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Ste(AMD)eck

the power keeps tripping in my poorfag apartment building what UPS should i get ?

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AYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

>>101104826
Have the AyyMDfags turned on AMD Unboxed?

>>101104847
https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1dk9cki/why_amds_bad_benchmarks_are_bad_investigating_the/

Yup, they are seething

>>101104780
the amazon recommendation

>>101104826
If only they'd benched them @ 720p with a rtx 5090ti

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Hello /g/uys.
What would be the best course of action for someone who want a new build without a GPU but still being capable for one later on? It will mainly be for multitasking, since games that I usually play are from 2010-ish or before. Should I get an AMD APU? Thanks.

I’m going for a 4080 S but I’m stuck between: PNY RTX 4080 Super Verto triple fan OC for $950
Or
PNY XLR8 4080 Super Verto Epic - X triple fan OC. For $1000

I don’t care for the RGB so is there any reason to get the xlr8 over the slightly cheaper version?

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I'm addicted to memes /g/ and built a system as such;
>7900xtx
>4k
>240hz
>oled
>mechanical drives in system
>aio on 90w cpu
>TWO monitors mismatched monitors despite only play vidya
>gaymen mouse
>tkl keyboard
>use external amp and dac
>headphones that aren't sundaras
>windows 11
>optical drive

I need to know - have I missed anything critical I need to add to complete the collection?

>>101104892
*while still being capable

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Installed a new card (PowerColor Red Devil AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT) but the monitor I have now doesn't have a DisplayPort port so I can't get 144hz out of it (used to get 144hz with a DVI which the new card doesn't have a port for, and HDMI doesn't get me 144hz) so I'm looking for a new monitor with a proper Displayport port to fit it.

https://www.amazon.com/Sceptre-FreeSync-DisplayPort-Speakers-E248B-FPT168/dp/B088VMY23M
I saw this on Amazon, does it look any good? Recommendations would be appreciated as well, I'm fine with 1920x1080, Anything under $200.

>>101104826
you know its bad when amdunboxed start defending intel

>>101104947
>with a proper Displayport port
Have you considered an adapter? Being really clueless here, as I don't know if they support those refresh rates (or if even exist)

>>101104947
What is your existing monitor?

>>101105027
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01H5KKQTM
>>101105017
I'm as clueless as you, sorry.

>>101104947
monitors unboxed recs AOC 24G4

>"bro you dont need 4tb for vydia it's too much, 2tb is more than enough"
>1 day in and already have 1tb of vydia stored

thank god I went with 4tb

>>101105152
and how much of video games have you played

Which has better image quality?
HDMI™: 2.1 VRR and FRL
or
DisplayPort: 1.4 with DSC

>>101104926
mitx or matx

>>101105163
I'm playing all day, anon.

>>101104913
We had some return their Verto because of annoying fan curves and the build quality felt cheap.
They both have neutered maximum power limits, no extra OC headroom (320W cap).

>>101105182
>HDMI™: 2.1 VRR and FRL

>>101105070
Well it supports HDMI 1.4 which is capable of 1080p 144hz from a bandwidth perspective - can you see in the manual anywhere where it says this is not supported?

>>101104913
XLR8 is much better, it's one of the best 4080 Super out there if you're looking for silence and efficiency.
Like >>101105288 said, it has locked TDP and the stock vBIOS has a weird fan curve but PNY released an update to it that fixed it..

Even if you're looking for OC, you can flash another card's vBIOS (like the Suprim X) and the card will handle 400w TDP just fine.

>>101105182
What sort of setup doesn't support VRR over DP 1.4?

>>101105470
ps5?

>>101105152
>stored
As in installed for all of your pirated vidya because lmao fuck seeders?

>>101105486
PS5 is neither applicable to /pcbg/ nor does it have a DP port.

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>>101105223
Shit that is a good one to consider but at the same time seems mutually exclusive to optical drives and i'd prefer discs for maximum nostalgia and/or shitposting.

>>101105505
so if you buy a monitor with a dp port and want to use it for ps5 you'd have hard time getting vrr to work

>>101105522
It is rarer by a HUGE margin for VRR to be supported on hdmi but not DP. To the point it becomes a very niche and unique scenario.

>>101105548
most vrr tvs dont have dp ports

>>101105575
Which inherently invalidates the original post as DP was specified as available.

>>101104520
What’s the best site to use to get a 5090 when they’re released? I’ve been using the evga step up program to get cards on release since the 7800gt but they finally shut down. Is there any way to beat the scalpers with some kind of stock scanner tool?

>>101105620
I dunno, are you in Sweden? UK? US? Nigeria?

>>101105397
I don't have the manual anymore, I just know the HDMI isn't working because I plugged it in and I'm stuck at 60.
The cable in question: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08M9HND4F

>>101105288
>>101105401
Reliability is most important to me and of course getting the most out of what I paid for. Do you have a recommendation for a different brand in the same price ($1000)?

Otherwise I might go with xlr8

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i've been out of the pc building world for a few years so go easy on me. i game at 1080p or 4k 144hz depending on what i'm playing as my tv can do both. some forza, some nba 2k, a lot of normie titles desu. but i also work as a tech for a local point of sale company so i enjoy tinkering and optimizing things. i just went intel/nvidia because that's what i know and i'm used to.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DZhg6D

>>101105688
>I don't have the manual anymore,
it is on their website - download it and read it.

>>101105748
get 7800x3d with am5 mobo instead
2tb ssd
4070 super is fine
750w psu is better
fractal north is popular these days

>>101105835
thank you, why is the 750w better aside from better>x

>>101104520
that's how you know a pc was build by a pedotroon

>>101105912
no real reason, maybe better efficiency and allows putting in higher watt upgrades later but since they dont cost much more theres not much point to lowball the psu

>>101105916
cable management?

>he bought amdip
lol
>he thinks about being early adopter of poozen5
lmao
i still can't to this date fathom why someone would willingly buy into amd, when their platforms are always buggy and messy and most likely short lived.

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>>101105741
The XLR8 is the best you'll get at that price, the only thing I'd consider an upgrade from it would be the MSI Suprim X or ASUS Strix.
Considering how good its thermals are and how high it can clock despite the locked TDP, I think it's nearly impossible to run into reliability issues.

See pic related, it beats top-tier cards on quiet BIOS with thermals not far from the top performers.
It won't overclock as high as unlocked TDP cards but it's not recommended to do so on 4080S anyways. It's much better to undervolt to get same/better performance than stock with lower power consumption.

>>101105688
If it's an old HDMI cable, you'll need a better one that supports higher bandwidth. Not all HDMI cables are equal.
There are DisplayPort to DVI adapters, but you'll likely need a Dual Link one to achieve 144hz, and those are pricey and finicky.

cant believe i blew 5k on a gaming build just to play for a couple hours and then get bored. vydia is so boring nowadays, there's nothing to play.

>>101106056
time to fire up world of warcraft, lots of old people love it
maybe make AI loli porn or use AI upscaling and conversion to 60fps on anime for fun

>>101106038
Thanks m8

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>>101106056
The real trick is to spend LOADSEMONE just to play 20 year old games at unlimited framerate and fps.

>>101106056
I literally upgraded my sh*t for 300$ with 6800, couldn't be happier, when you consider I only spam league games as yumme and do browse 4fags on side.

