WHY IS EVERYTHING STILL SO EXPENSIVE

>>101118407
but actually why are you guys so retarded

>>101118472
Because I want to feel like I'm part of a team.

>like the style of nividia's Founders editions
>dislike muh gaming aesthetic
>find out about Asus ProArt series
are there any other sub brands with clean design?

>>101118505
ProArt and FE run a bit hot and loud.
There’s a cost to sleeker, more compact form factor.

>>101118505
FE cards don't have a gamer aesthetic at all. WHat are you talking about son?

>>101118502
that is unironically sad

>>101118472
bro shut the fuck up about nvidia already it literally doesnt work on linux unless you use some snowflake bullshit thats not compatible with rest of shit except AI cuda.

>>101118505
It’s mostly bitter, poor people complaining of being priced out of their hobby.

Imagine building a gaming PC and then ruining it by installing shader comp stutter kernel.

Don't buy Nvidia GPU they have driver issues with no fix just "workarounds" like disable hw acceleration which is not a fix it destroys your performance and causes crashes

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5157/~/after-updating-to-nvidia-game-ready-driver-461.09-or-newer%2C-some-desktop-apps

>>101118622
>3 years and 200 driver versions ago
you have to try harder

don't buy nvidia they're branded green and green is an ugly colour for computers

>>101118622
Stfu, you can find the same problems in AMD's forums.

the only reason i would avoid nvidia is if you use multiple high refreshrate 4k monitors and hate DSC black screens

>>101118635
>461.09 or newer
still no fix

>>101118704
retard amd has working hw acceleration. nvidia is broken. everyone keeps telling you on reddit and forums to disable hw acceleration fix shit on nvidia in 2024.

>>101118734
it's not an nvidia (or amd) problem to fix. the issue is MPO.

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>>101118734
>retard amd has working hw acceleration. nvidia is broken. everyone keeps telling you on reddit and forums to disable hw acceleration fix shit on nvidia in 2024.
Like I said, stfu.

>>101118580
lmao literally, letter by letter, typing this message with my machine running rtx 3060 on mint, just install the recommended proprietary driver from mints driver manager, done. everything works perfectly. owned, bitch. FUCK YOU! RETARD!

>>101118720
>fictional scenarios
yeah okay

>>101118622
> In this chan: people who are too stupid to do a clean driver install.

>>101118438
Why are you still so poor?
Just sell some of your NVDA stocks if you need chash.

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>>101118849
It's true. I have the following configuration:

1x 4k 144hz connected via HDMI 2.1
1x 4k 144hz connected via DP 1.4
1x 1440p 170hz connected to iGPU DP 1.2
1x 4k 240hz connected via DP 1.4 (currently off so it's now showing in my screenshot)

Alt tabbing in games will cause the screens to briefly go black. This is well documented and due to display stream compression (DSC). To my knowledge, AMD doesn't have this problem. Nvidia fixed it in one driver (545.48) and then removed this fix for whatever reason.

>>101118896
Should've bought a real display that supports UHBR80 instead of blaming nvidia for what is a monitor problem.

>>101118438
Buy older, discounted, core components.
You don’t need a DDR5 PC. You don’t need RDNA3 card if you’re value hunting.

>>101118936
I won't even dignify this with a real reply. Here's your (You) you so desperately want, though.

It there an HDR monitor out there that doesn't have disgusting artifacts when colors contrast too much in motion?

>>101118981
Yeah - any of the oled ones.

Core Ultra 7 265K + RTX 5080

>>101118538
As if most people have a noise floor quiet enough to notice a difference
I have a 4080s FE and I believe there is mental issues associated for whomever thinks that card is loud.

GPUs have been effectively slient since my 1080 ti SC2

What would be the best 2TB SATA SSD (non M.2) to get in 2024?

>>101118981
HDR monitors are an actual meme it's only good for TVs

>>101118770
hags is not angle hw accel you stupid cunt.

>>101118759
it is nvidia issue when eveyone tells you to disable hw acceleration in chrome.

>>101119153
i feel sorry for your parents

>>101119153
>he uses chrome

>>101119078
Your standards do not apply to everyone else’s, the FE is on the bottom half of 4080 reviewed by TechPowerUp according to noise levels.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/gainward-geforce-rtx-4080-phoenix-gs/36.html

Since i cannot play Elden Ring DLC without getting FPS drops i finally want to get a new PC, so far i have this:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Storage: 2x Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card: PNY XLR8 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X RGB OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/user/codepuppet/saved/tBNH4D

Still looking for a good Power Supply and Case, I would prever mATX Size, can anyone rate my build and give recommendations?

Thanks!

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why is rtx 4060 performance increase so shit compared to 3060?

>>101119185
Do you care because if the number lower rat race or because you're in an anechoic chamber and the few db's actually make a difference?

>>101119253
Because NVIDIA can get away with it, the RX 7600 is just as bad and Arc Battlemage is MIA.
It’s stupid from a business perspective to provide more performance if the product will sell as-is, it just raises the performance requirement of the next generation SKUs.

That’s why RTX 20 series cards were widely panned, so NVIDIA decided to not repeat the generational gains Pascal brought over Maxwell.

Not cheering this behavior, simply explaining the logic behind it.

>>101119263
Your ears can’t even tell the noise generated by a 1080Ti dual fan card under load (37dBA).
That level of noise is objectively perceptible.
You’re disqualified from this discussion.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-gtx-1080-ti-gaming-x-trio/34.html

>>101119233
>Nvidia Windows shader stutter
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

>>101119263
>the few db's actually make a difference?
10dB difference can potentially double the noise generated.
We get it, you have dull hearing and don’t value fan noise. That’s you.

Best thermal paste for 7800 x3d?

>>101119481
PTM7950 is better than paste.
If you must use paste get MX-6.

>>101119481
The stuff that comes with your cooler because that CPU sips power. If you're reusing a cooler then go with >>101119497's reccs.

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Anyone good at reading SMART values?
My 870 EVO just.. vanished yesterday after a reboot. Not even the BIOS could find it anymore. I thought it died but it reappeared just now.
I already ordered a new SSD cause I thought it was a goner.
You think I should throw it in the trash?

Are AMD GPUs worth considering? Specifically the 7900 GRE? I'm looking to game at 4K for single player titles mostly around 75fps on high settings, 4K medium or so for 144fps online shooters etc.

>>101119353
Yeah they sure can't, when your when wearing headphones any playing doom lol

>>101119392
I do value fan noise, but at the same time there is a certain threshold where quieter doesn't matter and I doubt many people have such a quiet environment where the differences in GPUs make a practical difference.
It's like the rat race in tools, red tool makes 50 more ft lbs than yellow when both will obliterate any fastener, at that point your bikeshedding

>>101119253
because rtx 3060 is the best card ever and all you really need :)

>>101119809
GPU manufacturers are willing to spend extra development and production cost to sell quieter cards because there’s a market worth catering.
Else everyone would make the thinnest dual fan cards with the cheapest fans.
More options is good and disclosing them helps potential buyers make more informed decisions.
Now fuck off with your dull hearing.

>>101119801
>Are AMD GPUs worth considering?
it depends on your budget, the prices of the cards in your area and what you want to do with them.

AMD GPUs are basically feature-less but with great raw rasterization performance resulting in better price/performance than Nvidia GPUs.
they suck tremendously with RT compared to RTX cards, so you have to figure out for yourself whether you'll be playing games with Ray Tracing or not.

