I agree, it comes with the territory [0].


[0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California

>They're cool overall
Source?

They jerk each other off about how prestigious their academic and software engineering background is

>>100366629
and we don't?
>>100366418
Everyone in tech is cringe to a degree

>>100366418
I've noticed that they always side with big tech corporations against the interests of consumers and everyday people. It might have somethung to do with that most of them are employeed by big tech.

>>100366786
+1 karma

[flagged]

>>100366418
less cringe than lesswrong and reddit but still pretty cringe
4chan is the only site that will call you an retarded faggot when you're being a retarded faggot

>>100366418
/g/ has a lot of inane comments but it's not on their level
>Apple introduces M4 chip (apple.com)
>1312 comments
im sure that's some high quality discussion

>>100367563
4chen will also circle jerk you to completion for being a delusional schizo

>post has 2000 comments
>1850 of them are just a massive autistic reply chain to the first comment

>>100368553
well duh, if you don't reply to the first comment you're stuck on page 2-N and no one will ever read that

>>100366418
They were never cool. There was a clear shift; what happened was they got a massive influx of H1B Indians and runoff from Truth social.

>>100367799
I'm sure that 95% of it has nothing to do with the M4 and instead is some bullshit about how great risc is or isnt or something like that

>>100366418
Too many techbros and futurist/idealists. nobody is grounded in reality and are all removed from the lower echelons of society. that's how i feel about it. But i still check it every day for interesting new news along with the register

>>100367799
The consensus of the current demographic consistently boils down to:
>free markets are all you need
>real capitalism has never been tried; capitalism works
>If you were born poor, you deserve it, just don't choose to be poor
>yeah we insider traded and coordinated a bank run and had the government bail us out; it's not a big deal, there was no crime, nobody got hurt, and we'll do it again
> $1200 stimulus
>mass immigration not our problem

and the absolutely retarded
>darwinian antisocial pathology (making the vulnerable suicide. promote suffering) is healthy for civilization when i get to inflict it on others

>>100368800
So it's like the opposite opinions of Reddit except for immigration perhaps.

>>100366418
>They're cool overall but randomly become really comically cringe and I can't figure out why or how, it just sort of happens.
Flagging isn't supposed to be reddit-tier downvotes but in practice that's how it gets used. So on topics that are either contrary to the orange reddit hivemind, or against the contractual interests of a PR company hired to manage sentiment there, content simply vanishes.

>>100366456
I hate this shit so much
niggers do this in mailing lists too

>>100366418
enough reddit users randomly dominate a specific thread and it all goes to shit. More and more of them are reddit insufferables every day, so this will only get more common.

>>100366418
I'd be poor without these niggas but they are still pure cancer

>>100366418
You have people from upper tier universities working at selective tech companies, and surrounded by others the same as them.
Anything not on their radar they dismiss, cuz if it was a true thing that smart people should know about it, they or their friends would know about it already right?
They don't realize the level of groupthink they have, and even if you force them to confront it, they double down on it and think it must be right anyway because their groupthink is the smartest groupthink.

>>100366418
whining about a different platform is more cringe, to be honest
if orange reddit's bad and cringe, what does that make (You)?

>>100367563
>4chan is the only site that will call you an retarded faggot when you're being a retarded faggot
This, some light bullying is (apparently) required to keep society civilized.
>>100366418
>They're cool overall
Sure, if you find pretentiousness cool.

Don't chase imaginary internet points, speak what is on your mind and saviour the moment.

Decent corner of the internet where I learn a lot, and which has relatively decent discussion.
Recommended for morning coffee add on to get an understanding of that corner of the world.

>>100366456
I thought it was cute at first, but then it became so pretentious very quickly.

>>100366629
Kudos to that. Please give me kudos back. Kudos kudos kudos.

>>100368721
It used to be that. Now it's bickering about whether Apple has entered a secular decline.

>>100367563
>an retarded faggot
it's "a retarded faggot" you retarded faggot

>>100368800
Eh it used to be libertarians. I think the Redditors have come and flushed out most of those. Most of the time if there's a thread about something bad happening most of the highly upvoted top level comments say something along the lines of "maybe maximizing shareholder value isn't a good idea." For some reason they don't quite get the idea that torching the company shareholders are invested in isn't actually maximizing shareholder value but the nuance is lost on these people, their brains are completely replaced with the cybernetic upvote recommendation loops.

massive brain drain, haven't read the comments since the pandemic. there are no intelligent people there and it hasn't been a good headline aggregator for longer. classic view is almost entirely different now lol
https://news.ycombinator.com/classic

>>100374221
For a while you could still find the interesting headlines by checking comments instead of main because whatever was most controversial was probably good.

>>100368901
Are you sure your mail reader isn't just showing you HTML email that's been rendered by elinks?