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>>101106350
I need 4k for maximum funposting.

>>101105152
even 4tb isn't enough but it gets expensive past that point

Lads, would a 5800X non 3D bottleneck a 7900XT or should I save some dollarydoos and just get the GRE? System is used purely for gaming, replacing a 1080ti.

>>101106523
just get 5700x3d + 4070 super

>>101106543
> 4070 super
You misspelt 7900 GRE

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>>101106056
This is why I'll never upgrade my PC again. All I play is TF2, Minecraft, and the occasional old single player game. Nice thing is my GTX 1080 can run them all at 4K without problems.
My PC is truly NEVER OBSOLETE. (I should make one of these stickers and slap it on it).

>>101106523
>5800X non 3D
sell that and get a 5700X3D from aliexpress, they're like 150$
>bottleneck a 7900XT
probably, depends on games and resolution
>should I save some dollarydoos and just get the GRE
kinda dumb to cuck yourself out of a better card just because of the possible bottleneck, just spend more and upgrade to a 3D cache chip

What is the coolest msi lighting card ever made? Don't give a fuck about performance, this is purely for style. The 290x perhaps?

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>bought amd
>dislike name and look of gskill ripjaws
>buy crucial ram instead
>pc takes 2 minutes to boot
>already years have passed

>>101106782
enable fast boot

>>101106609
Can the power usage estimate in pcpart picker be trusted? My current 12 year old power supply is 600W and I wanna know if i can reuse it or should I upgrade?

>>101106790
does it skip ram testing?

>>101106782
It's training the RAM. Happens on all DDR5 systems, but on AMD systems, a lot of motherboards have a bug that they do it every time the PC boots. Try updating your BIOS, although 40-50 seconds or so is a pretty typical boot time on a DDR5 system, compared to 5-10 seconds on DDR4.

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>buy i9 14900k
>"lol faggot enjoy your house fire"
>my house fire

did I just btfo all amd cucks, bros?

>>101106811
don't even mind it taking a bit but the screen is just dead for 90 seconds, looks like it only then turns on

>>101106811
>40-50 seconds or so is a pretty typical boot time on a DDR5 system, compared to 5-10 seconds on DDR4
What the fuck? I thought computers were supposed to get faster over time not slower!?

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whats the go with ram these days?
if i want 64gb, is it better to get 2 sticks over 4?
if i get another 2 sticks for 128, does that slow things down?

>>101107023
With DDR5 NEVER use 4 sticks.
It will slow things down and will make XMP unstable.

>>101106800
>Can the power usage estimate in pcpart picker be trusted?
No but it is a guideline. ALWAYS look up the specific model you are buying in reviews to see specific power draw - there can be a world of difference between reference and the super ultra turbo XXX porn-o-matic model.

>>101105788
>>101106053
Alright, looked at the manual and did other research, looks like I'd have to get an adapter for 144hz. That seems like a hassle and the monitor in my original post isn't much more pricey, so once again I'd like to ask if it's any good.

>>101106820
>Idle power
Lol lmao even
>https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/firmware-flaw-affects-numerous-generations-of-intel-cpus-uefi-code-execution-vulnerability-found-for-intel-cpus-from-14th-gen-raptor-lake-to-6th-gen-skylake-cpus
Enjoy your speedholes too

>>101107034
same on both platforms?
what if i need 128gb (video editing) later on, how bad is 4 sticks over 2?

Any suggestions for cheap Win11 keys? Just want to see if there are any alternatives to Digital Chill Mart or Vendafly. I noticed the price went up for Vendafly which is cringe.

>>101107072
>6-14th gen
2500K bros..... WE CAN'T STOP WINNING

>>101104826
works fine with my 5800x3d
I hope my choice will continue to be correct

>>101107072
>amdpoor triggered

lmao

>>101107087
If you need 128GB and need 4 sticks then you just need 4 sticks
Nothing inherently wrong with it, your memory will just run slower but it's not worse than having to little RAM

>>101107130
I need 128GB for WOW

>>101107087
Then you either go 2x48gb or 4x48gb
4x32gb is not a great setup since the 48gb sticks put less load on the CPU and can run faster when 4 are installed

>>101107105
Why are you paying for it?

>>101107105
You can get a windows 11 pro key for like 30, anon. is it really that expensive for you?

>>101105152
I went with a 10tb 7200rpm hdd

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>>101107072
Oi veii mossad working on AI, buy more goyim.

>>101107221
Based. SSDs are a fucking scam.

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>>101107072
awww, everybody laugh at the AMD fag. lol

>>101107207
I mean if I can get it for like $15 or $20, why not? My enjoyment of Windows has been going to shit and apparently they're starting to include intrusive ads in their fucking payed OS so if I can pay less and hold out just a little bit more before moving to Linux, it'll be worth it.

>>101107249
>savage garden
>laugh
u wot

7900 gre

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>should i get a quest 3 (vr) to replace my desktop display?

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>>101107023
Depends on motherboard and ram speed. Stick to popular brands. Check the QVL list on the motherboard specs page.
Don't expect 7000mt to run stable.
If you get a motherboard which struggles with XMP on 4 sticks then the speed drops right down to 3600MT, (4800MT on 2x sticks)
>>101107034
>if you use 4 sticks it will create a negative reality inversion which will destroy the universe
It works fine, just don't expect it to go over 6000MT and be stable.

>>101107261
>dumb zoom zoom

>>101107326
No. It doesn't have the resolution to replace it. The pixel density is somewhere between looking at a 30" 540p and 720p display at arms length.

>>101107226
>Intel made 2.4ghz WiFi
No wonder WiFi coincidentally works in the band of frequencies just right to cook water
Joos just want to kill goys whenever they can

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>>101107452
>shintel is not mossad spyware, let's trivialize and ridicule this goy.

>>101107503
yes goyim intel bad buy amjeet
lmfao, this is literally amd pajeet propaganda

>>101107510
>https://merip.org/2023/09/india-israel-and-the-coordination-of-control/

During this time, India also became the world’s biggest purchaser of Israeli military technology. The two states signed a defense deal worth approximately $2 billion during Modi’s 2017 trip to Israel. The deal, one of the largest in Israeli history, became a source of scrutiny in 2021, when reporting by The Wire revealed that around the BJP’s electoral victory in 2019, the Israeli company NSO’s Pegasus spyware was potentially installed on mobile phones belonging to opposition leader Rahul Gandhi. A New York Times report from January 2022 revealed that Pegasus was a central part of the 2017 deal. The Modi Government denies it ever purchased Pegasus. But import documents accessed by the Organised Crime and Corruption Reporting Project confirm that India has bought hardware from NSO that “matches the description of equipment used elsewhere to deploy the company’s flagship Pegasus software.”


Sorry, that would be pisrael shintel, they love jeets especially when used as biological weapon against white man.

>>101107384
i see, thanks

>>101107341
Would it still drop to 3600mt/s if you're just running basic JEDEC 4800CL40 / 5200CL42 / 5600CL46 dimms?

