861
>It's on HoF
whoever made the rentry is doing the list like the average retard audiophile. great view on the market, but pretty useless if you want to actually achieve "endgame" sound. its mainly for consuming, not improving sound quality
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>>100355481
Are you ?
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>>100357917
>intentionally shifted graph from default to make the iem look as bad as possible
damn that's fucking slimy kek, cringacle type behavior
https://timmyv.squig.link/?share=Harman_IE2019_Target,Simg_EA500LM_(Gold)
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>>100359549
just looks like it was normalized at 1khz, completely normal lol
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>>100359703
1k normalization is retarded thoughever
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>>100359549
I didn't. I even showed the nozzle that people actually use.
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>>100359792
what would you suggest?
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simgay supermix4 is just a cheaper kiwimemes quintet, similar config. people keep harping on how "smooth" the supermix4 is. ~$150 MSRP
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>>100359940
both samples look meh. either shartman with limp bass, or abominable nggar tuning
ill be waiting for the em10 tribrid
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>>100359900
weighted normalization, it's strange that no one does it as it's the most logical solution
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>>100359549
it doesn't look bad at all, tuning roughly in line with Shartman/DF+RC with the only significantly boosted frequencies in the air section which makes it sound more open, reminder that the 10kHz dip is a coupler artifact so the air boost is not a peak, in reality it sounds smooth
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>>100360192
just to clarify; the 10khz dip is not a coupler artifact afaik, just something that is commonly seen on because of the 8khz tube resonance.
the 10khz dip is only a known quirk on some gras rigs iirc
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pov: your left ear cant hear past 14 khz
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who cares about squiggly graphs when you can just eq
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The guide is getting longer and longer, and I still have a ton of topics on the backburner waiting to be finished.
It's over.
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>>100360443
Then we would have nothing to do except bicker over whether or not techs are real. That would lead to much worse thread quality, which is why everyone who EQs pretends to care about stock FR. See, we're actually doing a service to the thread.
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>>100348161
>need to be at an insane volume to hear any distortion, even with cheap-ass KZ shitters
ASR once again inadvertently proving that THD only matters in IEMs if you have severe autism and easily fall victim to the placebo effect from looking at his graphs
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>>100360304
>something that is commonly seen on because of the 8khz tube resonance
doesn't it make it an artifact?
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>>100359549
It graphs dog water no matter how you rotate or stretch it, bud
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>>100360954
i would classify it as just that, an 8khz artifact. better to just mention the cause rather than a somewhat inconsistent symptom.
for example. something like the 5est has the 8khz but not the 10khz dip
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>>100360353
>tfw my right ear can hear past 14k but can't hear 9k
JUST
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>>100349739
if you EQ, yeah (better build quality)
if not, then maybe
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>>100360500
Press on. Lean on your faith to the Lord to support you through these hard times. We need you Anon, you're our only hope...
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why the fuck did truthear discontinue the hola and shio, do they hate money?
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>>100361599
wgaf. hola is boring ugly generic shite. shio was too analog/warm/smoothed, low-power, shitty build that would peel apart and chafe
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and anyways turdear teased some new budget pos that will be even "chipper" than halo. you'll get your new bunny poorfag pos eventually patel
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>>100339972
These gave me tinnitus actually
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>>100361696
Hola was peak up to 30-40 bucks, you can't prove me wrong.
Great tuning, lightweight, good built quality, great cable, some of the best shallow tips ever, ugly chibi waifu.
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>>100361599
>hola
they probably got a really good deal on cheap high quality drivers but the stock eventually ran out

>shio
too much competition in the sub $100 DAC market with better build quality, no reason to get shio when you could get tanchjim space and now dawn pro
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I'm confused. What should i buy?
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>>100361816
IEMs
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>>100361816
transjim one dsp, TRooN conch
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>>100361874
>>100361866
I'm still confused
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>>100361893
Just buy.
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>>100361893
my pos > your pos no matter what you get
sorry, it is what it is lad
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>>100361900
>>100361918
I'm more.confused now
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>>100361970
Buy. Or else.
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>>100361762
>ugly chibi waifu
Don't say mean things about my wife.
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>>100362240
She looks great, but not her weird chibi Hola version.
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>>100362240
>>100362531
as expected, shiroi is a whore much like rabbits
at least her feet are cute, probably smell really nice as well
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Reminder that heavy use of ibuprofen gives you tinnitus
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>>100361816
shit, I'm starving due to lack of Chuzo's essays about how you should buy Chu 2, put on top tier tips such as Feaulle H570 and EQ it to 5128 diffuse field with room curve like Monarch Mk2 along with ready-to-use presets, it was peak /iemg/ by a long shot and what we have now is complete shit in comparison
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>>100363043
He stopped posting because his chu 2 died and he can't afford to replace it. We warned him.
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>>100363043
He exclaimed the truth through teachings of EAC HRTF creation through AI and using room virtualization, alas they shunned Him for He too could only take so much vitriol before succumbing to the Devil that is consoomerism.
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>>100362531
It's just her head on the box so it's fine