>>100366629
Do you have a single peer reviewed source to back that up?

>>100368800
you havent been there in awhile. everyone there is overwhelmingly pro state, pro regulation, pro authority in almost every single regard

the amount of europe worship there is unreal

>>100366418
There's plenty of smart people there in terms of technical knowledge but I wouldn't say many of them are wise. They are also a bit naive to put it politely and more than happy to suck off their corporate retainers from inside their bubble. Slowly morphing into reddit.

>>100368553
This pisses me off so much, it's nearly always about something retarded like this >>100367799 was.

>>100368751
Likewise.

>>100374303
This. Now they're just shitty SF leftists through and through. Think their opinions on politics matter because they make mid 6 fig salaries.

>>100374397
>Slowly morphing into reddit.
it's been reddit. tons of epic reddit joke/pun chains and jokes "did anyone else read this as X" that dang would have deleted in an instant before are left undisturbed

>>100374443
>>100374303
All of the sane people were banned over BLM/COVID/vax/DEI stuff or quietly stopped posting because it's so awful now so the leftist nuts are all that's left.

>>100374457
>tons of epic reddit joke/pun chains
It's weird seeing that now. Even just a few years ago that wouldn't fly.

>>100366418
i am still surprised how otherwise well educated and knowledgeable people become complete fuckwads when talking about any country other than the US

>>100374457
These upvote/downvote website all devolve into a shitty circlejerk eventually. I'm not saying this place is much better, but at least between all the racism, antisemitism, and other retarded bullshit, I can sometimes find an interesting discussion that goes against the grain. Whereas the same if the same against the grain comment were posted on reddit, it'd be downvoted to the bottom with little or no discussion.

>>100366418
they are apple cocksuckers

>>100374525
>Whereas the same if the same against the grain comment were posted on reddit, it'd be downvoted to the bottom with little or no discussion.

Whereas if the same against the grain comment were posted on reddit, it'd be downvoted to the bottom with little or no discussion.

Can't fucking type today

>>100368553
>interesting science or space headline
>dOOOOd aliens
>dooood this one scifi novel i read [diarrhea of text]
i can't stand these things or when they make retarded "why don't they just" comments on topics they know nothing about

>>100370850
This
I've never seen a group of educated people so delusional about how the world operates
Reading the comments you'd think every company in the world is a hipster tech startup

>>100374525
there's another issue that the dowboat on hn is an "i disagree with you button." it's used maliciously and to derank no-no opinions you're not allowed to have.
and any time there are launches of vc buttbuddy things, they also collude to astroturf it and make it look better

>>100374630
Slashdot has an interesting moderation system
https://slashdot.org/moderation.shtml

Though I disagree that posting anonymously is inherently cowardly. I think it allows for more discussion, and prevent losers from stalking people over petty disagreements (which has happened to me multiple times actually, not on Slashdot though, I don't use it).

>>100374630
the business interest ycombinator has in HN being used to promote their startups is pretty annoying at times.

>>100374733
i don't participate anywhere with names but i like them as a filtering mechanism. on somewhere like hn, there are actual ccp shills and crazy/stupid people that i know to hide instantly

>>100374844
There was that one absolutely lunatic apple shill who's name started with a Z. Every fucking Apple thread he would take the most fucking brain dead gay position and absolutely hammer it.

i stopped going to the shit orange site when I could guess with 90% accuracy the comments of every thread

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>>100374172
Shareholder capitalism in the worst thing to happen in the last 50 years though.
Now its fuck the consumer, fuck product quality, fuck the employees, only thing that matters is stock go BRRRRRR

>>100374221
They're still toeing the line on the mRNA injections and the lab leak theory being evil racism. In the past month, there's been some open push back on DEI stuff, probably because most of the support for DEI/ESG was artificial and those resources are now deployed elsewhere. Speaking of which, most posts about Israel get instaflagged. It's not unusual to see a thread get flagged and then brought back by someone vouching for it and then get flagged again and revouched half a dozen times. There are definitely people assigned to make sure the wrong conversations regarding Israel don't happen there.

>>100368800
HN hasn't been like that in a while and has largely been taken over by leftist scum just like Reddit. Also, at this point in history, if you are born poor you most likely have bad genetics.

>>100374499
That place is infested with "everything Europe does is awesome sauce, everything the US does is evil and stupid because Americans are all evil and stupid (except in California)" type posters. Not sure how many are Europeans and how many are US based leftists.

>>100374443
Most of them don't make 6 figure salaries and most of them now are shitty low tier leftist web developers. Basically everyone at FAANG openly hates HN now.

>>100377890
>There are definitely people assigned to make sure the wrong conversations regarding Israel don't happen there.
that might be changing
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40267639

Show HN: I built an AI-powered relevant XKCD finder using the Pareto principle.