>>101106782
>He bought Micron system memory

>>101107553
nice propaganda amjeet this has nothing to do with intel

Bought an AOC monitor off of Amazon. Was good overall but I just noticed a dead/stuck pixel that can no longer do blacks so it just looks red. It hasn't been a month yet should I just get a replacement from Amazon or go through the manufacturer instead?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C8ZJKPWC

>>101108780
Try running this overnight overnight to see if you can "wake it up":
https://www.jscreenfix.com/
If that doesn't work, it's more painless to go through Amazon.

With ram latency how important are the numbers after the first? Like if it's listed CL 30-XX-XX-XX, are they pretty much irrelevant if I just need it for gaming?

>>101104847
Oh you mean Steve from cuckware unboxed who told his viewers to go buy AMD cards but at the same time uses a 4090 in his personal system and was also sent an asus matrix platinum 4090 which costs over 6k and says he's not an nvidia shill what an absolute faggot

>>101109130
They all contribute but you're 90% of the way there just enabling XMP/EXPO
If you want that last 10%, you could look up what RAM chips your kit has and check Buildzoid's guide on DDR5 RAM timings tuning

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If the most strenuous thing I do is a lot of video encoding, is there any reason to look at older cheap server CPUs (Epyc/Xeon) with a gazillion cores vs. a 14700K/7900X?

I could use some help figuring out a few things. I can't seem to hold 144fps in a lot of (older) modern games. Like No Man's Sky, Tarkov, The Finals. I just want a stable 144 on 1080p I don't even have a great monitor. Here are some of my specs

>Ryzen 9 3900x
>RTX 3080
>32GB DDR4 3600Mhz
>M.2 SSD (can't remember the brand but it shouldn't be affecting frames that much). I know its pretty vague I'm not at my house so I can't list all my specs off the top of my head, but it's been a struggle. I've had people tell me it's my processor, but "the internet" says the R9 3900x should be plenty. It's also more expensive than some of the newer Ryzens I've looked at. Am I just a fucking retard?

>>101109370
Jesus Christ I'm a fucking moron. Phone posting is such a pain in the ass.

>>101109362
My Xeon X5690 does not have internal .265/6 decoding or whatever its called, it can't play my 4k GH5 video (m1 air can)
Its a old system, but make sure whatever you get had hardware decoding

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>>101109362
>DELL VENDOR LOCKED
it seems like people forgot about amd's psb feature
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAVlHy05XzM

>>101109370
>>101109379
What FPS are you getting? In Tarkov at least looks like @ 1080p with a 3080 and stronger CPU than your 3900X 100-120 FPS average is normal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m40lED0octw&t=353s

No Man's Sky looks to be getting 140-160 FPS Average again with a better CPU:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgSECUcgPFw&t=0s
Make sure PBO and your advertised RAM settings are setup correctly. Also that Windows Power Plan is set to Performance Mode.

>>101109388
>>101109405
Noted thanks.

>>101109405
>amd's psb
thank you amd. cheap xeons are still the future

>>101109478

It's been a while since I've played Tarkov however if I remember then it would normally hover around 100 or less and that's playing Tarkov Arena instead of regular Tarkov. NMS gets about 120.
This is also with adjusted settings. I'm very rarely pressing the ultra or epic settings and usually running them on high with shadows turned down and a few other settings off or lowered. I'm at a complete loss because all those videos show excellent framerate while playing and I just can't grasp why I can't do it. Really getting 144 in most games for me doesn't happen.

>Ready or Not - ~110
>NMS - 120
>Predecessor - 100fps with VERY consistent hitches in gameplay.
>The Finals - about 110fps maxed out (surprisingly runs better than I expected)
>Tarkov and Tarkov Arena - 90 to 100fps with lowest settings possible.
120fps isn't exactly terrible, but I was expecting to at least 144 1080p on most games I play with a 3080 and a Ryzen 9. I'm half tempted to buy a new Ryzen 9 7k series because it's cheaper than what my 3600x is.

>finally find ram with everything I need
>It has fucking RGB shit so it's unnecessarily tall
>Have dual tower cooler so I would have to actively make my cooling worse if I wanted this ram
>Not like the RGB would even be visible under the fan
I fucking hate looking for ram

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>>101109370
You need to run hardware monitoring. The easiest way to do this is using Geforce statistics/performance overlay. If you have the Geforce overlay enabled, you can toggle the statistics with Alt+R. If your GPU is at or near 100% utilization, it's the limit, and if not, your CPU is likely the limit.

>I can't seem to hold 144fps in a lot of (older) modern games. Like No Man's Sky, Tarkov, The Finals
First, you don't necessarily need to hold 144 FPS. If fact a lot of games won't. Make sure you have an adaptive sync capable monitor and have G-sync enabled in the Nvidia Control Panel. If you don't have an adaptive sync monitor, time to upgrade.

A game like EFT needs a stronger CPU than you have for excellent performance, for instance a 5700X3D. If you play a lot of multplayer games, you should prioritize a CPU with strong gaming performance (cores are almost irrelevant). Keep in mind that pic related contains games that aren't CPU limited, compressing the performance vs what can be expected in a CPU limited scenario.

>>101109592
Believe in CAMM2 for desktop

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reminder that 8th gen intel cpu from 6 years ago wouldn't be too different from latest x3d cpu as long as you upgrade your nvidia gpu

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>>101106523
Avoid Radeon

>>101107321
>>101106609
Garbage

>>101107105
>>>/g/fwt

>>101105748
That's one of the worse models of 4070 Super. The ASUS Dual is a couple bucks more and better. You want an ATX 3.0 PSU unless you already have that one (you can search by 12VHPWR on pcpartpicker). I'd also get a 2 TB SSD

Reminder that performance at 1080p and under are more relevant than ever because of DLSS
Check those 1080p benchmarks for your GPU AND CPU before making your purchases

>>101109405
>psb
amd is doing everything possible to have as little of a market share as possible

>>101109650
Any game that has to use frame gen and upscaling is garbage and poorly developed stop using it as excuses and telling people to avoid Ayymd because they still are the masters at native rasterization and nvidia are not RT is a gimmick and so is frame gen

>>101109594
Well I'm almost positive I don't have an adaptive sync monitor. Is that really a big factor in holding fps?
>you don't necessarily need to hold 144FPS.
Well then what's the point in owning a 144hz monitor? Why should I buy a 144hz monitor to just cap my game at 120? It just bothers me. It's autism man. I god damn want those high frame rates.
>Multiplayer games should priority a cpu with strong gaming performance.
How do I know which CPUs are capable of that? I'm a fucking oldhead and frankly fell off the pc building YEARS ago. It's pretty annoying frankly because now I feel like a moron trying to upgrade my pc.

>>101109594
>>101109739

That graph helps a lot holy shit my CPU is down there on that list, that is DEPRESSING lol.

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>waiting (tm) on the 5090 to finish much build

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>>101109739
>Is that really a big factor in holding fps?
>Why should I buy a 144hz monitor to just cap my game at 120?
The point of adaptive sync is that it adjusts your monitor's refresh rate dynamically to match your FPS, minimizing judder and eliminating tearing. 120 FPS on a 144 Hz monitor without adaptive sync doesn't look good. On a 144 Hz monitor with adaptive sync, it does.

>How do I know which CPUs are capable of that?
Generally some research
https://youtu.be/luB77nCBsRk?si=OekxK8qV4T4MIvoe
But like I said, not all games will run well even with the best of hardware (e.g., EFT). That's one reason adaptive sync is so important

>>101109735
All demanding UE5 games are designed with reconstruction as the default. Get with the times

>they still are the masters at native rasterization
Delusional, have you heard of the 4090?