VRAM is a bit of a non-issue at 1440, so if prices are within reason (50-60$), I will always pick the equivalent RTX card.

>>101119801
GRE is breddy gud

Hope Arrow Lake gets a much improved IMC and let's it hit a 7200MT sweet spot over the current 6400MT

>>101119801
The GRE is a good GPU but 4k75 without upscaling might be asking too much. If you're okay with upscaling then prefer Nvidia since their algorithm is superior. If not, and if it's the best you can afford, by all means get the GRE. Just understand that you will need to tune some settings to achieve that framerate.

>>101119913
>>101119921
>>101119939
I was just considering the 7900GRE because of price but if it doesn't really include any of the cool features Nvidia does, then fuck it. It appears that to get solid 4K experience out of a comparable Nvidia GPU, I am in the neighborhood of the RTX 4080 Super which is kind of in the neighborhood of the RTX 4090. Is the 4090 truly worth $650 or more than the 4080 Super? When I post my build you'll all see that I'm not above wasting money on stupid shit for the sake of appearance. I just don't want to find I spent $700+ extra for like 2% performance increase.

>deepcool banned
Lol microcenter can y’all stock some thermalrights now you fucking shitstains

>>101120006
nevermind. I found a video comparing the 4080 to the 4080 super to the 4090 and it seems the 4090 walks the 4080 Super in a decent amount of titles by enough for it to matter.

>>101119801
You should wait for FSR3 upscaling updates before you commit to the GRE, you will need it when it’s available for 4K gaming.
Right now, the FSR upscaler isn’t good enough.
Sony decided to create their own hardware accelerated upscaler for the PS5 Pro instead of relying on FSR.

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blackwell will be shit won't it?

>>101118083
>>101118092
so is it worth spending the extra tenner for the 5-pack MAX fans? i'm bit skeptical if they actually will offer anything over the regular ones especially if i'm going to have the system in relatively low power mode most of the time. would there happen to be a proper comparison of the two out there?

>>101119876
>GPU manufacturers are willing to spend extra development
They make heatsink bigger, add an extra fan and sometimes charge more. They aren't putting much effort
>because there’s a market worth catering
It's more because it's the only thing they can change as literal middlemen. Bins are so marginal they have to make you excited about a few decibels
>Now fuck off with your dull hearing.
I bet you don't even know your noise floor, I bet your walls don't even have sound dampening, it's probably noisy as hell in your pod in Taipei.

>>101120054
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpSO_Mpu9Eg

>>101120054
Then buy the regular five pack, it’s that simple.
You won’t find good comparisons because the original P12 Max black fans used ball bearings that made an awful noise.
https://youtu.be/KQDJBl32QZ0

Arctic had to retool the bearings to fluid dynamic, make sure the Max you buy advertised fluid dynamic bearings.

>>101120077
Whoops forgot to get the link with the time stamp for the feature comparison
Starts at 1:15

>>101119497
the ptm is a pad, isn't it? How do you apply it to x3d considering the retarded shape of it? Do you like, cut out gaps or is it fine to just cover it fully?

>>101120006
Going all the way to a 4090 is "worth it" in the sense that, if you can afford a $1000 video card, your butler won't even raise an eyebrow over buying a $1700 one.
I'm actually somewhat unsure why you're asking the question - if you have 4090 money then nothing else really compares. The only caveat would be that the 5090 is coming out some time this year so maybe buying nothing is the play. Needless to say either one of them is overkill for 4k75.

>>101120006
the 4080S is largely good enough for 4k75, but if you can afford the 4090 there's not much point considering anything else.
I assume money is not really an issue for you but I do suggest you think twice about your actual needs (what games you play, how much will you them etc) before buying, jerk off before ordering if you need

>>101120076
The manufacturers put enough effort to convince buyers to consider their card over the FE if availability isn’t an issue.
Their cards have to be either cooler, quieter, or OC higher.
Every reputable video card reviewer has an operating temperature & noise section because it’s a legitimate buying consideration for some viewers.
Obviously not for you.

>>101120129
The "leg" things aren't doing much conduction. Cut it somewhere in between fully covering them and covering the "inner" square.

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I'm running an MSI Z690 board with a 2 year old BIOS, and I want to update it. Is there a way to save the BIOS settings into a profile and then reimport them into the newer BIOS after the update?`I haven't touched the settings since I initially set it up don't want to be assed to set up everything again by hand.

>>101120176
>because it’s a legitimate buying consideration for some viewers.
Was it because they were told to care? or because they actually had issues with GPUs at certain decibel levels?

>>101120179
There should be an option to save your settings to USB inside your BIOS
But I've run into situations (on the AMD side) where settings from one version couldn't be imported after updating. Never figured out why but possibly some settings were removed or too many changes happened that make settings incompatible
This could be the case for you if you're two years between updates

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>>101119801
You would have to be retarded to consider a Radeon graphics card unless you're an ultra poorfag. You'll need reconstruction in every new game; DLSS is great, and FSR is garbage. The 4070 Super is fine as a budget card, but the entry to 4K is really the 4070 Ti Super. You'll reliably be able to use DLSS Quality at 4K, whereas the 4070 non-Ti Super is more like a DLSS Balanced at 4K card

>>101120143
you don't remember the situation with graphic cards above xx80 and how retarded one had to be to buy one. what was it? 3-5% for hefty premium?

>>101120216
The video card’s fans makes the loudest noise in a gaming system under high 3D rendering loads.
Reviewers and owners make it very clear when they end up with a loud card because it matters, no matter how much your disabled hearing tries to downplay the issue.
There’s a reason why manufacturers go out of their way to sell models with dual BIOS fan curves.

>>101120143
>if you have 4090 money then nothing else really compares.
I come from the era of when the model just below the absolute top shelf was better than the top shelf. I.e. the 780Ti would out perform the Titan but just have less VRAM and cost only 60% of the Titan. With the money saved you could just get a extremely capable model of 780Ti instead. Now it appears that the top end is truly just that, it's not just an inflated price tag for the sake of the price tag like it used to be. I added a Gigabyte Auros master 4090 to my build to match the motherboard. Last question would be whether or no the AMD 7800X3D would hold back a 4090? Is an AMD CPU even a good idea at all? Are their CPU's like their GPU's in the sense that they're all good at brute forcing but lack any of the cool shit that Nvidia/Intel brings?

Excuse my question but I've been using pre-builts and office provided PC's since forever and the last PC I actually built was a Frankenstein's monster of an Intel i7-2600k and 2x EVGA GTX 580 3GB variants in SLI.
>>101120168
>jerk off before ordering if you need
Done and done. The games I'm playing are far ranging but right now a lot of them are quite single player intensive. Titles like the newest Metro that I bought and haven't played yet because it's too graphically heavy for my current PC. Elden Ring with all the eye candy turned on, Horizon Zero Dawn, etc. I don't want to have to make too many concessions to play my games at 4K for single player stuff. Multiplayer is whatever

>>101120274
>Titles like the newest Metro that I bought and haven't played yet because it's too graphically heavy for my current PC.
If you're playing games like the newest Metro, it means you'll be playing with ray tracing and that all but means you should get an RTX card
Radeon drops its fucking spaghetti when any intense ray tracing is enabled (i.e. more than just shadows and reflections)

>>101120263
>because it matters
Yeah, because if they don't rave about the relative performance of hardware, no matter how meaningful or unmeaningful it is, they just won't get hardware samples next time

>>101120274
>Last question would be whether or no the AMD 7800X3D would hold back a 4090?
sometimes yeah, games are weird nowadays, shit optimization and different bottlenecks. but there's no better option
>Is an AMD CPU even a good idea at all?
cpus don't really have any worthwhile features

>>101120253
Yeah I get it. I just assumed you had read some benchmarks and understood that was not the case this gen.