>>100362926
You take that back
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>>100363080
oh yeah, there was hesuvi too, also adding BA-like euphonic distortion through software, it was top kino all-around
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chuzo, stop lurking and come say hi you prick
we miss you
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>>100362240
>>100362926
she even wears the appropriate footwear to be able to do perfect footjobs by wrapping her arch around the dick and caress it with her skilled toes in all the right spots, just like Hexa and Nova hit their FR targets just right
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>>100361521
I might as well just upload it now and let people help out at this point, but I know people are going to write horrible advice so I'm just powering through everything right now.
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>>100363125
>euphonic distortion
He was always ahead of the curve, a true visionary.
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kek, wtf is kz doing with their bluetooth modules, they're jus re-releasing older models with a new name and 200% markup
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>>100363545
Pre-obsoleted by KZ's pioneering passive timbre BA resonators.
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Can certain IEM cause coil wine? When i'm using the EPZ Q1 Pro i get really high pitched mainboard coil wine, doesn't happen with my other IEMs.
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>>100363043
>>100363080
>>100363188
So true sisters, we need our heckin' ally back to put these fucking transphobic rich chuds back in their place.
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this shit any good ? that bone conduction thing got me interested
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>>100364022
100% ass according to people

fyi I haven't heard it but it seems neat.
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>>100363755
Yeah I fucking hate iems, wearing some kph30is right now which are objectively comfier than any of this general's faggot ear dildos. Seeing that Chuzo dude derail threads was a good laugh. Hopefully some other nigger come along and bury this crab bucket of a general.
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>>100364022
>bone conduction
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Anyone know what DACs actually work with the Pixel 8? Bought the thing having no idea it had shit support for them.
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Holy shit bwos
Cincotres with dunu ss tips is actual endgame
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>>100364022
No, it's one of the "harshest" IEM i have ever heard, bone conducting doesn't really do anything. You are better off trying the CVJ Konoka if you want a gimmick you can actually feel.
And the Plutus also has the weirdest IEM fit ever.
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>>100363755
kys TRooN
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>>100364180
the what