>>101109843
>he didn’t wait for arrowlake
Ngmi

>>101109885
i already had this build. only addition was the 14900k for ~$300

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Looking to get a new CPU for gaming/cpu-intense programs.
I have a micro-atx B450 motherboard, a ryzen 5 3600 and a 1660 gtx super gpu. I live in the USA and my budget is 500 dollars.

>>101109846
Damn alright I guess before I buy a new CPU I'll try a new monitor. Sucks because they're both about the same fucking price. Thanks for the help.

>>101109963
the microcenter 7800x3D bundle
See if you can swap the motherboard out for a micro. Reuse all the other parts you have

For ram, what brand should I avoid, and what brands are more reliable?

>>101109846
>4090
Yeah let's just compare $2000 cards to sub $1000 ones, lol. Most people aren't spending that much on a GPU no matter how much you shills want them to.

wen 5090

>>101109846
Brush your teeth
You smell like Jensen's cum even from here

why consume when you can just download more fps?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090

>>101109900
>Hot, loud and not that fast
14900k will start looking like the 11900k real soon...

>7950X3D thermal paste style
What's the best way to apply paste for a 7950X3D? Dot in the middle? Dot slightly below the middle? Line horizontal or vertical? X / cross? Something else?

I have an AIO (Liquid Freezer III) and the AM5 Thermal Grizzly mounting frame + gasket (I am not sure if I'm going to use this or not, but I will at least use the gasket). I have Prolimatech PK-3 (older, leftover but still good), and new Arctic MX-6 and Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme, the last of which I'm thinking about using. Of course, this is all assuming the AIO doesn't have applied paste already on it which it very well might, but still, good to know.

>Arctic Liquid Freezer III inverted mounting
I have a Crosshair X670E Extreme board which is one of those that in the normal arrangement, the the LF3's tubing will bang into (or will come damn close to) the heatsink directly below the socket. LF3 has a built in offset with its rather unique mount. Has anyone tried flipping it 180 degrees so the tubing faces up the board instead of down? An Arctic rep even told me I could do that, but I'd need to watch my temps but didn't specify as to why. However, the schematics of the drawing and mount etc.. suggest that it will retain the "proper" lower offset since the decision for the offset is not the block itself but the mounting brackets, so long as you don't reverse them you should be okay. So is the only difference in cooling with the tubing facing the top of the board.. the VRM fan? If that's the case, then it should generally be fine and not negatively affected at all in terms of the block!? Anyone tried this?

>>101110274
the cpu is fine anon.

Predictions for Battlemage?

>>101110383
cancelled for AI partnership with Nvidia

>>101110040
That's actually a great value . I'd feel better if they had X670E boards, but for the price it can't be beat and it even has a pretty solid board for a B650 and good Gskill DDR5 6000mhz RAM.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006709/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-asus-b650-e-tuf-gaming,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

Only downside is you need a a Microcenter nearby as I don't think they ship this stuff, its in store. However, if you've got one, this is pretty solid. They've even got a version of the bundle that takes the above and adds a 7900XT GPU, but it will be above his budget but still a good deal.

>>101110311
IIRC that cooler, as with most AIOs, comes with paste pre-applied. If you want to use your MLG PRO paste then a cross with 4 dots, like a pigpen cipher, is the go-to for AMD chips. Other applications will work fine though so long as you bias it towards the CCDs. Personally I just manually spread everything for consistency.

>>101104520
what's the best gpu for a ryzen 5 5500?

I play Elden Ring and it stutters a lot in the overworld. The frametimes are all over the place.

With Medium/High settings, MSI AB displays 60% GPU utilization and when I cranked it everything to max it goes to 95+.

Ryzen 5 2600, A320mh
1660 Super
16 GB(2x8GB) Ram 2400MHz
1080p 75Hz monitor

I'm guessing the CPU is holding me back?

>>101110383
Will probably be like when the 5700xt/rdna1 launched, so probably something thats midrange and inefficient with plenty of driver issues. It'll be a good stepping stone for whatever comes after battlemage if they build upon/improve that architecture.

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>>101110851
I ran these settings with a 3600+1660Ti and hit a consistent 1440p60 (excluding shader compilation ofc but that seems to be fixed). Try that and, if it doesn't work, it probably is your CPU. Possibly memory too as mine was 3200. The good news is that you can drop in a 5*00X3D and be G2G.

>>101110784
I was thinking it would as well, as I think the previous LF2 did, but apparently it does not - I just looked at the block currently and the copper on the cold plate is bare - it does come with a free included tube of MX-6 though which is nice (I, not knowing this and figuring I may need paste cleaning, grabbed one of those kits with some MX-6 + a pack of Arctic's paste removal and cleaning wipes, in addition to the Kryonaut Extreme I picked up earlier)
>Cross w/4 dots
Really? I vaguely remember hearing of it but I haven't built anything for AMD since their Ryzen lineup. If like a pigpen cypher, then the cross is more like an X then right, as opposed to the cardinal direction / crucifixion style? Are the dots intended to be close to the lines as in the cypher or should they be in the middle of the widest area of each for coverage?
>bias it for CCDs
So basically if I was to use any other application I'd need to move say, the dot or horizontal line slightly lower than the center of the CPU?
>manual spread
I've always been wary of that in that I worry that by making sure the IHS is properly covered, I'd put too thick a layer down? Is it easy with modern pastes to spread a proper layer?

Is high end thermal paste still a thing? What should I get?

>>101110952
I still have the same performance with both our settings 45-55 fps at 1080p. Ordering a CPU now, thanks for the help!

>>101111010
kpx

>>101110986
>then the cross is more like an X then...
>should they be in the middle...
Yes correct to both.

>I'd need to move say, the dot or horizontal line slightly lower than the center of the CPU?
Pretty much yeah. You'd also need more, relative to old Intel, because the IHS is larger.
Basically what you're doing is making sure there's sufficient paste above the hot spot i.e. the CCD(s). The other way to do that would be to make sure there's paste over the entire IHS (cross/manual technique).

>I'd put too thick a layer down?
As far as temps go there's not really a problem with using "too much" paste. Any excess just gets squeezed out. Messy and annoying but not damaging so long as it's non-conductive.
Frankly there's far too much discourse around paste application. It's bikeshedding - using *enough* is the #1 factor while the pattern might be good for a 0.5C swing under lab conditions.
You can test it yourself if you'd like. Super easy to repaste with an AIO. I made the mistake of using (far) too little on my first AM4 chip. Switching to a cross dropped my temps 5C but a manual spread made no difference.

>>101111010
Yes, they are but the good news is that the amount of difference between them has shrunk in the past decade or so . Its not like the days when Arctic Silver 5 was the best you could get and it had like a 200 hour cure time to get temperatures to the lowest point etc. Anyway pastes tend to fall into several categories

>ultra high end, conductive, other issues - Liquid Metal
These are not standard pastes but there are some.Coolaboratory Liquid Metal Pro, Indigo Xtreme, and a few others including the probably best option at current, Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Extreme. It has better thermal principles but the fact its electrically conductive, erodes anything that is nickel plated (ie you want a pure copper coldplate that is going to touch not a coated one) etc.. means more care must be taken. Most people don't need this sort of thing.

