There is no reason get more storage now.Because of this, it wouldn't surprise me only storage companies are attacking JXL because who else doesn't want to reduce the size of their images by over 50% without seeing any visual differences.https://exhentai.org/g/2912247/9579c9b05f/
>>100365551AVIF is better for anime and it has widespread support unlike jpeg xl.https://caniuse.com/avifhttps://caniuse.com/jpegxl
It doesn't help that there's something wrong with the patents. I'm not going to pretend to understand it but I know microsoft is involved so it can't be good.https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/17/microsoft_ans_patent/
>>100365551This dpreview sample raw image 40.7MB
>>100365697>>100365666Hey Daiz.Didn't take long for you to find this thread. After all, you've a bot that looks at every post for certain keywords.For our newfriends, Daiz is behind every single AVIF shill post. He stopped using his trip code after someone looked into an archive and discovered that he's behind every AVIF shill post, something that he genuinely didn't expect anyone to do.Expect lots of samefagging from the narcissist.Probably not getting paid by Google.Before he got called out:https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/avif/end/2024-02-24/Getting called out:https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/99167108Aftermath:https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/avif/start/2024-02-25/
>>100365868rent free
>>100365551...why not use jpegxl's lossless jpeg transcoding?you'd save almost as much space, with 0 loss + the ability of losslessly retranscoding to jpeg in case you need it for compatibility or jpeg-xl ends up in the shitter (which is very likely seeing how things are going unfortunately)lossy transcoding is already retarded in most cases, but here it is beyond retardation
>>100365666
>>100366745autonomous cars, computer generated cp, trash cans banging with no stinky hobos, great times
Any update on when the microsoft patent thing will get settled? Such a bummer that this is preventing adoption.
>lossy to lossyRetard
>>100365868Is this the same daiz that killed anime?
>>100368767No, by their own admission they've just picked that nickname because they want to do the same to images.
>>100368767Yes. Exact same person.
>>100367509Why are you obsessed with irrelevant things, Daiz? Why do they live rent free in your head?And any update on when you'll be put in a mental asylum without internet? Such a bummer that you're afraid of getting help when you're clearly in need of.it. Scamming artists and everyone else, then wasting their money on vtubers is your cope but how long will it last?
>>100366734cjxl lossy is always going to have a smaller file size than cjxl lossless, you r****t typing retard
>>100365551what the fuck is exhentaiim tired of seeing that shit posted everywhere and then when i go there its just a blank fucking page>inb4 he doesnt knowI DONT I DONT KNOW SO TELL ME RETARD
>>100369056yeah i remember them posting something like that. there was someone with a similar name he just took it from, right?>t. newfag that doesn't know the "lore"
qrd on the patent thing with jxl? I can't tell of I should take it seriously or not.
>>100365666>666totalpixDAIZdeath
>>100365697There's only 2 patent declarations for ISO/IEC 18181 and neither of them is from Microsoft.
>>100365666>animeIrrelevant
>>100365666>>100365551Look it is the retarded JXL fagot!Someone DOXX HIM!> because who else doesn't want to reduce the size of their images by over 50% We did have this talk before NO ONE!We reached PERFECT picture quolity with PNG and all the CONTENT DAMAGING formats like jpg are literally deprecated.>bb-b-b- it is the same damage like jpg only 50% less size.NO ONE CARES! It is literally 2024 stop damaging our pictures you fucken retard! Why the fuck should the pictures I take be damaged and degraded by a retarded algorithm. PNG preserves quality forever.
>>100369891pornsite, needs login token cookie.You get it by registering on their forums and logging in there.Clear your cookies on the blank page before logging in, in the forums to not get fucked over by old token cookie you got just for visiting
>>100365551Storage companies don't care about pictures. There's nobody in existence who has more than 1gb of pictures on their computer.
>>100365551>, for fractions
>>100371675>There's nobody in existence who has more than 1gb of pictures on their computerLaughs at you at scrapped e-hentai and porn booru pictures numbering in the millions.Fuck webp/avif/jxl PNG forever boys!
>>100369922>https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/99167108stupid question newfag reddit nigger
>>100371777Sorry, I meant there's nobody of sound mind who has more than 1gb of pictures on their computer, data hoarders not included.
>>100371675>>100372157Lol retard. NTA but I have more than 850 GiB of photos and videos I personally took on my phones and digital cameras in the last 15 years, quality was always set to max and I never saved them on the glowies' cloud.
Apple has embraced JXL, it will be the way forward. The AVIF homies can get bent.