>whether or no the AMD 7800X3D would hold back a 4090?
Definitely not. It's almost always the #1 performer even in contrived benchmark scenarios. At 4k your CPU matters less so you could even get away with something cheaper if you had to. Don't get me wrong, Intel CPUs are good too, especially if you need some multicore for work, but the 7800X3D+4090 is the current "best" gaming combo.

>>101120348
More like reviewers want their content visitors to make informed decisions, like avoid paying $750 for a noisy 1080 Ti SC2.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/evga-gtx-1080-ti-sc2/36.html

>>101120340
yeah I decided I'll be going with the 4090. Just trying to figure out if I'm going with AMD or Intel CPU at this point.
>>101120359
so if budget wasn't an issue, would you got the 7800X3D or the 14900k?

>>101120378
>More like reviewers want their content visitors to make informed decision
As long as they get samples, they aren't partial
> like avoid paying $750 for a noisy 1080 Ti SC2.
SC2 was $659

>>101120230
>There should be an option to save your settings to USB inside your BIOS
will check before updating BIOS
thanks!

>>101120422
1080 Ti popularized the fan deshroud mods btw, people care about running a quieter system no matter how much you’re coping against it.
https://youtu.be/K-9k5cRbrPU

>>101120274
>Now it appears that the top end is truly just that, it's not just an inflated price tag for the sake of the price tag like it used to be
3090 wasn't that much better than a 3080 other than the huge increase in VRAM, but the 4090 really is head and shoulders above a 4080. In terms of hardware it has like 50% extra everything, the difference is large.

>whether or no the AMD 7800X3D would hold back a 4090?
No, 7800X3D is pretty much the best you can get as far as gaming is concerned.

>>101120419
for primary games? 7800x3d no questions, it has way more cache than intel and uses less power. games like cache, some even fit entirely within it and dont use ram. there could be maybe some point for intel in case of doing primary productivity, but i would still stick with amd - no cooling hassle

>>101120077
>>101120099
guess i'll buckle up and just get the MAX, it says on the stores site that they're FDB. my autism triggers cause the fans on the arctic aio i have waiting for the rest of the parts has the regular fans. does that just mean i have to adjust fan curves bit differently and that's that?

>>101120471
>>101120486
awesome. Then this is my build. I know there is a bunch of money being spent on stuff solely for their looks and I'm OK with that. Just any thing raise any red flags? I also made sure to get a PSU that has a PCIe 16 pin. Looks like GPUs have a new sort of plug that you can use adapter for but I don't like adapters.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wMJnfy

>>101120274
7800X3D isn't going to hold back a 4090 but I'd get a 14900k if you're going for a top tier PC

>>101120470
>1080 Ti popularized the fan deshroud mods btw
Trying to rewrite history are we?
>no matter how much you’re coping against it.
Says the person trying to cope against the fact AIBs are doing their damndest to keep you in the plantation.

>>101120551
any particular reason why? Others ITT are saying the 7800X3D is better for gaming.

>>101120549
I don't see any mistakes other than "spending four grand on a computer" but it's your money so whatever. Thing's a monster.

>>101120578
Do a quick search about loud 1080 Ti and deshroud mods.
AIBs gave NIVIDIA the manufacturing capacity and shelf space dominance GeForce cards enjoy.

Imagine encouraging more limited product selection because his disabled ears don’t value quieter systems.
We ended up with quieter cards because a significant number of consumers demanded them.

>>101120637
>I don't see any mistakes other than "spending four grand on a computer"
I recently dropped just as much on parts for my project car so I've spent some seriously stupid money on even stupider shit before. Part and parcel of being single with a good paying job. OK so good to know the PC is good.

>>101120129
PTM is also in paste form but it's a lot more expensive. It's usually in a pad. You cut it so it covers the CCD and SOC.

>>101118720
full 48gbps hdmi 2.1 ports if all you need for 144hz 4k no dsc needed
you top out at 2 dsc 4k monitors anyway, can't run more
>>101118896
I feel things like these will slowly wear on your psyche until you snap.. like yter graphically challanged

>>101120178
can't I just cover it in full? Or is it gonna get melted and then spill over or something?>>101120702
I'm very illiterate in the tech speak, not sure where you mean, so I'll just assume you're telling me to cover as much of it as possible in the middle square

wtf some niggas out there still chasing 1080ti s!!? is this some nostalgia value or what

>>101120586
>Others ITT are saying the 7800X3D is better for gaming
poorfag cope, but also yeah the 7800X3D is already very good. 14900k pushes just a tad further but requires a lot more power and cooling, but manageable

>>101118598
>installing shader comp stutter kernel

is this a dab on Linux or NVIDIA?

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>>101120776
Cut it to this size (orange rectangle). It won't hurt to go larger but it's expensive and, yeah, you don't want to be fishing it out if you ever need to remove the cooler.
Also, just to reiterate, there's absolutely no need to run PCM on a 7800X3D. The thing pulls <50W while gaming and can't be overclocked. If you're buying a new cooler then increasing the budget by $20, or what you'd pay for PTM, would get you better cooling 99% of the time.

>>101120675
>Do a quick search about loud 1080 Ti and deshroud mods.
You can find anything if you search for it specifically
>AIBs gave NIVIDIA the manufacturing capacity and shelf space dominance GeForce cards enjoy.
And they have outlived their usefulness
>We ended up with quieter cards because a significant number of consumers demanded them.
You ended up with quieter cards because blowers were objectively loud. Now that FE cards are as quiet as they are, it seems so pathetic to bother with cards that are larger, potentially cost more and come from objectively horrible companies of which all AIBs are. If I wanted a 25db card, I can just waterblock of which NV lets me do and would cost me less than what MSI would charge for a Suprim X

>>101120776
>so I'll just assume you're telling me to cover as much of it as possible in the middle square
yes. it dont matter if it spill anyways because its non conductive and it solidifies at colder temp for easy picking.

>>101120960
Had to bring up waterblocking an FE to compare against air cooled AIB cards.
There’s plenty of FE RMA horror stories as well.
No matter your standards, it’s good to have a variety of card models to choose from (size, noise, cooling capacity, power limits, binning, etc.)
I accept your concession.

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>signal rgb, armory crate, and windows dynamic lighting can work together
holy shit maybe there is a god

Anyone here knows the difference between VCG409024TFXXPB1-O and VCG409024TFXXPB1

>>101121026
disable all the rgb shit before its too late, keep your pecker in tact or else you wont go to heaven

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any idea of what this thing is ? is not a waterblock is it?

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>>101121049
can it fag, i like my effects

>>101121008
>Had to bring up waterblocking an FE to compare against air cooled AIB cards.
Because I would rather do that than give a dime to an AIB anymore and I see bike shedding about noise to just be a way to keep money flowing to AIBs. After I got my FE I gave up on the idea because it's actually good enough.
>There’s plenty of FE RMA horror stories as well.
Still a better record than Anus
>I accept your concession.
You will forever be a paypiggy to garbo companies

>>101120586
You can look up benchmarks yourself. The 14900K is fairly consistently a couple % behind the 7800X3D. That's in the aggregate though - choosing one or the other for specific games is fair. It's also at deliberately CPU-bound "review settings". When you play at max the CPU won't be working as hard because the card is the limiting factor.
What the 14900K does have going for it is a lot more multicore performance. If you need that for work then go for it or consider the 7950X(3D) if you don't want to cool 300W.