>Standard type pastes, high end options
The top end here are stuff like the newest Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme, Arctic MX-6, and a few others. Older pastes like Gelid Extreme, Kingpin/KPX, and Prolimatech PK3 are still good too. MX-6 is perhaps the most inexpensive of the high end pastes these days and improves on the already nice MX-4.

>Cooling pads
Most of the time pads suck - people think of default ones that used to come with old Intel heatsinks. Most pads are used in places that its hard or unsafe to use paste, but today there are some that are capable of equivalent or near equivalent cooling, such as the Thermal Grizzly KryoSheet (a graphene pad with paste-equivalent cooling potential You buy these in the intended size for your usage - it lists which CPU or GPUs each is made for. Note, these are not as bad as liquid metal as they don't drip but they ARE electrically conductive, so be smart), MinusPad Extreme (silicone based, not meant for CPU/GPU but VRM etc; pick thickness, cut to size, not conductive) or Arctic TP-3 (similar to MPExtreme, cheaper)

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What should I upgrade the CPU and videocard with?
I don't know anything about PC building and just took the parts list from Logical Increments.

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How seriously should I take this test? I wasn't even aware the motherboard had any impact on CPU performance, except of course things like overclocking
Instead of getting the HDV like i was planning to, should I go for the B650M A, considering it performs the best?

>>101111220
>CPU
5*00X3D with BIOS update.

>Card
Anything you want, budget permitting. Don't think I'd go over a ~4070S/7900GRE for 1080p but it's your money.

>RAM
Maybe a good time to get 32GB while you're at it.
If that's you then I'd recommend a fresh 2*16GB kit of 3200-16-18-18.

>Monitor
Touching on the above point, 1080p60 is sub-poorfag tier in 2024. If you've got a decent budget for the upgrade put some of it towards a 1440p/144 display at minimum.

>>101111300
The most impactful thing for a board is not power throttling the CPU. The HDV doesn't do that it just has a lower default TjMax. Which might actually be desirable but is easy to change if not.
The actual VRM temps are nice to look at but they're not dynamic like a CPU - lower than the throttle point doesn't "get" you anything. Plus you're probably not going to run a 7950X so the difference will be much diminished.
The HDV is basically the "sensible minimum" for AM5 where it can run any CPU available and has broad enough feature set for most users. If you need more, eg. PCIe5 for a video workstation, then spend more but otherwise save your money.
Also it's worth noting that the HDV is so popular that it frequently sells out or gets gouged. The PRO RS is a good alternative if that happens when you're buying.

>>101107565
I'm running 5200 so CL40 so getting the correct speed from them.
Before enabling XMP 2x sticks are 4800, 4x sticks are 3600. That's with ASRock motherboard. If it's different with different manufactures I do not know.
All I know is that it works.

>>101107221
Enjoy the load times

about to dust out my pc pray for me

are AiO's still a meme?
might get a good one if ti exists by now

why avoid the 4000D airflow?

>>101111573
Unless you get a 240/360mm or larger rad yes. Even then, they have a 6-7 year life before permeation evaporate a significant amount of the coolant if you can't refill it (and that assumes the pump lasts that long).

>>101111111

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What are normal x3d temps? Feel like 50-60 range is a bit too high but I'm also used to having a shitty 10400f which idled around 40 or so. Is this normal?

>>101105152
I don't bother with anything except beefy enterprise/datacenter HDDs at this point for my main system
>>101109362
Prepare to pay a kidney for the server motherboards, they are mlre expensive than the CPUs

>>101109689
>1080p
Why is this ancient resolution still being advertised? NVIDIA is still pitching the 3060/4060/Ti as a 1080p card nearly a fucking decade after the 1060 when people were running GTA V at 4K on their 660s 12 years ago.

>>101112352
depends on your cooler a bit but close to 60 at idle isn't good, 40+/-5 is what I would expect

>>101112393
1080p upscaled from a ps2 tier resolutions with dlss anon. The future is the past!

>implying the human eye can see past 1080p

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>>101112439
Well, my cooler is be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black CPU. And my mobo is Asrock b650m rs wifi. I did buy some chinky fairly expensive for what was offered to me thermal paste, but like, i also had previous cheapo paste be around the same temp as this one.

>>101111324
I never bothered updating the BIOS.
It's currently on F3, can I just update it to the latest version or do I have to go update by update?
And will this remove support for my current CPU?

>>101112507
You may want to check the fan curve at BIOS and if there is no problem there reseat that cooler.
You don't have the very best cooler but this is still not normal.

>>101112557
>can I just update it to the latest version or do I have to go update by update?
You can just directly update to latest.
>And will this remove support for my current CPU?
No.

>>101112560
Also buy something like MX-4 thermal paste to use after reseating.

>>101104520
FUCK YOU

>>101106820
amd faggots btfo once again

>>101112560
I did check the fan curve stuff and set everything to either standard/performance mode from silent. The temps did drop by about 5 degrees in general, but still nowhere near 40... I guess I'll order the thermal paste and try to clean up my cpu/heatsink better next time

>>101104892
it's either non-F or non-Vega iGPU

In which scenarios am I going to notice the difference between r5 5600(x) and 5700x? Upgrading from 2600, just to prolong my comfy PC's life.

>>101104520
>Post build list or current specs including MONITOR:
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/2tXyMV alongside a shitty 2012 1080p/60hz monitor.
>Provide specific use cases.
Games, from light stuff like FFXIV to heavy like Starfield.
>State BUDGET and COUNTRY
300-350€ max/Greece.

With all this in mind, is it even possible to have an upgrade at that price range? Using this PC has become a true hell of CPU bottlenecks and limitations (nevermind Starfield, I don't think even Dawntrail will be smooth on this piece of shit). Problem is, I am basically in poverty and can't really spend more than the budget stated, especially since I'd like a new monitor as well later on too.
A quick build I made is this: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/pHn6H2 so I can keep my current ram and double it, but I can't decide if this is even worth it or if I am fucking myself over with buying such old hardware.

Thoughts?

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I dont support goyslop globohomo tranny homosexual degeneracy I support Z the saviour of the white race

>>101112972
Basically none. The real next step up is a 5700x3d.

>>101113082
You mean the next step from 2600 or 5600?

ER DLC runs so shit it's almost forcing me to buy a monitor and a new pc or a console cause I can't take laptop life

>Slopcore 4k monitors are now cheap
>27" 144hz hdmi 2.1 48gbps bandwidth
>can run 4k144 without dsc and without nvidia blackscreen bugs and also use nvidia upscaling
are budget 4k slopcore monitors back on the menu? or do I just hold out and buy OLED
let me think about it

>>101113118
in a way both. If the 5700x3d is within budget it is the upgrade to make but if not the 5600 is still a reasonable choice.

>>101113178
Appreciated. I doubt I'll utilize the potential of 5600 even, so pointless to pay more.

I'm looking for a 4K IPS monitor for art and solo/casual gaming. I'm hesitating between Dell UltraSharp and Asus ProArt (in 27") so far.
You guys have any thoughts or other recommendations for me?