also what do those tips do better than inverted KZ starlines?
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>>100364065
On-ears are atrocious lmao.
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>>100364157
Check the comments in the video, people mention working models
https://youtube.com/watch?v=D_NPKtGiF_A
How did google fuck this up.
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>>100364465
ksc75s with pads and a headband were less than half the price of my starfields and sound much better
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>>100364504
Bruh
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>>100364440
Nah I'm good. Stay mad loser lmao
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>>100364504
lil bro fell for every poorfag reddit meme and wants to blame us for it sheesh
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Trans women are as much as women as Simgot EA500LM is Endgame.
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>>100364577
ayo fr lil bro nigga sheeesh deez homey frfr ong
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>>100364504
Would the right pads make them more closed?
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>>100364699
you never want to change koss pads, it turns up the mud from 9 to 11, ruins the sound
headtrannies can't help but mangle their pos with "mods", it's fucked up
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>>100364451
better for iems with longer nozzles and i get a better seal because the material is softer
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>>100364758
It's the ikea effect. Doesn't matter that the result is garbage, if you modded it yourself then it's obviously better. And the modding is so widespread because subconsciously they understand that what they bought is garbage to begin with.
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>>100364322
>And the Plutus also has the weirdest IEM fit ever.
Damn that thing looks like some fucked up growth
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>>100364636
the LM is a pos for straight men though, troons are easily offended with hurting their eartrussies by the treble
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>>100364699
i got yaxis, pricier than the koss itself but they're extremely comfortable and it definitely improves the bass so i guess they do feel a bit more closed
can still hear through them just fine, very useful to keep track of spooks on the train
>>100364758
>>100364889
no different than changing tips and cables, iemfags are truly broken
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>>100364959
Tips barely make any difference, this is proven with measurements. Cables make no difference. Pads meanwhile make a huge difference and 99% of the time for the worse.
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>>100365006
a mod is a mod :)
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>>100365013
I'm not against mods I'm against mods that mangle your sound like yaxi pads.
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>>100365006
measurements are flawed, etys with 0dB measured bass in reality have much more bass in real life, I'd say it's stronger than in Salnotes Zero which has the bass slightly elevated in graphs, same goes for the 5-10kHz dip in measurements that's not audible in real life
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>>100365087
5-10K dip maybe, bass no. Either your hearing is fucked or you're not getting a seal.
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>>100365165
>more bass with no seal
rl nigga?
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>>100365191
no seal on the zero you tard
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>>100354766
>seal hold if you have your head on the side?
only if you have good tips that grip your canal well, also the size of the iem against how big your ear is
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>>100354766
the battery is degrading and not lasting as long as my edging seasons.
get help, you have an unhealthy addiction
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my I/O Volare just arrived. Going to compare them to my XENNS Mangird Top. Will post thoughts later
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alright bros, I can't get a good seal on my Samsung buds+ with any of the tip sizes and nothing else fits on the nozzles
if I wanted to upgrade what should I go with? for reference I regularly use my Blessing 2's with spinfiy or s&s
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>>100364180
>Cincotres
>$350 tinnitus
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>>100365617
Is it hollow shell?
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>>100365730
You can find tips for tws on sites like AliExpress.
Upgrade would be the buds 2 pro
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>>100365617
holy shit those shells are massive
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Looking for some open ear / on ear wireless earphones for running. Looking at SoundPEATS GoFree2 kinda thing. Needs to be comfortable for long runs.

>Budget: $55USD / $91NZD
>Intended use: Bluetooth connected to Hiby DAP or S23 phone while running.
>Frequency response preference: Similar to the Sennheiser frequency response, maybe a bit more bass since I'll be outdoors.
>Past gear and your thoughts on them
See above.
>Needs to be wireless and preferably be waterproof. On ear or open style since I need to hear my surroundings better

Cheers for any advice!
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Where can you get IEM cable of varying lengths?
I'm looking for one where there is pretty much only the split to each ear
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>>100366071
This guy will customize any cable in his shop for a few $
Just message him and carefully explain what you want and he will give you a price.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256805697252748.html?
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are bone conduction headphones a meme? are there any good ones <100€ to try them out?
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How the fuck does one replace a dap battery without a teardown vid on youtube?
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7Hz x Crinacle Zero: 2, Blon x HBB Z300, or Blon bl07?
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>>100366484
None of them fucking retard now buy EA500LM
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>>100363595
it's called driver flex. its normal
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>>100366484
Chu 2
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>>100366484
Buy vidos
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>>100366288
but a new one goy
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just got a the nicehck silver cat for $1.5, life is good bros
and yes, they'll either cancel it or use a fake tracking number, i do not care!
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Anyone have recommendations for a USB-C DAC dongle similar in form to the Apple one but actually good for Android (good volume and inaudible noise floor with iems)?

>Budget: under $50
>Use: Android; don't want to switch to using USB Audio Player Pro
>Past gear:
I liked the Samsung dongle, but all the ones being sold now appear to be counterfeits with no big retailers or even Samsung selling it themselves.
I have a CX31993 dongle. Good volume, but I hear white noise with it.
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>>100366106
I'll do that, thanks. But is it really that unusual for people to want a non-standard length that it has to be through a custom order?
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why call them "monitors"? is that just to get you to pretend they're not just earbuds?
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>>100368098
Because the name originates from in ear monitors that you would see people wear on stage, to monitor audio/their voice.
ON opt of the shape, isolation etc.
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>>100368098
same reason studio monitors are called monitors instead of speakers
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>>100368089
unusual enough for them to deem it as not worthy of keeping in stock
>>100368098
thought you were the video monitor retard for a sec kek
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>>100365829
>Is it hollow shell?
Yes, they show off internals. Typical 3-D print shell, finished and lacquered

>>100366025
>for running
For me, it's unironically Beats Powerbeats Pro. Look around for similar styles as those. I find non-earhook models are incapable of staying in ear well enough during vigorous exercise. The other alternative is what anon asks about >>100366202
>bone conduction headphones
Be aware that many fake bone conduction earphones exist (just regular speakers blasting out into the open air, ie shit). Shokz is essentially the top brand of legit ones. Nearly all cheaper options will be the fake variety. Bone conduction doesn't necessarily have the highest fidelity sound, but it will be clear enough for the mid-range and vocals, and offers the pros of hearing surroundings without plugging your ears.