>>101121100
This kid’s still seething about his FE, it obviously bothers him.

>>101121044
I wasted my time to check and the difference is a 40mhz overclock. LMAO

>>101121071
Flow guide for rackmount cooling?

>>101118385
> Intel COPE i9
kek

>>101121130
I knew it had to do with overclock but I couldn't find any numbers, damn 40mhz lol

>>101120951
>>101120961
Hmm, I think I'll just pay 20$ more and just buy a new tower cooler instead of hoping that the thermal pad can cool off the cpu(already got burned by buying overpriced thermal grizzly paste). Thanks a ton though

>>101121126
I love my FE
Your just bothered because I'm calling out the market as just one big elaborate ruse.

>>101121214
What cooler do you have?

>>101121218
umm efficiency bros this goes against our narrative

>>101121227
The one I have right now is be quiet pure rock 2. Was gonna order peerless assassin cause it's cheap

>>101121215
Yeah you’re bothered, because the FE objectively runs hotter and louder.
The heatsink can’t even handle a 2900MHz OC without adjusting the fan curves.
That’s with a 4080 Super FE at 355W, the 4090 has no chance of sustaining those clocks within reasonable noise levels.

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Thank you lisa. the force is female

>>101121245
not a single black woman. DEI bros can we cancel them?

>>101121218
Not news, it’s why the XTX post respectable 3DMark scores with those (X)OC BIOS.

>>101121237
Yeah that's sensible. PA120 with stock paste > PR2 with PCM. Worth checking the updated version, the Phantom Spirit 120, as well since it's often the same price.

>>101121245
>Guys why can't AMD win?

Do you think the NH-D15-G2 can cool a 14900k? Actually do you think Arrow Lake will run cooler? It's a 3nm process so it kind of has to.

amd won

amd won 3rd place

>>101121260
>Phantom Spirit 120
Is a bit more expensive and longer wait. Is it much better?

>>101121283
No, and no. They said it’s about a 3C improvement.

>>101121320
Not really. Like I'd pay maybe $1-2 more but I wouldn't bother if it's on back order.

>>101121338
Aight, thanks. Costs like 7$ more and have to wait an additional day. So I'll just stick to the PA 120 SE

>>101121242
>Yeah you’re bothered
Your the only one bothered here trying to convince me AIBs are just so great and wonderful, yes pay hundreds of dollars for marginal cooling improvements. As if it was always this way. Forget the times when $30 did legitimately get you a much nicer cooler from an AIB compared to FE.
>The heatsink can’t even handle a 2900MHz OC without adjusting the fan curves.
OCing is dead if you care about the integrity of your hardware to actually use it, no matter how much VRM or colling you toss at it. Another reason AIBs are useless.

>>101121358
>colling
Were you shaking in rage?
Just because you’re content with the limitations of the FE doesn’t mean everyone else should have to settle with it.
That’s the beauty of a free market, manufacturers are incentivized to provide genuine alternatives with different strengths and weaknesses.

>>101121426
>Were you shaking in rage?
Nah excitement
I just love opportunities to fuck with retards trust in these scummy companies, glad people like GN are finally giving them shit

Continue paying into them if you want. As more shit comes out, you're just going to be laughed at. I'm eternally glad Nvidia gave a choice to get us away from these shitheads, including EVGA who didn't have stellar hardware. The fact the 4090 FE is constantly sold out speaks miles

>>101121713
You realize NVIDIA is the one setting the high price floors, and the FE 4090 is the only card sold at $1600.
Meaning the AIB cards are selling just fine at above MSRP, even basic bitch tier cards like the PNY Verto.

>>101121749
>You realize NVIDIA is the one setting the high price floors
Yep and if AIBs can't complete in price or service then fuck them. If AIBs have to charge so much more for cooling upgrades, then fuck them they can perish, in no universe is whatever extra they add actually cost a tenth of what they charge for the privilege.

Want better cooling?, get your fingers dirty lol. Clearly if your so invested in some decibels you shouldn't mind swapping a cooler. Want to OC so bad then get a power board and learn to solder to a power plane

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>>101121907
I wonder why AIBs need to charge a premium for better models.
Imagine cheerleading this state of affairs.

>>101121929
>Imagine cheerleading this state of affairs.
Imagine cheerleading for the right for AIBs to rip people off
It will forever be a mystery on why today's builders suck off these companies so hard. Used to be every single one was on a tight lease, knowing they could be replaced any time.
Now that they got their hoard that will never whisper a bad syllable about them, they are extremely uppity for island chinks

>>101121979
>It will forever be a mystery on why today's builders suck off these companies so hard.
Says the basic bitch FE buyer. Lmao.

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>>101119078
>I have a 4080s FE and I believe there is mental issues associated for whomever thinks that card is loud.
>'Fan seems louder than necessary'
Cope on.

>>101122001
Nvidia gave me the card for the right price, is reasonably quiet and, I trust them over any of the other retards.
Simple as

If AIBs can't get this right, they have zero use for me and the countless others that buy FE cards

Is the 4060 the equivalent of something like the GTX970 from yesteryear in terms of pricing and performance level?

there should be a tier list of gpus that use PTM7950 from the factory. those gpus are the coolest and quietest. if you're buying $600+ for a gpu it should come included. we know XFX is switching to PTM so they are on the list.

>>101122080
4060 is probably a GTX 960 or even a 950 equivalent, even considering the 970's 3.5GB vram.
NVIDIA's not going to make great $300~400 cards that last a long time.

>>101121929
What retard picked blue and slightly darker blue for that graph?

>>101122140
The lines don't even overlap, nitpicking faggot.
Do you think AIBs are the one's with over 60% gross margin? Think for a second.

PNY XLR8 or MSI Gaming trio for a 4070ti super?

>>101122161
Then why even label it at all?
It would have taken 2 seconds to make a not-retarded choice.

>>101122164
They're both pretty similar dimension-wise, with slimmed-down triple fan coolers.
You'll be fine just getting the cheaper of the two, Gaming X Slim might have a slightly higher maximum power limit for better OCing, but only by like 20W.

>>101122171
Get color-blind glasses if you can't immediately make sense of that graph.

>>101122164
PNY for the superior RMA, MSI is ASUS Jr.

>>101122451
>asus jr
really? ive never had problems with any of their products aside from the case I bought a month ago. and my only issue with it is that it doesnt support vertical GPU brackets

>>101122564
He has no idea what he’s talking about.
MSI is one of the more conservative AIB wrt GPU power limits.
Even the Suprim liquid cooled 4090 has a lower OC limit than the 600W FE.
MSI prioritizes reducing the possibility of RMAs.

>>101122451
Are all the EVGA refugees moving to PNY? Kingpin moved over to them too.

>>101122564
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6BXwCJtaZE
Let's not forget getting caught scalping their own cards.

>>101122723
>3 years ago
so they havent gotten better? I dont remember this at all and I watch GN alot

>>101118385
Can a Peerless Assassin be installed on an LGA1151 socket? Asking for a friend since I am not familiar with how Intel does their mounting and I've been getting mixed results online.