>>101113189
5600 upgrades could be had for free ages ago when old poozens were overpriced still, now I guess people realized how shit they are
x3d is insanely much faster cpu intensive gaymes
i guess if u run sub 120fps it might be fine but still
using anything but x3d for ryzens shit memory system is not good
might aswell buy a new platform at that point
>>101113231
is 60hz worth suffering for?

>>101113256
>is 60hz worth suffering for?
Maybe not. Any rec?

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Exactly 10 days until my final part comes and I can play Fortnite with the bros
What are you looking forward to playing after you build/upgrade your PC?

>>101113037
Based as fuck.
Death to globohomo!

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Rtx 4070 super and core i7 12700k

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Can 550w handle ryzen 5900x on eco mode? Gpu rtx 4070

>>101113448
retarded nigger I will rape you

>>101113448
Yes.

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Day 444 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

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AYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

>>101114507
Qrd?

>>101114542
They aren't nvidia

>>101114542
don't reply to nvidiafag

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>>101114542
no high end or low end amd gpu for rdna4. amd is gave up. next gen amd gpu will be a turd.

>>101114614
im a techlet and i dont get what are they going to sell during that time? the xtx for 500 bucks?

>>101114542
Literally won't even bother competing with Nvidia until 2027 at least.
>>101114578
Coping
>>101114614
Desu, AMD will transition to server GPU, embedded SOC maker in the following years and exit dGPU market, mark my words.
Poorfag gamers must hope that intel retains its momentum.

>>101114695
AI gpus for servers and handheld/console SOCs

>>101114720
>Desu, AMD will transition to server GPU, embedded SOC maker in the following years and exit dGPU market, mark my words.
/pcbg/ will finally get the nvidia monopoly it has wanted for so long.

>>101113426
Dragon half is shit

good?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GG6DL9

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>>101114734
>AI gpus
amd don't know how build ai gpus. their high end is on par with low end nvidia gpu

>>101114999
You're comparing results for AMD's gaming GPUs with Nvidia's gaming GPUs. Does the same apply for their server and business GPUs?

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>>101114999
>anon talks about server class hardware
>retard replies with consumer level hardware and software out of nowhere
Boy you must be scared of the MI325X

I will wait for AMD's MCM GPU.

>>101114542
>AMD will transition to server GPU, embedded SOC maker in the following years and exit dGPU market
Nvidia will exit the market so they dedicate more wafers to AI paypigs before this happens

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>>101115040
>>101115047
amd gpu market share is even worse than on desktop at just 3%

>>101115078
meant for >>101114720

>>101115084
Do you just have these pictures on standby? That was very fast.

Computer automatically restarted. In bios it showed CPU temperature >90°C, so I guess it got too hot. This is a new problem. What should I do about it?

>>101115063
Waiting for the second round of their abortion, this is why Radeon keeps feeding dogshit to willful customers.

>>101115078
NVIDIA will continue to make workstation cards and laptop dies, GeForce gets the leftover chips.

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>>101114542
They're not even going to show up for the enthusiast or above tiers because RDNA 4 is so lacking. One can only expect a marginal improvement despite being later than Nvidia again. It's already over, AMD will never be competitive again.

So are we just running out of space on CPU dies now? What's next?

>>101115189
Unfuck any manual voltage settings you’ve applied.
Reinstall the CPU cooler with even mounting pressure applied to the contact area.

>>101115240
I will never buy Nvidia. I will never buy Poointel.

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>AMD's largest R&D center is now in India
good morning sirs

>>101115246
AMD isn’t releasing high end RDNA4 because the are on a strict timer to deliver working RDNA5 silicon to Sony and MS, that is their high priority.
Navi48 supposedly being the -800/-700 tier GPUs means the team went through multiple design changes from what is normally supposed to be a Navi42 processor.

>>101115363
>Brandwhoring retard causing self-harm.

>>101114744
DESU I would rather have an Nvidia monopoly just to spite lying AMDelusionals

AMD clearly isn't moderating prices, no big loss as Linux hobbyists will continue to use their 7 year old RX 580s while they claim to gap the 5090 in AI performance.

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Corsair vengeance DDR5 32GB 6000CL30
Timings: 30-36-36-76
Silicon Power Value Gaming DDR5 32GB 6000CL30
Timings:30-38-38-96
Is the vengeance worth the extra $20 for gaming, does the difference much does this matter? And is silicon power reliable or should I avoid them? I'll also be pairing it with a 7800X3D

Was tinkering with my 4070ti super via the nvidia control panel I was watching a walkthrough of the best settings to have for max performance but after applying these settings, my PC will now blackscreen and the fans will go really fast as soon as I boot.

Is there a remedy for this? I can access my pc just fine by disconnecting the gpu and connecting to the motherboard.

I'm very new to pc building and just finished my build yesterday.


Thank you.

How close can I get to a Mac M-something power consumption wise with an APU only build?

>>101115562
enter safe mode and from there you can revert any driver settings or run ddu and reinstall your drivers.

its different for each motherboard, some have you mash f3 or f10 to access the boot options menu. read your motherboard manual or google it.

>>101104826
>amd unboxed going against amd
Hell froze over

>>101115479
Silicon Power and Corsair source the same chips from the same Mafia. The difference is in the warranty experience. Silicon Power sucks in that regard.

So, recently I did post a question about building a basic PC that supports upgrades in the near future, but no one answered. And that's okay, I'm not complaining.
Is it even feasible? Intel's socket is in EOL, so I guess it can be crossed out. Then we have AMD's. But AM5 being new makes things not very cheap. I actually can afford a 7800X3D and 4080 setup, but don't want to dish out all that cash right now.
Any advices? Thank you.

>>101115774
>WAHHH old platform are cheap but new platform are expensive WAHHH
are you really looking for a new platform but also as cheap as old ones? that shit doesn't exist. if you are concerned about the price i would just buy am4 or lga1700 and use it for next 5 years with no upgrade

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>>101104520
What's the cheapest tier B Psu in usd for Gtx 1070

>>101115898
Any 500w shitter can power a 1070

>>101115898
https://www.ebay.com/itm/156224246613

>>101115914
>>101115925
My budget is 40 usd ish
This gpu was an ex mining

>>101115954
Sort by $40 on Amazon or eBay and get anything 500w or more for something that doesn't sound like it eats dogs.

>>101113015
You don't need more RAM. Use the stock cooler on the 5600.

DeepCoolbros...

>>101115447
Imagine thinking buying Jewvidia or Poointel isn't the real self-harm, you literal retard.

>>101116048
>DeepCuck

>>101116048
deepcool is in deepshit

>>101115774
use shit until you are ready to build and dont build with shit
the amd retardation of cpu upgrade every gen is a poozen meme because they were all shit before x3d, although not a downside for long term upgrades
but since cpus are so overkill now u can survive on one for multiple gens with games being capped its fucking borderline useless, what is not useless is worrying about if your platform is shit or not though with problems

>>101113282
im sure there are plenty 144hz monitors good enough for pro use
but no

>>101116048
>was considered DOA because their fame came from leaking AIOs
>reputation restored and no longer considered DOA from leaks anymore
>Russia news out
>DOA again
should have listened to me first time, sirs

>>101115476
>Nvidia is in control of the GPU market! Take that, AMDelusionals!!
>Why won't AMD moderate GPU prices!!?? It's their responsibility, their fault that their GPU prices are so high!!!