>>100365551Based and true. I regularly save 90%.Also hi, you must be that mentally ill guy 1 on the sadpanda thread
>>100371626At least pick a good format for lossless like qoi
>>100365868>>100366745>>100368767>>100369056>>100369371>>100369422>>100370412>>100371218>>100371917Stop samefagging each and every thread about image formats with your schizo delusionsNOBODY gives a flying fuck about some namefag except you
>>100368665even worse when at least one page, 009, is ~9% smaller with d0 vs d0.5 at e8 and e9.
>>100372747That kind of has me worried. Why WOULD apple adopt it but not everyone else?
>>100374728You sound upset, Daiz
>>100375215Hello Daiz
>>100365666>666Lmao. A long time ago, /a/ used to joke that triggering Daiz (You) was like summoning the Devil. They even made a video about it and uploaded it to YouTube but it was taken down recently however you can find it on www.archive.ph.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20PwaJYcnukhttps://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/daiz%20summoning/order/asc/
>>100374614Don't be a meanie and post your script, it looks interesting.
>>100374614>pseudolosslessso lossy
>>100365551>Because of this, it wouldn't surprise me only storage companies are attacking JXL because who else doesn't want to reduce the size of their images by over 50% without seeing any visual differences.You reduce the size but CPU works harder, maybe if you convert or open them one by one it's not a problem but try to open page full of JXL images and scroll down. Fuck no, I'm not using it. Not everyone has decent hardware, format like that will never be mainstream for that reason alone. Too slow, too bloated.
The year is 3024. We're still using JPEG.
>>100365551I will just use PNG
>>100377342Yup this, without any hardware acceleration any future format will be DOA and we'll be stuck with JPG forever. It doesn't matter what a small group of autists think.>inb4 you are le daiz!
>>100375215Most artists are on Mac. It's not just Apple adopting it, every artist using a Mac will also adopt it.
>>100378645My point is apple is EXTREMELY anti-consumer. That's why they solder the SSD on their computers and chuck in metric tons of privacy raping spyware (which they do an excellent job of hiding).What use is jpeg xl to them to further fuck consumers up the ass?
>>100374614what font?
The fact that JXL is a superset of a ubiquitous format means it automatically wins. Every JPEG is also a decompressed JPEG XL
>>100365551Fucking basedjak non human piece of shit.
>>100371675kek no
>>100378591>Work on a hardware implementation continues, and further improvements are made to the libjxl reference software.
This rapist's obsession with hardware acceleration is hilariousI've never seen him disclose which hardware supports AVIF or how much faster AVIF with hardware acceleration is over JPEG XL with hardware accelerationI then looked into his background and couldn't find a single instance of him attacking other codecs and formats for not having hardware acceleration. In fact, every codec and format that he's shilled for didn't get hardware acceleration until a decade later.
>>100382158>which hardware supports AVIFTheoretically, any AV1 decoder. Practically, there's no image viewing software that actually uses that.
>>100369446>cjxl lossy is always going to have a smaller file size than cjxl losslessyeah... which is exactly what I saidwhat the fuck is your problem
>>100382158>>100382184[5.1/H-1-17] MUST have at least 1 hardware image decoder supporting AVIF Baseline Profile.https://source.android.com/docs/compatibility/14/android-14-cddI really do hope this remains as the jpg/gif replacement for the next decade or so. If not it'll just turn into 15 competing standards... for ever.
>>100382184>>100382333Keep samefagging and deflecting, Daiz
>>100382285you said the opossite but of course you're illiterate and retarded, like it's to be expected because you're a r****t typing retard
>>100378711>>100375215It's fucking hilarious that you're pretending to be with consumers, Daiz.Also every single fucking thing that you've said why we shouldn't use JPEG XL applies to AVIF as well, more so too
>>100382471>you said the opossite ???? where>illiterate and retardedsays the one that can't read or type>like it's to be expected because you're a r****t typing retard...you literally just reddit-spaced in that post lol
>>100384124oh, you're r****t typing because you're a retarded newfag who fell for the phoneposting and fed hoax that reddit invented paragraphs i was being much more lenient on you by giving you the benefit of the doubt because i thought you were doing it because you're a retarded newfag who thinks 4chan uses the same text editor as reddit
>>100384446seek help
>>100385034that's funny coming from a retarded newfag who is illiterate, requires spoonfeeding, fell for a phoneposting and fed hoax, claims to hate phoneposters and feds, and is so insecure and desperate to fit in will believe in anything
>>100385124k
>>100365666>anime>still images
>>100385197You will never be an oldfag or a woman
>>100385223
>>100365551Is this like heic for the poors or something?