>>100368553
i hate that, and then their paid janny will pin his comment to the top of the comments saying "just so you know, there are other pages of comments to check out". like NIGGER, how are you faggots so lazy that you STILL haven't implemented endless scrolling after all these years? you could do that in a half day

>>100377739
injections of funds from governments and massive private funds is the real issue.
Shareholder capitalism is fine, but is easily hijacked if there’s no staunch moral structure underpinning the corporation.

In other words, corporations that behave like you suggest fail unless they are buddy buddy with the government or their banker friends.

>>100377890
So basically you're mad they won't let you be an edgelord.

Useful in the metamodern sense that other PoVs and sources are holistic.

Otherwise, Rule #10.

>>100378275
haha our server is on fire today, i've turned pagination on :^)

>>100378390
that's 95% of the complaints about reddit/HN
>they banned me because i said nigger, it's a jewish conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>100378390
>Anyone who disagrees with politicians is an edgelord
Sad thing is you're probably not even trolling, you're actually that stupid.

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ok this might be the best hn post of all time

>>100366418
>can't figure out why
Because programming and even more """coding""" is cringe. When it comes to the mathematics behind programming, for example algebra, z-groups, algorithms and data structures, complexity, have some interest and are what's good about programming but even these are not worth obsessing about.

>>100366786
>and we don't?
Who's we? I don't, I'm a virgin, I can't brag.

People make technology and programming their personalities when they're just tools/hobbies. Autists on the web are unbearable in the same ways they're unbearable in real life, except now its called a much more endearing "neurodivergent" and they have other autists around them to constantly "affirm" their "intelligence".

>>100381159
Autism is a diagnosis...

But what if NOT having autism is the actual diagnosis?

Being autistic means that you are untamed, wild & free. Being a 'normie' means that you are tamed, enslaved & subdued.

I think the unbroken Native European (Nordic) man is by default 'autistic'.

>>100381198
the mentally ill always think it's everyone else that is mentally ill

>>100381198
there's a difference between intelligent men and autists anon
autists troon out in huge numbers;
autists are usually supernormies in their beliefs, vulnerable to social manipulation due to their literally retarded brains
autists are only good as slaves managed by intelligent men, code apes
all this while they have stunning arrogance and total lack of introspection, et alia
relatable?

>>100368901
>>100374097
How else would you source something if you are using multiple links? I think having a marker is nice for the times when I want to read more about what they are talking about.

>>100366418
They were always cringeworthy and post pseudointellectual stuff all the time. They also ban you for not supporting Israel. Y Combinator's only output are people who go >umm actually

The crypto hate there is so disgustingly coastal Democrat American. Without crypto I couldn't hold a stable currency out of reach of my government. They think everybody has a $100k USD limit on the credit card and a fat Schwab account that vests every 4 months on their meme ZIRP company stock. That site made me hate Americans.

Reddit is in their DNA, because those fagg redditors were the first startup they incubated

>>100370813
What did you learn there?

>>100374525
Fuck off nigger

>>100382402
source it right after your statement in parantheses or brackets (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico)

>>100366418
just avoid the posts that are not programming related, easy

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>>100366418
>Headline: Purple skin in Albino African-Americans can lean to an increase Skeet Shooting scores.
>Random user: I'm and expert in Albino African-Americans who did a PhD in the color purple. Let me regurgitate what the story is about...

>>100374571
literally happened with Snow Crash last time I read HN
read the plot summary on wikipedia, couldn't see how it was relevant other than 'let me mention a book I like without explanation of its relevance'

>>100377948
that's actually true, though. apart from the bit about california.

>tourists complain about how locked down reddit alpha is then complain about the speech of others here
When we win we need to kill everyone with a reddit account. Every. Single. One.

>>100366867
>It might have somethung to do with that most of them are employeed by big tech.
Ycombinator is literally a VC fund. They are everything wrong with society, and so are the people they attract. That's why the IQ of the forum has dropped so drastically ever since Crypto and AI have attracted all the retards and pajeets.

>>100376912
yeah say what you will about /g/ but due to the schizos I can only predict 80% of the comments here

>>100367563
>anonymous bbs
Selects for the most controversial, shit stirring posts, because they're what drives engagement.
>voting systems
Selects for the most tepid and reduced to the mean type posts as the edges of the bell curve are lobotomized, both the smart and the dumb. Only consensuses matters.

Also 4chan really needs to ditch bump limit dictating thread position and life in the catalog. It's created a whole bunch of worthless posters only interested in keeping their now equally worthless general threads bumped in a zero sum game. It's a complete waste of space.

>>100377739
Nice anti-racist version of the meme you've got there anon. Very progressive

>>100366456
i keked

>>100366456
What's wrong with this? Are 4cucks so used to not citing any sources for their retarded claims?