You're so fucking jewish.

>switched from 120mm AIO to 240 AIO
>5800x non-3D cuck of a chip still hitting thermal throttle
>undervolts barely helps
>limit boost clocks barely help
>reseated with new paste, no improvement
Help bros..

>>101116192
>>Why won't AMD moderate GPU prices!!?? It's their responsibility
Yes, that's how a fucking market works. Prices can only go down if a party is actively participating to gain sales. AMD doesn't have anything going for them outside of slightly increased raster, if they refuse to actually improve where Nvidia is good at relatively, then the only option is to drop prices and actually drop prices. $50-100 off for similar perf clearly doesn't cut it.

AMD might as well have not existed the past few years and I'm still very much salty about that piece of shit R9 380 where I was told multiple times was "the drivers are fine"

>>101115392
rip amd , curry architecture will cause 10 trillion issues and a repeat of the bulldozer era mishaps

What parts should I get to build a good $1,000 pc? I'm looking to upgrade from a pre-built and start from scratch.

>>101116203
Take the plastic off the bottom of the cold plate. Also is the pump actually working? Also also: don't be retarded and mount the pump at the highest point in the loop.

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>>101116420
>Take the plastic off the bottom of the cold plate
Of course it's off, I've repasted it once too so I am 200% sure it's metal on paste on cpu ihs.
>pump
It's working. Confirmed RPM and noise changes if I fuck with high or low RPM
>pump highest point
It's an Fractal Lumen S24; The pump sits with the rad in a high point as "designed", hope it's okay as the instructions expects people to mount the rad up top.

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>>101114507
RDNA4 with no high end has been known for a while. The only hope was that RDNA4 would launch this year (not happening) and RDNA5 would launch one year later, spurring a decent RTX 50 Super refresh from Nvidia. If RTG doesn't compete in the high end for two years, and from that image (who knows if its real), even then RDNA 5 won't have a 6090 competitor

>nvidia prices the high end titan it is, meaning prices on the XXY02 SKUs go up
>this drags prices on the upper midrange up
>rtg and intel just try to feed off nvidia's pricing
The only remaining hope is that Nvidia, Intel, and RTG try to slug it out in the lower midrange

will my current rig
>AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
>MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX
>Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT PULSE
>Corsair TX550M, 550 Watt
>2x G.Skill 16 GB DDR4-3000
be able to handle a current gen gpu? I'm thinking a 7900 XT or XTX

>>101116068
You’re the dumb fuck that bought into the MCM GPU hype, there’s a reason NVIDIA’s been delaying its implementation for a very long time.
The only tangible benefit to consumer is cost savings, but these cards are still overpriced.

>>101116544
depends entirely on game. ram should be fine if you dont run anything in background. however you should make a decision if you want to buy am5 or skip entirely. if you want to skip am5 consider end of life cpu upgrade at some point. if you dont want to skip upgrading now or after next launch should make sense. psu is too weak

>>101116307
Or Nvidia could just not artificially inflate their prices. Who's putting the gun to their heads to do this? You're so fucking retarded.

>>101116728
>artificially inflate their prices
if they were artificially inflate nobody would buy them

>>101116508
> hope it's okay as the instructions expects people to mount the rad up top.
How have you got it mounted then? Front?

>>101104520
What's the strategy if I'm willing to wait 6 months (not one more) for a new PC with Intel+Nvidia?

>>101116742
Watch me not buy them then, retard. If you agree that their prices are artificially inflated and buy them anyway (while doing mental gymnastics to justify it) then you're buckbroken. I will be the start of the wave of people not buying Nvidia. I will not eat the bugs. I will not live in the fucking pod.

>>101116659
I'll probably buy a 6X00 or something in the meantime while waiting. I'm also willing to wait for an entirely new GPU manufacturer if the MCM GPU doesn't deliver before buying Jewvidia or Poointel.

>>101116756
5090 should be released in the next 6 months, 5080 will probably be released in 6 months. no chance for lower end
>>101116787
then dont buy, lmao, its your money. but i have proposal anon, sell me your entire rig for $20.
...
wait, you don't want to? stop being fucking kike and artificially inflate prices

>>101116787
>I will be the start of the wave of people not buying Nvidia
lol no you won't. You'll keep bitching and pay up anyway.

>>101116710
alrite new rig it is then
wanted to get a different case anyway this will make it easier

>>101116728
Gamers value GeForce chips more than you give credit for, NVIDIA has no reason to leave money on the table.
We had people here claiming an $800 4070 Ti 12GB being the best price/performance card last year.
NVIDIA has every right to take these people’s money, just like how AMD convinced people to pay over $1000 for the 7900XTX.

Intel’s Alchemist is too shit to profit off of.

>>101116821
It's not for sale, goylem, just like my self-respect. Lol, did you really think you were being smart?

>>101116822
Okay, buck.

>>101116787
Oh no guys, NVIDIA’s not going to get this man child’s $300.
Even your local grocery store doesn’t give a shit about losing your business.

>>101116857
fucking kike hoarding all these components. you don't want to sell? i dont give a shit you are still a kike

>>101116874
The price is never low enough for these animals.
That’s why Radeon decided not to start a price war.

>>101116841
>NVIDIA has no reason
Then be the reason. Or don't. Just don't try to justify how you're not actually a slave.

>>101116863
Cope

>>101116874
I don't remember you asking for my consent to post on this imageboard - when are you going to pay me back, goy?

>>101116957
You’re the one coping because you’ve been priced out of the GeForce cards worth buying.
All three companies will always charge aa much as they can. It’s a for-profit business.

>>101116979
Assumptions. I will continue to play on my 1060 6GB. I have been waiting for next-gen GPUs for 444 days and I will continue to wait.

>>101117032
AKA priced out and coping with his 1060 in 2024.
There’s plenty of discounted cards that deliver well over 2x performance of your existing crap.

>consoles struggle to render at 60fps at anything over 1080p
>4k is literally cinema fps mode
so a 1080p120hz is all you need for consoles is it?

>>101117053
If none of the next-gen GPU selections meet my standards, I will probably upgrade to a 6X00. In the meantime, I can look myself in the mirror and I am enjoying myself. Can you say the same?

>>101116957
>I don't remember you asking for my consent to post on this imageboard
Another day, another commie radeontard completely lacks an understanding of concept of ownership

>>101117138
None of the card manufacturers give a shit about the standards of someone who’s still holding onto a 1060 6GB.
Quit trying to frame a gaming GPU’s pricing as a societal issue, it’s a nonessential, arguably a luxury product. You look like a clown.

>7500f (170 USD) for 50 bucks less than a 7600 (220 USD) in my country
The 7500f would be the straight up smarter buy in this scenario no?

>>101117182
He’s not even a Radeon tard, he’s a poorfag 1060 owner hoping NVIDIA sells cheaper cards because he refuses to buy an RX 6800 or a 7900 GRE.

>>101117182
All of the Earth's oxygen is my oxygen, commie.

>>101117223
>societal issue
Lmao, I'm talking about being able to look yourself in the mirror and enjoying yourself. Can you, with a straight face, while looking yourself in the mirror, say, "I buy Nvidia and I am free and happy". I don't give a fuck about society; I give a fuck about YOU!