>>100366484
>7Hz x Crinacle Zero: 2, Blon x HBB Z300, or Blon bl07?
They all have various nitpicks about fitment, accessories, etc. I'd skip straight to the Kefine Delci or Artti R1 if what you're seeking is a bassy warm neutral signature. In general, they are providing higher quality accessories, build, fit, and sound.

>>100366947
>nicehck silver cat for $1.5
At least share what a nigga gotta do to cop it like that bruh.

>>100367738
>under $50
See OP and rentry. Moondrop Dawn Pro, EPZ TP20 Pro, and Akliam PD4 Plus are in budget.
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>>100368616
Disappointing. Not sure why manufacturers keep pumping out hollow shell slop.
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Newfag with slight tinnitus here, what are some good allrounder IEMs or Buds for less than or around 30 bucks?
Bonus points if it has a waifu in the box.
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>>100368874
celest wyvern
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Is 2nd option here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005476544092.html

Compatible with 5th option here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006264671185.html
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>>100368616
>See OP and rentry. Moondrop Dawn Pro, EPZ TP20 Pro, and Akliam PD4 Plus are in budget.
I did see those. While I appreciate the response, only the Moondrop Dawn Pro appears to be at or under $50 at least right now. Also, I specified Apple dongle form because I don't want to deal with a small box hanging off my phone.
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>>100368616
>At least share what a nigga gotta do to cop it like that bruh.
it was a code that they put on twitter, they deleted the post. the coupon name was something like "51SILVERCAT", i can't find it again, but other coupons are 51DRAGON and 51DEEPSNOW
the coupon brought it down to around $10, and the aliexpress coupon for passing a price point removed another $8
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>>100369092
i dont think the coupon is available anymore, tried different versions, really wish i remembered the code
there's still the possibility of using the JKJKJK coupon with it (in the NiceHCK Audio Store), and also using the aliexpress sale coupon to get the cable for under $10

and yes, these cables usually aren't great quality, but they're cool if you get them for very low prices (<$10) .
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>>100369077
no. blons use their own style of TFZ connection. best to just stick an awkward 0.78mm 2-pin on them
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>>100369092
aight well thx anyways. btw highly advise everyone stay away from deepsnow. THE most rigid, thick, memory-retaining, unwieldy cable ever. don't use it because of how heavy and uncomfy it is, and i have some chonky audiofool cables. it's plain bad
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>>100339883

SPEAKERS, NO AUDIO THREAD
~150$ USD
Intended Use: Entertainment, Media
Preference: IDK
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For the next baker, add the rentry to the OP.
..........co/iem-eq-guide
I'll be posting parts that need help as well as small sections so that you get a sense of what the style of the guide is (formal but not academically rigorous), in case anyone wants to pitch in.
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>>100366484
hbb is trash. just another version of z reviews
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>>100365923
yeah i thought my top were big but these fucking dwarf them. After listening to them for a while I do think they sound good. Compared to the Top, they're less V-shaped a bit, with less air and treble. The Top has more bass slam, while the Volare has more sub-bass. Otherwise they sound pretty close to each other, kind of like how the Monarch mk3 and the Top sounded very similar to each other. Honestly I think i still prefer the Top to these so I'm gonna return them. The Top truly is the top.
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>>100370038
based Xanny ManGirth TOPmedaddy
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>>100369087
dongles are either well made and competent or the small form factor you're asking for, where you already know the top choices: applel dongle or generic cx31993. others will just be cx31993 or even worse alcxxxxx. there are no higher quality ones, only more of the same.
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>>100367738
>>100369087
Jcally jm40
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>>100369577
Edifier MR4
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>>100370230
I still want to try the meme5est but i have a feeling i wont care much for that either.
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>>100371181
mega5est has good tuning, but wont be a huge difference. tea2-ish with 3k upper mids peak instead of plateau-style. sidegrades to the top with eq bro
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new bread >>100371435



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