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>>101122874
https://www.thermalright.com/product/peerless-assassin-120/

>>101122874
Yes since they provide an lga1200 mounting kit which is the same as lga115x

>>101122164
PNY XLR8 for sure, their cooling for the 4070Ti Super and 4080 Super is top notch
I really wonder why they didn't unlock the power limit on their OC models, with unlocked vBIOS they're literally on the same tier of performance as Strix and Suprim X cards

im going for a cpu upgrade as i still have a 6600k in a z170 pro
i can go for 2 deals right now
Help me decide:
I9 9900k + asus z270 + 16gb ddr4 (already have 16 myself) for €120
or
Ryzen 7 7600+ am5 mobo + 32gb ddr5 for €270

im temped to go for am5 so that i don't have to switch mobo next cpu upgrade, but im unsure if a current made mobo will support last gen of am5
use is gaming

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Will this work for a 4090 with 3x8pin? I know there are 3 8 pin ports in there but wont I need one of them for something else? idk I've never dealt with the PSU

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>can't activate windows11 with a windows 8.1 key anymore

>>101121026
Imagine giving a shit about RGB in the year of our lord 2024.

>>101123365
They probably have some tool in /fwt/ that can do it

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>>101118385
Is this a good machine for game development?
> Either Unreal Engine or Unity
Asking for a friend, literally.

>Ryzen 9 7900X
>X670E motherboard
>RX 7900GRE
>64GB DDR5 @5200MHz
>1000W Gold PSU

He already bought these components, btw.

>>101123290
The latter is far better

jews want you to upgrade your pc

save your money and spend it on better shit in life

gayming is stupid and gay

stop consooming garbage from eceleb yubtubers who are just shills for companies and want your clicks and views

>inb4 reddit spacing
i don't give a shit

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>>101123487
forgot picrel

>>101123496
the jews hate me actually because i make my systems last 10 years. My 7900 GRE will be raping titles in 2030.

>>101123496
>jews want you to upgrade your pc
>runs windows 11

>>101122451
>PNY for the superior RMA
They all want to minimize RMA fulfillment, PNY's done one of the more egregious service denials.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFPafGBmJNQ

>>101123354
That unit doesn't have enough 6+2 pin ports for the 4090 (two available out of three), notice one of those three ports is supposed to power the CPU.

>>101118734
Have HW accel enabled and no flickering

>>101119253
>>>/vt/ranny
>>101120052
Lower end Blackwell will be shit, yes.

>>101120052
Everything but the RTX 5090 is looking to be underwhelming.
There's going to be just enough performance gains for the rest of the cards to have some copers saying "This is the RTX 40 series cards we should've gotten".

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>>101123651
yeah it will be one short, Ill get this one instead

>>101123596
I feel like that video is a bit unfair, every manufacturer (except maybe EVGA) would deny warranty for a card that was obviously physically damaged with a burnt trace

>>101123971
But the RMA denial sticker wasn't placed near the burnt PCIe traces.

>>101123991
This is retarded of course but I guess that's their cue for "you dropped/damaged your card on your own, go fuck yourself"

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>>101123354
assuming I found the correct PSU by reverse searching,I think it will most likely work as long as it can provide 450/600w to the 4090.
your PCI-E 8-pin cables are daisy chained right? by that I mean pic related. if that's the case, your PSU most certainly has 300W EPS per connector and you can power the 4090 easily with 4x8-pin.
>t. powering a 4080S in a similar way

>>101123971
It's one of those things where they placed stickers over scratches, it's clear where the priorities lie.
If it wasn't rejected for messed up PCIe fingers, they would have tried to reject the card based on cosmetics, for why would you bother anyway?

I have zero clue as to why RMA departments would focus so much on cosmetics if it wasn't to figure out ways to reject an RMA. Only way I don't see that to be the case is if techs are just that fucking dumb and have zero idea what they are handling and a scratch on a backplate might as well be one on a PCB because they don't know better. I do know tens of people who have zero clue about PC hardware or just what any of the hardware they touch does but are trained to do hardware swaps in a DC.

It's best to stress test the fuck out of your new components within the product return period, without using XOC BIOS, to see if it causes any problems or croaks.
Let the retailer deal with hardware that couldn't protect itself as it's meant to under heavy loads.
GPU manufacturers already run basic tests like Furmark and Unigine (simultaneously) on a sample of production cards for validation.
OCCT 3D switch (transient) test is even more stressful, but it can probably kill RTX 3080 and 3090s.
https://youtu.be/aRr7CaRNbpk?t=751

>DeepCool inventory currently stocked in US warehouses will likely be destroyed
Absolute waste, should've let people pay packing & shipping for it with no returns/refunds or warranty support.

>>101124153
>Let the retailer deal with hardware
I just buy everything on Amazon now, at least in my country they just take stuff back as long as it's within warranty and you don't have to deal with manufacturers.

Is there any real difference between gold rated and platinum rated psu for gaming?

>>101124297
No, but some of the 80+ Platinum units made/designed by reliable brands are discounted near 80+ Gold PSUs from time to time.
Those are worth buying.

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>upgrade to larger monitor
>have to keep box and packing materials for 2 years in case it fails under warranty and I have to mail it back
why isn't anyone working on fixing this

>>101124322
Good on you for CYA.

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how bad of an idea would it be to flash my PNY 4080 Super with an unlocked power vBIOS actually?
like realistically how much performance could I get from doing that and is there a way to know if my card could benefit from it

when I overclock I get 100% power limited, and my card seems to crash if running at 3000mhz even in low loads (maxes out at ~2900 and averages in the low 2800s in 3Dmark)
so realistically is there much point overclocking for maybe 100mhz? would power limit let it go higher? probably not I guess but I'm curious
I have no idea what's considered a good OC on 4080S anyways

also tried my hand at undervolting and it's fine-ish, I can get 2580mhz with 1600mhz memory at 900mv
essentially stock 4080S performance but with 240w power draw, stable under OCCT variable

this was my blogpost, thank you.

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Why people here so obsessed with OLED monitors?
In past days monitor tend to cost around 10-15% of high tier (not best , like 4080 tier PC nowadays) system unit price. If we comparing modern high tier PC (something 7800+4080) OLED monitor will cost like 50% of it. This is ridiculously expensive dirvs thing that burn out in 2 years.

I have LG nano86 120 OLED tv and galaxy s24 Ultra so I know quality of good OLED monitors. Not impressed.

>>101124338
the box is huge (34" ultrawide curved monitor) and I don't really have anywhere to put it so I just move it around my room throughout the day.

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>>101124368
I wouldn't use unlocked XOC vBIOS, you need to hardware mod the card (EVC2) to feed it over 1.1V anyway.
The power consumption's going to get out of control if you use the volt mod.
It's for people who want to chase world record scores for the video card with exotic cooling.

You're not getting tangible daily benefits from the card drawing over 320W in gaming either, it's all just for bragging rights.
This guy analyzed the 4090 but the takeaway's going to be the same for the 4080S.
https://youtu.be/MiV2cnfm_Qs?t=1813

Get the 4080 Super Strix OC vBIOS instead, if you want to test the reasonable limits of your card and given it's compatible with your card.

>>101124444
Because IPS monitors' visual quality pretty much stagnated, and VA panels have too many downsides for gaming (slow response times & worst VRR flickering).
miniLEDs could be a lot better as well.

>>101124460
>wouldn't use unlocked XOC
yeah, this would be terrible idea and I don't even think one exists for the 4080 Super
I kinda assumed this would be pointless outside of benchmarks anyways

>Get the 4080 Super Strix OC vBIOS
I'll test that out, just need to make sure I'm understanding the bricked bios fix procedure in case shit happens

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>>101124368
950 to 1000mV is the frequency & voltage sweet spots for my 4080 Super (FE).
Mine's thermally limited in terms of daily OC settings (default fan curve), low 2800MHz core frequency boost is the most realistic without raising operating noise.