>>100385272freetards yes. no coincidence that it mogs apple's trash
>>100365551why are you consciously deciding to lossily transcode your JPEGs you psychopath -j 0|1, --lossless_jpeg=0|1 If the input is JPEG, losslessly transcode JPEG, rather than using reencode pixels. Default is 1 (losslessly transcode)
-j 0|1, --lossless_jpeg=0|1 If the input is JPEG, losslessly transcode JPEG, rather than using reencode pixels. Default is 1 (losslessly transcode)
>>100382441Rude. I even pointed out that there's no software using hardware AVIF decoding (pointless feature).
>>100385330If they look the same, they're good enough
>>100385208AVIF is an AV1 bitstream so if anine was encoded with AV1 then they're both interchangeable.
>>100374614>periodically hits enter after every word because mentally ill>uses that font>uses Windows >randomly accuses people of being mentally ill and a boogeymanCooming has clearly rotted your brain
But then I'd lose all my 2006-2008 timestamps that prove I'm an eternal newfag!
>>100385260So edgy Retarded newfag came to 4chan after getting banned on Reddit
That’s great and all but now you can’t post any of those images on the 4chanOr any other place for that matterFucking retard
>>100386139so after you convert your h264 or 265 bluray rip to a shitty av1 encode, you can screenshot losslelssly?wow how is everyone not racing to adopt this
>>100386721Just say you don't understand how video compression works.
>>100372157Cry harder cuckold.I see you like wasting your time with unresponsive and laggy web interfaces while I can set my porn to slide mode or do anything since I have the files on my HDD.
>>100374660>good formatPNG is GPL go eat a dick
>>100386905losslessly
>>100386215>r*ddit typer and chrome user calling others retarded Ironic
>>100390453and yet he's right
>>100390711>heSamefag
>>100386905Do you? Prior posts suggest not.No, you can't just freely convert AV1 to AVIF without either cherry picking suitable keyframes or including tons of superfluous data.
>>100365551Images are <1% of my total drive space and I have every file from ex that I want 1.1T of images, so only like 3.3T or 40 bucks over the 3 drives of dupes. Is 20 dollars worth the a hundred hours of cpu time and killing all my torrents? For a meme format? no it's not.
>>100393659>hundred hours of cpu timegood morning sir
BMP only
>https://exhentai.org/g/2912247/9579c9b05f/You make me sign into sadpanda to see some generic ass titcow NTR doujin? Get better taste, faggot.
>>100369891https://pastebin.com/n8jNJLZJHere's your guide. Old as shit, but still works. Ignore the part about replacing exhentai with nhentai. There are doujins on the panda site you can't find on the normalfag site. Yes, the n in nhentai is for normalfag.
>>100365551>no reasonAs noted, this and AVIF aren't widely supported yet. Notably, the most important site on the world wide web, 4chan, does not support either format. Since almost every image I have is destined to make its way onto this site at some point, size reduction of 50% on the all the remainders is insignificant. Also,>high compression format leading to small files>called JPEG "XL"Very stupid choice of name.
>>100398040>this and AVIF aren't widely supported yetWhat are you talking about? Avif is supported by like 95% of all browsers, all operating systems and all image editors I tried. There is no relevant software that doesn't support avif. Jxl on the other hand...
There's no reason not to have both. The real war is between AV1 and VVC.4chan should use AVIF for thumbnails. That would discourage saving them.
>>100398095Not low level or image-specific software application compatibility, but more general-public software. If normies can't use it, they're going to think the files are broken. A new image format isn't that useful to me if some sizeable percentage of people I work or associate with are going to be unable to integrate my images into whatever workflows or collections or whatever they have.For example, AVIF is not supported by 4chan, but also neither by Bing reverse image search, nor saucenao reverse image search. I would guess closer to 95% of non-tech enthusiast-oriented tasks will break if given AVIF than the other way around.
>>100398102There's no reason for you to not lock yourself up in a mental asylum, Daiz.You'd lied for so long that you no longer understand what is going on.It's time to get help.
>>100398216>>100398095>>100398040There is indeed a correlation between retarded newfags, r*ddit typing and making retarded claims.
>>100397826Where is the cuckoldry, you retard
>>100372692>says NTA>calls others retardedIronic
>>100397857It was never about waiting one week, stop repeating this lie that was debunked years ago.
What's the best losst cjxl config balancing size snd visual similarity?
>>100379366MS Gothic but I edited it a little (the backslashes)
>>100376613Just a simple loop with some filesize comparisons. I'd share if it was simpler to use.
>>100371626sounds like I should use jpg if I don't want to pass images with hidden images in them.that must be why they were pushing nazis on pol to use png.
>>100400142d1that's the entire point
>>100402190There isn't anyone on pol who isn't a neo-Nazi