>>101117326
I don’t make a big deal out of a video card purchase like you treat it as the decision of your decade.
I buy one that will last me at least four to five years and move on.
NVIDIA’s entitled to their premium because no one else offers a like for like alternative.

Just look at you, you’d rather hold onto a 1060 instead of buying a 6800 or a GRE that’s about 3x to 4x better.
You’re part of the problem because NVIDIA gets your money anyway.

>>101117326
... anon, do you really deriver your sense of worth based on whenever you bough product of some company or not?

>>101117236
yep

>>101117433
He’s one of thousands of waitfags that’ll eventually buy GeForce cards.
Best part is GeForce revenues
continue to grow without any sales from these guys.
They’re totally showing NVIDIA.

>>101117408
Uh huh. If that's what you're happy with. And I'm happy never buying Jewvidia or Poointel. You're the one making a big deal out of having to justify your purchase, like you have "no choice".

>>101117433
No, goy, I derive it from always having a choice.

>>101117547
>And I'm happy never buying Jewvidia or Poointel.
>t. 1060 owner, didn’t buy discounted 6800 or the GRE
Coping poorfag confirmed

>>101117538
>Why are you making such a big deal out of nothing?!
>*Tries to tell everyone who'll listen Nvidia will end up the winner anyways*
You need a big white screen for that projector, buddy?

Is this some 4d nvidia marketing or are you lot just this retarded?

>>101117081
nvm I checked it again even frame rate modes are rendeded higher than 1080p

Call me crazy but I believe the RTX 4090 is today's 1080 Ti

>>101117594
>>101117625
At least fund the competitor’s R&D if you kids are going to bitch and moan about the status quo.
Holding onto a GTX 1060 in mid 2024 says it all.

>>101117652
I'm going to wait for next-gen to release and if it's not good enough, I'll probably buy a 6X00 in the meantime. This is the third time I've said this.

>>101117742
And you’re part of the reason why NVIDIA can charge a premium for their GeForce cards.
You’re unwilling to buy an RX6800 (3x raster) or the 7900GRE (4x) you’ve decided your cash + 1060 is worth more.
Stop acting like you’re not part of the problem.

>>101117824
Need a hand with that goalpost? If I buy a 6800 now, will that improve AMD's "R&D" of their next-gen GPUs? If I buy it now instead of after they release their next-gen GPUs, what does that change? Why do you keep conflating
>I won't buy an 6800 right now
with
>My cash+1060 is worth more than a 6800

What the fuck are you talking about?

>>101117642
nah, the fps appetite is ever-growing. it's no longer about playable framerate of 1080p with 30/60fps. it will grow to 4k@1000fps faster than gpu manufactures will be able to deliver

>>101117889
What the fuck are you waiting for? RDNA2 production to halt? RX6800 is produced in limited quantities as they’re meant to sell defective Navi21s.
Yields aren’t an issue at this point for 7nm chip production.

You’ve already decided the Radeon cards on the market isn’t worth paying, that’s why you’re still waitfagging with the GTX 1060.

>>101116750
Up top

>decide to finally get angled cable (CABLE, NOT ADAPTER. READ RETARD) for my 4090 because my case is on the smaller side
>voltages are much higher
>cable itself is cooler
>no longer have to bend cable
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>>101117955
for reference
i have a "benchmark" that i've created to test the consistency of my temps/voltages
in this same area, i would drop down to 11.7v with the corsair premium sleeved cable. temps would reach 45c on the cable (t_sensor1)

>>101117937
For the next-gen GPUs to release. Because if they satisfy me, then I'll buy it, which would make buying a 6800 overwhelmingly redundant. Why did you think I'm waiting for next-gen GPUs to release? Why do you keep conveniently missing this statement even though I've repeated it several times? Do you need a therapist?

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>>101117996
oops wrong image

>>101104520
>Arctic P12/P14 Max
why max over regular? doesnt the AIOs ship with the regular ones as well.

>>101117999
Your inaction proves the current batch of Radeon cards aren’t worth buying, hence why NVIDIA can charge a premium on GeForce cards.
Look how you won’t even consider RDNA3 cards.
You are part of the problem, don’t act like you’re not.

>>101118045
Because the Max attempted to minimize their famous grinding/humming noise.
It’s present in all Arctic fans, it’s a material issue that can’t be addressed without raising the MSRP.

>>101118045
max is the new design

>>101113037
yet you didnt paint your asus card the same colors, shame

>>101117999
anon... how poor are you? because for most people it's simple matter of if you are happy with your current card
yes) no need to upgrade
no) decide on what to buy based on needs and bang per buck
brooding so much over gpus is retarded

Do I "need" a contact frame for Intel?

>>101118048
So according to you, am I supposed to buy a 6800 now and then buy a 8800 ~half a year later?

>>101118195
I'm not the one brooding. I'm happy with my choice right now. You should ask the person I'm responding to take your advice.

>>101118209
the bending shit is really only a problem if you use an AIO and even then nah, don't bother worrying unless your temps are bad and you've made sure there are no other issues.

>>101118242
so why are "waiting"? why is purchase of gpu on your mind at all?

>anon says they won't buy nvidia
>the shills crawl out of the woodwork and go full panic mode
On a sunday? Gotta be doing it for free

>>101118276
it is human nature towant to correct someone's error. buying an amd card at this point is like throwing away your money.

>>101118217
Notice how you’re not even considering RDNA3 cards?
If Radeon’s not selling compelling products at reasonable prices, NVIDIA’s going to push the pricing limits as they’ve found out with the $1200 4080.

>>101118276
More like dumb ass retard says he’s waiting for the next MCM GPU without having a clue about end user benefits like the bitch he is.

>>101112572
I was thinking of going with
5800X3D
RTX4060
along with the RAM upgrade.
New monitors are currently outside my budget.

Did I do good or will there be a bottleneck somewhere?

>>101118242
You’re so happy you can’t afford good GeForce cards anymore.

>>101118327
i would go with amd gpu in this price bracket. 8gb bad. unless you really need one of nvidia features

>>101118385
>>101118385
>>101118385

why are you amd niggas such cultists anyway? i'm using a 12700k and will be switching to amd cpus next gen unless arrow lake is good (and it doesn't look like it will be).

buying an amd card is actually just very stupid right now

>>101118264
I'm happy with waiting because buying a current-gen GPU right now would not make me happy. Buying a 6800 would make me happy, but my happiness from doing so would diminish if I end up buying an 8800 or whatever.

>>101118290
Yea, and? I hate Jewvidia and Poointel, that doesn't mean I love AMD.

Jewvidia cannot be in control of the GPU market while AMD is at the same time responsible for how Jewvidia prices their products. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. To clarify, you have no fucking idea what Nvidia would do if AMD did price their products "reasonably". There's even room to doubt Nvidia would actually lower their prices in response to whatever AMD did.

>>101118209
Unless you are going for an i7/i9 on air, no you don't "need" it.Even then, they are only $8 and knock a few degrees off your system:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYU1OskbY-Q
https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-LGA1700-BCF-V2-Corrective-LGA1700/dp/B0CS8WQYZW

>>101118410
so... purchase of gpu is what makes you happy? not playing games or using this gpu for anything useful? purchasing things makes you happy?