>>101124663
I'd visit established forums like overclock.net and confirm whether someone successfully flashed a higher power limit vBIOS on their PNY card.

>>101118385
>mfw bought a 7800x3d
What am I in for /pcbg/?

>>101124663
Don't flash ASUS vBIOS on a non-ASUS card, they have a proprietary fan controller which won't work on your PNY card.
There appears to be a Galax 4080 Super vBIOS that is compatible with PNY cards (420W limit), but it significantly raises operating temperatures.
Maybe ask Kingpin to send you the PNY XOC BIOS.

I don't think the drawbacks are worth the better benchmark scores, keep using your undervolted 4080S as a daily setting.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KgQRdH

Yes? No? When is the right time to buy? Would you change anything?

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>>101124883
The video card is super overkill for 1080p gaming.
Check if one of the better-performing motherboards in the pic is cheaper than the one you've picked.
https://youtu.be/naX-DnKekCM?t=1369

>>101124861
>Maybe ask Kingpin to send you the PNY XOC BIOS
kek'd can't wait for PNY cards to go up 20% in price because of the guy
>I don't think the drawbacks are worth the better benchmark scores
for sure, it would simply be to satisfy my curiosity at this point
thanks for all the info, I'll post results in the thread if I end up doing it

>>101124687
>77°
damn the FE runs hot as fuck
in OCCT with my max overclock I usually hover around 68°, never tried speed way but even after 20 runs of steel nomad I'm still around 65°
>950 to 1000mV is the frequency & voltage sweet spots
interesting, I've seen a bunch of people say the same thing about their 4080s
I just undervolted to the lowest possible but I'll try fucking around with higher voltages.
>low 2800MHz core frequency boost is the most realistic without raising operating noise
low 2800 seems like the realistic stable and sustainable OC for most 4080S from what I'm gathering.
any higher would require a lot more power draw and great thermals to function, 3000+ is probably silicon lottery locked

>>101118438
well, you could stop being a poor faggot.

I'm doing an ITX APU only build, probably a 5600G. It's not for gaming.
Shoot me some nice cases you might have seen, if you would. I'm trying to find something without unsightly vents on the side and shit, perhaps a nice mesh is OK.

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>>101125169
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hRcG3C/fractal-design-meshify-2-nano-mini-itx-tower-case-fd-c-mes2n-01
the more you buy, the more you save.

>>101125199
That's almost nice, I guess I should have mentioned I dislike glass panels. Thanks just the same.

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>>101125211
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/X8hmP6/silverstone-sugo-15-mini-itx-desktop-case-sst-sg15b
jokes aside, I have a sugo 14. highly recommended.

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>>101125169
>>101125199
Well that did lead me to this, which is kinda sexy. Can't buy it yet where I'm at though.

>>101125029
This 380W Galax vBIOS would be the one I'd try if I had a PNY 4080 Super (XLR8).
It's got the same display connector setup well (3x dP, 1x HDMI)
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/265292/265292

Make sure you've read plenty of guides before you do it.
Full unverified list.
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/?architecture=Uploads&manufacturer=&model=RTX+4080+Super&version=&interface=&memType=&memSize=&since=

>>101123365
>not having like 50000 windows licenses tied to your xbawks account

ngmi

>>101118385
>AVOID: 4000D airflow
explain like I'm a retard why to avoid
better alternatives for same money available?

>>101125242
Interesting. What case is this?

>>101125470
fractal mood

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>have gimmick case (dual setup, because fuck you it's cool).
>Case's whole gimmick defeated by the fact graphics cards are triple spot Xboxhueg monstrosities now

I don't know it I fully trust the official power splitter, but the SFX power supply is a tad limiting, space wise. The mini-ITX setup (Ryzen 3 3200g, 16gb RAM, currently just an old 120gb SSD for the OS and I've got a used GTX 1070ti I might undervolt/underclock with it just for more display ports) is supposed to be a relatively low power always on home server/htpc once I get more storage for it. The bottom setup (Ryzen 9 5900x, RTX 2060 Super, 32gb RAM) is for gaymin, and IDK if an 850w power supply is enough juice for both systems at once.

>>101125604
get a single slot Quadro or something if you wanna do video transcode or stuff that doesn't use the APU maybe?

Is Ryzen 7 2700x too slow now?

>>101125623
I meant for the bottom system. That 2060 has maybe 3/4 of an inch of room between it and the smol PSU (which powers the top system. The main PSU is behind the mITX board). A 4070 super is at least an inch wider not counting cooler.

but that actually isn't a bad idea for the top one. My 1070ti fits, but it's kinda boxy.

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>>101118385
that little doll will murder you in your sleep.

just ordered all the parts, they should come this week
im going from
>1080p 60hz
>i5 4430, GTX 970
to
>1440p 144hz
>Ryzen 5 7600, Radeon RX 7800 XT

what am i in for? i've been using my old computer for almost 10 years

>>101125681
Time to bios upgrade and order the AliExpress $120 ryzen 5700X3D and have your build age like the finest of wines

>https://www.extremetech.com/computing/hong-kong-authorities-intercept-smuggler-with-596-cpus-hidden-in-a-mercedes
Why did he do it?

>>101125959
pls dont order a cpu from fucking aliexpress unless you want compromised microcodes anon

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It's been a little over three months since I switched from a 3070 to a 7800xt. I sold the 3070, made back $350. For $200 I've gotten:
>30-40% better performance in games
>A better driver UI
>AV1 encoding using relive (which shadowplay doesn't have)
>Better HDR support, I keep HDR on at all times now
and I've had (almost) zero issues besides some weird screen flickering when on my desktop, which was caused by amd freesync. In fact I've actually had less driver issues because relive doesn't shit itself and constantly corrupt videos like shadowplay does, and on windows 10 ltsc nvidia has some hardware acceleration issues with steam, which kept crashing the overlay. All of that, gone.

Go ahead and explain to me why I should hate this card. (nvidia shill need not reply)

>>101126109
theres no reason to hate it anon. your blog post is gae tho

>>101126108
>t. Anon who wants to keep the good stuff to himself

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amdsisters, those zen5c core-to-core latencies?
from this chink early review
https://blog.hjc.im/zen5-preliminary-review.html

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Hey, nerds, will I receive fps boost if I switch to 3070ti from this?

>>101126503
Post your current cpu, intcel shill.

>>101126503
Don't care still buying amd

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>>101126533
kys retard
call amd out on their shit when it comes up

Can the 5600g run 3x1440p well? (not for gaming)
I want a light build for casual use that doesn't burn 70W idling.

Is it worth getting the 4070 ti super over the 4070 super? The extra VRAM sounds like it should benefit it in the long run.

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>>101126569
I was going to tell you to just check AMD's product page for the 5600G but it turns out their page is so shit compared to Intel Ark
Intel tells you exactly what the maximum resolution and refresh rates is supported by their iGPUs per interface (HDMI, DP, etc.) along with the usual cores and clock speeds
All AMD tells you is these 3 specs in the screenshot

>>101126615
Oh I'm sure it supports it, but how well? I can run the three displays off my 10th gen laptop, it gets real hot and movement on the screen jitters. Let's not even talk about playing back a simple video lmao.