>>100368800
Huh? HN loves socialism

>>100366418

i agree. it was better years ago. now it is filled with normie corporate drones. overall not too bad but just not what made it useful to check for news.

>>100385778
they love it until there an actual social movement happening in which case all the posts are flagged and buried
follow and fork HackerNewsRemovals github if you want the truth

>>100385840
>they love it until there an actual social movement happening
so they're just bernie-esque liberals?

>>100385742
Yes. Only retards need sources. The rest of us know that we're right.

>>100377931
I was born poor but it's because my dad was rich but he never shared any with me. When he got cancer he sold off everything he had and vanished. I had to work for my middle school textbooks, my computer and groceries since I graduated elementary.
I value my time way more than money though so I'll just die poor.

>>100366418
Objectively the best technology forum on the internet

>Name a better one, you can't
>In before the infamous "4chan gee board", full of inane comments

>>100383965
the original version is "LEAVE THE LADY BE" you newfag teenager

>>100377739
Shareholder capitalism is hundreds of years old.
There were two kinds of colonies that became the US: the whitchburning ones that thought Europe wasn't Christian and conservative enough, and ones like Jamestown that were essentially company towns for the British and Dutch East India companies which were publicly traded companies.

Witch burning, stock trading, and shooting non-Whites and government employees are American culture going back hundreds of years, not some new thing from the past 50 years. What *is new* is immigrants and jews coming here and being surprised and upset by it.

>>100366418
the articles they post are genuinely interesting.
the comments are pure shit and can be safely skipped

Actual relevant people post there and the writing is of much higher quality than here.

>>100388274
How do you know I'm not Bill Gates calling you a nigger, nigger?

>>100385742
Because,[1] not only is it[2] obnoxious[3][4], but most[citation needed] people[5] use this format to cite only one (1)[6] source.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_(novel)
[3] See any comment section on https://news.ycombinator.com/
[4] Studies have shown this
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality
[6] Refer to >>100366456

for me, it's Technology board on the well known and epic funny website http://www.4chan.org

>>100389005
>[4] Studies have shown this[what studies?]

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I just made two posts on this shitty site under one username that both basically suppport eachother in making the same point, one is already -4 and other is 3, reddit effect is strong with this one.

>>100388958
anonymous bill gates is irrelevant.

>>100390028
post tits

>>100388274
>Actual relevant people post there
They used to. It's very rare these days. HN was always a bit of a peanut gallery but there used to be a lot of older tech workers and startup CEOs. These days only the peanut gallery is left and 4chan is a higher quality peanut gallery.

>>100389898
>two posts
>one username
>bot support each other
>same point
>one is -4
>other is 3
I don't understand what you trying to say. Is this an LLM generated post because it's non-sensical.
>reddit effect
I don't know what this is. You have to explain what reddit effect is

>>100388274
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

>>100366418
JIDF are incredibly obvious there

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>>100366418
>"Hacker"
Wannabe entrepreneur techbros.

>Hey guys look at this Rust to CLR backend compiler I made for fun
All the comments:
>Hurr durr but does it have a business case?

>>100367563
It is also the only place you can call out jeets without prefacing it with "I know it is a matter of cultural differences and management picking the lowest costs, I'm sure there are good Indian developers that just cost more".

>>100366418
They are fucking communists and no fun allowed...

>>100389898
Yeah if you reply to yourself like that you're going to get a -5 unless you say "the edit period expired but I also wanted to say...."

>>100390547
incredibly based but incredibly autistic take. why would you expect any normal person to go through that for file management. 2007 was a simpler time.


Also, Jesus, I wish we still used flash drives to an extent. They’re actually good now! I got a higher end PNY flash drive 2 or so years ago and it is just USB-A but it’s actually just a tiny SSD. My computer sees it as a SCSI device. It’s fast as hell, wish they published what was in this thing. Almost every other flash drive I’ve bought over the years have been really terrible, but I guess that’s forgivable if you’re selling them so cheap.

>>100383942
I don't even know why we have user voting at this point. Just ask a chatbot if the post is quality and on topic and put it at the top.

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Classic pjmlp
I for one welcome our new AI overlords.

Long time HNigger. Just post your comment then block their site in DNS for a week or two and let the midwit contrarians and nitwit shills sort it out.

>>100391255
the chad 50+ year old who worked at cern and constantly posts about other languages doing things better. i love when he posts about c++/winrt every time to make ms devs mad

>>100366418
Everything coming out of Silicon Valley and Y Combinator has been a huge net negative for society. Even with effective jewtruism, they fuck it up massively and tank people's entire life savings.

YCombinator is Reddit tier and don't pretend that anything on there is trustworthy or factual.

orange site bad

>>100391255
pjmlp really is one of the worst posters on the entire site.