>>101126503
For me it's Core ID 0

>>101126569
AMD is pretty coy with this info. Possibly because it depends on your mobo. I think most of them cap out at 4k60 which is ~25% less than 3x1440p. Of course they might be rounding down to the nearest standard res but it's not something I'd risk. Better to throw in a cheap dedicated card so it's not thrashing.

>>101126533
are you retarded? hitting infinity fabric always had higher latency than running across intel tiles

>AMD is better for gaming and Intel is better for productivity now
Wtf happened?
I was gone for a year and everything just flipped

>>101126937
I hate to say it but e-cores are the future
Amd's new laptop chips have pseudo e-cores so their future desktop chips could adopt the same strat and become a carbon copy of Intel's

>>101126952
You have no idea what you are talking about anon.

>>101120245
If your graphics card cannot do native rasterization at decent fps it is trash regardless of RT and no amount of coping is going to change that

>>101126969
It's ok you'll realize it too after the shock passes

>>101126937
> I was gone for a year and everything just flipped
It's not just that. Intel fags are now on full bulldozer times cope

>>101127459
Intel's approach is to tackle the scaling problem they have to compete with the zen core which scales (both outwards so overall core count) and down (power wise - albeit with the i/o die floor) because slapping moar P cores on not only would blow any sensible power limit it would also mean massive dies and yields would be even worse than they are now. Zen is flatout more efficient - look at the sort of power per core threadripper and epyc chips can pull. Zen c also supports all the instructions the regular cores do as well unlike on intel.

The cloud optimised zen cores are tuned for very niche use cases (hence cloud) where density trumps all other considerations.

protip: the efficiency intel refers to doesn't refer to power, but die area.

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>budget
$1000-$1500 excluding monitor
open for monitor suggestions too
>country
australia
>use-cases
he browses web, watches netflix, thinking of getting him a comfy 2k/4k @ 27/32" screen
any good pre-built sites? looking for a computer for my dad, don't feel like organising shipping/couriers through my week

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>>101124062
I plan on plugging only 3 and having it at 70% anyway, yeah its a cougar gex 750w, but I worried I shouldn't connect two plugs from the GPU into the same 8 pin port in the PSU, like, I thought that the bottom connection there would be hazardous or something, but since the PSU comes with those split cables I can just connect like that and it will use up 2 slots, leaving one for the CPU?

>>101123439
>no threadripper

>>101127720
yeah it will most likely work, each PCI-E connector should be providing 150w with almost every modern PSU so two different 2x8-pin cables would be enough I guess
750w is a bit low though for a 4090, i'd go for 850w or 1000w just to be safe, and if you're buying a new PSU I'd still pick an atx3.0 with a straight up 12vhpwr cable rather than deal with the shitty adapter

>>101127685
$1K excluding monitor is a bit expensive for that use cade. He doesn't game at all, right?

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How's my build looking?

R5 7500F
RTX 3060 TI
ASRock B650M-HDV
ADATA XPG LANCER DDR5 16GB (2x8GB) 5200Mhz
WD SN770 1 Tb
Fractal Design Ion+ 750w
Cheap Mini Tower case

what should be change? is the ram okay?

>>101127966
no games at all, netflix at 4k (if a good cheap 4k monitor) would be the most strenuous thing

>>101118438
Inflation, I hope your wage followed or you are fucked. No turning back btw.

>>101128005
The build is odd - I'm assuming you're limited by what you can get in Russia. It'll work, and there's nothing seriously wrong with it, but it's not what I'd build with a full selection of parts.

> is the ram okay?
8GB DDR5 sticks aren't any faster than DDR4 because they only use 4 modules per stick. Course you don't have a choice on AM5 so whatever; stretch to 32GB if you can but it's fine if not - you won't be teasing out the performance difference with a 3060Ti.

>>101125162
>>101118876
what do you gain from typing these retarded posts, being able to buy something doesn't mean it's good value

>>101127463
>Intel fags are now on full bulldozer times cope
But Intel completely dominates at the low end with good value and more importantly performant, power EFFICIENT parts.
>>101127416
Current RT cards need to be good at raster before they can be good at RT in gaymes. Most of the RT gains in gaming is due to better raster on Ada. Performance in pure RT rendering however like in 3D is as expected though.

>>101128352
Not to side with the other guy but Bulldozer, or Vishera at least, was pretty decent at the low end. The 6300 at $120 was strong value vs. the dual core i3s of the time.

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What wireless mouse would you recommend?

For AM5 CPUs, would 3 horizontal lines be a good way to apply paste? Thermal paste isn't really conductive anymore, so is it completely fine if I put too much? Besides the mess being annoying if I ever switch CPUs, of course

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Talk me out of spending an extra 180 bucks for an 7800 XT over the 7600 XT.
I still only target 1080p 60 fps, but a few select games already seem to be struggling a bit on the 7600 XT, which doesn't bode well for the next 3-4 years.

>>101128477
Yeah sure. Bottom line is you need to a) use enough and b) cover the CCDs. Horizontal lines would do that as would a cross, quincunx, or a full spread.

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>>101128477
Application method is irrelevant - what matters is that the dies are covered.

I hate those fucking gaps on AM5 chips so much. Looks so stupid.

>>101129041
Then buy/print one of those contact frames to cover them up.

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>>101128495
The RX 6800 is a compromise priced at $360.

>>101128449
None of them

>>101128495
imagine still using 1080p60

>>101127720
3 cables from the psu is plenty

>>101129244
The RX 7800 XT is straight up cheaper in my country since almost nobody sells the RX 6800 anymore.

Probably just gonna bite the bullet and get the RX 7800 XT, maybe it will convince me to get a new monitor one of these days. Mostly just a bit worried about my ancient 650w PSU.

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>>101127720
I'm not sure if a Couger PSU applies to this, but a well-built PSU & 8-pin PCIe cable can safely supply over 300W of power.
A high-quality 16AWG 8 (6+2) pin PCIe cable can deliver 10A of current. This is why Seasonic, Super Flower, Corsair, and be Quiet's official 8-pin to 12VHPWR cables (600W) use only two 8-pin power headers.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240105121219/http://jongerow.com/PCIe/index.html

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>>101128449
budget? grip? shape preference? click switches preferences?

Razer Viper V3 Pro is the best mouse right now overall since they fixed sensor issues, but the price is retarded.
there are tons of chinesium mices that are fine but you have to dig around a lot and they often have issues that may or may not happen to you and may or may not have a fix.

I personnally really like the AJAZZ A159Apex but the dongle has interference issues in certain households that make the sensor skip frames, if you can buy it from somewhere that has a good return policy it's worth a try. 3950 sensor, motion sync, charging dock with a screen, good shape for claw (Sora v2 clone)
also cutest box award

>>101128449
pulsar xlite medium currently on sale on amazon i think

>>101128495
I won't talk you out of it because the 7600 XT just plain sucks, buy anything else. 6750 XT goes for the same price.

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Day 445 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

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>>101129482
6750 XT is also pretty overpriced here, same price as a 7700 XT. Which admittedly might be a decent middle point.

But if I'm gonna splurge for more longevity over a cheap and shitty 7600 XT, I kind of feel I might as well spend the extra $85 and go straight for the 7800 XT. Even if I won't really need it anytime soon.

17 14700K + RTX 3060

I have a 600W power supply
should I bother getting something bigger?

what's a good CPU and motherboard combo to passively mine Monero XMR on expensive internet?
just to clarify I know this wont be profitable I'm just looking to help out a little while my PC is running.

>>101129899
Not really, there's not much performance to be gained from exceeding Intel's recommended 253W power limit for that CPU.
I doubt your PC's going to fully load the 14700K and 3060 simultaneously unless you're torture-testing it.
Set the CPU power & current limit according to Intel's recommendations below (PL1=PL2=253W).
https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/m-p/1607807#M73544

Thermal Velocity Boost is only supported on i9 processors, it won't matter whether you enable or disable it on your BIOS.
I have it disabled for my i7.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/236783/intel-core-i7-processor-14700k-33m-cache-up-to-5-60-ghz/specifications.html

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How does /g/ clean their keyboards in all the hard to reach areas?

>>101130013
about 50psi

>>101130013
You address the source of the problem.
I wash my hands thoroughly & often as well as avoid eating food on my desk.

>>101130013
I start with turning it upside down and shaking it, then hit it with compressed air, then a generic brush, then if anything is still left, a slightly moist q-tip.

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I like Gigabyte's toned-down, 0 RGB fan shroud design for their Windforce cards.
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N407TSWF3MAX-OC-16GD#kf

Why aren't ram timings important with X3D CPUs? Should I still aim to get ram sticks with very low timings?

>>101130398
Because having a big L3 cache addresses a lot of what makes Zen scale well with RAM. If getting DDR5 just go for 6000/CL30 and copy Buildzoid's subtimings.

>>101129972
thanks for the info

I dont know whether to go with 7800x or 4070ti super.I dont care about RT but DLSS would be nice.Price difference is 340 euros.

>>101130398
AM4 X3D chips still have a noticable performance gain from high frequency RAM with low timings, though it's mostly because of Infinity Fabric overclock

>>101130484
Why not just get a 4070 Super non-Ti?
It shouldn't be far in price from the 7800 XT and still give you DLSS and all Nvidia features.
If it's about VRAM it really doesn't matter unless you run Path Tracing on 4k.

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>>101130484
Radeon is expected to release the improved FSR 3.1 upscaler later this year, but not many game devs will push post-release patches just to support this new upscaler.
https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/amd-fsr-3-1-announced-at-gdc-2024-fsr-3-available-and-upcoming/ba-p/674027
You're paying 340 euro extra for about 25% raw performance improvement + DLSS.

>>101129628
I got brand new 6800 for 300euro, great card.

>>101128449
>eloshapes.com
Depends on what you do with it and what shape and weight you prefer, this is a pretty good index for all mouses, you can even make outline comparison for shape.

>>101130484
Why are you contrasting 2 cards that are so distant in price range? Either look at 7900 XT vs 4070 ti Super or 7900 GRE vs 4070 Super.

>>101130026
>about 50psi
Damn, where can I get that?

>>101130033
You can also mitigate gunk building up on your keyboard by making sure your eyebrows/lashes aren't falling out too often along with dandruff and lint from your hair.

>>101130878
Because he's worried about the vram boogieman.
Game developers are totally going to screw over GeForce PC gamers (+80% dGPU market share).

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I'm reading the PSU guide in the OP and this dude is listing the Super Flower Leadex VII XP 1000W as top 3 on a few categories, but then when you open his separate review, he's saying it's overpriced and not good at all. Do you guys have a non autistic PSU guide? 90% of the other shit he recommends simply aren't sold in my cunt.

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Im about to go to microcenter and buy an open box XG27AQDMG for $620
Im not sure on this model yet, I might go with the Alienware 27" qdoled 360hz, but I keep procrastinating on pulling the trigger
Going to go buy that ASUS and atleast try it out for a few weeks and maybe return it unless I really love it and don't have fomo of a qdoled
Thoughts on this monitor?

>>101131215
>troon-led
never ever. they force to wait 10 minutes every 10 hours to do a pixel refresh

>>101131215
>open box AND asus
madman

>>101131237
Fuck off faggot
>>101131284
I'll return it anon I just gotta decide if I want to spend 900 on the Alienware or not

>>101131183
80+ Platinum rated units are usually in a strange spot because of the availability of some discounted Titanium PSUs like the FSP Hydro TI.
Even the Titanium rated be Quiet Dark Power 13 1000W unit is selling under $250 during promotional discounts.

>and not good at all
Aris sets very high review standards & he's pointing out the weaknesses of the unit.
It's why other outlets like GN don't even bother reviewing PSUs because they can't do a better job than HWBusters & Cybenetics (industry-recognized rating, managed & reviewed by the same editor).
Even the best-in-class Seasonic Prime TX received criticism.

https://hwbusters.com/psus/seasonic-prime-tx-1600-atx-v3-0-psu-review/11/
https://hwbusters.com/psus/be-quiet-dark-power-pro-13-1600w-psu-review/11/
https://hwbusters.com/psus/be-quiet-dark-power-13-1000w-psu-review/11/
https://hwbusters.com/psus/fsp-hydro-ti-pro-1000w-psu-review/11/

All these units are overbuilt to compensate for their weaknesses at rated max wattage & current delivery.

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I want to fuck around with local models like llama and shit, also maybe run local image gen. I'm gonna be playing some moderately new titles like Elden Ring too so I want some graphical power. Should I go 7900 GRE for the 16 gb vram or 4070 super and kneel to leather jacket man? Or am I retarded and buying overkill and I should just get a 4060 16GB?

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>>101131183
>Do you guys have a non autistic PSU guide? 90% of the other shit he recommends
Even Super Flower Leadex VII Gold units are good enough to pass a highly reputable system integrator's component sourcing.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/workstations/threadripper/wrx90-e/
https://www.pugetsystems.com/our-customers/

Are you running projects requiring a higher system reliability than NASA JSC or Johns Hopkins University?
Quit being a fucking retard.

>>101131504
4060 ti 16gb is all you need. llama only works on amd if you use linux

Worth paying $25 more for the 990 pro than sn580? 1TB version, $65 vs $90, solely for gaming

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>>101131504
amd gpu is trash for ai. not only are they not compatible on windows, they are also slow as shit

>>101131504
if you stick to what's popular amd is fine, but if you want to fiddle with the stuff go nvidia

>>101131541
>4060 ti 16gb
Jesus christ why do you hate that man? Either recommend a 3060 or a used 3090.

>>101131624
>>101131624
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>>101131504
Don't get AMD for ai, you just get AMD GPUs if you care for raw performance and price/perf and have no need for the special features that Nvidia GPUs have

>>101131504
>moderately new titles like Elden Ring
It looks and plays like a PS4 title, 0 next-gen upgrades.
Not saying the game's bad, but it looks painfully outdated no matter how much "muh art direction" tries to paper over it.

>>101123439
probably good enough for a noob script kiddie. i mean you could well enough develop stuff on a 4th gen i5 cpu and some gtx 1000 series card

though for massive code bases and if you're seriously trying to make money with the thing you're working on you should really buy the best and that's either xeon or threadripper for a platform enabling more memory options and either rtx 4090 or some cuda core blaster gpu from the enterprise series with shit load of vram

heavily depends on the projects he's working on and on what level. most likely that is more than enough for a casual indie dude working on some random games.
(i'm game developer hobbyist myself)

>>101131539
>Are you running projects requiring a higher system reliability than NASA JSC or Johns Hopkins University?
yes, my dedicated hentai playback machine is more important than all those put together.

>>101131215
just got back home and hooked this thing up. updating firmware but damn it already looks nice even in a fairly lit room. can't wait to see this fucker at night.
what are some good vidya to test on oled?
>>101131779
art direction mogs graphical fidelity though. ghost of tsushima is a ps4 game and is one of the best looking games